A Symptom of Human Violence • The City Ep. 3

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@journeyfrombitterness 3 ай бұрын

Dearest Tim and Jon, I just LOOOOOVE listening to you guys!!! Your simple yet deep ways of breaking down the stories of the Bible into digestible pictures and patterns is SOOO satisfying to hear! I too am a Hebrew student who loves to dig into the Strong's Concordance and finding the root meanings of the words I read in the original language. So, all the Hebrew is a delight. Your care and attention to detail is WONDERFUL. And your presentation is so gentle and POWERFUL!! I thank and praise our heavenly Abba for you often, and trust you to teach my six children wonderous things from His word. THANK YOU for being so unconventional, so un-politically correct, and so focused on the goal: JESUS CHRIST! P.S. Would you PLEASE consider listening to the songs I believe the Holy Spirit inspired me to write for these days of violence and bitterness? I want to help people have FEARLESS FAITH to love sacrificially instead of demanding selfish rights and seeking to save our lives from suffering. Please, click the dove icon, and God bless you and all who are willing to take up their cross... AND God bless all our murderous ENEMIES with loving conviction and revelation of Jesus' love that leads to repentance for their best ultimate GOOD!

@ebenezerghansah5720 Жыл бұрын

WOWWWWW, this was one of the most profound talks I had ever listened to, soo many different perspectives, made lots and lots of things clearer.

@Mrkilledhorse Жыл бұрын

Well i have some great news for you, my good friend. There is plenty of even more interresting conversations to be held, many great and wonderous have been already! Maybe you could have yourself some edifying conversations! I hope for you to never stop searching to hear, see, and speak so of the wonders you came to. May you be with The Lord, The King of the univers, always. May He be your good Shepard.

@olgas9970 Жыл бұрын

I love this theme study! Seeing how building walls of protection is symptomatic of “doing what is good in man’s own eyes” enabled me to reflect on what walls I’ve built around myself to ensure my own emotional preservation from others rather than trusting in God’s seal of the holy spirit

@cindirose3390 Жыл бұрын

Heavy. But helpful

@Gnight787 Жыл бұрын

Just finished "violence of the biblical God" and those series has been a great companion to it. Love the show, God bless!

@swaggyp1219 Жыл бұрын

This podcast episode was truly refreshment to my soul and nourishment to my bones. 🙌

@BeardnScars Жыл бұрын

Love this series. Love you guys! You’re the ones who kicked off my journey about 10 years ago!

@journeyfrombitterness 3 ай бұрын

@imtholly9358 Жыл бұрын

The complexities & the messy in church & family also requires wisdom and is worth it

@mikecurtiss8858 Жыл бұрын

Thank you for putting the podcasts on you tube as well. It makes it easier for me to listen and follow along in a couple of bible apps. I really love what you're doing. Thank you thank you thank you.

@anal.mendoza Жыл бұрын

Hi Tim and John, thanks for sharing this video! I really loved it!

@lukasbryant9881 Жыл бұрын

Beautiful Eulogy! I like that you guys use some of their music. 😄 And I love the content of the city. It helps me understand the depth of trust we are to have with God.

@tumase3732 Жыл бұрын

Thank you for this series. God bless you all.

@kamarahjbayard9476 Жыл бұрын

I absolutely loved this discussion. This is the only one of the “city“ that won’t play in the app.

@rmfyiffa Жыл бұрын

Vocation in a religious context is how God calls you to serve Him in the world. God calls you through Baptism and Confirmation to serve Him in a specific way of life. You can follow God's call as a single person, married person, ordained priest, or a vowed religious. 1 Corinthians 7:7-9, singleness is a gift…

