Ableton Native Pitch Correction: Auto Shift

[@kimchewy729]

Whoever is in charge of development at Ableton is doing a great job

[@RvonA]

berlin, germany =)

[@dirg3music]

Yeah it seems like they are really getting aggressive with quality updates for 12 in a way they werent with 11. It's awesome to see!

[@melchisedekj]

For sure. They are COOKING over there!!🔥🔥💯

[@MaMusiqueUK]

even lite is very powerful

[@imaginarysheeps]

YOOOOO this is honestly INCREDIBLE. holy crap. one of my favorite things ableton has added in YEARS.

[@Tripticot]

Do you think they will still consider adding ARA2 support at some stage. That new tool there is brilliant but (in a good way too u guess) it doesn’t do what melodyne does

[@horsejohnson7959]

You must not have seen the modulators

[@imaginarysheeps]

@@horsejohnson7959 I haven’t looked into everything new yet cuz I’m currently stuck on macOS Catalina (hackintosh, long story) and live 12 sadly needs Monterey or newer to run. I bout the live 12 upgrade before it dropped and I’m still stuck on 11. x_x so I don’t want to tempt myself even more lol. but I’ll get it sorted soon. hopefully

[@austonsmith536]

There's people who don't have auto tune? Even free on vsttorrentz... weird, how many d.i.y. producers live under rocks.

[@michele709]

@@TripticotARA plugins are difficult to integrate with live session view because they need to know timings of things. They’ve been working on integratong ARA for a while but it’s technically very difficult

[@joshuakalani590]

Goodbye antares, little alterboy and humanoid. You shall forever hold a place in my previous sessions 💔. Moment of silence for the fallen soldiers🥲

[@vugla536]

Is this satire?

[@ihavereservations]

@@vugla536 Is this just fantasy?

[@DamonZenDrummer]

@@vugla536I think he is serious and I agree with him 😊

[@SeedtoStage]

@@ihavereservations 12 wins by a landslide, to escape DAW realityyyy

[@hextray]

maaaaaybe they could still be relevant in terms of CPU usage/latency ?...

[@Fascry_]

I just checked the release notes and there are a ton of superb additions to Live as well as improvements! They really nailed it 👏

[@Fascry_]

Well actually it's probably not called release notes...

[@jv_sux]

Every emotion I saw go through your head was reciprocated almost instantly 😂 I was so excited to see this finally implemented natively, and you made a good point about adding smoothing of the LFO module!

[@TechfreakHasan]

I think the lfo sounded bad because it was set to a triangle wave. It'd be smooth if used in sine wave. Do check.

[@proxzi]

this is gonna be quite big of a game changer for many

[@Audiomoon]

OMG can't wait to see it on the Push standalone, my Tascam can finally rest in piece now. Thanks Ableton, 12 ist getting better and better

[@offchristianamr]

Thanks so much for posting this! The demo in Ableton's video sounded strange and had me really nervous for the quality of the pitch correction in this device. The vocal track they chose to demo the device weirdly sounded like it already had some unnatural pitch correction artifacts on it before the even turned on Auto Shift - it really was not the best source material they could have chosen to show it off 😭 Your demo has made me feel way better about it. It sounds really natural and clean on your voice and will be my go-to pitch correction plugin from now on. Extremely excited for this.

[@LUXXLY]

7:05 .... you're right, I wasn't ready for that!

[@djflipside33]

This is dope. You could probably act like Melodyne by using midi notes to fix where u want them to sing.

[@WBradleyRobbins]

I can't sing for crap, but have never played with a antares or grallion or any other tuner. My eyeballs were itching seeing that midi in while you were covering other stuff.... the possibilities... I can sing flat and pitchy as hell, and have this, in real time, match or harmonize my voice to another track, even a muted one just used to pitch my vocals.... *mind blown*

[@rickdeleon6489]

This is soooo fantastic. Thank you Ableton and it's about time. Excellent tutorial, have been experimenting with this new and has not disappointed. Enjoy your tutorials, to the point, easy to grasp and understand. Keep em coming. Thanks🎶

[@colincobb2742]

Wow, I spent a looong time a few years back implementing a Bon-Iver/Messina type harmoniser in Ableton using a bunch of instances of Waves real-time autotune and a bunch of Max for live devices. This can do it all easily and natively. Very nice.

[@kneonic]

Really awesome to see this built in! Cant wait to try it out.

