Absolute Beginners Guide: Water & Sewage Explained | Workers & Resources Guides | Tutorial

[@ceegnz]

I love this absolute beginners guide, I was more an absolute disaster than an absolute beginner, these are helping so much ! Thank you !

[@bballjo]

Thanks! That's awesome!

[@thomaswheez]

This really helped a lot as i was struggling to figure out why i didnt had water flowing in my republic, thanks!

[@fastfiddler1625]

Great, concise, well spoken video! I have 11 hours and I'm barely keeping up. I have always wanted a city builder with this level of complexity, and I had no idea it was right here. Like the sewage thing. Quite realistic, in a simple way. In the States, those "sewage pumps" are called lift stations. It is why it's so important you don't flush diapers, "flushable wipes," feminine products, etc. A water tower can supply positive pressure to homes. But homes cannot supply positive pressure to the sewage system. It has to flow down hill. And eventually, you run out of down, so you have to pump it up to start over. And inorganic stuff can get stuck in the lifting pumps. Anyway... maybe I'll have some citizens by 20 hours. :D

[@RoamingAdhocrat]

seriously why is it legal to brand products as "flushable wipes"

[@igordega]

Thank you very much! I will soon begin to supply water to my huge republic. I hope I don't fall apart while building systems in every city at the same time.

[@bballjo]

Just turn off the settings that make this hard for a short moment, i.e. only turn on water to plan building, and turn off realistic to actually autobuild the infrastructure:)

[@rpersen]

This was awsome, thanks a lot. Loving the game, but sooo complex lol.

[@bballjo]

Happy to help!

[@gaborfeher741]

Great and helpful tutorial, thank's!

[@Lellela]

Apparently this is a part 2? Title led me to believe we'd be starting at zero with the water, as an ABSOLUTE beginner. Will come back to this when I've learned more.

[@bballjo]

Id recommend just using the playlist for this one.

[@_CJ_]

thanks. Nice summary. I just started to learn the game and this helps a lot. Playing on realistic with your tip with more start money and reasonable angry people :D Water is my topic for today so I have to fix what I messed up yesterday :))

[@bballjo]

Nice! If you need more realistic help, make sure you checkout the "how to get started in 2023" stream.

[@_CJ_]

@@bballjo I already did and it was really really heplful! Thanks for that :) I like to get a bit lost before I check tutorials/guides for better learning experience so explaining single topics a bit more in detail is very helpful to understand how to continue and what to test and try 💛

[@bballjo]

@_CJ_ perfect! That means you are my actual target audience! So tell me what you're stuck on now, maybe I can make another guide to help more like yourself:)

[@_CJ_]

@@bballjo Well, I like this format so please continue with going through all sections with tips and tricks what to use and when with and without realistic mode. I would like episode on trains (and realistic mode) - when to start with it, which trains/building to use (or your preferences), some prequisities (money, steel production or so), switching from trucks to trains... If you would like to explain signals too I would suggest to split it in multiple episodes so it is more single topic shorter videos. I checked starting episode and universities and will continue with crimes when I have some people :) I will check parts of those when I need to solve something. Cool hopefully smaller than trains topic would be forklifts (not sure if I want to use that over trucks with medium distance or so) :) But whatever floats your boat will be nice! Thank your for tutorials! It is fun to learn new stuff 💛

[@bballjo]

@_CJ_ everything you mentioned I already have a tutorial on, and those specific items really haven't changed since I made them....did you have a chance to check those out yet?

[@jakubbenes4704]

Farms - for ground water - are the biggest source of polution to this day. Im from Czech Republic and as former socialist country we had huge problems with polluted ground water because of field fertilization. In general - people tend to forget, but communist goverment was one of the biggest polluters we ever had here, "green policies" were pretty much non-existent. In general you can build a well anywhere but to get semi clean water it has to be either from mountains (without agro industry) or you need to use chemical (mostly chlorine). People tend to forget that anything the water touched before reaching undwater reservoirs stays in it - like for example cow poop from farm land :D

[@BoJack_HorseFly85]

Today's class! I wish I had this passion to learn when it comes to my job. 😂

[@IIKraftI]

Learnt a lot!

[@uncletimo6059]

again, very useful video guide.

[@MadocComadrin]

I don't think it was explicitly mentioned, but the input water quality also affects how much total water a water treatment plant can output, i.e., you can't get max flow from the treatment plant if you're doing heavy treatment. I don't know the exact numbers, but the difference in total flow from bringing the 77ish% from a surface intake to 99% compared to bringing low 90s percent from a well is significant and potentially city-killing if you don't catch it in time.

