A7Siii Low Light Test - a Bit of a Situation

[@korrze]

I got the a7siii and live in seattle where it's dark 9 months out of the year. And it has been a DREAM in editing. So clean and easy to grade!

[@_gatsby]

i have all this gear, and then whine to myself that i have no friends (or a girl) to go shoot for fun with, and then you go and get up before the sun, just to shoot... "stuff".. i am very impressed dude! ..truly enjoying being a "part" of your journey

[@RCodyWanner]

I know what you mean - that voice is in all of our heads 🙏🏼

[@MichaelREFLECTS]

Same here. Dont worry about it. You dont need no girl to have fun with this gear. Nature's more interesting anyways

[@JamieMcEwanOfficial]

Incredible how clean that footage looks at high ISO. It's like having night vision!

[@TheLAexplorer]

2:09 Why does the image quality get bad when you keep the ISO high and crank up the aperture? I thought that the amount of noise would stay the same.

[@dylanevans5644]

The noise will be roughly the same, actually even a bit better as you open the aperture and allow more light into the camera. It looks like there is more noise simply because the additional light in the image makes it easier to see.

[@AuthenTech]

Such an incredible performer

[@RCodyWanner]

the camera right? 😅

[@dunnadidit]

Okay... my big question is... why would your car alarm go off if you unlock it with the key for the car?

[@RCodyWanner]

All of my previous cars did that haha! I found out in the comments of this video that most cars made after 2010 do not

[@2cool0]

@@RCodyWanner idk what cars you have or those people have but none of the cars I have ever seen everrrrrrrrrrrrrr had the alarm go off if you open it with the key.

[@MaddJakd]

Older-ish cars.... And different makes

[@JakeSloan]

I’m glad you got one of these cameras. I’ve had mine since launch day and Holy crap is it an incredible tool for creators. I have been blown away by the photos but the high iso performance is just mind blowing!!

[@ehJoe]

Love how you did this, especially the ending, one of those vids thats over and you want more, your editing is just 🔥

[@RCodyWanner]

Thank you Joe 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼

[@RangerRickTV]

the footage looks amzing. Was any color grading done or is this straight from the camera?

[@RCodyWanner]

Just straight out yep! Standard color profile

[@helloitsmejunely]

Thank you sooo much for these low light test shots! They look amazing!

[@chadwebster1187]

Ok. This was crazy sick. That camera is mind blowing. 🤯🤯🤯

[@ThisIsTechToday]

I was waiting for you to crack up about being over 80,000 ISO because I was cracking up. Insanity!!

[@RCodyWanner]

Hahahaha

[@charlieandytv]

Great test footage Cody!

[@chrismumma8739]

Cody, this is what I call an awesome review! You can also tell you love that camera!

[@antiphonylife5044]

Dude! Unreal in low light! Also, I have to say. Your city with all of the purple lights looks SO cool. Really impressive stuff all around!

[@JohnnyQ]

That shot of the moon and the spiderweb on the bridge was awesome.

[@CANNOTDIEFILMS]

Super appreciate this test footage. You made watching it enjoyable! Getting my own A7Siii this weekend! Stoked.

[@kf6808]

Man that ISO!!! And I confess I commented on your initial A7Siii vid that I wasn’t convinced due to the distracting auto focus. This is a game changer! I was laughing with you at the “ISO 80,000” comment, it’s madness! Also, those lights on the Harrisburg bridges are just fantastic

[@DarzRojas]

Wow. Gorgeous shots and incredible camera 🤯

[@rawanner7]

Whew!! Those shots! The edit ! The Music! A7Siii is insane And I gotta say- you’ve taken this work up a Level, Code! Gorgeous work. and yea...Key fob- win

[@RCodyWanner]

Wow thanks so much Dad! Had to rush on this on so didn’t get the audio mix right, but yes, just love these visuals ❤️❤️

[@JackStolz]

Cody I love it man. It's so crazy to see a camera that legitimately makes creating so much easier. The end was the best BTW. My Toyota's key fob is dead as well and I always assume the alarm is gonna pop but never does.

[@RCodyWanner]

Only 6$ at the dealership to replace the battery!

[@jessbreheret]

speechless... when you were cranking the iso up i was like " wait is this unlimited iso ?! XD " and when the stars revealed on the bridge :o ! its really crazy , crazy impressive & practical !

