London 2012 Badminton: 8 Players Disqualified

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@df4196
@df4196 8 жыл бұрын
"second to only soccer and cricket" -- that would make badminton THIRD
@AH-be6bu
@AH-be6bu 7 жыл бұрын
Badminton is not even close to being the third most popular sport in the UK.
@emlrob337
@emlrob337 7 жыл бұрын
Adam Hodgkinson agreed, rugby alone has practically cult following over here, and we also get very wound up over Wimbledon when that comes around!
@internetenjoyer1044
@internetenjoyer1044 6 жыл бұрын
@@emlrob337 yeah, i thought uk news was bad. in america it seems they just make things up to sound more exciting.
@ngc-fo5te
@ngc-fo5te 5 жыл бұрын
@@emlrob337 A cult following in a few small towns. Rugby is dead in most of England and Scotland. Tiny crowds and small TV viewing figures.
@olivermccall9770
@olivermccall9770 3 жыл бұрын
@@emlrob337 Rugby is only popular in private schools, as is cricket. Football is all most people care about
@ssatriajati
@ssatriajati 3 жыл бұрын
And now 2021, Greysia Polii won the gold medal in Tokyo2020! What a revenge!
@rezafebrian4733
@rezafebrian4733 3 жыл бұрын
Wkwk
@koolk8077
@koolk8077 3 жыл бұрын
That doesn't hide her misdeed and bad intention in London
@rssyng
@rssyng 3 жыл бұрын
@@koolk8077 true
@ohno3464
@ohno3464 11 ай бұрын
Revenge? It was her own fault.
@cameron.denham
@cameron.denham 10 ай бұрын
The draw system was outrageous. BWf (Badminton World Federation) strongly advised the Olympic committee against it. It is not the athletes fault at all, they want to win. And were doing what made that easier. No other tournament apart from the 2012 Olympics has that system, and no other tournament does. @@koolk8077
@BaoSik
@BaoSik 8 жыл бұрын
unethical and unsportsmanlike? Yes. Cheating? Definitely not. The system is messed up
@howo357
@howo357 8 жыл бұрын
how's that unethical and unsportsmanlike? are 1500m runners all unsportsmanlike because they intentionally run slower. how dare they not to try giving their all to take the lead from the beginning.
@TheTradge
@TheTradge 8 жыл бұрын
+howo357 - Not the same thing, to run slower in a race you're not only conserving energy but being tactically astute, the difference here is that they're essentially "scared" of whom they may face in the next round, if they can't beat whomever they face they don't deserve a medal, simple as that!
@howo357
@howo357 8 жыл бұрын
+TheTradge so those runners are scared that they wouldnt have enough energy to beat others who have energy at the end? its exactly the same thing. the runners finish the first and second get gold and silver. the badminton teams finish in the finals get gold and silver. that's their tactic just like runners tactics during the run.
@michaelc2472
@michaelc2472 5 жыл бұрын
@@howo357 Hey Dumbo
@T00RNAD00
@T00RNAD00 4 жыл бұрын
@@howo357 I'm sorry but you lack common sense.. Your example is plain stupid. let us consider 1500m run, a "match" so that you can understand. Those runners are conserving their energy in the BEGINNING OF THE MATCH so the they can WIN at the end of the match. While here these kids were trying to LOSE A MATCH so that they get easier opponent in the NEXT MATCH.! You can't compare both the situations smart ass.!
@zeinmets3550
@zeinmets3550 3 жыл бұрын
And now one of them has won gold. What a redemption story
@DKtrek21
@DKtrek21 3 жыл бұрын
That's why in a tournament mode, it must be an elimination match everytime. That's a big incentive to win any match.
@thatskyguy1266
@thatskyguy1266 2 жыл бұрын
No, that is probably worse for those who actually have a chance
@DKtrek21
@DKtrek21 2 жыл бұрын
@@thatskyguy1266 They all have a chance since they qualified for Olympics. Upsets are inevitable so a top player must go all out everytime and not just because they have a better chance by throwing games
@briantravelman
@briantravelman 6 ай бұрын
Why not just hold the last two group stage matches simultaneously like in football?
