ABSOLUTE DIFFICULTY IDEAS THAT GIVE ME NIGHTMARES! (Space Marine 2 Discussion) Patch 5.1

/ yeertski
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[@MisterSinister47]

Lethal 'Reliquary' is my bane. 🤣 As soon as I got my helmet I never went back to it. That whole level is just a chore. Lol

[@robertmckinney8731]

Make it like DMC5 Legendary Knights. Keep the difficulty at a good challenging range like substantial, but triple the hordes and extermins, and double the terminus each encounter.

[@Alpharius-2-0]

That could be fun

[@enzzogrimberg2692]

How it should be. No reason to 10x enemy hp

[@Nikov_Kalash]

ever notice how there are more enemies a mini bosses when u as tactical on lethal.

[@enzzogrimberg2692]

@@Nikov_Kalash ? No is that really a thing

[@wizzolo]

A single mistake in lethal is already enough to take out all your armor and half of your health, increasing damage would turn everything into a oneshot mechanic. My power sword already hits like a wet noodle, increasing enemy health would turn every enemy into a bullet sponge. they could increase the number of enemies maybe? I guess much depends on what the prestige ranks will be. IF we'll have significantly more health and damage ok sure, increase enemy health/damage, but if the prestige ranks are those that have been leaked a few weeks ago, then I don't know how I'll be able to clear absolute difficulty, particularly chaos missions. We don't know either if the new cosmetic rewards require just a single absolute mission (like the power sword) or all of them ( like the helmet).

[@patrickwebster9153]

Agreed. Best solution to a difficulty harder than lethal is to simply keep everything as is and add friendly fire.

[@warriorfire8103]

7:14 ya a lot of people aren't actually reading the roadmap. This guy doesn't even seem to understand there is no damage/health boost to the enemy from Ruthless to Lethal. The devs are adding modifiers.

[@JohnSmith13334]

A cool idea if modifiers were like darktide ‘ the Hive Mind has changed their tactics prepare for increased Tyranid activity’ and the modifier would increase gaunts with adrenal glands, reduce the amount of majoris enemies but increase their reinforcement timer and decrease the time it takes for them to call. So you’re going against hundreds and hundreds of Nids. Or maybe ‘ The arch Traitors draw on the powers of their gods beware the taint of chaos’ and you’d have a sorcerer spawning in more daemons same concept as before but reduce their health by 20%. So modifiers could be increased spawn rates but decreased health or decreased spawn rates increased damage. Maybe? Or a modifiers like I’ve said above but the bonus to squad cohesion is mitagating effects so if you’re in cohesion maybe their call timer increases or you get a buff to ammo and reload speed to help with the hordes. Cool concept. So basically, modifier - enemy spawn rates on minoris tripled, reload speed increased whilst in cohesion Or - gun strikes give ammo instead of armour Just thinking out loud

[@Greybir]

I don’t know about anyone else, but I would love a mode with tons of enemies that do t have that much health. Would be so much fun

[@YuhlemanIncorporated]

2 friends and I got SM2 in December and about a week ago beat all missions on lethal. The only mission we failed was Reliquary. You're absolutely right about it feeling like a higher difficulty 😅.

[@balazsmejzer4213]

My idea of what Absolute should be: Triple extremis spawn is back with maybe shorter cooldown, potentially two terminus spawns per mission with one guaranteed (but not two at the same time, and also count into that the end level bosses so that Decapitation, Reliquary, and Termination still only have one terminus spawn minus the end level one), up to three majoris can be enraged at any given time instead of only one, introduce enrage for extremis (with only one potentially enraged at any given time), even more reinforcement call attempts, with a successful call guaranteeing one extremis enemy spawning, even longer respawn timer or no time reduction from majoris+ kills, maybe further nerfing ammo crates size (instead of 3x max ammo only 2x or sth like that). What I think should be left as-is are player armor and health, and enemy health and damage. At this point many weapons have okay time to kill but weapons like the auto bolt rifle still need some buffs to have a purpose. And melee combat still requires some changes because it is way too passive. On the enemies side they already do enough damage to take all your armor + half your health in one hit, a further increase would be unfair.