[@RCodyWanner]

Haha what if that was the marketing point, “unlimited ISO”

[@neillroberts4019]

Wow wow wow!!! I just can’t believe it!! That’s incredible Cody! Thanks for bracing the cold to get these beautiful shots! Absolutely loved the vlog! Please get another car remote battery hahahahah. Thanks Cody!!!

[@RyanMichaelss]

😂😂 what an awesome double narrative in the vid dude! Had me HOOKED!

[@Chrismassiegolf]

That camera is such a beast of a camera all around, I seriously thought the alarm was going to go off but thankfully it didn't.

[@KaceySue]

I just love how real and honest your reviews are! I liked seeing what the camera images looked like when you cracked the iso up. I’m debating whether or not to upgrade from my GH5 and seeing the low light capability on the Sony was mind blowing 🤯

[@RCodyWanner]

I need to do a low light test, gh5 vs this

[@JustSamOfficial]

Mind blowing footage man...Wow!!!

[@KrizAkoni]

That’s some epic low light performance.

[@AndyLifeInVideo]

Low Light King killing it as always!

[@AmritaBhortake]

How??? How is the footage that crisp? LOVE it. Also, can we talk about that fire shot at 0:49sec?

[@RCodyWanner]

Thank you!!

[@MohnishD]

Love your personality!! Getting those Harvey Specter Vibes

[@CraigRivest]

At 6:10, has to be my favorite shot, color and composition, looks killer!

[@aliruane]

Really useful to know. Got to Get one of these. Thanks Cody.

[@VeeTravels]

Very incredible footage, Cody. I like your angled shots. I was thinking whether it would have been better to have it locked at 12,800 ISO for this video if it is SLOG3? I was going to do a low light video on my A7SIII at the beach as well in SLOG3. I am wondering if having it locked between 12,800 and 25,600 ISO range would be ideal. I am going to have it in aperture priority mode so if it gets too bright in places, the shutter will go way up to compensate. I do not want it to go any lower than 12,800 to prevent unwanted noise.

[@RCodyWanner]

thanks so much! did you end up shooting this??

[@MichaelVeerman]

@@RCodyWanner not yet. I ended up doing my most recent video in HLG3

[@JacobCarlson]

These videos hit different once you've been to Harrisburg and can recognize most of the locations. 😎

[@RCodyWanner]

Oh snap yes!!!

[@ExtremelySimplified]

Incredible sensitivity! great video BTW.

[@RCodyWanner]

thank you!

[@halfphild]

"... So to be able to shoot, in the dark, lol..." Exactly my thoughts. So good. Great work here. Love it all.

[@JamieMcEwanOfficial]

I don't think that double A battery trick is common knowledge, but I'm glad to see someone else from a colder place who knows it ;)

[@RCodyWanner]

Hahahahah

[@TheFriendlyReviewer]

Looks amazing!

[@wparo]

Good vid. I don't understand why would you film in f5 in low light?

[@RCodyWanner]

you could shoot wide open (2.8) if you need to, but f5 gives you a bit more depth of focus - it’s all up to whatever you are going for

[@BlakeGraham]

Great stuff Cody.

[@Zarabozo]

What was your aperture setting at 1:00?

[@RCodyWanner]

F13 - so that I could hit all those ISO’s without blowing out the image completely

[@hurricane1031]

Wow amazing camera. Great video. Music was 🔥

[@Alakazam2047]

Just the kind of a7siii video I was looking for, thank you! Do you recommend shooing in manual for video?

[@RCodyWanner]

I shoot manual with auto iso, yep!

[@DesertCookie]

Why does the alarm go off when opening the car with the key? Yes, it's an old technique, but I know no car that does this - electrical key fob or not. The key always is a backup option to open the car when the car or key fob has no power (except Teslas and other cars using a key card I guess). My experience is limited to a 1990s VW Bus, 2000s VW Sharan, 1990s Volvo, 2010s BMW, plus some I don't know the name of anymore (obviously not my cars, family and friends I have observed over the years).

[@JordanKuznia]

It’s amazing what’s that camera is capable of! These real life examples are mind blowing. Looking forward to future daily vlogs!