@BenAgustian
@BenAgustian 8 жыл бұрын
The problem is the system, why we must win if we lose could get a medal
@TheVinPac
@TheVinPac 8 жыл бұрын
win the medal and lost their honor,respect,dignity and passion of the sport
@obitdula
@obitdula 6 жыл бұрын
Pac Dmx they train their asses their whole life for this 4 year only event olympic. Olympic medals mean everything to athletes. If the system is suck, 1 stupid mtch to get gold is nothing i'd say Badminton is not like swimming, you can join 8 meets and get at least 1 gold. In badminton, you lose 1 game, c u in 4 years bruh, if youre still qualified btw.
@xvdd1
@xvdd1 6 жыл бұрын
You think they train 4 years for this one event when in fact they earn their money and esteem from an international circuit off events the Olympics Is just a cherry on the cake of a career some players would not even miss it.
@joesr31
@joesr31 4 жыл бұрын
@@TheVinPac yeah and I'm sure the athletes who train their whole lives for that moment understand that but it is not their fault that they have to make a decision between winning and their passion/dignity for their spot. The committee who made those rules forced their hands, it was 100% their fault, not the athletes.
@NurayaHijab
@NurayaHijab 3 жыл бұрын
did I just read ''just a Cherry on the cake of career" thank God I'm not an athlete. But that part still sound so Rude to me, like you never get or care enough, how much olympic gold medal really means to any athlete in this world 🙈
@norbertherterich4750
@norbertherterich4750 10 ай бұрын
what kind of format gives you easier opponents, when you lose? the tourney organizers must have seriously fucked up to incentevise this
@thomasmckenzie4584
@thomasmckenzie4584 8 жыл бұрын
Do we ban pitchers for intentionally walking a hitter with runners on 2nd and 3rd? Do we ban a team when their qb takes a knee at the end of a game? Do we ban a team for intentionally fouling in basketball at the end of a game so they can get the ball back? These players are giving themselves the best chance to win the gold. If organizers don't want this happening, do a better job of seeding the players. These players didn't come to the olympics to lose, they just didn't want to play a tougher match in the second round. How does it make any sense that you play an easier match if you lose?
@margaretma8439
@margaretma8439 5 жыл бұрын
Davy Lau uh... maybe just come up with a new system where this kind of thing doesn’t happen?? The only way to make it fair is when people trying their hardest is to the best of their interest and this clearly was not. Would you work more hours if it meant you will actually get paid less? I don’t know if you’re just stupid or blind. You can’t be serious at blaming them. If you are then I don’t know what to say. It’s obviously the Olympic committee and the system that wronged all of these players from all of these countries and you have the audacity to stand on your high ground and say “uh just play your hardest”.
@masterq2.033
@masterq2.033 5 жыл бұрын
In each case you mention the acts are tactical in order to enhance the chance to win the match/game. In this case they were trying to loose the match. You can argue the point of them wanting to win the tournament so it's the same but there is a distinction. With the former if you succeed no loss gets recorded when all is done and said because you are aiming to win. Throwing a whole game is not tactical its dishonest.
@masterq2.033
@masterq2.033 5 жыл бұрын
@ Tj McKenzie , you are comparing international sports to American games. Generally different thing really. American sports are hugely tactical but not very sportsmanlike with professional fouling etcetra a part of the game. The code of ethics and conduct in many sports prohibits this. Each sport has its envelope and in this case they overstepped the boundries.
@abcddef2112
@abcddef2112 3 жыл бұрын
@@masterq2.033 But then BWF changed their system so they are admitting it is their fault for not foresawing this possibility.
@NurayaHijab
@NurayaHijab 3 жыл бұрын
Couldn't agree more. Don't just blame the athletes on this case. Especially when olympic only held once every 4 years. You have to be smart to get the gold medal.
@avarmauk
@avarmauk 8 жыл бұрын
The Round robin format is to blame, not the players.
@avarmauk
@avarmauk 8 жыл бұрын
Explain why.
@avarmauk
@avarmauk 8 жыл бұрын
***** Players want medals. That's what secures their longevity as a Olympic athlete, whether its funding or whether they get picked to play in the next games. Players fight to get 1% edge on their opponents wherever they can, this is a similar situation. I'm not saying it's not dishonorable to deliberately lose, of course it is. But they should avoid putting them in that situation in my opinion.
