Freelee ROASTED Me (I am NOT NATTY, & Bully)

[@TuesdaysArt]

I see why she's called a frugivore...she's a real cherry picker.

[@jokinglyskeptical95]

Solid joke. I like this 😆

[@RandomGrump]

😂🤣🤣🤣 This is it.

[@julia-vt7jj]

LOL!!!!

[@JauntyCrepe]

LOL! A+

[@Vivienwestphal]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 You won the comment section

[@valeriepoulin4297]

Freelee: That's an easy way to frame a person as an extremist Also Freelee: ***begins her video by framing John as a cash grabbing, testorone using bully***

[@ZEN-qb1lu]

She likes to call everyone a cash grabber and a lying scammer.. narcassistic people always project their bad deeds onto others and accuse them of what they themselves are actually doing

[@dinasimone9815]

@@ZEN-qb1lu yes, so true

[@Christmasminions]

While not John's most Elegant rebuttal, I would like to note that Freelee cut large chunks out of her video where John talks about how eating the excessive calories is detrimental to Anna's health. She also seems to cut any sections where John talks about facts and science. So she calls him dumb for not using science and then cuts out all valid points in his video and ramps up the accusations of steroids. This video is an excellent example of gaslighting.

[@rachelellis8416]

EXACTLY!!!!

[@rachelellis8416]

Interacting for the algorithm! Need to get this boosted up!!

[@basshead7171]

Transparency is obviously not her goal

[@theladymirage]

it didn't fit her narrative

[@leainasfs5016]

oh my god yes! It made me so mad

[@dracula667.]

I can't believe her whole argument against him was "I can't believe someone can look that good naturally. He must be taking something." that's actually fucking hilarious.

[@just_call_me_desi]

well she is absolutely hideous inside and OUT

[@valent.327]

that good looking is very very far from a natural border i mean veeery faaar, he just has muscles and pumped up the the pictures but he has a nice amount of course but thats kinda funny how people dont have a clue like her.

[@elizabethbryce4283]

I’m too high for this John reacting to Freelee reacting to John reacting to Freelee reacting to Glitter and Lazers inception.

[@HillaryHorror]

Omg I didn't even realize the reaction inception went so deep 😆🤣☠️

[@elizabethbryce4283]

@@HillaryHorror I get so confused. “WAIT.... which video was paused?” We are following trains of thought about trains of thought. How did the internet get here??? We are watching people watching people watching people watching people!!!

[@steelfalconx2000]

Lol I was just thinking about this.

[@mandylisak]

@@steelfalconx2000 lol me too

[@ydonnay3145]

LOL. Thank for this...

[@TheRonda163]

I feel like she has a messiah complex. "I'm here to bring the truth" on repeat. She acts as if her specific diet is the ticket to heaven.

[@alnklar]

Yep, serious cult leader vibes

[@RussellSyx]

A vegan diet is also a great way to make ZERO gains (and lose your hair/teeth)

[@Flow-sy]

@@RussellSyx *a bullshit vegan diet. Just need to know what you're doing xD

[@TheMightyFuChan]

@@RussellSyx being vegan can be sustainable if you know what you are doing. You can eat junk food and be vegan. Its really sad that freelee is the poster child for vegans, it makes the rest of them look crazy

[@ZEN-qb1lu]

Here to bring us the truth but has a long history of compulsive lying since the beginning of her youtube career

[@Quantonsennuie]

I used to follow freelee and her advice. End result: I lost my menstrual cycle, I had major digestive issues and I became scared of non-whole foods, like terrified. This, in and of itself, is not healthy, even if you improve your physical health if you also develop orthorexia along the way then it is NOT healthy.

[@bobbi5355]

I hope your doing okay now ❤️❤️❤️

[@LilMissNicolson]

I followed her advice for years and during that time I continuously gained weight and experienced EXTREME hunger, in the sense it seemed like no matter how much I ate I was outrageously hungry in about half an hour. After doing it for about a year, I ended up going back to being vegetarian and due to losing SO MUCH muscle, I gained 20 pounds in six months. It was by far the most UNHELPFUL DIET ADVICE I have EVER followed in my life. What I realised after, was that it is just EXTREMELY difficult to eat a lot of calories on that diet. I was coming from a place of extreme restriction, hence why I gained weight but recently I went back and looked at how much I was eating at the time and it couldn't have been more than 1500-2000, which is why my weight stayed down. When I went up to eating the amount I eat now (2500 - 3000...I'm very active btw), I uncontrollably and very quickly gained more weight than I'd ever gained in my entire life. This was due to running a lot and barely doing any weight training or eating any protein, which is exactly what she suggested. She owes so many people an explanation and honestly, I think she's done more damage to veganism than good.

[@Mggrande998]

Went on raw till 4, gained weight, made my PCOS so much worse, and also developed hashimotos. Great fun.....

[@AnaNas-bm2uv]

Following freele I gained 10kg, caused me to binge (whith which I still struggle sometimes), also developed insulin resistance. Thank you so much frelee 🥰💕

[@ariannahernandez4745]

@@AnaNas-bm2uv I'm so sorry for the dumb advice freele gave you but I just had to comment that i love your youtube name. pineapple. it's cute and clever.

[@dct90210]

She is watering down John's success accusing him of taking drugs?? Very disgusting and slanderous. He can sue her and strike her channel for this.

[@beckybergman6023]

He is too nice to pull that. Couldnt same for her. Smh

[@Reese842]

He is flattered. He took pictures with a workout pump ...

[@strongeronplants]

She is shame for veganism and all of us who are trying to represent healthy and more ethical way of life. Really sad.

[@SpookySammy]

Just because she's had bad experiences with junkies doesn't mean all guys that go to the gym juice up. Natty all the way.

[@Connie-sh3kf]

She’s a bully, her way or it’s wrong.

[@haleysimpson528]

“I’m attacked because I’m bringing the truth” said every cult leader ever 😅

[@xosecox12]

She is more than welcome to find an abandoned island with no internet to live with her cult. Animal Crossing: 100 Bananas

[@LongHairCarolyn]

Ain't that the truth!

[@MrC0MPUT3R]

First they laugh at you. Then they fight you. Then you -win- go to jail.

[@bm4867]

I want to know why he skipped the reality of what he supports three times a day ?

[@masunrise7471]

I know this is old but I am just watching this lol and I have to comment that this is a HILARIOUS comment. LMAO

[@yma1233]

BS. I used to follow freelee back in the day and she DEFINITELY DID promote eating 30 bananas a day. We remember, girl. I followed her advice and I got EXTREMELY sick. I was vegan for 5 years and my mental/physical health went to complete shit and I would also lie about how good I felt because I wanted others to be vegan.

[@leopardshadow333]

Followed her and durian rider around 2011, can confirm they both not only promoted eating 30 bananas a day, they promoted it as the only right way to eat healthy, and claimed to be eating that way themselves every day(maybe they were, idk).

[@Cherry-vw5ru]

Banana doesn't even have enough nutrition you need per day. If you eat too much of one food, you will get sick... Her diet is trash :/

[@jsmilz86]

Didn't she go on tv saying that

[@rubainthesky8167]

Freelee: "he didn't do any research on me and what I stand for" Also freelee, 2 minutes earlier:"I believe his name is...John??!!" Lmao

[@Ashley-nope]

“I don’t promote just eating bananas!” Moments later, “following freelees advice I’ve eaten XXX banana and XXX potatos in a month.”

