A Totally Biased Review of the Kirchhoff EQ

In which I finally look at the Kirchhoff EQ from Plugin Alliance, and try to answer the questions; does it sound better than Pro-Q3? Is it better than Pro-Q3? Is it going to be my new goto EQ in future?
0:00 intro
1:40 ergonomics
3:39 null tests with Pro-Q3
9:23 listening test
10:21 117 bit mode (not 114 bit as I kept calling it)
12:47 continuous filter slopes
15:06 analogue modelled curves
24:17 theming options
24:38 mixed phase mode
26:02 stereo options
30:17 high pass filters and the left / right slider
31:46 Dynamics!
note: a couple of Kirchhoff clips towards the end are really blurry. I've no idea why, I recorded them the same way as an the rest. Didn't spot it until the edit, and didn't have time to go back and redo. it's not your eyes or your display. Apologies.
Kirchhoff EQ (not an afilliate link)
www.threebodytech.com/en/prod...
Follow up: • My Kirchhoff Kock-up
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[@MrBitflipper]

No one but Dan could entice me to spend 45 minutes watching a detailed comparison of two practically identical EQs.

[@off1off1]

You still should question your self, in summer out there...

[@benbenzon]

Pro Q3 really doesnt sound like Kirchoff, both during boosting and cutting. Im a daily user of both EQ .

[@CesarMalacon]

haha same here.... :-@)

[@diegodeltoro5190]

And watch it several times...

[@Arcessitor]

@@benbenzonHow is it different if it nulls?

[@banterbanter]

Previously, I was using soundtoys decapitator for surgical eq and waves tune for dynamic eq but was getting mixed results. Having watched this, I'll now be using waves Abbey Road Plate.

[@AlburpCatstein]

What in the actual…

[@facelessmule]

Word!

[@stevedoesnt]

Finally. Someone able to creatively think outside the box.

[@jamesgrant3343]

‘Mixed’ results - top pun

[@gorillagorilla111]

When I finish my mixes, I then bounce them down into the trash bin.

[@immtonmischer]

I really wonder what will happen first: - Kirchoff developers implement the changes Dan suggested - Pro-Q 4 comes out, having all the extra features of the Kirchoff implemented in a way Dan suggested I wonders what ya'll think 🤔

[@Mansardian]

Fabfilter, saying that as a non- Fabfilter customer. Considering the fact that Dan is the voice of Fabfilter ...

[@firmans12]

I love the sound of kirchoff. But i hate the interface so much

[@vadimmartynyuk]

Cubase’s Frequency 2 has the best dynamic eq and sidechain section. But the big limitation is 8 frequency bands

[@Breakbeat90s]

so you get two identical plugins?

[@Maradnus]

I wont be taking any bets!!! but I will enjoy the race

[@Rhuggins]

Watching Dan’s reviews are akin to watching a thrilling murder mystery. Plot Twists and excitement throughout. Well done 🙏🏽

[@BigMTBrain]

Indeed! He's truly a master at creating compelling... ANYTHING. I was going to say "tutorials", but how captivating it would be to hear audiobooks of any genre delivered by Dan.

[@bakharandi]

He is the Sherlock Holmes of audio engineering ! (-;

[@steveshadforth]

better than valium

[@chamboyette853]

As a proud American, the problem I have with Dan Worall is that he doesn't speak English and has that stupid foreign accent. He should learn English before giving any advice. Oh, before someone starts calling me a racist, I support Ukraine.

[@AutPen38]

This sets a good example of what KZbin reviews should be like: If you state your known biases, remain aware of unconscious biases, keep your bullshit detector running at all times, and actually know what you're talking about, viewers will grant you the respect and admiration you deserve. For now at least, Dan, you own my trust. I hope you continue to keep producing authoritative video reviews and tutorials.

[@jeramiahrossnz]

That moment when a Review of EQ is better than anything on Netflix...Yep!

[@Tryggvasson]

everything is better than anything on netflix.