@avarmauk
@avarmauk 8 жыл бұрын
***** agreed
@rotyler2177
@rotyler2177 8 жыл бұрын
They were told halfway thru match... to play with 100% effort. They ignored official. Bye bye!
@TheVinPac
@TheVinPac 8 жыл бұрын
win the medal and lost their honor,respect,dignity,pride and passion of the sport
@Holbeinisscheisse
@Holbeinisscheisse 9 жыл бұрын
what they did was just clever, the problem is the system
@OtakuMainer
@OtakuMainer 8 жыл бұрын
or the people who are willing to exploit the system
@karaloca
@karaloca 6 жыл бұрын
Not too clever, they got kicked out
@SMSJSC
@SMSJSC 5 жыл бұрын
Clever? I don't think so. It was blatant. They didn't even try to hide it. They must have known what would happen, surely. This is the Olympics, not some Sunday league amateur game. They must have known they wouldn't get away with this.
@xboys10p
@xboys10p 3 жыл бұрын
@@SMSJSC it was a strategy, so it was smart actually. if you lose you can get better chance for higher medal, why did you still need to win at this round, right? hehe
@SMSJSC
@SMSJSC 2 жыл бұрын
@@xboys10p and how did that work out for them? "HeHe"
@domtoug
@domtoug 11 жыл бұрын
"Devotion is second only to soccer and cricket" Has the guy not heard of rugby? Tennis? Or, frankly, any other sport? Badminton probably wouldn't make the top ten sports in the UK...
@jimmie413-z8m
@jimmie413-z8m 3 жыл бұрын
Who cares about UK
@volodyanarchist
@volodyanarchist 2 жыл бұрын
Devotion is not popularity.
@UniteXRPL
@UniteXRPL 4 жыл бұрын
Why? What a terrible article. You didn’t even answer why they were tanking
@Mairou
@Mairou 11 жыл бұрын
I think it's the tournament organizers fault. In many other tournaments they have solved this problem by using different bracket system: If you win your bracket you will face the loser of the other bracket in the next round. That way you always benefit from winning.
@inazone222able
@inazone222able 7 жыл бұрын
They were doing what they were doing to win, nothing unethical about it. Olympics: "do this to win." Players: "ok" Olympic "your unethical to do what I just said you needed to do to win." Fucking horseshit!
@missconscience208
@missconscience208 11 жыл бұрын
ABC news didnt report a full story here. asian players threw up their game as a strategy. the rules go like this, for round 1, #1vs#2, #3vs#4, #5vs#6, #7vs#8. In semifinal, 1v3, 5v7. In the end, 1v5 for gold, 3v7 for bronze. The rule is utterly unfair to strong players no. 2, 3, 4...They actually do it all the time but never got disqualified before. Who benefits from this? the weaker european teams, that's why the gold medal match of 1vs5 is not as exciting as the semi-final where 1vs3.
@TheIGLOVE
@TheIGLOVE 4 жыл бұрын
WHat are you talkinga bout
@ucdcrush
@ucdcrush 12 жыл бұрын
Thank you. Finally some video of this..
@Cocoabon
@Cocoabon 3 жыл бұрын
And now olympic tokyo 2021, greysia polii wining gold medal
@suharjapbc619
@suharjapbc619 3 жыл бұрын
The worst history of Indonesia's badminton in Olympic.
@chrissghful
@chrissghful 12 жыл бұрын
"In Britain, every town has a club" HAHAHAHA good one. We also have tea on tap.
@jarguskm383
@jarguskm383 3 жыл бұрын
And, now she won gold medal...
@djokolegowo1258
@djokolegowo1258 3 жыл бұрын
I am an Indonesian citizen. First, what really happened to the team from our country in the All England 2021 tournament? is it true that the BWF has been discriminatory? WBF should be responsible about this matter...
@yudhabagaskara98
@yudhabagaskara98 3 жыл бұрын
Consider this is a payback
@Allawahguy
@Allawahguy 12 жыл бұрын
So to those criticising the badminton players, what have you got to say about the British cyclist who admitted to deliberately crashing in order to obtain a restart (after they got off to a bad start in the race)? They went on the win gold.
