A (very) brief guide to the political parties of Germany

[@tbk2010]

He made all of them seem more reasonable/consistent than I think they are.

[@DasRoor]

As a german I agree. He is fundamentally right with all of them, but he obviously doesn't mention any scandals associated with those parties.

[@Lorian667]

@@DasRoor Corruption.... Spahn and Scheuer with their apparent bet who can burn the most tax money.... green politicians being so unprepared in interviews that they step back... I dont even know who to vote besides small parties, because I dont trust any of the big ones .

[@grmasdfII]

@@Lorian667 For me, the choice is pretty easy - there is only one party that isn't neoliberal that is probably going to make it past 5% - Die Linke. I'd probably think differently if they had a chance of getting a majority, but there's no chance of that, so...voting opposition it is ;p

[@niismo.]

You can basicslly sum it up by saying "And they're all cunts in their own ways so fuck all"

[@randomidiot4735]

yes like he made the cdu look like an actuall optinon how insane is that

[@peterpan4038]

"Die PARTEI" is indeed satire, but excels at one task: opposition work. The moment they speak up, you just know another party has messed up. edit: Name of the one and only PARTEI edited (i messed up before).

[@Hendricus56]

Yep, that is the job of the opposition. Showing how the government messed up

[@albussr1589]

But they also make other laugh a bit because they pretend to not take themself and others to serious

[@dailyicetea3829]

@@albussr1589 how did Martin Sonneborn put it? "If politics make satire, satire has to make politics." Or something like that

[@Baumbart]

*Die PARTEI Its an own name. ;)

[@peterpan4038]

@@Baumbart Oh, you are of course totally right *late edit incoming".

[@sonkeschluter3654]

Missed opportunity to mention the Wahl-o-mat

[@Leofwine]

It might come up once it's actually on-line.

[@helloweener2007]

Wahl-o-mat is shit. According to him I should have voted a right wing party in our last state election in May. Reason: A few more things that are more important for the established parties like gender-nonsens I crossed indiffrent opinion. Some like speed limit in cities and not building new highways they have opossite opinions and how Corna os handeled. An you end up with more consensus for right wing parties in the wahl-o-mat. And I always voted left or liberal parties all my life. And I did also in this one. Without looking how the result was reached the Wahl-o-mat is pretty worthless and more dangerous because it could people lead to vote for the "wrong" party.

[@imrehundertwasser7094]

The Wahl-o-mat looks at what parties _claim_ to want and stand for. Life experience tells me that that is mostly lies and fantasies and has very little to do with what the parties _actually_ do and stand for. So basing a voting decision on the Wahl-o-mat is good only for people who want to be betrayed. The rest better look at the actual conduct and performance of parties, not at their claims in their party platforms. That's something _you_ as the voter have to do, there's no Wahl-o-mat shortcut here.

[@KaiHenningsen]

@@imrehundertwasser7094 I don't know - for me, it's always been _very_ close (if not exactly) what I already was inclined to vote, and I haven't field seriously betrayed so far.

[@AlexanderGoeres]

@@helloweener2007 _According to him I should have voted a_ ... the wahl-o-mat is not there to tell you what you should vote for. it is there to compare the parties official statements with you personal preferences. execpt of the parties themselves no one here in germany is telling you for whom you should cast your vote ..,,.

[@Weissenschenkel]

I don't remember who said this but here it goes: If you are in a democracy you can ask for a fascist regime to be placed in. if you are in a fascist regime you can't ask for democracy to replace it.

[@thulyblu5486]

I mean you can always ask, but in fascism the answer is always "No, shut up and do what you're told"

[@schumifannreins295]

@@thulyblu5486 Or much worse...

[@memberberry5898]

Well, in Germany any kind of advocacy for National Socialism is banned, and in Italy advocacy for Fascism is banned, and similar restrictions exist in Japan. Holocaust denial is illegal in dozens of European countries. Hate speech and 'racism' laws exist in Britain and France. Hate crime laws exist in the United States. And you can be demonized, ostracized, fired, and 'cancelled' for supporting fascism. People are fooled by the veneer of liberal democracy. Under fascism, at least you are not told lies about who is in charge and what they believe. Under fascism, at least the government is working for you, even if you can't replace it.

[@gutholz4443]

@@memberberry5898 How can hate be a crime? Hate is an emotion, that usually has a reason. So it is like they try to ban love.

[@AndDiracisHisProphet]

@@gutholz4443 Memberberry didn't say that hate itself is a crime, but that there are hatecrimes. crimes done where the motive is hate

[@evest7829]

I think many people who vote for Die PARTEI do not only do so because of the satire but also because of their transparency. They are often one of the first parties that publically summarize what happens in the Bundestag and in the EU, and their satire helps making these topics go "viral", thus spreading information to people who usually don't care about politics at all. You're right in saying that they are more left-leaning.

[@D4l4m4r]

I would like to point out that the PDS was the successor of the SED (even being named SED-PDS at some time). The "Die Linke" was formed by the fusion of the PDS with the WASG (which was essentially the left wing of the SPD). So, basicly, the "Die Linke", although legally still the successor of the SED, is a bit more than just the sad remnants of the former governing party of the GDR.

[@pocketdynamo5787]

Yeah... In the eastern states, it's bascially SED 2.0, whereas in the west, it's a bit more compilcated. It's a mixture of former SPD left-wingers, left-wing-populists and a few obscure communists that never really had a shot at parliamentary seats before reunification.

[@D4l4m4r]

​@@pocketdynamo5787 - No, thats actually completely bullshit. One of the main reasons for the fall of the Berlin wall in 1989 was the fact that at this time a splinter faction, the reformers, within the SED was gaining influence. Those were basicly people who understood that the Stalinism of the SED can not work and that new ways would have to be found. The SED/PDS that formed directly after the fall of the wall was firmly in the hands of the reformers and they officially renounced the Stalinism and the ways of the old SED. They still wanted to reach a kind of socialism but by democratic means - thats why they called the party "PDS", party of democratic socialism. So, even in eastern Germany, especially today 30 years after the reunification, the Linke in eastern Germany is, of course, far from being a SED 2.0. The PDS in Western Germany was indeed a bit more problematic, when they started out, because they had indeed a high number of former hardcore communists and a lot of weird ideas in their ranks. That however improved a lot when the WASG joined the PDS to form the Linke. Today, some hardcore communist remain, but not in positions of power, while the vast majority of the popliticions of the Linke are firmly rooted in their Union backgrounds and democracy.

[@FortuneZer0]

@@D4l4m4r "I swear its not socialism, its social democratic."

[@RhodianColossus]

@@FortuneZer0 How far removed from reality are you to be thinking that? What are you, a Yank?

[@RagingGoblin]

@@D4l4m4r Be that as it may, neither the Linke nor the PDS have ever publically distanced themselves from the crimes of the GDR. Or let's talk about the billions we all know the SED had but who seem to have been lost on the way. People like Gysi, who had high party functions before the fall of the GDR, *have* to know something about it. It's nothing less than treason to their own people that they hoarded these riches in the first place (which we know as historical fact). That they refuse to hand them over makes it even worse.

