Why a Hard Right Party is on the Rise in Norway

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@TheChocolatBlanc
@TheChocolatBlanc 2 ай бұрын
*Why a Hard Right Party is on the Rise in [Insert EU Country] ?*
@r-pu4md
@r-pu4md 2 ай бұрын
it’s always mostly inmigration, but they always act surprised
@mynameisschezuan
@mynameisschezuan 2 ай бұрын
@@r-pu4md it’s racism to not want to give away your country
@Solstice261
@Solstice261 2 ай бұрын
That and a general tiredness with established parties it seems, along with the far right ones knowing better how to use populism and misinformation through the internet to win over indecisive voters. If it were only normal immigration worries, it would only affect border countries that tend to receive a lot of immigrants being processed, but Norway doesn't face that, when they get illegal immigrants it's usually refugees that have been divided among the EU since, you know, if we want to talk with moral superiority we have to at least​ try to uphold it@@r-pu4md
@soundscape26
@soundscape26 2 ай бұрын
@@mynameisschezuan "Give away your country" is a complete exaggeration and yes, it opens the doors to racism
@leroydanny4072
@leroydanny4072 2 ай бұрын
Tha media 😂
@hagalathekido
@hagalathekido 2 ай бұрын
Norwegian here, I wouldn't say theyre hard right, they're regular right, they're far less right than the nationals in France or republicans in us. However their policy is mainly on immigration and assimilation, in a parliamentary system the smaller parties are naturally topic parties.
@TTV5
@TTV5 2 ай бұрын
It’s always impossible to place parties precisely on a left-right axis, but a party in the richest country in the world wanting to remove the wealth tax (2/3 of which is paid by the country’s richest 1%) and making up for it by cutting all foreign aid, is about as selfish a party as you’ll find anywhere in Europe.
@TheMalayLinguist
@TheMalayLinguist 2 ай бұрын
Everything to the Left (as is this youtube channel) is "far right" apparently
@caiden5855
@caiden5855 2 ай бұрын
​@@TTV5Why is Norway obligated to pay foreign aid.
@wtfamiactuallyright1823
@wtfamiactuallyright1823 2 ай бұрын
You're "HARD RIGHT" now. TLDR, has spoken. 😉
@BlAckH0le-f7y
@BlAckH0le-f7y 2 ай бұрын
Republicans are centrist for EU standards, the Democrats are just so far left they make being centrist comparatively radical conservative
@Froge0
@Froge0 2 ай бұрын
I'm guessing people looked at Sweden and thought "Yeah I don't want that happening here"
@extrapolate
@extrapolate 2 ай бұрын
Sweden will only get worse. It’ll forever stand as an example of what happens when you appease Islamists and when white guilt takes over decision making.
@Staroni_
@Staroni_ 2 ай бұрын
im from norway, i can say that whats happening in sweeden is starting to happen here.
@molt45
@molt45 2 ай бұрын
Don't want what happening?
@ArkBlanc
@ArkBlanc 2 ай бұрын
@@molt45 Muslim immigrants who don’t integrate into our culture.
@JoK04
@JoK04 2 ай бұрын
@@molt45 Radical Islam
@octavioquartio
@octavioquartio 2 ай бұрын
Hang on! The 2001 election lead to a centre-right coallition. The Popular Party was not involved until 2013. Also, the 2005 election lead to a Labour/Socialist Left/Centre Party coallition, not a Labour alone government.
@dnw009
@dnw009 Ай бұрын
I mean there's also the whole any hard line stance on less immigration getting labelled as far right nowadays by media regardless of any other policy stances by the parties. So forgetting facts and spinning a story isn't a surprise I'm expecting it at this point and I'll be surprised if they don't.
@PeterBuvik
@PeterBuvik 23 күн бұрын
2001 led to the Bondevik 2 Government with Erna as Local government Minister
@LXXXIX
@LXXXIX 2 ай бұрын
The Norwegian labor party hasn’t been left wing in 30 years. They’re a neoliberal party that’s mostly in the center but in a few areas skews to the left and in other areas to the right.
@andreaspedersen3952
@andreaspedersen3952 2 ай бұрын
Very true! Just look at it's leaders last 30 years: only rich papas boys from the rich part of the capitol. They might claim they have the working-class in their minds.
@Kalimdor199Menegroth
@Kalimdor199Menegroth 2 ай бұрын
Neo-liberalism is a blend of socialism with liberalism. Socialists hijacked classical liberalism basically. So they are still left-wing.
@Pumalover2
@Pumalover2 2 ай бұрын
This is unfortunately the same in Malta
@Ukalnsk
@Ukalnsk 2 ай бұрын
average labor party (and any other party really)
@Alex.The.Lionnnnn
@Alex.The.Lionnnnn 2 ай бұрын
Same here in Australia. Glimpses of what they used to do, but ultimately neoliberal garbage.
@bosto23
@bosto23 2 ай бұрын
The Progress party could've been considered "hard right" in the 90s, but their times in coalition governments, has definitely domesticated them a lot
@amaansaeed23
@amaansaeed23 2 ай бұрын
Of ur gonna write a fake letter to show how bad a minority is u r. A far right
@keto0303
@keto0303 2 ай бұрын
The very fact that a "far right" party has "progress" in its name is a great irony. Conservative/reactionary ideology in principle does not believe in human "progress"
@jonasastrom7422
@jonasastrom7422 2 ай бұрын
The sad reality of all european immigration-sceptic parties, despite the ever growing need for harder measures and deportation programs
@melcadman
@melcadman 2 ай бұрын
​@@jonasastrom7422Says who?!
@noriantiri9310
@noriantiri9310 2 ай бұрын
​@@jonasastrom7422you are sick in the head. Deportation? You're absolutely out of your mind! If there's a country in Europe able to integrate its migrants, it's Norway as well
@olafsigursons
@olafsigursons 2 ай бұрын
We have to stop using far right for no reason. Criticizing immigration doesn't make you far right. Immigration is a policy which have a great impact on the society. It's OK and sane to criticized it.
@FiaskoFox
@FiaskoFox 2 ай бұрын
The members keep getting outed as neo n*zis, though. I think it's a fair assessment.
@LuKing2
@LuKing2 2 ай бұрын
FRP is a far right boomer party though, the closest we have to a Reaganomics fiscal austerity party too on top on all the fear mongering over non-ehite immigrants
@gothicgolem2947
@gothicgolem2947 2 ай бұрын
The way you criticise it can make you far right tho
@garyish
@garyish 2 ай бұрын
Europeans have to decide what kind of society they want and if they want economic growth at all costs. Birth rates in Europe are below replacement rates which means without immigration, population will keep shrinking over the next several decades which will result in a stagnant or worse, shrinking economy. See Japan as an example. This isn’t good or bad. If GDP shrinks in line with shrinking population, the per-person standard of living will largely remain the same. But without having more people (either make more babies or get immigrants), the economy will not grow much. This is just math. You cannot fault immigrants for bringing their own culture. Europe needs to stop pursuing the impossible trinity of not enough babies to carry the “original culture” forward, higher economic growth and immigrants all all the same time.
@transylvanian8437
@transylvanian8437 2 ай бұрын
@@garyish migrants can be assimilated, all you need is a little bit of bloody willpower to do it. Europeans assimilated all sorts of native minorities throughout the centuries, why not now? Migrants get a better life in their new country, Europe gets a workforce, that's what you call an equitable compromise.
@polestar7235
@polestar7235 2 ай бұрын
Progress Party TLDR from Norway: ★ Supports Ukraine (as all parties do) ★ Supports Israel (as the only party) ★ Anti EU and Pro NATO ★ Anti immigration from non Western countries
@Mosern1977
@Mosern1977 2 ай бұрын
* Lower taxes * Less bureaucracy and regulations * Pro oil and gas, negative to "climate above all"
@Minatures
@Minatures 2 ай бұрын
Sounds reasonable
@plasmacannon1198
@plasmacannon1198 2 ай бұрын
Apart from anti EU and pro oil they’re surprisingly reasonable, though I do dislike populist tendencies like “culture wars”
@RealConstructor
@RealConstructor 2 ай бұрын
Sounds like an ideal party.
