A Very Important Meeting

[@ModernRogue]

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[@alee_enn]

We miss Jason.

[@jclements]

Weapons guild / improvised weapons/ outdoor survival / gentlemen stuff tea - cigars- beer -mixed drinks Pipe smoking /science adjacent stuff/computer surveillance how to and how to avoid/lock pick lawer/

[@Larper64]

This is something I have observed over the years, channels that focus on developing skills, finding experiences, talking with experts, or otherwise consistently learning new things regularly work best when you have at least two distinct personalities who can approach the process from different angles. Examples have been: Jamie Hyneman and Adam Savage of Mythbusters; Kari Byron, Grant Imahara, and Tory Belleci, also of Mythbusters/Project White Rabbit; Jeremy Clarkson, Richard Hammond, and James May of Top Gear/Grand Tour; Richard Hammond and Tory Belleci of The Great Escapists; Mark and Ethan of Unus Annus; and of course Brian and Jason of Modern Rogue. My point being that you really need a consistent person to bounce your personality off of and who can also be as interest in learning these talents as you. An idea that just crossed my mind is that with Roosterteeth/Achievement Hunter officially disbanding there may be some recruitable talent from there, and many of them are already located in the Austin, Texas area.

[@punklover99]

Really masks? Not the best prize honestly

[@stuchris]

what do i want out of the show... if we cant have jason, at least perhaps try to bring back some more of that crazy, awesome stuff. not just a light up pickle, but you know, the homemade highjinks we would have seen. the fighting lessons and parkour and whatnot. that stuff that actually drew my eye, and the editing to make it funny to boot. everything on the channel lately hasnt drawn me in personally whatsoever until this video, and maybe I missed some good stuff. but the draw in we had is missing and its not just because jason is gone.

[@GoodTato]

Yeah, missing a host is one thing but it felt like the whole spirit of the show has gone down the drain lately. Shed Logic was a breath of fresh air for a while but quickly fell down the same road.

[@casinferneycf45]

Agree with this.

[@jort93z]

I agree with this. This whole year has been quite weak imo.

[@GerdLPluu]

That. Sometimes, a bunch of random dudes sitting around a table talking about some geeky topic is exactly what's needed ... but that's rather the exception than the norm. Too much of that on the channel lately.

[@alexwolfeboy]

@@GerdLPluu the moments of rest felt deserved and well enjoyed, because they were rests from the action. Without the action to surround it, even the best "slow episodes" are just, missing something.

[@jamesoldfield6477]

Although a time machine isn't possible (yet), the sentiment behind wanting to go back rings true. I've subscribed to MR for many years, and the videos in a small barn, with a cool new guide or demonstration each week, felt very authentic. I feel that some of the soul of MR was lost over the past few years in the attempt to increase production value and scale. When in reality, all we needed was a couple of guys behind a tripod in a barn, discussing how to make mead. To me, the biggest selling point of MR was its brand. It felt like a club for like-minded individuals interested in the vision of being a “modern rogue” a distinguished gentleman, a cultured adventurer, a MacGyver, and an all-around worldly guy who knows things and how to do even more (without being a chooch). I am hopeful based on what you’ve said in this video. I feel you’re in a good position to reset and get MR back to its roots by doubling down on the brand of being a modern rogue. Although we may no longer have the chemistry between you and Jason, I fully believe you make this work by featuring great guests and engaging with the community (like this video). Don’t worry so much about perfection, have fun with it, that’s what we’re all here for. Best of luck for the future!

[@jumoi1586]

Why am I crying boss?

[@DeliveryMcGee]

Reminds me of the pact Clarkson, Hammond, and May had on Top Gear that if one of them died, the other two would start the next episode with "He was killed in a tragic accident. Anyway, ..." and then just go on as if he never existed.

[@Tazer_Silverscar]

I mean, the BBC obviously stuck with that, because they were still making it long after kicking all three of them (thanks to Clarkson).

[@Ajcav763]

@@Tazer_Silverscar And they were never the same afterwards...

[@Tazer_Silverscar]

@@Ajcav763 Yup, Clarkson thinks he's a farmer (really took that cold steak to heart, huh?), Hammond thinks he's a car mechanic and lord knows what May is up to.

[@Tazer_Silverscar]

@@Ajcav763 Update: May is now selling gin. With weird flavours like 'American Mustard' (or Ramstud, as they apparently have to call it in the US). It's very weird, but very May.

[@GoodTato]

Honestly there are two big sides of content I would like to see make a return. The first is the "sit down with an expert and learn about a topic" episodes like whisk(e)y, cigars, and the hacking stuff. For me this doesn't work with a "one host one expert" balance, you kinda need another 'inexperienced' person to bounce off of. The other side (that I think a lot of us miss lately) are the "we don't know what we're doing but we vaguely know what we want to make" stuff like the potato cannon, makeshift shelter, or (a personal favourite) the gas masks. THIS is what always felt like "modern rogue content" to me. I have loved this channel since its inception (hell, since before it WAS its own channel, found it through the first couple of episodes on the Scam School channel) and want to see it at its best. Past few months have been a bit off but I can tell things are going to get better. Last change this big was the whole compound move stuff, and I remember things being *slightly* rocky around then too.

[@SaganTheKhajiit]

Oh yeah, the "I don't know how to make it but I know enough to try to make it" is the most rogue thing ever.

[@LukasTheTerminalKiwi]

EXACTLY! Like sit down with expert are beat videos and approach it from a newbie perspective! And the we know what we want but we vaguely understand it!

[@stevenduering7155]

The “Where’s Jason” is going to become the “Where’s Anthony” joke from Smosh for The Modern Rogue

[@Ramonatho]

As a Smosh fan, in one door, out the other haha

[@borderelite]

It's kinda funny that most of the people watching probably don't even know one of the oldest channels on youtube.

[@pandaman144.]