[@miglek9613]

I don't disagree with you but I don't even remember the faces of some people I see everyday so I don't think that's proof of her not doing research

[@miglek9613]

@@Ashley-nope well technically she's right, she's promoting eating bananas and potatoes lol. Still sounds like a sad, sad life tho

[@Ashley-nope]

@@miglek9613 XD

[@xosecox12]

@@miglek9613 I have IBS that was caused by my ED and potatoes and bananas are what I eat (obviously not in large amounts) when I'm sick because they are bland and won't make me throw up as easily. My doctor has made it clear to call him if I don't feel better in 48 hours because I would be malnourished if I kept eating that way much longer. And she's promoting this as a LIFE LONG diet. It's scary.

[@gracehawthorne840]

I'm a vegan and freelee drives me crazy. She makes vegans seem insane and irrational. The LARGE majority of people who eat plant-based do not think or act like her. We eat normal, balanced meals. We respect other people's choices. Most of the vegans I know literally won't even talk about veganism unless someone asks because we know no one cares. Please do not think vegans like her represent us

[@rachelellis8416]

As a fellow vegan, I totally agree!!! She is such an embarrassment.

[@VindiVinchi1]

I'm not vegan but I don't drink milk and started eating some vegan cheese. I don't believe all vegans are like her (she's crazy). I have massive respect for vegans and thank you for not pushing veganism on others!

[@thesandydragon6433]

This I respect so much!

[@lindsayjohnson5672]

I'm a vegetarian who eats eggs but no other animal products and I'm so disgusted and embarrassed by freelee

[@JauntyCrepe]

Vegan here just co-signing this

[@designateddoser7651]

The way she just DECIDES you’re on steroids

[@DreamDear]

The signs of a manipulator

[@HavinganAmazingLife]

His whole demeanour has changed in his response, who's funny now. She proved her blood tests show she's healthy. Can obese to beast do that?

[@dct90210]

@@HavinganAmazingLife blood tests do not indicate overall health. Obese people can have good labs. Fit people can have bad labs.

[@HavinganAmazingLife]

Yeah I mean why no blood tests to say... he's not on steroids.. His whole demeanor changed in this video. It's like he was shot down to reality that laughing at and educated person make you look like a douche bag. I get it Freelee comes across strong. If you've always been a meat eater then PB or vegan seems very extreme. Once you actually stop eating meat and animal products you do feel amazing and you do think hey that's cruel what we do to eat them as a society. Even if that wasn't your reason for going Plant based it's a natural progression too go towards veganism. You realise wow we can function without meat way better than on meat and animal products. I find Freelees approach isn't gentle enough. Same as I find OtoB uneducated and really struggling to understand that his approach is lame laughing at really valid points. It just makes him look stupid. Really really stupid. Just not getting it in this day and age.

[@timmah7874]

@@HavinganAmazingLife Claiming someone is on steroids just by looking at them is shit you see on bro weightlifting channels, it's something high school kids do. Telling someone who is overweight to eat 5000 kcals of bananas and the magical powers of fruits and vegetables will fix everything isn't backed by science. CICO is CICO if you're eating 5,000 kcals of donuts or 5,000 Kcals of fruit and vegetables. You're so ideologically attached to veganism that you can't be convinced that a balanced omnivorous diet that falls within actual caloric needs is just fine too.

[@-laetitia-4631]

Freelee: Human beings are meant to be frugivore Me, living in Europe: since nature doesn't provide any fruit at least 7 months a year, I guess I should fast?

[@J.B.0815]

And hibernation. Fasting and hibernating.

[@MsPeabody1231]

@The beauty of it all Where do I get nuts and seeds in winter?

[@therealmdp9313]

I feel like freelee is a bit like the onision of the vegan world.

[@KiaraLioness]

This is so accurate 😂😂😂😂

[@hulyasagr5862]

funny thing onion boy is(or was ıdk) vegan too. (Seriously vegans are either extremely nice or very toxic )

[@mariahcorley9483]

As a vegan I completely agree with this! She is nuts and makes us all look bad. Veganism can be healthy for some of us. Medically speaking it's the only why I can eat. My diet is watched and advised by my doctors, I get bloodwork every 6 months. Veganism has been a life saver for me personally.. With all that said it is not for everyone for so many reasons. She doesn't help spread veganism in a positive way. More so since she is not educated in nutrition, she should in no way tell others how to eat.

[@mariahcorley9483]

She used to offer people to come stay with he,r so she could "help" them fix their diets. There was a lot of drama around it. It was sketchy, if I remember correctly.

[@mariahcorley9483]

@@user-rl6wr2ny7f I agree with you. I'm sorry to hear you are struggling with your health and I wish you luck. Veganism is great but there needs to be a line between it and medical needs. Heck even financial needs, food deserts. It's unfortunate that the majority of people learn about veganism, from being exposed to radical vegans. With the mentality. It's all or nothing. They are gate keeping and giving a bad name to the movement. It's great that you have it a shot. I'm sorry it didn't work out in your favor. Don't feel bad about it, just keep doing your best. It's not about perfection, it's about doings what you are capable of given whatever circumstance you have.

[@gusberg2147]

I love that her personal attacks boil down to “John is too shredded.”

[@mimistardust3915]

Oh no big man have big muscles he use steroids 😂 she's a big ol' bag of yikes.

[@Flow-sy]

He just doesn't fit into her belief system xD

[@pauljohnagustin237]

Was that even an attack? To me, that would be a compliment 😂

[@kristin2798]

🤣

[@andreaberryman5354]

Haha! 🤣

[@mally6101]

i did her diet for a year in 2015 and gained 30 lbs in a year. i was so uncomfortable, bloated, tired all the time and incredibly sad. i gave it up and stopped eating almost all fruit (aside from berries and apples) for a year and could barely look at a smoothie. i didn't even need to give up veganism! i just started eating tofu, mock meats, beans and nuts, and tons more plant based proteins and fats. it's like freelee just can't comprehend the concept of a BALANCED vegan diet. it's insane - her "advice" has ruined so many people's bodies and relationship with food. still to this day i can't stomach more than one banana a week. humans are NOT meant to eat mostly fruit. also, your teeth will rot out of your head if you do.

[@aleswitch]

Oh my gosh yes!!! Several years ago I went through the same experience, trying the craziness that freelee promotes and I still can't smell a banana without my stomach hurting and feeling nauseous!! I struggled so hard to get the banana smoothies in, but would feel so unwell afterwards that I could only crawl back into bed, in the foetal position and wait several hours for the nausea and stomach cramps to dissipate!! A well balanced and planned vegan diet is definitely the way of eating that makes me feel my best. I realise that it can't work well for everyone though. Something freelee will never be able to accept!!

[@KiaraLioness]

It's crazy how many people did the same thing! I followed Freelee and was vegan in 2015, the one and only thing I thank my eating disorder for is stopping me from trying her diet. Simply because the calories terrified me😂

[@LongHairCarolyn]

Fruit is pretty rough on my system. It messes with my gut. I do a lot better with a focus on vegetables and a little fruit.

[@123451234596]

Thank you for still being vegan (for the animals!) but now have a healthy, balanced vegan diet

[@Cherry-vw5ru]

Her diet doesn't make sense, because her diet goes over daily diet intake. Of course, people are going to gain weight....that is why health professionals exist as well as scientists..... she doesn't even have degrees :/

[@Puinii]

"I don't recommend people taking drugs" Ok then, guess I'll just stop taking my meds for my Crohn's and just let it wreck my intestines and eat a ton of fruits everyday and give myself extreme pain instead. Seems like a reasonable lifestyle, yes, yes Freelee.