[@jeramiahrossnz]

@@Tryggvasson true but this EQ review, great 👍

[@Orrinton]

Well except maybe Stranger Things and Breaking Bad

[@jeramiahrossnz]

@@Orrinton true. Breaking bad was awesome, haven’t got around to stranger things yet. But thanks for reminding me.

[@Googahgee]

What a wonderful video to wake up to. we’re eatin good today, folks! regardless of whether Dan likes the plugin or not, I’m definitely excited to hear a fresh perspective on it

[@bakharandi]

Amen ! Dan is Brilliant ! After watching the latest news dramas of Adolpho McTwitLer/Adolphus McDRumphy, and seeing flashes of Lord Hildemort, in the online news cycles . . . I was Saved by this New Dan Worrall Episode . . . Yet another Riveting Thriller from the Sherlock Holmes of Audio Engineering! (-;

[@61636]

that 117 bit null test... hilarious!

[@AVDRE]

I know right lol

[@oleksiysytnik]

3:24 - You can add an HPF or an LPF by clicking near the ends of the spectrum, but you need to set it up to do so in settings. I don't know why they didn't make the EQ behave like this by default.

[@sub-jec-tiv]

Probably because they want to be able to say ‘see ours doesn’t perform identically.’

[@oleksiysytnik]

@@sub-jec-tiv maybe! It is still a good alternative to Pro-Q, especially for the price, but it feels a little rough on the edges.

[@iainmcguire7190]

@@oleksiysytnik how so?

[@oleksiysytnik]

@@iainmcguire7190 sorry, "how so" what exactly?

[@iainmcguire7190]

@@oleksiysytnik how does it feel a little rough around the edges?

[@db4ks]

The only review that matters is the Dan Worrall review

[@siondudley]

“Two L’s in ‘Worrall,’ please”

[@db4ks]

@@siondudley my apologies fellow commenter! I was in a hurry to write my comment due to my desire to immediately view this much anticipated review.

[@DanielPestanaTranslations]

Just bought it after watching your video. It seems to suit my needs. Thank you for your high quality work, Dan.

[@parentteachernight]

Other reasons I'll stick with Pro-Q3: • Many of my clients and collaborators also use it, making session-swapping painless. • UI conventions are consistent from one FF tool to another. I look at the total bundle as an integrative whole. • A proven record of backward compatibility from one plug-in iteration to the next. • Years and years of compatibility upgrades and customer support from FF have ingrained a sense of trust in the developers. I'm happy to pay a higher sticker price for a perpetual license knowing that the product will receive the necessary support going forward, and that FF are always developing something exciting in the meantime. Maybe I could do the same things but cheaper with Kirchoff but FF is reasonably priced already for what they offer and the added cost doesn't just get pissed away. FF deserve to profit so they can pay themselves and reinvest in their product line. It's good for the long-term stability of the toolset they offer.

[@venericanone]

Why not both? 🤷🏽‍♂️

[@parentteachernight]

@@venericanone Why both?

[@sub-jec-tiv]

- already own ProQ and fully happy with it for transparent EQ

[@MrTunes333]

@@parentteachernight Because if you are worried about not having the same plugins as others, having both would increase the likeliness seeing as Kirchhoff is also becoming more popular and is now apart of the plugin alliance bundle. Also would it not be likely that even if others have Q3, they may not have a number of other plugins in your list, which is the likely scenario for all.

[@fortheoneswhocare]

I honestly didn't expect to spend 45 min on a review of this EQ but I'm glad I did. Thanks for the (as usual) amazing work Dan!

[@nkozi]

Stunning review. I hope the people at TBTech takes notes! I made Kirchoff my first "professional EQ" purchase and haven't regretted it, but I certainly share your feedback on the behavior and organization of analog-modeled EQ curves.

[@niklassilen4313]

Hi Dan. You can actually configure Kirchoff to add HPF and LPF in the extensive menu. You can make it work almost exactly like pro-q does, even setting the ranges for the area where these are added.

