Abandoned Backhoe Leaking Hydraulic Cylinders Rebuild Part 5

[@Mongomongo333]

A trick to get the gland seal in the smaller cylinders without the tool, is to use a small zip tie tight in the middle . Then bend it to the kidney shape, set in groove, then use small flush cut pliers to cut the ziptie. Pull the cut zip tie out and it pops right in the groove . Thats what ive been doing on my 580ck cylinders..so far no leaks.

[@mikekisch5563]

thats a very good tip.

[@daveknowshow]

thanks for sharing this.

[@rockeerockey6941]

Just like removing a ring on your finger with string

[@luisescorza8360]

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[@arska77]

No music please. Its really annoying. Only sound of working. Greetings From 🇫🇮

[@TF856]

I totally agree. I mentioned that on other videos and some people resent it.

[@bumpkinrocks]

Good work there, very interesting. PLEASE DITCH THE MUSIC!

[@peterwilson4546]

Hey Mike I have the same 580c except with a cab. My manual said to remove the swing cylinders. I repacked them on the machine as you did. Great videos keep up the great work!

[@blakeskullerud4915]

Cool video. Thanks. I think you may have put your outside or wiper seal in backwards. Probably doesn't matter at this point.

[@jimdieseldawg3435]

I like this old 580, it will be great to see it back in rude health. I enjoy your no-nonsense methodical approach to getting things done too. Nice one!

[@salvageman1983]

It's a shame people don't take better care of their equipment...nice work fixing her up.

[@jeromeknapp6714]

I like the music.........I watch a KZbin video 8 minutes long yesterday.......after the guy walked though his woods telling his life story......I turned it off at 4 minutes. You give the information I need.

[@Mongomongo333]

Its also a really good idea to loctite those piston bolts during assembly buddy.

[@swmas02]

Great job seeing you put your skills into breathing life back into these vintage machines, keep those videos coming?, a New follower from the UK

[@super6954]

Thanks for another update on the machine. Maybe the one dislike is your local hyd shop that didn't earn a $1000 selling you seals and resealing the cylinders L.O.L. I reseal quite a few for guys and on our own machines when needed. Yes technically they need to be done as clean as possible, but with a machine like that with watered oil and the abuse it's had over the years the damage is probably already done to the system anyway. It's still better now than when the last guy used it with bad filters and crappy oil, now you are servicing it. Air in the cylinders L.O.L I hate those transport locks on the Case machines. My JCB has a drop in pin so there isn't all that messing with bouncing the boom just the right way. Looking forward to more updates and to see when you start the fun part using it. Take care.

[@cybersylo5786]

Great videos man, the old girl is coming together. I hear she is running a little rough, hopefully, a simple valve adjustment and fuel injector cleaning will fix the issue.

[@MRrwmac]

Nice work! More importantly - no more leaks and runs full length stop to stop!

[@eldoradony]

Your video is interesting and well done. The addition of the 10 second repeating loop music is not a plus.

[@mikekisch5563]

What are your thoughts then? What about music to drown out grinding noise?

[@mo1ppm433]

I agree. Ditch the music altogether. I would rather hear actual audio including cussing and grinding.

[@mikekisch5563]

@@mo1ppm433 what about music during the sped up portions? I like the feedback and will try to refine the video process.

[@mo1ppm433]

@@mikekisch5563 I would prefer to hear softened or attenuated actual audio during the sped portions. The music adds nothing and is distracting. It is especially irritating when you are speaking. I'm here to watch the wrenching. Thanks for listening to my feedback. Enjoying your videos!

[@jerrydavis2420]

@@mikekisch5563 just mute during the grinding. Enjoying the videos

[@jeffrobison2013]

a small pump-up sprayer with diesel fuel in it is great to flush the grit out of those cylinders

[@TF856]

What video program do you use to speed up the video and the audio together? I would really like to know. Thanks Alot of us would much prefer to hear the audio even if it's sped up instead of the music.

