Ableton Move Impressions: So Close!

[@jonmakesbeats]

You covered my cons with it. The issue is if you want to use this as a sample based artist who wants to take it further in the computer (and why wouldn’t you) you’re sort of discouraged from doing any sort of chopping at all. One shots, sure. But as soon as you start doing “chops” on this thing you back yourself into a corner once you export it. If you want to do anything further than drum rack trimming you’ll just have to chop it all over again. Huge oversight and something I hope they fix in the future.

[@Monsterism]

Screen size would put me off chopping myself, it's possible but doubt it be fun to do.

[@RickyTinez]

Yeah, I don’t see it as being a crazy difficult update because they have a bunch of filters in here for everything else! And I also wish there was a nudge timing on steps

[@pdm67]

yeah - I really hope they improve the chopping.

[@jonmakesbeats]

@@RickyTinez there’s no nudge? Ah man that’s a wild omission

[@jimmypierson1980]

As a sample worker i gotta say it didn't even come to mind to consider this machine for anything else than midi composition, same as the circuit ryhtm, they're just not there. In that price tag no one has put out a sampler that can come close to the sp mk2. But then again, the sp doesn't match the others when it comes to proper sequencing and synthesis. Anyway, i can't fathom writing melodies and chords with pads, just feels wrong so no go for me.

[@ZombiesWerePeopleToo]

I worked on this machine up until around 2 years ago, and pretty much every con you mentioned was somewhere on a "future features" page even when I was still there. So many of the missing features you mentioned were things that I was personally advocating for that felt like such low-hanging fruit and only require firmware changes, I’m honestly pretty shocked that they didn’t implement them before the public release. Ableton had a lot of layoffs in the past 2 years and a lot of the team that could have been working on the move were instead focussing on the push 3, I would guess that the team is still small and they probably had to focus all their energy on the reliability that Ableton is known for instead of implementing new features, even ones that would be easy wins like per-track filter fx.

[@valuemastery]

Thanks for the insights. Probably, now that it's out, the small team has to focus on bugfixing for a while, but then hopefully works on that missing feature list.

[@nrosko]

Was lucky enough to test Move & I'm not really into all the 'limiting' philosophy, when i first tried it i was disappointed i wanted more tracks & deeper options but after some time with it I have grown to really appreciate it. For me It's great at starting tracks & ideas, having something i can just pick up take out in the garden, to work or the bedroom & get creative. A laptop or app doesn't compare in that regard. Then knowing that if its decent & useful its 0 effort to upload it to live to work on & expand, it will just appear in your browser in live. Also its really well built, its not some cheap piece of plastic toy it has the Ableton as an 'instrument' philosophy.

[@JoseGRendons]

Ableton is working already on updates, which may include: transferring User Device Presets from your computer to Move, Full MIDI SYNC, adding more MIDI Tracks (to send MIDI Only to ext devices) , etc. The good thing is that the Firmware can be updated so the features can be expanded

[@NoobeyTunes]

This is great news. I just got my Move today in the mail. If it could only send MIDI for one track, that would be a non-keeper. I didn't see that anywhere I'd looked in the manual. Think I'll keep it and see what updates come along. In the meantime, if it prompts me to make more music, then it's done it's job.

[@CodyAvant]

Excited to hear it. I’d gladly enable a mode for 1 instrument track and multiple midi tracks, though midi is low overhead and maybe they can pull it off without compromise.

[@valuemastery]

Having the 4 internal tracks plus additional 4 Midi tracks to control external gear would be great. Also routing the audio from an external synth via the line in to the audio out or internal speakers (and probably through two additional effects) would be great; it could save you from carrying a mixer when you're "on the move" and want to sequence only one external battery powered synth.

[@HammyHavoc]

I'm amazed it can't do that already. Doesn't make me want a Move any less, but just surprised.

[@chrisliddiard725]

"I appreciate your time" - if only there were more like this. Subscribed. If i didn't have the Push standalone i would be on this. The 'simpler interface is also a plus, ditto 'Midi capture'. Now if only it had 'audio capture', eg audio always listening. That feature alone would make it a must-have. It could have been one of those features that works when its plugged in and not just on battery.