I genuinely had to search "what happened to jason" to find the instagram post. It was not as obvious as it could have been (even if it was just a note in the description) but its nice to know its being addressed now

[@robin_marriott]

Numbers stations, slow scan TV, home made smoke bombs, treasure hunts, cocktails, cigars etiquette… those are the reasons I’m here. Buzzing some power through a pickle is not it. I think all the recent videos have been lacking the ‘rogue’ element like the early stuff had. With or without Jason, I think that’s what you need to aim for.

[@mistertwister2000]

It’s becoming increasingly clear that while Brian might have been the mind behind the channel, Jason was the heart. Oh btw Jason posted on Reddit and YT that he wasn’t getting paid properly and that’s a huge reason why he left but has since deleted them, it’s clear we are never going to get the full story and it honestly feels VERY similar to when the Game Grumps split.

[@LetsLaberWithMi]

This 👆

[@jo_magpie]

Financial problems. Can happen to anyone, I'm sure he'll or has been made full. Of course he's expensive and the channel might not afford him as a host. Brian makes his money from the SS store and not this channel.

[@eldurazno5761]

I mean you can hav3 financial problems and still split amicable (which it seems is what's going on) I get it, they've got families

[@SgtLion]

I saw those posts too, but I never got the vibe that it was a hostile split. I think MR was just struggling financially with their view dips, and Jason needed more cash. That's the only vibe I got.

[@grantbaker86]

This video feels like I'm watching a charlatan talk his way out of trouble

[@duon44]

"jason is being a rogue and making his own content" Apparently means: "We basically didnt pay him for a year, then renegotiated his contract to a much worse one even though he is co-creator, then started replacing him with other hosts. So he left and is now in such a dire financial situation that he's selling his house" Wtf guys

[@Subaru_Natsukii]

wait WHAT?! can i get the source for this?

[@AceSimGaming]

Yeah wheres the source on this?

[@duon44]

@@Subaru_Natsukii Jason posted it on the strangerous community tab, his insta and on reddit but he deleted it all so not sure if it misrepresented what happened or he didn't want the drama

[@oz_jones]

@@Subaru_Natsukii It was revealed to him in a dream.

[@duon44]

@@oz_jones seems silly now because all posts by Jason about it were deleted but I actually screenshotted it to send to a friend, i know what you said is a meme but i did not make it up

[@kovanovsky2233]

What has been missing, I feel like, since Jason isn't on the videos anymore is the child-like messing around kind of videos. I described to my friends that MR is "two dudes being children and messing around", which is incredibly fun to watch. I don't think I'm far off since you guys sometimes had the supervision of "residence adults". I miss Jason, but also, I miss that child-like nature of just trying out stuff and mess around.

[@ImmaSayKOOHWIP]

I JUST now realized why the modern rogue doesn't feel like the modern rogue anymore. It feels like a channel that should be called Brian Brushwood

[@CruelQuertos]

And brian is the unlikable, i only watched because of Jason

[@ImmaSayKOOHWIP]

@@CruelQuertos I don't at all dislike Brian, but I watched scam school to watch the type of videos he's making now. I didn't follow the modern rogue for bar tricks

[@ShugoAWay]

Yeah even back with the failed TV show it was mostly Jason that would carry most episodes and actually do the research

[@ShugoAWay]

@ImmaSayKOOHWIP you mean rewashed half of tricks from 5 year old videos that weren't good the first time So many times I wondered how he didn't get punched in the face randomly harassing people at bars

[@ImmaSayKOOHWIP]

@@ShugoAWay fax ngl. I love brian, but specifically doing modern rogue things. I would only watch scam school, if he brought back the bleach blonde spiked hair

[@haroldoftherock8973]

I didn't know Jason had left the show. I've been skipping the uploads because the material had become pretty lack luster, for the last 18 months or so. I also don't watch shorts by any channel.

[@ShugoAWay]

Yeah, the quality went down because Jason got tired of being screwed over

[@Ivafakename]

I think honestly the one thing I miss from the older episodes is how badass and sketchy it felt, Like, prison food felt fun to learn and watch because it's something I can use (cooking(?)) but it feels like forbidden knowledge (prison) and most examples had a balance of those two things, or at least one of them in spades, (Taser cameras being cool, but unnecessary, how to make a cocktail being useful but not forbidden,) whereas some recent episodes feel like they slightly lack both of these things, like, realistically none of us are going to need to plug a pickle into mains voltage, nor would anyone want to?

[@richardpowell4281]

I liked Modern Rogue early on because it felt like the dark web of KZbin. Things I didnt hear or see anywhere else. I actually found it because you guys were the only channel to review the Salt Supply pepperball gun (which I bought and still have). It was gritty, unpolished, rogue. I feel you can continue the spirit without Jason... But not by doing a pickle trick we saw in middle school. I own a military surplus store. Ive shipped you guys stuff before. I can send you books like special forces manuals, Anarchist's cookbook, Poor Man's RPG.

[@krotan3845]

YES! I discovered them 5 years ago and I love their older style so much.

[@SeviNG]

What I liked about the show was the interesting knowledge or skills that a modern day rennaisance man would have, in a not so serious way, but a tongue in cheek way, yet still useful to some capacity.

[@HawkWorley]

Thank you for being cautious. Jason was a great co-host, and I look forward to seeing what he is doing.

[@LetsLaberWithMi]

He certainly ain't gotten paid right by these foos and had to sell his own home !!!

[@davidoh14]

No Jason, no MR.

[@imjustwolf]

I appreciate this video FINALLY being put out, but at the same time I feel like nothing was said. Jason was 50% of the show, he should have been with Brian to talk about this and been given a send off. This video felt like it didn't say anything about why Jason left, just that he DID leave. I think it was a major misstep that Jason didn't actively say something here for those of us that don't have Instagram or time to look at a lot of other youtube channels.

