Abbey Sharp Vs Amberlynn Reid Vs ME?! (This is SO Dumb)

[@AbbeysKitchen]

Lollllzzzzz what a fing black hole

[@ObesetoBeast]

Abbey, now you must react to this 😂

[@platedlizard]

the next step is for Amber to react this this, and then we can start the cycle again

[@inspiringviolet184]

Yessss gotta keep this chain going, I guess abbey has to react next😁🤣

[@rebekahk5782]

Please for the love of god do not

[@7ShadowMaiden7]

Lmao I’ve never made a KZbin video but now I want to react to y’all reacting to each other

[@SarahHasselberger]

Am the only human that is within both abbey and john's demographics?! Love watching both of your videos and hearing your opinions and perspectives

[@elenavoight7249]

Omg I used to watch your channel so many years ago and had been trying to figure out what your name was recently but couldn’t remember and now I found you again through a comment hahah that’s such a crazy coincidence!

[@SarahHasselberger]

@@elenavoight7249 That's so funny! I'm not a huge commenter, so this is truly a wild coincidence

[@inkorrektscenario]

I feel like Johns channel is the place on KZbin where the two different sides of weight loss- and workout-interested people overlap.

[@kalisue6573]

I watch both as well :)

[@x3lea866]

🤚🏻

[@lacettfavilla123]

Only problem with Chikara is the assumption that using 'may' or 'might' is fence-sitting when it's basic academic language. No scientist in any field will use decisive language. It's part of understanding that all knowledge should and could be falsifiable, and that this principle underlines the scientific method. Abbey is a certified dietician and not a doctor, but still a certified professional. For credibility she 100% should use non-decisive language when discussing potential side effects and complications. If psychiatrists said 'Ritalin will always cure your ADHD' it would be incredibly unprofessional and also unscientific, even when speaking in a casual context. We must acknowledge situations in which it doesn't.

[@ALTR_no_EGO]

"Everybody likes me." That's because John is the Mr. Rogers of KZbin fitness. He's so damn wholesome.

[@orkleth]

I thought John Meadows was the Mr. Rogers of KZbin fitness.

[@rebekahk5782]

@@orkleth not to start an argument with OP but yeahhhh John Meadows IS and always will be the Mr Rogers if YT. He can’t do anything wrong.

[@emmamations]

My partner does not care about fitness people or KZbin people, and usually things the people I watch are a bit cringy, but every time I've shown him John saying something he's liked him. So IMO that means everyone likes him. 🤣

[@ALTR_no_EGO]

I just imagined John Meadows in the classic sweater, and died... 😂😂 I guess that makes O2B John Mr. Rogers 2.0? I stand by my wholesome comment.

[@absolutelyridiculous6743]

He really is!! I can watch him all day and not feel like I need to scrub my brain from trash TV syndrome

[@flychickadee]

I feel like reacting to a reaction of a reacting video is basically 2020 summed up in one confusing and accurate sentence.

[@nataleo9093]

ahahahahahahahahahahh

[@flychickadee]

@@nataleo9093 right?!

[@juliannetruelove1686]

As a dietician student, intuitive eating isn’t supposed to be an end all be all for every single person. but dietitians have speciality’s and I think this is the field that she is most well versed in and decides to treat her clients with. There are a lot of dietitians out there and you just have to find the right one to help you in your specific situation

[@xosecox12]

Exactly. She is focused on restrictive eating. I wish people got that. Many medical practitioners specialize like this. I wouldn't want an RD treating obese patients treating me as someone who is recovering from anorexia. I’d want someone who is focused on my ED type. If you had swollen tonsils would you see an oncologist or an ENT? It's common sense and I wish people were more open-minded about this

[@moretyquira]

Exactly! just like how therapists have different fields and specialties! I really wish more people would approach it with that kind of open-mindedness. just because it doesn't work for you DOESN'T make her a bad dietician or wrong.