[@samprock]

Can’t wait for mine! Would never worry about chopping cons. Will use it to make music. It’s great this device is for music idea capture, not about sample chopping, there is dozen of machines for that. Seq tr-style + usable pads + capture/undo flow + battery + effortless transfer for idea not to stay buried in the device is indeed groundbreaking. ❤

[@raulalaris]

but it is about sample chopping otherwise they wouldn't advertise that feature specifically...

[@flownaut]

@@raulalaris i can record a 16 pad drum kit thru the built in mic and maybe only have to adjust 1 or 2 chops, it takes like 2 mins per kit if i knew what to record ahead of time. at least for one shots it has automatic detection so it skips ahead to the first transient of your recording, its fun as fuck honestly

[@samprock]

That’s great! I usually prep drum/perc/etc in DAW, in particular I like Hang. It seems it’ll be the first device I would want to record finger snap to on-board mic. Because I know it will not be buried in the device but will travel with the project to Ableton and besides being part of the groove sample become part of my sweet samples Fort Knox collection. Can’t wait for Move to arrive. Cheers!

[@samprock]

@@raulalarisI had so many devices incl Akai Force, NI Machine+, Roland MV-1, TE OP-Z/1/KO’s, etc. They do chopping flawlessly, though always problem with “now what”. The use flow and overall getting around is crucial to keep enjoying a groovebox. Also hope Ableton is not the mentioned companies you have to wait 1-3 years for update or never. Cheers!

[@fauxlamarr]

I ordered one. I’m not quite ready for big bro, but this is just perfect for my current needs.

[@liothomasart]

When I see the Move I want the Push 3 even more

[@db_030]

I own a Push 3 and it's great but you just can't take it on the sofa. It's supposed to stay on the studio desk. For scatching ideas while laying in bed or something like that, this seems great. Can't wait for my unit to arrive :)

[@el_dani]

Sure you can take Push 3 to the sofa or bed. It‘s just a big honk and nobody else could be there

[@db_030]

@@el_dani true 😂

[@RobotSnake]

@@el_dani Yeah, I had to buy a huge computer, lap stand because it made my legs fall asleep. The move is perfect in my lap.

[@GirlfightClub]

@@el_danipush 3 gets hot as hell if stand alone version which obviously if you’re on the couch you’d be using the untethered one

[@toi_techno]

All hardware (style) gear should have midi in and out

[@el_dani]

A firmly and big: YES, and also thru to pass through clock.

[@LetsMakeBeatsYT]

Thanks for your Video! And YES I would like to see more Videos and Beats you do on the Move 😀 As a Circuit heavy user I am used to limitations but sometimes thats what keeps me curios to find a work around instead of looking forward to a machine that fits all my needs. I bet they will improve over time and your video also will show them what has to be done! Props out for your content over the last years Ricky!

[@irok81]

Obviously we heard a lot of cons, but being an Ableton device, I’m sure most of the stuff we are crying about on launch day will be fixed in later updates. I’m sure they can expand on this a bit more and add some more features.

[@joechapman8208]

Why are you sure? We don't know how this thing is built.

[@claystephens8522]

​@@joechapman8208 Ableton has a great track record of engaging with its user community and releasing updates. Live 12.1 just dropped and it's a banger and also totally free. I predict that we will see a flurry of updates tweaking the device over the next several months to a year -- once it's firing on all cylinders, it will stabilize for a period of time and then eventually we'll see an MK2 that addresses many of the shortfalls that are being articulated here. That's the roadmap.

[@claystephens8522]

@@joechapman8208 and actually we do know how it's built. someone already opened one up and posted the photographs on Elektronauts. go have a look! seems like there is definitely some headroom in there for further development.

[@joechapman8208]

@@claystephens8522 My experience is that Ableton painfully drags its feet for years (VST3 implementation, for example), and I don't think it's sensible to compare open-ended software with closed-system hardware in any case. The machine may simply not be built to ever do some of the things you want, and we can't wish ourselves past a hardware limit.

[@joechapman8208]

@@claystephens8522 I don't know why KZbin is refusing to publish my reply, but in brief I was saying that this isn't my experience with Ableton at all. They take years, even as much as a decade, to provide updates that they told us were coming "soon," and that's with open-ended software. But even if Ableton were timely providers of features, we can't wish our way past a strict hardware limit. There could well be insurmountable issues where the hw simply can't do what you want.

