A Theist Caller By Any Other Name... | The Atheist Experience: Throwback

[@idahogie]

"I feel like evolution via natural selection is true in my heart," said no scientist ever.

[@AbsurdlyGeeky]

But if they did, that would make them EXACTLY as credible as any theist. Fortunately, they sometimes do experiments and gather data.

[@Alacritous]

The only reason that anyone thinks there's a god is because another person told them there is a god. And the only reason THEY think there's a god is because someone ELSE told THEM.

[@jerrycallender-qm7zr]

ad infinitum

[@Alacritous]

@@jerrycallender-qm7zr it's skycake all the way down

[@EdithBromfeld]

Nonsense. Belief in God/Creator/Divinity/Great Spirit is ubiquitous because of the obvious evidence of highly engineered order, conscious beings, etc. AXP knuckleheads stupidly believe that belief in God is caused by religion rather than religion caused by belief in God. They foolishness is just stunning. You may as well believe pigpens cause pigs. Just staggeringly stupid. What's your excuse?

[@tonyclements1147]

@jeffreyr.gilbertjr.1321 And we can fact check it simply because we live in reality and donkeys, bushes and snakes don’t talk.

[@petyrkowalski9887]

They have all been conned.

[@JacobRamirez-li9dt]

It amazes me that something a small group of people made up (to control a larger group) a thousand years ago still thrives today.

[@tommystyx]

That shows it is a useful technique if you want to control others.

[@MissOne]

Some call it proof 😢

[@MisterG2323]

Humans haven't had near enough time to evolve past their base psychology at the time. We're just as tribal and hierarchical as ever.

[@allgrainbrewer10]

You just described every government ever.

[@JacobRamirez-li9dt]

@@allgrainbrewer10 Governments try to implement laws to protect people and make life fair for everyone. Religion is biased. Religion is hateful. Religion tells people how to feel. I should've added in my op "... ethics of a small group of people" but I thought it was implied by the video.

[@medalion1390]

You know it's going badly for the theist when they get to a point where they have to tap-dance around a question of whether the people in the room actually _exist._

[@AbsurdlyGeeky]

Religious dogma poisons your brain against accepting reality.

[@RideAcrossTheRiver]

Some of them do try to disprove reality.

[@HuxtableK]

It's so cute when their counter response to arguments against their position is to bring up Hard Solipsism. It means they have nothing. Because their religion doesn't solve it either.

[@Mr_Porter]

I remember each of Andrew's calls, and frankly, they were all equally exasperating. He seemed to have a prepared script for most of them. He kept calling for weeks, and the majority of his calls started with "ummm yeah...ummm I was wondering why you don't believe in God," as if he had not already asked that question on several previous calls.

[@TheSnoeedog]

Don't forget the (un)constrained sobbing and assorted noises that have no acceptable explanation. I'm pretty sure it was one of this muppet's calls that some insightful audience member opined that it's nice that the caller took the time out of his day to call-in.... *FROM A BUCKET FACTORY* He's like a precursor to Anthony, the "latest" (all things are relative; especially with clips being re-released) troll who's schtick is so unimpressive...I'm convinced it's just a game to see how long he can keep his shitty microphone way too loud and pressing against his lips *DESPITE EVERY ONE OF HIS CALLS BEGINNING WITH AN ACKNOWLEDGEMENT THAT HIS AUDIO SUCKS, A SUGGESTION FROM THE HOSTS, AN ATTEMPT TO FOLLOW THE SUGGESTION (AUDIO GOES NORMAL FOR A FEW SENTENCES), AND THEN BACK TO PRETENDING HE DOESN'T KNOW HOW TO USE HIS SHITTY PHONE, DESPITE OFFERING A DISCLAIMER INITIALLY THAT HE HAS SHITTY AUDIO (AND THE MERRY-GO-ROUND CONTINUES....) ....but I'm happy to see that I'm not the only one who genuinely thinks this caller is a legitimate embarrassment; the load his mother should have swallowed (or at the least, she could have insisted her brother pull out)...a parody of intelligence, masquerading as a caricature of a well-adjusted human being.

[@sfprivateer]

But I told call screener my name is Alexandra from Nepal. You can't know it was me. My nasal voice cannot possibly give me away.

