Missouri Mother, Daughter Killed Family Members with Anti-Freeze

[@SpinSatx]

Kills husband... Kills son months later... Attempts to kill daughter months after son... "I'm not a perpetual killer"... uh yeah, you are... you are actually the definition of that.

[@artiquawiley2847]

Exactly!

[@PistolManiac100]

I hope this bitch suffers.

[@kasibabi6901]

And was planning on killing the youngest

[@sydneyshore8083]

Her mental state is that of pure psychopathy. She’ll try again in prison

[@diegoog3654]

"I am not responsible for my actions! It's more than likely their own fault" -Female Logic

[@jaydendrowns9056]

You know the mother is guilty when she says "not anymore" when asked the question "do you have a son" my mother died three years ago and I would NEVER say "not anymore"

[@itsjustnopinionok]

Yeah, i'd say that about an object i sold or gave away, like a tv or car. Not my child or family member. That never changes in life or death.

[@UrbanDecayLova247]

BIG RED FLAG

[@tricebx718]

My brother died in 1998 and when asked I still mention him as a sibling just add that he died

[@skoo6588]

jayden Drowns same ❤️

[@3ges305]

Well my father died 8 years ago and I can say I don't have a dad anymore

[@Weeeewriter]

*It would have been easier for the mother to just pack her things, with her favorite daughter and just leave. Taking someone's life because they're lazy or hate them, is beyond evil.*

[@dancingnature]

That mother was a narcissist. They’ll harm children and family they don’t like.

[@patrickhill1075]

I agree with you , just plain evil she was ,just like the woman in the Bruce willis movie the sixth sence the mother poisions the daughter it's sad and disgusting 👎

[@batmama739]

I meaaaaan, also efficient but that doesn’t make it right

[@greatstuff5865]

Maybe they are after the husband money. I was shocked when they said the daughter will get out at 65 ! What a waste of life. That is soooooo shocking

[@03-K64-Firefly]

I feel this way about Chris Watts. So disgusting.

[@Allthatwethink]

She said “he would throw things at the kids” like she’s concerned WOMAN YOU KILLED THE KIDS!!! smh

[@MIKEO96]

Lol

[@connielikens3415]

@Jose skool II qqqqqqq

[@gracebellamy586]

Have you heard the old saying "Like Father, like son." ? The son was 24, living at home, no job, not contributing in any way to the family, and likely just as abusive as his father. It is NO excuse for murder, but there is a lot more to this case than I think we know at the moment. She had to not only support that family, she likely was the one who had to do all the cooking and cleaning as well. Did you see how thin and worn out she looked? That body language? That is the body language and look of someone who has been in a super stressful situation over a very long term. I've seen women like this before, locked into an abusive marriage because of their love of the children and belief that divorce is somehow wrong, with husbands that don't even bother to do anything but selfishly pursue their own fun. The women are essentially single parents without the power to make decisions for the family, and with VERY bad examples of adulthood being set by their husbands. They have the same look.. thin, worn out, curled in on themselves, so exhausted they are no longer even able to dream of a respite to the stress. There is no excuse for murder. But there are extenuating circumstances that society can learn from, so we can try to help there be less murders in the future. At least, perhaps, we can learn from what went wrong and perhaps make our society a little better for those effected by similar circumstances.

[@goodolnonamee]

@@gracebellamy586 blahblahblah sure whatever ya say. If it was a man doing this I'm sure you wouldn't have bought any of the BS you bought from this woman.

[@gracebellamy586]

@@goodolnonamee You're wrong. Mental illness is something that needs to be addressed in this nation no matter the gender of the person afflicted. Like it said, this DOES NOT MAKE MURDER ACCEPTABLE but it IS something we need to learn from so we can help there be less of them. Just because you're some selfish old INCEL does not mean that everyone is as selfish and prejudiced as you are.

[@MissyO_o]

Going to church doesn’t make you a good person just like going to school doesn’t make you smart. 🙄

[@smileandlaughs]

But if you follow the teachings it will make you a good person and if you do your work in school it will make you smart. You can't just put in 0% effort and expect magical results.

[@theresag1969]

Going to school does make you smart because it teaches you the process of thinking. What it doesn't do is make you wise.

[@randylahey2242]

Lol that was an awful attempt to sound insightful....

[@randylahey2242]

@@MissyO_o education is a vitally important thing, it is the basis for every comfort around you. Even the phone you slap your ungrateful fingers on to type dumb comments.

[@srzyl894]

I don’t think that’s what she meant, I think she meant you can’t just go to school and magically become smart without putting in the effort

[@gorgeous3325]

Man, if this was just how moms reacted to lazy, messy, unhelpful kids, my life would've been _very_ short!!

[@melissab9639]

OtterBabs Everyone's life. . .

[@omarkaroush3723]

Right

[@mariomendoza6419]

My mom woulda just shot me fuck it

[@smileandlaughs]

You better watch out for it. She's coming for you.

[@smileandlaughs]

@だいOtaku how can you not be able to do laundry? All you do is throw your dirty clothes into the washing machine and press a button.

[@regansparks2191]

“Do u have a son” “No... not any more “ What mother is just going to act like her son doesn’t exist anymore?? Vile woman.

[@bev5943]

Regan Sparks right I was like whaaaat

[@thesmackdaddy9888]

Youd be surprised. Many of us have stories. The starting line in life is a jagged one. Be grateful.

[@KeptForJesus]

Regan Sparks Probably what she has to tell herself, to sleep at night.

