A3GMunitions VR80 Long Handguard Adapter

[@georgedorbert5753]

Mark just bought a VR80 from you. Thanks for the videos.

[@mleeber]

Thank you! It is on the way. I am sure you will enjoy it!

[@whodey59]

The VR-80a already comes with an extended handguard I believe if you like that style.

[@mleeber]

Yes, it does come cerakoted with FDE and a factory Extended Handguard. You will still need this adapter to add a compensator or other muzzle device. I have had several of the VR80As in here and I do like them, the combination of FDE and Black looks pretty good.

[@lucasblanchard47]

@@mleeber that’s good to know! I have the VR80-A model, but I haven’t added anything to it yet. I have an adjustable stock and grip to replace the factory fixed thumbhole stock, but I haven’t swapped them on yet.

[@RockLander818]

Oil the screws?? Who does that?! 😂. Great video! Thank you.

[@mleeber]

Thank you!

[@mleeber]

I never use the castle nut on the new comps, the Allen screws work just fine.

[@mleeber]

Yes, you can add a fore grip to most of the RIA extended handguard and to our carbon fiber handguard.

[@brianchuck9264]

What's your thoughts on the extended hand guard.. holes --front and rear slide --for better prevention against the hot gases over the other models? Is that why its $175

[@mleeber]

@@brianchuck9264 The extended handguard gives you more options for hand placement so it mitigates the issues of your hand being in the path of escaping gasses. The version with holes does also reduce the gasses that may hit your hand but it will also heat up and hold more heat as the slots in the slotted rails allow better cooling. This is not an issue if you are just shooting 5-10 rounds with a slow cadence but if you are a competitive shooter that handguard will heat up quickly. The standard handguard is nice and small in diameter which competitive shooters like but that also puts your hands closer to the gas system. Add to that the front and rear rails on the handguard and the front sight placement and your options for a good place to hold the handguard is limited. If you are short or have shorter arms the extended handguard will probably not buy you anything though. And as for the price on the handguard with holes being a chunk more than the slotted version it is because it takes longer and is harder to make the hole version than the slot version. I highly recommend an extended handguard of some sort, it makes the gun more fun to shoot for longer periods.

[@brianchuck9264]

@@mleeber how about your carbon fiber one..have you tested it under heavy fire? I would definitely get one from you if results are favorable

[@mleeber]

@@brianchuck9264 Broke in 2 customer shotguns with the our carbon fiber handguard installed. 250 rounds in about 15 minutes for both guns. Carbon fiber was excellent, did not heat up and stayed rigid. We are not using crap carbon fiber, this is this high end stuff. Still shooting for mid-july for availability.

[@brianchuck9264]

@@mleeber you should create an email waiting list for the carbon Fibre ..good way to gauge demand ahead of production..and i would. Not be offended if you added me to the list :) let me know!

[@ZooLander788]

Any updates on when the Extended Handguard Adapter for the RIA VR80 will be restocked?

[@mleeber]

They are in annodizing now and then need to be packaged; I hope to have them in 2-3 weeks. I have 1000 of them on the way this time so should not run out for a while! Thank you!

[@a38scorpion]

Can you make a video on how to clean it and where to oil it? Pretty much all the maintenance that it needs . will be nice to know if i been doing it right. And it will be the first video on KZbin that show you how.

[@mleeber]

Yes I can. I will see if I can get something done next week.

[@a38scorpion]

Awesome thanks

[@diesel_gaming_9733]

Also very intrested in the carbon fiber hand guards looked on the site and I don't even see a slot for them Like to know if you would get any of those in any time soon

[@jamesdelong6401]

Do you offer handles with full-length picatinny rail underneath the forearm handle?. Or that something im going to have to get my gunsmith to take care of. What im trying to avoid is voiding my warranty

[@mleeber]

Hi James! For the VR80 I carry the Extended Handguard "Slots with Full Rail" and our own A3GMunitions Carbon Fiber Handguard both of which have MLOK slots on the bottom so you can install your favorite pic-rail adapters under the rail, or at 3 and 9 O'clock too. We also have the MLOK to picatinny adapters in stock. Thank you!