[@renedekker9806]

It is sad to hear how confused about reality he becomes just because he has a feeling that he cannot justify.

[@marksc111]

Maybe that feeling is gas.

[@jackwaycombe]

I have no problem with people who think/believe like this caller. It's a free country and life's too short for conflict. But the trouble starts - and for many atheists simply can't be avoided - when religious people insist that I be COMPELLED to think their way and that our education systems have a 'duty' to indoctrinate my children that way - often by multiple religious clerics who have found their way, usually unelected, onto education boards. I've not only been refused jobs in education systems, I've had witness evidence summarily dismissed as obvious lies by a judge because I'd insisted on an Affirmation rather than a Bible Oath. An Affirmation it soon became clear I took far more seriously than people who waved Bibles about. I'm NOT saying this caller feels that way. But thousands - millions - of religious people DO - and organised religion widely and enthusiastically enables that abuse. And where it occurs, it IS abuse. I'm 80 years old and have been atheist since the effort to beat religion into me only succeeded in beating it out of me at the age of 7. And for every religiot in my life who asked why I don't believe (a fair question) I've encountered SO many more who threatened "How DARE you REFUSE to believe? You'll be PUNISHED!!!" And even today, when believers finally and desperately run out of logic and argument, don't they ALWAYS resort to the pathetic threat that I'll know better when I die?

[@normkeller2405]

You said that you don't mind what others believe, as long as you aren't compelled to believe it, correct? My problem with anyone, especially myself believing that which does not comport with reality is that our beliefs form our actions and our actions affect others. That appears to form the basis for a moral responsibility to believe as many true things as possible, and as few false things as possible. I believe that we all have an ethical responsibility to support that which comports with reality and to oppose that which doesn't. What are your thoughts on that?

[@jackwaycombe]

@@normkeller2405 I rarely get that complicated. I'm happy to settle for one principle when it comes to religiots. If they stay out of my way (and that includes education and legislation) I'll stay out of theirs. Compare clothes on Sundays if you please, but leave me out of it. It gets even less complicated for someone who tells my just-started-school son he's going to burn for eternity because he's godless (a very long time ago, admittedly.) Now there we had a guy cruisin' for a bruisin'.

[@tedgrant2]

Why don't you believe in gremlins? Oh, you do ! Ok, so what makes you think Gremlins exist ? Oh, your washing machine is leaking !

[@ahah86]

I love how, when you debate a believer, no matter how close your example is, their answer is always "but God is different".

[@brucebaker810]

Special Pleading. Their deity is Everything. Or different than Everything. Or, often, both.

[@richardhedd3080]

The mental gymnastics required to be a believer is fascinating to me.

[@analogalien651]

Is that a properly basic belief. ??? 😜

[@petyrkowalski9887]

I actually think its intellectual laziness.

[@Arminius420]

Its even worse if you're a flat earther

[@elias8141]

Yeah i mean 2000 years of theology and philosophy is just some “mental gymnastics” and should be thrown in the trash.

[@tonyclements1147]

Olympic level gymnastics.

[@AaronParker1977]

I'm really loving these throwbacks! Thank you for these!

[@christianblevins1870]

Seems to me the only time reality is in doubt is when someone is trying to fool yourself or make yourself doubt what you know.

[@jaotree]

I have a strong feeling I’m debt free. No more student loans! Woo-hooo!!! I’m’uh buy me a boat!

[@pdoylemi]

We can also confirm memories to an extent. I have a memory of a whitewater rafting trip in 1993. I also have a VIDEOTAPE from that trip! I have photographs, and I can talk to other people, such as my wife, who were also on that trip.

[@claudiaarjangi4914]

True. And there is literally no other way you can "remember" what happened on that trip. That's where they don't get the difference. You have no other option than see what's in front of your eyes, touch what's in your hands, remember what you remember etc But you DO have a choice as to whether you say "I DONT actually see something , but I'm going to say it IS here anyway. They are adding an extra thing that they DO have an option not to add.. 🤔🌏☮️

[@pdoylemi]

@@claudiaarjangi4914 Exactly. And while we do not all remember the trip exactly the same, the major points we all agree upon. And the video helps. For example, my wife was sure I got tossed out of the raft in one set of rapids, and I was sure I managed to hang on, though I almost got tossed, and that happened to be on the tape and we saw that I was going over and my friend Bill grabbed my life jacket and kept me in. But in their world, it would be as reasonable for me to claim I was falling and a choir of angels lifted me back into the boat.