[@uncletimo6059]

I was overthinking and overcomplicating the water and sewage. At start, just a technical with small garbage truck(s) is needed. Build garbage collection points later to simplify it. And export garbage across the border. Same with water and sewage. Collection points for sewage and water, and let trucks from technical import/export from border. Later on you can become more self sufficient: Burn the trash in incinerator - make sure to have a garbage truck with big container on it to free up the incinerator plant otherwise it will get clogged up. This big trash truck goes to border, unfortunately. Sewage export at first, then unload at sewage unloading - which is connected to sewage pump - then to sewage discharge. To dump the sewage - just create an artificial lake - just dig until you hit water. The hard part is massaging the terrain to plop down the sewage discharge...... Love this game.

[@siriusczech]

No pumps for sewage needed, just let it flow down. In my (Czech) tutorial I went with discharge to a lake right away and with sewage unloading right next to a city. Then a switch nearby and a loooong pipe towards the discharge. Reason? TS near the city are saving tons of fuel by dumping at the unloading. Later on a city sewers do connect to that switch but still 1-2 trucks are kept at bay. If ANYTHING goes wrong or pipes are not finished fast enough, TS will go out and truck sewage manually to the discharge. Collection points/substation are great for saving TS lots of trips as well. And they are needed later on anyway so build them as much as you can without people and then let your first citizens finish them.

[@uncletimo6059]

@@siriusczech Well, I made a flat map. I guess I could terraform a hill and put sewage on that in the city.....

[@siriusczech]

@@uncletimo6059 even on flat map is water bellow terrain. But yes, sewage inlets on hills do help

[@jame9169]

Thanks for these, they've been a really helpful way to get into the game following the in game tutorial & campaign. Are there any resources on how to expand from this pretty well established starting town? Should I just be duplicating the same kind of template? (maybe covered in a video of yours I've not gotten to yet).

[@bballjo]

Expansion follows very similar principles...the main driving force should probably be figuring out what size you would like to support when the city is done.

[@jame9169]

@@bballjo Makes sense, thanks!

[@cubey]

so, i pretty much have to completey replumb my realistic mode town 😆 at least it won't be too bad ...

[@ronaldverweij4284]

Always a big thanks for your great video's on this game, but I can't have my sewage working properly. The land is flat, 5 meters height, and I have a few sewage points, but they are at the same height? Do I need to place pumps after each collection point to put up the pressure, or do I need landscaping to heighten the land first?

[@bballjo]

The start of the pipe has to be higher than the end... otherwise you need pumps/lifts... landscaping is fine too

[@ronaldverweij4284]

@@bballjo finally I managed it, thx).. this game is about a lot of trail and error)

[@swiftbear]

Not sure what's wrong with my sewage trucks, they go to the sewage tanks which has like 3,000 gallons in it , my truck can hold something like 2,100 gal. But it only stays to fill up like 10 gal and leaves...

[@bballjo]

@@swiftbear those numbers sound a little off...

[@swiftbear]

@@bballjo No kidding, I logged into the game to get the exact numbers and the sewage tank holds 3,170gal (and currently full) My truck I have in the technical office is a T138 which hold 2,469gal. Looking at it right now it is heading to the customs house with a whole 22 gallons in it, why will it not stay to fill the other 2,447 gallons it has room for? I dont see any way to set up loading or unloading parameters in the tech office.

[@bballjo]

I don't think the tank numbers are correct... And you should use a substation if you arent

[@swiftbear]

@@bballjo A substation for sewage?

[@bballjo]

Yes...they combine all houses in range and make collection easier, vice versa with water substations

[@NOYB11]

what do you do with sewage if there is no lake nearby? Let's say I have treatment plant that is treating sewage. What do I do with the output of it? Can I reuse that water for production somewhere? Can I dispose of it somehow? What are my options?

[@bballjo]

You have to dump it in water or export to customs house.

[@mjr7991]

I struggle with connecting pipes with the correct slope. Primarily when I need to go back and connect something new into the system. I end up having to basically delete everything back to source or dump to get everything aligned. Am I missing something or is that just how it works? Do you have a good vid on how to interpret underground pipe slopes and best places to splice in new infrastructure?