[@Vicerion17]

Yeah I feel like a lot was said but nothing explained openly, just vague sayings. I hate having to read into stuff, if it was just people wanting to work on personal projects for a while, it sucks but understandable. But then you have Brian talking about how he has regretted having rash reactions when angry in the past and not wanting to steer into the drama while Jason is no where to be found after posting about moving and job hunting. It just doesn't fit with the whole "open and honest" communication this video felt like it was going for.

[@higgy82]

Jason is the one that left. He wasn't pushed out. He did what he wanted to do. Maybe he turned down being in this video. You have zero information yet running your mouth.

[@imjustwolf]

@@higgy82 who are you talking to?

[@Vicerion17]

@@higgy82 Since no one said anything about being pushed out... what? All I said was that for there to be anger and drama even to be hinted at means there's probably more than just stepping away to work on his own thing.

[@ssjaken]

He literally says in the video "hes moving out of town and working on personal projects". They're also pitching a Hollywood project. Its pretty clear

[@DarleneLesmana]

everyone go watch the podcast episode 137 titled "hoo boy", the very end of the podcast is brian talking about what happened in full

[@cursedvoid]

i'll be honest i havnt watched modern rogue in years because the cohosts you guys brought on randomly just didnt have the same chemistry as you and Jason. Thanks for the content throughout the years though.

[@kuritech]

I chatted with Jason a little bit of IG talking about Project Hail Mary, he's an amazing guy and was truly kind. Please engage with his content

[@MechaHeretic]

I really want to see Macaulay Culkin come back as a guest host..... that'd be amazing. Sign those contracts, BRIAN!

[@nobody8717]

well, get culkin a movie contract, so that he has incentive to do a podcast tour again, like the last time he was on *everything*.

[@travismurtland3257]

Maybe it's just me, but I loved the whole two middle aged nerds learning to do new activities stuff. The martial arts, archery, parkour, etc. Or the crafting episodes, like Nerf modding and such. You say it's a show for gentlemen and I get that, but there's some people who just don't care about dressing a certain way, or tea, or especially alcohol. The type of people caring about different whiskeys and cigars and crap are 40-50 years old and already know that stuff. This generation just doesn't care about all that.

[@leeb8657]

Never realised how much i could admit to needing a show so much. Always a great source of comfort on a crappy day. Undeniable chemistry between you and Jason is what i believe everyone fell in love with. So its no surprise that everyone feels a loss. I know when the shorts kicked in, i was disappointed to not get my usual fix. However, im looking forward to seeing the future of the channel. Keep up the great work guys

[@thespiffingamerican]

To be honest I thought the channel stopped uploading, KZbin stop recommending this channel. Until this video.

[@ModernRogue]

That's our crazy robot overlord, for ya! Even a hint of YT Drama gets it riled up. Personally, Jason and I have never been fans of drama.

[@1995pieter]

@@ModernRogue you guys still friends?

[@stephenmg12]

Same, just seen shorts

[@Theblueshark27]

​@@1995pieter he literally said that theyre working together on another production

[@ShugoAWay]

​@1995pieter from what I've seen and heard in Instagram and those networks not in the slightest that bridge is beyond toast

[@kevin31466]

More of the learning videos. My favorite have been the radio, whiskey, and things like that. You tend to be the entry into the rabbit hole

[@Wirenfeldt1990]

Yes! More meeting cool people to learn the basics of an interesting skill, hobby or some kind of esoteric knowledge! Deev, Trever, Daniel and Rex are just the first that come to mind..

[@NevRChrome]

It’s sad to see the state the channel is in now. I remember binging a bunch of MR videos years ago because I thought they were genuinely interesting, but then it slowly dwindled into something lesser. And now that Jason is gone, whatever the situation actually is, I don’t feel like I should still be subscribed to this channel anymore since it’s no longer what I originally subscribed to

[@sum1liteamatch]

I really wish we could have at least gotten some small check in about Jason. This kinda feels too little too late

[@bufar]

if you want to know WHY Jason might have left definitely DON'T seek out episode 137 of the Great Night podcast and skip to 1 hour, 11 minutes, and 15 seconds in

[@Kebbie01]

Wow... Unbelievable

[@hopejager325]

We would all prefer just the 2 guys an a camera tripod 🥲should have cut the behind the scenes guys and kept the stars

[@royalripoff]

tl:dr Bryan overhired and the company had no money so he sent out an email saying "if you're working and expect to be payed then stop" his words. Too many people hired to do a whole lot of nothing during august of 2022 made it go under and murphy left because no money and he has to sell his house now.

[@JZStudiosonline]

@@royalripoff That is fairly accurate, but somehow that makes Brian an asshole because he had to let people go because he couldn't pay them. I don't know what people expect him to do in that situation. Though why he seems so hesitant to mention it is a bit odd. It also explains the significantly lower quality videos.

[@royalripoff]

@@JZStudiosonline yeah not openly talking about it kind of makes it seem like it was a blunder. Also murphy seems to scorn the whole thing. Weird all around

[@Sycar77]

Frankly, if Jason is working on some books, I'm down for that. If anyone wants to read a great book series, Jason has been really kicking it into gear. I need more books!! Killer Candy and Necromancers On Drugs are amazing.

[@Itisaustn]

Thank you for being open and honest with us! Looking forward to what MR has for the future

[@iooog1]

Man!! That glacier metaphor is really really good life advice! "Don't overcorrect in state!"

[@Taz86]

So basically Brian won't admit to screwing over his "friend" who he failed to pay for a year, then actively tried to replace until he got fed up. Anyone who's seen Jason's side of things and is watching this now already knows Brian is full of shit

[@brendantravis8410]

Found you guys's channel thanks to scam school, and have followed from day one! I would love to see more tech related videos, I really found it interesting from the perspective of someone who is definitely more rogue and scoundrel!

[@ModernRogue]

Awesome! Thank you!

[@XxDemon23xX]

Thanks for all the great content over the years, but I think its time to part ways.

[@VelvetTeacake]

Thank you for putting this out and getting everything in the open.