[@DisconnectedAutomaton]

Lirst ✨️👽💜🔥👌💯 Always here to learn from these lovely elaborately well-explained plugin videos ! Keep it up !

[@deamhub]

Only Dan can make me watch a 46mins plus video without skipping,... U are legendary, thanks

[@PedroGerardo]

In preferences you can choose what is the default action for the double click on the left and right sides, doing shelf or high/low pass :D

[@redcraft31]

Thanks ! That's a point to consider indeed :)

[@ollieknight1221]

Yup, came here to say this. Mine is set so I can double click in different areas to get shelf or filter and get different shapes by dragging vs double clicking. The menu is as tweakable as the EQ. 😅

[@tommyottobisdee]

Also came here to say this too Lol!😂🤣

[@Harrysound]

Your spoiling us with your long form content. I’m also really interested in this plugin.

[@ismailerencetinkaya336]

i'll watch this till the end and return to ReEq

[@MrJC1]

ReEq is no slouch.

[@ebraheemrana]

This might just the most candid and honest disclaimer I've ever seen in my life lmao

[@AlayliDracula]

Expecting a Fuchhoff EQ from Fabfilter soon.

[@BleuNoirProductions]

i was expecting this plugin to be called the Knochoff

[@DanWorrall]

I nearly made that joke myself...

[@AlayliDracula]

@@DanWorrall I can imagine

[@slayabouts]

I get more excited than I should seeing a new Dan Worrall video up. I always wind up learning something useful with him just screwing around with plugins

[@oleksiysytnik]

Great review, as always. Watched until the end and sweat my ass off because I forgot to move - this is how curious I was and how I always watch Dan's videos.

[@mwintersteinsmith]

Love it (as always). And in particular, I love the "Would you like a "WOULD YOU LIKE TO WASTE YOUR RESOURCES BUTTON???"" Brilliant as always Dan Worrall 😎👍

[@jt-music-media]

Love your videos Dan you have really helped me transition into the world of audio from being mainly an instrumentalist.

[@tryingtotryistrying]

well I for one am glad you've been able to finally produce some audio from those instruments of yours! congrats! 😜

[@FishManBlues]

As always, LOVE your videos, Dan! Just to comment on EQs with continuously variable pass filter slopes, Waves Renaissance EQ features that. But at the moment, that’s all I’m aware of. Cheers!

[@keith_hudson]

The honesty in the title just makes it that much more reliable information.

[@DrayClay]

I’ve been waiting to hear your thoughts on this EQ compadres to Q3. 👍🏿👍🏿 Well done and thanks you.

[@zemonserious925]

congrats on approaching 96k - well deserved!

[@bakharandi]

Brilliant as Usual, Sir Dan ! I Love how Honest you were about Your Blatant Bias at the beginning, and the back story on Your Endearing Loyalty to Fab Filter ! As always, I learn a great deal from Your very thorough and insightful investigations. The Lasso multiple bands feature is new to me. I never knew of it's existence before this video. Another new feature in Kirchhoff is . . . changing the curve slopes with the mouse wheel by hovering over the node . . . Seriously amazing . . . I also Love how You Softened to the Kirchhoff, less than midway through the video . . . And by the end of the video, it even feels like You might be tempted towards acquiring Your own copy of the Kirchhoff EQ to scratch your tweakers itch and stimulate Your own Brilliant Curiosity even further. . . Which would be beneficial to all of us, because You are so inclined to dive deeper into realms that few tweakers have ever gone before and bring back some very unique perspectives and insights. Yet again, I Thank You and Salute You for sharing yet another Brilliant and Amazing video! (-;

[@bakharandi]

. . . Adendum . . . The 117 button and the 2x(Oversamplimg ) button, both feel useful to me . . . the sound . . . I hear the 2x as a "Thickening" to the sound . . . Sometimes I prefer it on, and other times, off. Yet the 117 button is only noticeable to me on certain sources . . . So, I find myself clicking it often now. I am happy when I do hear an improvement. Also, I do hear an audible difference (Improvement) in the High Frequencies over any other EQ that I have ever used, Including this Brilliant demo comparison with the Legendary Pro Q3.