[@vex-e]

You got me with "Minding my OWN business sleeping"😂 but also finally getting something from Ableton that I don't even know how long we been asking for and needed. Very good Tuesday, indeed.

[@kittycloudz813]

Appreciate your joyful exploration….creative ideas r flowing 🌊🎼

[@JaguarTree.MerkabaMusic]

only took around 20 years but is finally here

[@jhonnelpica6788]

Nice Move there ableton! I dont even plan to upgrade my ableton but now I'm considering because of this!

[@graysonvandenbrink1317]

Proper transposition with the scale degrees is awesome. Automatic choir racks incoming!

[@srgzbltch2249]

I like the way you demonstrated the new effect.

[@prophismusic]

Been asking for this for years

[@jtuttah]

Dude this is so exciting to me. Thinking of so many fun things to do with voices and sounds.

[@extendedblundering]

OH YES! Excited for that live low latency mode. and what a HUGE range of options. Ableton really seems to stay committed to keeping the parameters open to the user rather than having the limitation of safe predetermined settings, which I am so grateful for since I most enjoy being abstract, eccentric, and a little on the wild side

[@Guntherthefool]

The harmonizing possibilities 🔥🔥

[@JamesBermingham]

Time to upgrade to 12 now. This is the tipping point for me. Auto Shift

[@freeplaysamples]

I don’t really download beta but super excited for this update. Can you cover the limiter that’s been updated, drum sampler and saturator as well. I think those features are really going to keep putting Ableton at the top and weren’t advertised as much. Glad I updated to 12; hasn’t crashed once on me and has been the most productive time I’ve had in a DAW. What a time…

[@xrabbz2010]

This is great for someone like me who sings their own tracks but is TERRIBLE at writing harmonies! The scale degrees will be my saviour, and midi in for more intricate parts will be great so I can learn them and then re sing them! Amazing stuff, thanks for making me aware 😊

[@_joac]

I was reading the forum thread asking for this feature a few hours ago… great timing

[@mateoconk]

Best video on this feature I’ve watched so far.

[@chuckenergy]

just tried it out on my shifty vocals and it was great 😭

[@marcelmiagi4579]

My “go-to” channel for anything Ableton and more. Great work man

[@NormanTiner]

I've never tuned my vocals but this is really tempting

[@miguelsandremusic]

Sooo I don’t need to add multiple instances of melodyne. I’ll just correct one, duplicate and use AutoShift for harmonies.

[@EncounterCaneCorso]

Nice, really looking forward to this as well as the limiter, saturator and tagging updates.

[@czowiekzlasu3740]

Didn’t expect it to be so amazing lol good job Ableton!

[@holisticvocalcoach]

FINALLY! Gosh darnit I have been wondering why Live didn't have this for YEARS

[@jerry.berumen]

this and Manipulator can complement each other so much

[@DamonZenDrummer]

What is manipulator ?

[@ariloum]

@@DamonZenDrummer Infected Mushroom's vocoder/fx machine

[@remyvegamedia]

Dude that intro "heeEeEeEeeeey frieEeEeeeends" elicited genuine laughter, thank you hahaha. Also, this update is amazing. The midi control function for the Auto Shift is actually really dope for my uses, because most applications of autotune are not really in my style, but that is DOPE.

[@ShohTann]

this beta update is actually amazing

[@WarpedBlinds]

THE POSSIBILITES ARE ENDLESSSSS. Woooo! Im excited to have a built in auto tiner :)

[@Flohr]

Great video of your initial impressions on this exciting new device. I want to hear it on some drums 😈

[@svenihedlund]

WOW! What an incredible device! Great functionality and great interface! Thank you Ableton, very well done!

[@t.michaelbodine4341]

That’s a remarkable tool. Great video

[@christiansaunders5421]

They finally gave us the Francis and the Lights prismizer with that shift effect!

[@borntosyn498]

I went a year without a laptop so hadnt been on ableton for a while but this is a welcomed surprise 😅 cant wait for my laptop to come in

[@jyack]

holy god, this is a fantastic news. And what a timing, I was comparing antares, melodyne and all

[@dronechoons]

Loving your channel, only found it last week, but watched lot's so far, great stuff, keep it up please!

[@DaveSchulze]

Quickest gun in the west!

