A Visit to Triangle Town Center

[@ursulascartridges]

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[@MacquarieRidge]

This is the mall I spent my childhood going to. Love that place. Wish they still had the fountains though

[@mightyshark5557]

I think saks fifth avenue is on its way out at this location. The second floor was closed off and merchandise was spread around to make it look like they had more than they actually did. It reminded me of a closing sears

[@TheRedDevil_NC]

I live just up the road from this mall. Its dying a slow death. It was huge when it came out. The nice restaruants that were there at the entrance closed its doors. Really nice inside but it just cant last. The riff raff customer base has increased dramatically causing the spoiled north raleigh types to look elsewhere for their shopping needs.

[@jmmx69]

Drivingdaily recently did a video in the outside area, it was like 80% vacant

[@zj1997]

It's not so much "heaven forbid [people] have to see nature" as it is that North Carolina is HOT for a significant part of the year, making that big open "lifestyle center" a very uncomfortable hike. (Also, that strip down the middle used to have a water feature resembling a little creek; that was shut off years ago though.)

[@asdf7228]

There used to be a a family bear statue

[@Arturo-sm1tb]

Great point about the weather. Brutal between mid May through September.

[@rreagan007]

Next time you're in Raleigh, you should hit up North Hills. North Hills Mall in Raleigh was a dead mall back in the early 2000s (Crabtree Mall crushed it) and most of it was demolished and the area was turned into a posh retail area. It would be interesting to show what can be created out of the ruins of a formerly dead mall.

[@petraarellano8725]

I like the blue signs hanging from the Sealing with Words like Belk, Sears, Macys, Dillards, Restrooms, Telephones, Creekside Cafes, (I mean the Food Court) Saks Fith Avenue, Barnes and Noble and Public Elevator

[@alonzolane1092]

Glad you came to Raleigh hope you had some fun

[@zionharris7868]

H&M is re-opening June 13th. This mall wouldn’t have so many vacancies if it wasn’t for the crime and bad management.

[@DoomieGruntVentures]

Good to hear H&M is re-opening. Hopefully.

[@petraarellano8725]

IN TWO WEEKS!

[@petraarellano8725]

Tomorrow!

[@elliewillis1394]

this comment aged like milk

[@alainaluu]

If you come back to the Triangle, visit Cary Town Center. That is a truly sad dead mall.

[@DoomieGruntVentures]

Cary Towne Center coming soon.

[@petraarellano8725]

How about Triangle Town Center VS. Cary Towne Center?

[@zionharris7868]

H&M has now closed at Triangle for good as of a couple of weeks ago.

[@tresgriffin8242]

It is quite curious how Saks has stuck with this mall. You'd have thought they'd have jumped on the opportunity to move to Crabtree Valley when the Sears there announced their closure.

[@erizzle67]

It's definitely in the wrong mall. Should be in Crabtree or Southpoint! And they don't have the same hours as the mall so looks weird being gated when other stores are open.

[@tresgriffin8242]

E-Rizzle McInerny Yeah. Maybe they’ll announce a revision to the plans at Crabtree to include Saks and a handful of high end stores (think Tiffany’s, Louis Vuitton, etc.) to bring it up to par with SouthPark in Charlotte. And also the thing with not having the same hours as the mall itself is pretty typical for those luxury department stores. The Saks and Neiman Marcus here in Atlanta are the same way.

[@museluvr]

I think it depends on the owners of set locations. Their dedication to a place over hopping to the newest whatever til another one surfaces.

[@dr666demento]

Only two problems: Macy's is struggling, and Sears, 'nuff said there.

[@MEXICANMOOSE1976]

Your narratives...second to none bud!!!

[@jmmx69]

Drivingdaily recently did an updated video here. Worth the watch as it proved your theory of it being dead.

[@crystaljeannieto3889]

Glad to see this mall is doing well. I lived close to this mall for a while and frequented it not just for shopping but for the food court, especially on lunch breaks. Nice video!

[@jmmx69]

Drivingdaily recently did a video of the outside part, it was dead.

[@stoneyonscene]

Should you plan on hitting up any places in NC to revisit, i'd love to tag along! Dead malls & abandoned spots are my favorite videos to make! Hope all's been well!

[@poppytug3047]

I was literally just there a couple of weeks ago because I don’t have a fye where I live.

[@IMAY2048]

As of a Day ago, Tringle Town Mall may be up for fourclouse.

[@DoomieGruntVentures]

Who you think's gonna buy?