[@mikekisch5563]

i use shotcut a free video editing software

[@chuckinwyoming8526]

After using 10' cheater on my 3/4" socket or custom made hex box end wrench to break the piston nuts loose I would have never guessed that electric impact would remove the nuts!! Your viewers should not miss the fact that you put the rods back into the hoe with the pins to hold them and need to support the piston end if using a bar to break the nut loose (or re-torque) instead of the electric impact. 750 ft-lbs torque re-assembling the piston nuts. Who knows how much to remove a nut after 10 years? great video! music...not so much.

[@samialkhathami7157]

What type Dewalt drill you have?? Man its too strong 💪

[@WagsAutomotive]

What year is your machine? I just bought a 79 last year. These videos will help me! I have to do a lot of what you are doing, but mine runs & drives. Needs brakes, guages, filter changes, maybe a cylinder rebuild or 2, sheet metal work, wiring, etc. I don't have a backhoe, just a 3 point hitch. But I bought a 3 point backhoe I have to adapt to it. I need to figure out how to get hydraulic pressure to the backhoe. Can you do a video showing how to add pressure & return hoses to the manifold? I just need to know which one is which.

[@mikekisch5563]

I think mine is 1980. I believe that's the last year before they named them 580d

[@mikekisch5563]

I think the best place to look would be the service manual for the hydraulic circuits because there are several different loader valves that these came with. That's what feeds the backhoe.

[@roygabriel.2753]

That’s another feather in the cap. Your getting there one step at a time. Good work.

[@basedyamz9985]

So did those 2 seals you put on backwards ever end up leaking?

[@shaverdave3644]

Just wondering was that water in the oil , it looked very milky if it is your pump won't last very long .

[@dkp7895]

Love the videos. Is there any way you could put a link in to the seal packs and maybe even the tools that you used? I have seen guys use a big pipe wrench to get the cap off but that would score the cap really bad I would think. Thanks!

[@josh33025]

Lovely milky hydro fluid.

[@morgansword]

I always had the hardest time giving the main boom a quick jerk to latch it cause if you went slow it released itself and so for a while ran around with a chain to make sure it didn't fall. Of course, it becomes second nature if you use it much which I let my grandson ware it out. I like your style son, tell the story as you told it today an see how many fall for it

[@munched55]

It's your channel and you can do what you like but for the love of all that's holy, NO MORE YEARS OLD KZbin MUSIC! Do you sit at home and listen to that monotonous stuff? I doubt it. Just want to hear what you're thinking as you do it. Please.

[@TF856]

I just remembered something about hydraulic jacks. you can turn up the high pressure screw and it will go beyond its normal range. I had to do that on a cheap floor jack to raise up the back of our Suburban. Before I did that it would barely even lift one wheel off the ground. I think they set that screw to low at the factory on many jacks.

[@daveknowshow]

excellent! thanks for the update on the backhoe

[@kevinmaharaj08]

Need youre help.i have a terex backhoe 860sd and for no good reason i cant find the cylinder seals kits online for it.can u give me a lil head start on wha seals could work on it

[@mikekisch5563]

hwpartstore.com thats where i got all my seal kits they are reasonable price and have good info I dont know if they have terex. you might have to get the cylinder number and search that way.

[@BigMac-in7ft]

I'd love to know the number of that Wix filter you put in at the end. Thanks

[@mikekisch5563]

i believe its 51760 thats what the wix site says.

[@billkendall5129]

What everyone else said about your music!!!!

[@firebreathinggarage2117]

I'm curious where you received the teaching to hone those tubes out. I do understand honing and have rebuilt half the cylinders on my backhoe using the service manual. If the bores were rusty I might understand but we're talking about o-rings and nylon seals rubbing against the cylinders.

[@mikekisch5563]

there was some rust pitting i was smoothing out just on the swing cylinders. all the other cylinders were smooth. i was trying to knock down the high spots.

