I been shooting 1650fps with the light piston over 250+ rounds in and still has feeding issues, do you have any recommendations or advice? Thank you!
@mleeberАй бұрын
What type of feeding issues? Is the fired round ejecting all the way? Please give me a little more info. Thank you!
@itsalldai5846Ай бұрын
@@mleeber the round isn’t ejecting all the way, I say about 3x out of 9 rounds the shell will get jammed. Sometimes I’m lucky and can shoot a whole mag no issue but most of the time it Jamming or getting stuck on the feeding ramp. Everything is clean and oiled up very well but still won’t work properly
@olinsalmon5912 ай бұрын
I thoroughly cleaned/ deburred before I ever shot it. First 100 rounds of Winchester clay 8shot 1300 fps only 2 Stove pipes , and they were at just under 30 rounds. Second range trip 150 rounds same ammo NO failures. Also only have the 5 round mags. So far, it's been beautiful. I now have to run 1150 1200 fps. Fingers crossed.
@mleeber2 ай бұрын
Sounds like you have a good one and set it up for a successful first range trip! Although none of them are realy bad ones, they just need a little more attention. 9-Round mags are a great choice for this platform, even with the +3 mag bases we carry they are not too heavy when fully loaded. If you have not already upgraded the stock, grip and added an extended Handguard those are the inexpensive and easy choices that will make the gun handle even better. Welcome to the AR-12 club!
@tao2652 ай бұрын
Hey Mark - when you say “hot” are you referring to anything above 1350 fps AND 3 inch? I’m about to buy one and want to break it in correctly. Thanks in advance.
@mleeber2 ай бұрын
Yes, ideally "Hot" is 1350 or faster but I have made 1325s work. 1350s are still pretty scarce so I usually end up using 1325s which are usually available at walmart. The 1325s I get have plated shot but the payload does not matter.
@mammonclarke3 ай бұрын
I don't understand anyone that complains about an excuse tongontonthenrange and put 250 rounds througbyour brand new shotgun. Why the hell did you buy it if you don't want to practice with it and use it? I think the 250 round "break-in" is just a genius excuse someone at the factory told their wife the first day they brought it home. "I had to buy the ammo and head to the range, Dear. It says so right in the owners manual." Although I have to say I did just that. Bought the VR80 and a bunch of 1350 buck shot went to my favorite spot I didn't have a single miss feed or or stovepipe in that 250 nor since.
@davidsmyth57704 ай бұрын
Love my Rollsizer. I added the manual Rollsizer to my 1930s Craftsman metal lathe and was able to adapt it to my needs. Slow and steady does it. It takes about 25 minutes to roll 500 cases. I've already done most of the cases in storage and will do batches as I need more to reload. I do have a video of my setup if you want it.
@mikejwhaley6 ай бұрын
Do you recommend 2 3/4 or 3 inch shells or does it not matter as long as you are using 1325 for the break in?
@mleeber3 ай бұрын
Sorry for the delay, for some reason my gmail notifications have stopped. 3 inch shells will not fit well in the magazine so you need to stick with 2 3/4. For break-in I use the hottest shells I can find that are reasonably priced which typically are the 1325 winchesters that are plated shot.
@billyfleshman74517 ай бұрын
Duse it matter high brass or low brass
@javierarmstrong8077 ай бұрын
Do you have any that going be made in the green they come in
@mleeber7 ай бұрын
No plans to do any of the sniper green color as a major production run but let me see if I can get a local cerakote shop to do it.
@ZooLander7887 ай бұрын
Any updates on when the Extended Handguard Adapter for the RIA VR80 will be restocked?
@getreal33367 ай бұрын
Great vid! 👍
@mleeber7 ай бұрын
Thank you!!!
@jamesdelong64018 ай бұрын
Good evening, mark. Nice product
@mleeber8 ай бұрын
Thank you! I'll bring you one at the next match.
@24-7gamerzone8 ай бұрын
Collar avaliable yet?!
@joekn6mrz3629 ай бұрын
Thank you. Very helpful.
@mleeber9 ай бұрын
You're welcome!
@kamilhorvat82909 ай бұрын
Looks nice. With 24/7 operation, even this small DC Rollsizer can process 1 million cases per month :-)
@bbarton849 ай бұрын
Which gas ring do you use?
@mleeber9 ай бұрын
Always use the light piston unless you are only going to use the gun for 1500+FPS ammunition. And I would always break it in with the light piston.
@bbarton849 ай бұрын
@@mleeber thank you!!
@Xachary5009 ай бұрын
Does that handguard work for the VR70 as well?