[@BizarreWords]

"I'd never vote for a party that would have me as a member" Honestly, Same... maybe?

[@AlexanderGoeres]

that quote is stolen from groucho marx i think, and modified ...

[@danroro1722]

@@AlexanderGoeres 👍The amusing quote is often attributed to Graucho Marks. This does not necessarily mean however, that Graucho Marks had not himself quoted somebody else, or simply repeated some common joke heard somewhere else. Anybody knows?

[@waynelassiter2290]

This makes him ideal for Die PARTEI

[@ghomeishy]

This was excellent. I was always weirded out by Partei and was wondering if there's something wrong with me that I dont understand where they stand. Thanks for clarifying with the statement "I'd never vote for a party that would have me as a member". I really laughed out loud

[@fubini_yt]

I think for "Die Partei", the idea that Martin Sonneborn originally had was rather independent of political directions. However, the party moved more and more towards the left.

[@rtwfreak2012]

Though Sonneborn is also quite the lefty. Nowadays it is just Greens and Teens who pretend to be edgy

[@fubini_yt]

@@rtwfreak2012 Yes, you are very right in my opinion.

[@puschelhornchen9484]

When I met Martin Sonneborn and the members of the "Partei" in Berlin for their "March on the Brandenburg Gate" backnin 2005 it was mostly middle aged men in their 40 to 50s who donned the "ill fitting cheap grey polyester buisness suit". It looked like they hoped that the "funniness" of the satire magazine "Titanic" would be attributed to them by joining the "Partei".

[@AlexanderGoeres]

there is no satiric project anywhere that is not left of the center ...

[@rtwfreak2012]

. the babylon Bee and Titania McGrath come to mind.

[@russellg5022]

It'll be my first one too! I'll probably do the wahl-o-mat and then decide.

[@magicalruin]

Please don't vote CDU/CSU. And Please not AfD. Everything apart from that is fine.

[@davidroddini1512]

Uh, wall-o-mat? Sounds like a non native English speaker trying to say Walmart

[@maxmusterman9262]

Nah Just Vote afd

[@mix3k818]

In 2 years, Poland will have their own elections (assuming the current government's recent split doesn't force PiS to make snap elections). It'll be a toss-up between the pro-EU parties (PL2050, KO/PO, Lewica) and the heavy right-wing (ZP/PiS, Konfederacja

[@ThePixel1983]

They'll have to choose if they want their EU money cut by electing PIS, and in that case they can PIS off. ;)

[@mix3k818]

ThePixel1983 And we'll see if the eastern half of the country will screw over the other half.

[@Konyad]

PIS is as center-left party, I don't know how you came with the idea that it's a right-wing

[@mix3k818]

Konyad Maybe on economic matters. On every other stance though, they are definitely right-wing.

[@Konyad]

@@mix3k818 check politic map of polish parties. Socialism is a lift-wing trait

[@Hand-in-Shot_Productions]

I just watched this again, and I found it quite a good summary of the German parties! Thanks for the video!

[@beageler]

Well, with that mindset you seem to be a good fit for Die Partei. Jokes aside, I love how Die Partei is a satire party through and through. But elected members quite often do real politics, supporting and sometimes even introducing sensible reforms, along with their shenanigans (which tend to be most often against the right spectrum). As for Green Party and SPD... It will be a long time until I'll forgive the Schröder era. Not that either party really seems to be making an effort to move back to the left.

[@Wolfsgeist]

Yeah, that's hard to forgive... however, I think the SPD is a good way, with figures like Hubertus Heil and Kevin Kühnert going more towards the left and worker's rights and stuff, while the Jusos, so the younger generation, are also more left overall.

[@f_f_f_8142]

@@Wolfsgeist but then they nominated Scholz

[@xCorvus7x]

Forgive? There's only a lesson to learn, and not a new one.

[@theexchipmunk]

WE like to think of us as "The party of common sense."

[@unconventionalideas5683]

@@f_f_f_8142 That's probably because they thought he was more electable...

[@ElchiKing]

I think your placement of Die PARTEI is quite spot on. At least, as far as we can tell from Wahl-O-Mat question (I run the parties' answers against each other looking for most similar parties and it always clusters them with Left and Green (and some smaller parties))

[@Gerbert66]

its a satiric nonsensparty. Thje answers what they give to the wahlomast are same. Satiric sarcastic nonsens.

[@ElchiKing]

@@Gerbert66 Well, if it is, it simulates left-wing positions quite well (also consistently, so I don't think it is random)

[@Gerbert66]

@@ElchiKing well, the "Partei" had two members in the european parlament. And one of them have leave the party and go to the greens about Mr. Sonneborn, the otherone and chef of the Partei had some real rightwingcomments. But more importent, what sence have it to give the vote to a nonsensparty who have no interest on siriosly politic?

[@vetrixfx9264]

@@Gerbert66 I think Die Partei is not a party for the government, but a really good oppositional party. They know how to expose infringements etc. I think it's shitty of Semsrott that he left the party because of a satirical take on Trump and it's relation to China and (intentionally) misunderstood it as an attack on Asian people. Maybe he left for good

[@riptidemonzarc3103]

Well, with that parting joke, you might want to start the Groucho Marxist Party

[@ThePixel1983]

Everybody's favorite communist store, Marx & Spencer.

[@NicolaW72]

:-)

[@xCorvus7x]

I do believe the PARTEI is about as left as the Green Party (rather further, actually, but the Greens seem quite inconsistent when you compare local work to what they do on the federal level).

[@javi8714]

And they differ also quite much from region to region

[@felicious6384]

In my state the "Partei" only consists out of rude behaving drunkards, who think that they are edgy and cool.

[@xCorvus7x]

@@felicious6384 Which state would that be?

[@felicious6384]

@@xCorvus7x Schleswig-Holstein. The competent edgy guys rather joined the pirate party back in the days.

[@xCorvus7x]

@@felicious6384 Pirate party? That doesn't sound like competence. And not particularly edgy either, tbh. However, it's a bit odd how much the local level can differ from the federal.

[@El_Paauwe]

Do you already know which party will you vote? I'm not asking you to actually say it as I understand it's personal and it may bring some unnecessary comments from people thinking different, just to know if so many years in Germany helped you to identify with a party or not.

[@Lorian667]

Congratulations for your voting rights!

[@theexchipmunk]

We from Die Partei ask EVERYBODY to join. Even other party members of other partys. On a more serious note, let me break down real quick what die Partei is on the Political spectrum. Its pretty centre left. Overall we are of the opinion that not a lot must change, but that there definitely are some things. Most of all, tighter controls of politicians and the economy against foul play, a relaxing of the ban on Mariuana because thats doing nothing but waste taxes and criminalise well adjusted members of society, also general decriminalisation of users of hard drugs and treating them as suffering from a psychological disorder that needs too be treated. Then less money to failing large scale cooperations that have no chance of really coming back, and much more money for public institutions like schools. Strengthening of public transport and a lot of climate concerned points like renewable energy, an end to subventions of coal (without them that industry would stop being profitable and force renewables to take over) a stop to a lot of other questionable institutions in that part of the economy. (singly use items and so on) And obviously equality to all people, same rights to homosexuals everywhere for example. There is more but thats a rough overview. They way we portray the stuff is definitely crass, but we like to think of it as holding a mirror to societys face.