@frankhaugen
@frankhaugen 2 ай бұрын
* Very critical of initiatives aimed at young people, but not critical of similar spending on old people * They had a minister who had a decade earlier had intercourse with a 16 year old girl so intoxicated she couldn't refuse, (Søviknes, his case caused changes to consent laws) * They're Christian conservative and not secular as all but the christian party is * Little to no long-term policies,e.g. denying climate change as a factor for fiscal policy * Frequently using demoging as arguments
@jenspettergrinipedersen5736
@jenspettergrinipedersen5736 2 ай бұрын
The video does not really give any explanation to why the Progress Party is on the rise, and it misses some important context. Firstly, there is no doubt that the opposition gains from the problems of the present government, but no explanation is given for why the PP spesifically should benefit from this. Secondly, oil and gas-policy is not that prominent in political discussions, and the difference between the government and the PP on the issue is not that large. Thirdly, immigration is an important issue for many voters, but it has not increased very much in significance lately. Also the difference between the government and the PP has been somewhat reduced, as the government has reduced the number of quota refugees and taken a stricter tone towards immigration. To the defence of TLDR, its not easy to fully explain the PPs rise. In my opinion the most imortant reason is that the Center Party, the junior partner in the government, got many votes in the last election due to a somewhat populist profile. Many of the votes were taken from the PP, who had to make painfull compromises when they were in government. Now that the CP is in government and have to make painfull compromises, it is easy for the PP to steal their votes with populist policies on, among other issues, increasing food and energy prices.
@Solstice261
@Solstice261 2 ай бұрын
So the answer is populism works well when you are in opposition, I guess that adds up, thanks for the explanation
@frcluc
@frcluc 2 ай бұрын
Thank you for the added context. Unfortunately, TLDR "News" is not really news coverage so they don't have journalists doing actual reporting, only summarise what they can find from other sources.
@Mosern1977
@Mosern1977 2 ай бұрын
@@Solstice261 - I mean their platform hasn't really changed over the last 40 years. So don't know if you can call it "populist", they are saying what they have always been saying. Its just that it echoes well with public sentiments at the moment. Stricter immigration, less tax and less government.
@eyvindr.
@eyvindr. 2 ай бұрын
I will give you a clue why FRP and the right is on the rise - energy crisis in Norway. During this government. Norwegians have experienced insane Electricity prices due to Acer agreement. - expensive fuel. They intentionally increased the price for gasoline and diesel for norwegians to combat climate change. We also pay environment tax and more for fuel and having a car, and fixing the car. - This government has shown tendencies to favor immigrants over Norwegians. For example they support ramadan and Muslims, also immigrants have free bus tickets. Weak currency. Norway have not experienced such decline in the value of the currency for a long time, making people question why the currency drop so much. -Support for LGBT community. The government has supported the LGBTQ community and even participate in events. Despite what people might think, Norwegians is rather conservative and do not accept this. - over 20 percent live on the welfare system and it is increasing. This makes the burden on society even worse. This is some of the points, of course there is more. This government is the worst we have had as far as I remember.
@Solstice261
@Solstice261 2 ай бұрын
@@eyvindr. So because you are a racist, homophobe that denies climate change, which I suppose means that norway has grown more stupid and less capable of understanding anything not made up of populist jargon, how insightful
@odlfmariner470
@odlfmariner470 2 ай бұрын
It's not "hard right" it's just regular right.
@alexandru5369
@alexandru5369 2 ай бұрын
Or , you , know, normal
@tru7hhimself
@tru7hhimself 2 ай бұрын
ah, the bot army has arrived. in every video discussing any far right party, comments like yours are spammed relentlessly with sightly different wording. repeating falsehoods does not make it true. for anyone sceptical, check this "user"'s name: it's odølf, a fake norse-looking version of adolf, making it clear where in the political spectrum these comments are coming from.
@hello855
@hello855 2 ай бұрын
They sound more normal than the majority of the GOP today. Lol.
@lordbeetrot
@lordbeetrot 2 ай бұрын
You are right. Norway is pretty left wing so that is why the progress party can seem "Hard right"
@ChiefFalque
@ChiefFalque 2 ай бұрын
@@lordbeetrot No, it's due to their egregious stances on immigration in general. Faking a letter from a muslim immigrant to spike fears for a cultural invasion is plenty to qualify a party as far right, and ever since they've kept up their focus on reducing immigration and tolerance towards cultural diversity, maintaining in the heads of MOST people that they're far-right lunatics.
@terje4392
@terje4392 Ай бұрын
You are missing a few things here. Prices of electricity, interest rates, inflation, value of the NOK are things that the current government have proven unable to do anything about, add in a rising "no EU" sentiment in the mix, and those things play well into the Progress Party. Also, the Labour Party has lowered income taxes, however, a normal family has had their costs increased by increases in fuel taxes, plastic bag taxes, taxes on food, alcohol, nicotine, sugar etc etc, giving the population a feeling that "yeah they give one cent and take two back".
@alla96xas
@alla96xas Ай бұрын
As a Norwegian, I wouldn't even really call Høyre "Conservative". It's more like Høyre = Soft Conservative, FRP = Conservative.
@LaughingOrange
@LaughingOrange Ай бұрын
That is more aligned to international politics. The fact FrP is our most conservative major party is an indication of how liberal we are as a nation. If we frame it in terms of US politics, Sylvi Listhaug is more similar to Harris than she is to Trump. Real "far-right" parties can't get a single seat in parliament because most Norwegians don't agree with their politics.
@History-and-stuff
@History-and-stuff 2 ай бұрын
What will this mean for the Talk Tuah podcast?
@der110
@der110 2 ай бұрын
Is it still around? 😂
@bigdong6943
@bigdong6943 2 ай бұрын
How will this impact Lebrons legacy?
@mentalmarvin
@mentalmarvin 2 ай бұрын
It's been replaced by the Hawk Tuah podcast
@andresmorales5807
@andresmorales5807 2 ай бұрын
How does being skeptic on immigration automatically make you a populist?
@languist
@languist 2 ай бұрын
Exactly. Fremskrittspartiet isn’t really populist, they’re actually very soft compared to other right-wing parties in Europe
@oliversherman2414
@oliversherman2414 2 ай бұрын
Because immigration does have some benefits. But these never get mentioned by right-wing parties, who do whatever they can to villainise immigrants
@Hater_Ultima
@Hater_Ultima 2 ай бұрын
No their isn't. ​@@oliversherman2414
@languist
@languist 2 ай бұрын
@@oliversherman2414 Fremskrittspartiet may be seen as anti-immigration, but they’re actually pro-immigration, just with lots of restrictions.
@Lucas_07-PL
@Lucas_07-PL 2 ай бұрын
​@@oliversherman2414y"yeah, the kinfe attacks are pretty bad, bb-but think about the kebabs! "
@niklasgjerset4268
@niklasgjerset4268 2 ай бұрын
Since when was FrP hard right?
@Mosern1977
@Mosern1977 2 ай бұрын
You know, a social democratic party that wants a slightly smaller state than the rest = hard right in Norway.
@deounivers7663
@deounivers7663 2 ай бұрын
@@Mosern1977 a party that opposes same-sex marriage is not socially democrat. It even advocates itself as liberal-conservative... Them wanting a smaller state is probably the most reasonable policies out of all. They literally advocate for spending the oil money now and decreasing taxation to everyone, as well as removing inheritance and property tax
@andreehobrak1425
@andreehobrak1425 2 ай бұрын
always.
@Mosern1977
@Mosern1977 2 ай бұрын
@@deounivers7663 - social democracy has nothing to do with same-sex marriage. Investing in infrastructure is probably the best use of the oil-money the government could ever use it on. Unlike today, where it is spent on everything else. Tax cuts are also something sorely needed, if Norway had Denmark's social welfare model, Norway wouldn't even need income or wealth tax. The fact ordinary Norwegians are about as rich as anyone else in Western Europe is a testament to the bad governance of Norway.
@sundhaug92
@sundhaug92 2 ай бұрын
1973
@L_U-K_E
@L_U-K_E 2 ай бұрын
The Norwegians can see what is happening in their neighbour Sweden.
@iesroo
@iesroo 2 ай бұрын
Have you heard how foreign Oslo is already? 😮! I have heard that they are going to be a minority in Oslo VERY soon and it will get much worse, and fast, if nothing is done, and also fast. There might be no Norwegians left in the whole country, is this what you (well this applies to the whole Europe really) want you, your family, present and future generations of Norwegians to experience?
@donovanlocust1106
@donovanlocust1106 2 ай бұрын
Are they getting a lot of immigrants like Sweden?
