A Young Woman's Cryptic Pregnancy and Denial | New Amsterdam | MD TV

[@wyvern723]

That midwife was exactly what was needed. She came in, gentle, non-judgmental.

[@Mcdonald-k6x]

That "hey sis" I love it

[@FullTimePatient37]

She acted with care for both the mother and the baby ❤

[@nathalieduverna6963]

❤❤

[@franziskaways4956]

She needed to see that baby come out. A forced C-Section under full anesthesia would have had her reject that child just even more.

[@Reminisce212]

Exactly

[@alyssastern6073]

I think the point was that they did not know if a natural birth was safe as it was too late to even determine.

[@franziskaways4956]

@alyssastern6073 Natural Births are save in most cases. Especially if she is already that close to giving birth. Most C-Section are the result of failed inductions or a too long labor (when Mama doesn't have any energy left). Even breech Babys can be delivered vaginally, if a doctor is present, that can intervene if necessary. And if labor is at a certain point, you don't even have to push any more. Its called fetal ejection reflex. You just can't stop it, if you are that far into it. Your Body is going to push that baby out, even if you are trying everything to keep it in.

[@lifewithlee6298]

They both could have died , he was just trying to save them. It’s a crappy situation 😢

[@mask938]

@@franziskaways4956 I’ve heard that doctors never recommend a breach birth to be delivered vaginally.

[@ashefauxe3369]

"WHAT DID YOU DO??" the intense wave of emotions she would be feeling in this moment is heart shattering.

[@mask938]

I know it’s difficult, but she needed to see her child be born. If she’d have been given a C-section under anesthesia, she would’ve continued to reject the baby and continued her denial.

[@Catseye189]

DO NOT lie to patients

[@denardjones7077]

Go Tiffany!!!!!!! That’s David and Tamela Mann’s daughter. She’s an amazing actress.

[@keyawnspoor9903]

Wow I didn't know that she's amazing ❤

[@cocogoddessloseweigt]

I said that the girl looked familiar..wow. Good job

[@ptarahburgess]

Oh wow! She did an awesome job

[@mykali1481]

She def looks just like Mr.Mann

[@nataiyaboyd1822]

I didn't know that

[@skipmullen7560]

What a great actress the pregnant woman is.

[@SryMsJackson]

This is David Mann aka Mr. Brown from Madeas movies and plays daughter.

[@quinn7536]

Her name is Tiffany Mann

[@asia8001]

She totally looks like him I’m glad to see this family is full of talent.

[@jazzybash1]

I love that the psychologist and the midwife nurse stepped in. I know the OB was worried about the baby but, if she had took just a minute to listen to the mother she would have realized that her denial was because of some trauma. The woman clearly was healthy enough to push out the baby. The c section was unnecessary and should be the last measure especially if the mother had the capability to push. She was so guns a blazing about calling legal to force a c section. That would waste time and money and any surgery is risky. If she just listened for a second and had a better bedside manner, she could have taken care of the mom and baby without anyone else stepping in.

[@asia8001]

I definitely noticed how it had to be the blk medical professional to step in and had respect and dignity to the patient. Not every pregnant person is willingly impregnated so I like how this showed she wasn’t just some girl out her having sex and getting pregnant by any and everybody.

[@makicha10001]

That OB is the type of doctor that don't care about the mom. That nurse an angel

[@Joe-ny8xq]

Her concern is the baby that was not cared for and was at risk because “mom” was in denial. That’s all the info she had at the moment

[@deseraecannon-mcdonald7630]

I do not think she is a nurse she is a midwife but I could be wrong. The male psychiatrist said that she is a midwife to the female doctor so who knows.

[@Meanie74]

@@Joe-ny8xqwe should care less about babies than the mother. I’m so serious after roe v wade being repealed. Women prioritize your existing self idc what men think or say about it

[@Rosawyn]

@@deseraecannon-mcdonald7630 Midwives who work in hospitals usually are nurses as well.

[@admommy3]

I think he called her a nurse so the mom didn't know she was a midwife

[@tiggynv214]

What personally gets me about the OB is she was so quick to jump onto the idea of a C section. It makes me feel like she’s overconfident in her abilities which is infuriating. It doesn’t matter how many years you’ve been practicing medicine, that doesn’t mean risk is automatically out the window

[@TimberlakeTigerGirl]

The woman was 8 cm dilated meaning that baby was coming any minute. If the woman is in such denial over being pregnant then she's not likely to cooperate and that puts the baby at risk. They were running out of time and needed to do what's best for the baby.

[@microwavedmetal]

No she realized the mom was crazy

[@asia8001]

⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠@@TimberlakeTigerGirl The OB literally stood in the back as the nurses held her down not once ever being considerate or respectful to the patient or even trying to understand why she was in denial. Obviously the episode was written this way to show how if the doctor had made her feel somewhat comfortable like the others did the baby would’ve still been fine.