[@IMAY2048]

@@DoomieGruntVentures No idea

[@harrisongluvar]

I went here a few weeks ago and I could hear them working on H & M

[@unpopularopinion149]

Crabtree valley mall is the best in the Raleigh area. Triangle is very boring now. South point is close second. Cary towne center is probably about to go under.

[@petraarellano8725]

Your Probably the First Filmer To Film Here!

[@ExploringtheDecay]

Good old Triangle mall

[@petraarellano8725]

Yep

[@DoomieGruntVentures]

UPDATE: H&M had re-opened for business for a few months before closing permanently. Tim - ExploringTheAbandoned - kzbin.info/door/Jfpi6Cos-P7nmSkjYAKzJA Discord - Link Removed due to terminated affiliation Ko-fi - ko-fi.com/doomiegrunt

[@petraarellano8725]

Can you do A visit to Crabtree Valley Mall PLEASE?

[@DoomieGruntVentures]

@@petraarellano8725 I do have Crabtree Valley Mall on the list. You can expect it sometime next month.

[@petraarellano8725]

@@DoomieGruntVentures Can you tell me the link for the music at the end I really like it (Starting at 11:26)

[@DoomieGruntVentures]

@@petraarellano8725 Check here. kzbin.info/www/bejne/fpKnY5ioetRnmrc

[@petraarellano8725]

@@DoomieGruntVentures Thank you So much for the link I just Love it and The Mall I live like 20 minutes from it

[@StaPuft99]

We really liked this mall. Almost as much as Streets at Southpoint but can't quite compete. The sky lights and open feel of this place are great. It's a shame that the outside area is so dead. We liked the street look and agree it would have looked so much better if the water was running down the "creek" in the middle. There were quite a few people there for a Monday evening. We stayed at a hotel near this mall so we could make sure to see it all and still have time to hit more malls on Tuesday, but we saw all we needed to see in one visit. Might check it out again when we go back to Streets at Southpoint just to see if it's still doing well. Thanks again for all the recon work! Please keep it going.

[@raymondcaple9543]

Opened in 2002 with Hudson Belk, Dillard’s, Macy’s, JC Penney, Saks Fifth Avenue, Sears, and Barnes and Noble along with 200 stores and services. Sears closed in 2019.

[@noelleelizabeth9991]

This mall was always felt too out of the way, I think I only ever went for Z Gallerie. Southpoint, in Durham, opened the same year and has always kinda eclipsed it in size, variety and appeal.

[@lastremain7867]

I remember when this mall opened, crazy to think a big indoor mall was built in the 2000s, to me this mall was never amazing but it was also never terrible. 9:18 I will say the outside design is really bad I don't think I ever walked around out there. It's really bad because from the major road (capital blvd) when you first see the mall you see a giant parking lot and the big outer interior of the mall. I feel the mall should be spun 180 degrees so the people driving by can see the out door part and the giant interior part behind it.

[@archiecampbell3211]

That mall will not last because it’s now owned by the Mall Murderer who is Mike Kohan and I guarantee he will do nothing

[@jmmx69]

Drivingdaily recently did a video on that outside part, it was mostly vacant, crazy difference

[@rickysanchez6352]

I like the Mall but not the Life Style Center. Personally, I don't like strip malls or life style centres; I prefer the conveniences of an enclosed airconditioned place, where you don't have to deal with heat, rain, snow, etc.

[@jmmx69]

Drivingdaily did a video recently on the Commons, it was dead, like 80% vacant crazy dead.

[@archiecampbell3211]

Sears is now closing the liquidation sales started yesterday

[@TheNewgreatlife]

I've always known TTC was beautiful based on photos I'd seen over the years, but oh my Lord seeing a walkthrough has made it exceed my expectations in the aesthetics department!!!! This place is drop dead gorgeous! The columns with lights on them, the skylights, the center court.....just breathtaking, not to mention you say it used to have a WATERFALL???? I can only IMAGINE how that would take it over the top! The Saks Fifth Avenue here has never made any sense to me and I feel like is a disgrace to the company really. This is in no way, shape, or form close to being a luxury mall, and it honestly lags behind a bit in being a decent mid-range mall. It doesn't seem as if Saks should really be in the market at all, but if they're going to be here, they should be at Crabtree Valley Mall. Awesome video!

[@museluvr]

Saks this Saks that ... there' not a thing with TTC for it to remain there.

[@TheNewgreatlife]

@@museluvr Then you obviously don't understand typical retail patterns sir.

[@erizzle67]

There's a Lim's coming here this year. I met the owner in Greensboro a few months ago and he's got a deal in the works. I think it will replace his Northgate location but not sure...