[@GunRunner106]

pirates are somewhere in there too... pirates be like uuh... net stuff or smths....

[@mergele1000]

They had a surge a few years back but then managed to deconstruct themselves. I actually have no idea what their status is currently. Honestly would have been nice to have even just a small presence of them because it would force the others to not be complete idiots when it comes to internet and digitalisation.

[@bertjafn]

They have a single seat in the EU Parliament (+ 4 Czech pirates), but none in the Bundestag.

[@eisikater1584]

Great stuff as always, Andrew! I'm still undecided whom to vote for (and if I would I wouldn't tell), but I'm glad you mentioned die PARTEI. I'm quite sure I'll vote for some Partei because I never skipped a German federal or EU parliament election since I was allowed to vote. Do "die Grauen", the Greys, still exist? A minority party which are for the elderly? When I look into my mirror, I think I can start voting for them.

[@Hand-in-Shot_Productions]

Apparently, yes, there are! From 1989 until 2008, there was a small political party called _Die_ _Grauen_ _-_ _Graue_ _Panther_ (meaning "The Greys - The Grey Panthers"), also known as GRAUE. That party apparently dissolved itself in 2008, but there is now a similar party called _Die_ _Grauen_ _-_ _Für_ _alle_ _Generationen_ ("The Greys - For all Generations", also known as Die Grauen for short), whose leader is Michael Schulz. I am not sure if Schultz is running for Federal Chancellor (I don't speak much German), but if he is, there's a candidate to vote for! Thanks for asking, and therefore, sending me to learn more German politics! For more information about the original GRAUE: de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Die_Grauen_%E2%80%93_Graue_Panther For more information about the current _Die_ _Graue:_ de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Die_Grauen_%E2%80%93_F%C3%BCr_alle_Generationen For the federal party website: diegrauen-partei.de/

[@imrehundertwasser7094]

They were dissolved in 2008. Some tiny successor parties exist.

[@eisikater1584]

@@imrehundertwasser7094 Thanks.

[@vetrixfx9264]

Just vote for the Partei, they seem to be a good oppositional party (if they have any chance on getting in the Bundestag)

[@HerrMeier007]

I think it can be sometimes confusing to rank parties from left to right. Because that’s mostly just suggesting which market the parties are supporting. Furthermore it’s also very important to rank them from liberal to conservative. It can be a little confusing because in America for example conservatives are mostly right wing and liberals are left wing. The FDP for example tho is one of the most liberal parties in Germany even tho it’s the one focused most on the free market, so arguably the most “right wing” if we’re considering right to left as a spectrum from total capitalism to complete Sozialism. Just as a side note tho. Because this video seemed very focused only which market the parties support, even tho if they’re liberal or conservative and what kinda ways and what their main interests are (greens climate change for example) would have been amazing

[@NajwaLaylah]

No wonder that German KZbinr I know keeps saying "Party Hard!". It would be a challenge to be familiar with all these. Good luck with your vote and may the best win.

[@Gerbert66]

in germany never win one party. Always their is a coalition. So all partys have to make som compromises and can not be radical. Only the facist party AfD is out of that. No one will ever coalicwe with them. And, shure CDU/CSU will win as first and get the chancler but with Green Party or maybe the liberals FDP.

[@fie1329]

@@Gerbert66 Not so sure about that as it stands today. Laschet may screw it up. Not the first thing he would screw up :D

[@maxmusterman9262]

Alles was du nicht magst sind also faschisten😂

[@fie1329]

@@maxmusterman9262 Alles was faschistisch ist mag ich nicht, so rum ist es richtig. Und die AFD ist faschistisch, also mag ich sie nicht. Es gibt auch noch andere Gründe die AFD nicht zu mögen, zum Beispiel, weil sie rassistisch, rückschrittlich und nationalistische ist, um nur drei weitere davon zu nennen. Ein Hauptgrund ist aber sicher die konsequente Dummheit, die sich durch deren Wahlprogramm zieht. Ich meine, komm schon. Wie kann ein denkender Mensch es gutheißen, wenn Deutschland die Eurozone verlässt? Wann wurde das verfasst, am 1. April? Leider nicht.

[@drjihad86]

This is the very first time to vote for me too and although I am more familiar with the German political system than average bystander, it was a very good summary for a anxious first time fresh citizen voter lime me. A very nice video.

[@beageler]

Check out the Wahl-o-mat. It's not as good as in the beginning anymore, when the goal to show how the parties actions match ones views was more than payd lip service, but it's still better than voting by feeling, even informed feeling.

[@Gerbert66]

there is one more party who have a chance to get in the german parlament. Freie Wähler, a original Bavarian party whit a long time standing in gouvermants of many bavarian villages. Similar to the FDP but not so liberal. A party for the smaller businesspeople and farmers.

[@ballermancolumbia]

also antivaxxers

[@wolfgangthiele9147]

In order to fully understand political parties in Germany, you have to look at their history. During the Weimar Republic, the Catholic Zentrumspartei (aka “Zentrum”, literally: center party) was one of 3 parties that unambiguously supported the democratic system. The Christian Democratic Union (CDU) was an attempt to pick up this tradition. However, a distinctly Catholic party wasn't really appealing to non-Catholics at the time. The CDU was indeed, initially, somewhat left wing on social issues. The infamous 1947 “Ahlener Programm” (Ahlen platform, Ahlen is a town in North Rhine-Westphalia) called for the nationalization of coal and steel industries. But this changed quickly, after that, the CDU was mostly pro business and socially conservative, especially during the 1950s when the more right wing parties that were founded after 1945 (BHE, DP) folded and their followers joined the CDU. However, the CDU always maintained a fairly significant social faction, the “Sozialausschüsse” (literally: social committees), but these were mainly religious, socially conservative blue collar and lower middle class who desired fair wages, fair labor laws and a welfare state, yet resented left-wing rhetoric. Angela Merkel succeeded in shifting the CDU to the center (or to the left, depending on how you look at it). However, the average CDU member, especially in rural areas, is way more conservative than the party leadership. AfD voters are mostly (but not exclusively) former CDU supporters who couldn't take it any longer. The FDP is the most interesting party of them all. While the FDP is usually described as pro-business and socially liberal, it really covered the whole spectrum in it's history, from full blown neo-Nazis (the “Naumann-Kreis” in the 1950s) to loony left (the youth organization of the FDP in the 1970s). “Die Partei” is literally a joke, the LKR is totally insignificant, most voters have never heard of them.

[@Thror251]

The Zentrumspartei supported the Nazis in the vote vor the Enabling act. I don't know how you can say that they "unambiguously" supported the democratic system. Only the SPD and KPD voted against (most KPD members were imprisoned already.)