[@98babyrere72]

Right that threw me off

[@mothermayi9545]

FFS people (referring to the commenters in this thread) I’m an atheist too but there’s no need to go around harassing and insulting people of faith. Some of you people give atheists a bad name. For the record OP and other (real) Christians and people of faith-not all atheists are assholes.

[@adannino1990]

Stories like these confirm that my relationship with God depends on what I do ,and not by going to church.

[@itzbandido1632]

I swear I'm going to start helping in my house.

[@melissaarmenta9737]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@LCbabyxO]

Itz' BaNdIDo 😂😂😂💀

[@jamesoncross7494]

LOL! I know, right?

[@ashleyp287]

Itz' BaNdIDo hahhahahahahahhaha hahaha best comment on here!!! Haha that's was awesome.

[@TwoCents]

Itz' BaNdIDo 😂😂😂😂😂

[@stephendean2896]

She only regrets being caught

[@thekornreeper]

Stephen Blackwell true

[@SkylerDawn1123]

Right? If she actually regretted it, she wouldn't have kept going after she killed her husband 🙄

[@darkdripzy1560]

Cause she smart

[@ButterflyQueene07]

Yeah, that's what I was thinking.

[@ButterflyQueene07]

Sky Or better yet, she wouldn't have killed her husband in the first place.

[@tracieday1914]

Just because your child dies you never stop thinking of them as your children. When the investigator asked if she had a son and she said no he died it was very telling.

[@rebeccaklipp9703]

She Said, no, not anymore. Wow! We lost a daughter but still count her as a child!

[@KeptForJesus]

tracie day Probably what she has to tell herself, to sleep at night.

[@islandgirl9479]

So sorry for your loss.

[@Florafauna564]

Yes it was

[@cassandraharris6005]

I buried both my girls I just feel like a mother without children ..... they died before birth I didn't kill them with antifreeze lol

[@cindyreinhart9552]

My youngest brother drank anti freeze. Suicide. He died a long and painful death. 13 days I watched him suffer. He was 27. This woman is a monster. I'm crying for her victims.

[@Mike-sp6tt]

I’m sorry

[@commonsense571]

My god I’m so sorry 🌹🌹🌹✨🕊

[@ExodusRae]

I’m so sorry, I couldn’t imagine how difficult that had to be for you

[@Aussiesteph]

I’m so so sorry my condolences to you and your family 😢

[@bbgigi3358]

I’m so sorry for your lost and your brother’s pain. At 15 I tried drinking towel bowl cleaner to do the same. I was on the couch in agony for days and no one even knew. I hope you’re doing well. I hope your brother finally got to experience peace.

[@xfrenchii]

Welp!.... i’m gonna go buy my wife some flowers and clean the house with my children!

[@ayaanrooble8215]

STOP Operation 😂😂😂

[@QuietTears]

Throw away the anti-freeze while you're at it, for good measure. 🤣

[@xfrenchii]

QuietTears 💀

[@decart2606]

Don't with children, use clothes.

[@monetward1835]

😂😂

[@Bri_beee]

Notice how when asked if she had a son, she said "no". A mom would say " yes, I do." Not "No, not anymore."

[@kristenjohnson4473]

Bri Lynnx I thought the same thing. Or a mom would've said "my son passed away". But no mom would say "no". That made me mad when she said that.

[@imabigfanofyours4425]

kristen johnson She doesn't....anymore.

[@snowflakeloving3535]

Clorox Bleach she will ALWAYS have a son. May not be here on earth but she will always have one.

[@jessekeesee1112]

Bri Lynnx sorry for your loss God bless

[@teremertz]

Bri Lynnx I thought the same thing. Once a mom, always a mom.

[@Janadu]

Sitting in church doesn't make you a Christian any more than sitting in a garage makes you a car

[@__sir7557]

mechanic not car.

[@Janadu]

​@@__sir7557 CAR......

[@Phaminator525]

What kind of dumb shit is this. Sitting in a church CAN make you a Christian if you adhere to their beliefs. But you can NEVER become a car no matter what you do in a garage.....

[@paige1751]

Exactly. My pastor even said that. He said @you can go to church and still be a bad person, you can go to church and still not be a Christain.” The only way to be a good person and Christain is by asking the savior to save you, and applying the teachings to your life.

[@domoisawsome123]

@@Tolpuddle581 I don't believe anyone asked.

[@ellybean5868]

Good Lord! This is unbelievable! To sit there so calm and relaxed. "I guess I'm not a very good mother". Ya think? If she is a nurse, it would be a good idea to check and see how many of her patients died mysteriously

[@edjackson4389]

True. If she will kill her own children nobody is safe. Nobody

[@ONYX_200]

Agreed ... She is maticulous

[@mademoisellerhapsody815]

Sometimes we are born to awful people. I'm so sorry for this family.

[@yasminemtf9036]

😢

[@kerryanne5486]

Mademoiselle Rhapsody I did 😭

[@SergeantExtreme]

+don wilson Dang it can be tough. My mother used to tell me the world would be better off without me, and that I should overdose on the iron tablets in the vitamin cabinet.

[@camvin575]

@@SergeantExtreme Oh wow thats tough.

[@oAgL214]

@@SergeantExtreme I truly hope that woman is no longer in your life and if you have kids, especially not in theirs.

[@thomaspiercy2696]

She was protecting the kids from the "abusive husband" by killing him and then one by one killing them too. That makes sense.

[@mbb--]

I was thinking the same thing. What a fucking moron she is

[@givmespace]

yh she was just killing things she didnt like.

[@sasuke65743]

like the ol' Norton Antivirus logic: we prevent viruses by blocking your net completely.