[@SeedtoStage]

💥

[@CyanideLovesong]

Oh this is an awesome addition to Ableton. I wonder if this will inspire the Bitwig devs to go in the same direction. The funny thing about competition is it's like an arms race... One DAW's amazing additions encourage others to do similar. Anyhow, this is a big win for Ableton users. Even if they already have a Tune plugin, it's nice to have core tools integrated!!! Nice video.

[@benheinz]

with all the great things they've been adding I'll probably be upgrading to Live 12 soon

[@VJFranzK]

9:40 I notice theres a MIDI in. Is there yet a way to get MIDI out? could be great

[@chriisuu]

Wow that'd be dream come true to have a midi out of such plugin with minimal latency. But probably not possible...

[@VJFranzK]

@@chriisuu It actually is much easier to output a pitch value once the "autotune" has figured it out! that's the challenging part

[@cavedwellersound]

I am so ready for this

[@joshbrugman]

Great tutorial! What headphones are tare you using??

[@TheHutchMusic]

The harmony scale shift 😮😮😮 . Thank you Ableton.

[@goncue9879]

that's a 200 bucks plugin 😮

[@lightbeatz3709]

Comes this with the suite our is it also in the low budget versions

[@Lairmusic]

Been achieving a similar effect using the Merris Hedra pedal, although it's effective it takes some serious finess to dial in. Can't wait to use this with Slink for a more auto tune'esqe feel

[@sb9372_]

Poly mode is the most exciting thing for me, aside from the tighter in DAW integration.

[@sb9372_]

Probably using their elastique to the fullest

[@sb9372_]

*license

[@yuriiparfinenko]

This made want to start playing Ableton again. Incredible.

[@steph_nyc]

What are you using now?

[@morecowbell2611]

These melodies are quite an earworm. Will you turn this into a full track and release it? 😃

[@OldogNuTricks]

Does it handle polyphonic content? (i.e. pitch correction of rhythm guitar or horn section etc.)

[@roman2374]

Sooo how come I didn’t notice this yet /// I’m still crying over the amazing pitch correction capabilities native to Logic Pro that made my shift to Ableton really reluctant (along with the mixer view) but Ableton is slowly catching up on those things - and miles ahead of lots of other stuff that made me switch in the first place

[@NebulaeAbletonCertifiedTrainer]

About time!!!!!!! Also, I'm loving how giddy Anthony gets over this.

[@gahbrieu]

Dirty Projectors vibeees. Loved it!

[@ItsWesSmithYo]

Ableton str8 flexing that💰now…One step closer to not having to leave the DAW 🙏 genius and thanks for the vid 🤙🏽😎🖤🕺

[@Violant3]

it's nice there's another way of creating quick harmonies, but for me, I've been able to do this pretty quick too with antares auto tune, just duplicate the track, go to your recorded clip you want the harmony, make sure it's in complex warp mode and pitch shift it +3st, duplicate again and pitch shift another +5st, works the same way

[@a.z-music]

Hello, love your tutorials Question: Does Auto Shift work with the tuning systems?

[@FarukHalis]

brother can u please make more song tutorials from starch to finish. you seem like very knowable guy and very nice person

[@mkrieg100]

i love how excited u are... its totaly infecting :)

[@CarlitoProductions]

Does this mean that we can do Melodyne stuff inside of Ableton now?

[@MrnuffZ]

This is sick! Thank you Ableton! And thanks for an inspirational video!

[@DerpySwag]

that little melody was giving james blake

[@miekwavesoundlab]

Can you automate transposition key of autotune, for example Bar 1-8 = G minor notes then Bar 9-16 = Bb Major notes? Does it recognize barbershop micro tuning for 3 or 4 part vocal harmony?

[@hyperaesthesia]

(me still using live 9) congrats guys so happy for you😊 👏 🎉"

[@devinkei1469]

Sweet update. Ty for the video. I'm really hoping they add multiple external sidechain inputs on plugins so we can trigger ducking for each band from multiple sources with a single dynamic EQ or multiband compressor

[@erilyd97]

Do any plugins even support that?

[@devinkei1469]

​@@erilyd97Ableton could def add it on their stock plugins. Cubase has it on their stock plugins.

[@devinkei1469]

@@erilyd97 ableton could add that to their stock plugins, cubase has that option with their dynamic eq. Would be very useful in certain situations

[@williamscott5681]

Sheesh, I could get bon Iver's "The Messina" sound with this plugin. So cool

[@DJDRAK]

this is in another level, mind-blowing

[@markparker4362]

Hi Great introduction! Could you also do a demonstration using a sample with multiple notes?