@roflcopter4388
@roflcopter4388 10 жыл бұрын
You can tell abc is biased. If you watch the entire recorded match, its pretty obvious that south korea started losing on purpose first. The the Chinese team followed them.
@imnoobish
@imnoobish 10 жыл бұрын
Get your eyes checked and watch it again.
@Person01234
@Person01234 9 жыл бұрын
+ROFLcopter I don't care who started it, whether it was china or korea that's a child's excuse. Just because somebody else starts doing something wrong doesn't mean you do too, especially after you've received a warning. That goes for both sides, whoever started it. It's right they all got disqualified.
@room2232
@room2232 7 жыл бұрын
abc is biased lol even it doesnt matter who started it, they both did it. But they barely mentioned the koreans
@cleudimarneto6149
@cleudimarneto6149 3 жыл бұрын
"Is considering giving them refunds" It's 2021, I bet they still havent gotten refunded.
@MrHelloBacon
@MrHelloBacon 12 жыл бұрын
"If we dont do it, the opponents will do it" Dont blame the players!
@lewiszim
@lewiszim 6 жыл бұрын
This is ridiculous. You create a format in an ultra competitive environment where there's an incentive to drop matchs, the players, naturally, try to maximize their winning chances by dropping a match, and then you cry foul and disqualify the players. It's your god damned fault. You should have created a better format.
@Swede1066
@Swede1066 12 жыл бұрын
Two reasons. First, it gives them a more favorable match-up during the eliminations rounds. The first rounds of play are round-robin and are not elimination. They were trying to set up a match that would benefit them in the following rounds. Second, it's not uncommon for athletes to "coast" during early rounds to save their strength and evergy for the elimination rounds so they can play better during at that time.
@yudhabagaskara98
@yudhabagaskara98 3 жыл бұрын
Here after their first gold medal
@room2232
@room2232 7 жыл бұрын
ofc they first blame the chinese and barely mentions the koreans
@LisaL.
@LisaL. 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting that the organisers plan for the top 2 seeds to play each other at the semi, rather than the final. I think this unusual draw is called the organisers trying to help their own country's weaker team to win a medal, and is not called cheating by UK standards! And when the 2nd seed finds a way to face the 1st seed at the final, is called match fixing. Damn you Asians are too smart, let me now disqualify you!
@TheTradge
@TheTradge 10 жыл бұрын
These players took the oath before the games began that they would perform to the best of their abilities, what they did is not only extremely disrespectful to both the sport and it's spectators, but it goes against everything the Olympic games stand for!
@chessdude1977
@chessdude1977 8 жыл бұрын
The only thing that matters at the Olympics is the Gold and this gives them the best chance, That's why it's mostly professionals now!
@TheTradge
@TheTradge 8 жыл бұрын
Lee DHendon Are you telling me you actually condone the behaviour of these players?!
@howo357
@howo357 8 жыл бұрын
oath? when and where? I oath is to give themselves the best chance to win and that's what these team did. if anything this is on IOC but as always they are never wrong. if 1500m runners take an oath that they would run their fastest and not strategically fall behind at the beginning, maybe all of them should be disqualified according to IOC rule, except for that dumb ass who likes to dash to the lead on first lap.
@TheTradge
@TheTradge 8 жыл бұрын
+howo357 - It also mentions "in the true spirit of sportsmanship, for the glory and honour of my team", and there is NO honour in trying to weasel their way into an easier draw for a subsequent round, not only that but it's also very poor sportsmanship to do so! Most importantly though, the people in the stadium for the most part will have paid good money and travelled a long way to be there, the fact that these "athletes" decided it was a good idea to play like wusses because they were "scared" of facing a particular opponent in the next round is extremely disrespectful to the fans and the sport! If you want to be the best you have to beat the best, and it's likely they would have run into these "scary opponents" during the tournament anyway!