[@mrpatterson5723]

Be very careful of ppl and entities that talk too frequently about 'protecting' others. It is often how they externalize their own fears and justify atrocious behaviour.

[@transexualattentionseeking7509]

Say it with me! Women...

[@sophian9105]

The detective who interrogated her did a really good job. Wow. I can't believe he got a confession so easily.

[@thomaspayne6866]

Sophie N Trust me there’s no reason why he would need to try hard

[@mosesm6040]

He should have done a better job the first time around when her husband died. She was seen as innocent and treated as unblemished angel without investigations even when her son died within 40 days! A half-baked untrained cop could have done better if his sense of justice was impartial. Some people just earn the privilege of not being thoroughly questioned when crime occurs on their watch! This is why a lot of people complain about the justice system.

[@goodolnonamee]

@@mosesm6040 Do you think cops start an investigation every single time someone dies? The coroner ruled it as natural causes so the police weren't notified.

[@richardking1561]

IT was set up that way. The police detectives know exactly what they are doing. She will mouth off to them and not even realize it. Thats oblivious and stupid she (the mother) is.

[@KatDenton-sc4ho]

​@@mosesm6040 i think she just comes off as a more quiet innocent type, it's shocking

[@thechumbucket1248]

Get a divorce: No!! Kill him with antifreeze: Yes sir that’s just what I need

[@EB-gt1pq]

😂

[@moneyasusual]

When he asks if she has a son she says no. Every parent even if the child is dead would say yes they have a son

[@martinj9647]

Sasha Kearley ehh, I don't think that's totally true. Maybe they wouldn't answer "no"(that's probably her subconscious speaking) but I don't think many parents who lose children outright mention them for various reasons. I lost a brother years ago and honestly I think it'd be odd I my mom counted him when someone asked how many children she has or whatever. Rarely when people ask about my family do I say I have two brothers simply because I rather not dive into questions about it I don't feel like answering to strangers.

[@Ddanielgonzalez]

It’s no because she wanted him dead

[@DeborahWheeler6201]

My son was 29 when he was murdered 17 years ago. If people ask how many children I have, I tell them I had 3. To not include my son would be denying his life.

[@martinj9647]

@Chizzle Pickle Productions I get that, everyone is going to have a different way of addressing it to strangers, which is kind of my point. I mean technically what she said is equivalent to Q:"Do you have a son?" A:"I had a son but he passed away", which to me doesn't seem odd, some universal indicator of guilt, or a way to denounce his existence. To me someone using past tense over present(I.e. had vs have) is incredibly common when people die. Of course knowing she is guilty its easy to say that she answered that way because she killed him, or disowned him before killing him, etc. But to say "no parent would ever do ____" is simply ridiculous. Every brother, mother, grandfather, sister, father, and so on will have their own way of wrestling the grief and their own way to avoid fielding unwanted questions from strangers, the semantics contained within is really no way to gauge if they killed their loved one or not. People are all different. People all do and say different things. Some people are plain weird and do extremely strange things... None of that is an indicator of guilt.

[@ClippedByNiyahh]

Sasha Kearley i was thinking the same

[@kimikiminurface938]

She thought she was going to kill 5 immediate family members and not be suspected ? I’ve heard it said “ no one can hate you as much as someone who once loved you “..

[@shanghunter7697]

In my teens i remember my father saying, nothing hurts more than family members ? I didn't understand it then but 54 yrs later i sure do. Have a great summer kimkim inmyface ")

[@Aaron-is8yt]

@keecefly that's stereotyping an entire group of people. you could say that atheists are normally assholes to people whether you are religious or not

[@campbelldynasty5632]

Aaron Alexander religious people are more assholes

[@stevewinwood3674]

i heard a comedian say that someone that likes you won't hurt you, but someone that loves you might kill you.

[@ebo7310]

That part!

[@andressahoese7735]

If life was getting too overwhelming for her, wouldn’t be easier to walk out with the favorite daughter and leave the husband to care for the others??

[@roelinamackintosh5376]

Especially, because she was the breadwinner. It would be easy to walk out

[@amyahern8952]

Insurance money!

[@hardcorehunter9438]

Wouldn't be so easy when she has to pay for alimony since Shes the breadwinner.

[@nickv1008]

What would they gossip about her at church?

[@MiniM69]

Or her job

[@AP-ui7oi]

Just because she’s a “church goer” doesn’t mean she can’t be a maniac .

[@bikeshop2002]

i see them as the same thing

[@achannelmember2464]

@@bikeshop2002 do you believe the earth is flat?

[@flora7195]

It means she’s more likely to be

[@kevincito946]

Ok, now I see why people love dogs over other humans.

[@nicholemiles8847]

Your babymomma has me on speed dial (Love your name,but lol you don't have my baby momma on speed dial..we are lesbians😂,

[@nicholemiles8847]

Dog are more loyal and trustworthy.. humans are fucking insane. You never truly know a person. Ever. No matter how long you have been together, you have no idea what they would do in certain situations.

[@nourtaher86]

my dog tried to strangle me

[@charliesadie487]

Your babymomma has me on speed dial and cats 😸

[@lynncraig6151]

The Miles I totally agree with you. I have 2 dogs ....who are Trustworthy and loyal.

[@twigagawizard]

Breaks my heart what the surviving daughter had to go through :(

[@ghostwalk2446]

Batman- You are exactly what is wrong with the world. No respect or tolerance of anyone but yourself, uneducated, unintelligent, hateful, ignorant, pathetic, and prejudice. FYI- Batman is a white guy. Is he the one exception to your "Fuck Whitey" outlook?

