Should poker machines be abolished? (1961) | RetroFocus

[@MonkeyHazard]

I'm really, really loving these videos, they're extremely insightful and informative.

[@jonathantrego]

“People should be protected.... People should be restricted.... they are not intelligent enough”. Now please let me walk off with my carton of cigarettes and lottery tickets.

[@trantor29]

I had to laugh to stop myself from crying. a little too close to home for me lol

[@Cassxowary]

Yet neither of you will start using your hearts and brains an and making the right choices.

[@lillianlilo7447]

We saw "KES" on a large box. Could have been a box of CORNFLAKES.

[@fredbalzi6166]

He had the most clever point though, he wasn’t patronizing other people but speaking of humans as a whole

[@Takeshi_Kovacs7]

Seems to me like the people back then had better manners, english skills and dignity compared to people today.

[@Denidrakes69]

nah, people don't change. Who they choose to interview and where they go to do it might, but humanity on the whole never does.

[@carollopes5950]

@Buttrape Bill you are so smart

[@marksummers5504]

Actually most people didn’t seem to want to talk and acted as if they were either in a rush or annoyed by the questions

[@DonaldBiden]

@Jeremy Kirkpatrick Not true, if they had gone to the poorer suburbs in sydney you would have seen the same characters as you see today, just using a slightly dated vocabulary.

[@sennahoj777]

Religion *hrm*

[@BeeloBeatz]

"well....if you didn't gamble on one thing you'll gamble on something else, wouldn't you?"

[@sophiahanson4279]

I think I would have liked her :)

[@z1u512]

MusicMadMaurice why so?

[@pakerandmak]

@MusicMadMaurice yea no, she's absolutely right. gambling is a personality addiction and the person would be just as likely to gamble on something else. Perhaps a poker table opposed to a machine or other betting gambles. I respect you trying to formulate ur own opinion though but unfortunately theres to many conclusive theories to why eliminating one method of gambling wouldnt stop gambling for someone entirely

[@pakerandmak]

@MusicManMaurice no shit that if more things exist, then people will do it, its just how statistics work. What we're talking about is the gambling addiction behaviour of a single individual.

[@pakerandmak]

@MusicManMaurice im not only speaking anecdotally from the friends ive lost to gambling but also the facts. Once a person has begun feeding that addiction. they will find as many different ways to fulfill it or replace it with something else. To answer your question why do gambling industries keep expanding, probably to satisfy the growth of the addiction as well as technological , regulatory and financial factors. These markets may be unntapped for many of those reasons but may also be gamblers from other roots (not necessarily casino wise but addiction personality wise) looking to satisfy their addiction with another source.

[@bobwarden5812]

1:35 Say hello to ‘Mr. Do-As-I-Say-Not-As-I-Do’.

[@callumjoyce1712]

For context, 80 Australian Pounds in 1961 is the equivalent of roughly 2,300 Australian dollars today

[@tachikomakusanagi3744]

were they referred to as quids though? Genuinely interested

[@jim671671]

Yeah mate, a quid is a pound.

[@johnd8892]

@@tachikomakusanagi3744 Slang. Like dollars and bucks so were pounds and quid. Likely even more widespread. Same with Shillings and a Bob. Like a two Bob watch Being a near useless cheap two shilling watch. Although back the you could buy 6 or 8 newspapers for two Bob.

[@johnd8892]

@Jdjdj smith Was very widespread to say quid back when Australian pound shillings and Pence currency were in use before 1966 ,but gradually went out of common use. Still occasionally hear past references like " my father used to earn twenty quid a week' and most will understand.

[@charlesdickens6706]

...Speech pathologists working with elderly stroke and dementia patients have to learn these old terms to evaluate their patients , a few young ones are bamboozled if they hear florin . I conservatively said equivalent to at least a thousand bucks . I do recall prices then for real estate and food stuffs and hardware like steel fence star posts for a shilling each and today around $6 each for say a five foot length. Four n twenty pie for a shilling at tuck shop or milk bar . Prices began to rise quickly from the seventies pushed to some measure by constant industrial disputes and strikes but other factors too .

[@dielfonelletab8711]

60 years on, we still have the same problems if not worse.

[@purplebean8989]

Worse: because now gambling is online, and so are loan sharks

[@goldenerafanatic4042]

It’s a lot Worse

[@MavihsLH]

1:34 This man looks a little modern for his time.

[@Cassxowary]

No, he doesn’t.