[@jamesdelong6401]

@@mleeber good morning, Mike. Thank you for the information. I will write this down and add it to my notes on build for my VR80. Thank you. Have a blessed day. 😎🤘🍻🇺🇸

[@MyNameIsMrSwifty]

What threads are the adapter making up to? Looks to short to reach the threads that the factory shroud screws on to.

[@mixflipextra]

I like that look. I might buy this shotgun just to get your adapter lol.

[@mr.lorenzo2646]

would love an extended hand guard to work with the 24" barrel and long comp.

[@juankyle3499]

Any news on receiving the Handguards?

[@mleeber]

Carbon Fiber is supposed to be here 1/15. All other components are suppossed to be here Monday so if all goes well they will be available 3rd week of January.

[@juankyle3499]

@@mleeber Great! It would be nice to backorder? I need the handguard and adapter :)

[@mleeber]

Slots with full rail RIA handguards are in stock as are the A3GMunitions Carbon Fiber ones.

[@Michael-vo8eu]

Can anyone advise me as to where I may purchase a set of half moon gas retainers for the gas system? I have 3 VR-80’s and want an extra set!

[@mleeber]

I have one set in my spares stock. Let's chat Monday after Shot Show.

[@rcairforceone]

Is there a dual or quad rail handguard for the VR80?

[@mleeber]

No, there are rails with Picatinny down the top and MLOK slots at 3, 6 and 9 o’clock though. I have them on the web site at A3GMunitions.com.

[@advancedxdirective]

Can we still fire slugs out of the compensator?

[@mleeber]

Yes, Slugs, buckshot or birdshot.

[@redstingraycorvette]

I notice your video is two years old I did not see the information for the Rock Island extended hand guards do you happen to have that information to

[@mleeber]

The RIA extended handguards are similar to my Carbon fiber one they are just an inch or two shorter and heavier. Good option for those who dont want a $300 handguard on a $600 gun. I carry them in my webstore as well at A3GMunitions.com

[@omenwolf2000]

Mleeber I take it that your adaptor uses the OD muzzle threads to lock down

[@mleeber]

Yes, it does.

[@Tony-vo5vs]

Saw on your website you have a door breach muzzle break. Will fit with original shroud? Or will I be unable to use original shroud w the door breach muzzle break?

[@mleeber]

On a standard VR80 you remove the long shroud and replace it with the "hat looking" lock nut that came in the box with your VR80. The half moon on the end of the tool that came with the VR80 is used to tighten the nut. This nut holds the handguard on instead of the long shroud. Then you mount the Door Breacher Muzzle Break and you are all set. The long shroud will not be needed anymore. I hope that helps, thank you for the question!

[@joseph941000able]

Is it possible to add a fore grip to the extended hand guard “holes front & rear rail?

[@mleeber]

I cannot remember if there are MLOK slots on the bottom of the "Holes front and rear rail" handguard but I have some one the way and will take a look and follow up. Thanks!

[@joseph941000able]

@@mleeber there is one slot at the very end of the hand guard underneath it. Usually I don’t see fore grips placed that high up so I’m not sure if that was intended more for something like a flashlight?

[@mleeber]

Yeah that is what I was afraid of. The Holes Front and Rear only has the MLOK at the end. You could probably attach a Picatinny section using holes but it would not be an MLOK rail section that you would attach. I will check inventory but I want to say that some of the old keymod rails had screws that you could take the stantions off of and just use nuts but I will have to check.

[@joseph941000able]

@@mleeber thank you. I appreciate your reply.

[@Hemidakota]

Is there a method in adding a Magpul forward grip?

[@mleeber]

If you mean a 90 degree foregrip then yes, many of the extended rails and my Carbon Fiber rail have MLOK slots on the bottom. I carry the Magpul AFG-2 and other pic rail sections as well as a few foregrips. Thanks! Mark

[@mcman237]

These have been out of stock for ages, when are y’all bringing it back?!??