[@claudiaarjangi4914]

@@pdoylemi Hehe, good one.😁🌏☮️

[@claudiaarjangi4914]

@@pdoylemi Hehe, good one.😁🌏☮️

[@renedekker9806]

​@@pdoylemi _"a choir of angels lifted me back into the boat."_ - are you sure Bill is not an angel? 😉

[@michaelmerriott2155]

If we never mentioned God, spirit, heaven, hell ect... to anyone under the age of reason this problem would work itself out.

[@ParanormalEncyclopedia]

They'd just make up their own versions. I believe many atheists would say that no one told the first humans to develop an idea if gods or the afterlife avout them

[@amtlpaul]

For me, the issue of hard solipsism- whether the reality we live and experience is the 'ultimate' one or not- is secondary to getting on in THIS reality, unless and until there is evidence for this different ultimate reality I will awaken into from this mere dream. Practically apeaking, we have to get on with the business of living in the reality we are presented with.

[@joemiller7082]

This kid was demonstrated to be a Poe. He was in the audience at a later date saying he was trolling and didn’t actually believe a god exists.

[@uncleanunicorn4571]

Yes there are quite a few theists who will shift the goal posts and question whether reality is real if you try to get to the specifics of why they believe.

[@diogeneslamp8004]

I don’t believe it. Not because I don’t believe you but because I’m not giving a Poe a free pass because some asshole decided he wanted a bit of fun while wasting everyone else’s time. His punishment is to be forever labeled a particularly obtuse example of theist because he might be lying about being an atheist. He’s already demonstrated that he’s willing to lie about this topic.

[@Mr_Porter]

Any source on that?

[@catkeys6911]

Just like a lot of Flat Earthers, I suspect. Just a mind game for the bored.

[@socksumi]

This weirdo called in many times under different names and guises. Claims were all over the map including a full on theist, an agnostic or he refused to say what his beliefs were and the hosts let him get away with it. I could not believe how this troll calls in under different names from different states and each time he calls and no one including the hosts or the call takers notices? One time he sounded like he was doing a line of cocaine as he snorted away through the whole call. Over the few months he called his voice got scratchier and scratchier, something strange definitely going on with this prick.

[@ilovethe80sNW]

So according to Josh's standards then anyone claiming to have experienced any God(s) that they happen to believe in, whether it's the Hindu god or Zeus or Thor or the Muslim God or the Native American Gods. Then no one can claim that there is one and only one true God. Because according to Josh it's their feeling and their experience.

[@Ghalaghor_McAllistor]

I told something similar to a theist. All they replied with was asking me how I can be an atheist if I believe in other gods.

[@smochygrice465]

Thank God for creating atheism 🙏 And a good Friday Morning 🌞 AXP Fans and Theists ❤❤❤ Peace Love Empathy From Australia 🇦🇺✌️😎👊

[@elias8141]

Hahaha… i guess?

[@iloveeyouuP]

When I was a kid I was believer too and my entire family is believer (in Hindu gods, We are Hindu from India), but when I turned 15 I started to question the existence of god to my parents and they just ignore my question with only answer that u should believe in god, there is no questioning him... They don't give you a reasonable answer they would just say "Oh it is this" or "Oh it is that"... And I hate it and also this religion and god thing has ruined India...

[@Leith_Crowther]

I have a curiosity question: when Hindus talk about “God,” I often hear them use the singular sense, as if there’s only one god. You aren’t the first (former) Hindu I’ve heard do that. If Hindus believe multiple gods exist, why do they so often use the word “God” singular to refer to them?

[@dorsdonstowe9403]

Yes, religion is the enemy of God w/ it's ritual, man made tradition and liturgy. God is all about RELATIONSHIP and Hinduism is a stupid religion w/ it's 40 million gods. We all have a faith regarding this world & it's cause/source. Atheism is the dumbest religion, but Hinduism isn't far behind.