[@fraimework]

Why do you play the poker machine Sage : it’s a sports 😎

[@thedrummerdude2431]

Some people have the will power to have a bit of a gamble and leave it at that. Other people just don't have an "off" switch. Maybe a gambling licence or limit. Problem is like tobacco and nicotine they will never outright ban it because they make too much revenue out of it.

[@sammyvanhecke4628]

That's sad but true

[@pauliejay4161]

1961 - 2020 - not much has changed, except that virtually every pub is now a gambling den.

[@coreymicallef365]

"Should poker machines be abolished?" Yes

[@andrewmclaren858]

1:34, Tom from 90 day fiancé. Time traveler

[@axamontes801]

YESLOL

[@EndieM8]

2:40 love this guy

[@isaiahdawson7866]

Why?

[@EndieM8]

just because of what he says and how he says it, reminds me of my grandparents. im indifferent about the issue if you wanted to get into a dicussion about the topic itself lol

[@isaiahdawson7866]

Do your Grandparent speak like they've got a mouthful of food all the time?

[@EndieM8]

@@isaiahdawson7866 more about the mannerisms and the accent

[@alinfriedman8080]

@@isaiahdawson7866 he doesn't have teeth, and his gums caved inwards, back then, they didn't have the dental proficiency we take for granted today.

[@MaxGon5]

Loving these videos!!!

[@callumvanheerden1530]

I think the problem is that most people do not understand the law of large numbers, the house edge will always be how much you lose on average for each play. Interestingly, if there were no house edge, you would not lose money in the long run becuase you would have a 50/50 chance of winning. If anyone reading this is a gambler, ask yourself if you would make an unfair bet with a friend where he has better odds than you? That is exactley how casinos work, they offer you an UNFAIR BET... You may think you have a good strategy but I promise you that you cannot beat the system unless you are cheating.

[@tzarina2062]

If that's true how do any of us profit? Or do I just imagine my winnings that I take home from the casino? The house always has the advantage but so what that's gambling. If video machines an table games are too risky for you go try sports betting or the ponies.

[@birdvideos9085]

@@tzarina2062 It's not that it's impossible for you to win but that the odds are against you every time. If there is a 40% chance that you win and you play the game 100 times you will lose 60 times. If you play the game once, you only have 40% chance of winning, you may win once but if you play the game even just 8 times you will lose money.

[@Esperboy8]

1:34 that guy looks totally like young Chandler from friends, also sound very similar xD😂😂😂

[@goyonman9655]

1:28 ikr?

[@alansmitheejr.]

Watching this you can see how Dame Edna came to fruition.

[@adamfrazer5150]

The younger man with the slicked hair and glasses - he sums up the human condition from A to Z ! Brilliant stuff :)

[@Pherecydes]

That guy was a piece of work. 30 second conversation and you know exactly what kind of person he is.

[@freelanceopportunist559]

"You know what I mean like?"

[@MafiaboysWorld]

The guy at 1:33 is everything that Australia has become. Paranoid, oversensitive, nanny state policies.

[@troywright359]

He thinks you're very weak.

[@mcnuggetsferg1685]

@@troywright359 But he doesn't think his form of gambling is gambling so his statement doesn't apply to himself, he is very strong.

[@rafiashraf2769]

“I have a lottery ticket” “Should that be gone away with?” (British accent) “noooooo”

[@jasonacg]

But he has a lottery ticket. In other words, do as I say, not as I do. Some things never change.

[@Cassxowary]

Oversensitive? Is that what you call being human and not a heartless mindless destruction puppet? And it’s not paranoia. People in power are constantly trying to profit off you all.

[@matthewjdell]

i love the background to this video. it's Taylors Square in Darlinghurst. the buildings in the background are still standing.....

[@Seapin1]

I reckon poker machines are sinister. Definitely limit the hours that these scourges operate due to the social harm. It was better when Victoria had no pokies & oldies had to bus it up to the border to play in NSW - it was more of a social trip. I also hate those gambling apps that let people lose their money too easily

[@GiveItUpDot]

2:08 my kind of human

[@phil2782]

2:04 my kind of human

[@Pherecydes]

The philosopher

[@yeahwhatever3576]

People seemed way more concise back then

[@alldayubum]

The correct answer is yes all the Rigged ones which is pretty much all Of them anyways

[@flumpyhumpy]

Very confused fellow at 1:33.

[@charliedawson4877]

My new answer to literally every question is _You know what I mean, like?_

[@seanreilly5940]

“If you call that gambling”

[@Lorant1984]

Is it just me, or we have looked different back then. I mean the facial features of today's man and woman appear to be much "softer" compared to the era in which the video was made?