[@ghostwalk2446]

Jason- I hear you on that, but the surviving daughter is crazy too. How the hell can you not be pissed at someone who kills your whole family? There's something seriously wrong there.

[@joeomalley2835]

Yeah, I wish all the best for her. Glad she totally dumped those two family members who are basically murderers.

[@Countryboy2206]

theres no 'basically' they are murderers

[@Casey_S]

Row Deo lol, your sentence is pretty fucking ironic 😂 "black are more connected with shootings" "don't make it racist"

[@JBELE051]

Lol. A freaking diary admitting to a crime, probably the easiest investigation of the century.

[@alvaroakatico9188]

star Eventually the mother would’ve implicated the daughter, but yes, that diary sealed the deal. What was the end game with this mom? ---Hey everyone, I killed my whole family and didn’t have to use any weapons--- The daughter helping her mom would’ve been the last one to go, and mom would remarried and begin the process all over again, but this time with an established household full of happy kids. Psychological gratification has to be a motive, or pretty close to it.

[@Willie-go6dc]

Jack Chris Watts was REALLY REALLY REALLY EASY too, Well that’s the Level of “Stupidity”

[@Wayniesgirl]

My heart just broke for Sarah. I pray for God's perfect healing in every way.

[@KidPersepolis]

So the cops finally questioned her after an anonymous tip and the third poisoning? Great police work.

[@jamiehammond7401]

KidPersepolis lolololololololololololololololol😂

[@야만적인-w7c]

i wonder who called the police..That person was a genius and observant.

[@CIARUNSITE]

Police are almost entirely helpless without public help. It's disgusting how much we pay them.

[@richardramirez3805]

Beater, get over yourself*

[@CIARUNSITE]

@@richardramirez3805 Get over the bullshit you were fed as a kid and realize our police are incompetent, out of control, and entirely unaccountable.

[@ZosiaSamosiaOo]

Come to think of it, if she had only killed her husband she would have gotten away with it!! Creepy stuff.

[@andrewpersaud4144]

Husband AND son she would have gotten away with.

[@alonzomartii]

The both male victim's.

[@noisytattoos5595]

ZosiaSamosiaOo she needed them all dead

[@elizabethharvey6041]

i feel like when someone asks a mother, do you have a son? even if the son is deceased, your first response wouldn't be "no... not anymore" like what

[@tkpinwny61]

Elizabeth Harvey, From personal experience you are correct. My brother died in July 2004. To this day when my 86 y/o mother is asked how many children she has, she replies "3 living". If she's asked more she states "One of my sons died". She has never disregarded Keith because he died. He will always be her son and my brother.

[@Kkatss]

I agree. I lost my brother three years ago. And my mom still cries when she sees a picture of him or even tries to talk about him.

[@Kkatss]

tkpinwny61 I'm sorry for your lost. And yes you are correct, that pain never really leaves a mother.

[@Jo-chilin]

Especially if they supposedly believe in god and go to church. They’d say that he’s in heaven or something.

[@missz339]

I agree with you

[@humdee648]

Crazy how the daughter that looks most like the "mother" is the one that helps with the murderers!

[@tanmtruong8262]

I should stop watching these sad cases.. makes me hate the world we live in

[@PeepingUkulele]

Grrr Grr it makes me fear the world we live in. KZbin has plenty of feel good videos too. Maybe balance it out...I know I need to now. Yikes

[@christiangasior4244]

Me too. If you surround yourself with negativity you will start to become a negative, unhappy person. It’s like the saying “you are what you eat”. It’s very important to surround yourself with positivity and to think positively. We all know horrible things happen, but nothing good happens from dwelling on them. Surround yourself with love and light and you will help the world by radiating love and light as well.

[@SegaDream131]

Love not the earth....

[@RamonaRayTodosSantosBCS]

Grrr Grr I used to be a nurse- and I started to think that all that existed was desató and disease- well it does but not every one and not at the same time- I quit and started to live- never looked back and am happier for it- look at "it's supernatural" once in a while- Sid Roth. He has a program on KZbin and it's usually uplifting-

[@itsjustnopinionok]

Its just the peolpe in the world you need to worry about.

[@luvbig41]

This is exactly why I don't eat potluck at work.

[@nordette]

luvbig41 fucking goddamn right!!! I say thanks but no thanks too all that shit!!

[@rebeccalavoy6655]

luvbig41 😂 and I thought germs were the only thing to be scared of

[@ilovesatan6673]

or drink a drink you left sitting out

[@elaine5737]

Not to mention all of the folks that let their cats walk on the kitchen counter.............that is why I won't eat at potlucks................

[@nordette]

Ugh god petting and feeding their dogs and then going right back to cooking 😷

[@queenhoneybee.7772]

She killed them because they never helped around the house! My God, neither did I when I was a kid!

[@eartianwerewolf]

Yeah I mean they did say she was the breadwinner and her two kids looked fairly grown to be living in the house, but damn :/ . Still.

[@gerbilpmc]

You should be grateful you’re still alive! lol

[@fiinvc9389]

They are both over 18

[@PolskiProdigy]

@@eartianwerewolf that's a reason to kill your own family?

[@JenLovesBenz]

@@PolskiProdigy no their just pointing out a reason to why a parent would be disappointed but normal parents would feel guilty that their grown kids are still living in their house messing up the house and not contributing at all.. Lol its kinda fucked to go and kill them..

[@Me97202]

The daughters diary entry was truly chilling.