[@mleeber]

Wish I had some control over this but the holdup is in Turkey or in getting them to the states.

[@dewkeating]

I checked out A3Gmuntions and all the handguards are sold out. Getting anymore soon?

[@mleeber]

Carbon Fiber is in stock and S-Slots with full rail should be here wednesday or Thursday.

[@dewkeating]

@@mleeber thank u

[@robertkwiatkoski1292]

do they have the same aftermarket items for the vr82 20??

[@mleeber]

I have Mag loaders and will be releasing a carbon fiber handguard soon. The Magazine Release springs work on the VR80 or 82 as do the extended mag release buttons.

[@redstingraycorvette]

I also wanted your opinion regarding other brands how they compare to Rock Island like GeForce panzer is Rock Island better than those brands.

[@mleeber]

I have carried or reviewed most of the Turkish guns and while the fit and function is similar, the RIA offering is the most robust and best supported. Citadel and GeForce are not bad but do not have the accessories or backing that RIA and specifically the VR80/VR82 have.

[@redstingraycorvette]

@@mleeber Thank you very much for your info

[@davidmorris9894]

What would be the process to send you my VR80 to install an elftman trigger?

[@mleeber]

Hi David! Right now I am backed up for a bit on gun work. The Elftmann is usually a drop in trigger and the toughest part is drifting the existing pins out since the hammer pin has a spline on one side. I have seen a little slop in some of the VR80 receivers that make the Elftmann a little tougher to install but those should be rare. If you still prefer to send it in you can shoot me an email through A3GMUNITIONS.COM and we can discuss further. Thanks!

[@neilcastelli1315]

This question is about the VR80 ammo vs the added parts. You guys seem to be well read on the VR80. I just purchased on and what ammo and brand and choke do you recommend I use for the 250 round break in ?

[@mleeber]

What I usually use is the Winchester SuperX Steel 1325FPS load. The payload does not matter and I got a bunch of it at Walmart. It was the only reasonably priced stuff over 1200 FPS. As for choke, it does nto matter during break-in, I usually leave the modified choke in.

[@neilcastelli1315]

@@mleeber Thank you. I guess you just leave the light load part in for break in right ?

[@mleeber]

@@neilcastelli1315 Yes, I suggest you leave the light one in always unless you are ONLY going to run 1400FPS or faster shells.

[@RallyMech]

Will there be an option for no slots at or behind the piston? Would be nice to not have to wrap that area to keep carbon off your hand, and the M-LOK slots aren't usable anyway.

[@mleeber]

On the carbon fiber Handguard we are toying with the idea of not having slots where the gas ports are but the reality is that because our Handguard is a little bugger than the factory unit and because carbon fiber does not conduct heat like aluminum we had no issue in testing even with the moon slots around the gas ports.

[@RallyMech]

@@mleeber If the only version available has slots, it's not the end of the world and I'd still buy one. I would just end up wrapping it like the factory handguard. It would just be nice and prevent any issues with people using too long of screws and bolting into the gas system causing problems/damage. Will there be multiple length options? Shorter barrels will likely be a thing in the near future.

[@mleeber]

@@RallyMech Only looking at one length right now but longer or shorter becomes pretty easy. RIA is offering a 24" barrel today and I am hopeful for an 18" version soon.

[@GreedyLittleFokker]

@@mleeber Is there any update on ETA/availability for the 18" barrel? Thanks.

[@javierarmstrong807]

Do you have any that going be made in the green they come in

[@mleeber]

No plans to do any of the sniper green color as a major production run but let me see if I can get a local cerakote shop to do it.