[@vegastrina]

People spend more time today inside and less time outside as they did. People also worked more labor jobs then...chisled them up a bit.

[@Quincycle]

Our testosterone levels have dropped massively

[@DonaldBiden]

1:34 Looks like Colin Firth

[@TheCleaner76]

Not one person walking around looking at their phone

[@bobwarden5812]

They were too bulky and awkward to carry about, not to mention that you couldn’t find a cable long enough to reach all the way back home.

[@BIGWILLYAUS]

Spot on

[@fireballxl-5748]

@2:00 the guy with the glasses thought he was smarter than most people and he knew best for THEM......but he played the lottery, which has rightly been called the poor man's tax because it is such a sucker bet.

[@tulipchic34]

People seemed much classier then

[@yyosh4762]

2:42 Ah yes, what a 'classy' person. We haven't really changed too much since then.

[@goyonman9655]

I love the second lady

[@danbee6103]

Sports require athletes, pulling a handling on a machine doesnt make you an athlete.

[@optimisticwhovian1726]

Chess is considered a sport these days so that term has become pretty broad.

[@mem3ntomori]

Who ever said poker machine players are athletes. Chess requires some logical thinking , where there are infinite possible outcomes of how a game can play out depending on the input. Poker machines have little or no varying possibilities from an input except when gambling a win which is completely based on chance.

[@danrobinson572]

I was waiting to see Lenny McPherson playing one of his machines.

[@ashleyschooneman2998]

My word I say get rid of those blimey poker machines,cheerio

[@GG-ud8id]

I would love to be able to step through the screen and into this time in history. Just to experience it for one day!

[@goyonman9655]

2:09

[@zwarst]

1:35 sec best

[@WyattCayer]

That dude with the donuts was a riot!

[@blastermaster2383]

What guy with the donuts.I only saw a guy eating an apple.

[@blastermaster2383]

MusicMadMaurice Mate,look again,fair enough DOUGHNUT but it was an APPLE 🍎

[@blastermaster2383]

MusicMadMaurice Good point.He was having an apple chaser.

[@mickfitz76]

He was stoned munching out.

[@birdvideos9085]

I think about it this way. In order to make a profit the owners of the machines have to make it so that on average more people lose than win. Otherwise the owners will lose money on average, and they wouldn't have built the machine in the first place. The odds are against you everytime you play, and yet people are tricked into believing they can win. It's like betting on the slowest horse in the world to win the Melbourne Cup. Even though you know it's likely to lose you still bet on it. In my opinion, tricking people into giving you money is not a business.

[@alexcolon5624]

I hope and pray to god for gambling of any kind to be soon banned in the Uk. It has eaten people’s life. Ban them all!!!

[@kendalson7817]

The lady at 1:30 nailed it. If the pokies weren't there gamblers would just gamble on something else

[@mahmoud1002]

Seems that very first person is proof Mrs. Doubtfire was actually Australian 😂

[@faizanjoyia]

80£ back then was lot of money

[@danrobinson572]

The lady at 1:05 looks like the gangster lady Matilda Devine.

[@veesurf]

1:39 Marty Mcfly

[@dannyboysable]

More like George McFly 🤣

[@gavinhudson5251]

Accents have changed over the years. We sound more refined now.

[@arrowb3408]

Oh... HAHAHA can't believe it. At that time, our English still very British English from that short gambler grandpa at 3:09. VERY VERY INTERESTING.

[@junhotan2096]

now they are everywhere

[@ketherwhale6126]

Yes they should

[@tachikomakusanagi3744]

this is 'an' historical accent goldmine

[@3eeeDee]

Where are all the 20-year-olds in this video? Everyone looks 55

[@offgridjohn871]

Two words.. personal responsibility.

[@daviddavidson1417]

We should legalise heroin, it's up to people if they use it or not.

[@offgridjohn871]

David Davidson indeed . Is better to have dangerous freedom than safe slavery

[@daviddavidson1417]

We create things that individuals aren't built to handle responsibly. We're just human, not perfect decision makers. Absolute freedom causes as much chaos as absolute control.

[@ngdukic]

Personal freedom is an illusion. It doesn't exist.

[@enzolupert7934]

01:26 WeeeeeeeeeeeeeLL, I guess naaaaaw LOL LOL

[@bradford_shaun_murray]

2:40 summary

[@Bart-Did-it]

Ooooh the Devil Gambloor been around awhile ay.

[@displayfireworks]

0:54 Sure that is easy for him to say. LOL

[@catherineoconnell3213]

Worse now..........digital online robbery...........