[@OrechTV]

2:12 ... in US they call it Libertarian parties like this one right? Less involvment in general from the government, both market and social life . I see them that way

[@Lankpants]

Across the rest of the world it's just called liberalism.

[@OrechTV]

@@Lankpants Yeah it is the same in my country, liberals means this

[@SilberWolf242]

The fun really starts when you base your decision on who represents your ideals the most but also the cdu are willing to work with them. Or you so leftist (=any amount) that that is not possible so you just vote what you want and hope for the best.

[@richardlbn1]

Nice work.

[@gregor-samsa]

The green can be three steps more on the right side as it is in Baden-Württemberg.

[@AlexanderGoeres]

it's nice that you even add die partei in your list. ... :-)

[@Ribulose15diphosphat]

The green Party was never Marxist. Look up, who passed the first Animal rights law in Germany (Tipp: He was from Austria). A lot of his follower foundet the green Party in the 70s.

[@toranshaw4029]

There's also a new political party in Germany called Mera25, which is part of the wider DiEM25 movement.

[@moenchii]

In my opinion the PARTEI is a little bit more left than the Greens, but that really is debateable. Anyways: "Wählt die PARTEI, denn sie ist sehr gut!"

[@attenberg]

No.

[@moenchii]

@@attenberg Alright

[@moenchii]

@Sen Se It's not at all anarchist though. Sure there might be some members who are Anarchists, but that's not the Party line.

[@Antanana_Rivo]

Would have liked a sentence or two about Lafontain and Co. splitting of from the SPD in the early 90s before forming Die Linke together with the PDS. Other than that great Video 😊

[@klaus-udokloppstedt6257]

and that the Green Party also is a merger with the east german rooted 'Bündnis 90' citizens movement and explains (IMHO) the mentioned fact, that they are not the original only-environmental-focused party anymore.

[@Yamabanana]

That split wasn't in the early nineties. Lafontaine was SPD-Chairman until 1999. The Split occured in the early 2000s when Left-Wing SPD Members formed the WASG, which later merged with the PDS to form Die Linke.

[@79iGEL]

I don't think it's relevant today anymore, same with Green/Bündnis 90 merger. If expanded, the video should talk more about actual politics.

[@prnzssLuna]

This was enough for me to know that I'll probably pass on voting this year again. Don't really have anyone who represents my ideals

[@Jan-gh7qi]

Hate to be that guy, but please vote. I had the dame struggle a while ago, but if you don't cast your vote, the AfD grows stronger. (Theyr people always turn up, so indirectly you DO vote). If you really can't decide, just vote for DIE PARTEI, that is, what satire partys are made for ;)

[@johncase1353]

Why can't the world be more simple like it use to be when all we had to worry about was the Reply Girls and LifeInATent.

[@essmene]

I am not sure if you mentioned it, but PARTEI is an acronym for (P)artei für (A)rbeit, (R)echtsstaat, (T)ierschutz, (E)litenförderung und basisdemokratische (I)nitiative

[@justarandomgothamite5466]

Would've liked it if you had also explained the SSW but I guess as a Franconian living pre-election of 2021 it can be forgiven. (If you are aren't from SH: the SSW is the party of the danish minority that lives mostly in Schleswig. It is exempt from the 5% hurdle as it represents a minority group and is the only party to do so. You can't vote for them everywhere in Geramny. They currently hold one seat in the Bundestag.)

[@dasheiligedonerhuhn]

I think that especially regarding the cdu and spd parties the recent corruption scandals are worth mentioning

[@MrFG466]

Interesting graphics design for the Party's logos. If you didn't know the logos were political parties you would think they are competitors of Lidl and Aldi. Did same graphic artist get the job to all the parties logos?? 😆 🤣

[@atconnys8786]

There used to be the Biertrinkerpartei also? Are they still present or hangover or drunk to death?

[@tarsyth3433]

I remember there being the APPD (Anarchist Pogo Party of Germany), which were pretty much all about getting drunk, but they disbanded ages ago

[@minski76]

Shoutout to Mark Bülow for allowing rewboss to include the very good party Die PARTEI in his video. :) Also - you'd fit right in. :) On a serious note (I know, I know goes against all the party stands for) - while originally going in with promise of alternatively voting yes - no- yes -no in every consecutive vote no matter what it's about, Martin Sonneborn, member of the EU parliament for Die PARTEI has very much always voted social and humanitarian, especially when the votes were close and his one vote actually could matter. Therefore - in the day and age of Winfried Kretschmann Die PARTEI is very much not right of Die Grünen.

[@swanpride]

Okay, some things to add here: First regarding the conservatives. It is important to realise that "conservatives" in Germany move slowly, but they move. Eventually. And rarely backwards (though currently they are clearly in a backwards phase). The big fight in this party is not just between CSU and CDU, it is also between the moderate wing of the Party, which Merkel heads, and his opponents, who would like to undo some of her work. The SPD isn't just any party, it is the oldest party in Germany. As such it had some high points - like standing against Hitler and pressuring Bismark into introducing the first social system in Germany - and low point - like initially supporting WWI and, more recently, forgetting that they are actually the WORKER'S PARTY!!!!. Regarding the FDP it is important to know that in the liberal sense liberal doesn't just mean liberal. Or, to put it differently, the FDP are a melting pot of people who want more "freedom", but one shouldn't confuse them with liberaterian. The fight in this party usually happens between those, who are mostly interested in protecting businesses, and those who are mostly social progressive. The Greens are split into the so called "fundies" (the fundamentalists) and the "realos" (the part of the party which knows what a compromise is). The Linke are less the SED, and more an alliance between the SED light and the former left wing of the SPD, which split up in the early 2020s, basically rendering the SPD unable to win on the federal level. The Partei is a joke. Thus said, they actually do practice politics. But more following the personal opinion of whoever got a seat than an actual program.

[@rewboss]

I believe the FDP claims to be the oldest party in Germany. It traces its origins back to the 1848 revolution.

[@bertjafn]

@@rewboss I don’t think so. Only very few parties survived 1933-45 by going underground or into exile. The SPD was one of them, I‘m not aware of any liberal party that did so. Also, the FDP was created in 1948 by joining several smaller liberal parties into one bigger one. Lastly, the SPD also has it‘s roots in social movements of the 1848/1849 revolution. The FDP may rightly claim that their traditions go back that far, but not that the party itself is that old.

[@laurentcollaer4483]

in french FDP mean "fils de p u t e " wich mean son of a b-word and this confuse me a lot xD

[@secretlycanine]

Frei nach Groucho Marx: „Ich mag keinem Club angehören, der mich als Mitglied aufnimmt.“

[@i.i.iiii.i.i]

The funny thing is that I get the highest percentages with Die Partei when I use the WahlOmat... About 20 percentage points more than with any other party 😆

[@thecashier930]

I think that's actually the case for most people. Whenever they don't have a good joke answer, they just answer the common sense thing to do. Which other parties fail at.