[@marcandamalia]

“I broke all the filmmaking rules to get the shot i needed” -Cody Wanner

[@TAPPChannel]

Low light looks great on that beast... is GH5s close to this quality or its a totally different level?!

[@RCodyWanner]

I think the gh5 can get to 3,200 safely, MAYBE

[@TAPPChannel]

Cody Wanner Cody Wanner I have GH5s and this one is better than GH5. It can go easily to 10000 but it has no IBIS so handheld shots are garbage. You can see its low light performance in the 1st min of my channels intro video

[@angryrabbitproductions1690]

I’m in Pgh, and also have the A7S III, it’s a true beast. I own Canon, Blackmagic and Sony. I ended up returning my Canon R5 and expanding my Sony collection with new glass, audio and other accessories. If the upcoming FX6 is as impressive as the A7S III, Canon might have lost me as a customer. We’ll have to wait and see what that brings. Until then I’m really enjoying the A7S III. It has me thinking in ways previously not possible.

[@agenericaccount3935]

Yeah, I just managed to climb mount doom and retrieve a (circa November 2021) very rare FX3. I did my first night walk with it last evening, coupled with the Sony 14mm F1.8. What this thing can do in low light even in plain old S-Cinetone is kinda bonkers, man. I was worried about noise and left it capped at 12800, but I bet I can push it a little higher based on your results.

[@sarrieeldin]

Just got it yesterday and my wife who doesn't know anything about videography was astonished too

[@RCodyWanner]

Such a great feel HHa

[@visionarywatts]

Those 80,000 ISO shots are insane!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@craigsmithYT]

I thought that bridge thumbnail was edited. That colour is awesome, would love to shoot some model photography in that sorta purple light

[@RCodyWanner]

Oh yeah! Bring some little RGB lights to supplement, that would be rad

[@Leo_Perf]

Hey Cody, another vid that makes me wanna upgrade soon. Great test and 80,000 is ridiculous..

[@GrandeurNature]

Hello Cody. Thanks a lot. Was it shot using SLOG3 or another gamma? Maybe I missed the info, sorry. Thanks

[@GrandeurNature]

Oh, I maybe found. Sooo, "standard picture profile", means "PP off"? and neutral or standard color profile? Am I right?

[@RCodyWanner]

yep!!

[@GrandeurNature]

@@RCodyWanner thanks a lot! Take care of you.

[@TheSuperhans49]

Really fun to watch!

[@TuckerPearce]

Oh my that happened for far longer than I’d like to admit on my SUV, $5 battery and I kept putting it off. 😬 One good key and one bad and it only happened when I grabbed the bad one... Those bridge shots of you walking towards it along with the ability of that camera. The Sony low light seems ridiculous.

[@johnbroman3660]

Loved it!!! Great video!

[@GlennLazer]

Another banger of a video!

[@blutey]

Hi Cody, Great video. Very impressive low light performance. Can I ask, what lens did you use in the video?

[@RCodyWanner]

Yep it’s the Tamron 2.8 17-28 and 70-180

[@blutey]

@@RCodyWanner Thanks. Awesome low light capabilities. Unfortunately, don't think I can afford it and will have to go for the A7iii.

[@Coach_Chris_]

The low light on this camera is INSANE. f 5.0 at 8,000 iso and no noise?!?! I NEED this camera.

[@LouisLuzuka]

Hey Cody how are you managing those file sizes?

[@RCodyWanner]

In using the h265 codec, so the files on the card aren’t big, and then I transcode

[@gamingwithrickbekah9130]

@@RCodyWanner Thanks for the video, do you have any trouble editing the footage shooting in 265? I have a Ryzen 3900X with 32GB ram and a 5700XT (or 1070) - think I'll have any trouble? Still loving my A7s II until my 3 comes in. :)

[@RCodyWanner]

Gaming with Rick & Bekah yeah haha! I’m shooting in h264 and I still have to make proxies - who is matt Johnson just out our a great video on the different codecs - but yeah the footage is not easy for my computer to handle

[@LouisLuzuka]

Gaming with Rick & Bekah I’m looking into getting a 5700xt how is it?!

[@gamingwithrickbekah9130]

So far fantastic. Handles 264 4K files from my a7s ii perfectly fine in davinci resolve. I had a 1070 before and it was good too. Hoping I can process h265. Definitely need to test it once I get the camera in hand.