@jamesdelong640111 ай бұрын
Do you offer handles with full-length picatinny rail underneath the forearm handle?. Or that something im going to have to get my gunsmith to take care of. What im trying to avoid is voiding my warranty
@jamesdelong640111 ай бұрын
What is the reason for a comp? Many for competing? I never fully understood the reason for a comp. Just making sure im buying what i need for my VR80 and dont need.
@mleeber11 ай бұрын
James, a comp usually serves one or both of two purposes, mitigation of recoil and reduction of muzzle rise. Oh and a third could be pissing off those around you at the range because they make shooting next to you a terrible experience with a much louder report and gasses vented to the sides :-). In the case of the VR80 the "New Style Short" comp pretty effectively keeps the muzzle from rising by venting most of the gasses behind the shot column upwards hence pushing down on the front of the barrel. "The New Style Long" also focuses most of the gas upwards but it also redirects a little more of the gases rearward at a 45 degree angle thant he short one does which reduces felt recoil a little as well as keeping the muzzle down. The Medium comp does a little of both; in the hands of most people the medium reduces muzzle rise and felt recoil about equally but is worse with muzzle rise than either the short or long. I personally run a short on my competition shotgun because I prefer shorter guns and the VR80 is so long anyway that the long just makes it too long to be manuverable. And, most folks seem to buy the medium for the "cool" look from what customers tell me. Hope that helps!
@jamesdelong640111 ай бұрын
@mleeber ok. I'm glad you cleared up how they work. Yes, if the short comp helps in all what you said. I'll be getting that. I'm all about making sure shots stay on target and help with recoil and muzzle rise. After I break-in my VR80 I'll be adding that hogue but stock we talked about with a ether Jerry Miculek magnetic buffer or a kynshot hydraulic buffer. According to kynshot and rock island they recommend I break-in the shotgun 1st before adding the kynshot hydraulic buffer. Yes. I plan on oiling the CRAP out the piston and the bolt guide rails before and buring range days. Thank you for all your help here.
@jamesdelong640111 ай бұрын
Nice product, Mark
@rickcrainger2846 Жыл бұрын
Hey Mark, I may have relied to the wrong place but your saying that the magazine may now be the issue that I'm having now regarding my FTF at times??? I have read and seen some videos about sanding down the tabs which I've tried, I also heard of "tuned up magazines" that I can buy?? thanks for your time, Rick
@jamesdelong6401 Жыл бұрын
Good morning, Mark. Thank you for these videos. I'm most definitely, writer everything down on this. I know I'm looking forward to getting my VR80 soon
@jamesdelong6401 Жыл бұрын
What adjustable stock do you recommend for the VR80 and to use in conjunction with kynshot hydraulic buffer?
@jamesdelong6401 Жыл бұрын
What adjustable butt stock do you recommend to change out the stock VR80 model for when adding a kynshot hydraulic buffer?
@jamesdelong6401 Жыл бұрын
@mleeber good morning, mleeber. Thank you for your time here and information. Yes. If the Hogue stock and grip work in conjunction and work with commercial buffer tube on the VR80 and with the kynshot hydraulic buffer. Then I'll get the Hogue. I'll be looking for it online Friday for it. 😎🤘🍻
@user-rh9li8zw2l Жыл бұрын
Awesome video again Mark!!
@mleeber Жыл бұрын
Thank you Rick!!!
@user-rh9li8zw2l Жыл бұрын
Hey Mark, not sure if my other reply went to the right place. I’m using the two 5 round mags that it came with. I’ve seen a few videos to sand here/there which I’ve tried. I also saw somewhere that you can buy tuned up magazine, IDK. Can the magazine be why I’m having intermittent FTF??
@rickcrainger2846 Жыл бұрын
I'm having some light strike's on my rounds so I'm wondering if I need to replace the firing pin spring. I've completely broke it down and cleaned/lubricated everything. I have less than 200 rounds thru it. Any thoughts or recommendations??? thanks Rick
@mleeber Жыл бұрын
Hi Rick! I assume the trigger group in your gun is stock. If so the first thing to check is the barrel seat in the receiver. Sometimes the barrels on these guns dont get secured as well as we like and they "ease" out of the receiver. Take the handguard off and there is an allen key set screw underneath the front of the upper receiver. There are acutally two in there, one is supposed to secure the other. They are metric, 4mm I think but don't hold me to that. Take the first one out, put the butstock of the shotgun on a table and loosen the remaining one while pushing the barrel towards the table and then retighten the set screw and add the second one. In every case that has been sent my way this has fixed the light strike. It is less about the speed or force of the hammer or firing pin and more about the primer being too far forward because the barrel is not seated properly. If that does not fix it shoot me an email with a photo. Thanks! Mark
@JayyKiddDon Жыл бұрын
Does the vr80 shoot well with the 10 round SDS Imports magazine on the A3Gmunitions website? I can't find any 9 round magazines anywhere so I want to get something in between the 5 round and 19round mags.