[@iloveeyouuP]

@@Leith_Crowther cuz most of them believe in every god but are devoted towards one or few, mostly one... But like I've heard people (including my mum) say that Shiva is the original god and then came Vishnu and from Vishnu's navel came Brahma and so on, idk (I might be wrong)... In short the Shiva-focused Puranas describe Brahma and Vishnu to have been created by Ardhanarishvara, that is half Shiva and half Parvati; or alternatively, Brahma was born from Rudra, or Vishnu, Shiva and Brahma creating each other cyclically in different aeons (kalpa)

[@iloveeyouuP]

@@Leith_Crowther There is so much going on sometimes

[@tonyclements1147]

@@dorsdonstowe9403 “Hinduism is a stupid religion..” Right, and yours is so much better, telling children they’re broken and they need an imaginary friend to hold their hand their whole life because death is scary and they better behave ‘cause they’re gonna suffer forever if they don’t..

[@rhecb]

Totally enjoyed this stream 🙌🏻

[@Kendahlarama]

Great show!!! 😊

[@dimitrioskalfakis]

conversations with presuppositionalists are always a waste of time. it's like accepting blindly a pseudo-axiom that does not manifest in reality or capable of being tested in contrast to logic. funny thing is that whether the caller actually believes this crap is irrelevant to the impression since actual believers of this sound just as bad.

[@ROOKTABULA]

"Properly basic belief": _MY feels are more valid than anyone else's because mine are about my Skyfriend."_ 🙄

[@terminusest5902]

If god does exist he does not deserve my worship.

[@ou7shined972]

Did his feeling also tell him which of the 2 or 3 hundreds of gods it was that he had a feeling about?

[@donnakeferlis1649]

Mental illness just breaks my heart. And religion pisses me off because it makes mental illness worse.

[@theklaus7436]

The short answer is lack of evidence. And especially this creepy old book sounds like an insane man/ or men has been trying acid

[@joshsheridan9511]

I've never believed in gods and ever theistic god concept I've been presented witn is ludicrous

[@dorsdonstowe9403]

You're a liar according to God. I can debunk any atheist idea in IRREFUTABLE FACTUAL DETAIL. God says all atheists are liars (Romans 1:20). You know FULL WELL that a rock can't come from NOTHING and produce a human being REGARDLESS of what amount of "TIME" you place in the equation.

[@joshsheridan9511]

​@@dorsdonstowe9403there are tribes that have no concept of gods Bible debunked in one sentence

[@t800fantasm2]

@@dorsdonstowe9403 'You're a liar according to God. I" No, YOU called him a liar... YOU first have to grow a pair and stop being a lying c*nt before we take anything you post seriously... Why are you such a malignant f**k up... ? " that a rock can't come from NOTHING " He didn't claim that... You are a LIAR. YOU are the only one that says anything about coming from NOTHING...

[@EdithBromfeld]

Who cares what you DON'T believe? You got curb-stomped on the evidence for God. You are reduced to a barking dog. Just empty noise.

[@t800fantasm2]

@@EdithBromfeld " You are reduced to a barking dog." Shut up mutt.... " You got curb-stomped on the evidence for God. " That describes you... " empty noise." Yup, that's you...

[@RideAcrossTheRiver]

"Why don't you believe in god?" ... is interrogation, not a question.

[@dalecs47]

"Why don't you believe in my god? I need you to believe so that you will have to listen to me, do what I tell you to do and give me money."

[@allenherinckx4474]

I like how their answer has changed to, "what god?'.

[@bryanjohnson7508]

What I believe is most people experience emotionalism when they go to church and read the Bible. They feel like they need something to save them from their selves. Because they've been told their wicked and evil. It's awful what I've gone through thinking I was this evil person. Or as a filthy rag.

[@capthavic]

Whenever they ask why don't you believe, my response is "Why would I?" If everything seems to work just fine without a God, why would I have need of one?

[@elias8141]

Morality and ethics, creation, justice, and experience… what about those?

[@tonyclements1147]

⁠@@elias8141 Creation..prove it. The others are things humans figured out all by themselves.