[@flivermore]

The bokeh when you went into town...that was awesome.

[@RCodyWanner]

Haha yeah 70mm 2.8 is 🔥

[@bethmontgomery4766]

After all that, the alarm didn't even go off... lol! Great insight on the A7iii... decisions, decisions...

[@JustWojtek]

That... is crazy!

[@paulscinemareel5671]

Thanks for these tests Cody. Much appreciated. To my eye 12,800 is where I would cap it. Which is just perfect. Up to ISO 32,000 (wow can't believe I'm saying that) is still acceptable for general use. After that it's starting to show deterioration but very slowly - but not bad at all. Have mine on pre-order - can't wait to experiment with it - especially with ProRes raw and my ninja V

[@flexfamily956]

Did u denoised the footage?

[@RCodyWanner]

no this is straight out

[@MrBlackReviews]

wow! 80,000 just wow!

[@arko_8094]

What's the music at 0:50 ?

[@RCodyWanner]

Licensed on artlist - it’s called Thri by the artist Twelwe

[@tylerevertphoto]

Exactly why I still carry my 12 mpx D3s

[@JakeGleim]

Pretty crazy. I do worry the new trend is "exposing" every shot rather than intentionally using the darker lighting as apart of the story telling. I look forward to seeing what content this new camera is capable of creating.

[@ValRalTal]

Why must out passion be so pricey haha because I know if I could, I’d snag that camera for myself. Interested in every second of the video! Love it haha

[@VERTMEDIA]

Thanks for your test. Really interesting, but the music is to loud and your comments too quiet. I need to turn the volume up to hear you and then BANG music arrived...

[@RCodyWanner]

Ooop sorry man, I rushed this one

[@thegixlad27]

Does this camera beat the Panasonic Lumix S5 in low light?

[@RCodyWanner]

Patrick Tomasso would know the answer to this

[@MattLavergne4]

Starting at 5:08 is when I officially lost my mind. IT CAN SEE STARS ON THE OUTSKIRTS OF A CITY?!!!! WHAT THE ACTUAL SORCERY IS THIS🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯

[@RCodyWanner]

HHaha

[@jameshall4077]

This is so dope!

[@chrisibrahim4465]

Damn 🥴🥴🥴🥴🔥🔥🔥 that’s a real low light beast right there

[@ekphotography]

Nice one, just wondering, you were going through some really tough times with credit card payments a while back, I guess you resolved them if you can buy an A7sIII and I am glad to hear that. Stay safe!

[@RCodyWanner]

Yep!

[@Diaz55]

The ending where the alarm didn't go off 👍😎

[@rycaz5565]

Which lense did you use?

[@RCodyWanner]

this is the Tamron 17-28 2.8 and the Tamron 70-180 2.8

[@KIZHAVIHUTOFFICIAL]

DOES A7S III CAN SHOOT DCI 4K EXTERNALLY WITH NINJA V ????

[@RCodyWanner]

Check out Gerald Undone I think he’s covered it - I don’t know

[@TrevorJonescreator]

Goodbye my beloved GH5.

[@RCodyWanner]

HHaha 😭😭

[@ErikPearson22]

what about this stuff im hearing about how its very noisy and unusable from 3k iso to around 16k?

[@RCodyWanner]

it all has to do with which picture profile you’re shooting in - the camera has something sort of like dual base iso, and the 2nd base starts 4 stops above the native base for the profile that you’re in - Phillip bloom has a great explanation of it (with examples) on his channel

[@ErikPearson22]

@@RCodyWanner I'll be using it to record youtube videos primary. Coming from a canon 80d with an f2.8 lens, anything above iso 2000 is grainy. I've never used a sony, so going to be a learning curve. doing some investigating to see which lenses are both quiet, and suitable for outdoor use is a challenge.

[@lucasjf709]

Since when did car alarms go off when you open the car using the physical key? 😂

[@lucasjf709]

Also. Such an awesome video and WHAT a camera!

[@RCodyWanner]

Haha thank you! My two old cars used to do that to me - someone told me than anything after the year 2000 doesn’t haha, I didn’t know

[@markdelanoy6835]

That's insane... just imagine if you were using a f/1.4 lens and/or if you went down to 1/24th of a second. I'd be curious what those extra stops of light would do. Still f/2.8 that's insane and shooting video. What PP were you using??