[@gregorywall2479]

Everybody went to the same optometrist.

[@theresamushroomonmyshirt7783]

Came for Draco Malfoy. My disappointment is immeasurable, and my day is ruined.

[@ripme6616]

They're my ancestors god love em

[@charlesdickens6706]

.....at the end the short bloke lost eighty quid .Good that he's dropped them and not gotten into chasing his losses. In many aspects £80 back then was at least like a thousand dollars today . Housing was cheap though , often a house was cheaper than a new car . ABC still doing the BBC accent then huh .The pokies were a NSW thing . Nobody today wants to be seen wearing those coats .

[@TheOnesAtTheBottom]

1:33 that guy😂😂

[@bonniemagpie5166]

"Why do you play poker machines?" "It's a sport!" 😂 Typical Australian's as we used to know them🇦🇺.

[@HaveanOreshnik]

Not wrong to play and gamble

[@bipolatelly9806]

lol If you play the pokies, you're a loser. In more ways than one.

[@bipolatelly9806]

@MusicMadMaurice .....and the world gets stranger minute to minute.

[@arrowb3408]

HAHAHA We got pokie since so long? No wonder now there are many pokie's offspring shops and punters. HAHAHA It ALWAYS fun to watch B&W TV interview shows. HAHAHA I can tell what difference is by comparing the old Ozzie to new ones. Still love old days.

[@JelqtronZero]

0:55 "i havent got the time efhweiu fiifewif weuif" too busy with his and and mouth full of donuts. HAHA times change but people are the same way

[@egospecto1815]

We kept the pokies, and abolished the hat!

[@murdaone261]

...BO$ MURDA ONE

[@green2stayecoswdmarketingn339]

I don't fit in this country ,I am like an 'alien'

[@bipolatelly9806]

THIS country (1961) is long gone.

[@ngdukic]

Those who don't fit in in Australia are choosing not to.

[@green2stayecoswdmarketingn339]

@@ngdukic what is Australian ?, exactly

[@ngdukic]

@@green2stayecoswdmarketingn339 A person who is a citizen of Australia. Didn't you go to school? Even little children know that!

[@green2stayecoswdmarketingn339]

@@ngdukic School, right😂

[@andrewmiles4396]

By “poker machines” do they mean machines you play a hand of poker against or just an old name for slot machines?

[@tomtonka1915]

slot machine. In Australia we call them pokies.

[@weetoable]

wellllll

[@TMWill-fi5fy]

"I think people are very weak and they must be protected". That was a smart man.

[@anneb889]

It’s tough though, how much of your personal liberty are you willing to hand over to the government? Should certain books, movies, etc be banned? Remember they wanted to ban rap music and video games. It’s a catch 22. What good comes from gambling? Like most things, if you just have a night of entertainment, quit after a preset amount is spent, walk away, not huge deal. Like a person who can have one drink to unwind after a long day. It’s the people who don’t/can’t stop. Addiction ruins lives. But should we ban it because some people can’t handle it?

[@jacoboribilik3253]

@@anneb889 very good point Anne and I am not saying this just because of the mere fact that you are in posession of a vagina.

[@teatowel11]

I think people are very weak so we shouldn't allow them to make decisions for us. Politicians all authorities are just people.

[@00.388]

4 I guess?

[@mikecozzi1040]

😳 Sounds Like Something from the Twilight Zone! 🤓 Yeah! Liberal Diddly Poo! 😳 Fiction! That came right out of the Twilight Zone and Came True! 🤓Yeah! But Worst then Poker Machines! 🤓Lol!

[@markmauk8231]

I never heard the word abolished before.....

[@scottmorrison466]

They were certainly a lot better off than we are.

[@robethius_]

3

[@nikiss8]

the problem with pokies is that they target weak people to gamble a lot. need to regulate and implement say 1hour no pokies. give people a chance

[@carpo719]

I love it when people just say yes they should be abolished, assuming government should take care of the people...lol

[@tobiasvik3278]

They don't assume it, that's just what they want.

[@darkfire4047]

2

[@roflcopterkklol]

Ban micro transactions first.

[@tanello2]

"No english" well there started the end of Aussieland

[@tbl5138]

Men and females were better dressed back in the days wish those times would come back when there was no nudes

[@r.4259]

1

[@Stand4Liberty]

Aust gambling capital of the world, every street corner pup = pokies.

[@chippyboy35]

The Abc should be abolished

[@ngdukic]

Yeah, good luck with that.

[@optimisticwhovian1726]

Can we abolish fuckwits like you from posting commentary?