[@seriesjunkie90]

The problem I have with her though is that she talks as if her approach is the only right one. I find her too biased

[@camille6679]

@@seriesjunkie90 From what i've seen under Abby's video a lot of her viewers do suffer from some kind of ED and her being very the way she is kinda helps some people introducing certain type of good habits into their eating. She talks about her approach the most because it's likely the only one she knows because like the original comments say it's probably her field when it come to being a dietitian. nothing wrong with you disliking her approach but it's my 2cents on that. i don't think her approach will and can work on everyone but if it helps even a few people appreciating food again then it's a good thing. :)

[@AMortalDothApproach]

Who else has watched every video in this video? I watched Abbey's video, then John's came out, then I watched Ilona's, and now I'm watching John reacting to Ilona reacting to John reacting to Abbey reaction to Aberylynn.

[@ariannabartolozzi1943]

That would be me 😂

[@evilphimie]

Me too!

[@allieak4507]

Lol same 😂

[@carlakoala7415]

I cant find llona's channel. Could someone link the video or tell me her channel name I cant find the video at all x

[@AMortalDothApproach]

@@carlakoala7415 Chikara Transformations (also Chikara Tries Out!)

[@ChikaraTransformations]

Hahaha! I dont like watching myself but my DMs lit up when this was done originally 😂 part 2 coming today or tomorrow 😉

[@gothicmuffinofdoom]

Oh, there you are.

[@VirginiaSunrise11]

Just so you know I enjoy your straight forward manner.

[@sylversfynx3485]

This super meta, inception level, responses are like a long conversation between people. I like it, its great.

[@shaunnicolewheeler872]

i’m a recovering anorexic and i just wanna say thank you john for your talk about intuitive eating! i’ve been incorporating it into my life for 10 years now (not always successfully, let’s be honest lol). i first heard about it when i was being treated as an inpatient centre for my ed when i was 15. i had to do a month of having a rigid diet plan where i followed a strict schedule for meal and snack times. this was bc if i tried intuitive eating right off the bat, i would’ve continued never eating because my brain had actually convinced itself that i was never hungry anymore from the 5 years of disordered eating. i had to force myself to eat regular meals to reset my clock before i could really learn to listen to hunger signals and intuitively eat. i know a lot of people recovering from eating disorders agree that it’s not as easy as just saying “okay, i’m gonna eat intuitively now” like i get it, obv it’s the ideal but start treating it as something to strive for, not something that’s gonna get you there.

[@ObesetoBeast]

That’s awesome! Keep up the good work!

[@Enoltra]

Lmao this is actually quite entertaining, seeing how long the reaction chain can go. After all, isn't youtube the perfect platform for trying out crazy stuff like that? ALSO, here's my stance on eating intuitively- if I kept doing that, I would've died of starvation lol. I've been on a gainz path for 2 years now and gained 7 kgs, 3 more to my goal! So whatever you decide to do, do research on your specific body type and track how YOU react to food and quantities!

[@danielle4640]

I really like Ilona because she is direct and she will call herself out when she says something wrong/ misinformed.

[@marieodu3149]

Me too I like Ilona - straight to the point - always cool to get a female bodybuilder point of view not just the guys 😁

[@boop3260]

I called her out on Twitter last year for promoting Flat Earth and QAnon conspiracies, and she deleted her account for a time

[@josebenardi1554]

@@boop3260 Imagine being a flat earther in the XXI century .... RIP

[@susanne4106]

@@boop3260 really? That seems not like her at all

[@boop3260]

@@susanne4106 yup. I was pretty shocked by it because up until then I'd only seen her being logical and sensible. But she and her partner are heavy into the conspiracy scene... I unsubscribed after that

[@vintagecameragirl]

Ilona will be so pleased you reacted to her. She's an awesome person!

[@PondScumProductions]

I hope they all keep this going until the title is a paragraph-length run-on sentence.

[@limiabean]

Love Ilona. She’s honest without being a jerk. Definitely gives great advice and doesn’t beat around the bush.