[@bballjo]

Interpret slope: use the measurement tool, you can use the topography view (F2) at the same time to get an idea. Splice in new: don't. Plan ahead and add some switches in reasonable places, but understand that the large pipe has a max throughput, and large city sewers need their own direct pipes and shouldn't be combined. Once all that is done, new infrastructure can be added with sewer pumps, they can go up to 15m deep, or you can terraform. The slope really just cares about the start and end points, so pumps in the middle are fine.

[@saltcheese]

The chemical plant and fabric factory produce waste water. Do you know how much waste water it produces per day on maximum production? Is it just all the water it uses turns into waste water?

[@bballjo]

It's water plus waste, so it's a little more, but the water and waste pipes are already sized for that, so you only match the pipe sizes

[@VelcroKittie]

I copied your video to the letter of the law, and I'm only getting 21.33 m3 water per day. I'm not sure how you managed to get yours so high. I used the exact same number of buildings, pumps, same pipe sizes etc. Now I do have 4 water towers that the purified water is making it's way to via the various pumps and switches etc, but that shouldn't effect the amount of water the actual plant is treating. I wonder where I am going wrong? edit: "We cannot store or export water" is flashing on my second small water well, and the current production per work day is going from 0.00 - 0.01. So it seems it's the well. Bizarre. It has power but it's doing that annoying quick flashing thing

[@bballjo]

It's easy to miss a thing...so pictures of the setup are probably needed

[@eimhingalvin8864]

Do I not need a pump after a switch ??? Well-pump-filtration-pump-switch-tower-switch-substation ??? Dose that work ???

[@bballjo]

Yes. Switches keep the total pressure spread across pipes, and towers can store pressure...so 1 pump on each side of filtration is enough

[@eimhingalvin8864]

@@bballjo could have saved myself aaaaaalllloooootttt of time on construction 😭😭

[@kevcole3333]

my pumps never get built. the game always says " construction is not assigned to construction office" and when i try to assign a construction office it says there is no path to it. what is deal with this? how do i build pumps????? i have to save and then place around 50 pumps to find some random place where the game finally can find a path to it. then reload and place the pump that worked.

[@bballjo]

Any passable road counts as a connection...I'm guessing you have either a disconnected road or a road that is currently under construction between the CO and the pumps.

[@kevcole3333]

@@bballjo i think they needed footpaths

[@bballjo]

Footpaths have less connectivity than roads...I don't think that would be it.

[@kevcole3333]

@@bballjo seemed to work once i put footpaths touching the roads. maybe they were too far from the road. didnt appear to be.

[@emilygordbort7300]

Well, I'm certainly dumb I just spent like 20 minutes setting up a sewage treatment plant in the hopes that I could use it to recycle water or something, and now I'm just out a shitload of money and all I have to show for it is a sewage treatment plant connected to itself I *might* still be able to make this work but I'll need to get a little custom with it and hope that importing sewage does what I think it does Edit: My sewage truck won't import waste water for whatever reason

[@bballjo]

As a rule of thumb...don't do something for the first time in your real save, always test it first.

[@emilygordbort7300]

​@@bballjoThat is a good wisdom

[@Ranjithkumar-up2bo]

❤

[@lukasyanni7316]

I always build a sewage treatment plant, just because it feels environmentally irresponsible to dump it (even though it's not real lol)

[@bballjo]

How do you justify the extra pollution for the required chemical production? ;)

[@lukasyanni7316]

@@bballjo pay no attention to the black smoke, focus on how (mostly) clean the water is!

[@JomaroTV]

i cant to much i die..... dead

[@rufus3715]

I hate this game im not new to city builders but the water problem makes me want to rip my hair out ive build 4 of everything at the same time

[@bballjo]

What do you mean??

[@rufus3715]

Il elaborate every other city builder follows this simole premise, you pump the water aka pump station and water substation and thats mean to give buildings in the area water i mean how simples that with this game im at my wits end with it

[@bballjo]

@rufus3715 if I understand you right...the well water pump is a terrible label, because it only pumps out of the ground, after that it's just gravity. You need the water pumps to pressurize the system. You can then store pressure and water in water towers, from which water can flow via gravity. So, all you need is 1 pump to move water from well to treatment plant, and 1 pump to move water from treatment plant into water tower...the rest works without pumps.

[@rufus3715]

@@bballjo il give it a go its so complicated all pipes end up like a bowl of spagetti i think il stick to skylines then im not wasting hours thinking on it

[@bballjo]

@rufus3715 CS is a great city painter. Nothing wrong with that:)

[@bignose140]

Awesome stuff thank you