[@firebreathinggarage2117]

@@mikekisch5563 doing a great job.

[@johnfranks]

Get a set of inner seal tools. Totally worth it.

[@rodolfoplasencia4953]

This is why those who don't do maintenance in their vehicles and machines end up loosing them once they get unoperational because of any of the things you're doing they lack to. That's why also people like you gets them cheaper, give them the time and love they need, bring them back to life and they end up in a living home serving you for the longest. I guess the original owners burn them out getting their most money out of them by using them with no compassion until they left them because they can't just get all the abuse but if they were more patient and practical they'll understood they need to stop their machines for maintenance instead of exploding them broken. Well, that's why exist them and us. They can't figure it out and is not convenient to us neither lol.

[@paulgilson9876]

Orsome mate..are you going to tidy up paint etc

[@billjunking_fool5549]

Nice video I've got to rebuild them to same cylinders on mine

[@jasondye4669]

Hey Mike. Thanks for the video. I am rebuilding some cylinders on my Case. What oil did you run and do you like it?

[@mikekisch5563]

I use hydraulic oil from atwoods or tractor supply the cheap oil. I think i paid $20 per 5 gallon. the hydraulic system takes 22 gallons empty or about 17 gallons with oil in the cylinders. I like oil OK. For the trans/hydraulic for the transmission i usually buy a higher quality oil.. maybe around $40 per 5 gallon.

[@jasondye4669]

Thanks for the reply Mike. I am pretty sure the transmission and cylinders run on the same circuit for my backhoe. I'll have to step up and buy the good stuff...a whole lot of it.

[@sc928porsche8]

fail............................everything MUST be VERY clean when you reassemble! Dont say it cant be done out in the field. It can. I have done that for many many years.

[@Frank-bh3cm]

You short-changed us on the funny / scary story...

[@peterarisz2150]

Sumo stance gives stability.

[@jasonnewell6834]

That gland wrench has interchangeable cogs you take out the set screws and turn the cogs end for end for bigger or smaller setting

[@gtfkt]

I just have to laugh at all the music hating comments... there's this thing called "turning the sound off"... great little concept. Keeps you from making whining comments about how you precious beings can't bear watching the video because of the music and making a fool of yourselves.

[@markcohen8061]

Great job. Thanks

[@gduncan3739]

Keep the music! Another informative video, I would be interested to know what your day job is Mike. Keep up the good work .regards from Scotland.

[@bicycleengineering]

The shop that repairs my rams uses loctite on the piston nut anyone else doing this ? Or its not necessary.

[@mikekisch5563]

manual says to use petroleum jelly on bolt threads, bolt washer surface, both sides of washer and end of piston rod. then torque to spec. which is 220 to 1200ft/lbs depending on which cylinder

[@jeffreyboggs8767]

chane wrinch pip rinch punch hammer. works. .

[@EddieTheGrouch]

Sheesh. A lot of folks are having a tantrum and taking an imaginary high ground over a video blog. He's not working on your mothers tractor so get over it. It's his toys to do with as he pleases and none of this has been presented as a "How To" instructional video. When he buggers it up we get more videos and can smirk and giggle all we want :P On a serious note, Mike, you really should flip those rod seals around. By the time they become a problem it's become an expensive problem. Do you really want to risk those piston rods? A backwards one-way seal is going to grab dirt and sand like a funnel and press it against the rod and score it up. Then the schmutz is going to get a free ride past the inner seal into the cylinder and start trashing that as well as the pump and you may not find out about it until that hour so of rework becomes more hours and $1000. I noticed that every joint I could see in the video has trashed bushings or pins. Will you be doing any of those or wait till you get some seat time and use out of the girl? p.s. I agree, that looped piece music was annoying.

[@mikekisch5563]

i think i will get some seat time and then decide on the pins and bushings. I dont think i will be able to flip the seals around without damaging them i guess i could pull one apart to see.