[@namesomega3694]

My first time experience was a rotation of players leaving and coming which helped kind of prolong it ironically

[@overweightmale6066]

I’m sure it’ll be light work. Lethal is all I run with my buddy and we almost never go down or lose games. If they up the amount of spore mines during large fights tho, I’m in trouble.

[@warriorfire8103]

Hopefully they don't go nerfing Absolute difficulty prematurely. The goal seems to be introducing modifiers and such so the difficulty introduces a chaos factor or forces a play style change. Coming out in early Feb so we'll have our confirmation pretty soon. Lot of incoming player buffs too. 6.0 class perks being buffed, some weapons buffed. Will be able to trade up for relic data. 3 new weapons in coming 7.0 more weapon buffs, weapon perk buffs and prestige which are a huge class bump in power (Grenade launcher getting nerfed in some way sometime)

[@Whit3W45HED-s1p]

Anyways…keep up the good work brother. You’re my go to do SM2 content

[@ft3art]

I've been suggesting they explore injury modifiers for difficulty. Taking a significant hit could mean losing ADS, slower aiming, run walk/run speed halved to simulate limping, halved attack speed, and etc for the rest of the mission. Or a weapon breaking or getting lost, different poison effects that last the entire mission. If you've read the novels, you'd know it all of the above to happen on a battlefield. I'm also a big fan of Dante Must Die mode from DMC. Everything can kill in one or three hits equally, both the player and the enemy.

[@indeedgaminghere401]

I think my biggest issue is just that another difficulty seems like a waste in man power and resources. Another new difficulty isn’t what’s gonna make the game exciting again for majority of players. I beat Lethal so I could get the cosmetics, but I didn’t really have fun doing it. It was such a relief to play the game on ruthless and just enjoy the game. The enemies were still dangerous, but one mistake wasn’t all three of my armors and half of my health. Games are supposed to be fun, sweating is good sometimes don’t get me wrong. But I think sweating cause you’re drastically weaker than half the things you have to fight is artificial difficulty and I don’t really enjoy being weak and feeling like all my time and effort into growing lvl’s and building my character is irrelevant to 3 flying spores lol

[@GordonTyper]

I think it’s also important to realize that just because we don’t want a new difficulty level doesn’t mean we can’t clear lethal. I primarily do lethal missions. I just don’t see the need for another difficulty before they get these perk changes in and prestige system in.

[@im_a_goofy_goober9188]

Being a pve assault main I just hope we get a massive perk rework, primarily something that allows us to get health back vastly easier than being a stim feind

[@marktrader4205]

I think it’s just going to be like when the AI director went crazy and you had a triple extremis spawn during a terminus fight. Probably multiple terminus enemies throughout a level. Bigger swarms, etc. I’m ready, it’s time to deliver the wrath of the Emperor.

[@willb1405]

Emperor witness my dodge roll spam

[@marktrader4205]

@ “ROLLY POLLY, UNTIL IT IS DONE”

[@johnphillips3332]

given that after the "cohesion" stuff was removed lethal difficulty was mainly uncapping the extremis spawn limit i assume that the new difficulty is most likely to increase the spawn rates, spawn ammounts, and spawn likelihood of higher difficulty foes such as extremis and majoris, likely meaning overall more elite hordes with less minoris... however i would rather they instead simply increased ammount of minoris and majoris by like 4 or 5 times so that we have bigger swarms without being swarmed by scarab terminators (worst chaos foe) or swarmed by zoanthropes (worst tyranid foe)

[@nolongerhuman13]

Have you noticed that the snipers and lethal will often double tap you? This happens already, but imagine if they triple tap snipers would be lethal because you wouldn’t be able to roll out the way as you would come up in the middle of the third shot, you would have to roll into cover only or behind something to obscure the shot

[@ryanp5790]

The devs just weren’t smart with HOW they added things. For example, the disk shamans (in my opinion) should have been locked only to substantial difficulty and higher. That way,playing on average and minimal has a distinctly different gameplay than the other difficulties, apart from health bars, number of enemies, and damage. Having the same enemies across all difficulties, especially for the tyranids, muddies the waters and makes increasing the difficulty harder. Like at this point, unless we get new enemies, they’re just gonna turn players in glass cannons fighting hoards of bullet sponges then saying “this is harder than before, trust us.”