[@Mike_Steel]

Much like OG Mythbusters, the dynamic with Brian and Jason is lightning in a bottle and cannot be replicated. Nothing against the new guys, but I had to tell the truth.

[@JaronEulund]

I was in 8th grade (12 years ago) when I came across Brian. I haven't visited Modern Rouge in a year, so I was going to binge watch a year's worth of content. I cried a lil bit 😭

[@allowishes06]

I found "The Strangerous" organically and was instantly loved it. Regardless of being aware of Jason. I hope that bodes well for him and his journey. And I want what's best for Modern Rogue. More spy stuff would be cool.

[@mrentity2210]

Reading some of the comments, I kinda agree with a lot of them. The show feels a bit more sterile lately. The appeal of early Rogue was two guys with amazing chemistry and reasonable comedy skills trying to do stuff they clearly had no business doing, sometimes with a teacher. I think when you just started reading out articles was pretty much the start of the decline, but the chemistry still held it together. You seem to have fallen into a trap that a lot of KZbinrs do, which is a loss of genuine feel in return for greater production. And probably, honestly, a lot of that is going to be the outsourcing of material and scripts to new people, but there's also the definite degradation of the feel of authenticity, replaced by the feel of corporate dollar signs, that predicts my fall-off in viewership for so many KZbin channels. And I'm not saying your videos have to look like shit, or be shot on a shoestring budget in your off time, but you are approaching, or have possibly already entered, the zone of "Well this should just be a TV show" without actually being a TV show. Some channels manage this by basically becoming generic play-to-the-masses dumbed-down ersatz TV shows, but the way this show is made would require a drastic shift to do that. You're in the uncanny valley of content. You aren't one thing, and you're not the other. If you're honestly trying to maintain the soul of your show, find a specific regular replacement for Jason, find a dedicated and specific writer so you maintain a voice, pare back the production a bit, and return to the crazy makeshift ideas that endeared you to everyone. Two idiots attempting to do something they shouldn't, or being taught something by an expert is far more interesting than a bunch of people who know what they're talking about having a discussion, or you just reading an article written by a dedicated researcher. I genuinely think you're either underplaying or not realizing how big of a loss Jason was. And while I wish him all the best, I find it kinda half-assed of you to finally promote his channel at a point where he hasn't posted anything in almost half a year. Presumably because he went from a channel he helped build from nothing to a major success to a channel starting at nothing that didn't seem to gain any traction, and lost his ability to dedicate time to it. The post where he described himself as "looking for jobs" is sad. I'm not sure why he left, but it genuinely seems like it wasn't a great idea for anyone involved.

[@HisVirusness]

I used to see you guys as like the Mythbusters, only if Adam and Jamie didn't hate eachother and were actually friends. That illusion is obviously broken, so thank you, professional magician. Seriously, though; it's obvious that there's some static between you two. Dude wouldn't have said stuff on social media if that wasn't the case. I hope you guys get past it. Not even for the channel's sake; I've been a fan since Hacking The System, and it's very obvious that you two are close. I don't want to see two of my favorite personalities lose a friend.

[@lautimartinez6341]

Wait, who said what on social media?

[@skepticallypwnd]

Spoiler warning: Brian and Jason haven't been friends in 20 years

[@mpk6664]

Adam and Jaime don't actually hate each other, that was just a rumor that started and never stopped.

[@TomTheEnglishPicker]

It’s a bloody shame that this all happened and I think the worst part is not being entirely open. It’s clear that something has been obfuscated, maybe because of peoples pride, but I think your viewers are intelligent enough to hear the truth (if that’s even clear to you at this point). There is various stories about financial issues, people not getting paid and it must’ve been really hard both on your stuff and your family. I think just a very crystal clear owning up to the audience would’ve gone a long way, instead of hinting at things dancing round subjects. It’s been Clear Brian for awhile that you have got something on your mind ,wearing heavily on you,as it’s leaking out around the edges. I’ve enjoyed your content for a long time and the dynamic between you and Jason was fantastic.It’s a shame that things came to an end but ultimately everything comes to an end. I hope one day we will get a guest appearance from Jason again and that the channel gets back to its feet and starts being insanely profitable for you like . Good luck and no hate 🫡

[@2gla_2gla63]

There's been a lot of accusations about Jason potentially not getting paid well by the end of his time with MR. I don't want drama, I just want a solid confirmation on if he was treated well. With all the people mentioning Jason's deleted posts, I definitely feel like there's more than the vague story Brian is giving.

[@jamesducharme1711]

I think that it's worth considering that the revenue the channel makes is directly tied to how well the videos do; within the last year they've been averaging 20-60k views per video, but this is a 1M+ sub channel with millions more views. It stands to reason that jason was being paid a fraction of what he'd make at the channel's peak, and also that him saying so could be misconstrued as "yeah they were stealing my pay" rather than "we can't make ends meet because the channel got shafted, right after we bought a whole compound no less." I mean, even before that, they've been operating at a loss for how long now??

[@ShugoAWay]

Great night podcast 137 lil after an hour in exact time stamp is in a dif comment if you want the full story

[@ShugoAWay]

​@jamesducharme1711 no from a bit of digging essentially Brian drove the channel into the ground then when the consequences of that came up instead of taking that hit himself like a man he screw over the rest like a scared child

[@timmyphilp7622]

to me the heart of the modern rogue was always "Hey, here is this cool thing. let's learn, do, or talk about it" but the charm was it really felt like friends having a good time. I didn't care about the fake rocks, but the two of you talking and having a great time. now don't get me wrong, some stuff was really cool. But the heart was the friendship and banter among you guys while you recorded. I stopped watching after Jason left since there was an awkwardness with other hosts. Either forced friendly and/or felt like I was back in a middle school science presentation.