@niklasvilhelm7247
@niklasvilhelm7247 2 ай бұрын
​@@donovanlocust1106no
@iesroo
@iesroo 2 ай бұрын
@@donovanlocust1106 Yes
@melcadman
@melcadman 2 ай бұрын
​@@iesrooSays who?! Any actual proof of this, eh, racist slur? Perhaps if Europe were conscious of the need to 'home grow' their own younger population, immigration wouldn't have happened? Who is going to look after all the ageing and sickly Norwegians?!
@Abelka252
@Abelka252 2 ай бұрын
Norwegian here but i would describe Frp and Høyre as “hard right”. They are just right wing
@trollpikken6907
@trollpikken6907 2 ай бұрын
Hard to even call them right wing. Both are socially democrat and support the welfare state. Some wish to open for the possibility for a private sector but none of them want to remove the public sector.
@puNktumTV
@puNktumTV 2 ай бұрын
høyre is more center, frp a bit right of them. but on a global stage, both of them are almost left if you compare with other FAR RIGHT WING parties. same on the left with AP etc. AP basically is center. Venstre, center. etc.
@mxyplex
@mxyplex 8 күн бұрын
Calling Frp hard right is like calling arbeiderpartiet radical left.
@DillaryHuff
@DillaryHuff Күн бұрын
To be fair, people who are on the radical left would describe it as hard right 😅
@johnmartin17t
@johnmartin17t 2 ай бұрын
I think Norway saw what happened with the crime rate in Sweden and chose the right-wing because of that.
@marcussver620
@marcussver620 2 ай бұрын
true
@selfpreservationsociety
@selfpreservationsociety 2 ай бұрын
You don't say ,are you sure
@itsyaboi1245
@itsyaboi1245 2 ай бұрын
The Swedish crimerate spiked around 2014-16 and because of the syrian refugee crisis and has been steady/falling since so that is a bad explanation for the current rise in the progress party since last election in 2022
@BornKafir
@BornKafir 2 ай бұрын
​@@anantnigam1639Christians. Don't forget Europeans were pegans until middle eastern religion was forced on everyone.
@bookinsights1092
@bookinsights1092 2 ай бұрын
Nah, Norwegians saw the Speed video in Oslo and thought - "Too many monkeys in Oslo."
@languist
@languist 2 ай бұрын
I'm Norwegian, and FrP isn't "hard-right" lol... it's one of the softest right-wing parties in Europe that you can imagine...
@CM-ey7nq
@CM-ey7nq 2 ай бұрын
Sloppy reporting.
@viggoholmsen7203
@viggoholmsen7203 Ай бұрын
Not the first time, unfortunately.
@latviabalkanumuzika1514
@latviabalkanumuzika1514 2 ай бұрын
Greetings to Norway ❤ from Latvia 🇱🇻
@languist
@languist 2 ай бұрын
Waves back to Latvia 🇱🇻 from Norway 🇳🇴 😎
@snefokk_i_heiene
@snefokk_i_heiene 2 ай бұрын
thank you
@elvenkind6072
@elvenkind6072 2 ай бұрын
Greetings back to Latvia from Norway! :) Wish a nice week for you and yours.
@Helge891
@Helge891 Ай бұрын
As a Norwegian, I just want to say that the Progress Party is far from an hard right party on an international scale.
@davidfoss7721
@davidfoss7721 6 күн бұрын
The rise has been even stronger since this video was posted. Some of the latest prognosis put the progress party as high as 25,3% while the labour party is down to 17,5% making the progress party the biggest in Norway, while the labour party is battling the worst results ever since they first started polling.
@MacBolzack
@MacBolzack 2 күн бұрын
And even higher after your comment: 27.7 % - meanwhile Labour got 14.1 %
@frankjohansen3132
@frankjohansen3132 2 ай бұрын
Due to Sweden have allowed so many immigrants where there are individuals who are hardcore criminals, the criminality and access to weapon and drugs have increased dramatically, and Swedens is a hub for criminals to establish themselves in the neighboring countries including Norway. Young people are recruited to this criminal environment because they are under the criminal minimum age. The progressive party (FrP) in Norway have warned about it, but the current prime minister in Norway from the labour party have talked about how norwegians have to adopt to the immigrants instead of immigrants adopting to norwegians and it`s culture. So there you go, naive idiots in charge.
@Solstice261
@Solstice261 2 ай бұрын
And so the progress party will descend and smite all vile scum with their holy light and give Sweden to Norway. Very coherent, you know, this is why most people hate the far right, a bit to obsessed with lying
@CJ-fs1zr
@CJ-fs1zr 2 ай бұрын
It’s funny how you guys are scared of Africans and middle eastern and Hispanic 😢ppl talking over europe and North America 😂but it’s too late in couple decades it will Happen even if immigration is reduced
@Fluxwux
@Fluxwux 2 ай бұрын
Its not that all crime in Norway comes from Sweden. Norway have themselves one of the biggest immigrant populations per capita in Europe as well with major integration problems in suburbs, lots of their own gangs that is cooperating with Swedish gangs and there is a huge demand for drugs in Norway - Oslo is among the top cities in Europe for coke usage (IIRC Zurich and London is only ranked higher) and weed usage in Norway is also higher than Sweden, Finland, Denmark etc - not to mention that Norway is a very rich country and there are lots of pull factors to commit lots of crime in Norway due to wealth and laughably low criminal sentencing. Norwegians should stop doing drugs that fuels the gangs, manage their integration better and realize that they also have a brewing internal gang problem that is set to reach “Swedish conditions” in the very near future if nothing is done.
@Blue_red
@Blue_red 2 ай бұрын
classic trope of blaming all of your country's woes on immigrants instead of actually fixing the social services and the economy, people have forgotten what happened 80 years ago when a government blamed all of its incompetencies on a particular group of people💀
@nikolai7218
@nikolai7218 2 ай бұрын
@@Blue_redyes because Norway needs to fix its economy and social services. What an idiot.
@CLaw-tb5gg
@CLaw-tb5gg 2 ай бұрын
The elephant in the room is, as ever, immigration. Electorates across Europe seem to growing quite weary of it. I’m not sure this is even necessarily right-wing (there’s no reason one couldn’t be an anti-immigration socialist, for instance), never mind far-right. My own opinion on it is complex (immigration has become an economic necessity whether we like it or not due to falling native birthrates, so our choice has become a fundamental shake-up of the economy to address the cause of said birthrates or for it to continue, and no party seems to have the stomach for the former), but for parties to ignore that this is what the electorate clearly desires seems pretty undemocratic.
@EthanD1997
@EthanD1997 2 ай бұрын
Immigration is not a necessity. Our means of production are more productive and advanced requiring less labour than ever and the workforce is doubled since now both genders work full time. It's just that western economies in their current form where-in there is constant growth which directly translates into increased wealth for only the rich requires this immigration. Regular people would be far better off financially and materially with less immigration. Don't drink the corporatist cool-aid.
@diogorodrigues747
@diogorodrigues747 2 ай бұрын
The elephant in the room, that no one wants to discuss, is the demographic crisis. "Mass immigration" is just a consequencs of low birth rates.
@Victorvondoom9159
@Victorvondoom9159 Ай бұрын
Even immigration is too broad a generalisation people have no problem with EU citizens migrating inside the Union, even the massive influx of Ukrainians hasn't caused any problems whatsoever, the problem is incompatible people from Africa and the Middle east we need to say that clearly to avoid misunderstandings because the problem isn't just those who come as immigrants the 2nd 3rd and 4th generation are as much of a problem as the first
@nielskorpel8860
@nielskorpel8860 5 күн бұрын
@@Victorvondoom9159 Can we have a civil discussion about this? Where is the line between saying that people are evil based on where they come from, and actual concern? I am asking because I wonder how helpful it is to tell that corner of earth that they are scum because of where they come from. If we are looking now at Syria, the better things will go there in the months ahead, the higher the chance is that Syrian refugees will go back home. Maybe they -- having been used to our western values a little bit -- can make their country work a little freer, a little more humane -- than before. But that requires that we don't mispush Syria now with our own interests, and it requires that those refugees have felt freedom and humanity while they were in our nations. And if things don't go as much better as can be, we will continue to see people flee from a place that does not treat its humans well. It would be a shame if that worse timeline comes to be, partly, becuase we refuse to treat them as we would like to treat ourselves. So is this really helpful? I am happy that the populists are getting more descriptive of their feelings, but I keep wondering about that. That is not to say we should ignore how we've been treating the bottom half own societies, our public services (including police), or our integration policies. I don't want to distract from the issues you may have dealth with. But I just wonder if it does the world any good to punch down on others who have their own major issues to deal with. Doesn't that just make the world a shittyer place we still have to live in anyway?