[@asia8001]

@@microwavedmetal You don’t have to be crazy to be traumatized. Hopefully you don’t ever end up traumatized and ppl call u crazy.

[@Sniperboy5551]

She wasn’t overconfident, she wanted to minimize the risk to the baby. She was right.

[@rashellehole2853]

This poor young lady , people are so strong to be able to represe abuse and still come out on top .

[@RavenPendragon14]

The way doctors are so comfortabke just assaulting patients who dont do what they want is astounding. Youre gonna take away her right tobdecide for herself because youre impatient?

[@TimberlakeTigerGirl]

Considering a baby's life was at stake, no they don't have that luxury.

[@samiraazzahir9963]

I think that's a cop out. There are many ways to achieve the goal; some are kinder and more empathetic than others. It's easy to simply say "it's policy" instead of treating people as human beings. This is exactly why so many black women die in childbirth... the system refuses them humanity. Thanks for your comment, @@TimberlakeTigerGirl

[@asia8001]

⁠@@samiraazzahir9963 Thank you the person u replied to is trying to make it seem like the OB was in the right but obviously since the baby was naturally born that should cancel out what the OB was trying to do. I’m glad that the doctors took maybe a few minutes to get her somewhat comfortable to push showing how compassion can positively affect a situation. People are really dense sometimes lol.

[@Sniperboy5551]

Psychotic/delusional people don’t have the right to decide for themselves.

[@abuhurairah6268]

I'm afraid there's the policy to override a patient's decision when they are proven, beyond reasonable doubt, to be incapable to make a rational decision.

[@sidoniemanyfoba1654]

That nurse is an angel. Oh my goodness. I work with people with IDD and i wish i had the right words and tone so many times and i didn't.

[@aprilbanks2018]

My daughter suffers from Repressed Unresolved Trauma from Childhood. It has caused her to have seizures. God heal us... 😪

[@allisonmartin848]

May the Holy Spirit be your daughter’s peace and comfort as she continues to live. Remind her that she is not and will never be alone. God loves us and even though bad things happen in this world, He is still in control!

[@marshariusadams6236]

Even if they would have did a c section she would have rejected the baby and said they went to find a baby and is now saying she had a baby she needed to see and feel the baby physically to know that she has a baby

[@mar-k7104]

C sections are a serious surgery with consequences. They are an incredible medical procedure when needed, but when they are not it is horrible to do them on a healthy patient…

[@AvaJessamine]

Right I agree with you! if it’s a emergency or somethings life threatening which is why they do c sections I don’t think any doctor would actually advise someone healthy to do a c section usually it’s if it’s making the health of the baby or mother life threatening etc preeclampsia could be a reason or high risk reasons too but I know what you mean yeah

[@asia8001]

Thank u ppl in this comment section are acting as if we all didn’t just watch the same clip 😂😂

[@shirnelleeusebe8738]

I did not receive prenatal care for none of my different cryptic pregnancies and they are all amazing i am so honored to have my three beautiful daughters on different cryptic pregnancies.

[@Kbellaluvvs]

Ok Tiffany!!! I’m glad to see her in more tv/film she’s worked hard for it!!!

[@alexdelaossa2024]

I just found out I’m pregnant and this makes me worried about the person who will deliver my baby into the world

[@URFUTUREUK]

You are right to worry. My child suffered severe clinical negligence at the hands of terrible midwives, nurses and doctors. They are now a severely disabled adult and the organisation who did it are still denying liability. They will have to accept and settle eventually but that doesn't take away the emotional pain and trauma.

[@lilpurpleangel94]

REMEMBER YOU COME FIRST. When I was pregnant, I had a midwife who didn't care. I asked questions and she made me feel stupid. I moved on to another doctor who was kind, who listened, and treated me like a person. I've been her patient for the last 4 years. Trust your gut. If something doesn't feel right, do whatever you can to move on until you feel comfortable.

[@xoangelicaf0523]

It’s so crazy that women have to worry abt this. When I had kids 15 & 19 yrs ago I had no worries at all. I had a great obgyn he was wonderful ❤

[@mrspisky]

Don’t settle if you are uncomfortable in any way. My first office of ob/gyms were a bunch of biznatches. I changed and was so much happier. They were causing more stress than the pregnancy.