[@elias8141]

@@tonyclements1147 Have you ever heard about the first mover? The cosmological argument? The ontological argument? What do you mean by “humans figured out all” elaborate, what is our unified theory of ethics that we have figured out according to you then? Moreover, I am talking more about the existence of these things (ethics, self, justice) not their discovery.

[@tonyclements1147]

🤦‍♂️😂

[@elias8141]

@@tonyclements1147 yeah good luck

[@inkysteve]

I can acquire a DVD player but I can't acquire a God player, well not yet anyway.

[@DarrinKemp-lr1cz]

A god player sounds a little kinky.

[@jerrycallender-qm7zr]

"...rationality of specific religious beliefs.."? How delusional can an individual be?

[@AM-xr1hm]

What a heap of nonsensical stupidity.... because we can't have absolute certainty about what we experience. Therefore, any feelings are just as valid ... pure bull...it

[@petyrkowalski9887]

I dont believe in god or gods for the same reasons I dont believe in the Loch Ness Monster, Santa, the tooth fairy or alien abduction.

[@joshsheridan9511]

​@@lifeinthe80she doesn't exist no matter how you feel

[@elias8141]

Are comparing the creator of all beings the maximally great being with the tooth fairy!

[@elias8141]

@@joshsheridan9511 bravo, you are smart now what?

[@joshsheridan9511]

@@elias8141 well they have the same amount of real evidence

[@joshsheridan9511]

@@elias8141 now nothing, unless you have any actual evidence believing in god thingies is no different to an adult believing in the tooth fairy

[@CaneFu]

This "matrix" nonsense comes from the movie by the same name. People don't give our five senses enough credit while giving imaginary BS too much credit. I KNOW FOR A FACT that I wasn't just created 5 seconds ago with artificial memories and don't need to prove that to anyone so stop entertaining BS arguments that have absolutely nothing behind them but imagination. Reality isn't that hard to know if you aren't insane.

[@analogalien651]

Way too much magical thinking and far too little critical/ rational thinking and logical reasoning.

[@alexhetherington8028]

This caller's arguments are weak as fuck. I could just say the same to him and say it is my properly basic belief that God does not exist. What absolute nonsense

[@nmappraiser9926]

I don't believe because every claim I've ever heard about any god is either unfalsifiable, or false.

[@elias8141]

Unfalsifiable meaning true?

[@joshsheridan9511]

​@@elias8141nope unprovable

[@nmappraiser9926]

@@elias8141 No, unfalsifiable meaning unable to be true or false. It's an argument that is irrelevant or meaningless. In this context it usually refers to statements that are impossible to verify, or so vague as to be useless.

[@tonyclements1147]

@@elias8141 IF prayer works as the Bible says it does, why can’t your god heal just one devout Christian amputee, or Alzheimer’s patient?

[@elias8141]

@@tonyclements1147 because, why would he?? The road to Christ is not a path of pleasure, Christian carry their crosses in humility not in pride. If you are with god you will face pain, but you would be way more happier than those who fulfill themselves with earthy pleasures. (Compar an addict to any Christian saint see the difference)

[@randyzeitman1354]

It would be pretty nice and cool to summarize the key points from your show at the end of the show ... and caption it on the screen... (1) Feelings, personal or shared, aren't evidence.

[@NotAPacifist825]

25 years of weekly shows is....1300 shows, give or take. If you did it you would surely be famous in the atheist community.

[@HankC9174]

too funny ask a question that the show has answered for 10 years

[@Folkstone1957]

This guy, same script & yet another name.

[@a-blivvy-yus]

I can honestly say that I, and a number of other people I know, have had experiences which defy normal explanation, and in some cases are corroborated by others. Those events *should* be dismissed as unlikely/implausible by anyone who didn't experience them and/or wasn't a witness to them. In spite of there being good reason for people not involved to reject such experiences, the people who had those experiences have good reason to accept them. While *most* people can confirm a shared experience of *most* of the basic concepts of reality, there are some discrepancies, and often people who were in the same place at the same time can give contradictory answers about events that happened. One person might claim something happened while the other would assert something that's impossible to be true if it had. They might both agree on the events that happened, but not on the order in which they happened. For some people, personal experiences - which they can legitimately agree *not* to assert as valid reason for *someone else* to believe, can be sufficient for *them* to believe something that would ordinarily fall outside of the normal bounds of consensus reality. I've had experiences which I'm convinced were the result of delusion/hallucination (drug induced and not), and I've had experiences which don't conform with my normal expectations about reality, but which I've either had third party corroboration for, or have otherwise had reasons to beleive they were more than just hallucinations. Those experiences are part of my personal beliefs, but I won't try and insist that others should believe the same based on my experience, if their own experiences don't support the same conclusion.