[@nikeshajones2473]

Killing your family one by one, is this lady serious

[@noneyabiz6928]

Nikesha Jones she said she's not a killer that she's just stupid WTF are you kidding me

[@thomassmith2056]

stone cold sociopath

[@tessajohnson7418]

Nikesha Jones sick huh?😯😦💔💔💔💔

[@jewelnicole8613]

If you look this woman up on facebook, her last posts were asking for prayers for her daughter Sarah from being in the ICU - when it was her who put her there. It's chilling to scroll thru their profiles to see their "grieving" posts about their victims... these two are despicable! I'm glad the two youngest made it out alive!

[@MScrista24]

Jewel Nicole wow thats a good ideA, to look at these peoples facebooks, thanks

[@xlnuniex]

I’m gonna take a look at her Facebook page. I feel so bad for Sarah. She will never be the same, medically speaking. And mentally. Imagine what it must feel like to know your Mother and sister tried to kill you

[@smalltowngirlbigcityheart3724]

Jewel Nicole That is unreal- just unreal.

[@melissa2146]

I’m glad they got out of there too or there would be more deaths. If she didn’t like her marriage then she could have just left but she chose to kill instead. Sick

[@A45GMK]

If you go to the page of Rachel the daughter who knew of the plans.. people write that they miss her.. man thats really disgusting.

[@Opelteanit]

Mother is a narcissist, daughter is her mini me in her eyes. Really sad case. :(

[@anneteller3128]

She's past a narcissist. She's a psychopathic serial killer. Narcissists are like con artists, they will pathologically lie at every turn and manipulate beyond belief, but they have no interest in killing their victims. Psychopaths, on the other hand, do not feel remorse or guilt for their actions. They just as well kill you as to look at you. They are both in the same cluster called Cluster B personality disorders. Thus far there is no cure. All types of Cluster Bs are extremely ego centric, but can display an amazing amount of superficial charm when they have to. They have no interest in how other people feel. If you ever come upon one of these Cluster Bs which also includes Borderlines and Histrionics, don't walk, run fast as you can to the nearest exit and don't look back. If they don't destroy you physically, they will try and destroy you emotionally and mentally. The toll they will take on their families, children, you, and your family is not even fathomable.

[@KarisPigNose]

All psychopaths are narcissists, but not all narcissists are psychopaths, FYI.

[@lsadxmthcdphdayum2452]

I'm killing myself by eating 40 benadryl pills.

[@EvanSchatz]

@@lsadxmthcdphdayum2452 how'd that go?

[@lsadxmthcdphdayum2452]

@@jaykay1074 I didnt do it...

[@lorilazise1521]

Just when you think “this is the worst story I’ve watched” ....along comes this one! WTF?!

[@Mphajay]

How do you even bring up a conversation about killing other family members....so bizarre

[@theocrimby]

Divorce would have been easier-or just leave the state.

[@shimag1992]

She still would've been on the hook for alimony for her husband. Clearly she can't afford 2 residences. Not excusing her at all. But saying she couldn't afford to leave

[@freenchrist2935]

@@shimag1992 I'm SURE she has the REST of her life to think about HOW easier it was to just leave, then be where she's at now. Abuse shelters would of helped. After trying to kill 12 year old daughter, she definitely had something evil in her, then just battered wife syndrome.

[@BMarie774]

"Do you have a son as well?" "No, not anymore. He died". Um!!! He's still your son, alive or dead! You still have a son!!!

[@1977moonchild1]

Brianna Gordy I disagree with your comment. She had a son. He's dead so does not exist anymore.

[@BMarie774]

quacka 1003 Well that's a foolish statement to make. Someone certainly still exists after their death. Their existence isn't just wiped from..well..existence, simply because they are no longer living. If you come upon a dead deer, that deer doesn't exist? If someone is cremated, their ashes don't exist? My grandfather is still my grandfather, despite being deceased. He still created my mother, whom created me. That doesn't change because he died. Her son is still her son, despite being dead. Use your common sense a bit more here, bud.

[@svetakus5338]

quacka 1003 A loving mother will never say "no I don't have a son" even if he died.

[@1977moonchild1]

Brianna Gordy All depends on your point of view really.!! I had a pet rabbit. I had a dog like that many years ago. Past tense. When a loved one passes away, you say that you had a mum or a dad. But you don't anymore. They died unfortunately. They no longer exist. I had a sister, she died ten years ago. You don't have a sister anymore because she's dead.

[@JMSxx]

Brianna Gordy the person no longer exists once their dead. There are death certificates to prove that...

[@lockedin60]

Rage overwhelms people. Well mom gets to live with her rage. Daughter does get a chance to get out after 40+ years. When evil enters the mind and stays nothing is sacred, marriage, love of children.

[@yulyasevelova769]

I often wonder,why not leave a bad marriage, or any other tiresome relationship ?? Why resort to murder ?

[@lockedin60]

@Vic Mackey Sorry you had to go through that type of marriage. Ironically my ex wanted to get in touch with me. Part of the AA program. She apologized for making our marriage difficult. I thought it was good. I did not want it to end. But what was so difficult then is just a distant memory now. I have as much feelings for her as a candy wrapper. Been single now for 18 years. Trust is a big issue for me.

[@Indigodrought]

I like watching these kinds of stories makes me feel normal lol

[@veaudor]

LOL!

[@Ms.Royalty7743]

That's creepy.

[@ieieieieuekjejejejej453]

@dogs aren't dangerous r/woosh

[@ieieieieuekjejejejej453]

@dogs aren't dangerous oh fuck

[@diper911_]

This isn't the place to joke

[@veronicamamiful]

Narcissistic people don’t feel bad about anything! They don’t think they have done wrong.