[@darrenbreckler3926]

Any update on production run. Sent an email to your webpage a week ago and still no response

[@mleeber]

Sorry about that, sounds like I need to check out an email issue. The Extended Handguard adapter is shipping and has been for several weeks. Here is the link www.a3gmunitions.com/product/a3gmunitions-com-extended-handguard-adapter-for-the-ria-vr80/

[@darrenbreckler3926]

mleeber my apologies I was inquiring about the carbon fiber hand guard

[@mleeber]

@@darrenbreckler3926 Looking and early July.

[@Mike-wh9dq]

What or who's stock and grip modifications did you do the this VR80 that you put the extended grip and medium compensator on? Is the stock now adjustable? Thank you.

[@mleeber]

Magpul CTR is thge stock, I also use and recommend the Hogue rubberized stock and the grip is a Hogue rubberized grip. Yes it is adjustable.

[@Mike-wh9dq]

@@mleeber Thank you.

[@marklinwarsaw]

Do you guys have a mewe presence?

[@mleeber]

Not really. Looked at it when it first came out but didn’t seem to go anywhere. I will have to take another look at it. Thanks!!

[@bonimontoya]

When will y’all have the hand guards in stock

[@mleeber]

I have the "Holes with front and rear rail" and the "Slots with rear rail" in stock but there are no more handguards in the US at this time. Not sure when we will see more.

[@josephbenge8707]

I would like to put a compensator on mine, but I am concerned about having to remove it so much when I clean the gun. I usually clean mine every time I shoot it. Does the constant tightening and untightening hurt the comp? Or do others just shoot a lot more rounds through theirs before cleaning?

[@mleeber]

I clean all my guns after every outing except shotguns. Shotgun powders are the fastest powders out there and unlike pistols that use a fast powder with a short barrel or rifles that use slower powders, shotguns are able to burn all the powder in the shell while the payload is still in the barrel. This usually means cleaner burning and a cleaner gun. The wads do wreak havoc on the inside of the choke tubes and that is where I focus most of my regular efforts. The action gets oil regularly but cleaning...usually every 500-700 rounds. As long as you are careful when you remove the comp you will not hurt the threads or the comp. In fact, I know several competitive shooters who will remove their comp and soak them in gun cleaner for a few days to get the lead and carbon out of them. On gas guns like the VR80 if you keep the piston system oiled well with a quality oil it will foul far less and be easier to clean. My goto oils are Rem Oil or Mobil 1 5W-30 or 10W40. It is also pretty easy to oil the piston system on the VR80 without removing the handguard if you have a needle oiler.

[@darrenbreckler3926]

Am I understanding this correctly that your saying to oil the piston? I have heard the exact opposite including the manual?

[@Xachary500]

Does that handguard work for the VR70 as well?

[@mleeber]

Unofrtunately I have not tried it on a VR70 so I cannot say it will.

[@AD-inostuf]

Question about the threaded gas cylinder lock down coupling, mine does not lock down, I can pull on it and pull it off the double locking rings... is this abnormal (was factory sent this way) thus my question.

[@mleeber]

Can you post a picture? Are there threads inside the “coupling”? I am having a hard time visualizing what you are talking about. Thanks!

[@MFBSzNova]

for some reason my short comp wont tighten at all, any way you could help or give me some insight? it looks like the screws are as far as they can go

[@mleeber]

I need to update the video. It seems the phosphate finish has changed on the comps. Take the screws all the way out, put a drop if oil under the screwhead on the screw not in the comp and then hold the comp upside down while you screw them back in preventing the oil from leeching down the threads. You should be able to tighten it better once you do this. Thanks!

[@MFBSzNova]

@@mleeber well the screw got stripped by trying to do it how the video said and i cant get it out so i guess im fucked til i can figure it out. any way i could get two new screws in case i can get this one out?

[@mleeber]

@UCTYKgjrUErxa2dMeyD93ozA I have fix that all the time. I take a drill bit the a little bigger than the allen key and drill the head off then needle nose eaasily unscrew the shank of the screw. I think they are M5x25 screws but I will have to check. I would also invest in a good set of allen keys.

[@mleeber]

@@MFBSzNova Email me privately your order number so I have your address.