@AndyZach Жыл бұрын

I'm one of those who think 'sons of Elohim' refers to humans. Here's why. The verses are: Genesis 6: Now it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born to them, 2 that the sons of God saw the daughters of men, that they were beautiful; and they took wives for themselves of all whom they chose. 3 And the Lord said, “My Spirit shall not strive[a] with man forever, for he is indeed flesh; yet his days shall be one hundred and twenty years.” 4 There were [b]giants on the earth in those days, and also afterward, when the sons of God came in to the daughters of men and they bore children to them. Those were the mighty men who were of old, men of renown. 5 Then [c]the Lord saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every intent[d] of the thoughts of his heart was only evil [e]continually. 6 And the Lord was sorry that He had made man on the earth, and He was grieved in His heart. 7 So the Lord said, “I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth, both man and beast, creeping thing and birds of the air, for I am sorry that I have made them.” Verse 1: talks about men and daughters born to them. 2: talks about these daughters marrying these 'sons' of God' 3. God talks about man's sin and shortening his life to 120 years. Punishment on mankind. 4. There were giants who were men who were children of the sons of God and the daughters of men. 5. God sees man's wickedness. 6. God grieves over man on the earth. 7. God says I will destroy man. Every verse talks about men and mankind. God punishes man for his sin. There is no mention of angels or of punishment of angels. Since God is just, he does not punish men for the sins of angels. Therefore, 'sons of Elohim' are men. This is in addition to Jesus saying angels in heaven do not marry, nor is there any revelation that angels can reproduce with each other or with men.

@maarifawalcott5145 Жыл бұрын

Great discussion as always. Also, the music playing between each session is really good. Dope.

@bigpeopletalk4880 Жыл бұрын

This is a truly fascinating series! ... but ... a bit of constructive feedback: I really appreciate the input of both hosts, but it would be good if Jon would allow Tim to finish his thoughts so that listeners can benefit from the totality of Tim's insight ... I appreciate Jon's perspectives and excellent questions, but it's frustrating for me when I'm looking forward to hearing Tim expound only to hear Jon cutting in on him or finishing his sentences for him ... but ... all in all I am really enjoying this series and am looking forward to continue working through all of the videos ... and then some ... many thanks to the whole team for a job really, really well done!

@audofit Жыл бұрын

Always like seeing these pop up in the middle of the night - can't go to sleep yet!

@TheCreepypro 9 ай бұрын

thank You Lord for Your patience with us! help us to be loyal to You!

@alm5851 Жыл бұрын

I love these! Thank you so much for sharing!

@jakeofalltradesmusic Жыл бұрын

49:40 you say God promises to never do a cosmos de-creation thing again... But there's a very important qualifier... He said He won't do it "with water." In Revelation, He destroys the cosmos with fire.

@xX0IRIDIUM0Xx Жыл бұрын

He stops holding it together. It all burns in a fissile and or fusion reaction.

@AndyZach Жыл бұрын

Not quite. He makes a new heavens and a new Earth in Revelation 21. I assume it comes from the old universe of Earth and heaven. So it's a recreation, not destruction. But 2 Peter 3 does speak of the heavens and earth being consumed with fire. So for me, the math is Earth+heavens+fire=new heavens and new Earth.

@oktober06 Ай бұрын

amazing discussion ... thank you, Bible Project team. I wonder though ... God does not condone humans killing each other ...so how could He possibly kill them all (or some)? bloodshed causes further bloodshed / violence produces violence (Hosea 4:2) ... God is way beyond this ... His greatest power is agape unconditional love

@timothyramos8350 Жыл бұрын

I would think that Cain learned how to build cities from his father Adam. Also, this with me that the original intention of cities and expansion of the kingdom was initially a good thing and a divine command to take dominion, subduing multiply.

@biglord02 Жыл бұрын

Fascinating topic

@CarrieGibsonRocks Жыл бұрын

Why did you hide the other 10 videos of this playlist? I was about half done with it... 😞 And I was really enjoying it. Are they only available for a short while?

@jeremiahaemile2008 Жыл бұрын

They still in Spotify he hide it from KZbin only not Spotify why I don't

@P.H.888 Жыл бұрын

Proverbs 16v32 ~ we are running against the clock ⏰ Not each other! An individual Walk ~ make it 3 legged ~ with The Lord!

@LetsStudyBible 5 ай бұрын

Love the podcasts

@Edistar264 Жыл бұрын

Nice explanation guys..