[@robertjarman3703]

How prominent are the advertising campaigns in election season?

[@S7E_Siriel-Privat]

Depends: if you live in a big city they are omnipresent, like you will know the campaigns inside out in less than a week, but if you live in a village you may not even notice that there is an election going on until you get a notification... but I have to say that it got 'worse' (depending on how you view it) in the last few years. (I can only speak for the area around Dresden in the east of Germany tho)

[@MK-rc3pq]

Mainly posters on the street and some adds on state funded media channels (ARD / ZDF) once in a while (though to really judge that i would actually need to watch television :D )... Also we do have for some years now actually a live discussion on tele before elections with the main candidates. Cant remember when exactly that was introduced, but i think 8-12 years ago... You can get by here without noticing tooo much and not constantly being blasted with adds :)

[@ManOfTheWeek596]

You basically see some posters of the different candidates for the direct mandate for your area and maybe general ones for the parties themselves. Apart from that the only other indication is the letter that informs you, that you are eligable to vote.

[@enoens6237]

Also, election advertising starts to appear mostly about four to six weeks before the election and even then it is mostly posters. TV ads are few and far in between.

[@typxxilps]

they appear late and are limited to amount of posters and tv spots. The parties can not buy ad time in tv ... so not such a big deal.

[@ricdotdev]

Where are the Pirates??? 🏴‍☠️

[@nikolasrhine3252]

Not in the Bundestag.

[@WnuckVader]

Not in the Bundestag! *badum tss*

[@drsnova7313]

They self-destructed quite a while ago. Shame, since I liked them. The stupid name certainly probably also didn't do them any favors.

[@timolino567]

@@drsnova7313 The name probably wasn't the problem, in czechia the pirates (in coalition with the centre-right Mayors and Independents party) could actually become largest party in the upcoming national election.

[@TheParappa]

Probably out on the sea and plundering.

[@Cobinja]

I love that reference to Groucho Marx 🙂

[@sshawnuff]

"I would never vote for a party that would have me as a member" Well, I think that's basically the idea of the party the party. Every german citizen should be a member with exactly your attitude. If you look at their share of votes, that's how it works.

[@gegenrechts7286]

It’s called „Die Partei“ not the party. Never translate Names.

[@sshawnuff]

@@gegenrechts7286 Against the right (I dared to translate) and so apodictic? No fear of autoallergic diseases? Let me completely disagreee. It's the party "the party", and it is always right: kzbin.info/www/bejne/fInMinqmrKZpr7M

[@gegenrechts7286]

@@sshawnuff you know, not everyone who is against right, is ultra-left. Also I Hope you know the political differences between right and left. So Basically it’s not richt to translate names. Because, sometimes it changes the meaning. But what the ppl do and what is right, is a different Story. In this case it was not to blaming you, it’s just because it basically changes a bit the satiric meaning. Just if you want to know, exactly we are not Germans, we are Deutsche. The word Deutsch has a deep binding with Netherlands, Austria and Switzerland.

[@sshawnuff]

@@gegenrechts7286 I think you are a Depp and the word Depp has a deep international binding.

[@callisoncaffrey]

I was skittish about the AfD at first, but the more time passes the more I have to agree that they are the only alternative. Not saying they are perfect by any means, but considering what else is out there, they make the most sense. They are also the party with the hardest rules against right-wing extremism. If a member shows any signs he gets kicked out, while in other parties left-wing extremism is openly celebrated and financially supported even. But as economically savvy the lesbian lady (yes, their leader is a homosexual) is, her positive stance towards China worries me deeply.

[@steve1978ger]

I'm confident to say that the German Greens never, ever were "marxist", or particularly interested in the working class. Ecologists, alternatives, grassroots democrats, pacifists, stoners, hippies, even anarchists, yes, but never "marxists". In fact they even have a strong conservative wing, represented e.g. by the premier of Baden-Württemberg, Kretschmer.

[@runaldwaschlap2268]

you would never vote for a party that has you as a member. so you are not joining so you can vote for them? :D

[@ThamiorSilberdrache]

This election will be very hard. I really don't know who I will vote for. And I don't think the election campaigns are going to make it clearer for me. Four years ago, I had a similar problem and voted for one of the small parties, to be honest. But that means wasting the vote, somehow. And I think the vote is far to important to be wasted again. But I have to say that the Greens, whom I have voted before that, have taken a direction I really can't support. Maybe that's because I live in Baden-Württemberg and have Kretschmann and Palmer as bad examples how Greens really shouldn't be right at my doorstep. But still, I remember their last yoalition-talks with the CDU and FDP four years ago where they were willing to renounce some of their most important goals for environmental protection if they got one extra minister. (Fun fact is that the SPD, which isn't a classical environmentalist party, negotiated much harder environmental goals then the Greens wanted for a CDU-Green-FDP coalition...) And why should I even care to vote for a party whose most important promises are pure paper waste when it comes to posts and power?

[@theexchipmunk]

That thinking is sadly what keeps the big ones in power. You never waste your vote. By voting smaller prays you reduce the percentage ob votes other partys get. So they loose a bit of power. If enough people do it, the lower ranking big partys could fall pretty hard.

[@ThamiorSilberdrache]

@@theexchipmunk It may reduce their percentage of votes but not their percentage of seats, so it doesn't reduce their power. There is no "minimal amount of votes" you have to get to gain your power, only a minimal percentage. If only one person goes to election, the party he votes for will get 100% of all seats and will be technically fully legitimated. The party I voted for last election only got around 0,3% which means they didn't even get refunds for their election campaign. That was pretty useless. And the last new party that managed to enter the Bundestag didn't make anything better, only worse. So much for protest voting... I think it will end up in strategical voting. At least I don't think I'll vote for a party that gets less then 2% in polls...

[@connectingthedots100]

First time voting, really? Weren't you allowed to vote in local elections. I was in the UK.

[@tobyk.4911]

He said that it's now the first time that he can vote in a FEDERAL election (as he became a German citizen last year) ... he didn't say anything about not voting in local elections

[@AlexJones-ue1ll]

Hello fellow Dark-Fan ;)

[@connectingthedots100]

@@AlexJones-ue1ll lol oops caught! 😳Yes, I'm a hopeless dark fan. But I also love Rewboss. He is concise and funny and updates me on Germany since I'm hardly ever there. Good to see you, mate!

[@AlexJones-ue1ll]

@@connectingthedots100 Well you are a person of taste, proven again :)

[@ArnoSchmidt70]

You know what happens to people who vote Green in Bavaria, didn't you?

[@lillywho]

Turned into Leberkäse?

[@beageler]

They recline on their deck chair made of money and sip their drink? [edit] I misread, I thought you were talking about members. I guess voters are more likely to be duped normal people.

[@lillywho]

@@beageler That's an FDP thing though

[@beageler]

@@lillywho One would think that, but that, among other things, green voters are the most frequent flyers shows otherwise. green = well of, FDP = business owners.

[@yasminesteinbauer8565]

The Greens are the second strongest party in Bavaria.