@starseeker1334
@starseeker1334 2 ай бұрын
Ok so we had far right, now we have soft and hard right?
@MidWitPride
@MidWitPride 2 ай бұрын
Not to mention the spooky liquid, solid, gas and plasma right
@starseeker1334
@starseeker1334 2 ай бұрын
​@@MidWitPride you forgot the right superposition
@starseeker1334
@starseeker1334 2 ай бұрын
@@SDDT24 dont forget populist right and the alt right
@gabriealdrue
@gabriealdrue 2 ай бұрын
Just call it the "populist right" and be done with it,it describes nearly all "far right" political parties without making an assertion about their place on the political axis.
@vx8431
@vx8431 2 ай бұрын
Got to make shit up to throw mud at anyone right of Mao in todays world.
@keyboarddancers7751
@keyboarddancers7751 2 ай бұрын
I automatically filter out the terms "far" or "hard" when listening to political discourse.
@bamaramify
@bamaramify 2 ай бұрын
Ive noticed TLDR tries to say hard right on anything Right. But when it's left they say mid centrist maybe a little left
@xt3hlux793
@xt3hlux793 2 ай бұрын
I mean there are no big "hard/far/extrem left" parties in europe that are relevent. I am sure if a country would have a communist party in their gouverment they would call it herd or extream left
@LuKing2
@LuKing2 2 ай бұрын
Most western democracies don't have a popular leftwing party though, while the far right has been on the rise almost everywhere
@bamaramify
@bamaramify 2 ай бұрын
@@LuKing2 id say that's your perspective but it's ok
@federiconoguera1162
@federiconoguera1162 2 ай бұрын
​@@bamaramifyBut he kinda has a point. The case in point being Norway. Labour used to be left, but it's a centrist party nowadays, that's why it's so easy for it to turn right. And TLDR usually calls actual left parties, like actual right parties, far left.
@soundscape26
@soundscape26 2 ай бұрын
No, for France they said hard left or far left a ton of times
@AreEia
@AreEia 2 ай бұрын
As a Norwegian I can say that there is no real difference between the Labour party and the Conservative party. They share most of the same policies in reality, with the only real difference being their rethoric and talking points. Both have sold out the Norwegian people in favour of the EU and demented "green shift" policy(Norway by far was already one of the most green nations in the world for the last 100 years, as our industry was powered by hydropower). Yet both the Conservatives and Labour have admitted to actively rasing our prices by exporting our power, and raising the prices of electricity for every Norwegian and especially the industry, to in their own words; "make wind energy conscievable in Norway". So while our industry thrived, and our people paid fairly for our power, wind power was not seen as viable, now to get windpoer viable, they are destoying our industry and making families struggle. Both parties also opened up the sale of Norwegian land/property to foreign investors, and yet the government and state had to rely on DN reporters to investigate how mcuh awas actually foreign owned(wich was found out to be 44 billion kr!) On top of this we are seeing industry flee the country, investors holding back, and Norway now having some of the lowest ammount of entrepreneurs and new businesses of any European country, while the currency is at its weakest, and these same politicians are wasting billions on a bureaucratic system were people are told to "not work too hard"! These same politicians are also increasing their own salary and incentives year by year! I honestly could go on and on! But overall, these politicians and these parties are quislings, that have sold our natiom off to please a EU, we are not even members off!!!
@dtrellis
@dtrellis 2 ай бұрын
Norway is a huge oil and gas exporter, so by definition its not a 'green' nation
@melcadman
@melcadman 2 ай бұрын
I very much doubt you could validate what seems to be a cynically rather right wing view! Somehow I find it hard to conceive of any Norwegians being poor in the same sense this applies to anyone else in even the richest parts of the EU! Are you being a little greedy?!
@AreEia
@AreEia 2 ай бұрын
@@dtrellis Domestically we are, and we dont even factor in the carbon capture of our forests and marshes in our climate accounting. As for exporting oil, unless you want people to die of starvation, or not be able to heat their homes, drive to work, then you need to come up with a viable alternative. Nobody has yet, so oil is still important.
@AreEia
@AreEia 2 ай бұрын
@@melcadman Wow, that was a whole lot of "I feel" without any substance or arguments behind it. Dont think I ever said we were poor anywhere. Do you have any actual input to my gripe with our political parties, or do you just enjoy faux moralizing on your spare time?
@melcadman
@melcadman 2 ай бұрын
@@AreEia A tad cynical! Like most people in the poorer fringes of Europe I'm very proud of the way Norway took control of its resources and managed to ensure its benefits went to Norway. If you know anything about Scotland, where I have always lived, I witnessed our substantial oil and fuel resources being sold entirely to American megacorporations by our near fascist PM of the time, Thatcher. Why, oh why, we didn't demand independence and simply secede then I'll never know! You were, then, the role model for most leftish people in Scotland and your creation of a collaborative 'common weal' of social welfare was the model we have tried to use as at least a basis for Scotland's (slightly,) devolved government within Britain more recently. What kind of 'substance' or 'evidence' do I need to 'provide' for my view?
@incurableromantic4006
@incurableromantic4006 2 ай бұрын
I see TLDR has joined the coordinated shift to using "irregular migration" rather then the more accurate "illegal".
@Skeprah
@Skeprah 2 ай бұрын
It's because claiming asylum isn't illegal, yet it is still one of the things the right doesn't like so it is better to use the umbrella term "irregular migration" as that would include illegal immigration and asylum seeking.
@Skeprah
@Skeprah 2 ай бұрын
@@incurableromantic4006 Asylum is not considered illegal since they have legal processes for it.
@thebaker8637
@thebaker8637 2 ай бұрын
@@incurableromantic4006by international law, ie treaties that countries signed up to and are bound by, refugees have the right to enter another country to seek asylum even if they do not have visas or documentation. you may dislike this but it is 100% legal to do this, so calling it illegal migration is wrong.
@Emperor_Nagrom
@Emperor_Nagrom 2 ай бұрын
​@@Skeprah Asylum is supposed to be applied for in the nearest safe country to your origin country, not halfway across the world so you can receive welfare and not work.
@thebaker8637
@thebaker8637 2 ай бұрын
@@Emperor_Nagrom what you think the law should be is not what the law is. again, you can disagree all you want with it, but in general, according to the current treaties that are actually signed by actual countries, this is not a requirement. you can wish for that to change, but it’s currently not the case, so it’s still not illegal to seek asylum like this.
@exelibrium
@exelibrium 2 ай бұрын
One of Norways most serious problems is the bloated public administration. 35 % of all workers in Norway are employed by the government. Too many of them are in administrative roles and not operative. These jobs dont produce any value, but are rather an obstacle to productive work in the public and private alike. Add to taht we have higher proportins of welfare recipients than our neighbouring countries.
@luisfilipe2023
@luisfilipe2023 2 ай бұрын
Economically leftwing and socially rightwing seems to be the political recipe Europe wants
@Christian_TH
@Christian_TH 2 ай бұрын
Frp is libertarian on economic issues, but I agree on a more broadly european scope
@Precipiceofwind
@Precipiceofwind 2 ай бұрын
There are no "left wing" economics here.
@luisfilipe2023
@luisfilipe2023 Ай бұрын
@@Precipiceofwind well interventionist whatever you want to call it
@GalacticNovaOverlord
@GalacticNovaOverlord Ай бұрын
@@luisfilipe2023 Which isn't left wing. It's one of the biggest propaganda victories the US has achieved on its territories.
@mightymort915
@mightymort915 Ай бұрын
Most norwegian parties do not care about the regular man, and definitely do not care about the people who have sunken below the poverty line. Anger and a want for change is one of the big reasons why the Progress Party is on the rise. The negligence of our people and big spending on immigration is the main causes.
@aaronpaul9188
@aaronpaul9188 2 ай бұрын
I like how "maybe we shouldnt be an islamic country" and "norway should be for Norwegians" is labeled far right and then everyone wonders why these parties keep surging.