@Edistar264 Жыл бұрын

Nice video by the way. Thanks

@johnwashburn3793 Жыл бұрын

I have a question. Weren't the naphsleim destroyed in the flood...yet they continued? How did they survive? Whatever happened with them? (I suppose that is 3 questions)

@TheLakingc Жыл бұрын

Just as a discussion... sort of thinking outloudish... I wonder if the inlaws were part of that genetic carry over; but look at Noah and his son, maybe there is just a corrupt gene, too, from the beginning. Maybe we are missing something from the beginning... the fruit corrupted our genes? It does seem that some people have no choice about who they are from birth. Right from the start, every intent is evil. They seem incapable of comprehending good from God's perspective, only what they perceive is good for making them richer, bigger, and stronger in order to be the top most powerful. They seem lacking in true compassion... only if it makes them look good. It is horrifying. And there are those who are never smart or wealthy, but street rats who have no conscience, either. Not all street rats are rats, but brats who do have redeemable qualities. But, it is curious to me how people, born of those who do love the Lord are from the start are so evil. What happened? There are people born of horrid parentage who become wonderfully kind people and people who serve the Lord. How does that happen? You cannot just blame or extol family. I guess there are all sorts of anomalies when cells inutero are dividing, or a mom ingests something toxic to a fetus. It is just a curious thing. We think we are so great, and our bodies are remarkable, no doubt, but yet, we are so fragile, that a single incident like a single chemical or nothing at all that we can change, can so upset our genetics. Bottom line, only God knows and decides for His reasons. My greatest desire was for my children to follow Christ, and they have no regard for Him at all. They have an entitled attitude. They were so loved and cared for. I can only pray that maybe a descendant will find Him and serve Him. I keep praying and reaching out. They are still breathing. I have an adopted child, a victim of a genetic anomaly, but the sweetest, kindest, and most God-loving person. He is such an incredible joy and education every day. Go figure...🙌 😄

@ilarraza28 Жыл бұрын

Those that continued weren't Nephalim. They were Rephaim and Anakim. Bible doesn't say the Giborim or the Nephalim survived. Even then, the conquest of Cannan was to exterminate that bloodline. That was God commands the killing of every man, woman and child. Cannanite is a catch all phrase like American. It's the people who populate Cannan but in there, the Bible says they were giants.

@ericrobertson9993 Жыл бұрын

I don't believe God tried x method and saw that it didn't work and now will try y method. Like Saul and David, he lets us see our way and the result, then he shows us a better way and the result. He knows the future, and wants to teach us that our instincts and our values, as they currently are, lead to bad outcomes. If we trust God it leads to a better and eventually an ideal outcome. My it be our security, our prosperity, or even having enough food on the Sabbath, we are to trust God.

@Drizzymusiq Жыл бұрын

Hey you. Yeah you I'm taking to. If you're reading this hope all is well and have a great day please in Jesus name and love you. 😊

@Tim_Climie Жыл бұрын

Now, dance on the table. DJO: Huge Fan!

@kathypartee3314 Жыл бұрын

Good info and Interesting. Thank you.

@kellychristman9509 Жыл бұрын

As I am listening to you discuss Lamech and his choice to take the life of another human being and to take two wives for himself, and then connecting it to the sons of God mimicking what Lamech did... well it really makes sense as to why God was sorry he had made human beings. I would think in the story of the sons of God who rebelled and left their boundaries to take human wives that God would have said that He was sorry he made elohim. But he doesn't say that. Instead God says he was sorry for making human beings. So is it fair to say that God was sorry for making human beings because the angels actually followed their sinful ways instead of the other way around?

@kellyholden597 Жыл бұрын

Isn't Malak = angel/ messenger? ( In regards to Lamech being a wordplay on Melek)

@kidsclub Жыл бұрын

😇😇😇

@Edistar264 Жыл бұрын

Guys, I think a cities scaling whether it is good or bad depends on the people inside the walls. Since, group of people gather together.

@ilarraza28 Жыл бұрын

Regardless. People are people. There are none righteous, not one.

@scripticvt8568 Жыл бұрын

I have a question about the Joshua video concerning where some people think God advocated for genocide. If it is hyperbole, then what is the intent?