[@derekmidgley]

Thank you for demystifying this. Love Fab. They're most honest in pricing and support, effortless to install and use thanks to the best interfaces. What more could one want.

[@ocularrecords]

I was waiting for you to rip him a new one. Keep up the great work, Dan.

[@adsm6464]

I almost bought Kirchoff based on all the nice things said about it and it was cheaper than Q3 at the time but the little DW inside my brain told me to stop until the null test was completed. I'm glad I have no choice but to listen. Solid review as always.

[@defenderstargate1447]

The 96K comment got you a subscriber. Well that and the fact you saved me some money. I have the FF Pro Q3 but was considering the other. The placebo affect is real. When you did the back and forth comparison, I admit I thought "What does he mean, they definitely sound different." So then I watched that section of the video again with my eyes closed and couldn't hear any difference. It was amazing how much different they were with my eyes open - the Kirchoff seemed to have a nicer and fuller sound, especially in the bass. Nope! Which is great as I love the FF Pro Q3 already.

[@laddieervin]

Another great video from one of the best. Thanks, Dan. I own both the Fab Filter and Kirchhoff EQs. I almost never use the Kirchhoff. Not because it's inferior - I'm not dedicated or good enough to reach either plugin's limitations - but because it doesn't give me anything more, or better, that than Pro-Q3 that I actually want or need. If I didn't already have Pro-Q3, Kirchhoff would be my go-to. As is, it's the second-string player warming the bench.

[@discobeatsrock8720]

To nullify your intentional bias, I’ll state how exceptional Kirshhoff EQ is. Just amazing!!!

[@meistudiony]

Excellent and comprehensive as always. Cheers!

[@mikemccormick1624]

It's 'just' an EQ yet I watched the entire video. Incredibly interesting and very well done!

[@MIHAO]

Cheers, Dan. Really looking forward to watching this

[@JTAITSINGER]

You mentioned in this video that you were approaching 96k subs, 9 months later you’re at 116k, wow! Great job! Congrats!

[@SteveGietz]

Thanks for this Dan! I would love to see you test the Lisa EQ from Plugin Alliance. Another dynamic EQ, but on steroids. We need you to dissect it 😊

[@jeff92k7]

Excellent video and I love the detail with which the Kirchoff was compared to the Fabfilter. I use the Kirchoff for the main reason that I got it on sale at PA, where the FabFilter is at least 3x the price, depending on the PA sale. The Kirchoff is my main surgical EQ now and I love the dynamics options in it. For flavor EQ, I use my SSL native plugins, where I mix by ear. Haven't had any reliability issues with the Kirchoff so far; and I use it on both Windows (Cubase) and Mac (LiveProfessor... yes, I run it live). Been trimming my plugin stable down to what is actually useful since I started dumping Waves after their licensing debacle. The Kirchoff is in my top 5 most used plugins and is on at least a handful of tracks in every project/show, having replaced my previous Waves F6/C6 plugins.

[@ezrashanti]

Excellent tool choices.

[@BTTRSWYT]

I'm a college student so I'm stuck with whatever I can get at a bare minimum price. Someday... someday.

[@iansmith3261]

welll the kirch is OUR choice for something real sweet and cheap...pro q is 169...kirch is a buck...fits my student budget...i just wanted to see if there was any "oh thats stupid, why would they do that" specs and from the lil I heard and @jeff92k7 personal review, im sold...key word was "surgical" i know the Q when I used the trial was absolutely awesome in that respect...and that alone sold me on it...but im hearing kirch is the same and can be slightly even more detailed in surgery. As im not that good yet, what my ears here, the better the tool for me to take it out, as opposed to be doin this for 50 yrs and being able to do it with PT stock EQ7@@BTTRSWYT

[@BTTRSWYT]

@@iansmith3261kirch looks solid to me. ATM I’m using waves f6 since I got it for 30 bucks. Kirch looks solid once I’m looking to spend more than that.