[@ShitTalkerExtraordinaire]

veronicamamiful i was raised by 2. I’d rather they had killed me

[@lndingalle9605]

Yeah why aren't they in mental hospitals. Although it is possible that she's a victim of narcissist abuse. The father and kids could have been narcissistic. They drive you crazy and change you.

[@ShitTalkerExtraordinaire]

Lndin Galle because they don’t think anything is wrong... they don’t care who they hurt or how. They blame their victims and everyone else for any problems they may have. They live to blame and deflect

[@ShitTalkerExtraordinaire]

Lndin Galle oh sorry I can’t read all the comments I get worked up with this subject

[@christinespring2420]

@@lndingalle9605 11qkt0 nokZ à7

[@jessicalee9913]

I can only imagine what it was like being raised by that unloving monster. Sad

[@VonSolo5]

Well said.

[@tiffanyingram3444]

She probably fed up of being financially responsible for everything

[@bobshenix]

@@tiffanyingram3444 A lot of parents feel that way... they don't do what she did. Or anything even close to what she did.

[@georgek685]

I thank my Mum and Dad for being great parents! Good Lord

[@scottmarcal9682]

Sarah is a strong mugga fugga. She forgave her mother for trying to kill her but I never forgave mine for abandonment.

[@rushrush6754]

Saying that you forgave someone is actually quite different than forgiven them

[@smileitsjustagame2937]

Wow. People never cease to horrify me.

[@Paraplegicoctopus-jh3mn]

You had me at ''church-going organist'', lol. WTF happened to ''thou shall not kill''? Damn!

[@maxineperez4930]

The organs were probably too loud for her to hear the commandment "thou shalt not kill"

[@epickagraczka4841]

Maxine Perez 💀💀

[@maryhall1181]

Zyea...scary....what lies within what we think are safe people

[@paolitna28]

Its 2019! WHAT HAPPEND TO MARRIAGE BETWEEN MAN & WOMAN :(

[@Phaminator525]

I think she was just that big of a moron that she thought poisoning them wasn't "perpetual murder". Idk bro religious ppl justify anything

[@traceyarnaud8433]

The daughter who conspired with the mother looked like she was dying of anorexia, so in a way, she was a 4th victim.

[@llsspp]

Damn I thought my family was dysfunctional

[@rp7r54]

a lot of families are dysfunctional

[@cwickwitted]

They are, this family is outta the ballpark

[@bigboyrambo2009]

I feel for the girl who survived I hope the government help her.

[@datguy197]

Lol

[@EB-gt1pq]

Because the government is so helpful…

[@corpseisking5392]

@@EB-gt1pq Yeah, that's why they said they hope the government helps her. Sheesh

[@cletusspucklerstablejeaniu1059]

Yeah, don't ask the church for help. Preacher needs a new Jet!

[@Mf-yc1zz]

Don’t worry she’s a white girl gov will do that hahaah

[@ThePirateprincess23]

Seriously, what was it that made the mother think it was OK to poison her family? Sure we all have our moments, but poisoning members of the family is just one step too far.

[@Laz3rCat95]

Don't waste your time, he/she's one of those idiots who will bring politics into everything just to start an argument online.

[@NickanM]

ThePirateprincess23 *She could have taken her but and simply walk out, leaving the leechers to fend for themselves.*

[@ThePirateprincess23]

NickandM that definitely would have been a better idea. She wouldn't have been facing jail time if she just walked out.

[@michaelvialpando1194]

ThePirateprincess23 and I bet she is terrified of black folks and mexicans and muslims........

[@lorimav]

What probably happened is one or both of the mother's parents passed on the genetics for psychopathy/sociopath whether they had been psychopaths/sociopaths. With the genetic predisposition raised in a particular type of environment the mother developed sociopathy, a lack of affect and morals. Her brain did not develop normally with defects in the amygdala and prefrontal cortex. The same thing would have happened to the he murdering daughter. Bad + bad early environment= sociopath. She was a church organist not because she was religious and had any morals but because she wanted to convince others of her respectability in order to get what she wanted.

[@zanelemofikoe2374]

Omg I can’t imagine being that daughter, shame having to live while knowing that your mom tried killing you, moms are supposed to be filled with so much love, enough love for the world!!! 😭😭😭😭

[@vincentx915]

These people were not objects. This is a man who said "I do." and this is a boy who said "Mommy."

[@smarie923]

Ikr sooo 😢😢😢💔💔

[@nebula2294]

keecefly lol ur dumb

[@Scottae89]

Sometimes when your kids don’t contribute, a good idea is to tell them to get a job?? 🤷🏻‍♂️ just a thought

[@TrielaRhyfel]

My brother got a job and he liked the money and ditched school, so yeah, I'm not sure.

[@jamietodd9741]

How about if they are 18 tell them to get out?

[@WhitneyDahlin]

@@TrielaRhyfel you don't need school to be successful. My husband started working at an entry level job in a major car parts retailer and now he's one of the bosses. It took him less than 4 years to get where he is at and he was on salary as a store manager a year after he started working for the company. Work ethic is more important than a piece of paper. Too many people are tricked into thinking a college degree is necessary and end up in thousands and thousands of dollars worth of debt you can never get rid of. Not by declaring bankruptcy or even dying. If you die with an unpaid student loan your family members have to pay it back. Most university graduates don't even work in the field their degree is in. It's all about how hard you are willing to work.

[@TrielaRhyfel]

@@WhitneyDahlin depends on your field He is in programming so he does need school.

[@KeptForJesus]

scott wade Sometimes when your kids don’t contribute, look in the mirror and change how you raise them!

[@matthewbauer9313]

Still doesn't clean up her room. Some people never learn.