[@Androsynth75]

One thing I’ve learned with modern gear is that updates make or break a device. They all launch with missing features and the successful companies push updates out that address user concerns. Seeing as this is Ableton, I don’t doubt this will be a different device down the road. It’s close. It’s almost what I want in a portable sketch pad.

[@CodyAvant]

This is an excellent point. It feels like Note and Move will be on the same release cycle / codebase. There are advantages to making hardware little computers (as opposed to whatever Espen Kraft is saying these days).

[@Androsynth75]

@@CodyAvant There is. Look at what day the MC-101 or SP-404mk 2 can do now vs launch. Almost like they’re their own sequels.

[@HammyHavoc]

​@@Androsynth75Then look at the disappointment of Maschine, Maschine Jam and Komplete Kontrol.

[@GuyGamer1]

My Push 2 gets all the updates Push 3 does, and it's 9 years old now. Everything on it got overhauled when Push 3 came out.

[@filmingkey]

From what I can tell from my research, you can do multi pad recording while resembling. It’s not only reserved with sampling from the line in. This is essentially a chopping function. That’s good enough for me but I do wonder what sort of limitations that will bring.

[@myreviewdotcom]

Thank you for your impressions as you covered so much so quickly and professionally!

[@franciscosilvatorrealba3359]

Correct if I'm wrong, but there are some limitations with the sequencer: The length of a pattern is defined only in bars of 4/4, meaning that you can't have a 17 step bar on one track, and 31 steps on other track, if you wanna do more weird stuff or unusual tempo signatures. Also, no step probability. Great sampling capabilities though. Thanks Ricky!!

[@StefanWolfrum]

Thanks so much, Enrique! ❤ Looking forward to all the upcoming firmware updates for MOVE. Mine arrives tomorrow! 😉

[@spooky_zoo]

This review is spot on. Covers all my own Pros and Cons with Move and in just 7 minutes too! Good work. I'm really digging Move and can only see it getting better in future.

[@joaehun]

Would love to have seen you using the Move. But I guess sooner or later will happen. Stoked and can’t wait for that!❤

[@DavidPeck]

Thanks for covering the MIDI connectivity! No MIDI in or out was killing me, but at least you can do some over USB. Hoping they add Midi Clock / Transport In functionality. Not seeing anyone talk about it in this way, but once you are able to import your own presets + macros, this thing is basically going to be a standalone Wavetable + Drift! Macros will be enough for live tweaking. I've been in the market for a small portable polysynth for live sets, and this might be it! Might just sequence it with the Digitkat 🤔😁

[@nkozi]

my thoughts exactly

[@nkozi]

Def wanna see more on Move from ya - I think you're like, the perfect creator on this platform to have one, since this is essentially like if they turned a few tracks of Live into a Circuit. One thing I haven't seen anyone really dig into is the fact that every track is fully polyphonic, so it could be a bunch of polysynths all at once, or that each -cell- of the drum rack can be played melodically.

[@johnjulius2043]

Ha, thrilled that you picked one up and can't wait to see what you do with it! I'm having a ball so far, but I am a big fan of Push and haven't really clicked with other hardware workflows. Definitely curious to see how someone with such a strong Elektron and MPC background gets on with the Move.

[@watercolourmark]

I get the impression that Move and Push stand-alone are works in progress. The feature set and function will change over time. The best way to get the features users want is to get the product out there and refine with feedback. Which Ableton's beta projects on Live and Push already do, which includes a feature request section.

[@funkeinstein]

I'm really pleased with the Ableton note app and my Korg NanoKey Bluetooth keyboard. This setup almost fully covers this machine.

[@park171]

Great review and perspective, as far as limitations go, we do this often when we make a small studio or isolated a workflow to a single synth to give yourself a break from the larger studio that offers almost unlimited resources. Limits are a good thing!

[@HairySalamander]

Thank you for the video! I was really curious about your thoughts on move. Are you planning to do a video on the chase bliss clean? I'm curious about it as an end-of-chain compressor for synth set ups. Currently I use an electroharmonix platform to do the same thing.