[@dspguy628]

The analog phase mode in Kirchhoff only works for bell and shelf filter types. If you use a low or high pass filter for example, the phase in analog mode is exactly the same as in minimum phase mode. The only difference is that it increases CPU usage. Surprisingly, there is no mention of this in the manual or on their website. On the other hand, Pro-Q's natural phase mode works for all filter types.

[@sssyntax]

I know i only said it the other day but I really dig your music. It's so cool and so interesting.

[@Donder1337]

I really like the way you bring the facts here!

[@st3hp3n]

regardless of bias, quality review as always and impressive eq plugin ! thx

[@dylanreed4146]

We love you Dan. You're a treasure!!

[@go-away-5555]

The dynamics demo you did with the snare actually made me interested in Kirchhoff. For the reasons you say, as a tool in the toolbox but not a staple. I do also work with stereo drum loops pretty often.

[@AironExTv]

Thanks for this detailed comparison. I've yet to find an application for the free filter mode in my line of work(dialogue mixing), though I'll probably find one in time. I'm pretty happy with Pro-Q3 for now. It's my most dependable workhorse plugin. The only DAW I could manage to crash with Pro-Q3 was Davinci Resolve v17 or v16(not tested in v18). Its automation was a bit flimsy with VST plugins when I was working it though, in December 2021/January2022. In Reaper Pro-Q3 has been nothing but dependable.

[@johnangelo4326]

Another excellent video! Thank you Dan! Also, and I swear this is true, my dog let out a little sound when you used the term "dog's breakfast". A term I will be stealing, btw. Cheers!

[@patovega]

Fantastic video!! I was considering getting a PA Mega L to be able to keep Kirchhoff, BX mastering desk pro and another one, after this video I might go for buying Q3 and maybe Saturn 3, thank you!!

[@sgfdancecompany]

Great review Dan!!!

[@redbigapplefloppa302]

I'm know perfection is an illusion and I usually don't like using this word. But your plugin reviews come pretty close to what I would consider perfect (for me and my likings of course). Subbed!

[@vadimmartynyuk]

Perfect timing. For last 2 days I was testing Kirchhoff EQ vs Pro-Q3 vs Steinberg Frequency 2. Frequency 2 has the best side chain and dynamic eq functionality but has outdated interface, and is limited to 8 bands.

[@BleuNoirProductions]

i feel like frequency2 is such a hidden gem. The only plugin I know of that supports multiple sidechain inputs. (please correct me if i’m wrong!) agree on the interface though.

[@Espresso101]

​@@BleuNoirProductionsin Cubase 12, all plugins that have side chain feature support multiple side chain inputs.

[@_allcap]

Owning both, for me it comes down to what i'm after. If I want a quick easy EQ, I always go ProQ. whether it be dynamics or static, nothing beats the workflow and intuitiveness of ProQ. It's my "stock" EQ and by far the most used eq on every project. If I want to tinker with different curves or really fine tune the dynamics I go Kirchhoff. If I could only choose one, it would be ProQ. Side note, I prefer the liner curves. This allows me to add my own favorite saturation pre/post. And I've had very few crashes in Kirch. I can't remember the last time ProQ crashed

[@themastroiannis]

totally agree. own both and fabfilter is a joy to use. kirchhoff is also more CPU demanding.

[@unterwasserbeatboxer]

GREAT! What an enlighting comparison!!!!

[@yungfeces1330]

i keep coming back to this video just because that track is so good

[@RiddimWook10]

Dan is back at it again to clear out the industry snake-oil bs. Great vid, Dan.

[@alderickzeke-walter3369]

The double click for the LPF and HPF can be set in between any frenquency in the preference menu in the up right corner.

[@BTTRSWYT]

welp i never knew I needed a review of an eq narrated be the planet earth guy but i have become enlightened

[@katabatica]

Dan's Content Quality:Subscriber Ratio is higher than just about any other channel.