[@Reese842]

Exactly, allow my auto immune disease and familial history of high cholesterol to wreck my health instead.

[@katerrinah5442]

Yeah I'd I ate that amount of fruit I'd be left with no choice but to take drugs to combat the extreme pain I'd be in 🤦‍♀️

[@Determined-Dani]

"Don't trust modern medicine" morphs into "Share your bloodtests" for her as well. So dumb.

[@neen42]

I've been vegan for 9 years but had RA for 7. Being vegan doesn't cure or prevent everything (or things that aren't directly related to poor diet). That's not why I do it.

[@Raven.13]

@Pweenie You should try a plant based diet. Many people have become completely symptom free eating that way.

[@fishoverboardpictures1871]

Freelee: He is not supporting his claims Also Freelee: He is taking drugs bc a guy I used to date took drugs and he also muscled

[@karmichaelblue]

You’re dealing with a narcissist, John. I recommend not feeding her ego with these response videos.

[@Mrs.JessRich]

Best advice!

[@FirstFallSnow]

She doesn't think John can be that muscular without testosterone because she doesn't get enough protein and doesn't know what natural, healthy growth is.

[@jesstaff5346]

Just watching two Freelee's vibrate on their exercise balls on both sides of the screen makes me anxious in a way i cant quite explain

[@Lemontree816]

And the hair touches....it drives me insane!

[@lattemeowcchiato3767]

Saame

[@lunarotimas]

double bounce!

[@ramblinganna]

Oh, that’s what that was, I just thought she really needed to pee 😂😂

[@DJ_HRT]

Underrated comment lol. I didn’t realize why i felt so jumpy

[@trinketeerrine6674]

Anybody who was around in the vegan community a few years back, when she was still with Durianrider, knows she lost the weight (she didn't have much to lose tbh, she was always thin/skinny fat at her worst... ) by biking all day (biking trip across Australia), that she maintains her weight on her insane diet by overexercising and that the people who were successful on her diet were not eating as much as she recommended... People who were really trying to stick to the diet she prescribed for everyone ended up gaining an insane amount of weight and she tried to pass it off as "metabolic damage" that would magically disappear after being on the diet for long enough... It doesn't make any sense at all and she straight up made things up to sell her miracle diet and lifestyle to gullible people.

[@JennRighter]

Not to mention she was horrible to people who did anything she deemed "unnatural" yet she herself has breast implants. Not here to judge her for that, but she was there to judge everyone else about it. She got called out SO much about it (because of how very rare it is for someone so, so thin to have breasts her size), she then admitted she got breast implants but claimed it was for health reasons. This isn't about the implants, this is about her dishonesty and hypocrisy. It's also just bizarre, she values being thin above pretty much anything. And any time someone loses weight or is thin that doesn't do exactly what she promotes, she baselessly claims they're lying (they have an eating disorder, they're on steroids, etc). I mean, this woman, Leah, came after Jenna Marbles. Possibly the most beloved creator on all of KZbin. Yet she accuses other people of using HER name for views??? She built her entire career not just using other creators for views but being cruel in doing so. She also called Abbey Sharp fat. Which is obviously insane.

[@CheekyCherry]

Ugh, exactly. RT4 and that Thailand fruitbat cult was so toxic!

[@jasmineandsilvia]

Yes I gained about 20 pounds on her diet and it took forever to get it off. My mom would just look at me like I was psychotic when I would eat

[@esmee6308]

Expenditure matters so much... That bouncing alone probably burns more than half of the people in my social circles do. :'')

[@graciek4700]

Yes, remember Julia Boer?

[@Goriewhorie]

Freelee definitely contributed to my ED and self hatred in high school Also dying at the "no I'm not" "no I'm not" "I do not" Her on the exercise ball in fast forward has me dead

[@dinasimone9815]

You cannot argue with a narcissist. Its not possible. They have no accountability, social rules dont apply to them, and they attack you on a personal level when you criticise them.

[@AmeliaLidstrom]

this is a very concise and accurate description of a narcissist

[@misswaldo91]

Oh, gee. Watching two Freelees bouncing on an exercise ball is nightmare-ish.

[@mell1036]

Oh that's the reason why she is bouncing. 😅 I was really confused as to why anyone would be bouncing so much because I wasn't familiar with her

[@80islandia]

Agreed; the multilayered bouncing is like a bad drug trip.

[@HopelessSinner]

Carrie C I was feeling sea-sick by the end...!! 🤮🥴

[@elizabethcastillo3315]

I thought I was the only one who was majorly triggered

[@Valleyhearts]

kinda rich for a woman who tried to sell like 9 recipe books in one vid b4 to try and say "OMG UR SELLING SHIRTS?"

[@rebeccaspratling2865]

I thought she only had the 2?😂 Her book is free for download on certain websites. She got them taken down before but someone put them back up. Lmao!

[@somenobody5099]

So, since she's vegan, is this still considered beef?

[@juliannecolosi271]

Vegan beef, probably

[@Jayne_Rose]

It's the only beef she will allow herself on her super restrictive diet.

[@user-se2nq6vo6j]

@@Jayne_Rose is restrictive not to murder and consume animals?

[@Jayne_Rose]

@@user-se2nq6vo6j In regards to not eating animals, no that's not really restrictive if you're eating a range of fruit, veggies, soy products, rice, seeds, nuts, legumes and wheat based foods etc I have nothing against vegans and vegetarians, have enjoyed being so from time to time myself and I rather enjoy the content created by The easy vegan and Unnatural vegan. A diet only consisting of fruit is very restrictive.

[@user-se2nq6vo6j]

@@Jayne_Rose Okay I accept that view. And glad to see you recongise that. But why dou like to be from time to time but not adopt the lifestyle?

[@ZairUmbras]

If she wants to throw shade about drugs though, maybe she can explain why she's eating 3-5k calories, staying skinny, and seeming like a 5 year old that got his hands on a 20oz Redbull. In my anecdotal experience, that's the symptoms of some one smoking rocks, which has the same validity as her argument of thinking John is on roids...

[@simonatheod6867]

People find it mindblowing that somebody who only eats fruits and vegetables is skinny

[@ZairUmbras]

@Melanated Princess That's not how that works. That's not how any of that works. Nature didn't intend for us to eat anything. It has clearly told humans to 'fuck off' on a number of things. Spiciness is one such "Don't eat this" feature of plants, yet we use it as a seasoning to our food now because we adapted to liking it. And eating 3-5k calories worth of bananas is vastly more than a normal human would eat. Your average banana has 100-120 calories. That's about 30 bananas in a day. It would definitely make you fat and could possibly cause issues with your kidneys with the strain brought on by excessive potassium and vitamin C. Even if nature intended for us to eat bananas, it would not want us to eat 30 of them.

[@johannas.l.brushane2518]

​​@@ZairUmbrasYes, Steve Jobs was a fruitarian and likely his way too early death with pancreatic cancer and failing liver had something to do with decades of fructose overload to these organs. Especially since fruits and vegs we typically get from stores have been specifically refined during last decades for purpose of having better shelf life and to better last in transport. And sometimes becoming sweeter.

[@Sheoutsider]

😂😂😂

[@Christmas7731]

😂 John's "you told me to do it" has the same "we were on a break" Ross's energy! Lmao. Love you John, never change 😂

[@olehaugan9555]

She is so narcissistic. She can’t admit when she is in the wrong.