@howo357
@howo357 8 жыл бұрын
+TheTradge again they strategically give themselves better chance to win gold. that's not unethical or dishonored. just answer this. are long distance runners dishonored? are cyclists from the same team help each other blocking other cyclists dishonored? the Chinese team threw the match so they don't have to face their own teammates, the other Chinese team, until final. they could have got both gold and silver but people like you equate smart strategy to being unethical. if I were a fan, I'd appreciate they use their brain to try their best to win. not just being a dumb ass.
@joesr31
@joesr31 4 жыл бұрын
The rules are stupid, the players are trying to win, but they are trying to win the tournament not the match. Don't blame the athletes who put their sweat and tears in training their entire life just be made to lose because of some stupid committee who do not have any common sense. If you reward losing, people are going to try to lose, simple as that, if they do not want that, then make it so that losing isn't beneficial to the players. No one likes to lose if they have a choice.
@bazvaldo67
@bazvaldo67 12 жыл бұрын
I'd like to see more tho! :o) It must have been hilarious...unless you bought a ticket to the game.
@zofg13
@zofg13 11 жыл бұрын
I swear the Chinese did it cos they didn't want to evade hard team, they did it so that both chinese team has a chance to get into the medals.
@notherntranceaddict181
@notherntranceaddict181 8 жыл бұрын
Second to only soccer and cricket lol. That's not true.
@baskybask6327
@baskybask6327 11 жыл бұрын
Except bunting is legal under baseball rules, while throwing a match is ILLEGAL UNDER BADMINTON RULES, and therefore cheating. I get that this distinction is pretty hard to grasp, but give it a go. Here's how it works: Illegal under rules? Cheating. Legal under rules? Not cheating.
@asmellywetbackfrommexshitc9013
@asmellywetbackfrommexshitc9013 10 жыл бұрын
Korea at it again .
@malasc12
@malasc12 5 жыл бұрын
Who's here watching this in 2019?
@yackawaytube
@yackawaytube 9 жыл бұрын
Haha... China is an expert at cheating... It got 2 Korean teams ejected and only 1 of its team ejected. Eventually, another Chinese team won the gold medal in this event!
@yackawaytube
@yackawaytube 8 жыл бұрын
vwazp Cheating is cheating. What I said stand. Korean teams thought they were so smart by copying what the Chinese teams did and ended up having both teams ejected. Who's smarter?
@vwazp
@vwazp 8 жыл бұрын
yackawaytube the point is the regulations is stupid. both teams were giving themselves a better chance at winning the whole tournament, not just a single match. By losing, they can get an easier team. That is in the spirit of the game. It's just retarded people who can't turn a corner in their thinking that are turning this into some "cheating" scandal.
@yackawaytube
@yackawaytube 8 жыл бұрын
vwazp Dude, I know the background. The format was stupid (it was changed to this stupid format in this Olympics). My point is China was very good to take advantage of the system and managed to get both teams of their arch-rival, South Korea, eliminated. How's that not expert in cheating???
@raider968
@raider968 8 жыл бұрын
The thing is, South Korea would not have been eliminated had they tried to play properly. They, too, were trying to throw the match away. Copying others is no excuse. So it wasn't China who got them kicked out; It was themselves.
@howo357
@howo357 8 жыл бұрын
+yackawaytube you can say China play dirty or taking advantage of the system. but cheating? if their strategy was to get both Korean teams out, I say kudos to them and one hell of gutsy and smart move. Korean teams still had to take the bait. and they did. I don't agree this is unsportsmanlike but whatever it was, Korean did it to themselves.
@dvwut
@dvwut 12 жыл бұрын
I love how because this is London 2012 Britain automatically get judged for anything that goes on during the games. China, South Korea and Indonesia are punished for match-fixing and somehow Britain are dragged into it? It's got nothing to do with Britain.
@Yurihyuga766
@Yurihyuga766 10 жыл бұрын
Yea good thing that is not allowed anymore. This is pathetic. They play without honor.
@cameron.denham
@cameron.denham 10 ай бұрын
The draw system was outrageous. BWf (Badminton World Federation) strongly advised the Olympic committee against it. It is not the athletes fault at all, they want to win. And were doing what made that easier. No other tournament apart from the 2012 Olympics has that system, and no other tournament does. One of the dqs ended up winning gold at Tokyo.