[@soph2799]

Agreed, love her.

[@larosierose2848]

Agreed. I feel John looks down on her a bit here. A bit annoyed.

[@bobbylee7471]

@@larosierose2848 yeah idk why but it was weird .

[@freeivo5720]

I love her 2

[@frightmareswithfoster1111]

Same i love her videos. Her eating videos and her workouts. She is also super educational about these people's eating.

[@MsJazbren]

Who else had to actually sit and watch this video so they could tell which iteration of John was speaking?

[@simona_ab]

Wouldn't be easier for you all, and more entertaining for us, to join all 4 together, in a direct streaming? I would pay to see that...🙄😂

[@frenchloverstalker]

Amber is not gonna do that 🤣

[@thejessica-est]

It would be the perfect end to 2020. Like opening the 7th Seal 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@w04andia]

@@thejessica-est lmao

[@juliet4521]

Illona deserves mad respect on this platform though. Always willing to apologize and call herself out when she's wrong but also makes really great, educational content and is always respectful unlike some other people in haydur nation. Love her

[@soph2799]

Absolutely. She is one of the only creators that holds herself to the same standard that she holds others. She’s brilliant.

[@SaltySirenFloriduh]

Definitely agree. She’s not like some creators who are too prideful to admit when they misspoke. She’s also been consistent with her advice and doesn’t poke fun at ALR/FoodieBeauty/Jen bc of their weight.

[@adriana12995]

Shes the definition of maturity; has her own wisdom and experience that she wants to share but is also able to learn more and accept that she doesn’t know everything. That is a rare thing on KZbin.

[@natalie5334]

YES! Strange how John haven't picked up on that. It's very obviously even from this video alone that she is miles ahead in terms of maturity and overall decency.

[@orkleth]

If you really want to get into the lore of Haydur Nation, just try watching the 2-3 hr youtube documentary on it, or the 2 hr documentary on Amber, or the 4 1/2 hr documentary on Nikocado. I'm starting to think KZbin made a mistake getting rid of the 10 minute limit all those years ago.

[@chloeelizabeth013]

Omg that’s so long. Amberverse is crazy and I tried to understand it but there’s so much lol

[@chloedsmith]

I've watched TRO's video on Nikocado like 4 times now... I need help lmao

[@ab7974]

Wait who did the documentary?

[@orkleth]

@@ab7974 There's so many for Amber, but this was the one I watched: kzbin.info/www/bejne/h369knWqhNafgq8 Rise and Fall of Haydur Nation: kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z2GVY4irZ5pqm6M The infamous Nikocado doc, which is just a descent into madness: kzbin.info/www/bejne/o4XRkKWjpal2jJo

[@tinyfrog881]

It's fucking wild because Amber's life is so boring and yet we can't look away...

[@rebekahf7721]

"I just like bread." - John of the People - Bread is life.

[@TheClairezy018]

I hear those Opera "I love bread" commercials.

[@kitashay1987]

An hour in and Abby hasn't started reviewing the food yet lol

[@intuitive_duck]

I think it's funny when people try to drag her for advocating for lower carb diets when losing weight/fat but she makes awesome homemade bread all the time. She's definitely not anti carb at all. She's learned how to balance it out.

[@taddreams]

Dude's missing a GIANT and important step in eating disorder recovery and the journey towards intuitive eating. If you've ever been to a dietician who specializes in ED then you know that the first step is not jumping into intuitive eating. OF COURSE there's no way you can do that. Step one is mechanical eating - eating a set meal plan at set times of day - so you can rediscover your hunger and full cues. With time the ultimate goal is intuitive eating, but some in ED recovery will never get there and that's okay, too.

[@gusberg2147]

Can’t wait for you to react to “Amberlynn Reid Reacts to Abbey Sharp Reacting to O2B Reacts to Reaction of O2B Reacting to Dietician’s Reaction to Amberlynn Reid” (2021)

[@RandomGrump]

THIS NEEDS TO HAPPEN

[@jcwittig]

I am naming this now knowing as a turducken reaction .