[@RCodyWanner]

ThAt was just standard PP

[@bigslatemedia916]

What were your codec settings? XAVC S-I 4K?

[@RCodyWanner]

Xavc S 4k

[@waverunneradventuregfx]

A7iii vs a7siii low-light comparison bro?

[@RCodyWanner]

I have the a7c - same sensor as the a7iii I think, and am planning to make that vid for sure!

[@markattardo]

I've been avoiding "gear" videos. This is the first vid I watched about the a7s3...🤯

[@HeyThisIsAndrew]

Start of the video... if that were me I'd have left the car and walked or Uber'd home... Secondly you are making me want this camera... But I know I don't need it since I keep letting fear and procrastination stop me from putting out my own vlogs. I am very self aware in that regard and have not allowed myself to buy any camera get because of it... STILL THOUGH! All these A7SIII vids have me in the mindset of "If I just had that $3500 camera.... then I would vlog"

[@MaddJakd]

It's magnificent!

[@CraigRivest]

80k and still clean! Are you kidding me??? Wow that thing is amazing. Maybe I should cancel my R6 order 😳. How was the AF on the Tamron lens?

[@RCodyWanner]

Oh dude, the AF is perfect 90% of the time - on my eos r that stat was probably 60 😬😬

[@RCodyWanner]

Plus, I’ve heard the r6 has AF issues (from Gene Nagata)

[@jasonnowwhat5041]

AF on the Tamron lenses is near native levels of excellence

[@thedaveko]

4:30 is clean!

[@JayLippman]

I've got a BMPCC 6K coming soon, and I have a feeling my life is going to look a lot like this video when it does.

[@RCodyWanner]

Haha yes!!

[@chvmedia8124]

what pic profile were you using

[@RCodyWanner]

Standard

[@LeeGale]

Dude, you are making me want to switch to Sony so bad! Also...where are your Vallerret Gloves?

[@RCodyWanner]

In my trunk!! What was I thinking!!

[@LeeGale]

Haha! Just glad to know you still have them.

[@VastgoedStudios]

What lens is this?

[@RCodyWanner]

Mostly the Tamron 70-180 but also the Tamron 17-28

[@EverythingIsPhotogenic]

Mmmm swiss cheese lol! While this looks like a low light beast, the Sony cameras are ISO invariant, so pushing the ISO will not *create* noise unto itself, as once was the case. When you film a well lit building in a dark scene at ISO 80,000, you won't get the terrible noise you might be expecting because the sensor is able to write to the pixels an actual interpreted signal the light is allowing it to read. When you were under the street lights at 80,000, the image looked pretty good because the sensor could read a signal and the ISO was able to boost the exposure, when you were in the car at 51,200 the image was pretty cruddy as the sensor struggled to properly write each pixel with a good signal without the light sources, cranking up the ISO is just adding artificial light to the poorly interpreted signal, not really boosting it. ISO is really not what it used to be in old DSLRs where the technology was not ISO invariant. This is why turning the ISO up on those cameras even on a well-lit seen made them look horrendous. If you're interested in testing this theory, find a well lit scene, underexpose by several stops in aperture and shutter speed then crank up the ISO to something absurd for the scene, on a modern camera, you will not find any appreciable difference in noise over the same image being taken with a more traditional exposure triangle. I think you did a great job demonstrating that the Sony does a great job in utilizing a killer sensor to interpret signal in low light, turning up the ISO just allows us to see that good signal (or in other cases not so good signal) by brightening it. The thing that is commonly misunderstood however, is that an ISO setting i.e. 80K is not really a standard (contrary to what the nomenclature would suggest) 80K in one scene may look perfect and ISO 6,000 on the same camera can look like it was shot on a potato with the same camera in a different scene. Just a little camera edification 😉 have fun with your new toy and keep up the awesome content!

[@RCodyWanner]

Great explanation!

[@nowornevervdo]

I’m still waiting for mine

[@TerryWarfield]

6:19 #datbokeh dope video bro!

[@RCodyWanner]

Thank you man!!

[@iSCOej1]

AWESOME!