[@BlueEyedColonizer]

Oooff, feels like we are smiling through the pain😬😬😬😬

[@InfernalBanana]

Especially seeing the Great Night episode that revealed a lot, it really does, and it bugged me that they didn’t address that. There was just a lot of deflecting and saying empty words here.

[@ShugoAWay]

Eh more like Brian smiling while trying to hide the bloodied knives and trying to pretend he didn't stab most of his crew in the back lol

[@BaileyMagikz]

Modern Rogue team, please don't be offended by this message. Jason and Brian aka Modern Rogue truly is the two of you. (team read the end part) Take a break, focus on your own projects, but Jason if you see this, know that you can always come back in six months, a year, or even two. Your other projects won’t keep you busy forever, and there will always be a slice of cake for you because, without Jason, there’s no cake so no need to send off don't go, take a break

[@Drjordanbreeding]

Dr. Jordan Breeding sucks, actually

[@mead_me132]

Thanks for the update! I enjoy the sit down episodes where you learn new things(tea, rubber ducky, setting up your own chatroom). I'd love to see more of that. The crafts are always fun too.

[@flaminggorilla909]

I commented on Jasons channel and he responded to me. He said he wasnt getting paid. Idk what exactly is going on but we dont have the full story and I don't like it. Im not waying we need or deserve the WHOLE thing but its pretty obvious details are being obfoscated in order to keep the channels image nice. And if thats not what is happening you did a good job of making it look that way. Most of all i dont respect the way this was handled. Im out yall. I can tell everybody is trying to be friendly/professional about it but its also pretty obvious this isn't the channel is subscribed to. Yall are shady AF. Peace. Out.

[@labratmanny1251]

What's is Chanel ?

[@nbgav]

It’s called The Strangerous. He hasn’t uploaded in a while though

[@flaminggorilla909]

@@labratmanny1251 "Strangerous" is the channel name. He said moving is taking a while and he will be more active once he has things figured out.

[@theindooroutdoorsman]

What happened was MR nearly went bankrupt, Brian explained what happened in a podcast. Honestly, it's said to listen to. Brushwood *knew* it was failing and he sorta just fucked off instead of being proactive until it all blew up.

[@seanrenee222]

​@theindooroutdoorsman what's the podcast link?

[@Firion28]

Bring Jason back with a budget!

[@InfernalBanana]

I’m glad this video finally got made, but at the same time it really felt like a lot of words were spoken, but not a lot was said. There was a lot of dancing around topics and blah-blahing issues. There was no talk of the financial issues he talked about on Great Night, nor anything around the reason why recent videos have been what they are (ie article reads and New York etiquette). It was just a lot of “we have plans”. I guess to try and help the channel, I’d recommend going back to what worked in older videos, such as discussing ciphers, cryptography, spycraft, improvised builds like the Pepper Hooray or Beelzeblaze, etc., not just reading articles or explaining the intricacies of NY bodegas. Go back to two middle aged guys just f-ing around and seeing what happened.

[@irencsak]

I've enjoyed the content thus far, and even all the collaborations and guest showings, so I've got faith there's more good on the way. Thanks for being upfront and open though.

[@nwerd7584]

I like the secret language episodes of the newer stuff. The expert stuff is great too in any field, especially when you get coached through doing it if its an active activity.

[@aalihte3378]

Of course seeing the thumbnail, ive never clicked so quickly😅. But I cant help but be left wondering if there was a falling out of sorts. Anyhow, I got into magic because of you Brian. I wondered why their wasnt more female magicians. Its really such an epic skill. Brian taught me a couple tricks an old magician friend of mine got me with lol. Sad to say I didnt get to show him that I could do it too. But Thank you Brian for helping nurture the interest. ❤

[@Drayle88]

When i started watching Scam School, as it slowly grew up and out into Scam Nation, I jumped to MR because it felt like something big was coming. Something heartfelt. With Brian and jason, MR felt like what Mythbusters could have been if it was not run by a corp. And early shows showed that. Delving into History and finding badasses. Playing with chemicals and teaching what NOT to do. Learning Self Defense and Secret Codes. And most of all, having fun doing it. I NEVER would have clicked in if it felt like a syndicated TV show. I have no trust for those because they always end up changing something that brings it down, extending its life at the cost of its dignity. I LEANRED things watching this show. I felt like I was capable of being a rogue, in some small way. Now? The last video I can remember watching was Level 2: Advanced Tea Craft For Gentlemen. That was 2 years ago. I've stepped in and watched since then, but I cant REMEMBER any of them. None of them stuck with me at all. I wish Jason the best. I'm a rogue at heart. But idk what COULD be done that would bring back the magic that was old Modern Rogue. Also I just noticed the icon for the channel and I'm crying.

[@TheSnackGuy]

I personally want the public access verson of this show and not the cable version. By that I mean, I want you and Jason figuring out stuff alone. No pro help, no researchers etc. Best videos were before you brought on the folks to your staff who knew how to build and craft. The fun part was watching you two figure it out like the rest of us would. Yes it looked clunky and yes you failed or something broke but that was the fun of it. A magician and an author trying to build a flashbang, that just sounds epic and it was. Now its just a tv show, youtube was not built for tv shows it was built for moms basement content.

[@DrCZDeath]

I'm excited for more gentlemanly things. I got into the show from your cigar videos and went back and watched the backlog.

[@ModernRogue]

Me too! Thanks!

[@TeapotDaddy]

I really enjoyed the tea videos and would love to se more. The Modern Rogue is a lovely gateway to a ton of different subjects and things that are right up my alley

[@asdads3948]

The death of both careers was just signed.

[@billy91011]

The episodes I love the most in when you have special guests who are basically specialists at what they do and have them explain stuff (can't remember anyone's names but your friend who owns the bar at an undisclosed location, or the tea guy, or the guy from New York talking about NY convenient store etiquette, or the guys who make whiskey)

[@nexisol7760]

You guys introduced me to so much different stuff... number stations on shortwave radio, keys from photos, the Max Headroom tv hijacking, there's so many I can't even think of rightnow. I think I was about 12 or 13 when I found you and now I'm 21. I still love to check in here when I can, and I still will! I do hope for more tech focused stuff, fun hacking things, all that good stuff. Thank you for everything over the years!