[@adamdavenport6421]

who doesn’t miss the original north hills mall and the blue ridge rd movie theater it’s really sad that they ruined Raleigh when they tore down the iconic north hills mall and the movie theater 😢

[@Christopher0817]

That mall was great well maintained and doing quite well odd hiw something so close to a thriving mall can be dead it boggles the mind

[@museluvr]

So, anyone know what that red star means by the Macy's name? I looked it up and quite the 'oh' to it. This mall is pretty, the floors are nice, the open layout on the upper level. Level the curvy design on the ceiling. And another question, when a mall is abandoned or closed, what happens to the large flags that are hanging within? Are they removed or left by ignorance alone in a decaying environment?

[@HisokaYugami9210]

H&M has opened up and is fully operating now! There’s many more stores closed tho. Sears is now the only one left in the Triangle. Edit: H&M closed a little while ago after that water main burst incident that flooded the entire lower level of the mall… the Sears closed not too long ago as well.

[@jaycunningham4215]

This mall has seen better days. Originally there was a beautiful waterfall in the middle in between the escalators. The lifestyle center featured a creek flowing through the center from the mall entrance to the end. In addition there were more fountains outside as well. Saks Fifth Avenue is there because it has a very lucrative deal with CBL at this mall. All the other anchors here are doing “so-so”. In the Triangle, North Hills Shopping Center, Crabtree Valley, and Streets at Southpoint are your main three “go-to” malls.

[@johnwatson6082]

I always wondered why they got rid of the creek and outdoor water fountains. It probably cost a lot to maintain but it was a great feature.

[@jaycunningham4215]

Saks has limited hours and appeals to the “old ladies lunch time crowd”. Again, the lucrative deal they have with the mall, makes them stay.

[@jeee1074]

This is a weird one. Sears almost made it to 2022 here, but will fall short. The outside portion of the mall is like a couple I know of where the mall interior does very well and the outside falters. The outdoor sections in the areas where they have not done well are like this one. Close corridors with no in front parking.

[@Arturo-sm1tb]

Sears even existing in 2021 is a miracle. Not sure what products they are able to source with no vendors willing to do business with them.

[@jeee1074]

@@Arturo-sm1tb Mostly brands you have never heard of and some name brand stuff mixed in. Sears corporate has reopened some full size department stores in Texas as Hometown stores. The reopened stores are only a fraction of the size of the old store, while the rest of the building is unused. They are trying to get franchise owners to take these locations. The reopened stores are very sad from what I have seen, very low inventory levels and lots of empty space.

[@bertram_oredrock]

It's not a bad looking mall, but not a lot of customers. Retail stores are hurting all over the country due to online sales. I've personally bought several items in the last few days from Amazon and Ebay. We wish them well.

[@mikesexplorations9314]

Great video of a great mall. This was posted 1 year ago, I thought I bet this mall did die down some since covid and the retail apocalypse, but checking their website, they are still going, website even shows Sears is still open, shocking I thought all sears closed. Saks Fifth, Dillards, Dicks, H&M, and Macys all still alive it seems.

[@DisOneIsCool]

As of November 2021, Kohan Retail Investment Group (ugh) has bought the mall and currently owns it. And as of April 2023, Saks Fifth Avenue is STILL THERE! Albeit only operating on the lower level

[@EddyCruz1029]

I feel like Macy's and Saks will both close this year or next year. Saks can relocate to one of the three successful upscale malls in area. Macy's already has their two locations at Crabtree and South point.

[@petraarellano8725]

H&M was still closed when I went to the mall like a week ago

[@EddyCruz1029]

Interestingly, this mall was built by the Jacobs Corp.

[@roflcopta077]

Ive spent a LOT of time in this mall growing up...used to be a lot safer. Going to visit soon for the nostalgia. thanks for posting. The outside portion is the most disappointing.. if the right people got a hold of it, it would be very fun.

[@jmmx69]

Drivingdaily recently did a video on that part, it was mostly vacant. Crazy difference.

[@koriedrose]

Two things about TTC is in 2008 there was a riot in the mall that led to a mall curfew and added to the mall's rep as a high crime mall and the other is Saks has not left the mall because they are not paying rent. The Saks is lower quality store that has not been doing well for a long time.

[@LethaWolfStudios]

I like the interior of this mall it’s modern but not a complete white box. It should really have some fountains though and I hope management and owners are prepared for the inevitable closure of Sears and to find a replacement for H&M if it doesn’t reopen

[@LarcR]

Hudson Belk, NOT Belk Hudson. You were at Triangle Town Center at the wrong time of day to determine its status.