@diogorodrigues747
@diogorodrigues747 2 ай бұрын
Well, that is populist by nature though. And absolutely is far right, ethnocracies are something that 20th century fascists would be proud of.
@longiusaescius2537
@longiusaescius2537 2 ай бұрын
@diogorodrigues747 now criticize Israel and the rest of the world for it (you won't euro hater)
@aaronpaul9188
@aaronpaul9188 2 ай бұрын
@@diogorodrigues747 Opposing ethnic states (which you dont, since you support decolonization. You only oppose it for europeans because youre deeply racist) is the height of privilege. Its a position someone whose never been threatened can hold.
@aaronpaul9188
@aaronpaul9188 2 ай бұрын
@@longiusaescius2537 Yea, im more than happy to criticize israel, but weird red herring.
@diogorodrigues747
@diogorodrigues747 2 ай бұрын
@@longiusaescius2537 You know that the countries with the largest numbers of immigrants are not European countries, right? Get real. By the way, I'm not a Euro hater, I'm myself a European. Leave your bubble.
@TheRatOnFire_
@TheRatOnFire_ 2 ай бұрын
Illegal migration. Not irregular migration.
@Skeprah
@Skeprah 2 ай бұрын
But claiming asylum isn't illegal and the right doesn't like it so irregular is a better descriptor.
@khlaps
@khlaps 2 ай бұрын
@@Skeprah Asylum is abused nowadays. That’s how my cousins made it to America
@TheRatOnFire_
@TheRatOnFire_ 2 ай бұрын
@@Skeprah Asylum was always different. What "irregular" migration refers to is the boat crossers. Which is illegal.
@Mylris
@Mylris Ай бұрын
mass migration is a huge problem in Norway. I really hope the progress party wins. The main problem with that party is that they have been losing seats for the past few elections.
@Sloppygator9309
@Sloppygator9309 2 ай бұрын
Still waiting to hear what the definition of an “irregular migrant” is
@hello855
@hello855 2 ай бұрын
People who didn't apply for a family or work visa. Illegal immigrants are included. But refugees and asylum seekers from third world countries who technically followed the legal process are still included in the kind of people that aren't considered desirable.
@soundscape26
@soundscape26 2 ай бұрын
An asylum seeker basically
@PappaTom-ub3ht
@PappaTom-ub3ht Ай бұрын
You got your answer. No need to wait anymore.
@Sloppygator9309
@Sloppygator9309 Ай бұрын
@@PappaTom-ub3ht I actually liked his comment lol he was the first one to explain it to me and it was very informative
@JW-do2wc
@JW-do2wc 2 ай бұрын
Better to be RIGHT than wrong.
@Darca1n
@Darca1n Ай бұрын
Better look elsewhere then, frp are shortsighted twats for the most part.
@ThymeHere
@ThymeHere 6 күн бұрын
As a Norwegian, I love seeing high effort videos about my own nation. (Of course I do but still)
@Riksadvokaten
@Riksadvokaten Ай бұрын
As a Norwegian guy i see the politics change to a more right lead side because the people see that the tax rate is too high and the Norwegian currency is losing its value. Therefore we need some more effective ways to steer the country so we don’t lose important capital and it all goes too shit.
@jordonbooman9913
@jordonbooman9913 2 ай бұрын
LOOL TLDR has to one of these populist right wing videos every month.
@gohanssj48
@gohanssj48 2 ай бұрын
It's the only thing happening in Europe. Most or the other things is routine: inflation, regulation, etc
@sup3rAVATARtlafAN
@sup3rAVATARtlafAN 2 ай бұрын
It’s happening a lot so
@andrewjordan4193
@andrewjordan4193 2 ай бұрын
I just read the Wiki entry for this party. Am struggling to see why it is "hard" right. Just one example: "During the national convention in May 2013, the party voted in favor of both same-sex marriage and same-sex adoption.The party has for several years been a proponent for legalizing blood donation for homosexuals.". The party does seem concerned about the Islamification of Norway, and Europe more generally. It is of course Islamism which is truly "hard right" (or in many respects "hard left", there is not such a difference). I don't blame people for being fed up with the notion that criticism of Islamic ideology is somehow racist: it is not.
@CJ-fs1zr
@CJ-fs1zr 2 ай бұрын
It’s funny how you guys are scared of Africans and middle eastern and Hispanic 😢ppl talking over europe and North America 😂but it’s too late in couple decades it will Happen even if immigration is reduced. It’s karma for colonialism
@Fluxwux
@Fluxwux 2 ай бұрын
Homonationalism is a common populist strategy used by far right parties in several progressive/agnostic Western European countries (countries without any significant hardcore Christian right - meaning LGBT, Abortion etc is non issues that almost everyone supports or doesn’t care about no matter how conservative they are, so its political suicide to rally against it) as a way to target Muslims or paint them as a threat to the LGBT movement and women’s rights etc. While I agree that Islamism is a poison and dangerous, just like hardcore fundamentalist Christians, FrP seems to always group Islamists together with all Muslims which is extremely dangerous and wrong. They live off scapegoating all problems on immigrants and Muslims and mostly use LGBT/Women’s rights issues as a bat to attack all Muslims, while they also cant be against LGBT because that is very unpopular. Divide and conquer is their strategy and will support anything they can win votes on or use as a weapon towards certain minorities. They are also climate deniers, almost libertarian (very right wing economically) and Andres Breivik was a member of FrP and supported their anti Islam stance. Kind of the definition of far right populists (of the secular Western European kind)
@askosefamerve
@askosefamerve 2 ай бұрын
Being socially okay with the existance of LGBT people doesn't stop them from being far right. Though, it's certainly a plus. I could consider voting for them if some of their policies didn't made me cross them out.
@Snp2024
@Snp2024 2 ай бұрын
​@@askosefamerve cope
@peterfireflylund
@peterfireflylund 2 ай бұрын
Blood from gays is riskier (we can’t screen them donated blood for every existing pathogen - and we don’t know all of them - and gays do statistically have a riskier lifestyle) so I’m not sure that was a good idea. It sounds nice, of course.
@philip4588
@philip4588 Ай бұрын
Labour party last pic in video: Now it is ordinary people turn. The norwegian political system is getting out of date, and need to see to Switzerland to direct voting.
@Birukoff
@Birukoff 2 ай бұрын
I am an immigrant to Norway. After I witnessed with my own eyes crowds calling for extermination of jews, left-wing politicians addressing these crowds without much hesitation, and essentially all Norwegian media keeping quiet about it, I myself joined the "anti-immigrant" Progress Party a couple of months ago.
@Solstice261
@Solstice261 2 ай бұрын
I am guessing you are talking about the protests in defence of Palestine, which are not in fact against Jews, a lot of Jews are also Palestinians in fact, but you are a long time voter of the right and probably far right, you believe those lies without a second thought and assume people protesting for peace are devils because they dare to think about others in a way you aren't able, the kind of person that during the protests against Vietnam or iran would have accused protesters for wanting the death of the US or something, overall a disgusting human being built on lies to spread lies
@krisdaschwab912
@krisdaschwab912 2 ай бұрын
This party would probably deport you anyway, just like Konfederacja in Poland would.
@Mosern1977
@Mosern1977 2 ай бұрын
@@krisdaschwab912 - of course not. Only the useless shitty migrants, not the good ones.
@Jeremiah88
@Jeremiah88 2 ай бұрын
@@krisdaschwab912 no frp is not that right as kon
@Jeremiah88
@Jeremiah88 2 ай бұрын
@@Solstice261 So i assume you supports two state solution and hostage deal?
@dannydunzo1275
@dannydunzo1275 Ай бұрын
Dude taking a breath before each and during each sentence is sending me man
@jakubekch.3621
@jakubekch.3621 2 ай бұрын
TLDR rly has to stop with calling everything right of cimmunists hard/far right Its sad to see
@puNktumTV
@puNktumTV 2 ай бұрын
more clickbaity and creates more engagement in the comment section = generating more views = more money = more of these titles.
@diogorodrigues747
@diogorodrigues747 2 ай бұрын
Because they maybe are hard right in the end?
@silverdoctor6298
@silverdoctor6298 2 ай бұрын
So what is the Progressive Party if not right-wing or far right? Centre-right? The Conservative Party is centre-left? The Progressive Party is described as a national-conservative, economic liberal (or worse: libertarian), right-wing populist party; how would you position it on the political spectrum?