[@PedroMRDS]

If she admited she was in the wrong she wouldn't have a carreer

[@xosecox12]

She literally lied about having a degree. She’s a pathological liar is the biggest problem.

[@rachelh588]

She is so self righteous and annoying

[@kayjay5349]

That's all I can think any time I see content with her in it! She is a textbook narcissist - constantly deflecting, gaslighting and projecting. And she is above reproach (she thinks)! In Freely's world, she is a savior - just look at all this work she does to help others, going out of her way to tear people down so she can plug her product.

[@sarahelizabeth2359]

@asdds ffddd being vegan just means you’re against animal abuse.

[@viixenous]

“I don’t overly exercise!” .... she says while bouncing on an exercise ball 😂

[@rachelellis8416]

OMG 😂🤣🤣

[@Gaia_Seraphina]

Maybe that's just hyperactivity due to the high sugar consumption. Btw, she *has* to overexercize to stay this thin. Unless her body is magical ... cuz a difference in metabolism which is THAT big, doesn't exist in humans.

[@ThreePinkButtons]

She used to say this and she and her ex used to cycle like 30 miles a day 🤣

[@LindaC616]

I don't watch her, and wondered wtf she was bouncing like she was on a hippity hop

[@paula889]

@@Gaia_Seraphina Not accusing her of anything, but there's other ways she can stay skinny- like not actually eating this way and lying about her consumption . . . or just classic purging.

[@paige2567]

Freelee: lies O2B: she’s lying Freelee: he’s using steroids O2B: 💜😛😘😅🥺🥰🤝 luv u girl

[@marlasue83]

They're definitely getting married now. No doubts 😉😁😄😆

[@7ShadowMaiden7]

@@marlasue83 *douche voice* no doubt no doubt dawg

[@7ShadowMaiden7]

But yah John is super nice to freelee, nicer than she has deserved but it does make him look better.

[@ZEN-qb1lu]

Freekee is so jealous of Abby who has an actual degree in nutrition and doesn't have to lie about it like freelee did on national television..lol 😂

[@RambutanIllustration]

"I am controversal because I am speaking the truth" only say extremists that spread wrong information all over, like it would make them more believable. How can anyone believe her??

[@itsdrea2353]

I can literally quote you a part of my Evolutionary Bio course that supports this- Pseudoscience: The original idea is never abandoned, whatever the evidence. A person is often selling questionable products (such as books, courses, and dietary supplements) and/or pseudoscientific services (such as horoscopes, character readings, spirit messages, and predictions). Warning signs of pseudoscience: 1) The discoverer pitches the claim directly to the media. 2) The discoverer says that a powerful establishment is trying to suppress his or her work. 3) The scientific effect involved is always at the very limit of detection. e.g. no clear picture of flying saucer 4) Evidence for a discovery is anecdotal - never trust anecdotal evidence 5) The discoverer says a belief is credible because it has endured for centuries. 6) The discoverer has worked in isolation 7) The discoverer must propose new laws of nature to explain an observation.

[@umindlukas]

Brainwashed

[@noah5291]

Sup guys. Freelee does not represent all vegans. Please don't use this as an opportunity to hate post about veganism. Veganism is NOT a diet. It's an ethical principle that affects your diet. That ethical principle is basically: "Veganism is a philosophy and way of living which seeks to exclude-as far as is possible and practicable-all forms of exploitation of, and cruelty to, animals for food, clothing or any other purpose; and by extension, promotes the development and use of animal-free alternatives for the benefit of animals, humans and the environment. In dietary terms it denotes the practice of dispensing with all products derived wholly or partly from animals." If you want to talk about veganism or have any questions, hit me up. *edits: I just want to say that freelee is a vegan. I edited my post because i want to make it clear that she is vegan, and i believe that her reasons for being vegan are correct and she does make good arguements for veganism. I think that raw veganism however, and calling normal people terrible people is not the best way to approach things. Everyone makes bad choice, we should let people change and improve.

[@FreyasArts]

Unfortunately I cannot go vegan due to health reasons, but I try practicing mindful shopping and looking out what food I buy, like free range eggs.

[@noah5291]

@@FreyasArts Mind if I ask what your reasons/conditions are? If you don't want to go into detail, no pressure. Medical conditions are very personal.

[@mattmon6118]

Sounds like pythagoreanism, without the math. (I’m not here to troll, i promise, it’s just, having studied some of the classics, it reminds me of pythagoreanism). As to worrying about people painting all vegans with the Freelee brush, I hope that doesn’t happen, all individuals are, um, individual, even if they share certain things with others no two are alike. Unless of course they’re twins, or in a cult or something (sorry, I’m rambling)

[@FreyasArts]

@@noah5291 I just have a bunch of allergies, so my food palette is already quite limited and I'm not a fan of taking supplements.

[@trejosworld]

Brain Turner is a cool dude who’s Vegan.

[@Sparkle__Punk]

Freelee: eat your weight in fructose to get skinny! O2B: that's not healthy or sustainable Freelee: i'M JuzT TelliNg pEOple tO Eat mOre FrUitz AnD VeGgieZ hoW iS thAt nOt HEaltHy?!

[@leidelend5021]

Lol that's the classic Freelee argument. "I'm not encourage eating disorders when I attack fat women to pedal my books with a phony diet not recommended by registered dieticians, I'm just telling you to eat fruit!!!"

[@Theelderscrolls52]

I had an ED in undergrad and she was one of the people I followed. I LOVE fruit! Toddler and I eat a good bit of fruit. But just eating fruit is not good for you. I am still plant based but it’s so much balanced.

[@HavinganAmazingLife]

Her book has cooked meals in it. So what's your comment about.? All fruit isn't what it is about. Her book is Raw to 4. People should eat more fruit. Your brain runs in fruit sugars. As for registered dieticians. All degrees for nutrition is out of date. Do you actually know how the food pyramid was invented, obviously not because otherwise you wouldn't go to dieticians who just spout industry misinformation. But hey it's your body.

[@Ashley-nope]

@@HavinganAmazingLife no your brain literally runs only on fats. Wtf kind of nutrition books are you reading. There is a reason your brain is the most fatty organ in the body.

[@ArtisticMood]

@@HavinganAmazingLife I feel like you are freelee with an alt account just fighting everyone and defending yourself. You are replying to a lot of comments just repeating what she said...

[@dietdevan5155]

Bruh she literally sounds like the typical online marketer scammer.

[@BushidoMauve]

I'm saying tho.

[@cherryblossomlotus]

You are spot on!

[@nicoleacosta4100]

Because she is.

[@kennytheawkwarddonut9137]

Bruh, she sounds like a flat-earther

[@sivadakrie]

Get one Freelee point for every banana eaten by your downline.

[@elkechristina1120]

She might have the clearest blood but she's also not been on her period for years...

[@barbaracurtis3801]

Of course she's menstruating, her blood is just clear. Lol

[@shandacrouch4946]

I swear to god if she does a reaction to your reaction of her reaction and I see three of her bouncing on that fucking ball at one time I may lose it lol

[@somethinggood9267]

Yes. It has to stop somewhere. 🍌

[@Sara-yc4en]

Watching both Freelees bounce up and down on the screen does not fill me with confidence about her message lol

[@camihuelmo]

You know what does she fill me with? ANXIETY. Like can't she just stand still for 3 seconds please!