@rogerray2545 Жыл бұрын
It took about a 150 rounds to break in my G force
@mleeber Жыл бұрын
125 is about average for me but this latest one took right at 132 including the last 12 to test the function. I have a couple GForces in stock but I have never broken one of them in. Granted it is getting so hard to find any shells with some velocity I expect it may start taking quite a bit more.
@rogerray2545 Жыл бұрын
I can find them here in Texas but there are $18 a box and that's hard to break in with those
@mleeber Жыл бұрын
@@rogerray2545 When Texas runs out of Shotgun shells we are all in trouble!!! I grew up in Dallas and still consider myself a Texan but I only get back a couple times a year.
@user-rh9li8zw2l Жыл бұрын
Do you any tips on the magazine tune ups??? I’ve read there may tips to help feed issues 🤷🏼♂️
@rcairforceone Жыл бұрын
Is there a dual or quad rail handguard for the VR80?
@prawnstar502 Жыл бұрын
that shotgun got more oil than the middle east
@redstingraycorvette Жыл бұрын
I also wanted your opinion regarding other brands how they compare to Rock Island like GeForce panzer is Rock Island better than those brands.
@mleeber Жыл бұрын
I have carried or reviewed most of the Turkish guns and while the fit and function is similar, the RIA offering is the most robust and best supported. Citadel and GeForce are not bad but do not have the accessories or backing that RIA and specifically the VR80/VR82 have.
@redstingraycorvette Жыл бұрын
@@mleeber Thank you very much for your info
@redstingraycorvette Жыл бұрын
I notice your video is two years old I did not see the information for the Rock Island extended hand guards do you happen to have that information to
@mleeber Жыл бұрын
The RIA extended handguards are similar to my Carbon fiber one they are just an inch or two shorter and heavier. Good option for those who dont want a $300 handguard on a $600 gun. I carry them in my webstore as well at A3GMunitions.com
@5150dolimite Жыл бұрын
Thank you
@Taenamo Жыл бұрын
Now make sense why when I took my VR80 for the first time at the range it keeps jamming. Thought it was the ammo
@borri68 Жыл бұрын
It took about $500 in premium ammo to break in a $700 shotgun. ROFL!!!
@dylanjohnson8636 Жыл бұрын
In terms of break-in, should I use 2 3/4” or 3” shells? Does it matter? Also, do they need to be high brass? I’ve read some reviews of people claiming low brass shells don’t feed well before the gun is broken in…
@mleeber Жыл бұрын
Hi Dylan! It does not matter as long as they are 1350 FPS or so. Low Brass or High Brass does not matter nor does the payload, slug, buck or birdshot. I have never had problems with low brass even during break in but some of the low brass shells are a bigger pain to load in the mags bc the brasson the one you are inserting catches on the one in the mag which is why I developed the mag loaders.
@Michael-vo8eu Жыл бұрын
Can anyone advise me as to where I may purchase a set of half moon gas retainers for the gas system? I have 3 VR-80’s and want an extra set!
@23RO Жыл бұрын
If you smear grease on the bottom of the BoltBuffer you'll see if the magazines are rubbing it, preventing cycling. I had to sand the paint off the mag lips and front ears. I think thats the real problem. They have too thick of paint coating on the magazines.
@756766 Жыл бұрын
Great Video, Mark. Thank you.
@mleeber Жыл бұрын
You are very welcome!
@jamesberna6099 Жыл бұрын
Can you reccomend the exact "heavy" rounds to shoot the 250 thru it? There's a ton of choices!
@mleeber Жыл бұрын
The Winchester 1325 Steel shot is a good choice and inexpensive if you can find it. Walmart is the best place to look in my experience.
@bervins9582 Жыл бұрын
What web site for orange chamber view flag, thanks.
@JoseSanchez-xu9sw2 жыл бұрын
How u install front had grip doesn't got options like top
@mleeber2 жыл бұрын
The factory short handguard does not have MLOK slots on the bottom. You can drill or dremel into it to attache a picatinny rail section or you can upgrade to an Extended Handguard. We carry the RIA versions as well as our own Carbon Fiber version. Thank you!