[@lellyt2372]

This is am extremely underrated comment 👏👍

[@Hayakoneko]

Heckin great crossover inception reaction video. Ilona is great and always provides quality information without sugarcoating things.

[@spyscy]

The concept of this by itself is just hilarious, thank you to all involved for this absolutely gold-standard content 😹😹😹

[@Tripletrident]

Amberlynn needs to react to this video to bring everything full circle

[@ariannamae8780]

Okay but did you hear she is reacting to Abbey? Just her video, no reaction to the reactions🤣

[@jship5119]

Amber would be confused by every other word being said

[@0Alwina0]

She said 6 people requested it but a lot of people up voted a comment saying to react to your reactions

[@adriana12995]

I’m pretty sure she was being sarcastic by saying that it was only 6 people but John didn’t take the joke lol

[@bobbylee7471]

@@adriana12995 no he was being shady.

[@SaltySirenFloriduh]

I love that you continued the inception react 😂 & I totally love Ilona

[@mrdad-zl9zl]

Abbey does handle people with kid gloves if her fan base happens to like them or if they follow her preferred approach to diet/lifestyle. She handles everyone with respect and with the professionalism of a dietician but she clearly has biases which are where a lot of the criticism towards her comes from.

[@peapotfairy]

I have to set an alarm to remember to eat because I do not feel hunger the way that other people do and will totally forget to eat. I started using an alarm to eat after I went to the doctor with symptoms of fatigue and dizziness and during that appointment I realized that I hadn't eaten in 3 days

[@jf12358]

This is my favourite comment of the week because nobody seems to understand that this is a serious issue as well. I don't have an alarm but I started intermitted fasting for the same reason. That way I know I haven't eaten and always plan at least one big meal a day.

[@klc517]

YES! and now I'm taking stimulants for my adhd, which suppress my appetite even further. I feel like trying to express the struggle either comes off as humble bragging or everyone's response is "just eat." But I have to put so much effort into just barely avoiding deficiencies, im always tired and cold, etc.

[@peapotfairy]

@@klc517 I know right! I saw that in some of the comments of this video and it confused me. It's like, how is it a "brag" to say that you struggle to do a very basic thing that should be instinctive. I hate that I dont have a natural drive to eat. If I dont have or get food right when my alarm goes off, I *will* forget to eat (I also have adhd) and that is dangerous!

[@ScoscobabyOGO]

Omg I have the same problem. I end up getting so weak to the point it’s hard for me to prepare food. I think the worse part is my doctor tells me I need to loose weight when I have problems eating. I’ve already lost 30 lbs because of this.

[@ScoscobabyOGO]

@@klc517 exactly it so annoying. Lol we have a legit problem

[@tabsamnic]

I love Ilona!!! She is so honest and down to earth!

[@johana_fitness_lifestyle]

Who is this? Lol what’s her channel?

[@ababy6074]

Me too!

[@AmyJ739]

@@johana_fitness_lifestyle it's @chikaratransformations & @chikaratriesout 👍

[@freeivo5720]

She is the best I am in love to Ilona

[@tabsamnic]

@@freeivo5720 I think you might be a little bias! 😅

[@TheElicest]

So many dark and thick framed glasses on one screen. 👓 👓 👓 Seriously, I’m glad these are in style

[@orkleth]

Does anyone remember those old recursive memes from 2008-2012 where people would overlay image macros on top of each other to the point you couldn't even see the original meme? I hope reactions get to that point for the sheer insanity.

[@haileyabecassis3713]

"The 3 of you guys" joke genuinely made me laugh SSSOOOO hard I was crying 😂😂

[@marsan1762]

if this isn't the epitome of the reaction strand wow

[@jstarASMR3103]

I LOVE ilona I’m so glad you featured her. If any other people are seeing this comment please go check out one of her vids on her channel it’s amazing

[@nicoleallen3079]

Your pause game is amazing!!!! Every time you pause on someone, they are making a ridiculous face.😂😂😂😂

[@theyoutubeanalyst3731]

OMG she's so right with the voice notes drama! It's okay if you dont know about It Jhon, it's private family stuff that shouldnt be under public scrutiny.