[@colorfulflowers574]

SPD is the winner. I think like "the people are bored with CDU and people just don't like other parties" so the choice is more to SPD. Any thoughts?

[@jannecapelle_art]

tbh, i do feel like Nico Semsrott of Die Partei (has a youtube channel!) has actually done some really good work in making the financial side of being in the bundrstag a lot more transparent. and just in general he says a lot that Die Partei is satire, but when actual politics is becoming a satire of itself with all the lobbying and corruption, its kind of not that far of a reach to then see comedians and satirists doing the actual politics.... i kinda wish there was a party with the socially leftist sensibilities as Die Linke, but with the popularity and the focus on climate change as Die Grünen. Bc i think climate change is basically the literal most important thing facing humanity... EVER, and social change to the better (left) HAS to work into that. without a functioning planet, politics wont matter anymore cause we're literally all gonna be dead except for a few millionaires and billionaires if capitalism keeps going like this - and i dont think as long as the capitalists are the one in power, anythings ever gonna change enough to actually prevent complete global desaster in a few decades and it really scares me 🙂

[@tobyk.4911]

Nico Semsrott is in the European Parliament, not in the Bundestag.

[@John_Weiss]

…except the millionaires and billionaires rely on the very infrastructure, physical, _human, and social,_ that they are destroying. They tell themselves that they "did it themselves" and that they need no one else … while they are taken care of by hundreds of people. They are in for a _very_ rude awakening when changed climate starts throwing everything into disarray.

[@jannecapelle_art]

@@tobyk.4911 oops sorry, im german but i often forget the exact terminology about the technicalities in german politics

[@jannecapelle_art]

@@John_Weiss well, *I* know that, but for these rich fuckers its all about short term profit. when the world has truly gone to shit, even for them, theyre gonna be dead anyway. the young generations and the generations to come are the one who are gonna have to live with this shit. or die bc of it.

[@yasminesteinbauer8565]

You didn't tell us which party is the best.🤷‍♂️

[@hoppes979]

Helmut Kohl from which party?

[@DubioserKerl]

CDU

[@sebastianschumann4744]

Wer zum teufel ist die LKR ich schwöre das ist das erste mal dass ich den namen gehört hab lol

[@scanida5070]

Recently we had our mayor election here in my home town and DIE PARTEI participated the first time. As a candidate, they choose someone from Spain (a really swell and nice dude) and because of them their slogan was literally changed to: „Wählt DIE PARTEI - Sie ist sehr bueno.“ (Vote DIE PARTEI - it‘s very bueno.). I still remember how many times I chatted with that guy and we both laughed at this wonderful choice of slogan! His party actually overtook the AfD and the Lefts so not bad :P Sidenote: You should‘ve mentioned that DIE PARTEI has set up a chancellor candidate in nearly EVERY constituency.

[@vermilion7777]

You know they approved the plans of the EU to monitor private e-mails? Die Partei is a radical left party that camouflages as satire. At least Die Linke is honest.

[@Skoell1983]

4:42 Ahhh... Groucho Marx

[@johanneslehmann4915]

i can't decide which one of those parties will do the best for me in comparison to their corruption. The PARTEI will at least sponsoring some Freibier.

[@vetrixfx9264]

Die Partei is really good as an oppositional party, I'd love to see them in Bundestag

[@kaengurus.sind.genossen]

I am a member of Die PARTEI.

[@Gigidag77]

so voting for "Die Partei" is like voting for Verne Supreme to be president in the US, lol

[@i.i.iiii.i.i]

Well, they still have actual realistic political positions when it comes to the important topics. We have an official "quiz" with the most important political topics before every election, a bit like The Political Compass test. But here every party submits their own answers to those questions. So in the end you see in which topics you align with which parts and how much you align overall. Die Partei had by far the highest overlap with my answers :P

[@theexchipmunk]

No, not really. Let me tell it from my perspective as a member of die Partei (who also stood for Vote in local elections for our Kreis) While we love to blast out satire it always has a realpolitik background. Its always tongue and cheek but there is always truth in the core. And when we get voted, we still portray a satirical facade, but do actual politics. You will often find us working with the local Left, SPD and Greens. We do a lot of supportive voting for stuff they put out that we agree with. Like for example in our region, getting rid of a local totally never ever corrupt CDU Mayor, stoping some insane garbage dump plans that would pollute the countryside, and finally get the local Bicycle fast lanes build that have been on hold since said CDU officials came into power.

[@florian9540]

DiePartei is, i would argue, very very much left leaning. I wouldnt call them extremist, but some figures are very close to be rightfully called this way.

[@snek976]

Just out of interest, could you name me some?

[@florian9540]

@@snek976 Haha, no, its my reallife name. Im german. Another "Florian" is said to be the protector of the firefighters. In the Roman empire it meant something along the lines of "flower lover"

[@vetrixfx9264]

@@florian9540 Ich glaub er wollte dass du sagst, welche beinahe-extremisten es in Die Partei gibt

[@florian9540]

@@vetrixfx9264 Wow, haha. Ich bin so dumm. Ich bin da gerade aufgestanden und habe das voll falsch gelesen.

[@florian9540]

@@snek976 Yeah sure. Niko Semsrott is one of them.

[@wez5385]

Die Partei is the extreme middle..

[@sebastianschumann4744]

Putting your adress at the end of this exact video was probably a terrible terrible mistake.

[@rewboss]

It's a PO box.

[@JJdaViking]

If you can't control yourself, you're not okey ... but you are allowed to vote #control #politics #insane #idiots #religionofpolitics #religion #freedom #Peace #FunFact #quote @JJdaViking

[@BiaZarr]

I'd actually put the green party right of the SPD and left of the FDP. Like, originally that party might have been very leftist, but in recent years they've become a lot more - in lack of a better term - bourgeois. In more leftist political circles a lot of people call them either a greener version of the FDP, or a greener version of the CDU. Although i can see how more right-wing people see them as very left.

[@guzelmarmara]

Die Partei deserves a special video for their weird sense of humor.

[@Hand-in-Shot_Productions]

They've got a lot of comedy on their hands! As it's leader said about the traditional campaign promise of _Die_ _PARTEI_ to rebuild the Berlin Wall: "I give you and all the German public my word of honor, I repeat-my word of honor-that under us there will be no order to shoot at the Wall." For more weird humor: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Die_PARTEI

[@guzelmarmara]

@@Hand-in-Shot_Productions Their jokes about the Berlin street lights were brutal too :)

[@markusoberndorfer4634]

Rewboss for Bundeskanzler!

[@ronalddevine9587]

Sounds a lot like the guy we just got rid of here in the USA.

[@beageler]

You're talking about the AFD? Yeah, they're one of the wave of populist parties. Still for well maintained social systems, though, just only for real Germans, whatever that is supposed to mean.

[@jannecapelle_art]

@@beageler yeah, thats literally what national socialism is - "socialism", or at least the optics of it, but literally only for "the right people", and of course the people in power are the ones who decide who the right people are.