[@BeefT-Sq]

"I am primarily the creator of a new code of morality which has so far been believed impossible, namely a morality not based on faith, not on arbitrary whim, not on emotion, not on arbitrary edict, mystical or social, but on reason; a morality that can be proved by means of logic which can be demonstrated to be true and necessary. Now may I define what my morality is? Since man’s mind is his basic means of survival […] he has to hold reason as an absolute, by which I mean that he has to hold reason as his only guide to action, and that he must live by the independent judgment of his own mind; that his highest moral purpose is the achievement of his own happiness […] that each man must live as an end in himself, and follow his own rational self-interest." -Ayn Rand-

[@Freethinker1958]

I believe that I am present on this planet, and I believe that I have 10 billion dollars. I have to be correct. I need to start spending this money. I do not foresee any problems with that. If problems do arise from me spending money that I believe that I have, those problems are not real. The problems are not real because I feel it. I will be fine. Later, after I am put into prison for theft and fraud (exactly what the Christian televangelists get away with), that won't be real because I do not feel it.

[@JohnKoenig-db8lk]

I don't think the caller is real.

[@metalman5655]

That woman's gorgeous for real

[@floppyseizure8615]

I dunno about that.

[@metalman5655]

​@@floppyseizure8615oh I know

[@SecondaryHomunculus]

I don't believe in god because I created the universe this morning, and I left too many idiots in it. I'll try to do better next Thursday.

[@elias8141]

Jimmy, I told you to uninstall the game and touch some grass, didn’t I?

[@Diwwah]

I wonder what the original person/people who invented the christian god would think if they heard that after thousands of years vast amounts of people still believe in their con.

[@jackwaycombe]

I suspect most people who invent gods - and there have been a lot - are often content if the fraudulent profit simply lasts their lifetime.

[@oscarsotelo8548]

Is that Josh as in Joto😂

[@csadler]

I feel so sorry for those that are religious and think like Josh.

[@dorsdonstowe9403]

STOP with the stupidity already. Atheism is a religion. A religion of “SELF.” Instead of properly worshipping God and putting him first in your life; YOU PUT YOURSELF FIRST. EVERYBODY HAS A FAITH. It’s just that your faith is stupid. Atheism tenets (e.g. big bang, abiogenesis, mistakes (mutations) gaining in complexity/new information, star formation, evolution) I debunk w/ ease. Any belief re the cause of this universe is a religion and you've tagged yourself an "atheist" because you believe atheist ideas re the cause of this universe (nature: time/space/matter/energy. You also believe that evolution is the "controlling power" over life, instead of God. THAT is religion. Either you have a RATIONAL POSSIBLE world view or you don't. To be an atheist and have no factual basis for your cult, is to be content to be even more lost and clueless than yesterday. Why do you cling so desperately to an asinine atheist cult that's INFAMOUS the world over for having ZERO ANSWERS? Could you be more lost and clueless? Einstein called atheism "a religion formed to reject other religions. How cute and desperate they are." I know it hurts to know that the most famous and respected scientist of our generation believed atheists to be pathetic idiots LOL

[@tonyclements1147]

@@dorsdonstowe9403 Atheism isn’t a religion, you get this explained to you every day in multiple threads by multiple people multiple times a day and you still act like you’ve never heard it.