[@MiroGalabov]

All majors are enraged (shredders) ; 3 extremists (6 zoanthropes)

[@Nygassso]

Three Terminus per with two being guaranteed. 3 extremis squad Lictors supposedly hunt alone so, maybe one lictor with a squad of Majoris Maybe make the stims more useful, maybe a few decimal points of healing per second for 3/5 seconds after healing the normal amount that heals on Ruthless Bigger waves, like 7 to 9 Majoris with a horde of Minoris all the time, relax with the disk shamans tho because wtf Better team synergy, like making the area scanned by a tactical buff a Sniper shot or increase his damage while invisible Make a Vanguard go invisible at random when using the grapnel if the spinner has full health but the cloak is depleted or unusable Make both shields for Heavy and Bullwark last more if they’re both at 50% health (just an idea) Heavy having a rocket launcher 👀

[@troyfullum4049]

Ramp up enemy health and damage and have a modifier like Unit Cohesion to where it buffs team health, damage, and armor (thinking like the feeling we had with the banner mission in story). Make it to where the modifier isn't a requirement (you still maintain your base stats and armor regen but it will encourage you to work in cohesion to survive).

[@LOWB90]

Would be insane with an AI overhaul, like minoris and sword majoris getting in the way for you to get the sniper majoris. It is meant to be a hivemind after all.

[@Joe-fb1ox]

Absolute is just gonna be Enlightened in the place of every other enemy type Cultists? Nope 20 enlightened on screen now Tsaangor? Nope 5 enlightened now Rubric marines? Nope 10 enlightened with buffed health bars now That’s my nightmare absolute difficulty

[@zootlee8323]

The Gaunts bringing back the grenade🤣embaressed to admit how many times i died to that exact thing😅

[@daveeverett3169]

Absolute should just be Lethal but permadeath mode. 1 stim be given at the start or the operation to soften the blow

[@AudyBharksuwana]

Ok hear me out. Modifiers for custom lobbies. Base difficulty Substantial, but with same spawn rates and spawn patterns as Absolute/Lethal with ammo boxes everywhere like Minimal. Something on a slidable scale.

[@dte8561]

The new enemy shoots spore mines that’s going to be terrible

[@reneedewitt6021]

Every thing really hangs on what they do with the perks rework.

[@volcano3493]

Absolute Difficulty: You always get paired with low-level players. Have fun! :)

[@notthistime9290]

Zero desire to play on absolute difficulty. I have 700 hours into this game. More content is not repackaged missions with more enemies.

[@jaanikaapa6925]

I would have expected neurolictors, deathleapers and swarmlords. Maybe a mordax... Imagine if your team mate goes down and you can get get them up fast enough they turn into the rippers and other fun stuff. Permadeath. Been watching the clips in your videos, I think I figured out the reason for the enemies spawning on you. You're going too fast for the engine/director. The lags and such make it so that it's spawning things on top of the players.

[@terryduke6591]

Hopefully a new settings will mean they buff all weapons so the easier settings are more fun at last and some hp back on executions for all classes and classes restrictions finally removed for private pve

[@Veolfen]

How about just the same as lethal, but with friendly fire + no respawn ?

[@dpinoy5642]

With the number of people that can't aim in this game or people that kick you because you show them up, good luck trying to do anything

[@sentineloforder]

Average players: "Guys, I think the new difficulty is terrifying. Lethal is already bad enough!" Me and the boys in Death Company gear: "Up Commander, GLOARY AWAITS!"