[@srhccc]

ahaha! I usually watch these videos on 2x speed and so it's even more annoying to see her bounce up and down every 0.25 seconds

[@msgrant221]

She is a conspiracy theorist. That is why she's using anecdotal evidence and emotional arguments instead of backing her claims with science.

[@Ashley-fd6oj]

She literally backs all her claims with articles and studies lol?

[@msgrant221]

​@@Ashley-fd6oj where did she include studies? The only thing she did was show screenshots/videos from a few of her followers, aka anecdotal evidence and emotional arguments.

[@eoinryan8222]

She is also an anti vaxxer

[@alnklar]

She feels more like a cult leader to me D:

[@marioanid4710]

@@Ashley-fd6oj she has not shown studies.. she just picks charts and stuff on google to back up her claim while they do not really have evidence, just cherry picked by vegan extremists.

[@JulietteVeronica1201]

"Just laughing, mocking, no science." Honey, Freelee, you just described yourself.

[@estherrodriguez2054]

Plus... she skipped everything of substance that John had to say. Completely skipped the part where she was bullying this lady saying that she was going to die tomorrow!

[@HavinganAmazingLife]

@@estherrodriguez2054 Fat people do die younger. Being fat is horrible. It's not healthy. It's an addiction. Do you find that hard to understand. It's not bullying to say that it's true.

[@estherrodriguez2054]

@@HavinganAmazingLife it is bullying if it’s done to make yourself feel superior and get you extra cash, like freelee the crazy lady.

[@JulietteVeronica1201]

@@HavinganAmazingLife That’s like saying to an anorexic just eat cause you’ll die tomorrow if you don’t. No one would think that would be ok. Unless you’re trying to be educational, and not bouncing online screaming, then yeah it’s fine.

[@mandarinsandclementines2997]

@@HavinganAmazingLife Yes, we all are aware that being fat can be incredibly unhealthy. Did you check what channel you are on?

[@kaingaire4032]

“He’s a frugavore” “That’s what he is” “No I’m not”😂

[@TheAnneGwish]

That part SENT me! Lmfao!

[@dreborst23x]

“A frugavore says what?” “What?” “Got him”

[@Starburst75]

That got me giggling too. “No I’m not. No, I’m not. No i don’t” I really love him. Just subbed a week ago.

[@samijo8188]

This is bullshit John is the sweetest human being! Can’t stand the false accusations & misinformation. Keep doing you John we love you for you!

[@J.B.0815]

It's so typical for her to throw bullsh*t to the nicest people on YT. Freelee will never change.

[@kail5839]

I found Freelee's videos years ago when I was very insecure of my body. I was also very uneducated on nutrition and weight loss. Her videos and her message 100% screwed up my body and my mindset. I love fruit and other carbs so I was excited to see a lifestyle composed of mostly fruit and carb consumption. Her claims that it reversed Type II diabetes particularly appealed to me as it runs in my family. Well I gained weight. A lot of it. I fell into a deep depression and gave up. Years later, I ate a balanced diet with a slight caloric deficit and lost 60 pounds, putting me in a healthy BMI category. Freelee's videos are predatory and prey on young, teenage girls.

[@msgrant221]

Bet she won't show this comment in her videos

[@dobcsek]

When I went vegan, I followed many vegan bloggers that ate a high carb low fat diet. I love carbs, hate calorie counting and wanted to lose 20 pounds so it seemed like the perfect diet for me. I put on 13 pounds while on this lifestyle within 11 months despite of my efforts to tweak the diet to make it “healthier”. I went to a doctor who asked me to log my meals to review it. She was shocked when she saw the amount of fruits I was eating. At the time I ate a lot of banana nice creams that consisted of 2-3 bananas, dates, other fruits. The doctor told me that I should not exceed a couple of pieces of fruits per day and I need to go on a more balanced diet that consists of 50% veggies, 25% carbs and 25% protein. I lost the 13 pounds since and an extra 10 since, and all this this year, when we have a lot of stress due to Covid and limited amount of opportunities due to gym closures. I feel great and will continue this lifestyle forever. I’m not saying that being on a high carb low fat vegan diet is harmful for everyone, but it was not working for me.

[@ThymeofGhost]

I love your profile pic by the way, childhood throwback!

[@Amia1013]

"PUT THAT DRUG DOWN!" "...sir, I'm eating a candy bar." "THAT'S DRUGS!" I'm paraphrasing because I can't stop laughing while writing this lol

[@Dreabz617]

I was a senior in high school when I first stumbled upon Freelee’s channel and her videos where she recommends that ppl only eat bananas and exercise for many hrs every day. I was still a teenager and had image insecurities that are typical for that age. I remember really questioning my diet and seriously contemplating following Freelee’s advice because I wanted my body to be as toned as hers. I also remember feeling ashamed of my then diet (which was just my mom’s home cooking) because she was so convincing that what I had been eating my entire life was wrong, unethical and bad for me. I’m glad it was a fleeting idea because when I look back I really think it would’ve lead to an eating disorder. She’s so toxic and her content is completely baseless..so I 100% agree that she spreads dangerous misinformation on her channel that could lead to disordered eating.

[@raisedbyskags1904]

Honestly you should just sue her for defamation of character. She's publicly advising she knows for a fact that you use drugs when 1. It isn't true, and 2. She has no proof to back up her clear statement. And demanding to see someone's bloodwork is creepy af.

[@kariemelje8468]

I’ll bet Freelee sent that message to herself, posing as someone else.

[@rollmeister]

When someone disables or heavily moderates comments, that is a sign of things. She is not liked for years now.

[@aishareed5252]

Many figures in history were hated for bringing new ideas to the forefront. They were mocked, shunned and told they were wrong. One who is trying to bring about change should not care if they are liked. She will be celebrated for what she is bringing forth in the future when the ideas are clearly seen and ready for the minds of today.

[@ZEN-qb1lu]

@@aishareed5252 oh please.. freelee is not a prophet..she is a compulsive liar scamming people for $$$

[@aishareed5252]

@@ZEN-qb1lu When your eyes close mines are open. When my eyes close yours are open. In case you don't get what I am saying, it means I see through my lense you see through yours. Take care.

[@aishareed5252]

@Onyx 2020 perhaps, but we should take the emotions out of it and see what is left. Carry on.

[@ZEN-qb1lu]

@@aishareed5252 she lied on national television. this isn't about my perception versus yours. This is about reality

[@lizza4250]

I'm sorry, but anyone that demands to see someone else's blood work AND falsely states someone is taking substances with ZERO proof IS a bad person.

[@DreamDear]

Preach!

[@poppandabebo9672]

Not to mention the fact that it took freelee months almost a year to post her new blood test results. she didn't even post/ show the entire thing just positive results in some ares while skipping over stuff like her iron for example And making excuses for b12

[@lizza4250]

@@poppandabebo9672 that does not surprise me in the least. I'd love to see what she would say about a morbidly obese person with perfect bloodwork. If that's the yardstick she's using to measure health as it appears here, what would she say to those people? 🤔🤣

[@jessiepage7698]

@@poppandabebo9672 and it took her 6 years to post updated blood test results after people constantly asked her to show them.

[@mattmon6118]

I don’t usually comment, But is it me, or is she using her subscribers as shields rather than make her own arguments?

[@The_Chef2511]

Her channel is basically a cult.

[@Cthulhuhues]

Its weight watchers but you get diabetes at the end of it

[@orbitalchild]

🤫🤫🤫🤫🤫 don't give away her secret

[@Rosa-ei4dm]

Lmao she cut out so many of his points and just like "OwO he's bullying, he's taking steroids, he's making money". And she didn't link to the original video so people couldn't see the stuff she'd cut, whereas John linked to hers so people could check!