@thebigfatcat8711
@thebigfatcat8711 7 жыл бұрын
its not their problem if ur system is shit
@PlasmaMongoose
@PlasmaMongoose 12 жыл бұрын
Not sure what you mean by that in the context of what I posted before, all I said basically is that if you gonna throw a match, make sure it STILL LOOKS LIKE you're trying to win, otherwise it aint gonna work.
@KarateKidX
@KarateKidX 12 жыл бұрын
would you mind quoting the rule again or linking the official handbook?
@cribbo188
@cribbo188 12 жыл бұрын
the statement about every town in Britain having a club, and devotion is second only to soccer and cricket at 1:45 is just nonsense, most of us Brits like badminton purely because we get to say "shuttlecock"
@Gorbisch
@Gorbisch 12 жыл бұрын
Uh, actually, that isn't THAT bad. I'm not condoning cheating, but you just came up with eight people over the course of three and a half decades, in five different sports, and never twice in a row. I also find it hard to believe that the US media wouldn't report this kinda stuff, seeing as how we loooove gossip.
@sonuva2003
@sonuva2003 12 жыл бұрын
Isn't it sad that so many believe that their behaviour reflects on the sport instead of just them?
@joexu7439
@joexu7439 12 жыл бұрын
I appreciate her analysis.
@spookyscarytruestories
@spookyscarytruestories 12 жыл бұрын
Are you saying badminton isn't a sport?
@TerrorrLA
@TerrorrLA 12 жыл бұрын
"Many people in the US." How long did it take you to survey hundreds of thousands of Americans to figure that out?
@0llieftw
@0llieftw 12 жыл бұрын
are you kidding? Have you not watched a decent game of badminton before. It's one of the most physically demanding sports in the world.
@Dcabenthem
@Dcabenthem 12 жыл бұрын
This isn't fair, but there isn't a rule which makes it illegal. They shouldn't be disqualified.
@fishnyc22
@fishnyc22 12 жыл бұрын
Did she just refer to Badminton players as Elite Athletes? Seriously?
@TheLibrarianMarian
@TheLibrarianMarian 12 жыл бұрын
Um, I said that it was cowardly to lose on purpose because you don't want to go up against someone good. Are you being sarcastic?
@SlamHannigan
@SlamHannigan 12 жыл бұрын
This is just not in the spirit of the Olympics. This is pretty clearly intentionally throwing the match, no question. If you're in the Olympics, play like it.
@TheLibrarianMarian
@TheLibrarianMarian 12 жыл бұрын
The Chinese girl was great and deserved her gold, while these badminton players were absolutely in the wrong and deserved to be disqualified. There is a difference.
@turkeyonastick
@turkeyonastick 12 жыл бұрын
In the UK, "Badminton is second only to soccer and cricket"? Don't tell me reporters are allowed to make up wobbly facts like this and stick it in their news story? Jeez.
@aproclis
@aproclis 12 жыл бұрын
a new rule, if the athletes werent allowed to face their own country none of this wouldve happened
@spookyscarytruestories
@spookyscarytruestories 12 жыл бұрын
Badminton is as much as a sport as baseball, football, tennis, basketball, volleyball and so on. It's most definitely a sport
@TommyTBusiness
@TommyTBusiness 12 жыл бұрын
Why are you watching it?....
@thekamalwhf
@thekamalwhf 12 жыл бұрын
abc news has the most uploaded videos i have ever seen
@TheLibrarianMarian
@TheLibrarianMarian 12 жыл бұрын
It has nothing to do with race. The cyclist didn't break any rules, while the badminton players did.
@clingfilmlover
@clingfilmlover 6 жыл бұрын
And it was a pity on the Indonesians and South Koreans that were DQ'd, they only did it in reaction to the Chinese doing it in the first place
@TheLibrarianMarian
@TheLibrarianMarian 12 жыл бұрын
I'm not actually 100% on your perspective, because you're in this weird blind rage that's keeping you from forming full sentences. Calm down, don't stab anyone, you'll be okay. No one punched your mother or anything, you don't have to be so angry.
@neilkarlson4391
@neilkarlson4391 12 жыл бұрын
If that was an insult to the sport then I suggest you try it.