[@beageler]

@@jannecapelle_art But even that (not compatible with socialism since it's not universal) is only superficial. Be it the "Raubrittertum" of the Third Reich or the "Bonzentum mit nicht-elitärem Anstrich" of the AFD, neither is even social towards that special group of people. It's purely reactionary and elitist. But even though the AFD is very right-wing, more than conservative and widely fascistic... There is a difference. National socialism is so closely connected to the Nazis. And while members of the AFD might be able to do inhuman acts, equating the AFD to National-Socialism denigrates the horrors our grandparents and Greatparents were culprits and victims of, and so many more were just victims of. They're just not on that level. Kinda ranty, yeah :-/

[@cal28kim]

The conservation of Angela Merkel😶❓ Well she just KEEPS going 🤔.

[@vrenak]

How about signing up to join the voter apathy party?

[@rewboss]

Can't be bothered.

[@KonradTheWizzard]

Definitely. One of those days. ...not right now, need to watch one more video first.

[@nicoheintel3212]

FDP time! :)

[@smithv447]

Helmut kohl

[@ronin667]

The more you will learn about our political parties, the less you will be able to decide whom to vote for.

[@imrehundertwasser7094]

At least you will get a pretty good idea who _not_ to vote for. Which is a quite a lot of people and parties.

[@BavarianHobbit]

Probably the first time I am not going to vote for anyone. No party represents my political ideolgy.

[@derschredder2613]

Hätt ich mir auch auf deutsch geben können

[@imrehundertwasser7094]

After living here in Germany for quite some time and experiencing what these parties actually do and stand for (in contrast to what they claim to stand for), I've come to the conclusion that none of them deserve my vote. Except perhaps Die Partei as a protest vote if I cannot for the life of me find a more suitable party to vote for even among the smaller parties you left out.

[@typxxilps]

well done ,,, on such a delicate topic better know as lethal minefield if you have to explain that

[@germanchris4440]

Don't need to see this. They are all the same.

[@Alfadrottning86]

lol, the way i learned about them - die Linke: left wing progressive, focused on social topics, migration, integration, diversity. Actually less identity politics and more policies for cultural compromise - also the remnants of the former SED party ... so quite a lot of baggage. - die Grunen: environmental, but not as much as one would hope. A party for the better off, progressive upper middle class that cares for social topics - but often is not affected by them. Kind of consumed by identity ideas that have little real substance. Since i am a member of the Left/Green in my country .. i am pretty disappointed with the German Greens, who cannot seem to work out a proper identity and tend to get entangled in silly American style identity idiocy. - die Partei: never heard of them... - SPD: used to be a workers party, but moved more and more to the centre and centre right. Embracing establishment policies, neo-liberalism. Kind of center left on social issues - but center right on economic issues. To be honest, i have no idea what they stand for these days. They are not really the workers party, they are not really conservatives - They are kind of in the middle but also nothing. - CDU: typical older generation conservative centre right party - favours "more power to the powerful" and squarely "the establishment". No idea about the CSU. - FDP: i learned that they are your typical economic liberals ... less regulation, dog-eat-dog world. Social safety is not their thing, nor is anything to combat social inequality. To me, they sound like a typical trustfunds baby party of the rich that have no idea of the struggles of a lower class person - nor do they care. - LKR: never heard of them... - AfD: your standard bigoted right-wing populists. Holocaust deniers, protest voters, "concerned citizens" and "societies left behind..." and the fringe. They are the types that align with Farage and Trump, Le Pen and Wilders. Sadly they attract votes from the working class - just like the other mentioned party leaders in other countries. And all my information about those is filtered through Hamburg University campus friends and my brief stay in Germany - so not very reliable ... also, since i am no German citizen, i cannot vote there anyway. If i was voting in Germany, i would probably vote Green .. but would not be very happy about it.

[@mikebocchinfuso9437]

The afd party sounds like the Maga Republicans here

[@robertjarman3703]

The German law requires that all parties are internally democratic, transparent, and has some rather detailed rules on finances, so the AfD has a lot of trouble replicating itself based on Nazi ideals, especially the idea of a Fürherprinzep. It cannot really turn itself into a replica of the Nazi state within a state with a giant militia poised to take power in a coup like Schleicher feared. When your party must have congresses at least every two years for every level of organization (Gemeinden, Kreise, substate district, state, federal, and if applicable, European), that the executive can be at most 20% of the delegates of any convention and so by definition the congress delegates outnumber them 4 to one or more, the executive board as a whole or a congress must ratify decisions in almost all cases and not the chairperson, a convention must elect the candidates for parties lists and the executive, and a constituency convention Walhkreiseparteitag must choose the constituency candidates, and all elections including for constituency candidates, the list and rank order, the delegates to higher levels, and the Vorstanden of often dozens of members, must be held with a secret ballot, including a yes or no vote with a majority to win if even only one person stands (and otherwise repeated ballots if more than one person stands until a majority is reached), then it becomes much harder to create some cult around a leader, and it means that anti democratically aligned parties like the AfD with raging intolerance will mostly expend their energy against themselves, as can be seen in a lot of their recent party leadership spillovers.

[@xaverlustig3581]

You're being ridiculous, the AfD neither has nor wants a "Führerprinzip". The only party currently not up to democratic standards are the Greens because their internal system grants members unequal voting rights based on sex. I guess the NPD is probably also internally undemocratic, but I haven't looked.

[@robertjarman3703]

@@xaverlustig3581 The point I had was that these German laws make it hard if not impossible for a party to get a leader like Hitler following orders unquestionably. If the AfD have no Hitler, then this plan is working. As for the Greens, the German laws don't require anything that the Greens are not doing. Having two cochairs is not illegal, nor would a rule that they have about as many men elected as they have women elected to any given position. German laws around discrimination generally look at outcomes of a given policy, and not only the paper rule. If I remember correctly there is a law for publicly traded firms with a supervisory board, the Aufsichtsrat, to have at least 30% men and 30% women. German religious law is also like that where they on purpose create coexistence with a law providing the main religions with representation on public councils to advise them about matters like this and they would give a seat to Muslims in Germany if they could figure out which Muslim group speaks for them broadly enough like the Evangelical Lutheran Church does for most Protestants in Germany.

[@xaverlustig3581]

@@robertjarman3703 My first point was that the AfD are not nazis. They're not planning to install a new Führer, neither within their party nor within the country. My other point was that the internal structures of the Greens are positively unconstitutional. Any quota - even a balanced one - infringes on the right of the individual not to be discriminated by sex. Besides, the green's internal quota system is asymmetric. It allows max 50% men, but up to 100% women in a given board. It also gives an arbitrarily small number of women the power to stall majority decisions, and an arbitrarily small number of women to prevent men from speaking.