[@MFBSzNova]

@@mleeber for sure, thanks

[@islanderson691]

Can you put a foward grip instead?

[@mleeber]

You can add any MLOK compatible item to most of the RIA extended Handguards and our Carbon Fiber one.

[@islanderson691]

@@mleeber thank you

[@DWoo-ke9gb]

Put a forearm grip on it. Been nice to see the gun after

[@diesel_gaming_9733]

Was checking yalls website looks like you are sold out of all the ones with full rail on top any idea when they will be in stock

[@allcapsboy9139]

JUST GOT MINE!

[@pault.9266]

With the extended handguard adapter do you not use the castle nut that came with the comp originally ?

[@mleeber]

I do not use the lock ring (looks like a castle nut) on any of the new comps. The Allen screws that you tighten do a fine job of keeping the comp in place and timed where you set it. I alternate tightening the screws 1/8 turn back and forth. Because the long comp is so much heavier you may have to tighten it again after shooting it, I have had a couple walks little under recoil and I just had to snug them a little more at the range.

[@brianchuck9264]

Do you have a price for the carbon fiber hand guard? And are you still on target for July ?

[@mleeber]

Price will be $249.95 and we are still on target for mid-July. Thank you!

[@brianchuck9264]

@@mleeber Ok ill be in touch..what's your work email?

[@mleeber]

[e-mail]

[@brianchuck9264]

What is the total length of the stock VR80 with medium compensator installed? Trying to determine rifle bag size needed..Thanks Mark

[@mleeber]

40 inches with a Magpul CTR collapsed.

[@brianchuck9264]

In your experience what is the difference in recoil between the medium amd short? Trying to decide if the extra length and weight is worth it for perceived recoil ...Thanks

[@mleeber]

Honestly I feel like the short comp is better for muzzle rise while the medium is better for felt recoil but they are so close that it almost a wash. I will say that I run a short on my personal VR80. From a "Cool" perspective the medium and long do look cooler which let's face it, is important if your VR80 is just for fun but in a match environment I would choose the short over the other two styles.

[@dominicjones7790]

How much would it cost for you to custom my VR80 as well?

[@mleeber]

Depends on what you want done. We are about to release an A3GMunitions version of the VR80 that comes pretty well equipped.

[@grandparob41]

Is there any way to install a handgrip underneath the handguard?

[@mleeber]

Not on the factory handguard. The extended handguards have MLOK compatible slots on the bottom but the factory one does not. Here is a link to the extended handguards we have in stock www.a3gmunitions.com/product/vr-80-extended-handguards/. We do not expect to see any of the other styles until next year according to RIA.

[@rodericknelson8371]

Hello..i have a question in regards to the comp sizes. Which size comp is equivalent to the original standard size that comes with the gun? I was guessing the medium size comp would be but wasn't sure. Thanks

[@mleeber]

A comp does not come on the standard gun or the VR80-A model gun. There was an IPSC model that was pretty scarce and I believe it came with the long compensator. There is a shroud that holds the handguard on but it is not a comp. I run the short on my personal gun because I like a shorter overall length. That said most people run the long. Out of 10 comps sold 6 are usually the long model, 3 are medium and 1 is short.

[@rodericknelson8371]

@@mleeber ok thanks. I was meaning to say the size comparisons to the original compressor to the 3 comp sizes you offer.

[@tigergray1100]

Is this legal in California?

[@f3nixfire]

What if I want to have a standard size hand guard but with m lok or a picatanny rail to add a fore grip and a light? Is there anything like that available?

[@popacap]

I know right over disappointed about this

[@mleeber]

The hand guard on the VR80 is said to be MLok compatible so you could get an MLok picatinny rail section and mount it to the top, bottom or sides of the factory hand guard and then mount whatever you like. I have yet to test this myself on the VR80 but I will be doing so over the next week or two.