@cdv1qa
@cdv1qa 12 жыл бұрын
"In Britain, devotion is second only to soccer and cricket." This is simply not true. I am English and have lived in London all my life. There are many sports that are more popular than badminton. Tennis, Rugby, Rowing and Cycling to name but a few. Badminton is not a big sport over here.
@St33zYGh0sT
@St33zYGh0sT 12 жыл бұрын
And I will leave you with this. The referee came out and told them they would be ejected from the tournament if they continued to waste everyone's time. At that point, would you rather play your friends for a shot at the podium? Or would you rather not play at all and be the definition of poor sportsmanship?
@TheLibrarianMarian
@TheLibrarianMarian 12 жыл бұрын
Why did you copy-paste the same thing twice in a row? That's very silly and uncreative of you. You need seriously good reflexes to play badminton, though, it's incredibly fast-paced. Oh, and did you see how built that Lin guy was when he ripped off his shirt after he won?
@danegel
@danegel 8 жыл бұрын
What was wrong with that? They weren't breaking the rules, quality is subjective and so unenforceable.
@TheLibrarianMarian
@TheLibrarianMarian 12 жыл бұрын
If you don't care, why would you respond? You're acting very defensive.
@TruthsOFamwf
@TruthsOFamwf 12 жыл бұрын
Why do people get forgetting that their new rules allowed for this type of loophole
@TheLibrarianMarian
@TheLibrarianMarian 12 жыл бұрын
No, it was quoted directly from the official badminton rules, right from the Badminton World Federation. If things had changed, they wouldn't have been disqualified on that very charge -- “not using one’s best efforts to win a match” as well as “conducting oneself in a manner that is clearly abusive or detrimental to the sport.” That's straight from the officials, not me, so they clearly broke the rules.
@revcounselor
@revcounselor 12 жыл бұрын
Not sure what you're talking about, I made absolutely no mention of the 16 year old swimmer. I was referring to 2008 olympics when they had to give their gymnastic medal back because they were using underage competitors. Not to mention almost their entire long distant running team were barred because they tested positive for banned substances. The list goes on. Try fitting that into your head.
@TheLibrarianMarian
@TheLibrarianMarian 12 жыл бұрын
Sorry, but the teams that went through because of the disqualifications were Canada, Australia, South Africa and Russia. And in case you're bad at geography, only one of those countries is in Europe (and it's-- it's Russia, by the way-- also technically in Asia, so). I mean, honestly, at least do the research before you start accusing people in a blind rage.
@TheLibrarianMarian
@TheLibrarianMarian 12 жыл бұрын
but yeah, you shouldn't be so butthurt that you were proven wrong. you're just going to make everyone feel some serious second-hand embarrassment.
@CrabTastingMan
@CrabTastingMan 12 жыл бұрын
It is also foolish to think one has to like everything about something in order to want to watch it.
@znmo0nlight
@znmo0nlight 12 жыл бұрын
Back then the olympics were mainly for amateur athletes, not professionals.
@TheLibrarianMarian
@TheLibrarianMarian 12 жыл бұрын
By the way! "The most important thing in the Olympic Games is not winning but taking part; the essential thing in life is not conquering but fighting well." Pierre De Coubertin Founder of the modern Olympic Games
@newton2013
@newton2013 12 жыл бұрын
During Woman's swimming, the TV commentators congratulated one swimmer for "swimming slow enough" to get the lane she wanted in the next race. Soooo, what is the difference? Why is it congratulated when a swimmer does it?
@jaradoref
@jaradoref 11 жыл бұрын
Obviously these guys haven't come across the phrase that you have to beat the best to be the best.
@maplesandy
@maplesandy 12 жыл бұрын
It;s all in the tactics, one of them is to avoid playing against your own country in the finals in order to win a gold medal
@ashupashu5559
@ashupashu5559 4 ай бұрын
disqualification for playing like trash is the dumbest thing ive ever heard lmao
@TheLibrarianMarian
@TheLibrarianMarian 12 жыл бұрын
Also, if you go to 5.1, it says "In addition, if a player has at any time behaved in a manner severely damaging to the reputation of the sport, that player may be deemed by virtue of such behaviour to have engaged in conduct contrary to the integrity of the game of Badminton." If you take a look at all these people who are dissing badminton as "not being a sport", it's clearly made a bad impact on the sport's reputation, since this got a lot of publicity.