@lemvoe
@lemvoe Ай бұрын
@@silverdoctor6298 right-wing or centre-right. Libertarian is centre-left to centre at best; economic liberal is considered capitalism; national conservatism says it already; right-wing. It's a centre-right to right-wing
@adne4336
@adne4336 2 ай бұрын
I think it’s important to state that the progress party is for more moderate than most other right-wing parties in Europe. I’d compare them to the libertarian wing of the British Conservative Party
@NoelNaggis
@NoelNaggis 2 ай бұрын
What? Far right label no longer working for barely conservative parties, it's "hard right now" Let's see if it works out
@mhx6437
@mhx6437 2 ай бұрын
Yeah our "hard right" party would be counted as far left in USA XD
@CJ-fs1zr
@CJ-fs1zr 2 ай бұрын
@@mhx6437lol america is more progressive in reproductive rights then norway and support immigration more then norway left wing parties.’ Norway being left wing is false theyre right wing the way they treat immigrants
@jonathanj8458
@jonathanj8458 8 күн бұрын
I’m Norwegian, and I would say voting for FrP is simply voting for common sense. Calling them «hard right» puts your ignorance on display. You’re very obviously commenting on Norwegian politics while lacking knowledge on every area of it, and reporting with a clear bias. Ever wondered why all the successful people flee our country, and why no one sees it as worthwhile to invest in Norwegian innovation? Also please go learn a little more about Islam before implying people are racist for wanting it out of their country.
@rakgi
@rakgi 2 ай бұрын
"let's focus on our own citizen and their needs" RACIST!! FASCIST!! YOU ARE FAR RIGHT!!!! Ridiculous.
@kapsi
@kapsi 2 ай бұрын
Where in the video do they say this?
@dsali7725
@dsali7725 11 күн бұрын
Nobody's saying this besides the voices in your heads💀
@ErmisSouldatos
@ErmisSouldatos 2 ай бұрын
TLDR trying to do the "don't call people extremists just because they are slightly less left wing than you" challenge for more than 5 minutes: impossible level
@davidsousalopes2391
@davidsousalopes2391 2 ай бұрын
I was in Oslo two weeks ago and was surprised to see the lack of native Norwegians on the streets. The right wing it rising for the same reason it is rising everywhere
@Solstice261
@Solstice261 2 ай бұрын
Oslo has always had a lot of immigrant population, it's the bloody capital, and Norway is in the Schengen zone, a lot of people from Europe go to live in Norway and usually end up in Oslo, immigration in Norway hasn't really changed much throughout the year since you don't get illegal immigrants and refugees running away from war, you just get normal people going to cover job vacants once they can secure a visa, add on top of that tourism and all that and of course you see a lot of non-natives or people that look like non natives because people sometimes marry and have kids with immigrants, I know shocking, you need to stop seeing an evil immigrant everywhere Norway is literally one of the countries that straight up doesn't have any problems of immigration, that some parties are using it as a scapegoat doesn't make ot true
@Mosern1977
@Mosern1977 2 ай бұрын
Just wrong part of the city. Oslo is a very divided city, the further west you go the more native Norwegians you'll see. Some places you wouldn't think there are any immigrants at all in Norway.
@You_are_wrong99
@You_are_wrong99 2 ай бұрын
what a surprise! I was also in oslo and other big cities, I saw a lot of native Norwegians.
@CJ-fs1zr
@CJ-fs1zr 2 ай бұрын
@@You_are_wrong99These Europeans are so paranoid of immigrants LOL
@You_are_wrong99
@You_are_wrong99 2 ай бұрын
@@CJ-fs1zr people like him are small % of population in Norway. while immigrants can come with some issue they don't demonize them.
@thevillager8339
@thevillager8339 Ай бұрын
The norwegian system is rotten to the core with decadence and miswill. There is no donation limit. The lobbyists aren't registered. The corrupt never get punish or flushed out, and the high thing attracts the greediest and most power hungry.
@braziliantsar
@braziliantsar 2 ай бұрын
"Hard right" new term has dropped boys
@martin.ellingsen
@martin.ellingsen 2 ай бұрын
The Norwegian Progress Party is literally about as right wing as moderate democrats in the US
@Martin-mr4ui
@Martin-mr4ui 2 ай бұрын
democrats are not anti immigrants, or pro christianity lol
@alexanderenright3460
@alexanderenright3460 2 ай бұрын
Norway was mentioned 🇳🇴🇳🇴🇳🇴🇳🇴❤️
@Capt.Thunder
@Capt.Thunder 16 күн бұрын
"Right Wing" and "Progress" is a contradiction in terms. You cannot be progressive and properly right wing. Although I know that for a lot of people, it's slang for "not left wing".
@nostro1940
@nostro1940 2 ай бұрын
But i thought diversity was our strength
@Bidmartinlo
@Bidmartinlo Ай бұрын
As a Norwegian I have no idea how to vote in the opinion polls or who even gets to vote. The opinion polls are clearly managed democracy, not trustworthy.
@KvaGram
@KvaGram 2 ай бұрын
Why was the Red party missing from your graph?
@eyvindr.
@eyvindr. 2 ай бұрын
They are insignificant
@KvaGram
@KvaGram 2 ай бұрын
@@eyvindr. False.
@CJ-fs1zr
@CJ-fs1zr 2 ай бұрын
@@KvaGramThey don’t win elections Stop being dense They should win tho because they’re the best party for norway
@eyvindr.
@eyvindr. 2 ай бұрын
@@KvaGram they are basically communists. We will never allow communists to take over
@tomzitiger
@tomzitiger 2 ай бұрын
@@KvaGramthey werent the top 6
@DJPJ.
@DJPJ. 2 ай бұрын
Yay! A video about Norway 🇧🇻
@Bergamot88
@Bergamot88 2 ай бұрын
The constant left wing bias is such a stain on this channel.
@drmodestoesq
@drmodestoesq 2 ай бұрын
You mean extreme, radical, far left bias?
@hurricane_party
@hurricane_party 2 ай бұрын
Yeah TDLR sucks, I stopped watching them ages ago because they're such "hard left" leftie cucks. Occasionally one of their shyte videos randomly appears in my recommended videos.
@soundscape26
@soundscape26 2 ай бұрын
They are pretty moderate... maybe it's you that's quite a bit to the right
@klanox-uq1lt
@klanox-uq1lt Ай бұрын
@@soundscape26 they were making videos on how Kamla Harris could win Alaska or Texas
@soundscape26
@soundscape26 Ай бұрын
@klanox-uq1lt They make quite a few videos thar aren't needed but they get the views and the money.
@CarpetHater
@CarpetHater Ай бұрын
As a norwegian here i can tell that it's a mix of different things, alot of it is due to an increase in electricity prices, food prices and general inflation which they have tackled extremely poorly, with also a combination of setting into motion big expensive projects that are just a waste of money, like building big offshore windplatforms, connecting the oil platforms to the main powergrid and other stuff, meanwhile they are shutting down schools and the amount of poor people are growing, which is exactly what they went to election on decreasing. The progress party doesn't have the solution to all the problems, but they are atleast acknowledging a few steps that would atleast turn a bad situation slightly better. Also immigration has caused problems in certain parts of Oslo, and the PP has always been for lowering the number of new immigrants.
@BogusBogusi
@BogusBogusi 2 ай бұрын
That fake Letter is CRAZY Though.
@RichardCranium.
@RichardCranium. 2 ай бұрын
I think it is real. There are millions of immigrants in Europe who think that.
@filipeinarberge3316
@filipeinarberge3316 2 ай бұрын
Weird handwriting. Looks left-handed
@rayenbel1554
@rayenbel1554 Ай бұрын
@sdrawkcabUK its not
@purplemarsmotionpictures
@purplemarsmotionpictures 5 күн бұрын
The Progress Party showed that they could be a part of a ruling government under Siv Jensen. Before that they were considered a wasted vote, because many of the center-right parties refused to form a government with them or give support to a minority government with them. Norwegians generally don't just vote for their prefered party, but for their prefered coalition, and tactically place their votes to make the coalition closest to their political alignments. Up until recently the Norwegian Green Party and The Red Part were also considered a wasted vote but they are now considered serious smaller parties. Which means Labour has 2 new parties they can lose support to, without it meaning that voters have turned their back on the coalition.
