What a cool video. Never saw helpers being added before. I grew up in Tennessee where we didn't see a lot of helpers even on our big coal trains but out West with the mountains it's sure a lot different. The longest train I ever remember seeing was in Wyoming. A train full of tanker cars with a ton of locomotives, 4-4-4. It was not going very slow at all seemed to take an hour to pass. I was in heaven with all of those prime movers notched up, screaming, pushing that train. Thank you for the video! Edit: I assume this is a short trip over the hump and they'll pull them off again?
@jamesedwards98576 ай бұрын
That sounds like it was a very cool train to watch! Yes, they use the helper locomotives until they reach an area known as Soldier Sumit, and then remove them there, and the helpers return back to Helper. The ruling grade on Soldier Sumit is around 2-2.5%.
@trcmarvinmg6 ай бұрын
That's the coal train we operate to unload at Trona CA. Great catch.
@jamesedwards98576 ай бұрын
Thanks for the information. I never knew where they take it to. Thanks for the comment!
@slashmacleod6 ай бұрын
4 Mid-train helpers is a ton of power, but then Soldier summit is a heck of a hill *(for mainline ops). AFAIK Helper is one of the few places where trains still add manned power. Been that way since D&RGW built the line in the 1880s. (They actually had a town at Soldier Summit for a while before building what became Thistle)
@jamesedwards98576 ай бұрын
Soldier Sumit has a ruling grade of 2-2.5% indeed. The process of getting coal over it hasn't changed much since then. Other than the technology, such diesel over steam and EOTD's/FRED's instead of caboose's.
@markthomas64365 ай бұрын
. Westbound grade is 2.4%.
@DwayneDavis36 ай бұрын
Absolutely awesome...it's one thing to watch video's of trains passing with dpu's scattered about but this is the first time I've seen them actually being added! This was quite the catch!
@jamesedwards98576 ай бұрын
I'm glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for the comment!
@tnine36 ай бұрын
Im in and out of the BNSF yard down here in here Commerce, CA. Always cool watching them take off and the unloading/loading process of trailers. Nice video!
@jamesedwards98576 ай бұрын
That's really cool! Thanks for the comment!
@terrycollins7546 ай бұрын
That was a great video !!! I enjoyed it. Thank you so much
@jamesedwards98576 ай бұрын
Your welcome! I'm glad you enjoyed it!
@rolpfeiffer40116 ай бұрын
Thanks airing and sharing the outstanding video with magnificent locomotives. Railfanning endeavors are prominent. Bliss
@jamesedwards98576 ай бұрын
You're welcome. Thank you for your comment!
@rickmiller14296 ай бұрын
And that is why this town is named Helper.
@jamesedwards98576 ай бұрын
Yes indeed!
@sernajrlouis6 ай бұрын
Cool video and channel just subscribed
@jamesedwards98576 ай бұрын
Thank you! For the comment and subscribe!
@GY513606 ай бұрын
Nice video. I enjoyed that
@jamesedwards98576 ай бұрын
I'm glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for the comment!
@joestrainworldvideos39775 ай бұрын
Magnificent job. Great capture. Greetings Joe 😊
@jamesedwards98575 ай бұрын
Many thanks! I subscribed to you also!
@Chainsaw6006 ай бұрын
We saw mid helpers all the time on BNSF when trains passed through Texas Panhandle coming from the coal mines up north. We are now in Arkansas and see only front and rear loco’s on the UP coal trains headed south from Kansas City.
@GEVOlutionCPKC6 ай бұрын
Another breaking It friend amazing video 👍🏽
@jamesedwards98576 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@EntertainmentWorldz5 ай бұрын
Wow! Great video
@jamesedwards98575 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@TaylorRodCarter6 ай бұрын
Epic video I love trains
@jamesedwards98576 ай бұрын
Thank you for your comment!