[@CedricPytelRagtimeStudioUk]

Great insight as always. I didn't know you could use SSL or Maag EQ curves as defauft in Kirchhoff but that's a great tip. It's true that the dynamic section is confusing compare to ProQ3. I don't have ProQ3 though but I prefer using TDR Nova or Tonebooster EQ4 for dynamic than Kirchhoff

[@stefhambrook-bo1wn]

I was hoping the "sword" shape on Kirchhoff EQ would get a mention in your review, Dan. All the best and thank you

[@bakharandi]

Brilliant as usual Sir Dan Worrall ! You are one of my Favourite KZbinrs . . . ! . . . 🙂 (-; The Ever-Riveting Sherlock Holmes of Audio Engeneering ! (-;

[@jupiterman7]

Thanks for what you do sir!!!

[@mttlsa686]

The "mono widening" LR equalization is awesome because it makes a sound stereo while preserving perfectly mono compatibility!

[@bigguntmusic2159]

Ive used the Kirchhoff on literally every mix since I got it and love the flexibility of the eq and dynamics all in one.

[@hinky7729]

Very good - thank you Dan. I have the Kirchhoff and wondered, if I should also buy the ProQ.

[@PMKCStudio]

What a fantastic detailed video, again. #22.32 "Future Dan here jumping in with an edit". Made me laugh. Goes to show he thinks out of the box that is in a box. Questioning oneself is often the best way to get better at something. Thanks Dan. Great great video.

[@magneticmechanics9134]

Thank u for making this

[@davidharrison5873]

Slate Infinity EQ has continually variable slopes, as well as continually variable flatness of bell filters (which I find more useful).

[@SibzProductions]

Yes! While this feature hasn't necessarily made a difference for me, Slate did in fact implement it before Kirchhoff

[@gh0stransist0r]

do you need to subs to try it ?

[@SibzProductions]

@@TheJohnsofDoes Regardless, somebody implemented it before Kirchhoff

[@bakharandi]

So does the Kirchhoff ! I chose the Infinity EQ over the Pro Q3, and I Love the Infinity EQ ! Yet, Kirchhoff gobbles them both up for Lunch and Dinner., respectively. i have rarely used the Infinity EQ since, and I will never need the Pro Q3 (-;

[@bakharandi]

@David Harrison Yes, indeed. Yet the Range of the slopes and the shapes in the Kirchhoff EQ is Oceans Beyond . . . And I Love the Infinity EQ ! (-;

[@MaxCarola]

Thank you. You confirmed my first impression.

[@nikhilnarahari8424]

You did warn us ;) Thanks for a great review!

[@BuffaloL100]

I really appreciate Dan's 'no nonsense' approach, and avoids the magical mystification that tends to come with music gear related info. Now, if only I'd come across his videos 20 years earlier.

[@chamboyette853]

As a proud American, the problem I have with Dan Worall is that he doesn't speak English and has that stupid foreign accent. He should learn English before giving any advice. Oh, before someone starts calling me a racist, I support Ukraine.

[@jimkashner]

Excellent treatment of the most noteworthy topics, features, and characteristics regarding the Kirchhoff EQ, as well as the appropriately relevant comparisons to FF Pro-Q3, Dan. Yet again, no unpleasant surprises in the content of this video whatsoever. Until next time ...

[@AlexReidStudios]

Just starting the video, but you can change the behavior to be able to double click for a low pass and high pass filters on settings

[@RaunoPaananenAudio]

I really like the Kirchhoff-EQ. Nuendo 12 offers also great great EQ by name Frequency 2. There you can choose different sidechain input on every band (ex. all band can listen input different audio tracks) :). Good video again!

