A Talk on Hui Muslim Martial Arts: Cha Quan, Tan Tui, Xinyi Liuhe w/ Wang Da Peng

For the final part of this series, we meet with Wang Da Peng to talk about his experiences learning the martial arts of the Hui Muslim people: Cha Quan, Tan Tui and Xinyi Liuhe Quan.
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[@MonkeyStealsPeach]

If you are in Canberra and would like to get in touch with Master Wang, you can do so here: www.taichi-mandarin.com.au

[@Valenciasart]

Hi Sifu do you have any videos about hung gar?

[@yunshen]

Totally amazing. This teacher really shows and bring out the uniqueness and power of the Hui Muslim martial arts, in his body mechanics.

[@tweetalig]

This is really awesome to have a gem like Wang Laoshi living there in Australia and teaching at one of the universities. Great interview! It's amazing how many masters there are who are just living and teaching in society like Wang.

[@wangwu07]

Rare stuff, it’s very good to see that guys who train zhaquan and tantui seriously still exists. Henan branch is really different from the Shandong branches, but the basic idea and character is the same.

[@saquibmohammed2077]

actually there is a school of 500 students of cha quan and tan tui

[@syedumer24]

Where are you guys i am one your subscriber but you are not giving any new videos since 2 years

[@williambreazeal387]

That was the best Tan Tui I've seen. Very sophisticated, very eye opening. If you could get him to provide more insight on Tan Tuis' characteristics and the important points in practicing Tan Tui, that would be of tremendous benefit to western CMA practitioners

[@ambulocetusnatans]

I noticed that too. I find most Tan Tui kind of boring, but I wouldn't mind learning that version.

[@SaintSanic]

What a wonderful practitioner! Thanks for sharing. Shows how good gong fu means a good old age. He even sits in his recliner with gongfu. a true master.

[@chrisradnedge74]

This is a great interview. Thank you everyone.

[@pb8238]

Love to hearing these experienced teachers talk. Makes me so lucky to have found my teacher, old school attitude and only teaches old school ways.

[@tttITA10]

That Tan Tui was so good, I can't even.

[@888kratos888]

thanks WIll , i enjoyed this ,. would be cool to see him do more Tan Tui and Cha Quan

[@huzhuiwei]

Another nice one Will, many thanks for posting. I regret not meeting Wang when I was living in Canberra, such smooth, concise movement and power.

[@Phil-0-Suffer]

Great video! Thank you for sharing this with us! If you ever get the chance, more Tan Tui videos would awesome! Thanks for the great content! 🙏

[@MonkeyStealsPeach]

If I can get back to China this year, that is actually part of the plan. Will post details when Im more certain.... COVID makes this all so damn difficult

[@DRAGONUZY12]

Excellent content brother - Keep up the great work!

[@AlIskanderZhao]

Great interview, Will

[@michaelburnell2803]

Bloody loved it 🙂👌 great vid....was disappointed when it ended

[@najmulhasansakibalhasan4342]

many thanks! you have my gratitude brother keep up the good work...

[@BeifengDaoren]

Thanks I enjoyed this talk and the insights a lot !!

[@Yerbluesful]

Great stuff! Would be awesome if he could show some Cha Quan applications!

[@IamNorthwind]

Love this!

[@danarobinson6156]

Love Hui Muslim Kung Fu. Have several old martial art movies showcasing this style.

[@thedoc99]

Do you have any recommendations

[@yogi8337]

Yup, do you have any recommendation movie?

[@MuShinMartialCulture]

Great stuff!

[@theloniusmonk1263]

Amazing!👏

[@robertschlesinger1342]

Very interesting and worthwhile video.

[@onlyhuman7420]

Great job as always.Please make a video on Mizongyi.Knowing that Huo Yuanjia was one of the best fighters in China it would be very interesting to see why the style he practiced was so successful and effective.

[@Lordfinessse]

Wow, so amazing, phenpmenal movement and execution of such a unique style. Have trained tan tui, and these forms are so special..

[@kungfuneuquen]

Thanks for sharing this interview. It is becoming clearer the big influence of the muslim martial arts on those supposed originals from Shaolin. In fact, according to some researchers texts from Shaolin regarding principles of xinyiba are just a copy of Hui texts of liuhe xinyi quan. Greetings.

[@bigwavesun]

Yes. Shaolin seems like it was more a preserver of martial arts, not so much a creator. I suspect the Shaolin origin is just nationalist propaganda from old days.

[@onedirection3510]

Good stuff! Is this part one of a series? I’d love to learn more. That “nunchaku” work looks really interesting.

[@MonkeyStealsPeach]

Just this one for now

[@joaovermelho0084]

Friend, if possible you could bring material about Southern Praying Mantis Styles, Bak Mei and Northern Style called Shao Bei. Thanks in advance.

[@hg12ud1]

I can give thousands of likes for this video

[@fudgetone]

Much respect, Shrfu Wang! Hen hao!!!

[@NorthStarMartialArtsUSA]

That is great stuff. Badly asked question at the end 'though. He just got done saying, basically, Xinyi quan is an expression of Taoist Golden Elixir practice. So the question should be, how specifically is this framed in Hui Muslim culture? Instead he got shut down by an assumption about changing vocabulary in transmission. I hope you have a chance to follow up that question, he seems incredibly generous!

[@engineerwrecker8153]

Xinyi liuhe ( Sometimes called Henan Style Xingyi) is great. Its the kung fu style that if you didn’t know better you would think your being pranked.

[@cartoontortoise]

Good stuff as always Will. What are the meanings in English of “Qi Shi” and “Tan Tui”? We practice a form with some similarities called Ti Tue.

