A350 & A321XLR - What's Happening At Qantas?

Qantas is resting its hopes in aircraft such as the A350-1000 and A321XLR to help reshape its future; however, recent announcements have resulted in problems for its network in the coming years as delays are felt. So, what's the latest on the delivery delays and issues?
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[@jamessharp7326]

Another one-sided analysis. Qantas were warned that if they didn't order the A350-1000 sooner, they would face delays and never acted. It's hard to blame the manufacturer when the customer won't listen.

[@smeary10]

But you can't expect Qantas, or any airline for that matter, to order brand new aircraft during the pandemic when nobody knew when flights were going to resume. You're right. There's two sides to every story.

[@sainnt]

Qantas already had the very capable 787-9, and Boeing was willing to build a HGW version, which they would have gotten sooner. The 787-9 is already flying one of the longest flights in the world without any modification. Qantas is taking a risk, albeit a calculated one, shifting from Boeing to Airbus. They're undoubtedly going to incur additional costs, but hopefully they got a large enough discount from Airbus to offset that.

[@smeary10]

@@sainnt The 787 does not compete head to head with the A350. That's what the 777X does. The 787 competes with the A330 family of aircraft. It was never in the race for Project Sunrise as it doesn't have the capacity let alone the range. I've flown SYD-DFW and PER-LHR on the QF 787 and they're great, but they're not big enough and can't make the numbers work for SYD-LHR or SYD-JFK.

[@sainnt]

​@@smeary10I never said the 787 competed with the A350, and the A330neo was built to compete with the 787, not the other way around. Technically, the 787-10 was built to compete with the A350-900, and the A350-1000 was built to compete with the 777X. The A350 is only being fitted with 238 seats for PS, well below the capacity of the 787-9. Granted, the aircraft has to be premium heavy, as well as have a wellbeing zone, so it's understandable that a larger aircraft was selected. However, Qantas did use the 787-9 to test the project.

[@smeary10]

@@sainnt the PS A350 config is for weight. There’s also an extra centre line fuel tank on these special A350-1000’s. 787 can’t touch it.

[@meljoe]

Thank goodness mate!! Qantas hasn't ordered the 777X. It would have warranted a 2 hour video!!

[@sainnt]

Qantas also didn't order any 777s either, even though they were instrumental in the design. They also didn't order the 747-8. I think that both of those decisions hurt them in the long run. We'll see how the A320 series and A350 works out for them. Too soon to tell at the moment, even though both the XLR and Project Sunrise planes are late.

[@smeary10]

@@sainnt I agree with your sentiments re 777 but not the 747-8. A-380 is a far superior product in every way. Hardly anyone ordered the last jumbo.

[@michaelosgood9876]

It'll be 2026 before Qantas even gets a sniff of the A321XLR

[@jimbo6059]

That is only around a year and a half away, not long,

[@carisi2k11]

Not former executives not listening. One specific former CEO was not listening and was pushing Qantas to the brink.

[@rushfan3]

Hey DJ, I would love to see Qantas have the record for the longest non-stop flight. So I'd be looking forward to the delivery of the specially built Airbus A350-1000s. Would like to finally be able to see what makes this different to the standard A350-1000. Cheers

[@gunvaldsandhaland7757]

I Will Love Fly On A350-1000

[@terryc8235]

Definitely looking forward to the A350-1000

[@Jakesullivan2112]

Don’t worry 777x will take over the wide body market as soon as it gets being delivered to airlines

[@steinwaldmadchen]

@@Jakesullivan2112 I mean, what else can 777X compete other than capacity? It's way heavier but no better range and payload.

[@rustygates3367]

@@Jakesullivan2112 Hardly, you simply don't under the economics of the aircraft industry at all. The 777-8 is a failure from the get-go, same goes for the -10, the -9 has a chance but will simply be outpaced by the A350.

[@ricky1231]

@@rustygates3367 yes B777-9 is probably too big for most airlines except Emirates, Qatar, singapore, BA & cathy pacific. no one in north america has the 777-9/8 on order!!!!

[@steinwaldmadchen]

@@ricky1231 The problems don't end there - it is big but offers no better payload, range or economy. No way 777X can survive standalone without Emirates.

[@stradivarioushardhiantz5179]

>16000km nonstop flight on Commercial is intersting

[@patrickpeters2903]

The commercial aviation industry is booming. In all directions. And external influences play a role too. Airbus is not struggling with safety or quality issues but industrial ones....frustrating but inevitable....

[@dereklawrence4622]

Don’t you just love any negative comments for Airbus. Boeings delivery schedules are much worse.

[@ETTechnologis]

I see your point in the video, sure! But, imho the airlines are to blame themselfs for these issues. At least many... When thinking back to Covid, nobody, no airline wanted any new jets. All the Aircrafts were parked and stored away... The most important parts here are the supplychanes. Because production was holted (or at least shut to very low rate) all the supplieres and contractors etc had to shut down there production aswell as Airbus and Boeing. Nowadays they want these new jets, but the manufactureres first have to ramp up production again, which is way more complicated than many would think! IF they had commited to the production a few years ago, we won't have these problems today... Cheers!

[@user-vl5tu2fn7r]

Airbus should have put made the Airbus a321XLR with a carbon reinforced fiber wing instead of having a larger fuel capacity. It would have been more money upfront but less money in delays.