[@fffddd6975]

Matthew Bauer Lmaoo

[@sarahholland1375]

That made me spit my coffee out laughing! So deadpan.

[@predator2591]

X_X

[@Frankiieeghee1]

😂😂😂

[@jackiepolo3086]

😂😂😂💦💦💦 My thoughts exactly! You'd think she'd learn after a near death experience but noooo! Lol

[@elementz301]

Nobody thought it was suspicious when the dad and son just randomly had heart attacks at the same time

[@rebeccadrum8612]

God bless you sarah! I'm glad you survived. Brave woman , you are Sarah! Keep strong! Love from Norway.

[@sobersaber494]

That poor girl. I can't imagine having a parent whom you love unconditionally actually try to hurt you, let alone kill your own dad and brother. I hope she can find peace amidst the biggest betrayal of her life. Brave girl for defying all the odds.

[@HighFalutinTootin]

The daughter helped kill the other family members

[@michellewhelen3251]

@@HighFalutinTootin That was Rachael (Mommy's Favorite) not Sarah.

[@mdgsk824]

The dumbest thing about this they could've just break contact, leave, kick out the other children yet she/they decided it's best to kill them all one by one and for petty reasons too wtf

[@AprilSunshine]

exactly

[@eduardocarrochio6326]

but divorce is a sin

[@luipumaventura9051]

Chrissi they would'nt leave becAuse of that supportive ass Dad! always on their side.

[@ASmith-jn7kf]

I don't think she did this because she didn't believe in divorce, I think she just hated him and wanted him dead. As for her children, she couldn't just kick them out. She cares too much about what people think to divorce or kick them out. She should have seen a therapist.

[@ASmith-jn7kf]

E V yes she should have.

[@briancook5838]

“ A Church Going Organist . . . In The Middle Of The Bible Belt “ - - I’ve Heard Enough.

[@lizcrisalli907]

Always..right?!

[@RH-tv9hk]

Oh yeah all those church organists out there in the Bible Belt running around killing people.

[@devinfleming6675]

Don’t forget, she’s also a nurse. That’s a disturbing thought. Wonder if she harmed any patients?

[@chriswhite2151]

They want to make sure you know. Imagine if they were Muslims.... "A mosque attending mother, in the middle of the Muslim neighborhood....." Can't even imagine them saying thqt.

[@RepentfollowJesus]

Going to church doesn't make you a Christian. Lots if really bad people use church as a cover. If she were a true Christian she would never have done these things.

[@cottagegardener3725]

My heavens after everything that happened the house is still messy!

[@lorrieruff4402]

That coroner should be fired and investigated , poisoning by a coolant leaves crystals in the blood easily seen with a microscope. I just find it hard to believe he could miss it on two people. Wondering if the hospital missed it too for the daughter? Maybe that should be checked out.

[@ripperfisher182250]

When someone dies in an unsuspicious way there often isn't a thorough investigation. To test everyone's blood(especially considering how many tests you can conduct on blood for different trace poisons ECT ect), x-ray, ext. There's just too much to look at everything for everyone. So unfortunately some things might slip through the cracks.

[@PeepingUkulele]

Agreed. Two seemingly healthy individuals in one family dying not too far apart seems like it would immediately call for a thorough investigation.

[@whitehorse8558]

"I'm not a perpetual killer, just stupid." No, you're both.

[@Fcutdlady]

The mother sounds very cold talking about the death of her loved ones.

[@loveunderlaw]

"CHURCH-GOING" MEANS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING!!!

[@adrianaboga8361]

Got that right. Evil loves to go to church.

[@HumanimalChannel]

detective lost his faith right then

[@toluadek]

evil is present in church every Sunday service, worshipping there too, God save us.

[@roseannestrada5028]

Gotta go clean 🏃💨

[@aliciabea1598]

😂😂😂

[@aliciabea1598]

Thank god I have a maid who cleans

[@stephenbray9816]

I get distraught if my goldfish dies.

[@dougrogan379]

Stephen Bray did you check for anti freeze?

[@dougrogan379]

Frantz Felix did you give it anti freeze to finish it off?

[@dreasmom2789]

I dont even kill ants.

[@dougrogan379]

Kathryn Ellison do you weaken them first? With anti freeze?

[@meowismeify]

I don't even kill bugs. If I see one in the house, i just grab them with a paper or napkin and put them back outside. It's scary how some people can sleep at night after killing humans.

[@TedsHoldOver]

Needed some good vibes in my headset while doing a few chores. Set to "autoplay." Searched "Christmas miracles." 🥰 .... 20 minutes later the EVIL KZbin algorithm cues this lovely story for me. Nice move YT. Keep up the good work. 🙄

[@caligurl8770]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@abpanda1596]

"do you have a son?". "no I don't... Not anymore, he died" - mom in a matter - of- fact tone

[@kevink1575]

Her "favorite" looks just like her. Coincidence?

[@0xsergy]

Lol, I'm gonna guess the youngest sister looked like the father/son.

[@braid834]

She's my Favorite too

[@janiecechan2078]

@@braid834 ?

[@braid834]

@@janiecechan2078

[@SheepsLettuce]

@@braid834 oof

[@megalopolis2015]

I remember this case. May blessings and peace come to Sarah. I am glad she survived.

[@Jupiterwind]

"Do you have a son as well?" "No... not anymore, he died" Im speechless any mother would still consider having a son even if he died. To her was like done and dusted, moving on. Im in shock!😲

[@francismorin4190]

Always do a toxicology for poisoning

[@smileitsjustagame2937]

How did natural causes seem legit after the son died? I dont know how people didnt get more suspicious

[@Dansk55]

Bible belt... science is probably something not taken seriously there

[@snorgisborg2]

Yes exactly. Why was this not done?