[@dorsdonstowe9403]

@@tonyclements1147 Wrong. I just explained what atheism is (faith in a godless world) and you have no refute when all you can do is say "no." I can also add to the facts of what atheism is: Atheism is a sect of lost and clueless, rebellious biased delusional losers than have no answers and insult those that do ;) Yes, atheism IS a belief system. A debunked faith. What if Jesus showed up tomorrow? Then your BELIEF about CHRISTIANITY would have been WRONG. Your saying that it’s NOT a belief system is based on a sort of an “all-knowing” arrogance. “Weez atheists KNOW the truth about all things-everything dat ever happened in the history of mankind. DEREFORE, we iz KNOWERS, not BELIEVERS.” Egads.... Atheism is a religion. Everybody has a belief and atheism is just one of those cultish beliefs. Atheism is INFAMOUS the world over for having ZERO ANSWERS. No atheist has a RATIONAL/POSSIBLE, step-by-step atheist explanation for reality. That's because there isn't one. That's because God is real. It's time you wise up & dump your atheist cult. I'll help you.

[@diogeneslamp8004]

@@dorsdonstowe9403 No. You understand that we hold religion in low regard so you twist the meaning of a well understood word (in this context) to mean something that it doesn’t so you can try to tar our (lack of) belief with the same brush. In other words, you’re saying that atheism is just as bad as religion. We agree that religion is bad, but atheism lacks all of the religious-y things that makes for a proper religion. It _is_ a startling admission on your part that religion is bad. We can at least agree on that.

[@dorsdonstowe9403]

@@diogeneslamp8004 I think I was clear on what I said & meant & proved. We all have a faith. Atheism is one of those faiths. You believe in a Godless reality, but you have no supporting factual evidence for your faith and there's no excuse for that, because your "NATURAL CAUSE" can't HIDE because it's within nature (time/space/matter/energy) and yet we can't take any part of "NATURE" into the lab and observe that it produces anything. That's because nature never produces anything. God produced nature and nature only repeats it's programming. Nature is the effect and not the cause (God).

[@HeardFromMeFirst]

I beleive Josh is not serious.. I beleive he is known as, what we would call in England as a "Wind up merchant" I would not waste any more time on him.

[@graemerose1616]

Real? Only humans need "God" as far as we know, yet other animals survive things we do not, get on better without the need. Ask the Tardegrades, happily ignorant of any God, so if they have been around for 600 million years, without, says a lot about humans that need one.

[@cshubs]

And they have god-like powers to survive anywhere!!

[@graemerose1616]

@@cshubs Yet if you say you have spoken to a tardegrade that speaks human, you get called mad / stupid by believers of a snake that talks human.

[@MrCanis4]

God is a feeling and unicorn is a feeling. But god is a special kind of feeling. 😂😂😂😂

[@deniss2623]

Why would I invent a Moral Authority to which I must give account, knowing beyond any doubt that I would be found guilty?

[@amtlpaul]

You didn't. Someone else did, projecting their own feelings of guilt upon everyone.

[@joshsheridan9511]

But you invent a moral authority that gives you a get out of hell free card That way you can feel superior to those without your invented authority

[@Leith_Crowther]

I don’t know why you would. Your reasons are you own. I only know that you did.

[@deniss2623]

​@amtlpaul So why would they do it to themselves in the first place?

[@deniss2623]

​@@joshsheridan9511 Are you saying there isn't a higher moral authority than yourself?

[@UckU7777]

If this guy is made in his god's image, ouch!!!!

[@Devious_Dave]

14:00 "Is that a properly basic belief?" I hope the caller was embarrassed by that pathetic line... but maybe he's just as shameless as Frank Turek.

[@tedgrant2]

Presumably, there must have been a first theist. Perhaps he or she wondered about the cause of rain and why it stops (Genesis 7:11, 8:2)

[@HoneyTone-TheSearchContinues]

Why are you referencing the biblical flood story? Do you think there weren’t other theists before that mythological time?

[@tedgrant2]

@HoneyTone-TheSearchContinues The idea that a god causes rain obviously predates the Bible story. I referred to the story just to annoy people who believe it. They don't really believe there are windows in Heaven.

[@HoneyTone-TheSearchContinues]

@ Thanks for the heads up. My sarcasm detector wasn’t working that day I guess. But I think you know you’re at least partially wrong. Many biblical flood believers accept the sky window stuff and the springs in the deep, or some other sort-of-natural-explanation for coming and going of all the water. As if that makes the story more believable somehow, I suppose. The Genesis writers couldn’t just say their god made it rain and then made it dry up. He needed to work through faux natural structures. SMH.