[@Eccentric_Villain]

When I was just starting out being Vegan, I fell into the Freelee trap. Lost a ton of weight, then ended up being malnourished and almost dead in hospital with red flag sepsis. I was shocked to find out my body was on severe starvation mode, apparently one smells like a nail salon in this state. So this type of diet is not healthy in any way. And to boot I now have a permanent chronic pain disease because of the trauma of this so called diet brought to my body... I do not condone what freelee is doing. Nowadays I have adopted the eat sensibly diet. I eat things in moderation, because it’s common sense.

[@snowangel21111]

As an Australian, I just want to apologize for freelee. She's embarrassing and I wish she'd change her accent or something so as to stop being associated with the rest of us.

[@orbitalchild]

As somebody from the United States, the country that gave the world the orange Cheeto in charge, I'm pretty confident in saying you have nothing to apologize for.

[@jessicabrighton8733]

@@orbitalchild hahaha both you guys are funny !

[@user-se2nq6vo6j]

What is embarassing is you feeling the need to tell that joke

[@malsiecolouraddict2189]

As a fellow Aussie I agree! Not our finest representation 🙄

[@qualcunoacaso6733]

Please don’t. I love her and she’s the one who made me curious about Australia and showed me some beautiful parts of your country. Hello from Europe 🇦🇺🇪🇺

[@sydknee765]

Bruh, the way she nods along with herself is so cringe.

[@JennRighter]

She was horrible to people who did anything she deemed "unnatural" yet she herself has breast implants. Not here to judge her for that, but she was there to judge everyone else about it. She got called out SO much about it (because of how very rare it is for someone so, so thin to have breasts her size), she then admitted she got breast implants but claimed it was for health reasons. This isn't about the implants, this is about her dishonesty and hypocrisy. It's also just bizarre, she values being thin above pretty much anything. And any time someone loses weight or is thin that doesn't do exactly what she promotes, she baselessly claims they're lying (they have an eating disorder, they're on steroids, etc). I mean, this woman, Leah, came after Jenna Marbles. Possibly the most beloved creator on all of KZbin. Yet she accuses other people of using HER name for views??? She built her entire career not just using other creators for views but being cruel in doing so. She also called Abbey Sharp fat. Which is obviously insane. She insinuated Jenna Marbles was overweight, as well.

[@JennRighter]

I'm harping on the breast implants because she got views, sold books and diet plans, by telling people they could have a body like hers if they paid her. She was an over-exerciser at the time, claiming someone could be as slim as her with no exercise. Despite her videos that showed her biking DOZENS of miles a day and doing squats while she made her smoothies. She lied about how much she was eating, she lied about how much she was exercising and she lied about having body modifying surgery in order to make money selling shit. It's not right.

[@JennRighter]

I will not criticize her appearance; she is pretty, although it's hard to see that because she's such a mean and judgmental person. I want to also reiterate, anyone's choice to have cosmetic surgery is theirs and it's not my place to comment on it-UNLESS someone is selling products or promoting diets or workouts to get their body without disclosing they've had cosmetic surgery to get their body.

[@ponchini8854]

She used Botox as well ( her choice, no problem with that). She just shouldn't tell her viewers, she got the look only because of her diet.

[@katerrinah5442]

Breast implants.... For health... Huh????

[@whatspoppin11326]

Great points all around and so respectful while mentioning them, like yeah the breast implants aren’t the problem it’s the hypocritical jerk that is

[@whitalleys5893]

There was a moment where the two bouncing Freelee’s synched up. Oh God, I hope that wasn’t a harbinger of bad news.

[@bellajaid]

"It's a shame to mock, bully, instead of bring anything of substance"... after spending god knows how long accusing you of using steroids 🤣

[@ohjonash]

I find it really funny that she tries to call out John for taking content and laughing all the way through it to make money - she does the same thing!!! And even worse, she promotes a diet that she created and recipes she created... to make money!!!!! Touts testimonials as more powerful than scientific evidence. Cannot stand her.

[@GraceMinnickSLAMS]

🙌🏻this

[@adriana12995]

She literally makes a living criticizing other people’s videos and their diet... she is insane. I guess she’s the only one allowed to make commentary/reaction videos....

[@ZEN-qb1lu]

She is the queen of projection

[@mara_veena]

I hate seeing this woman try to drag John’s name through the mud. It’s so infuriating

[@manifestingyourdreamlife]

He basically is dragging his own name 😂

[@neen42]

She is unhinged. Most vegans think she's unhinged as well.

[@maeve.starlight]

You should read the comments in her video. You can tell they're highly monitored, like every single comment is something bad about John. It's infuriating.

[@xosecox12]

@@maeve.starlight yeah, she deletes and deactivates comments all the time. She can dish it but not take it

[@mimistardust3915]

Ummm can I just say.. The pfp is _gorgeous_ holy- k I'm done simping 😂

[@johannadittert611]

So this is John roastin Freelee roasting John roastin Freelee? It feels like watching four Videos in one.

[@gekkoberry371]

"no im not" "no im not" "no i dont" i laughed too much at this 😂 god freelee is so full of herself

[@leeretaschen231]

Oh god. Just ignore Freelee. She’s a lunatic.

[@TheAdrift]

See, around 24:30-ish-that’s what she’s not getting. There is NOTHING wrong with advertising your own merch on your own channel, but it’s all about context. The way she’s framing her book is “unless you buy MY book and follow MY protocols and be EXACTLY LIKE ME, you will be doomed to be UNHEALTHY, and an EVIL PERSON who eats an EVIL diet that’s EVILLLL.” And she also says this like three or four times in the video John reacted to-they sre highly intrusive ad-reads. The way John advertises his merch, whenever he does so, is usually just like “hey, we launched a new thing, go check it out! Listen to my podcast if you like my videos. We updated our logo, what do y’all think?” And he doesn’t often interrupt the flow of the video to do a super$intrusive ad read-it’s at the beginning, and/or at the end, or whenever the merch comes up in conversation. I’ll be honest, I didn’t even realize John had a book until she mentioned it 😅 so there you go, Freelee gave you free advertising!

[@Lemontree816]

I didn't know he had a book either! I was wha.....? Keep being awesome

[@aishareed5252]

😂🤔

[@ysejj]

Yeah, it’s the difference between... “I’m making a video about how to help you, and all the solutions just happen to be in my book” and “I’m selling this book, here’s how it can help you”. It might be a subtle difference, but one is manipulative and one is transparent.

[@alycenx]

Lol because freelee knows “science.” All she knows is disordered eating. She makes us real vegans look crazy.

[@crazee4590]

As a vegan, we do not claim her

[@Zzz-cm5kw]

@@crazee4590 I'd personally happily send her and the other raw vegan youtube nutters on a small island to live their fantasies and leave us alone

[@crazee4590]

@@Zzz-cm5kw there could be a reality show made about it

[@alycenx]

@Angry Hippo I’ve been been vegan for four and a half years and the amount of questions that start with ‘oh like so you only eat fruit” or “like the banana girl” is ridiculous.” Since going vegan I’ve neither gained nor lost weight (I did not have to) you can just like ... eat normally...

[@aishareed5252]

alycen, what's a real vegan?