[@essiekins1673]

This has to be one of the longest inception-inception reaction chains I've ever witnessed lmao

[@HildesYT]

Looking forward to Illonas reaction to this. Then I hope ALR reacts to that.

[@kimwagner8350]

And then when ALR reacts Abbey sharpe had to react then John and the cycle continues lmao

[@intuitive_duck]

I feel like you are misunderstanding her on a few things. Your criticism makes it seem like her opinion is different than what she's saying.

[@ttc958]

Agree

[@frightmareswithfoster1111]

Agreed. She's actually quite amazing and educational.

[@pleaseelaborate3163]

I feel like he didn't quite understand that she was basically thinking out loud when talking about applying different standards to people based on their current level of addiction. So she wasn't particularly set in stone on that opinion

[@MamaSwole]

I'm gonna need to grab some popcorn for this one

[@weepingblade]

I wasn't even looking and I see a mamaswole comment You know you gotta do a reaction. Gotta keep it going. Imagine making a reaction video and saying nothing but just munching on popcorn the whole time with a serious face😂😂😂

[@penguinno4271]

"That is going to be AbsoFruitly awesome" Best thing in the whole video!

[@marieodu3149]

People reacting to your video reacting because you’re cool and you’re polite and you don’t put people down 😁💪🏾

[@jendoodle3399]

I hate to complain and I totally don’t mind some ads in videos but their is 20 ads In mine. 😳

[@theshunnedBandersnatch]

For me, it shows the little yellow spots where ads *should* be, but no ads have played for me yet and I'm an hour in 🤔

[@palesarox13]

He doesn't choose where the ads or even how many he gets

[@jendoodle3399]

@@palesarox13 sometimes they can change it by manually putting in ads . ❤️ I just wanted to let him know. No hate.

[@jendoodle3399]

@@theshunnedBandersnatch for some reason theirs still playing ads for me unfortunately :( I gave up watching lol!

[@theshunnedBandersnatch]

@@jendoodle3399 Ugh that sucks! :-/

[@helenebarrow3659]

Chikara’s the bomb. Love that lady. She’s unapologetically her own person. Respect ✊

[@julia10982]

Just putting it out there, John replied to someone saying that KZbin automatically put on that many mid roles because of the length of the video.

[@mary-catherineelizabeth7277]

What I don't like about Ilona's commentary is that Abbey's job is not to solve all the eating issues in the whole world. There's nothing wrong with having a certain niche or specialty and there are enough people out there who react to Amber and Chantal etc already. Plus, more people die of obesity because more people are obese, but anorexia is much more immediately dangerous than obesity is.

[@elizabethbryce4283]

The internet it shattering! Too many factions, we are too tangled up. How am I this caught up on this drama??

[@GallifrAngel]

1:01:20 I understand wanting equality, but in comparing it to alcoholics or drug addicts, I think the channel Young Dumb Honey Bun has explained it the best which is that a "normal person" posting a video of them where they have some drinks isn't a problem, but an alcoholic filming themselves drinking and monetizing it is an issue because they are directly profiting off of their addiction, which makes it harder for them to want to seek help. Food addiction is also a thing, so I think we can correlate it pretty seamlessly in that people who (at least to the outside world) seem to have a healthy relationship with food filming themselves eating is fine, but people who have diagnosed EDs shouldn't because, again, they're profiting off of their addiction. Amber has outright said that she gets the most views (and therefore money) when she posts videos where her body is in the thumbnail "looking like a big elephant" (her words, not mine), so she is fully aware that she is in the position she is in financially because she's abusing her body and her addiction. I hope this was easy to understand!