[@TimMoore-gv7hu]

I'm glad jason's doing well and also I'd love to see more experimental diy stuff like the pruno, rust thermite, diy bow and also episodes with professionals like the cigar, tea and Mongolian horseback archery episode, keep up the good work 👍

[@jaczob666]

I love Jason, and I hope the best for him. I've been watching you (Brian) for decades at this point, and you know damn well I'll be here!

[@Link_5963]

It didn't seem like it was directly addressed in the video, and I just want to be clear on it; Did MR and Jason part on good terms? Brian did say they were pitching something together so that's a good sign, but I hope for a little more clarity on this. Thank you for making the video.

[@Mr_Zx]

If they are pitching ideas still then I assume they still have a good working relationship. I know that people tend to think co stars are best buddies forever but remember myth busters host hated each other. Doubt that these guys hate each other.

[@TheRealAlpha2]

@@Mr_Zx Adam Savage always says they "weren't friends," which I think you can kinda see in some episodes, They certainly weren't making off the cuff jokes with each other for an hour, but they respected each other's work ethics enough to keep the show going for as long as the did, so I think "Hate" might be a strong word. But yeah, Jason and Brian seemed genuine together. which is were people get the "heart oof the show" thinking from. Jason was looking to push his creative juices in other directions. He'd been doing more writing, more Novels, more fascinating weird and gross stuff which is easily more his personal wheelhouse. Makes sense he'd want to step away to pursue more of it.

[@jacp5628]

I don't think he would've said anything about Jason's new channel and project if they didn't part on good terms.

[@duon44]

​@@jacp5628Jason posted himself that for the year of 2022 he was basically not paid and his deal was renegotiated so that he wasn't getting a cut of the channel anymore, just a small fee, even though he co-created the show. And then he was getting replaced by other hosts so he left. Does not read like a great departure to me

[@patrickmileski7543]

What I would love to see more of is you being more of a co-host, for example your videos with Red Team Alliance. The videos when you bring in expert and we see your journey to understanding that topic. To me those were always the best episodes, seeing your epiphanies was at times hilarious and others it was even like a "hell yes" moment where the main character overcomes a great obstacle in a TV show. That and it's always fun to learn something new or find a new perspective on a given topic.

[@ka_ekim7277]

What do people want more of - I personally like when you guys try stuff - ik, super specific. But nerdy or hands on stuff is super cool. 3D printing, lock picking, soldering, games, painting anything. Wherever you think you could learn/teach but also make it look fun. I was super bummed to hear the dynamic was changing, but am hopeful. Cant wait to see more.

[@mrboberson7424]

@ModernRogue When you post a video you have the option not to send that to the subscriber feed. Might be worth looking into for shorts since the algo views the subs who don't click it in their feed as a demark. Subs who regularly watch in the shorts feed will see it anyways so no worries about that. I've really enjoyed the new stuff lately and I'm glad to hear that Jason and Brian aren't trying to(intentionally) maim each other or anything.

[@Glorfindel_117]

I'd love to see more of the day-trip type videos. Like going to learn longsword, or dagger, or going and learning horseback riding, or painting, or some sort of skill like that. Where you (and classically, Jason) go out to a trained person, who gives you a little bit of training in an interesting topic. I know thats probably higher cost than the greenscreen history stuff, but that's what drew me to the channel originally.

[@JD2jr.]

Thanks. Better late than never, I suppose. It does seem odd that you say you don't want to "engage in drama", but you seem to imply everything happened amicably so the only "drama" is the lack of transparency. Whether it's "we can't afford a host" or "we have disagreements too often" or "Jason doesn't actually enjoy filming anymore", it would all be fine, but *none* of that was said. Not even a "Jason is definitely gone and we're looking to replace him" or a "Life is getting between Jason and Modern Rogue, he'll be back if the stars align" would be nice. Either could help the audience give better feedback instead of just feeling hung out to dry. His absence also is probably more noticeable because of the general content shift. We're here rooting for you and if you can recapture that "adult kids hanging out in the garage" feel, it would be easier to accept. As of now, it feels like Jason was the fun one, and you just provided the channel. But I've seen your other projects; you know how to create fun too, it's just not coming across in these "read articles to the audience" videos. Perhaps you just need someone else to egg you on while talking to the "experts". Your new cohosts are working double time being both the second host and the expert. Perhaps you could get Cory back for a bit, or throw the camera on a tripod and put Brandt in front of the camera, or see if JRY would come sub in for a few episodes to get the mojo back. Heck, pull a scam school and use the channel as a business writeoff to try new things with one or more of your kids.

[@cranfill]

Ya Cory is the best! 😅

[@shedlogic]

Ya Cory is the best!!!!

[@JD2jr.]

@@cranfill Nahh, I prefer that Shed Logic guy. lol

[@AmazingJaze]

Oh My God!! That Simpsons “Atlanta Falcons” Super Bowl callback joke hit me hard Mr Shwood

[@ModernRogue]

Haha-- I'm glad you caught it!

[@nazmaldun]

c'est la vie I want more of anything, I legit thought the channel was dead for a period time. Whatever is coming I am willing to give it a chance.

[@greasepaint]

Things I love about this channel: magic, spy tech and techniques, puzzles, games, codes, secrets, mysteries, cons/scams, treasure hunts, good stories, learning interesting and niche skills or facts, learning people and communication skills, learning everyday skills, meeting experts in their field and crossover episodes, and seeing the host(s) enjoy themselves in their roles as both teachers and students.