[@burniejarvis9298]

Ruthless is where I like to play. I beat lethal on solo once and never went back. I doubt I'll bother with absolute unless I really like the cosmetics.

[@Strelitzia98]

Some weapons need some love and I think some of the weapon perks are bugged or just useless and I hope the mastery perks are actually worth it

[@curtisthornsberry4236]

Spacemarines have HUD’s

[@ThatLovableNerd]

Two terminus i feel would make some perks more viable

[@heavenbreaker3702]

New Difficulty “Friendly Fire” 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@SmartShotgun]

I don’t mind a new difficulty but they absolutely need to rework how zoanthropes work and chaos ai in general.

[@IgnisGaming-m2j]

I can't imagine they will mess with spawns, they would have gone through performance tests and settled with what works best. Plus it would probably be a fair bit of work. We all know how devs tend to do as little as they can for maximum effect, so think of the easiest way to make the game difficult and you probably won't be far off. I would go with no stims or a contested health change. I have had zero stim lethal runs, so it's possible. You need to bring your absolute best to the table. That kind of fits the difficulties name.

[@pyratepotter4850]

I play on Lethal only and I am looking forward to whatever they throw at us. We have also gone through all lethal missions using no stims and no incapacitations

[@GordonTyper]

I was the one that wrote about modifiers - you could do tons of different things. * enemies call reinforcements more often and faster; * enemies do more damage; * enemies no longer show attack indicators; * no hud; * ammo is reduced; * minoris no longer give armor. You could go as far as you want.

[@j3lly_m3lly]

it's absolutely clear to me that someone don't play on ruthless if they want no indicators, which completely goes against the spirit of a power fantasy SM franchise is about... why no 2 terminuses at once? there's 3 players, so in fact there SHOULD BE 3. it'd finally fix the issue of players interrupting my duel with a terminus. everyone gets THEIR OWN. if the 3rd player (or bot) already feels so much like an unneeded bother (which steals the attention of your targets away from you) you cannot get away from in public matches, why add the 4TH ONE?

[@nathancawley8759]

Currently the difficulty comes almost entirely from the carry-me brainrot kids loading into missions they have no business loading in to looking for free carries. I'm praying that the new difficulty prevents carries in some way, like if you go down with a mortal wound, you go back to the barge and get nothing while the other 2 continue alone (no backfill either to prevent cheese).

[@ryanrobinson9890]

Honestly, why they have patched in level caps for difficulties to prevent low levels from joining into higher difficulty tiers is beyond me 🤷‍♂️

[@darkz1820]

just leave it as it and put in the modifers if you want a it harder like they did in wwz

[@averageeughenjoyer6429]

Two neurothropes who shield eachother

[@CraZCougar03]

LET'S GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[@ShadowGuard419]

Thank the emperor lethal has become so easy I've modded spawns to make it harder

[@PopeMcGrope]

Nah, to be forged in the fires of war and unto the anvil of battle. No battle too daunting, No Victory too Sweet. Give me all the Zoanthropes, throw the spore swarms in too. Make it a cross enemy op like vox 🥰

[@filipbiskup1710]

I don't play space Maris until salamader chapter pack don't get out I don't need to grind so on the shelf till I have at least 20 h of some new content

[@dropzofcrimzon]

I run every day a chaos conditioning operation on ruthless solo. It is obelisk. The reason why is because that operation will throw everything chaos as to offer at you within the first 10 minutes from mobs to extremis to the helbrute. How do you think I got good enough to solo him without taking damage? You want to run the operation until the tomb and then restart it. I do this once a day until I fight the helbrute without taking damage on ruthless and then go back to tyranid operations. I expressed my opinions on the new difficulty in your previous video call my I hope it is all about modifiers and adapting to substantially increased power due to the Prestige classes. I am not bad at the game, I am surely not a pro even though I can likely bulwark with the best by now and I know you can see I have my lethal helmet but I really do not want each season or each other season to be highlighted by yet another even sweatier level of difficulty. Just add more contents, more mechanics, new things as opposed to artificially increasing the difficulty in arbitrary ways. Just my two cents

[@Zed88a]

I hope they d not nerf that this time let the ppl cry let the ppl learn let the ppl play hard

[@handsomejack395]

I'd make major enemies hit faster and I'd add new combos for them

[@davidduane3182]

Patch 6 will break everything, 6.1 will make it playable again.