[@heathergibson2352]

Omg I’m just listening to this while I work and I getting confused when it’s him on the current video and the other video

[@HappyKat-wc4ld]

I love the ALR react-ceptions so much 😂

[@WitchOfThePage]

Abbey has said Illona is on the list. She's gotten many requests to review her.

[@ObesetoBeast]

Well I stand corrected! 🙏🏼

[@WitchOfThePage]

@@ObesetoBeast lol wasn't tying to be snarky. I enjoy your videos, I've lost 130 lbs myself almost a decade ago. I relate to your words and the loose skin struggles. Thank you for the content.

[@AbbeysKitchen]

Honestly I may have her on a request list somewhere but I’ve never heard of her, watched her videos and am not actively writing anything about her. I get thousands of requests.

[@WitchOfThePage]

This is like a Mariah Carey "I don't know her" moment lol just kidding. I know there's no shade. I'm sure the requests must be overwhelming. I watch all three creators videos. Gives me something to listen to when I'm doing stuff around the house or moving my body.

[@rebeccaspratling2865]

@@WitchOfThePage 😂😂😂 I love seeing that reference. I live for it. 🤣🤣

[@mikanchan322]

I can relate to her - or could anyway. Back in high school when I was very busy and not at home much I would automatically undereat because I would just not get hungry. I noticed in uni that I would eat much more and much better meals when I spent a day at home.

[@oliviavamoss]

I love ilona she is amazing!!!

[@fancycavegaming620]

I intuitively order double cheese and double pepperoni, but I mindfully make sure it's thin crust.

[@Anna-fw7lm]

59:30 I don't think the reasoning behind what she said is 'who's the best and so who's allowed to do it' but is 'who's more in danger'. One person can hike a mountain and be safe, and put the video out for the public, and another person can hike a dangerous place and 'inspire' people to make risky things too. How often is already happened?

[@aprilrawls5162]

I just subscribed! Great episode!

[@RandomGrump]

“It’s not my life, so why would I care?” Ugh. Can’t relate 😭😭

[@sydneyheath9609]

I eat intuitively (it healed my binge eating) and I also "think about what I'm putting into my mouth". those two things are not even a little contradictory. People who are critical of intuitive eating just do not understand it. It's backed by over 100 studies!

[@HecticMolments]

I know this is old, but when Ilona said she did "eating challenges' but not mukbangs, she wasn't wrong. She meant that she'll do 'food challenges' like she would eat some of Amber's favorite meals for a day, or eat similar to Foodie Beauty for a day and then report changes to her blood sugar, mood, etc. She never sat down and ate huge amounts, she couldn't even eat as much as they did in a sitting most of the time. Also, she quit doing those because she would feel so awful after them, and the processed food wasn't something she liked.

[@zosiagorna4810]

someone get this man a new thumbnail pic for christmas buahaha

[@ObesetoBeast]

Lol, leave me alone!

[@Samijo202]

Anyone else think when he’s saying “don’t lie about why you’re making Amber reaction videos saying it’s to help her when really you’re just trying to make money” have Charlie gold immediately pop into mind and wonder if he did as well? 🤷‍♀️

[@anina4482]

22 commercials?! Come on!

[@keeleymarie5422]

I could literally listen to you talk all day and night ... that little giggle warms my heart lol

[@lexyjo]

John, I'm a pilates mom approaching 30 who has battled restrictive ED more than half of my life. This is a very niche corner, but Abbey is speaking directly to me & mi gente 🤣👏🏼💕 Buuuuuuut I also dealt with over/under-exercising and disordered...gym behavior? Lol so I need you too!!!

[@faded_love_vintage]

Dude. DUDE. WHAT ARE YOU DOING? 🤣🤣🤣 a reaction to a reaction to a reaction. I don’t have time for this 😂😂😂 but I’m also seriously impressed that you committed.

[@hiericas]

The problem is in her (Abby) video she says that people don't like amber doing mukbangs because she's obese, when there are SO MANY other reasons people don't like amber doing mukbangs.