@TheTanveerGaming
@TheTanveerGaming 2 ай бұрын
Not far right, just right, and not wrong
@fesyuki
@fesyuki 2 ай бұрын
Okay can you please stop babying out a topic and actually grow up a bit?
@TheAmericanPrometheus
@TheAmericanPrometheus 2 ай бұрын
@@fesyuki anime pfp = worthless opinion
@fesyuki
@fesyuki 2 ай бұрын
@@TheAmericanPrometheus cringe response grow up
@TheTanveerGaming
@TheTanveerGaming 2 ай бұрын
@@fesyuki it's true, ya weeb
@soundscape26
@soundscape26 2 ай бұрын
@@TheAmericanPrometheus You have cartoonish countryballs on your banner... not sure how serious one should take your opinions based on that. 😂
@vcrsalesman2606
@vcrsalesman2606 2 ай бұрын
“There are two main thing you need to know about Norwegian politics” I actually don’t need to know anything about Norwegian politics.
@Solstice261
@Solstice261 2 ай бұрын
The same as in all countries, the established parties haven't been doing much and don't take any stances on anything so eventually people do a protest vote, parties loose votes when they govern, the only parties that don't suffer that are the extreme ones since they can lie their way to the top
@mentalmarvin
@mentalmarvin 2 ай бұрын
We're lucky that the right wing populist party of Norway isn't as extreme as the right wing populists in other countries. Although I would never vote for them, we need them at 10-20% to balance the extreme minority. Sweden didn't have any populist party, that's why their nazi party grew so big, luckily they've moderated since then and have caused all the other parties to change their immigration policies aswell.
@Stoddardian
@Stoddardian 2 ай бұрын
There's nothing extreme about not wanting to be replaced.
@idgaf7963
@idgaf7963 2 ай бұрын
Europe is for Europeans
@crim-jim6814
@crim-jim6814 7 күн бұрын
@@StoddardianRandom ass comment
@edsiles4297
@edsiles4297 2 ай бұрын
A far-right party named Progress. Interesting. As usual, it turns out blaming a scapegoat works ...
@Reverendterminatormusic
@Reverendterminatormusic 29 күн бұрын
No party in norway are far right. we all live from the oil and welfare. those on the left want the state to have full control and maximum taxes, those on the right, want the state to have a little less control, and a little less of taxes.
@naarutv5402
@naarutv5402 2 ай бұрын
Everything is hard right to you. So tiring...
@nicolaifr4905
@nicolaifr4905 3 күн бұрын
They’re at 27,7% now😂
@TheHellishOtherWriter
@TheHellishOtherWriter 2 ай бұрын
Any current opinions on the Progress Party? I know about them but I don't really know how Norwegians see them, would be interested in what people think!
@tessjuel
@tessjuel 2 ай бұрын
For the most part the left-right distinction doesn't really fit Norwegian politics but if we use it for the sake of argument, Fremskrittspartiet ("The Progress Party") is the most right leaning party in Norway. Compared to political parties in other countries, I'd say it's about the same as the centermost part of the British Tory party and towards the left side of the US Democrats but they aren't nearly as dogmatic and uncompromising as these British/US counterparts. That is, when it comes to rhetorics they often appear like a typical right-wing populist party with oversimplified "headline style" solutions and no real understanding of the complexities of an issue but their actual politics tend to be far more pragmatic than their propaganda. On the other side of the spectre we have Rødt ("Red"), a fairly small party with only eight representatives in the parliament. On that dubious left-to-right scale, they should maybe be placed a little bit left of Jeremy Corbyn but again, not nearly as dogmatic and uncompromising. The most extremist party we have in Norway is probably Senterpartiet ("The Centrist Party") and yes, that's exactly what they are, extreme centrists. (Extreme by Norwegian standards that is, not by international ones.) Please don't ask, I don't even know how to begin to explain this to foreigners.
@ChrMuslimThor
@ChrMuslimThor 2 ай бұрын
Like the other person said. Populist, somewhat simple in their message and anti immigration (mostly anti refugees) Personally, I don't really like them that much, but they can be cooperated with, and several of their politicians are reasonable people you can reach a compromise with.
@matslunde6238
@matslunde6238 Ай бұрын
And, please, defind populism before you use it! The Norwegian progress party (FRP) have had pretty much the same politic seens the 80's. The same can not be said about the labour party....
@TheJensss
@TheJensss 2 ай бұрын
It should be noted that all Norwegian politics are to the left compared to countries like the US. So voting far right in Norway is the same as voting for democrats in the US The difference between parties in Norway are also extremely small. If you compare AP and H 99% of their politics are the same...
@Solstice261
@Solstice261 2 ай бұрын
Yeah well, but that is because the US has a neoliberal far right and a borderline deranged far right that doesn't believe in climate change science, thinks criminality is genetic (and therefore eugenics) thinks itself superior to everyone else, doesn't believe in public healthcare or any short of welfare, compared to less welfare that European parties spout since they are starting from a different position The problem is given enough time, a far right European parties will slowly bring all parties towards the right to since those parties will try to win their votes, and show the far right parties moves more towards the right and eventually you get the democrat and republican party, and I think something we should avoid as much as possible, having choice is a good thing I think
@CJ-fs1zr
@CJ-fs1zr 2 ай бұрын
Most US states not in the south is more progressive in reproductive rights then any countries in the world. The republican parties are more progressive on immigration then left wing party I. Norway because we take in more immigrants per capita no matter the administration. Also marijuna laws we are more tolerant. Norway strict on controlled substances
@oohforf6375
@oohforf6375 2 ай бұрын
Bro what??
@TheJensss
@TheJensss 2 ай бұрын
@@CJ-fs1zr That may be. I was just making a comparison of overall politics that is easy to understand for people that don't know Norwegian politics so well.
@TheJensss
@TheJensss 2 ай бұрын
@@oohforf6375 ?
@tailortelhais1744
@tailortelhais1744 2 ай бұрын
It's insane how good Støre and his cabinet are at shooting themselves in the foot and never learning from it. I doubt they actually have a chance to recover support, unless something specific that happens to be in their favour happens after the campaign gets underway after the summer. It's going to be interesting to see how far the government parties fall, though, and how the jostling for position is going to play out in relation to the likely winners, the Conservatives and Progress. As a leftist, I'm deeply disappointed that the protest vote against Labour and Centre doesn't translate into votes for other leftist parties, but instead for the most right-wing ones. Supporting the Conservatives does make a lot of sense in this circumstance: Norway has long been a stable democracy where power alternates between the centre-left and centre-right based on the (mis)fortunes of which of them happens to be in government. But why you would go for Progress over Red, Socialist Left, the Greens or even the Liberals is beyond me.
@Bobjectv4
@Bobjectv4 2 ай бұрын
context to other countries, all our parties are on the left side
@GalacticNovaOverlord
@GalacticNovaOverlord Ай бұрын
Not at all. The "left-wing" parties are capitalist.
@claymadness
@claymadness Ай бұрын
As a liberal and one who’s admired the Norwegian political system for years, a question for fellow liberals in Norway and the EU in general: Doesn’t the lack of assimilation actually go against the liberal disposition? While multiculturalism is certainly a net benefit to society, community ghettoisation (yes, partly pushed by a lack of an opportunity) certainly goes against the tenets of multiculturalism? Finally, imposing views that run contrary to the country’s fundamental principles is damaging to the local population and the country’s long-term social fabric, yes? In that case, why wouldn’t a liberal who agrees with one or more of these positions, not actually push to reform the policies and political messaging of centre/left parties or lend support to more conservative outfits (not all conservative politics is neo-Fascist)?
@MovieRiotHD
@MovieRiotHD 2 ай бұрын
Just another day in Europe
@o.3464
@o.3464 25 күн бұрын
The Progress Party was inspired by the legendary Mogens Glistrup's Progress Party in Denmark - which later turned into The Danish People's Party that kept a hardline on immigration from 2001 and more than a decade onwards
@jamesevans1890
@jamesevans1890 2 ай бұрын
The concern is over massive regular migration as well as irregular migration. Both change countries and populations.
@Solstice261
@Solstice261 2 ай бұрын
But Norway doesn't really have any though, their immigration has been fairly consistent take away a bit of a peak from the Ukrainian refugee crisis and I don't think anyone is against to those, their position being at the north of the EU surrounded by frozen waters and Sweden means immigrants don't really go there unless they are legal usually coming from Europe, with visas and everything
@CJ-fs1zr
@CJ-fs1zr 2 ай бұрын
You guys scared of minorities taking your women 😂 BBC We all know that’s the true fear of European “men”
@vilorviljar
@vilorviljar 8 күн бұрын
A Norwegian here, the Progress Party is NOT hard right. It’s barely right-wing if anything.