[@sberk67]

Hahah omg this video! I can’t stand her. I literally died when she called you “a lost frugivore” sounds like you need to follow the path of banana peels to find your way John

[@ankitasabarr5841]

😂😂😂

[@mennalewaa7749]

I would love to thank freelee so much for ruining my relationship with food she is really helping people❤

[@J.B.0815]

And for my high blood pressure that I got while listening to her. Freelee is truly a gift for us peasants. ❤

[@LDF1218]

She did say that she ate 30 bananas a day. Way to gaslight.

[@estherrodriguez2054]

www.hrw.org/news/2002/04/24/ecuador-widespread-labor-abuse-banana-plantations And she claims to be ethically eating. Bananas are like the least ethical food to eat.

[@hannahc3317]

@@estherrodriguez2054 the chocolate industry isn't the most ethical either.

[@leainasfs5016]

Her bouncing up and down in 2x speed is just driving me crazy

[@Cardioqueenmom]

Her on that damn yoga ball at 2x speed is torture to watch 😂

[@mommabear6054]

Lol. "Freelee the gaslighting girl" John you're an American treasure.

[@ZEN-qb1lu]

Freekee has literally herself said many many times that she will only react to channels with a large subscriber base in order to reach more people and gain views 😂😂😂 Such a massive hypocrite

[@AvionHanleyThatOneCoverGirl]

I find it very disturbing for freelee to request medical documentation

[@DreamDear]

Im glad I’m not the only one. She acts as though she’s entitled to his medical records or something. It’s so creepy

[@essiekins1673]

This whole video should have just been about Freelee's mental issues and how she tried to fool people into thinking she wasn't having a mental breakdown and faking a whole 'jungle life'. Even her ex opened up about her being really far gone and him not being bale to handle her disorder any longer. She's an A list train wreck that one. Don't entertain her again. She belongs in the pre-2016 nut house of YT.

[@adriana12995]

@Jay K they deserved each other tbh

[@theshunnedBandersnatch]

@Jay K Yes - Durianrider! He did a video on Greg Doucette a while back and it was so bizarre 😭😂

[@sonjadover2715]

@@theshunnedBandersnatch omg I know, he was really really odd in that vid. I remember when he and freelee were on The J&J podcast. He was an absolute loon.

[@qualcunoacaso6733]

Wym she faked it?

[@josie3221]

To be fair, I wouldn’t trust durian rider either

[@miiumaonu]

Even if he was on testosterone, that doesn't mean he can't call her out on what seems like an eating disorder in the making. It's a weak argument.

[@RandomGrump]

It scared me a little to see two Freelees bouncing at the same time 😳 like, “oh sh**!! There’s two of them!!”

[@DeadLkeMe]

Read this before I saw it ....... Still definitely choked on my water laughing

[@kariemelje8468]

For every ONE person who has claimed Freelee’s ‘frugivore program’, there are 5 more who have stated it doesn’t.

[@productionXerror]

The way she talks about "knowing" that John is on steroids says so much about the way she approaches "facts" in general. Like half of what she says is just her going "it's obvious that ...blahblahblah" the same applies when she said that she knew EXACTLY that/ how he and Abby talked about her...She bases so much of her argument against what he's saying on a mere speculation. Like she's basing her speculations on OTHER SPECULATIONS, at that point it just becomes fiction! She is honestly so delusional and thinks that anything she thinks of as fact automatically becomes one. But honestly?! that explains absolutely everything about her.

[@kennytheawkwarddonut9137]

I mentioned this in another comment, but she reminds me of like an anti-vaxer, flat-earther, science denier, who submits their own alternatives as facts (without any actual science or facts).

[@nicoleaideth]

👏🏼yess

[@stewartsquires8882]

She claims her diet is for health and the ‘animals’ -you should clip together every time she references herself as SKINNY-LEAN,Shows her stomach-does a full body twirl-says she’s not fat-has a perfect body etc there should be 100 + times-

[@xosecox12]

Yep. Plus she STILL criticizes other vegans for eating freaking cooked food for breakfast. Sorry I live in new England and oatmeal is more appealing when it's -10 degrees than a smoothie bowl. I guess I'm not doing good enough for the animals by eating oatmeal

[@Lemontree816]

John, please don't feed the trolls. Edit: In particular the blood test. You don't need need it, we don't need it, it only feeds the trolls. **Edit: Abso'fruitly!!

[@rebeccaspratling2865]

It's entertaining though lol. Yes, he didn't have to respond but doing so has given us the greatest entertainment. 😂

[@diva6148]

What she won't tell you: 1/2 of a banana equals 110 calories So 220 calories is 1 banana. Eating 10 bananas is 80% of my calculated caloric intake daily. (According to myfitnesspal my intake is 2386 daily.) Also.. I'm diabetic. How does being a frugavore work for a diabetic?

[@sarabird7922]

FYI - the last thing John pushed was a charity fundraising event that helps children in Hawaii know and understand nutrition and fitness in a safe environment. He didn't get any profits from that.

[@haliwebb-shafer2056]

her whole argument is "we're frugivores, if you do the research you'll realize that you are meant to eat that way" okay so show....the research...maybe? Like what's the science that backs this up?

[@gablison]

But she did show her research from 18:26-19:44, what more do you need?

[@qualcunoacaso6733]

I’ve watched fl for a long time, I can sum it up for you: 1. We have very long intestines, carnivores are very short. This supposedly show our need for food with high fibre content 2. Our teeth are not meant to tear through animal flesh, try comparing them to the ones of a real carnivore 3. We aren’t meant to survive off raw meat, like carnivores do (see salmonella and other diseases, plus adverse side effects of a diet high in animal products such as cholesterol and diabetes) 4. We aren’t natural hunters (can only hunt with devices we’ve evolved to invent, try killing a cow with your bare hands), but we can easily pick fruits 5. Fruit (at least good quality fruits, not the flavourless stuff in our supermarkets today) tastes awesome to us naturally. Maybe not everyone likes every fruit but we all can find a lot of fruits we love plus there’s many more kinds that have gone basically lost. There’s more points too but I’ve typed enough lol. Feel free to get back to me

[@haliwebb-shafer2056]

@@gablison but it's the tiniest bit, and also she makes a ton of other ridiculously bold claims to be saying "do your research cause I'm right" over and over again. She's not backing anything up with much science, she's just saying "this is what its meant to be and this is the truth"

[@LinneAzalea]