[@mp79kf85]

Great Night #137 hoo boy Brian can kick rocks

[@theX24968Z]

I would love to see more videos like the 419 scams, phishing scams, and explaining a lot of the psychology, mechanics, and methods behind various scams, how, and why they work, along with some unique things to learn about said scams, tricks, whatever. somewhat of a learning experience that I really enjoyed combined with tech. also the ham radio episode was cool, especially with the "we aren't sure if this is something we're supposed to be hearing" vibe it had.

[@robwud3183]

I like that Brian is putting thought and attention and intention into the next chapter of MR and not just knee-jerk reactions or throwing stuff around to see what sticks that I see other channels go through. Keeping to the heart of the channel as described will keep me watching. I wish I could offer a solid video idea but that's what I liked about the channel. I didn't know what I would be interested in until I saw it done on MR.

[@naxmorvigatore4168]

Thank you so much for this Very Important Meeting Brian, while I'm sad to see the split up, it's not the kind of split up the Mythbusters had, it's more like the split up the Game Grumps had. We're all family, we all love each other, it's not a harsh goodbye but a heartfelt and supportive one, so as bittersweet as it is, it's all okay really, and I'm glad to have been raised by and grown up with these golden years you and Jason have provided me and my young adult years. ❤

[@gallantgatsby]

Glad to have this update, and insight. Been loving the Episodes with Ryer recently. And been happy staying active in the sub reddit, and working on the Vox Tempus ARG. In terms of things I'd like to see, I'm always a fan of hands on stuff, the gentleman aspect y'all mentioned I super look forward to. Follow up to that last bit. What's the best place to pitch specific ideas us Rogues might have?

[@ModernRogue]

email me at [e-mail]!

[@jonahcreech1894]

What I've always loved most about this show, and hope to see more of soon, is you doing something interesting, manageably dangerous, and just a little stupid with someone you genuinely enjoy being around. I'll watch every video you ever upload in that format. Love the show, love you, love Jason. Excited to see whats next.

[@dragonmountrand]

Hey Brian, I've been a fan of both this channel and Scam School/Scam Nation from day one, and I know i can only speak personally and i know my chagrin and feeling of letdown with both channels does have a lot to do with the nostalgia factor of learning things about a whole new facet of human experience I hadn't come across before. I suppose the things I wish to see is more of the exploratory side of MR where you're rather flying by the seat of your pants with the co-host in something new, as opposed to a sit-down lecture style where someone is just teaching you about a topic (although I'm not opposed to that as a sort of follow-up video where the pro of the topic can give you a lessons learned type of video). And i know this isn't necessarily the forum for it, but for Scam Nation, I would love to see some of the classic form of content with average joes at the bar being dazzled by the magic and them having to perform it. I am and will always be a fan of all your content!

[@bufar]

It feels kinda weird since I thought Jason was coming up for ideas for videos and Brian was there to just vibe. Now that he's gone it feels like Brian is trying to find someone else to do a Jason impression. EDIT: WAIT, YOU WEREN'T PAYING HIM? What the actual fuck?

[@ShugoAWay]

Exactly he tries to play the victim after literally screwing over a person who was made out to be a friend

[@myname-mz3lo]

they didnt pay jason ...

[@DigiDuncan]

I do hope Jason comes back to guest star, but I'm excited to see where this new era takes the show. I love the episodes that focus on learning a new skill, whether that be something practical that I'd do often or a new hobby that I'm being shown the world of. That always felt like the heart of the show to me, the collection of skills, becoming a Swiss Army Knife.

[@zeekutartheimmortal]

Thank you for finally putting on video what the few redditer's and niche followers only had vague ideas about. While I understand your desire to "not drive angry" and "find the best solution", please understand that in the absence of facts, speculation holds sway. In many of the jobs I've had, I've found that you tell good news as quickly as you can, and you tell bad news/change even faster. The longer you take to rebrake the bone, the more it will hurt when it finally sets. Even if you haven't formed the complete solution yet, just knowing that you are on it, and that Jason isn't some burnt husk in the bottom of the nudist cement pit you have in the back yard is enough to keep most of us at bay. While it was with good intentions, the silence hurt us, and in some cases tested our loyalty and found it wanting. ALSO: YES more So-Han! He recently was given by the town/state/whatever a new building that they own now. Myself and a friend watched your channel during the gentleman/warrior/scoundrel days and he picked up cigars and whiskey, while I took to the tea culture. That rabbit hole took some adjusting :) Thank you again.

[@ModernRogue]

I appreciate your patience. Thanks, man.

[@another3997]

I have to be honest and say that very little of the recent content has peaked my curiosity. The amazing chemistry you and Jason had on the show is part of it, but if you can find a good dynamic with another host, and go on making the adventurous, experimental videos with copious amounts of "What happens if you do this instead?" and "I'm sure it'll be fine...probably" situations, the channel will thrive. 🙂

[@TJSheibal]

I think the meat that's missing isn't just the concepts that were being visited in what it seems we agree are the golden years of the channel. The reason I watched much more in what I believe was late highschool early college for me was the feeeel of the show. Watching the show made me feel like a badass. I was attracted to the organized chaos. It felt very similar to Scam School and I believe there was another channel back in the day where things were on fire and weapons were happening but I was learning something (hacking too). Those are the feelings I'd like to recapture.

[@andreinij]

Deep thoughts with Brian Brushwood. I loved this, shows a lot of "growing up" from scam school and mirrors some of my own maturation during this time. Thank you for this.

[@Spy653]

I hope Jason does get to return for specials every now and then, if not for us then for you x Episode wise I'd like to see maybe some take 2's for old practical episodes that you think you could pull off better now

[@TheKennie94]

I think what we want from MR is Jason back. He was the heart of the channel. I dont want to talk for everyone, but every friday, I knew I'd get a good laugh because of Jason. If we can't get Jason back, go back to your roots, bring evan and Kaitlin on to do a random build. Bring jack the whipper and do something stupid. Bring james back and show more pick pocketing. Stop trying to reinvent the wheel. Do what made you popular. Oh, and fix the relationship with Jason, please!!!!