@PatriotPaulUSA2 жыл бұрын
Nice Video. Sounds like your mags aren't dragging on the bolt, and need the 2 front "ears" filed as many VR80's have. Those mag clearance issues, seems to cause these extended break ins and those folks also end up with a scratched bolt. I have seen other "experts" who do VR 80 competition shooting recommend to do a disassemble and clean after only 100 rounds, especially the gas piston. I guess it depends on the ammo being shot and how dirty the powder used is. Also many have reported burrs on the gas ports. The more of us shooting and using these will get to see a better picture emerge for these "break in" numbers I suppose. At least now we know what to look for,( the gas port burrs and magazine dragging on the bolt slowing it down and prevent full chambering as well as scratching the bolt.) I Just picked up 10 - 9 round mags so I am going thru them 1 by 1 and checking.
@joseph941000able2 жыл бұрын
Is it possible to add a fore grip to the extended hand guard “holes front & rear rail?
@mleeber2 жыл бұрын
I cannot remember if there are MLOK slots on the bottom of the "Holes front and rear rail" handguard but I have some one the way and will take a look and follow up. Thanks!
@joseph941000able2 жыл бұрын
@@mleeber there is one slot at the very end of the hand guard underneath it. Usually I don’t see fore grips placed that high up so I’m not sure if that was intended more for something like a flashlight?
@mleeber2 жыл бұрын
Yeah that is what I was afraid of. The Holes Front and Rear only has the MLOK at the end. You could probably attach a Picatinny section using holes but it would not be an MLOK rail section that you would attach. I will check inventory but I want to say that some of the old keymod rails had screws that you could take the stantions off of and just use nuts but I will have to check.
@joseph941000able2 жыл бұрын
@@mleeber thank you. I appreciate your reply.
@neilcastelli13152 жыл бұрын
This question is about the VR80 ammo vs the added parts. You guys seem to be well read on the VR80. I just purchased on and what ammo and brand and choke do you recommend I use for the 250 round break in ?
@mleeber2 жыл бұрын
What I usually use is the Winchester SuperX Steel 1325FPS load. The payload does not matter and I got a bunch of it at Walmart. It was the only reasonably priced stuff over 1200 FPS. As for choke, it does nto matter during break-in, I usually leave the modified choke in.
@neilcastelli13152 жыл бұрын
@@mleeber Thank you. I guess you just leave the light load part in for break in right ?
@mleeber2 жыл бұрын
@@neilcastelli1315 Yes, I suggest you leave the light one in always unless you are ONLY going to run 1400FPS or faster shells.
@giovanni20122 жыл бұрын
What type of oil exactly are you using? Do avoid using CLP on the Piston?
@mleeber2 жыл бұрын
I use Mobil 1 5w30 and Rem Oil exclusively. Rem Oil for colder weather and tight tolerance parts and Mobil 1 for hot weather and looser tolerances. I am not a fan of CLP.
@GunsNGames2482 жыл бұрын
has anyone used 2 3/4 hot loads all the time with the heavy piston. I'm talking 1400 fps to 1610 fps.
@mleeber2 жыл бұрын
I know a few folks in the northeast who use their VR80s exclusively for deer hunting in Slug only counties and all are running 1560FPS "Slugger" slugs using the havy piston.
@GunsNGames2482 жыл бұрын
@@mleeber ok.cool. ima try it out
@GunsNGames2482 жыл бұрын
I use 1600 slugs all the time but it said 2 3/4 for the light piston and 3 inch for heavy load even though i shoot very fast loads. I wanted to try out the heavy piston so see if it would work
@mleeber2 жыл бұрын
If all you shoot is 1600 FPS I would put the heavy oiston in and leave it in. Thanks!!!
@GunsNGames2482 жыл бұрын
@@mleeber so it doesn't matter if it's not 3 inch shells. lol no one ever mentions that. the manual says only 3 inch for heavy piston but I was wondering like well im shooting hot stuff maybe the heavy one will work but I'm still using 2 3/4... I use 1400 to 1610
@mleeber2 жыл бұрын
@@GunsNGames248 I think this is how the RIA instruction manual tried to make it "easy" for some of the newer/younger shooters who don't have any idea what FPS means. Few 3" shells are less than 1500FPS and when buying shells the 3" magnums are perceived as high velocity no matter what the payload is. 90% of the 2 3/4" loads are 1150-1300 FPS so it is a safe bet for a manufacturer to use shell length for shotgun shells as the determining factor and it makes it easy for the younger generation most of whom did not grow up with a mentor who taught them about firearms and ballistics.
@GunsNGames2482 жыл бұрын
@@mleeber right so I should be able to shoot anything 1450 and above using the heavy piston in 2 and 3/4