[@bakharandi]

Sir Dan ! This is so Utterly Brilliant ! As I am watching this for the third or fourth time, I am suddenly getting the very appreciative feeling that this experience is somewhat parallel to a Devout iPhone Aficionado, breaking down and sharing the latest innovations of the newest Samsung Galaxy, whilst the iPhone Faithful watch with bated breath, at how Samsung took a boat load of the iPhone's Brilliance and had the audacity cultivate some very interesting new innovations . . . The iPhone Faithful, are, of course, very excited in anticipation of how the iPhone will respond, with its next incarnation . . . And the Samsung Galaxy Enthusiasts, like me, are very excited to be active beneficiaries of this new plateau of innovation . . . Even More Exciting, in this case, is to have a Grand iPhone Afficionado. explain to us the Heritage of this technology, and the specialty of the innovations, whilst offering intriguing insights and perspectives that I hardly, if ever would have discovered on my own! . . . Iron Sharpens Iron , , , ! . . . 🙂 (-; Many Thanks ! (-;

[@gurumajuindonesia]

Holy show .. just finished my lesson with this video today! Thanks Dan .. this is a fruitful video. I'd stick with my trusty ProQ foreva

[@sub-jec-tiv]

Just added ‘dog’s breakfast’ to my vocabulary 😂

[@Am6-9]

13:15 Acon Digital Equalize has had continuously variable filter slopes for years. One of the few modern, “graphic” equalizers that isn’t “inspired” by ProQ… Fabfilter sure have set the GUI standard for those types of EQs.

[@KevinOchoa10]

Considering Dan has used Acon Digital's Acoustica before I'm indeed surprised he never noticed the variable filter slope on Equalize. Even more impressive, is the fact Equalize had a 120dB slope way before other commercially available filter's did!

[@DBrown_XD]

" I don't believe in magic... except in the music itself." Glorious....

[@fuzzypancake123]

While I don't disagree with your criticisms, I have to say it's very refreshing to see an EQ plugin that doesn't immediately fail because of cramping. I think we should commend them for getting this right as opposed to pretty much everyone else!! 😁

[@asmartelle]

Love you for your humour, Dan ;-)

[@IntheDAW]

you can actually set a range for high and low pass filters inside the menu. it's the same for the shelfs and bells. I find the options in the dynamic sections inside kirchoff and the extra shapes to make it very powerful. they also seem to have multiple algorithms for the filters they use inside the menu. I haven't tested them but supposedly they sound different.

[@KozmykJ]

Aaaww !! I hadn't finished watching this Epic, and now there's an addendum video ... 🤪

[@itsJadeCicada]

The dynamics section in kirchhoff is easily my fav part, amazing for transient shaping or being surgical with resonances

[@chaddonal4331]

Has someone made a good tutorial video on how to use these features well?

[@johnnyrenfield]

I've owned the Kirchhoff for about a year and use it in Logic, Pro tools, and Luna and even in rosetta, it has never crashed, but this is an excellent review. Also I own the Pro-Q 3 and love the aboslute differences between them. I honestly can say the Kirchhoff is very confusing but your video has helped me out immensely. 🤘💀🍻🔥🙏

[@johnnyrenfield]

Something the Kirchhoff needs is a simple RIAA curve preset but I'm just being lazy lol

[@bluematrix5001]

Perfect video Tittle, "Totally Biased Video" DW found so many excuses to don't like so much this plugin, so many extra features that maybe you can use in certain opportunities and are way better to have than not, but for me in the most straight fwd features this EQ is better than Fabfilter PRO Q3, even tho there are few features in Fabfilter that are not in Kirchhoff

[@thefakeguitarplayer4124]

Could the differences at the high frequencies in the null test might appear due to differences in the internal bit depth? I think they would appear if you’re working with Reaper set up at 64 bits since ProQ works with 32 bits.

[@diethylamid]

That "gear" icon in the right corner, can help with (behavior, gui and themes, bands defaults and favorites, sound...) "set it and forget it" defaults.