[@steinwaldmadchen]

CFRP is extremely difficult to manufacture, even more than metal ones. No programs with CFRP wings (787, A220, A350 or MC21) have plans to scale beyond 14/month, way lower than what Airbus needs for A321NEO. Can say the forementioned composite programs are smooth sails either.

[@augustiner3821]

why? It's an excellent aircraft in its current form.

[@sainnt]

One of the biggest issues Qantas is having with customers is their tendency to combine Qantas flights with Jetstar flights on a single itinerary. This means that a customer would be shifted from a higher quality of service to a much lower one. That's like going from a Singapore airlines flight to Scoot They need to put an end to this practice as soon as possible.

[@ronparrish6666]

Lufthansa used to do that with flights to Toronto by switching the planes to Condor people were paying top money for the Lufthansa flight and would end up on a Condor flight

[@sainnt]

@@ronparrish6666 That's not good. But, believe me, Condor is way better than Jetstar.

[@Charles-sn7zy]

At Saint... Sorry for the confusion about my comment on today's post... wasn't meant for you.

[@sainnt]

@@Charles-sn7zy No worries.

[@jeremypearson6852]

You stated that Qantas has postponed delivery, but why would you do that if you’re facing delays?

[@Plen3716]

Qantas haven’t postponed it airbus has I think it was just weird wording. Definitely just delivery delays Qantas wants these jets asap

[@jjjddd231]

I can't wait to fly in the new business suites with privacy door on Qantas A350-1000 XLR. The best and safest airline in the world.

[@Dave_Sisson]

Really? If you can afford that you are a lot richer than 99.9% of viewers.

[@LachieJohnson]

Flying Qantas in June 6 years since I last flew them so it’ll be nice to see considering I’ll be flying economy on the e190 and 737 as well as 737 business. Been a VA boy for a bit

[@da480]

Lol Boeing would have loved to have Airbus’ problems instead of it’s own 😁

[@emmett3067]

It will take a decade for Qantas to repair the damage done by Joyce to their brand, reputation, fleet. The underinvestment across this business is a national disgrace.

[@theothomas4287]

The most successful CEO of Qantas who managed through some extremely tough world economic times to bring the airline not only through them but to be profitable. I know staff were not a fan of Alan Joyce however they were more than happy to take all the bonuses and other benefits he achieved. But as the old saying goes “Haters are going to hate”.

[@user-vl5tu2fn7r]

I think that flying for 20 something hours is exhausting. I would rather have a stop while flying.

[@LMays-cu2hp]

Looking very nice.😊

[@chrisweavers903]

Great content - but script is repetitive and long winded - Sharpen would be good -

[@FeRnAnDo1538]

I hope someday they open the route SYD-GIG via LIM.

[@Dd-do6gf]

A350👍👍

[@jlmarc01]

Still with that silly project sunrise???

[@KattasiumAviation]

yeahhh... they're backing down and now flying direct to paris i think?

[@747forever9]

Thanks dj!!

[@Taketimeout3]

You really stretch out what could be said in a couple of sentances. Quantas does not "deliver" aircraft, it accepts them, or recieves them. It wont be long before you will be able to talk over the whole 20hour flight at this rate. 😊

[@zloinaopako]

Are you insinuating that somehow Airbus is treated more preferably than Boeing? There is a good reason to mistrust and not take Boeing seriously after their deliberate shortcuts in Max’s certification and manufacturing led to deaths of hundreds of passengers on Lion Air and Ethiopian Airlines flights that crashed due to and exclusively because of Boeing’s staff gross negligence. Corporate American greed against the lives of the aircraft passengers. A theme that has had so many iterations.

[@stevenwest000]

Just subscribed. One step closer! Lol

[@AlfCalson]

✈️

[@rogerbradley1721]

XLR

[@leelavathyannadurai2172]

Well how about talking new facts of any airline that would be interesting

[@wadehiggins1114]

Project sunset

[@EuropeanRailfan]

Project moonlight

[@lukecarmody3511]

A220 is already broken...

[@Jakesullivan2112]

By then 777x will be ready and Qantas can just go that route .

[@r12004rewy]

You reckon 😂

[@camileshakakeesic4421]

If a350 1000 gets delayed still with 777x almost approved soon

[@Jakesullivan2112]

@@camileshakakeesic4421 exactly

[@gerhardma4297]

@@camileshakakeesic4421 and what do you dream about at night?

[@augustiner3821]

just watch, whether Boeing can bring it flawless to the skies. It doesn't look like that at present.

[@emiel7792]

Order airbus, fools

[@mmmmdeliciousbacon]

Oh your computer voice speaking is a turn off. I switched off the video at the 1 minuye mark. So annoying and non-human.

[@OmiSagaisnotOSAma_22036]

I would be happy if the a350-1000 was retired cuz its ugly and has defects on engine and fuselage

[@aydoyt]

Poor Boeing fanboy

[@OmiSagaisnotOSAma_22036]

@@aydoyt I'm an EMBRAER fanboy not BOEING

[@r12004rewy]

Nicky O mk2

[@gerhardma4297]

What about your mental defects? I hope you are in treatment. Fuselage problem is solved and engine problems are not the fault auf Airbus.

[@alvinloh9068]

Says the one with an awful 787 livery, nightmareliner indeed.

[@nhall00195]

Qantas needs 50 A350s…not 24. A330 is too old and having significant maintenance issues now.

[@aryaansrivastava3756]

Agree, More Long routes then!

[@nhall00195]

A220 is flown by scabs

[@cocodog85]

scabs suck