[@MonkeyStealsPeach]

Qi Shi means Seven Postures. Tan Tui means “pond leg”. Ti Tui just means “doing kicks”, so it’s probably just Tan Tui tbh

[@cartoontortoise]

@@MonkeyStealsPeach Thanks!

[@joaovermelho0084]

Thank you very much for bringing this theme. I would like to know more about TAN TUI. Is it Kung Fu or Taolu style? Chin Woo School has a shape called Tan Tui. So I don't know if it's a style or a form. Could someone explain this better to me?

[@MonkeyStealsPeach]

Tan Tui is actually a full system of martial arts, but its basic roads have been adopted into many other styles

[@joaovermelho0084]

@@MonkeyStealsPeach Friend thank you very much!

[@wangwu07]

What do you mean with “taolu style”?

[@joaovermelho0084]

I asked if Tan Tui is a style or form of Kung Fu.@@wangwu07

[@grantsolomon7660]

I've learnt the Tan Tui 12 and the 10 but this Tam Tui is different to both.I understand that the 10 is condensed version of the original 22 each set being representative of one of the Arabic letters.Im wondering if this example is closer to the original 22 sets?

[@shawn6669]

Impressive.

[@yogi8337]

What a strong foundation, it looks unshakeable

[@syedumer24]

Please make a video on rare Qishiquan

[@mazisigmond7508]

Nice

[@gabrieljosefmerrun3088]

Very interesting, would have been interesting to know the historical connection between muslim styles in China and other taoist styles or methodology. Its interesting to know about the muslim kung fu styles.

[@yogi8337]

In the past, before comunism take control of the country Muslim style & other taoist style is teaching each other

[@SquirrlyJ]

That banner behind you, from Melville, Saskatchewan. What is that? I have family around there

[@MonkeyStealsPeach]

It was gifted to me by a fellow Mantis friend. You can take a look at the websites on it and should be able to find his contact

[@SquirrlyJ]

Ahh would that be Sifu Tim Oehler? I trained (and still do) in Regina, Saskatchewan at Chung Wah, where he was a Sifu for many years before moving to Melville. I suspected it was him because there is only one Kung fu school in that town. Small world!

[@MonkeyStealsPeach]

@@SquirrlyJ yep

[@SquirrlyJ]

@@MonkeyStealsPeach I should mention that I really appreciate all the work you put into your channel as well. Its been a great resource of information for me and I enjoy learning of the variety of styles you encounter. Keep it up!

[@MonkeyStealsPeach]

@@SquirrlyJ thanks so much for the kind words. Glad you find it beneficial

[@Tunks1]

👏👏👏

[@creightonfreeman8059]

He is exceptionally good! Peifu, Peifu!

[@hamoudi_d]

I would walk to him if I had to, just so that he can teach me!

[@abdullahibnrinibnpoat8915]

Assalaamu alaikum

[@peterwang5660]

I think the first part of the proverb he recites about Tan Tui at 5:05 means “the immortals of Kun Lun taught around the world”. “Immortals taught it” would have made the point but to mention they’re from the Kun Lun mountains does add a little more significance.

[@theheroandlegendchannel]

I've been practicing tan tui for like 30 plus years. KuYuCheungs father KuLiTzi was a top exponent of tantui. I figure that's what he taught his son first. Great to see tantui being brought to lite. Respects to Wong Jak Mon. Keep spreading or doing the same!!!!!

[@So-zz2vw]

hey , I'm a foreign student studying in Beijing. If you know a good teacher who teaches me kung fu in Beijing, please tell me.

[@MonkeyStealsPeach]

You should speak to Byron Jacobs, who runs the KZbin channel Mushin Martial Culture

[@So-zz2vw]

@@MonkeyStealsPeach I did thanks 💟

[@peterwang5660]

I find it possible for Daoism and Islam to coexist. There is an Islamic scholar significant enough to be found on Wikipedia who admired Confucianism. I think such combination of ideas would be natural for Hui people. Daoism of course would just be a way of interpreting Allah.

[@pug2411]

🙄

[@MonkeyStealsPeach]

The more philosophical aspects would fit, but the worship of deities and other rituals would definitely be haram

[@peterwang5660]

@@MonkeyStealsPeach Right.

[@peterwang5660]

@@pug2411 so… you disagree? I only mention this because there was a moment in the interview where Mr. Wang says his teacher was not Muslim, and he explained Xing Yi through Taoist thought. So I just said, that’s fine. And like Will says in the other reply here, it’s just a philosophical idea so it’s not eve haram anyways.

[@shimronlim5498]

The ancient Chinese (who weren't very monolithic at all), had a tendency to filter everything through Daoist lenses. Even Buddhism, when it arrived in China was passed through a Daoist filter. It wouldn't be surprising for the same thing to happen to Islam as well.

[@Naanu_2]

😂

[@MarkErrington]

I would gladly become a Muslim in order to learn these incredible arts.

[@manubishe]

I wonder what makes a martial art Muslim.

[@pug2411]

Какая странная вещь. Спросите маму, почему она вырастила такого грубого ребенка.

[@manubishe]

@@pug2411 well then, smart guy, what gives martial art a nationality, or religion? The Nepalese have their Kukris, along with mountainous lifestyle. The Dagestanis practice wrestling as physical communication in areas where mountains, bears and labour are found everywhere. English boxing may be a theatrical practice, with the payed price being lowering communication ability through facial expressions, and emathised pain on the part of the boxer's acquaintances. What makes this art Muslim?

[@manubishe]

@@pug2411 you strayed far from your culture, Or is Islam synonymous with Russian sacred groups?

[@pug2411]

@@manubishe успокойся дорогой. Плохо́му танцо́ру я́йца меша́ют

[@manubishe]

@@pug2411 there are more direct ways to say "shut up".

[@paragate]

There is no such thing as muslim Gongfu! There is only Gongfu!