@johnsausby2987
@johnsausby2987 2 ай бұрын
Something that the British media seems not to understand is how relative politics are, I live in Norway and vote there. The conservatives or Høyre and the FrP which are the anti-immigration party are still far left of Labour or the Greens in the UK. Which to me means, the UK is currently run by far right extremists. And the last government was Høyre and FrP, it's barely a surge if they were popular enough to get into government in the previous election cycle to the last one. This is really not news.
@johnny9094
@johnny9094 2 ай бұрын
This is horseshit. Høyre/FRP are much further right than Labour.
@stercasmr7345
@stercasmr7345 2 ай бұрын
The FrP are not left of labour by far. They’re roughly on par with the conservatives.
@johnsausby2987
@johnsausby2987 2 ай бұрын
No they are not, would Labour increase benefits to the unemployed I line with what Norwegians get, nope. Frp would not reduce those benefits. And Labour are 100% bought by the capitalist lobbyists which is something that just isn't a thing in Norway. Frp are right wing on immigration. I am by no means a frp voter as an immigrant that would be stupid but they are left of even the greens in the UK simply because of the significant differences in political ideologies and the prevalence of the right wing press in the UK. If you have lived in both places for over 20 years you maybe would understand that
@shaebrown2872
@shaebrown2872 2 ай бұрын
@@johnsausby2987 being bought by corporate interests doesn't make a party right wing
@TokyoBalletReprise
@TokyoBalletReprise 2 ай бұрын
@@shaebrown2872 it does
@chasepup8591
@chasepup8591 Ай бұрын
i like how all of these European conservative parties are considered "far right" and then no one talks about the communist popular front in France
@JoeyFangaz
@JoeyFangaz 2 ай бұрын
Yup only hard/far right. Never far/hard left. 🧐
@NoanNorvang
@NoanNorvang 2 ай бұрын
Well there are far left parties, they just don't do well enough in elections that the TLDR team would include them in the vid
@ArkBlanc
@ArkBlanc 2 ай бұрын
@@NoanNorvang The current governing party, Arbeiderpartiet (AP) is left wing.
@weamibrahim2146
@weamibrahim2146 2 ай бұрын
​@@ArkBlancit's not far left by any means
@NoanNorvang
@NoanNorvang 2 ай бұрын
@@ArkBlanc the far left parti in Norway is Rødt (Red), AP is center-left to left wing
@askosefamerve
@askosefamerve 2 ай бұрын
Is far left making huge gains anywhere in Europe?
@johnhavardvalebrokk6151
@johnhavardvalebrokk6151 Ай бұрын
There's a very easy explaination to why FRP is getting popular. People are getting sick of being taxed to death on everything. Too expensive fuel, where people want to remove the tax there to reduce the fuel prices, reduce property tax and wealth tax, that's an easy one. I know it's only paid by the richest, however those who are considered "the rich" moved out of the country, and so there's no tax revenue at all from that. On top of that because they moved out, a lot of workers lost their jobs, and just put 2 and 2 together there. Because of raising taxes on the rich, they lost the tax revenue both from the rich AND from the people who'd work for their companies. The welfare state is getting less and less sustainable due to less taxpayers and more people on benefits to take care of.
@nathanaelhauger2036
@nathanaelhauger2036 2 ай бұрын
The progress party ( FRP) is not hard right!
@oliversherman2414
@oliversherman2414 2 ай бұрын
I'm British-Swedish and have got cousins from Norway
@khlaps
@khlaps 2 ай бұрын
“Why Hard Left is on the rise in TLDR”
@RangerCavil
@RangerCavil Ай бұрын
That "fake" letter doesn't seem to be fake currently. As we see them protesting for sharia law in Germany, Sweden and UK.
@ArnoldBertram-8
@ArnoldBertram-8 2 ай бұрын
Fantastic video🔥🔥! I have incurred so much losses trading on my own....I trade well on demo but I think the real market is manipulated.... Can anyone help me out or at least tell me what I'm doing wrong??
@stanleycyrus5
@stanleycyrus5 2 ай бұрын
Trading on a demo account can definitely feel similar to the real market, but there are some differences. It's important to remember that trading involves risks and it's normal to face looses sometimes. One piece of advice is to start small and gradually increase your investments as you gain more experience and confidence. It might also be helpful to seek guidance from experienced traders or do some research on different trading strategies.
@Graysonmatthew3544
@Graysonmatthew3544 2 ай бұрын
If you are trading without a professional guide... Ah, I laugh, because you will stay where you are or even suffer huge losses that will prevent you from trading, this has been one of the biggest problems for new traders.
@briankelvin3656
@briankelvin3656 2 ай бұрын
​I think l'm blessed if not I wouldn't have met someone who is as spectacular as expert mrs Fenella.. Highly recommended
@brendanicole5568
@brendanicole5568 2 ай бұрын
Wow, I'm surprised to see Fenella mentioned here as well. I didn't know she had been kind to so many people
@nottorainer
@nottorainer 2 ай бұрын
​I'm also a huge beneficiary of her.. I thought myself and my family were the only ones enjoying Fenella trade benefits
@ThymeHere
@ThymeHere 6 күн бұрын
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@Politicalhistorynerd5540
@Politicalhistorynerd5540 2 ай бұрын
I am a member of the progress party
@zeroluq87
@zeroluq87 2 ай бұрын
As a young person that lives in Norway I can say you missed one of the big reasons Frp is in the rise. Frp is coming to all of the local high schools in my county and asking us what we want from them and informing us about what they want. I would say that other party’s has something like this but instead of they coming to you, you got to come to them.
@FriendlierFetus
@FriendlierFetus 2 ай бұрын
Overraskar meg alltid over kor mange unge menneske, og spesielt unge menn, som er høgrevende når ein snakkar med dei. Kunne merka det starta så vidt då eg gjekk på vidaregåande. Det du seier gir meining; Frp er mykje meir engasjert blant dei unge enn andre parti.
@fesyuki
@fesyuki 2 ай бұрын
Man that's really a new thing I wonder if any other European nation will follow?
@attilakovacs2231
@attilakovacs2231 2 ай бұрын
Yeah! May we call it 'the Norwegian revolution'?
@ivanmeen742
@ivanmeen742 Ай бұрын
Banning Quaran would have solved sove many issue in Europe.
@gitte8676
@gitte8676 Ай бұрын
It’s not islam it’s their genes
@crim-jim6814
@crim-jim6814 7 күн бұрын
Bro freedom of speech exists yk?
@shayanhosseini8429
@shayanhosseini8429 2 ай бұрын
i disagree on immigration, we do not have tha mny immigrants, plus mostly are ukrainian today, fell free to correct me, i used SSB
@eyvindr.
@eyvindr. 2 ай бұрын
1/5 of the population as immigrants is not that many for you?
@CJ-fs1zr
@CJ-fs1zr 2 ай бұрын
@@eyvindr.cry about it There will be more immigrants it can’t stop especially when the non European population reaches a level of at least 15% given that even European women are more progressive then the men when it comes too immigeagion so a couple decades say bye bye too Europe but then again it’s karma for colonialism I genuinely think Europeans are scared of immigrants because of competition for their own women.😊
@askosefamerve
@askosefamerve 2 ай бұрын
​@@eyvindr. If they assimilate well what's the problem? If they don't, why are you still taking them?
@Tjisinvaal
@Tjisinvaal 2 ай бұрын
​@@askosefamerve I don't understand the question. "If they don't assimilate why are you still taking them" That's basically what they propose, stop taking those people
@askosefamerve
@askosefamerve 2 ай бұрын
@@Tjisinvaal And i'm telling them to do it instead of letting the door stay open and cry about it. Norway took Ukrainians when they knocked the door, now they're crying?
@mariusbjrnebekk8635
@mariusbjrnebekk8635 Ай бұрын
It should be noted that what seperates the progress party from the far right parties in europe is that the progress party is a self proclaimed liberal party. It has a strong ideological basis in classical liberalism and real free market economics. The Sweden democrats for exampel is not liberal, they are not pro free markets, they are just populist and conservative.
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