[@vivektyagi6848]

I hit the Like half way through. Many Thanks.

[@lostsoulsoftheabyss1771]

do you have courses explaining why you do A,B,C? its alot of what to do but i just wanna know the reasons behind it?

[@machinemademan]

im more excited about the auto tagging and updates to the saturator and limiter than an auto tuner but it might be good for finding keys of samples and drums or tweaking stuff in a sound design session

[@imaadmajeed]

wonder if the rise of hyperpop had any influence in this being included. are we going to hear a resurgence of 2000s era vocals? exciting!!! i've been using graillon and the next update will include microtuning, so i'll probably stick to that. first time i have been tempted to upgrade to 12!

[@juschu85]

9:10 I would expect the artifacts produced by live mode would be most noticeable for the time of the normal latency right after a pitch change in the input signal. I read a bit about how pitch shifters work and how you maintain a good quality because I thought about developing something like this myself. Simple pitch shifting usually works with granular synthesis. That's traditionally used with samples, but when you constantly fill up a buffer, you can use that buffer as if it's a sample and do some granular synthesis. But when you simply choose a random grain size, you will change the formants too. Especially for pitch-shifting vocals, you want to preserve the formants. Otherwise, you get this unnatural Mickey Mouse effect. As far as I remember, the grain size needs to be as long as one wavelength of the current pitch for the formants to be preserved. Changing the grain size means changing the formants and changing the speed at which you read the samples from the buffer/grain changes the pitch. To analyze the pitch, you need to do an FFT analysis. That takes some time. You can't just throw processing power at it. That's not the problem. It will always take the same amount of time and it only depends on the lowest pitch you want to be able to detect. When it takes 30ms, you need to wait for 30ms for the correct pitch data you need to process the samples you already had for all these 30ms. I don't know how Ableton does it or how iZotope's Vocal Synth 2 (also zero latency pitch correction) does it, but I would expect that they simply work with whatever data they have at the moment for the analyzed pitch. At least that's how I would do it. That means when the pitch at the input changes, the effect is working with the wrong pitch data until the FFT delivers the pitch the input is now on. That leads to the effect described in the tl;dr above.

[@losangulos]

Is the new ableton able to do that thing bitwig does where several instances of a plugin can sync to be manipulated all at once?

[@josephstearns7401]

When is this Beta gonna come to Live 12?

[@drewlarmusic]

Ableton got that DAW in it babyyyy 🔥

[@mkostya]

it’s indeed amazing feature but I still don’t get how can i fix pitch of specific notes like in melodyne

[@0711RC]

I appreciate your video and teaching skills. Thanks

[@realraven2000]

What’s missing like with most built in pitch correction is that it doesn’t go close to just intonation, it’s always doing chromatic “piano tuning”. something I am always aware of when i manually tune using variaudio, e.g. make sure you do not tune up major thirds it sounds whack they should be around 17cents - 21cents flat.

[@Tlk2Rbts]

That last bit with crystalizer would get crazt

[@bartvyvey]

Do I understand this correctly that you can basically create a complete choir starting from just one voice sample?

[@salonication2310]

Bro I have 12 suite. Need update to 2.1 to have this or is in first 12 suite version?

[@jamesaita]

First of all. Hats off to Ableton, they have done an amazing job with this new device, but thank you so much for this video. What a perfect explanation. Clear, concise, complete. This is exactly what I needed.

[@Vacated204]

It took long enough. thank fucking god! Years of using Gsnap! well worth the wait

[@jamiedouglass7643]

Keep up the great work man 👍 thank you

[@rosserikt]

Can't deal with ClyphX Pro being (presently) defunct by the update, but when you insta-harmonised by scale degrees I had to rethink my priorities in life

[@remyvegamedia]

Oh shoot I just realized! I use your Digital Preamp on every track. Will this update mess with the Saturator settings??? 😳

[@audiblejunkie8542]

This lady has a great voice

[@exogamer7787]

Is this going to be on standard or only suite

[@josipvulic5471]

adding 3 separate subtle random lfo's to the fine tuning between 3 tracks of detuned vocals would sound amazing... me bets

[@AppleKid]

You have a nice voice. I like the auto shift effect that you did in the intro. How did you do that actully?