[@f3nixfire]

@@mleeber it has mlok slots on the sides of the handguard but there is nothing on the bottom at all. I want slots on the bottom for a vertical fore grip. Even the slots on the sides of the handguard are so close to the piston that I'm not sure you could even mount anything without hitting it on the inside because of how the handguard shrinks up and hugs the barrel

[@mleeber]

@@f3nixfire You are correct, the factory short hand guard does not have slots in the bottom and all but the shortest mlok addons will interfere with the gas system. However the extended handguards do have slots on the bottom and will allow the addition of longer mlok devices. I recommend the Extended Handguard with slots and full rail for those who like backup iron sights and a red dot.

[@f3nixfire]

@@mleeber ok thank you. I'll be ordering that soon then

[@peterhsia8195]

Do you have the full rail slot extended handguard in the coyote brown?

[@mleeber]

No, I do not stock that item but I can order one if you want to place a special order. Thanks!

[@peterhsia8195]

Yes I would be interested in that. What would be the cost?

[@eyeofthestorm67]

bro put your link for your business in your videos next time

[@venomgt7299]

Not out yet???

[@mleeber]

Close, very close. Covid totally destoyed the schedule of my subcontractors.

[@larryholland5711]

Can you ad a grip to that hand guard?

[@mleeber]

The hand guard is supposed to be MLok compatible but I do not have an MLok fore grip to test.

[@arnellcarmichael635]

I put an 8 slot M-Lok rail on the bottom of the hand guard. Just make sure that your locking nut is at the tip of the screw before affixing it to the hand guard, or it will not work correctly. If you get one, you'll know exactly what I'm talking about upon assembly. Checkout this out at Amazon.com UTG PRO 8-Slot M-LOK(R) Picatinny Rail Section, FDE Cerakote(R) www.amazon.com/dp/B01FW5MTLU/ref=cm_sw_r_other_apa_i_AHQwFbYSXJR30

[@thelurker9472]

I just want a stock length handguard that will allow me to have rails on the bottom without drilling into the stock one.

[@mleeber]

I may have a solution for you, need to test something. I will post back shortly. Thank you!

[@CaliforniaHotBoyTV]

Am I able to still use the factory shroud?

[@mleeber]

If you are asking if you can use the factory shroud with our Carbon Fiber Handguard the answer is yes if you have the "short" shroud that comes with the extended handguards. The long shroud that comes with the factory standard handguard will not work.

[@CaliforniaHotBoyTV]

mleeber oh ok got it. Where can I get the “short shroud”? I don’t have that part and can’t seem to find it. Thanks!

[@mleeber]

@@CaliforniaHotBoyTV Unfortunately RIA has not released the short ones. You should have received one with the extended handguard if you bought one. I am hoping RIA has them available by the time I am shipping the carbon fiber HG.

[@CaliforniaHotBoyTV]

mleeber oh my mistake I read that wrong. I was thinking you said it comes with the handguard the from factory. So just to be clear the “Slot Full Rail” comes with the “short shroud” my next question is does the short shroud look like the long shroud? I like how the long shroud looks.

[@MrHoneybeeScratcher]

I think you need to lower your prices

[@big00bull]

Or you can wear gloves

[@TheDmgmonster]

Do you know of a hand guard for the VR80 that has a picatinny rail on the bottom side?

[@mleeber]

The hand guard on the VR80 is said to be MLok compatible so you could get an MLok picatinny rail section and mount it to the top, bottom or sides of the factory hand guard and then mount whatever you like. I have yet to test this myself on the VR80 but I will be doing so over the next week or two.

[@arnellcarmichael635]

I put an 8 slot M-Lok rail on the bottom of the hand guard. Just make sure that your locking nut is at the tip of the screw before affixing it to the hand guard, or it will not work correctly. If you get one, you'll know exactly what I'm talking about upon assembly. Checkout this out at Amazon.com UTG PRO 8-Slot M-LOK(R) Picatinny Rail Section, FDE Cerakote(R) www.amazon.com/dp/B01FW5MTLU/ref=cm_sw_r_other_apa_i_AHQwFbYSXJR30