[@alyssastern6073]

As someone in the health care field communication is the master key. Not just an hour or two of talking but actively taking for a multitude of hours throughout the pregnancy. Make sure the OB is someone who is "riding the same wave as you" and is fully aware of what you want and has your conversation details documented. If you want someone in the delivery room with you bring them along (for the longer talking appointments) and make sure they also have a relationship with the doctor. Lastly let the practice know ahead of time (better yet same time you are making your appointments, not the day before) if during your appointments you would like to spend an extended period of time discussing your birthing plan and to make sure the appointment time is adjusted for lengthy conversations and questions (they will appreciate this more than it being sprung up and would be more likely to take the time to truly listen as it will fit into the schedule).

[@AquaDanielle]

So much to unpack here. 😢

[@Cruzan9]

Yeah, there is.☹️

[@arnavmekala4578]

I just watched this episode on Netflix, it was sad and very real for people who may have experienced this.

[@jessicaziegler167]

Does she keep the baby?

[@arnavmekala4578]

@@jessicaziegler167 nah, she surrenders it, fortunately we see a family take in the baby.

[@rachaelford5525]

​@arnavmekala4578 thank you I really wanted to know it ended! Sad but glad the baby was able to go to a family

[@yasschick7937]

couldn't find this on netflix? are you US?

[@arnavmekala4578]

@@yasschick7937 yes

[@lakeofalltrades]

The OB showed the same disregard like her attacker. No say so in regards to her body, no patience to find out what’s going on, looking to save baby and not mother….. it’s all disheartening

[@misslanapaulford]

So basically she was R8apd multiple times and that's how she got pregnant..😢

[@melitza34alvarado]

From her dad

[@misslanapaulford]

@@melitza34alvarado I thought it was some random guy she was staying with.. That's worse.

[@melitza34alvarado]

@@misslanapaulford she said her dad lost his job and was drinking she couldn't fight it anymore so he kept taking it from her to her yes that's the worst 😔

[@JRoGo]

@@melitza34alvaradoI thought she said it was her stepdad’s brother.

[@FullTimePatient37]

First time 1:32 I'm glad a Psych is stepping in!

[@SryMsJackson]

Go Tiffany Mann! This is the gospel singers David Mann & Tamela Mann daughter.

[@lovelyscorp79]

This episode is a great depiction of what black pregnant women go through during child birth. The most heart breaking being that young woman and husband whose baby the doctor decapitated pulling him out of her womb. Im tearing up just typing it. Its 2024 and we cant do better than this? What the actual fuuuuuuuuuuk ......as for the OB, I see alot of ppl saying shes horrible. Not really. If the mother wasnt suffering from cryptic pregnancy, she would have no legsl right to even persue the court order. But being psychologically unwell it is her JOB to advocate and deliver a healthy baby. That episode on law and order if the woman would not stop drinking ling enough to give birth to a healthy baby. After already birthing a son suffering from fetal alcohol syndrome, is a true story. The woman wA held in a mental hospital until she gave birth by way if court order through her husband. He subsequently divorced her and was awarded sole custody. The real mother didnt commit a crime so she dodnt go to prison. I like to think the mother that episode is about, went to rehab. And slowly entered her sons lives again. But hey....you never really know. But the courts and doctors when dealing with a diseased brain take precendent over the patients civil rights. In both cases their disease directly harms the baby making decisions to protect the baby paramount, and given precendent.

[@queent4846]

Great job Tiffany!!

[@joanhuffman2166]

The way everyone is commenting on this as though this wasn't fiction and drama. SMH

[@tyshiaajayy4019]

Stuff like this happens. . An ob doctor has decapitated a baby due to not listening to the mother when she was telling them something wasn’t right and all they told her to do was to just keep pushing and then yanked on the baby. There’s girls and women being taken advantage of by close people in their lives and can’t ever do anything about it because other family members feel it’s family business no need for the law . It’s not just fiction

[@carolynmathison4981]

Definitely would love to see the outcome of this story 😮

[@sketchyhonarts5907]

I feel bad for her...the pregnant woman should not be treated that way...she was abused...that's sad.

[@ShervyseSmiles]

Wow this 🙌🏽🥺 Writers always write from some place of truth and although this is a a show I know many can relate to this story.

[@sonyahall5080]

I really miss this show. All the good shows always seem to get cancelled

[@feliciagreen5561]

That's David Mann daughter Tiffany Mann

[@diariesofagrowingcaramelqu6665]

Tiffany Mann is in her acting bag🎉

[@MsDisneylandlover]

She still acting

[@ghoullovinbutch]

OBs like that OB are why people are making a return to doulas and midwives.

[@luvmymama4]

Alright we see you Tiffany Mann..

[@GodisLovetoo]

Sometimes you just have to meet people where they are….

[@demetriasmith3394]

Tiffany Mann!❤❤❤🎉 yes!

[@shirnelleeusebe8738]

Honestly I cried so much because it was a difficult need to break especially since I tried so hard to protect myself.