[@tedgrant2]

@@HoneyTone-TheSearchContinues What really fascinates me is the explanation for the rainbow. He put the bow in the cloud to remind himself to close the windows ! It's like a celestial post-it note. (Genesis 9:16)

[@SqwarkParrotSpittingFeathers]

You’ve been on this phone call for at least five minutes. That gives us a collective experience of the past and our reality. Tell us about your reality of god?

[@derekwarburton3258]

Trying to throw doubt on reality to justify a “feeling” that god is real as though the two things are comparable is ridiculous.

[@cthoadmin7458]

I have an inner voice, an intuition, that I am a poached egg. You say I'm not but how do you know that?

[@Disentropic1]

No no, I have exactly the same intuition: you really _are_ a poached egg.

[@diogeneslamp8004]

@@Disentropic1 This is crazy: I have the same feelings about the OP!

[@Disentropic1]

@@diogeneslamp8004 My comment seems to be invisible to me so I'm not sure what you're responding to, sorry about that, sounds like a clever one.

[@diogeneslamp8004]

@@Disentropic1 Your comment was clever, mine was piggybacking off yours. Guarantee it’s not worth it to find it!

[@greenjelly01]

The problem of solipsism is not comparable to lack of faith in God. Even if we ARE minds in vat, it changes nothing about how this world we experience functions. If you claim something is different you specifically have to prove that.

[@Devious_Dave]

Hearing something repeated to you all your life does not make it properly basic.🤦

[@danshaw-qb2sg]

God is a ridiculous concept

[@justincredible.]

You can have pictures and videos of your memories....

[@Leith_Crowther]

Well, no, what you can have are pictures and videos of things that happened in the past (and things that didn’t happen, in some cases).

[@NotAPacifist825]

​@@Leith_Crowtheryou know what he meant.

[@Kalense]

Troll.

[@philipinchina]

A very unreliable interlocutor.

[@Heathen.Deity.]

I’ve got no evidence so let’s question reality itself. Yawn.

[@glennjulien-fg2eu]

That was cringe bigtime

[@MrBozoOzo]

Its hard to listen to you guys and girls, argue with mental toddlers calling the show

[@tommccarthy3052]

Well then the "mental toddlers" need to wise up...then again maybe they enjoy sounding stupid & getting beat up. 😏😁

[@diogeneslamp8004]

You play the hand you’re dealt. Jonathan McClatchie has called in and it didn’t really go much better.

[@mutantryeff]

The letters in 'atheist' also spell 'eatshit'

[@Sundae_Times]

So?

[@GroundhogRoy]

And 'Christian' is an anagram of 'shit in car'. What's your point?

[@joecoolioness6399]

When someone approaches me with their nonsense fairy tales about some murderous sky daddy I will now tell them to "eatshit". Thanks!

[@joshsheridan9511]

The letters in god also spell dog Does that make god the bestest pupper?

[@HalloichheisseSpooky]

Same to you :)

[@Arminius420]

The show was better before it got taken over by a bunch of Gen Zers

[@jayjasespud]

How wonderfully ageist.

[@bunnybismuth]

​@@joeydutch7178 cry more, fascist

[@Hscaper]

Fake caller

[@GoodBrotherGrimm]

Proof?

[@richardyoung4400]

Our well-being depends on the Word of God...Reading the Bible daily is essential so that our spirit will be nourished. ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤ The Spirit gives life; the flesh counts for nothing. The words I have spoken to you-they are full of the Spirit and life. JOHN 6:63

[@Sundae_Times]

More passages that show how much God ‘loves’ us: Deuteronomy 23: 1-2 Ephesians 6: 5 Exodus 12: 29 Exodus 21: 7 Genesis 6: 17 Luke 14: 26 Numbers 4: 27 Numbers 31: 1-54 Psalms 137: 9 Titus 2: 9

[@joshsheridan9511]

My well being has bugger all to do with god thingies

[@canbest7668]

You do know that this sounds like blah, blah, blah!

[@Seticzech]

Reading bible from cover to cover is what makes atheists from devout believers.

[@N_IRL]

Womp womp

[@vidadz7291]

There's often a clue to be had, in the theist caller's first name. I notice that they're never called 'Beelzebub'. Just sayin' :)