[@rgeraldc80s]

If they listen to you and the other creators/community it can be an amazing device as time rolls on. Hopefully it "moves" with Ableton Live updates and gets more features. Id just love a mode that is loaded with a full/fuller version of Operator, or Drift if you have the full version of Live.

[@EdoardoMarcora]

Can you set (per step) and send out MIDI CC and other MIDI messages on the out port? And, more importantly, can you route the external synth to the audio in and then through the selected MIDI track internal fx and back out to the master... or is the audio input only for sampling? The Novation boxes allow for audio routing this way.

[@Khordmaster]

Great overview! I’m getting mine soon. The only real major con for me is that the usb c port cannot handle audio in and out on my iPhone (or at least I think that’s the case). Either way I’m excited for (and curious about) this product!

[@maxsmart9116]

Better synth engines than the circuit and the ability to load into the daw without recording each track separately have me thinking about it (after a couple updates or so).

[@_minus]

It has polyphonic aftertouch too

[@ChrispyDubstep]

Do you think it could be used for performing, or is more of a idea creating/producing type hardware?

[@clyphxpro]

thanks man for your opinion. I actually was waiting for your video about this device!

[@quillanhall4771]

Thanks for the breakdown. Have fun with it!

[@AveMcree]

Is it possible for you to use a channel EQ on the whole entire drum rack? If so, then use the EQ to filter. Either way more power to the people who buy this unit. I don’t think it is that bad of a deal for $450.

[@RickyTinez]

I tried, and it’s more like a bell curve so there’s no specific low pass filter in there. And the only freq control is the Mid Frequency. :/ super bummer

[@SnowflakeHaze]

2:45 this is one of my first frustrations with it that I am not sure how to word. I hope Ableton takes videos like yours and make a Move 2

[@DomDomPop]

Ok but for the size, this seems like a great companion for the M8, both for exporting to it and using as a midi controller. I haven’t been able to get an OMX-27 yet, so something like this can be used both standalone and as a midi controller instead of as just something that can’t operate unless it’s plugged in to something else. Like, as a velocity-sensitive midi controller+standalone capabilities (including wavetable!), it’s honestly not a bad deal.

[@xselfcreative]

I’m definitely looking forward to for your in-depth review Ricky 🫶🤘🤘

[@FRESHENDEAVOUR]

great video as always, Ricky, thanks! I was about to buy a syntakt … BUT as this is a bit cheaper perhaps I’ll try this first … then succumb to the Elektron crüe 😅😅😅

[@beefeeb]

I wonder if you can open it up and swap the SD card with something larger… Personally I'd love to see operator and the filter effect added, don't mind the other limitations, 3 synth tracks and a drum rack is plenty for generating ideas

[@lundsweden]

There probably is no internal SD card... more likely to be built in (soldered in) memory those days.

[@MoistBananaFantasmagoria]

Alright… which one of y’all is gonna be the first to do a teardown video?

[@samprock]

Same here

[@droggisch]

It is a SD-Card. It can be replaced but obviously warranty is voided.

[@lundsweden]

@@droggisch Cool- 1TB here we come!

[@RhymePractice]

Revised inquiry. I see there's a sample time of 4 minutes. I can import WAV files up to 100 MB. I just watched a video on how to chop long imported samples, where mute groups were mentioned. Drum pad volumes can be adjusted while holding down the relevant pad, using the master volume I see ADSR in the manual. 1. Is there pattern chaining? 2. Do I mute/solo drum pads in a drum kit individually in a live setting within session mode or drum sub-mode? 3. Which is simplest way to change timing of a one shot via micro steps with (11.4) Note Nudge in Note Mode or adding steps to a loop length? 4. What is the max SD card size?

[@decapmusic]

Great hang bro! 🙌🏼

[@ThePavin]

Would love to see this v. KO II. I think it really hits the artist looking for something a leaning a little more towards professional/full production equipment. All, at not a huge price jump.

[@morganpage]

Just noticed that the internal recording is 32bit/44k which is great for recovering clipper samples - surprised they don’t mention that.