[@quinn7536]

Come on Tiffany Mann ‼️‼️‼️

[@quinn7536]

She didn’t use her parents name she made her own career and I think that is so dope.

[@alexandramoyer8785]

That OB is so bad

[@cfrygirl]

I don’t know one person who didn’t go through some sh during the shutdown. SMH 😞

[@Maz-zb9uf]

Part 2 please

[@MsDisneylandlover]

So what happened to baby

[@cjmarseille8923]

New Amsterdam Season 3 Episode 8 "Catch"

[@janewilliams3236]

Go Tiffany mann we see you girl

[@gradeabeauty09]

Tiffany 😊

[@DJDeezyThaTruth]

-I Recommend Anyone Pregnant Have A Midwife Or A Dula 👩🏾‍🍼

[@N1k4_Gr1v]

POOPING?!!!!!!!!

[@admommy3]

Yes. When you push a baby out that's actually the way they tell you to push

[@N1k4_Gr1v]

@@admommy3 dude, she literally brought a black baby into this world. When people see and hear these poor choices of words. U know exactly what they gonna expect to say

[@anayerissdunn3859]

@@N1k4_Gr1v what are you yapping about its literally a lame mans term for describing how to push and its not going to be retold outside of the hospital your reply genuinely makes no sense

[@chocha4438]

@@N1k4_Gr1v Nah, WTF are you talking about??? That’s literally what the doctor tells ANY woman that is having trouble pushing because that’s the proper way to push! Get over yourself.

[@cheetavontiebolt9971]

What happened to mom and baby

[@meetmeintheafterglxw]

i think she put the baby up for adoption at the end of the episode

[@gredin3660]

I believe someone said that she surrendered the baby and it was taken in by another family

[@shennamyricks5292]

So what happened next?

[@tamarawilson5706]

Go head Tiffany Mann ❤

[@RacieRain]

These shows need to do a little more research. A court order for a C section??? 😂😂

[@msalepooh]

I looked it up. Some states do allow this if the baby is in imminent danger or they don't believe the mother is fit to make choices.

[@erieljohnson9157]

I'm a black woman and my doctor was a black woman

[@shirnelleeusebe8738]

The doctors told me I won't have children I prayed for one now and got 6 children 3 of which hide their way.

[@shirnelleeusebe8738]

Whoa I can identify

[@angelicakaufman7183]

Wow what a crappy doctor

[@OneAndOnlyTyker]

I've not watched this show besides clips on here and NONE of the female leads (except maybe the Chief played by Freema Agyeman) have redeeming personalities or do their jobs with care. Perhaps my limited knowledge of the show doesn't help, but the men all seem to be better written characters.

[@AzulToad]

I liked my comment since no one will.

[@just-tess]

realistically there's no Iggy for most Black folks giving birth, no matter how it happened, and too often the racist paternalism of the OBs ends up with the parent, child, or both suffering irreparable harm or worse

[@markelabanks4808]

Most Doctors have a Savior Complex and don't actually care about the patients. I'll be having a home birth with a Midwife/ Doula

[@whowantswaffles]

"most?" Midwives are getting paid too dude. What a weird sweeping statement about doctors who know way more about childbirth than you do.

[@savagedragon79]

Forget the stimulus check, I was making bank just off unemployment. That extra $600 a week was great.

[@betabrat8973]

Bragging about getting money from the government for being unemployed is wild.

[@ItsJustTuesday]

Oh arrd the first comment is a scam comment off the gate ? 😂

[@MostArdently_Yours]

@@betabrat8973 I mean the alternative would be bragging about how great they are for never taking any government money during a worldwide crisis and instead struggled it out with whatever money they happened to have left as people lost their jobs left and right.

[@greenpegatrix3773]

😅 Except those weekly checks don't last as long as you think. They DO run out.

[@savagedragon79]

@@greenpegatrix3773 they made ALOT more money than one stimulus check.

[@RooseveltGatlinJr-k2x]

Poiuytrewqaqwertyuiop

[@allisonquinhones7594]

How about that gaslighting?!? That pregnant mama needs to wait the F up . I hate these shows .

[@omolaraojo2831]

You did watch until the end right? Where she said her father sexually assaulted her many times? She didn't want to have that baby because of the circumstance. So reasonably she was in denial. But it's clear that she either didn't have the resources, or didn't want to go out and have an abortion. Anyways she gave the baby up for adoption

[@shannonsmith4174]

why does every woman have to lie about this... just tell the truth your putting your life and your babies life at risk....

[@TiaKatt]

"every woman" blah blah blah

[@marissafranklin3281]

It’s not a lie it’s literally called a cryptic pregnancy. Why does every man make a generalized statement about women when they know nothing? Been putting women’s lives in danger for centuries making assumptions and never listening.