[@Zabijaka87]

How about making game more fun than difficult. Let sadomaso ppl go play Elder Ring or something.

[@badaboom1o187]

You think add Orks and tau and drak Eldar to fight agent.

[@mrwest4905]

Call me crazy, but I’m looking forward to the challenge….

[@mattmelton7389]

Hear me out: extremis disc shaman variant.

[@Yeertski]

Lmao oh no.

[@roxy8977]

Increased number of enemies and Space Marines got more HP and firepower (not that "10%" shit) would be nice.

[@Ktctwin]

No no no, Vox is easiest mission. Inferno is hardest for me.

[@yaboysavoie4777]

I am so ready for this new difficulty. Give me multiple terminus enemies, unlimited zoanthropes… sounds like a party. Banging my head against the wall trying to accomplish something hard in this game can genuinely be fun.

[@wilfredwayne7139]

It's not balanced well enough for lethal let alone another one on top of that. Not worth it for me to run for a shoulder pad and a skin for a weapon I literally never use.

[@cardiff1582]

New difficulty Idea: Your Marine is Randomized from your pool of unlocked weapons & perks.

[@mrself5824]

Blackout, just make it extremely midnight dark. Can’t see 10 meters in front of you, kinda like in the obelisk maze.

[@panzerlurch2629]

Game isn't fun anyway. Becomes so frustrating on high difficulties. Instead of more enemies or more bigger enemies (like in Helldivers), they just became bullet sponges. I mean: 50bullets from the Heavy Bolter ON the head of a major tyrannid and that thing isn't dead?!? Yeah, totally ruins my immersion I am playing a Space Marine with a devestating gun.🤦🏻‍♂️

[@Nikov_Kalash]

bring back tether

[@Vulcanfaux]

You should fear higher difficulties. Makes those compelled to overcome them feel extra satisfied when they do. I mean it's why the souls series is loved, it's why people like nightmare difficulty in doom. Legendary in halo, and why people wish there was a higher difficulty for games like pokemon. Not every one wants challenge, but those of us that do greet it with a smile.

[@jamesestrada3660]

L complaining from people that don't actively do Lethals or help others. The new difficulty IS NOT for people that have to put on their best thinking cap for Ruthless. It's for people that carry low levels through them or Solo clear Lethals 🤷

[@godblesstexas6773]

Auto bolt worst gun in game not even close

[@stephenbennett6108]

Not afraid of it but still haven't finished Lethal on 4 of the maps

[@The_Nigerian_Space_Marine]

i welcome the new difficulty, been grinding lethal since i got the news, imagine having a no hud and a bunch of lithols around you that would be insane, plus remmember this is the grim dark. you cant complain. Remmeber the emperor protects

[@moreauclement9702]

New weapons ? No, one new weapon. And as ot stand its not that important if the weapon is so underpowered like most bolt weapon and are never played. I play almost only lethal, and i never see a tac without the launcher or a vanguard without the melta. We have enough weapon. But they are not all worth using

[@warriorfire8103]

3 new weapons incoming. Several existing getting buffed in 6.0 update, lots more getting buffed in 7.0 update. Don't worry, GL is being nerfed. So no more GL crutches.

[@Whit3W45HED-s1p]

Five minutes into my rant about just playing the game for fun vs sweating for challenge. And how the hardcore should appreciate the casual and so on you video was taken down before I could comment. 🥲

[@Yeertski]

I really apologize about that. It was an upload mistake lol.

[@Whit3W45HED-s1p]

No worries

[@warriorfire8103]

So why can't I have a new difficulty? I can't find your post so I'm not sure what you're getting at.