[@Tripwelleverday]

Great video bud love the editing

[@dubnightstudio]

I was waiting for this Video from you.Thanks. ❤

[@jdor7354]

Great suggestions. Threshold for Record Start is important and I hope they do implement that in the future. I hope they do listen to your feedback, which had some of the best ideas about this machine I've seen on the net. I'd also like to see the likes of Granulator ported over to it in terms of FX, on top of the obvious Filter for an entire drumkit. As well as probability and other basic note manipulation, Midi track to send to external sound modules (but I understand they mean it to be a sketch pad where the full project gets moved to Ableton Live so that one may go against their philosophy) Can you play a sample chromatically (with the full range, not just 16 pads) with a keyboard, similarly to a Kiviak Wofi or a Roland Aira P6? Do you reckon that Poly AT could possibly made available on the Midi OUT, as a future firmware upgrade, or would it be impossible? Kinda of a pity having a compact set of poly AT pads that can't be used on anything outboard apart from triggering.

[@VouVouVou_music]

The Move really needs a super dim light mode! I was on a plane making music and the lowest brightness was still disturbing others.

[@davidcooke779]

What’s the communication like with Ableton? Once you open the Project in Ableton, can you continue to use Move as a controller?

[@nerdbikes3841]

Not having a wider range of synths like FM is a deal breaker. I think many be this is a wait-till-they-hit-the-used-market type of thing and then we’ll see what it’s like after a few updates.

[@mju135]

Both synths (Drift and Wavetable) can do FM. And Move comes with FM presets for the Wavetable synth.

[@beefeeb]

@@mju135 neither of those are as good as operator though

[@toslinked]

this. I would have been fine with operator only.

[@derekholland3328]

looks like a great sketch box for ideas. then import to ableton to expand on later. kinda cool. kinda.

[@ndavidkelly]

What's it like as a pure controller for Ableton?

[@zuekiin]

Can you do a comparison on the Move, P6 and Circuit Rhythm?

[@EVILJAMARR]

Everything wrong with it can be fixed with a software/firmware update and that's such a relief. Hopefully, they listen to the community and come up with a new software package to give people the features they need to make this a viable device.

[@joechapman8208]

We don't know if it can, though? There could be hard limits in this machine that can never be bridged. Don't pay for anything that's not there on the day you buy it, let alone features that you haven't even been promised.

[@ghfjfghjasdfasdf]

So… they can add another 124 tracks with ease?

[@stavflow]

Totally agree with the "so what" moment when you work on a device like the Ko2. You have an idea but what now? How to get it into the DAW quickly and continue working there. Do you think it is realistic to expect an update from TE on this topic?

[@nucents]

I still want to buy it with all of the cons. I made the mistake of selling my OP-1 right before they upgraded the firmware for USB Line In/Out and I still regret it today 😪. I’ll cop and hope Ableton does the right thing lol

[@morganpage]

Did you try connecting multiple MIDI devices via a hub?

[@jmichell1880]

Can you send midi CCs out using the knobs? Page 34 of the manual makes it seem like you can't but it wasn't clear if it was referring to midi in, midi out or both.

[@atomicafro]

Love the in depth details as always Rick. You've answered a bunch of questions me and the folks on my internal Amazon slack had regarding the Move. A couple other questions you can answer. Is it true that the sampler on the Move is just the drum sampler and there isn't any sustain "looping" of the audio files? As in, in order to have a long sustaining sampled pad, we need to record a long-ass pad sample off off our gear rather than just set loop points? Have you tried creating your own custom presets? The documentation doesn't mention if you can create presets in Ableton containing the wavetable instrument, only drift, drum sampler, and drum rack. Can you automate an external instrument in addition to sequencing it?

[@atomicafro]

In summary, Ableton's documentation s*cks compared to Roland.

[@CH-ei7vv]

Love the new merch!😍

[@RickyTinez]

Thanks CH!!

[@myreviewdotcom]

The whole point of the unit is to attract beginners to Ableton's ecosystem. Other usage scenarios are just very unlikely.

[@EdoardoMarcora]

FEATURE REQUEST #1: Setting to disable internal speakers; right now it seems the only way to do so is to plugin a pair of headphones

[@eaman11]

Move is Note app on dedicated hardware.

[@satyanpatel6403]

What is this "Note app" you speak of?