[@robertjarman3703]

@@xaverlustig3581 Those in the AfD who would want to install such a leader knows there are rules like this that make it hard if not impossible to do so, and this has a big chilling effect on them, and people who would otherwise join the party. It helps to keep them out of the realm of true Naziism. As for the Greens, there are enough men in the Greens that it would be unlikely that they would create a delegate ratio that extreme except for a specific club or committee specifically about women perhaps, although lots of parties do have women´s clubs or committees. Still I would make the rule such that not more than a majority of an odd number and not more than half of an even number are of any gender, which keeps the rules simple and also provides for anyone who might be non binary if they happen to show up. Being unconstitutional is also an unlikely outcome given that parties have a basic right of association and the ability to make their own rules, and discrimination rules in Germany usually look at outcomes just as much as they look at the rules on paper. If they find that the Greens afford similar amounts of power to men and women, then a court is not likely to find that the Greens are acting in an unconstitutional manner. Also, in Article 3 section 2 of the Basic Law, it says that measures for making women and men more equal in practice are constitutional. - Men and women shall have equal rights. The state shall promote the actual implementation of equal rights for women and men and take steps to eliminate disadvantages that now exist.

[@vermilion7777]

@@robertjarman3703 Stop spreading such bullshit. Or at least go to a psychatrist.

[@californiaandwashington1377]

I like spd

[@lillywho]

Brace for a lot of idiotic (bigoted) comments because it's about politics....

[@thegreypenguin5097]

fr...

[@dorisw5558]

If it were my channel, I would have no qualms disabling comments on this kind of video. And it says a lot about Andrew that he leaves the comment section open.

[@Hand-in-Shot_Productions]

@@dorisw5558 People who post videos can actually delete certain comments from the videos while keeping the comment section open. I think I would do just that for toxic comments that come on _my_ channel!

[@DSBMAC13]

your knowlwdge of the parties reminds me of the 90s, tbh... back then it was like you said, but nowadays...? the CDU isn't conservative anymore at all. The only real conservative party in germany nowadays is the AfD. And they're not fascist at all, if you are looking for those guys you'll have to go for NPD oder III.Weg. And the SPD WAS a workers party... they blew it all back in the late 90s (Agenda 2010, etc) and are still the main reason for the low wages and for people being very poor when they're old, even though they worked for more than 45 years. The Green Party is basically just for rich people from big cities, who try to force everyone else living their green lifestyle - though most of the people don't even have the money for things like electric cars, bio-food, vegan bullshit and green energy.

[@gutholz4443]

regarding the CDU/CSU you need to make a difference between what they say & what they do...they flash right and turn left they want to be recognised as a conservative party, but in fact they aren´t, the things they stand for are actually far-left (in my opinion) this phenomenon can be observed best at what Seehofer (CSU) says and does: he criticises Merkel in public for her open borders politics, but when it comes to actions he agrees with her silently that is why he is also known as "Drehhofer" for switching his mind so fast and often Regarding your description of the AfD: you need to understand, that in general all parties (except the AfD) stand for more or less the same political targets, that makes the AfD the only real opposition, therefor the rest of the establishment use their power to fight (I used that word intentionally, no it is not too hard) the AfD with all (fair & unfair) they have; especially by defame them as far-right or even fascist (which of course is not true). Nobody can list proofs for that. You only hear they are far-right or fascist, but if you ask why you wont get an answer. I tell you whatever opposition you want to establish, the old parties will always defame them as far-right or fascist, for the mere reason that people will not vote for them (= preservation of own political power).

[@0topon]

I think that you can safely consider them as far-right, because when you look on the definitions of far-right the Afd checks off many points like Nationalism, Xenophobia, Reactionary or Homophobia. Of course not all members support these ideas but a large and dominant part of the party. Sources: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Far-right_politics www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/roanna-carletontaylor/what-exactly-do-we-mean-b_b_17393486.html

[@gutholz4443]

@@0topon Wikipedia & Huffpost are no valid sources. Both sources promote left ideology, so you can´t get a neutral opinion from there. Nationalism is right, not far-right, Xenophobia is a lie, in fact they have politicians from various nationalities, Homophobia is also a lie, why would homoxexual politicians chose that party to work for? They want certain rules to be followed, but they are not homo- or xenophobic, that is a common misunderstandig. You see, it is not as easy as you might think. Check neutral sources, as few as it might exist...

[@0topon]

@@gutholz4443 With Huffpost youre right they lean more left, but with Wikipedia? I dont know, why do you think that? For the question why homosexual or polticians with other nationalities are in the party you can read this (german): www.stern.de/politik/deutschland/afd-im-wandel--schwuler-politiker-tritt-aus-afd-aus--weil-sie-zu-rechts-wird-7361826.html Basically he supported the party because of the criticism of the Eu and Islam until the homophobic comments got to high for him. An example for these was the comment from Andreas Gehlmann where he said that germany should forbid openly homosexuality (maybe he even wanted to put them in prisons) Sources :de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andreas_Gehlmann facebook.com/1078884028800904/posts/falschmeldung-unserer-l%C3%BCckenpressefrau-quade-von-der-linken-stellte-im-parlament/1124024990953474/ For the Xenophobia: How would you define it?

[@gutholz4443]

@@0topon Regarding Wikipedia: you know, that everyone can write or change texts written there? If you want a person to look bad, you just write some bullshit in the article about that person, isn´t that exactly how Wikipedia works? I have never heared of some sort of quality control or fact check. And if someone recognizes false facts about that person and changes it back, there will always be one who changes it back to false again and again. Thats why I do not trust Wikipedia. What about Alice Weidel. She is a known lesbian. She seems not to have that kind of trouble you mention. Xenophobia is, what I think, a rejection of all foreign people or their culture or lifestyle. AfD is not against migration! AfD wants migration to follow rules. E.g. People who are willing to adopt to our lifestyle and follow our rules and do not leech the social system, but work for their living. I dont call that xenophobic, that is legit.

[@0topon]

@@gutholz4443 On wikipedia there are higher positions of "fact checkers" that control sites so this stuff doesnt happen. Lesbians dont have those problems because they are in the society more respected, mainly because men dislike gay people more. Also it helps zhat she is in a high position in the party. Source: web.archive.org/web/20131017061614/psychology.ucdavis.edu/rainbow/html/jsi2000.pdf Of all foreign people? If thats your defintion than it is not usable because almost no one could be by that xenophobic.

[@nevillelongbottom7687]

LKR and DiePartei are not in the Bundestag, die Linke (SED), the greens and SPD shouldn't be^^ Also: CDU is not right wing!

[@rewboss]

LKR and Die Partei are in the Bundestag: their members weren't directly voted in as members of the LKR and Die Partei, but they joined (or founded, in the case of the LKR) them after they were elected. Die Linke, the Greens and the SPD should be in the Bundestag because they were voted in. This is called "democracy". And the CDU most certainly is right wing.

[@nevillelongbottom7687]

@@rewboss Die Linke, the Greens and SPD "shouldn't" be in the Bundestag, because nobody should vote for them :P And parts of their members are completly unconstitutional. The CDU has moved so far to the left in the last 10 years, they can't be considered conservative anymore.

[@robertm1112]

The freie demokratische party sounds good to me.

[@phakees5139]

SPD 🌹✊

[@thegreypenguin5097]

First?