[@shellsterdude]

Been watching and following since the JustinTV days. Obviously the chemistry with Jason will be missed, but outside of that, I really enjoyed the episodes where you explored and learned something useful and new. I found those to be really interesting and they ultimately pushed me to go try new things. My least favorite episodes where the ones where it felt like they were a 5 minute crafting episode. I also liked the Scam School format because I like magic and also videos on techniques to navigate social situations. I'm a huge fan of "World's Greatest Con" and I would love to see kind of a cross-over format where you explore some topics in the Modern Rogue style, but with a bit more of a documentary coverage layered on top. I appreciate all the hard work you've put into the channel, and I can only imagine how stressful it must be with the capricious whims of the algorithm as your funding mechanism.

[@Brodysseus]

Idk what you're talking about. I love shorts! I've lived in Texas all my life, and with how hot it gets, I can't always wear jeans.

[@ModernRogue]

hah!

[@InkyDustMan]

I feel like it's not even that Jason left, of course, we'd love to see both of you co-host again, but there's been episodes before where one of you couldn't make it or participate before this- A lot of the drink episodes with Trevor fall into that category. But the thing is that, and due to the machine overlords(algorithm) this is the first longer video I've seen in a while, a lot of the videos post-Jason leaving to do his own thing were just sort of lists and articles, in other words the sit-down and interview style episodes, which are fine on their own in moderation, but when it FELT like they're the ONLY thing we got for a while, aside from the shorts, it kind of took away from that heart principle of Modern Rogue. Which you nailed at describing by the way, 100% the pitch was the whole rogue, scoundrel, James Bond, all that- But the "Lessons you wish your dad would've taught you" has ALWAYS been the heart of the show, and the closer the episodes stick to that idea, the better they tend to be- For example, I would LOVE a "Rogue's introduction to cars and working on cars" that is 100% a STAPLE episode that needs to go in the Modern Rogue catalogue ASAP, also things like "How to wrestle" (High school, Olympic style, shoot wrestling, etc.), AND "How to be a PRO wrestler" (like Hulk Hogan, without the steroids and questionable life choices). We KIND of got some of those ideas with the medieval war wrestling video, but there's loads of diversity on the topic, and you could even go through all those, and then sort of have like a video on how wrestling has evolved across cultures and through the ages into so many different branches. The heart of Modern Rogue, to me, is, and has always been about learning to be a better, more interesting, and more creative person in general- I think the issue is that we've been feeling kind of starved for the "Actually Doing Things" episodes", which looks like are finally making a comeback. Because it's nice to learn new things, but it's even better to learn how to DO new things. (or in the cases of more dangerous episodes, safely, and in a controlled environment learning how things work for hypothetical scenarios and educational purposes) Now if you'll excuse me, I'm off to learn more (hopefully) from the new videos I missed.

[@JudithOpdebeeck]

12:45: "waaaaiiiit a minute its a magic show"

[@ihavekalashnikovyoudomath9275]

I hope going forward, when long form videos come back, we see more of the hand-made hijinks, and less than safe experiments. It felt like two dudes messing around with things that they shouldn't and trying to make something work. That was fun, that was what I came for. Suger and Saltpeter, a body in lye, homemade gas masks, improvised body armor. Those were the best episodes because it was two guys, clearly out if their depth, but learning by failing and kinda succeeding The most boring episodes were the ones where someone is just spewing facts you coulf find online. And I don't mean the ones where an actual expert comes (Whiskey, cigars, pipe smoking), because those come from people with actual practical experience in their craft. The boring episodes are the ones where they just sit around on set and start explaining things they found online

[@SneetyPete]

Something I've thought would be neat is to go back and review some of the things you guys goofed up or didn't get a great result from

[@CharlesGriswold]

My first reaction to one of your statements was, "Shorts? Shorts are awesome in the Summer when it gets hot. Oh. KZbin shorts. Right. I knew that."

[@LouerTube]

To the point you make about the show, my favourite episodes were always ones where you make stuff like improvised weaponry or prison wine or ninja stars, not because it made me a badass but it reminded me of my making stuff out of cardboard with my own dad when I was very young. I will say on the flip side of that that to evoke those feelings outta at least me personally you gotta have good rapport, which is why I think i've had a knee jerk reaction to ignore your output post Jason. This is probably my selfish doing and the episodes are probably good, great, even but while we're being honest about what the modern rogue means to us, there's my two cents I suppose.

[@JD2jr.]

Nahh, you've been right to skip, they've been passable at best. I've watched them all because I'm a completionist and I have hope the mojo will return at some point, but 90% of the stuff on here recently has been the video equivalent of those clickbait articles that you read the headline of on facebook and maybe read a couple comments on.

[@robert1589]

It's like Penn & Teller breaking up... Just doesn't work...

[@alexhaladay4345]

The lockpicking episodes is when I 1st started watching. Like to see some more of that style. either locks, safes, other mechanical devices that have that alternate means top open. For Instance: There was a show I used to watch on Fox 29 in philly on sunday afternoons called Masterminds and it did capers for episodes. One I found interesting is the people that figured a way to beat slot machines by inserting a computer chip over the existing one so the machine would pay out in a couple uses. that way security wouldn't tie in the guys standing near the machine with the person that hit jackpot like 5 minutes later.

[@TheRealAlpha2]

It's funny that people calling thems3elves fans didn't know Jason went off to chase other projects. He's got a mailing list and everything people! The weird thing about shorts is the more you have of them the less I notice when you actually do release a long video. Like I'm usually looking at my subscription feed, but the way they organize stuff, anything that's a short or a live stream seems to get pushed first and knocks down all the stuff I'm actually looking for, so if you guys make like one long video a month I might totally miss it if I don't back track like 10 videos to make sure. Considering I watch a lot of car rebuilds, DIY, and crafting stuff these days I'd love to see you guys do an oil change. I'm holding you to it.