[@nyanko2077]

Talking about sampling, where is overbridge for digitakt 2, Ricky? We NEED IT badly here :D

[@adissart]

have you heard, supposedly this was done to get rid of the backlog of parts from push 2, electronics, pads, are the pads actually the same as in push 2?

[@janbert4927]

Do you know the max polyphony/voices for each track? I went through the whole manual and also on their webpage, but can`t figure it out.

[@ringtangting]

It's 8 voices per track if I remember correctly from the Sonicstate demo. Check that our for more info.

[@obshaky]

I have a Push 3, is sick, Live 12.1 is sick, but I dont feel this device... yet. I already do my "Move" with Note which btw, shares a lot of the same code with this. If the Circuit had this type of integration with iOS Groovebox it would be a great alternative; similar situation with iMaschine, a great iOS groovebox with no integration with Maschine. Not sure if Novation or Native instruments can bake in the functionality but it would be dope. For me to get this it needs 1) Workflow integration with Push in a way it makes sense. 2) Making Note more than a sketchpad to bring to Ableton a more refined/complete version of the project and this thing be the integrated controller/hw companion. If anything, Akai was the one with the right idea **12 years ago** with the MPC Fly!

[@phantazzor]

Hey thanks, just wonder if there is no glitch or no stop audio from move if you toggle for controlling live to back to editing you move project? Can you make a performance moving from one another

[@CostlyMass]

I really hope they update their new auto shift device to add to effect chain. With the built in mic they push would be a great idea

[@linuxbender]

Primarily software disadvantages that can all be improved with updates. As a simple controller for Ableton Live - if you don't have Push. I don't need anything like that - I have my 1010music black and Og Digitakt. That's enough for me - they also have disadvantages and that's a good thing.

[@TigroGumi]

Well, could be really good as they update it... the future that it captures mdi when your not recording from the DAW is very handy... so you can just jam until you hit something banging.. as long as it's not automatically snapped to the grid lol. Not seeing this blow anything out of the water but would be quite good maybe for a small portable setup, but again have my doubts... for myself, I'll be waiting until it's established and I've seen it used well a number of time

[@blueworm99]

Standalone Idea Generator Groovebox makes sense now, why did Ableton not give it that tag?

[@el_dani]

SIGG? Already taken by a Swiss bottle brand.

[@markkilley2683]

It's highly popular. I suspect it works well with new Ableton update.

[@toslinked]

if they add a full blown elektron style sequencer in coming updates, this machine will be perfect.

[@josephakers1431]

So can you use the 4 tracks, and use it as a midi controller for hardware at the same time?

[@paQ75]

No, at least for now.

[@relative_vie]

excited to see what you cook with it 😏

[@KrazyBaldhead0]

There is a filter in Redux, so until they add one, you can use this (plus it comes with a Dry/Wet, which is pretty nice actually)

[@RickyTinez]

Yea, I saw that one and was just hoping it would close all the way, It's a start! and what REDUX does to the hi-end is actually kind of nice haha. Sounds like an S950 filter

[@humankapital2000]

I like it so far. Hardware feels sturdy, the UI is easy to understand. The web interface is pretty handy. Some really good design decisions have been made here.

[@RickyTinez]

Oh for sure! It’s super sturdy. And I love the UI, it’s so simple and straightforward. It’s hard to get lost. And I was surprised how well the weather interface worked! No glitches nothing since the first time I tried it.

[@dominikhaering]

Thank's for this review. I think this is a missed opportunity, considering what other battery-powered products can do. Yes it's the Ableton universe (check) but the rest. I think I get more out of my SP than the Move. Too bad ... but what I haven't realized yet is the possibility of using it as a midi (over USB) controller for external hardware - firing complex melodies on a syntakt, for example.

[@KenithCopeland]

a lot fo the things i thought would be cool when i saw this released was looping and threshold input, but the hardware is solid, this stuff could be firmware updated. i love ableton and have been looking for a smaller version of push that could sample my guitar, so its probably a goer from me

[@TriangleWaveRecords]

So wait… it says internal SD card… so I wonder if you can open it and upgrade the card? 😅

[@DJCJ999]

... i don't have an Ableton device so this looks like a great option, but, two things come to mind.. I don't see an option to truncate a sample or to normalise (maybe I missed it) and two... please please please let there be an option to motion record start and end points!!! just think of the things you could do with a 6 minute long sample that you could slowly move to different hits or synth samples :D jizzed!!