[@AwesomeTwoTVD]

I hit the jackpot 😂 four videos in one! I was gonna watch Ilona's video and then I saw this 🤭

[@ObesetoBeast]

Definitely still watch hers!

[@freeivo5720]

@@ObesetoBeast honestly your video is better I find it funny reaction to reaction to reaction to reaction I really want to see that Go further 😂

[@maenad1231]

People who admit to having an overeating disorder _(BED, Bulimia, OSFED, etc)_ on YT and monetize excessive binge eating should be demonetized regardless of their size

[@callmecristal]

lmao the entire concept of this video.. this is what youtube has come to in 2021... i love it! keep them coming John!

[@tiffanyrussotto]

I dont really watch alot of your videos but I watched this whole video. I love llona

[@swapmovement7163]

"Intuitive eating is the way we should eat EVENTUALLY". You got me there. LOVE THIS :)

[@genevieveyork7275]

I love Chikara (Ilona), she has been so inspirational to me

[@peapotfairy]

TWENTY midrolls.

[@ObesetoBeast]

Lol, KZbin is who puts the ads on 😂 they wild

[@susanne4106]

KZbin is really digging the inception

[@peapotfairy]

@@susanne4106 lol

[@lellyt2372]

I get what you're saying but Ilona did measure blood sugar and BP for the days before and after and showed the effect of Chantal's one McDonald's breakfast and how long it lasts, even in someone healthy and fit 🤷‍♀️

[@MissCaraMint]

Yeah I do think that can be helpful. I commented more about this in deapth above, but it reminda me a lot of the differences between say an alcoholic getting drunk on camera, vs someone getting drunk to make a video about how much alcohol actually influces your driving abilities. I mean they are both drinking to get drunk which is bad right?

[@aliasdirect882]

I have to keep checking the screen to see wich beasts speaking 😂

[@passantsherif7771]

Intuitive eating got me eating instant noodles fried chicken and french fries at 11pm 😂😂😂

[@azlizzie]

Intuitive does not equal mindless. I know this is a joke but people genuinely misunderstand and think it’s just following whatever you want to eat whenever you want to eat it. It’s doing serious work and getting to a healthy place where you can trust yourself and your food choices without having to overthink every bite.

[@Psychwriteify]

Counterpoint: Intuitive eating got me to realize I hated 98% of desserts because they were boring with literally no other flavor than sweet involved and got me eating more plant based.

[@teresahunt5521]

Former fatty here. I lost 100 pounds when I was 16 and have kept it off through a healthy diet and lifting 💪💪💪

[@harlanhardway5955]

I like your channel so much, I watched a few of this woman's videos but had to stop because she had a few opinions that just kinda hit me wrong. It's cool to see you articulate that in real time.

[@AMortalDothApproach]

I wouldn't have a problem with Abbey having a specific demographic she's talking to if she was upfront about it.

[@MissKitae]

Exactly. I'd have more respect for Abbey if she'd stop with the "disclaimers" and then give her "opinion" on why certain behaviors and choices are "problematic". Also if she wouldn't cherry pick select videos for her confirmation bias. Just walk out and say it. We all know it's what you're doing with the roundabout.

[@mikanchan322]

Would absolutely prefer this! It would make a lot of sense and just illuminate her points further

[@gabrielekennedy6123]

Some people watch to "shock" themselves into action. Seeing where bad habits can lead can spur folks into change. Seeing what can happen to you if you don't change can help some people.

[@dietdevan5155]

The weight loss niche drama 👀🍿

[@elenik845]

Comparing different things though. Yes not as many people die from AN because compared to people dying from obesity complications less people have AN (in population size), but AN is still the most lethal mental health disorder and the most lethal ED when it comes to mortality rates.

[@xNextJenx]

I feel like you could literally make a book on the Lore of this drama chain 💀 😂

[@bekahsierra7313]

Her food challenges aren’t mukbangs. She does things like testing certain diets. Like she ate like Amber Lynn Reid for a day and did blood pressure readings to show how certain diets will impact your body so people can see what these influencers are doing to their body.