[@xnewerx]

UVI Shade has continuous filter slopes on some filter types up to 2000 db/o. But it's not really an EQ, it's more like a complex filter system like FabFilter Volcano

[@antoineportes.composer]

The Q value is only 0.7071..... - actually: 1/(2*cos(pi/4)) - for 2nd order filters. Fabfilter offers higher order filters, which is why they came out with the clever idea of normalising the Q to its Butterworth value and multiplying or dividing the Q value of one of the biquads in the chain by up to 40. Tree-Body-Tech. did the same for the same reason. Yes they stole the idea, but in a way they had to! I've never talked to anyone from those companies, I only know the Q Butterworth-normalisation thing by having reproduced it in JSFX with RBJ filters (call it reverse engineering if you will).

[@lussyl1642]

whats this Butterworth thing? and when did both plugins start using it? Thank

[@antoineportes.composer]

@@lussyl1642 Butterworth filters are a type of (theoretical, then analogue, then digital) IIR filters (LP, HP and all the usual derivative) with no ripple in either the pass- or the stop-band, no resonance and a gain of 1/sqrt(2) = ~ 0.7071... (or ~ -3.01 dB) at the cutoff frequency. Their slope gets steeper as their order grows; a very high-order Butterworth filters comes very close to what is referred to as an "ideal filter" (vertical slope; pass-band-gain=1; stop-band-gain=0) - Elliptic filters with negligible ripple and sufficient attenuation come closer faster but they're considerably heavier on both brain and CPU. For all the reasons above, Butterworth filters are considered the smoothest and most transparent filters. And because their digital implementation can be easily achieved with a very small impact on CPU usage, they've pretty much become regarded as the most basic (as in "basis", i.e. "starting point") filters by plugin developers and advanced users. I tried not to get too nerdy but if you want more, maybe start here: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Butterworth_filter off-topic: As I was writing the first paragraph, I realised that this mysterious dimension-less "Q" is just the gain at cutoff... (I checked in Desmos: www.desmos.com/calculator/q8jm8c5efb ) Which means that it could easily be expressed in dB: QdB=20*log(Q)/log(10); hence: Q=10^(QdB*.05); It would make so much more sense for the user that I wonder why it's not standard practice. It could still be easily normalised to its Butterworth value, for instance a 2nd-order filter would have Qnorm=(10^(QdB*.05))/sqrt(2); which gives 1/sqrt(2) when QdB=0 dB, and 1 (i.e. 0 dB) when QdB=20*log(sqrt(2))/log(10) = ~ 3.0103 dB. I'll admit that a bidirectional log taper on the Q knob makes it just as usable, but the numbers displayed hardly make sense to most people (and even if you're familiar with linear gain, I bet you'll find yourself spontaneously replacing the numbers by 6*n every 2^n step). The only reason I see not to deal with the Q as prescribed above is that if you see a resonance peak on a plot and a value in dB on a knob, you might mistake the value for the peak's maximum gain and misuse the knob or assume the code is faulty or broken. Maybe this is all obvious to everyone but me... if so sorry for the noise.

[@Phat-Monkey]

Quick High Pass / Low Pass can be enabled in options Mr Worrall @3:25

[@enzotreppa]

I’ve always known Beyerdynamic mic to be great. 2 things I would of like to see in the video is phase comparison (rating) and what signal chain was used to record. Pres/comp/eq. Has a lot to do with the sound. If the sound that good direct in the room they are well worth the $1k. Either way, I’d love to get these on my kit! The mounting hardware and small size of the capsule are killer features.

[@kailo1619]

It's about time boys

[@iainmcguire7190]

@danworrall - "I can't double click to the left or right, to add a high or low pass filter. I've tried all the usual keyboard modifiers, but I can't find a quick way to add a high pass filter" In the first page of settings, in the Behaviour tab, you can change the default behaviour for "Lower Freq Default Type" from the default of "Bell" to "High Pass" and it will work like you describe wanting it to work in the video. You can also set what frequency is the start/end point of the "Lower Freq" range. There's the equivalent setting for the "Higher Freq default type" on the same settings tab.

[@public_hell]

Thank you for saving me money and time. I'm fine with Toneboosters EQ v4, though. Nice and detailed video as always)

[@a.j.schuler6785]

You can set the default to create a high pass filter if you click under a certain range if you want. Check.