@P.H.888 Жыл бұрын

Here in the uk , A City has a Cathedral, so it’s not on size or population but wether it has Christian Cathedral St David’s City population of 1,841 (2011).

@onefeather2 Жыл бұрын

The fallen angels taught humans the use of tools and metals and signs and decoration for the body, none of it was toward a good end.

@fernandovasquez375 Жыл бұрын

Tim, John thank you for what you've done by introducing people to the journey of getting intimate with God and scriptures. Big Fan of Bible Project. I have a few questions. 1st: If the sons of Elohim (which interestingly is a plural like Malajim) are the seed of Cain (seed of the serpent) wouldn't that imply that the serpent "knew" Java in some way? 2nd: Noah's birthday was marked by many signs. In the Apocrypha it said that he was born with pink porcelain skin, with white hair and that he pronounced the name of God when he got out of his mother's womb. What would this mean? Would this be related with the scared name of God יתרת (sorry if I misspelled it) and the correct pronunciation?

@EastGateAdoptionist Жыл бұрын

why did 10 of the videos for this series get removed?

@jeremiahaemile2008 Жыл бұрын

They still in Spotify he hide it from KZbin only why I don't

@magnifico0000 Жыл бұрын

Never noticed those details.....

@mackenzieblair6615 Жыл бұрын

Man, these men must not have been very fertile. How do you live to 700+ years old, have 3 wives and only have 4 kids??

@MrShadowy1 Жыл бұрын

Where can I find that Lamech is Cain spelled backwards? Commentary after commentary and search after search on the web revealed nothing like that. I thought it might be the same letters rearranged or in reverse order but no, not that either. Can someone please back this up?

@sammuelofficial8846 4 ай бұрын

I believe they said King not Cain, so the word for King was Malech. Not 100% sure listen again to confirm but that’s what i heard

@zatyrbryn2428 Жыл бұрын

Not sure if you know about the hidden meanings in the genealogies of Noah and also of Cains line. Have a look it’s super cool

@ArvindKumarNatarajan Жыл бұрын

YOOOO!!!I'm favoured, $25k every 3weeks! I can now afford anything and also support God's work and the church. Can you imagine?

@ArvindKumarNatarajan Жыл бұрын

I have been blessed beyond measures. It's nothing I ever saw happening but God did!

@CharlotteMorgan20 Жыл бұрын

Super interesting

@rashjone Жыл бұрын

Quite impressive but HOW!!? I know it's possible, my colleague at work got her first investment return of £55k after few weeks and she quit the job, I would appreciate if you show me how to go about it..

@jeanicecolson378 Жыл бұрын

How y'all earn that much weekly?

@jeanicecolson378 Жыл бұрын

I really wanna know more about this. I'd be in the comments to see how this pans out, hopefully i get what I'm looking for

@supermichaelssecondchannel4342 Жыл бұрын

Have you ever ready any other books besides the Bible?

@spaceghost9969 Жыл бұрын

Is Cains theme song Welcome to the Jungle?

@StJiub Жыл бұрын

Here Ve GO!

@mrblue___ Жыл бұрын

35:44 Anybody know this song???

@JustinDOehlke Жыл бұрын

Jesus told Peter that he should forgive his brother 70 times 7 times, which makes it 490 times. Matt 18:22

@maplebob23 Жыл бұрын

What is “scaling?”

@kevinosullivan2440 Жыл бұрын

Aw,a little violence never hurt anybody.

@PaleRider559 2 ай бұрын

So... does the word "Whole", as it pertains to animal sacrifices, come from the sacrifice from Adam, that Cain was so jealous about? If so, doesn't it just mean "the Best" you can offer to God. And, if so, the fact that people would be turned away from the temple, if their lamb had any blemishes, seem a little unjust? Because, these people may have given the best lamb they had... meaning it was their most valuable lamb... isn't that all that God asked of them? Not sure if I'm explaining this train of thought correctly LOL

@spaceghost9969 Жыл бұрын

Streams are like a really good thing…. Unless you fill it with yucky giant juice!