[@strangeronpublic7987]

Rick! You forgot to talk about Cloud, it’s nice to import your projects from Ableton note, I just found out today

[@Aridonis]

What’s the polyphony limit for the synth tracks?

[@City2x]

Thanks for the honest take. This thing is very tempting. But I need more for the price. I'll wait and see what directions the feature updates go. I think it has the potential get better. But no audio tracks is wack. How un ableton.

[@HammyHavoc]

Honestly amazed by the lack of audio tracks.

[@FxpNtur64]

Should I get the move or digicat?

[@johnchesters81]

Great video Ricky. What’s the orange cable you used to send midi out to the digi please?

[@PhillipKnoll]

Does it have the Push 3 pads??

[@henninghoefer]

How do you think it compares to other compact grooveboxes (e.g. Circuit or OP-Z or Syntakt or Seqtrak or …)?

[@JakeSweeper]

I did order one as a combo grovebox/portable Live midi controller appeals to me being an OTR trucker. Now of they could get some nice and tight MV-1 like integration with Note.

[@satyanpatel6403]

What is this "Note" you speak of?

[@JakeSweeper]

@satyanpatel6403 Ableton Note. It's an ios app; basically, it's a software version of the move.

[@thevinylpimpFloridaBreaks]

I’m using push three paired up with my Mac but was wondering if this would be something I could use for on the fly samples while doing my Vinyl DJ sets? It looks pretty streamlined. I’m currently using the teenage engineering KO too, but this seems to be a little bit more hands-on.

[@adelderderder]

are ableton move can import sounds from laptop, like digitakt???

[@CodyGratner]

You said you wished it had threshold for auto-starting the sample recording so that you wouldn’t have to edit start times. In the sonicstate video, it shows him recording a snap with the mic and the start time got auto-set to the start of the snap, past the leading silence (and was recorded with the mic, so not digital zero silence) A HUGE selling point to me is not having to edit samples I’m recording at all (mostly planning on recording percussion sounds from synths). So, if that feature from the sonicstate video doesn’t actually work like they showed, that’s like half the reason I want this … that I can build up ideas and sample from my synths and then get a 1:1 identical version to bring back to Live. Is that feature not working for you at all? Or, like, does it only work well for one shot percussion things?

[@dang48207]

Can it control external synths?

[@lundsweden]

If it comes with a full version of Ableton Live 12, it would actually be pretty good value.

[@vinylarchaeologist]

Like that, the Move would cost negative $, since the full version of Ableton is more expensive than the Move. Mindblowing, I think we've stumbled upon a wormhole through spacetime.

[@lundsweden]

@@vinylarchaeologist I wasn't talking about Ableton Live Suite, lol. I was just talking about the normal version of Ableton Live. Ableton Live lite is the version usually bundled with hardware, and it sucks.

[@vinylarchaeologist]

@@lundsweden Haha, thanks for the clarification 😀 Otherwise, I was thinking that under your business leadership, Ableton as a company would last entire 2 months 😅 Greetings!

[@lundsweden]

@@vinylarchaeologist Yeah, true they probably make most of their money from the premium versions of Ableton Live.

[@robmartinez5009]

Say, where you get dat shirt?

[@rafa787]

just headphone out? no main outs and aux?

[@pt12lol]

When I saw it for the first time, I immediately thought that it might be a better Circuit Rhythm. It has built-in synth, USB MIDI host, mic, and it handles aftertouch - these are four great items that I really miss in Circuit Rhythm. But now, after your video, I realized that Rhythm is still a better option. Lack of chopping tools and filters does not make sense at all.

[@smartassrecords]

for me it is a swing and a miss , no midi in and out and at least a couple audio outs would have been a better choice

[@christianseebauer3830]

Since the TB303, the entire techno scene has been searching for the perfect electronic instrument to make music like the 303 made. Move will never change that.😅

[@billB101]

The TB303 was a bass accompaniment machine, it was never designed to do what electronic musicians did with it.

[@christianseebauer3830]

@@billB101 But the machine is more techno than Ableton move will ever be.

[@ClassicCult]

Does it have a LFO filter? Like auto filter