@Thunkful2
@Thunkful2 12 жыл бұрын
So you would blame a chess player for resigning an untenable position?
@TheLibrarianMarian
@TheLibrarianMarian 12 жыл бұрын
also, it's very racist to assume that ALL ASIANS WOULD NEVER CHEAT, though. i mean, you're honestly going to group together ye shiwen with these badminton players just because they're all from asia? they're not even all chinese, so that's a huge, inappropriate generalization. ye shiwen obviously didn't dope, or else it would have turned up and she would have been stripped of her gold already. these badminton players, meanwhile, broke their rule, and were disqualified. duh.
@zengzhibin23
@zengzhibin23 12 жыл бұрын
may I ask you kindly cut the crap and jump into the points? appreciated
@MaDahTh
@MaDahTh 12 жыл бұрын
It's a lack of sportsmanship, and it's abusing the system.
@emilyg224
@emilyg224 12 жыл бұрын
didnt realise this was a matter of "you" against "me", but i guess people get weird online. If "you" are so good at badminton, why are you so worried of playing a better opponent in the next round? if you are as amazing as you make out. just a point.
@chrispike60
@chrispike60 12 жыл бұрын
The use of foul language is the sign of a small mind.
@MaliqFariz
@MaliqFariz 8 жыл бұрын
"America's arch-rival the Chinese top seeds"... say what now? fine journalism right there!
@DRFUNTIME
@DRFUNTIME 7 жыл бұрын
ikr..America wasn't even a threat in the badminton world to begin with
@St33zYGh0sT
@St33zYGh0sT 12 жыл бұрын
No, your analogy was rather simple, it just wouldn't apply in our universe. There's no way you can compare a match of badminton to a test. They just aren't fucking similar enough. You said "deliberately failing, but still get an A+" which is a ridiculous assertion. Anyone who tries to "deliberately fail" a test is not going to get an A+. People who study hard, but not too hard, will get better grades. Bombing a match of badminton to stack your teams in the olympics just shows poor sportsmanship.
@SlamHannigan
@SlamHannigan 12 жыл бұрын
What in the world does that even mean?
@TheLibrarianMarian
@TheLibrarianMarian 12 жыл бұрын
but yeah, you should stick to infomercials, i don't think this is right for you.
@TheLibrarianMarian
@TheLibrarianMarian 12 жыл бұрын
Anyway, the soccer game was about the officials fucking up, while the badminton match was about the players fucking up on purpose. There's an enormous difference.
@TheLibrarianMarian
@TheLibrarianMarian 12 жыл бұрын
i'm canadian, but i understand that most people get upset and lash out when they're proven wrong. don't worry, i won't hold it against you.
@TheShepdawg9
@TheShepdawg9 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely hilarious. They threw the match in hopes that the country would have more teams still in the running as the tournament progressed, and in doing so they were banned anyway. Fantastic.
@cameron.denham
@cameron.denham 10 ай бұрын
The draw system was outrageous. BWf (Badminton World Federation) strongly advised the Olympic committee against it. It is not the athletes fault at all, they want to win. And were doing what made that easier. No other tournament apart from the 2012 Olympics has that system, and no other tournament does. One of the dqs ended up winning gold at Tokyo.
@TheShepdawg9
@TheShepdawg9 10 ай бұрын
@@cameron.denham it is the athletes fault, cause they were warned that they'd be disqualified if they continued to throw the game, and yet they did.
@pboyle1220
@pboyle1220 5 жыл бұрын
It’s not cheating it’s exploiting the system
@iguasenvideo
@iguasenvideo 12 жыл бұрын
this reporter's voice sounds like he spends his nights drinking, smoking and shouting
@123Kiokiou321
@123Kiokiou321 12 жыл бұрын
Well, didn't Badminton originate from Great Britain? I think that's what the narrator is getting at.
@TheLibrarianMarian
@TheLibrarianMarian 12 жыл бұрын
I've clearly hurt your feelings, but I'm really not sure how. Are you really sensitive or something?
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