@@qualcunoacaso6733 1, So no one has said that humans are carnivores, we’re *omnivores*. Meaning we (just like other primates) are able to live off of both plants and meat. Your (or maybe it’s freelee’s) argument here would only have been relevant if the assumption was that we were carnivores, because then yes, our long intestines are too long. But since we are (for a fact) omnivores, we have longer intestines to be able to break plants down *too*. 2, Out teeth ARE made for it. You (or maybe it was just freelee’s info you copied) confuse it with carnivores that use their teeth to KILL their pray. Their teeth look different because their teeth (fangs for example) are their weapons/tools. Like what else is a wolf or a shark supposed to use but their teeth? Our teeth are perfectly made to EAT meat however. Also again, of course we’re not “real carnivores” since we are not, in fact, carnivores at all. We’re omnivores. 3, Again, we’re not carnivores, but omnivores. Our stomach acid is actually quite good at breaking down diseases so I’m not entirely sure where that idea is coming from. We can eat raw meat, it’s even popular dishes in many countries (including my own). But I also want to point out something extremely crucial here - the earliest definitive evidence of control of fire, was about more than 1.5 MILLION years before the first human (homo sapiens) existed. So human ancestors used fire for at least a million years before we existed and it’s highly likely that the stomachs of the human ancestors some 2 million years ago were different from the ones we have. Since human ancestors learned how to use fire and cook meat, humans’ stomachs evolved to what we have today. Simple evolution, right? Also, all evidence about diabetes points toward high sugar intake, so refined sugar is the villain there, not meat. High cholesterol is being debated, especially since there is a good cholesterol and a bad cholesterol. But yes, there is a link to the bad cholesterol and a high intake of red meat and animal fats. However fatty fishes (like salmon) are absolutely amazing for the good cholesterol, so that if anything would be an argument against veganism, no? 😉 4, See point number 3. Us humans have evolved for millions of years, the modern human (homo sapiens) is only about 300 000 years old. The human ancestors could once upon a time hunt without tools too. That’s most likely before we were completely erect. Humans evolved to the point where we aren’t covered in fur anymore too, does that mean that we should go around naked? We left the continent of Africa a long time ago and besides from a rather small strip around the equator, we wouldn’t be able to survive without clothes. There was snow in the Sahara desert just a week ago, what then? Just die? Our brains evolved and with our brains our tools for surviving evolved too. They are necessary for us to survive. You can see the same in nature, with for example hermit crabs. They also evolved to need a tool to survive. And if you add building nests there are few animals that can survive entirely without tools. 5, ok well, this isn’t really an argument against humans eating meat though. Fruits are awesome and especially the ripe ones you pick from the tree and I’m sure everyone can find a fruit that they like! ☺️

[@sugarmackb]

@@qualcunoacaso6733 this is evidence against us being carnivores but if you just look at our teeth you’ll see we are actually meant to be eating as omnivores. The way our teeth are designed SHOWS that we are designed to be able to eat meat and veg\fruit

[@deliciouslyodd1966]

She’s like the vegan version of Westboro Baptist Church

[@amanda121905]

Best comment.

[@pstizz23]

Exactly!!!

[@LinneAzalea]

That actually makes so much sense 😩

[@MajesticTeaRex]

John’s petty level is the best!

[@cathchapo]

"We should go to a fruit place and eat coconuts together..." I'm laughing so much right now xD

[@MetteBang]

She's like a religous extremist. You can't argue with them on a sober way. They are allways my way or no way.

[@asherrfacee]

10:22 She's distancing from her defining project "30bananasaday DOT com" that she had been promoting since 2007 until recently when she has took it down now since she replaced it with her new website. 13:57 her argument is that you can't criticize her for trying to make money if you also make money - especially if you think her diet advice is unsustainable or harmful (like saying fructose can't make you fat if it's in a fruit). 18:40 using teeth as evidence that humans are frugivores doesn't hold up. They find the one animal that has teeth like humans and eats fruit and claim humans are frugivores. Compare human teeth to other frugivores; look at the teeth of a Fruit Bat or the teeth of a Maned Wolf, both of which are frugivores. Do all carnivores have the same teeth? A hedge hog is a carnivore but it's teeth look exactly like the teeth of a fruit bat, so should a hedge hog actually be a frugivore too or does that mean the fruit bad is a carnivore? 19:00 "Human's have a frugivore digestive system" this is basically the same as above it's just cherry picking one example of a frugivore that is similar to human (i.e. the orangutan) and claiming humans are therefore frugivore. Also claiming all animals of X diet have colon X times the length of their body doesn't hold up because it is cherry picked and breaks down immediately when you find other examples. 39:20 I doubt she actually thinks John is on ped's, she's just baiting him to take a blood test because it's a win-win for her: if his blood test isn't as good as her's she'd say it's proof his diet is worse, if it is good then "who cares" cause her's is already good and there isn't really a "better" when you're in the healthy range already for everything. 36:44 When she talks about others she is just "speaking the truth" but when people talk about her they are "attacking her for views". 39:42 I know plenty of people who eat meat and have never or just choose not to drink coffee, is that because their diet is also not deficient by her logic as well? 40:27 "calorically-deficient" = bad, her diet is better cause you can eat unlimited calories and lose weight magically. 41:30 I'm calling John "the lost frugivore" from now on 48:13 I disagree with John, standing up to a bully does not also make you a bully. btw I haven't eaten meat in over 5 years

[@blackarchon8778]

That graph showed more than teeth though

[@asherrfacee]

@@blackarchon8778 yes true, the other big one I see talked about is digestion track length, but there are other comparisons on there as well. I’m not saying it’s wrong, I’m just saying it isn’t proof to just compare humans to one example of a frugivore (the orangutan) and then claim that we are therefore also frugivore, because if you compare humans to literally any other frugivore then you find those assumptions fail. Looking at historical fossil records from human evolution I think is a better indication and those would indicate starch and other cooked food has been a crucial element of human diet from our earliest records.

[@gothgirlatheart3545]

Your amazing!

[@ErikaIsOdd]

My favorite thing about this is she shows old clips of you from literally years ago so we can tell you have actually put on muscle in a natural and normal amount of time thanks for proving johns natural freelee 😂

[@queenwizzard1853]

The fact that’s she’s showing subscribers DMs is WEIRD.

[@user-se2nq6vo6j]

It is not. It us not weird to show that people were helped

[@queenwizzard1853]

@@user-se2nq6vo6j no the DMs of people gossiping about obese to beast. It’s weird.

[@kellyperez658]

She makes me feel very uncomfortable...I wish she would wear a full shirt. They all seem to have shrunk in the wash.

[@maggiep6605]

Lol, the irony of her accusing you of ignoring testimonials when she has a history of tearing down and bullying people who gave testimonials of bad experiences with her program.

[@MajesticTeaRex]

Freelee: omg you sold stuff Also Freelee: omg but my book And yes John you do look great.

[@AW-pt8bx]

Freelee is just the worst. She literally has no redeeming qualities.

[@arianagarneri2322]

It’s so weird to see this lady bounce up and down side by side specially when it’s at a faster speed 😂😂🤣

[@RacerX780]

I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought it was weird that she was doing that.

[@SaltySirenFloriduh]

I was thinking the same thing😂the sped up voice makes it even weirder.

[@Smacy]

Lol someone needs to make a video of a bunch of Freelee’s bouncing side by side 😂😂😂

[@Kieranp96]

It triggered me so much.

[@aloeleaf]

@@Kieranp96 it didnt trigger you.

[@gabrielleg5554]

The hypocrisy in this woman is astounding.... I just found John recently and he is one of the kindest and open male KZbinrs that I watch. She complained about him "framing" her, and then she literally accused him of "juicing, and I don't mean fruit" with zero evidence or backing... That really irritated me. I get she's doing it to get a rise out of him, but that is very unkind. But like people say in the world of gaming, the highest complement is when someone accuses you of hacking.

[@o0MsSpecialKay0o]

If John takes testosterone then she eats sausage sandwiches.

[@nataliekurek3469]

I use to watch freelee in high school, and it made me gain 20lbs

[@shelbylynn6596]

me to I tried high carb vegan and it was okay for me because I was running cross country so I was running so much. I was diagnosed with fibromyalgia and had to stop running, I gained about 80lbs after because I also had a binge eating disorder but now I eat a pretty balanced diet I eat mostly plant based with some sea food added because its abundant in my area, but when I was in high school she was extremely persuasive.

[@andreaberryman5354]

WAY too much fructose.

[@onetwothreeemelie]

yep when I followed the HCLF diet i would binge every night and feel so awful about myself cause I couldn’t follow it correctly now I have a pretty good relationship with food!