@franzbrunner4996 ай бұрын
on June 20, 2021, I was in Helper -the maneuver you showed us in this video was already completed -but I remember the roaring sound of the helper locos when the train started moving -if you are in Helper, I recommend visiting the Western Mining and Railroad Museum, very very interesting
@jamesedwards98576 ай бұрын
I have been to that museum in Helper! It's a great way to learn some history of the area!
@carl46846 ай бұрын
Front middle & push for a hilly good trip ! Physics is always involved ! Kool
@jamesedwards98576 ай бұрын
Yep. Thanks for your comment!
@backalleyrailroading28357 ай бұрын
Sweet upload of the whole show !!!
@jamesedwards98577 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@espeescotty6 ай бұрын
Weeell...looky who it is! I was actually thinking about you when I was watching this one, Richard. It reminded me of your vids, only with big road power and many more cars. After seeing this, now I want to go back to Helper again!!! 🤠🤙
@backalleyrailroading28356 ай бұрын
@@espeescotty Thanks Scotty. Appreciate that !!
@espeescotty6 ай бұрын
@@backalleyrailroading2835 For sure! I was just glad you were here just when I was thinking you might like this one.
@SIERRASGRANDES4 ай бұрын
MUY BUENO FUI CONDUCTOR DE JOVENCITO TRENES PASAJEROS EN LOS 80 90 EN ARGENTINA MUY BUENAS LOCOMOTORAS
@jamesedwards98574 ай бұрын
Thank you! That's very cool that you were a driver!
@TimD19526 ай бұрын
Cool, as a CPKC retiree from Canada, this is what I loved to do.
@jamesedwards98576 ай бұрын
Right on! I didn't know that they did that!
@mccoy79productions666 ай бұрын
Aweseome!
@jamesedwards98576 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@demil36185 ай бұрын
👍👍👍
@jamesedwards98575 ай бұрын
👍
@esterribeirotrens.84566 ай бұрын
Boa noite amigo! Inscrita no Canal! Muito obrigada por compartilhar! Saudações do Brasil 🇧🇷 com grande like!😊
@jamesedwards98576 ай бұрын
Bom dia/boa noite para você! Obrigado pela inscrição! E saudações de Utah! (Espero que o Google Tradutor funcione bem haha)
@alexandrelacerda756 ай бұрын
@@jamesedwards9857Google translator did well. I’m originally from state of Minas Gerais living in Miami. Great video. Big fan of GE sounds. Hope one day visit Utah.
@daleshipman71396 ай бұрын
Excellent video. I also just subscribed to your channel.
@jamesedwards98576 ай бұрын
Thanks for the comment and for the sub!
@UnionPacificACe_AHProductions6 ай бұрын
Awesome sight
@jamesedwards98576 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@UnionPacificACe_AHProductions6 ай бұрын
@@jamesedwards9857 you're welcome
@popsflying6 ай бұрын
cool..... sub`d
@jamesedwards98576 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for the sub!
@tigertiger16996 ай бұрын
🙏🙏🙏 beautiful
@jamesedwards98576 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@tigertiger16996 ай бұрын
@@jamesedwards9857 Mate.., here in NZ🇳🇿.., they used to be called “Bankers”…., they would help the train up the bank… As a young fireman.., our Dad RIP.., drove the Ja, K & Ka steamers.., then later years the Diesels.. including the GE U26C in the “banker” role…, up the Raurimu Spiral.. 1:33 grade… As a youngster… absolutely loved the cab rides on “my” locomotives 😂👍
@urbanjansson86326 ай бұрын
In Sweden the iron ore trains are impressive, but this train is certainly a heck of an other dimension! But how are all these locos controlled?
@jamesedwards98576 ай бұрын
The front locomotives have the main engineer(driver) and conductor. The middle helper set also has an engineer and conductor, and the rear locomotive is remote controlled, aka DPU from the lead locomotives.