[@campagnollo]

This mall has been put up for sale as of this posting.

[@superfreshap3564]

At best. This is just going to be an equivalent to Lakeforest mall.

[@nancydarling4918]

Interesting video and mall. Thanks for filming.

[@arturocuizon69]

Doomie you said that this mall used to have a waterfall fountain at the center court but how did it have a fountain when it was built in 2002 I thought malls built in the 2000s don't have any of the old stuff because they're brand new not remodeled I thought only malls built in the 70s and 80s are the ones that used to have fountains is it because the developers of this mall decided to put one there to mix the vintage designs of malls with the new designs of malls today?

[@WhittyPics]

An open Sears. Don't see that everyday. If this mall is closed for repairs when was this video made? Pretty cool looking place.

[@ateol]

So sad this was my childhood.

[@Arturo-sm1tb]

This area of Raleigh is still not the greatest demographic for modern malls and the Raleigh area is saturated. With the 540 expressway right there, there are literally 4 other malls within a 20 minute drive without traffic.

[@petraarellano8725]

It's the closest mall to my House

[@rathorclemenger6125]

The lifestyles portion seems to be the type of place, at least now anyway, to sit back, relax, listen to music and read a good book in the peace and quiet. Or is it just me?

[@sprkl5d]

Somehow i missed the food court ...

[@poppytug3047]

I’m not a fan of lifestyle centers I heard Independence mall In Wilmington was going to get turned into one.

[@erihitsuki]

You deserve more subs!

[@Team7channel]

I might go there tomorrow I live in the Durham area

[@petraarellano8725]

HELLO!

[@Team7channel]

Great work on that video

[@dvferyance]

I get why lifestyle centers are popular down south where they have warm weather year round. But I am from Wisconsin and during the holiday season it can get pretty cold around here. I would much rather be at an indoor mall than an outdoor lifestyle center.

[@unpopularopinion149]

Here in NC it’s freezing temps for 3-4 months in the winter which is too cold to be outside and have fun.

[@dvferyance]

@@unpopularopinion149 Seriously? I thought NC was mainly in the 50's during the winter months. NC is not known for winter weather.

[@unpopularopinion149]

dvferyance I wouldn’t say it’s unbearable or anything but it is cold. It’s not snowy but it’s cold here. Daily highs in the 50’s in November/December. Sometimes 60-70 here and there but usually between 25-40 degrees each night when the sun goes down. January and February are the coldest months here sometimes for weeks daily highs are not above 40 and lows are in the teens sometimes. Wisconsin is much colder but still it can be unenjoyable to be outside in the winter here if you’re hanging out and not moving around doing physical work.

[@rickysanchez6352]

Where I live Is the opposite. It's too hot most of the year outside, so enclosed malls offer a cool & convenient atmosphere to shop or dine.

[@scottuncfan]

Great video. Looks like South point mall in Durham. What do you think?

[@petraarellano8725]

Plus Triangle Town Centers food court is called Creekside Cafes and is on the 1st Floor and Southpoint Malls food court is called Fork in the Road Cafes and it is on the 2nd Floor

[@scottuncfan]

@@petraarellano8725 oh yeah that's right both are awesome

[@petraarellano8725]

@@scottuncfan Of Course! Yum!🍴

[@petraarellano8725]

@@scottuncfan And They have a great Lifestyle Center but this one I like more

[@jaycunningham4215]

This mall was one of the last Jacobs Groups malls in association with CBL Properties. It was heavily patterned after The Streets at Southpoint but the mall management gave up on the mall too quickly along with the economic downturn a decade ago. Sad but CBL doesnt know how to successfully operate a mall. They let this one go to pot very quickly. Meanwhile Crabtree continues to get better and Streets is holding up very well and will soon undergo an expansion in a few years.

[@AngelPandaEarth]

5:33 bad KZbin captions

[@petraarellano8725]

H&M Is back open

[@mikeskumanick9538]

If sears closes id replace it with a nordstrom or neiman marcus

[@archiecampbell3211]

Your idea would come true now

[@17z483]

Koki: Raleigh, North Carolina 5/31/15

[@petraarellano8725]

I usaly park at Sears but sometimes at Belk when I go to that mall but if Sears Closes I probably would park at Belk But One time I parked at Sears Then went up a Hill to get on the Upper Level Entrance at Belk then went down a Hill to get on the Lower Level Entrance at Belk then walked to The Food Court Then I got in Then... Later after Shoping and all that Stuff I Left The Mall At Sears. So weird Entering and Leaving Huh?

[@joshualawrence7785]

HnM is open now store looks brand new