[@SparklesNJazz]

this is so hard to watch hearing john’s voice in two separate places, like his voice narrating over his own voice HAHHA

[@Invisible.fatty99]

It’d be gen z people, millennials aren’t teens. The youngest millennials are 25

[@jf12358]

First I watched your video, then I watched hers and now I'm here. I might have a problem...

[@tabbyroberts6242]

Rather than bringing illicit drugs into it, alcohol is a good comparison to food (at least from an addiction standpoint) Someone who drinks occasionally and sparingly vs someone who is spending each paycheck on alcohol (at the expense of rent, food, car, clothes etc). We call the latter an alcoholic and try to help them if we're close to them, it's ruining their health and their quality of life is diminishing.

[@natalie5334]

I felt John was being slightly condescending towards Ilona. Is it a big youtuber versus small youtuber thing, I don't know, but I doesn't look good that he didn't give her credit for being open-minded, understanding and decent youtuber who's not stuck in their narrow agenda.

[@carlysmith6618]

i can kinda see that. like i’m at 45:19 and i paused to see if anyone commented on it bc he seemed upset? but at the same time everyone’s different and he’s probably just joking. i think everything he said that maybe seemed condescending he was jus sorta joking around. but you may be right. it’s jus to me i feel like he wouldn’t intentionally like be rude to people like that. but may be i’m wrong.

[@natalie5334]

@@carlysmith6618 Well, for me, I wouldn't say that he was rude (and by the way I think in the majority of cases when one is being rude they don't do it purposely to be rude, it's just the moment where their true nature shines through). I think John showed unjustified condescension to a person who, yes, is to not afraid to clearly state their strong opinion, but also, seeks for truth and middle ground, yet at the same time he shows A LOT more respect to Abbey, who is pushing an agenda (a pro who is pushing an agenda - very dangerous btw). That just doesn't sit well with me. He disagrees with Abbey in a very different manner. My only guess is that he is the type of person who "respects the authority". While to me the fact that Abbey is certified dietitian doesn't say much more than the fact that she is trained to analyze and has easier access to scientific information. That's it, it doesn't require automatic extra respect. But just to be clear, I don't think John is a bad person, maybe a little misguided?

[@carlysmith6618]

@@natalie5334 yeah he does seem to have different attitudes towards both of them. but to be fair abbeys video is a little more sophisticated than ilonas. so maybe he’s jus unintentionally reacting differently.

[@adriana12995]

Yep, his attitude felt a bit condescending and not in a “Im just kidding” kind of way.

[@MopMop1234]

I love Ilona!!!! She is a breath of fresh hair!

[@RandomGrump]

She’s got a huge disconnect here. Someone in a club partying and someone on the street shooting up may both suffer from addiction. You cannot look at someone and decide their an addict, that’s not how addiction works. Neither should be glorified or monetized. The same goes for these Mukbangs in my opinion!

[@DeadeyeJoe37]

I'm listening to this in the background while I work. I don't know if I'm listening to the time capsule John or the live John.

[@Amanda.aka.Megan.Shines]

Binging in a mukbang and then cycling 100 miles to compensate is bulimia though, right? I'm almost certain that excessive exercise is one of the compensation methods listed in the DSM-5 for the bulimia requirements. I have never heard of the guy mentioned so idk anything about him, but being ridiculously healthy doesn't negate the fact that the guy sounds like he could meet the requirements for bulimia.

[@harryveras5708]

20 freaking ads dood help please

[@Wilbetheway]

Love Ilona, she's great!

[@joy-annell1059]

I have to admit I was scared to get weightloss surgery or lose weight because I didn't want to have lose skin, but I saw a doctor on here who said don't worry about something that isn't even a worry right now. Now I'm down 128 lbs 😁

[@pegaseg70]

Well done!