@bennetts-revenge_26 ай бұрын
@jamesedwards9857 wow you answered a question I was going to ask. Thanks
@carl46844 ай бұрын
The humans are counted on for constant support of the horsepower necessary ? Pulling or speed control
@jasoncutlip950Ай бұрын
@@carl4684to be fair, you are mostly in notch 8 about 80% of the time, you don't do a whole lot until the train slows down for the summit.
@leoe83046 ай бұрын
Thanks for the video. However, it would be nice to know where you have taken those pictures? What kind of train/engines it is, etc.
@jamesedwards98576 ай бұрын
Your welcome! This was filmed at the Amtrak station/UP yard office in Helper Utah. However, I'm not entirely certain on the exact models of each of those locomotives, other than the fact that they are all manufactured by GE/Wabtec. You can look up the locomotive numbers, and you should be able to find out the exact details of each of them.
@DaveBeard246 ай бұрын
Looks like helper, utah
@jamesedwards98576 ай бұрын
Yes it is!
@DaveBeard246 ай бұрын
@@jamesedwards9857 I live in Utah been up there few times in my life god place for some train action
@oubrioko6 ай бұрын
swing helpers
@jamesedwards98576 ай бұрын
Yep
@hmolenaar72335 ай бұрын
helpers at helper (ut)
@jamesedwards98575 ай бұрын
Yes!
@williamedwards15286 ай бұрын
So, is the last engine controlled by the helpers or by the lead engine? I assume the helpers are independently controlled?
@jeromyt68736 ай бұрын
Helpers are manned units and distributed power units (DPU's) are unmanned, remote controled. Things like this usually just help them over the hump and then go back to town and then repeat. Kinda like a tug boat for trains. They help them out of the harbor
@jamesedwards98576 ай бұрын
Yes, the mid train helpers are manned, so they can be returned back to Helper. The locomotive on the rear is a DPU controlled by the front locomotives.
@vernacular14836 ай бұрын
Sounds like a seniority job
@jamesedwards98576 ай бұрын
@@vernacular1483 Yes indeed It takes a skilled crew to do that job right.
@jasoncutlip950Ай бұрын
Surprisingly, the seniority is fairly low, as there are only so many senior guys who want to live in Helper.
@KapitanPisoar16 ай бұрын
Bad joint :D
@jamesedwards98576 ай бұрын
Indeed
@ironhorsethrottlemaster52026 ай бұрын
Awesome catch of a Coltrane in helper Utah do you live in helper are you a local r a i l fan if you are I live in Castle Dale I am also a fellow r a i l fan and railroad artist do you want to talk trains one day shoot me a comment peace out man have a great day
@jamesedwards98576 ай бұрын
That's cool! I didn't think anyone in Castle Dale liked trains lol!
@ironhorsethrottlemaster52026 ай бұрын
@@jamesedwards9857 I was raised in the Salt Lake Valley so I'm not from Castle Dale I just ended up moving here
@jamesedwards98576 ай бұрын
@ironhorsethrottlemaster5202 Cool, Price is my hometown and current town I live in.
@konanpine74136 ай бұрын
What town is that
@gbdave6 ай бұрын
Looks like Helper, Ut
@jamesedwards98576 ай бұрын
It is called Helper Utah. Here's the Wikipedia link: en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helper,_Utah
@MrHunt9166 ай бұрын
Helpers being added in Helper. Nice play on
@jamesedwards98576 ай бұрын
@@MrHunt916 thank you!
@bigwheelsturning6 ай бұрын
A lot of Carbon there to turn into CO2. I can feel the heat now.
@GPz846 ай бұрын
Headed to your local power plant so that people can charge their Teslas.
@jamesedwards98576 ай бұрын
That's a lot of heat 🥵.
@jasoncutlip950Ай бұрын
How else would you power your phone to complain about coal?
@bigwheelsturningАй бұрын
@@jasoncutlip950 With my solar charger that I use now.
@jasoncutlip950Ай бұрын
@@bigwheelsturning huh, where did the electricity come from to manufacture that solar charger?