[@stanwilson7566]

Where do you get that music, I like it. I like all the work you are doing, it this the trade you have in making your living? 4/13/2020

[@mikekisch5563]

a part of my income last year was from equipment mainly side by sides i found to fix. Old equipment like this doesnt make me any money. i would guess 10-15 per hour the backhoe wasnt worth the risk or the time. but with this type of work you dont know until you get into it.

[@mikekisch5563]

you are one of the few that like the music. It is from youtubes selection. most people gripe about it i am glad to hear from you

[@ArniAtlason]

Great video thanks

[@vanbly.1479]

The seal surfaces in the gland usually need to be either resurfaced or at least sanded to eliminate the pitting that has occurred over time from moisture.

[@markmeister2444]

You're lucky Mike those stupid Case cylinder glands can really be a problem removing, I had to buy a new boom cylinder on my 580 because I couldn't get the gland off . I snapped one of the dowels off on my gland wrench, I tried heat and I beat on it and in the end I just bought a new cylinder.

[@mikekisch5563]

if you watch my rod straighten video i had the same problem. i found that moving the cylinder in and out allowed me to loosen the gland. the real problem for me was the rod was bent and only when the rod was in the proper position was i able to budge the gland.

[@willdigg1448]

I know what you mean on removing those stubborn stuck glands. I broke two pipe wrenches on the same cylinder, a 36" and a 48" pipe wrenches. I'm working on the boom cylinder gland now on my 580K. I bent the gland wrench and still haven't got it broke loose.

[@markcohen8061]

@@willdigg1448 I found on my 480LL that they used loctite red. Had to heat it real hot, then it wa easy. That's after bending my 1" breaker bar, because of the 10' cheater!

[@bolla1369]

Il parapolvere quello di colore giallo deve essere girato con il labbro verso l'esterno, poi la pulizia specie nell'idraulica è il tuo forte.

[@chipps1066]

A little late to say this now but that chocolate milk needs flushin' out and some fresh hytran put back in,would work wonders for that old girl.

[@jeepinjohnny2898]

Yo - mike. I sure enjoy your video BUT NOT the background racket (music). I like to hear YOU and working sounds.

[@josephmathis5795]

Please, no music.

[@walterheijboer9244]

Hi I noticesd that the oil tat came out of the cylinder was heavily emulsifired. Lots of water in oil. This is not good. Should have emptied the oil tank, drainded all the oil from hoses and valves. Flush the hydraulic systen with the minimum oil level and discard. When you replaced the rod gland seal pack, it gave me the impression that you fitted the scraper seal with the lip facing inside. It should be facing to the outside. That way it cab scrape off any dirt and water. Just a comment. Have followed sevreal videos and it is difficult fot me to see how many abandoned macines are arroun the USA. I am from South Africa

[@mikekisch5563]

i think i looked for 2 months before i found this one. they are at a premium price where i live. i dont know why. yes i ended up replacing all but one cylinder seals and 2 i put on backwards

[@workaholic5318]

Nice. There seems to be a lot of play in the main pin at the bottom of the boom. Sorry, just sayin. The nice thing is that this machine was non-functional and probably destined for the scrap heap. Who cares if the workbench is dirty, apparently none of these people have never worked in a mechanical job shop. The only place that has to be clean is where you are actually doing work.

[@Melicoy]

nice

[@10us101]

give me a lever long enough and i can move the world

[@bigunone]

I give up watching music is annoying good luck with the build

[@elgroso806]

What the hell with all the haters here ? If you don't like the music, don't watch the video and get out of this channel... Simple !

[@justinpowell5381]

Yes it does naw

[@Master-of-None]

Omfg please use different music if you have to use music at all and definatly not on endless loop. I want to stangle those Japanese girls already.

[@mikekisch5563]

ok i will have less music on future videos.

[@rebeccaocker6834]

Quit music