[@nicholdsouza6482]

I would guard my two daughters with my life. Seriously what's wrong with this world. A mom killing her own children... Sad. Very sad...

[@alelidacanay2841]

these doctors and nurses turning into murderers have me slightly paranoid, I need to stop binge-watching

[@Nextraker]

Did they ever say who was the anonymous tipster?

[@PWinmusic]

How does the coroner miss that multiple times?

[@opal331]

P Win they moved, so it was two different police departments and two different coroner's offices. Neither had any idea about the other death.

[@compulsiverambler1352]

Unfortunately a lot of hospitals and coroners aren't as thorough when assessing people on certain medications and with certain conditions, like Shaun's epilepsy, because everything gets attributed to the known condition too hastily. The same with overweight middle aged American men, who as a group have sudden heart attacks at such a high rate that the cause of one might not be thoroughly investigated, just assumed to be CVD.

[@iBeFloe]

Doctors are supposed to do blood tests & the such. Also coroners are looking for things that doctors may have missed, but if it looks like a simple heart attack case it’d be hard to assume poisoning if they’re not seeing anything else wrong.0

[@melissacraig4839]

It wasn't multiple times. It was just twice with 2 different coroner's.

[@Hexighost]

unless they actually test for anti-freeze, it won't show up in a regular autopsy

[@RoninMilli]

"I'm a good God fearing Christian" Line does NOT work anymore

[@elizabethschreffler9182]

Such a tragedy. Bless the girl who was poisoned by her Mom and Sister. May God keep her Father and Brother in his Eternal Loving Embrace.

[@renszatrapp9639]

God did a very poor job of keeping them in his 'loving embrace.' The nonsensical platitudes Christians trot out are hilarious.

[@bikeshop2002]

@@renszatrapp9639 lmfao such a 'loving' god. it's so annoying that people use tragedy to promote their religious agenda

[@HaileyBabi]

This should be a movie, its so unbelievable .

[@ItalianaBella333]

Hailey Babi Right....Watch the Sixth Sense, now that I gave it away....

[@blomkillen]

A movie?... and why the sixth sense....wtf

[@heirfang2100]

Hailey Babi the unbelievables

[@MorganCPaige]

Hailey Babi as time goes one and my obsession with true crime grows I’ve noticed that it’s not the more gruesome or heartbreaking stories that draw me in most, it’s the bizarre. Bizarre just insane stuff that happens to normal average folks blows my mind, I get addicted to these stories. They are fascinating

[@isabellatlk]

Hailey Babi Yes it should. Horror movie material

[@Tater4200]

"will be elligable for parole when she turns....65" aahhhahahahaha

[@timhortonscoffee2306]

If the phrase “I’m a horrible mother” isn’t followed up with the phrase “nooo you’re not. C’mon.” Then you’re probably a monster.

[@tynolin8397]

But she is a horrible mother. She killed her kid and tried to kill her other. Along with killing the father of her kids. So fuck off she is a horrible mother, he’s not a monster, anyone who feels sorry for her is a monster.

[@accelmemory]

noelle veblen lol right?

[@georgiaoblak8165]

This is such a heartbreaking story. I'm glad Sarah survived and is doing well. I will never understand the depravity of the human mind, and the lack of remorse the "mom" and daughter felt. This is an awful story of hate and selfishness. I pray for Sarah's healing mentally and physically as well as spiritually

[@AndAbel-AOD]

Jeremiah 17: “The heart is more deceitful than all else And is desperately sick; Who can understand it?

[@steffyrae222]

"Do you have a son?" "No, not anymore" 🤬

[@dannyrichards6233]

Wow

[@marshamacmillan]

Why did they want to kill a 12 year old child? What could that little girl possibly have done for psycho mother to justify (to herself) killing a child the way she justified the murder and attempted murder of the other members of her family?

[@sharonrobinson4718]

A nurse and claims to be a Christian...yep she's crazy.

[@MsFunnybags]

That is the worst passive-aggressive behavior, ever, and divorce is worse than homicide.

[@Yaycee987]

The daughter who survived is so brave ❤

[@reynaencantadora1308]

Unbelievable! How can anyone do something so heinous like this? 😡

[@scottaznavourian4568]

'did u have a son too?' 'no not anymore' wtf?

[@aliya-chawala-shaikh2748]

Wolverine fan in L.A. not necessarily i loved my aunt but she passed away i dont go around saying yeah i have an aunt like no shes gone

[@jocharbonneau6361]

ALIYA- CHAWALA-SHAIKH I’m sorry for your loss, but losing an aunt and losing a child are very different.

[@jasmynwheeler3676]

Jo Charbonneau you don’t know that at all depends how close the family were could have been like a mother.

[@jocharbonneau6361]

jasmyn wheeler I didn’t say the pain was less. I said that they were extremely different.

[@jasmynwheeler3676]

Jo Charbonneau yes how do you know that, you’re not understanding my point

[@hardcorehunter9438]

The coroner/M.E should have knows the first death was due to the antifreeze from toxicology.

[@melissachartres3219]

why is that?

[@ashlynski]

i’d never forgive my mom if she tried to kill me, and successfully killed my dad and brother

[@kimyoung2002]

This is so saddening, how could you do that to your own kids???

[@jackstape598]

She took the, “I brought you into this world I can take you out of it” a little too far.

[@anasuleiman5628]

Shes a nurse? I would check the hospital and see how many patients mysteriously died under her care.