@spaceghost9969 Жыл бұрын

So if Noah’s dad Lamech was 777 years old then original Lamech must have been 111.

@spaceghost9969 Жыл бұрын

Wait a minute….. isn’t one human year seven dog years? Hmmm

@livingpicture Жыл бұрын

35 min in, you mention Enosh, where the Adam-to-Noah genealogy states was the point when men began to "call on" the name of the Lord. I've heard that this is actually a mistranslation, and should read this is when men began to *profane* the name of the Lord. The suggestion here is that this is the catalyst for the downward spiral that started here led to where it is noted in Genesis 6 that every thought of man was only wicked continually. Perhaps the mention of the sons of Elohim & the daughters of men is a symptom of people profaning the name of the Lord & thereby allowing demonic influence/intrusion into society? Sometime, can you please do a deep dive into whatever is going on in these passages and if they are connected?

@lauraanderson7960 Жыл бұрын

The city although there seems to be some good,it is not because all the things or streams are all good it is that it is man is being his own God. The good guys worshiping God are trying to do Gods will not theirs. City societies are all evil although some things may seem good, but it is not. It is always about the difference between our will over god will..

@jillchristine1561 Жыл бұрын

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@david88464 Жыл бұрын

Gilgamesh will return 😳

@spaceghost9969 Жыл бұрын

Nama must have been Noah’s wife! The stream of Cain makes daughters of men. TubalCain must have dealt with Azazel!

@jonathanriccicavinidolago1910 Жыл бұрын

May somebody help me?????? I'm from Brazil And i need the e-mail from the project For anotar Thing in my country Thank you Brothers 😂

@dr.tinsaienegash2536 Жыл бұрын

Instead of talking about the cities the bible mentions repeatedly you spend time discussing supposed cities which are mentioned at pass

@mrblue___ Жыл бұрын

42:04

@carlaireland1546 Жыл бұрын

You refer to the line of Cain as the line of the snake. You believe that Eve slept with the serpent and uncovered her nakedness, then slept with Adam and uncovered his nakedness, resulting in twins Cain and Abel. One from the serpent and one from Adam.

@spaceghost9969 Жыл бұрын

HOLY FUCKING SHIT!!! You guys have no idea what you just cleared up!!! So another perspective of Ovid. Golden age ruled by Saturn. Then something happened between Zeus and Prometheus during the sacrifice deals. Now we have the Silver age of Cains line where they lived with their mommy till they were 80 or something and were not greatful to God. Then we have TubalCain who starts what, THE BRONZE AGE BEFORE THE FLOOD!!!!! So why are mt Parnassus and Ararat so close? Ararat is much higher by the way. Hmmmm So on the side of Deucalion they made people after the flood out of rocks, the STONE AGE, we can also very easily point out the Neanderthal for them. Filthy line of giants! Nifleheim, Nephilim, come on guys if it’s pre Babylon we can figure this out EASY!

@liltwix3010 Жыл бұрын

I placed my faith elsewhere

@hanlovesleia Жыл бұрын

wooo early :)

@danakayemiller6982 Жыл бұрын

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@annettecrocco8780 Жыл бұрын

It is very sad to heare the view you have of God, it is totally off and heretical.

@nicholasmills2005 Жыл бұрын

How?

@APR4U Жыл бұрын

As I hear you boys talking at the beginning declaring thousands of years of humanity, I realize that you do not believe in the Bible that you’re talking about. You better get some creation science behind those words because this world is only 6000 years old.

@xX0IRIDIUM0Xx Жыл бұрын

Grey haired boys. Thousands of years is not necessarily greater than 6000 years.

@Window4503 Жыл бұрын

thousands of years = only 6000 years, as six thousand is more than one thousand....

@HearGodsWord Жыл бұрын

Ohh Alan, you've quoted them but still misunderstood them. 6,000 years is thousands of years.

@spaceghost9969 Жыл бұрын

Get off your high horse first if you want to ladle gravy. You be careful! I know 6 million sounds a LITTLE high. But don’t let them hear you say that!