Abu Lahab will enter hell?! (

[@daxvanderwal]

Do you think this prophecy demonstrates the Quran is from God? Can you prove that Abu Lahab is in hell? Do you think there is a better prophecy in the Quran?

[@lawyer73]

I don't see this specific surah as a prophesy. The hell is something that awaits Abu Lahab and his wife after their death. Clear prophesy is following verse: ""And with truth, We have made the Quran easy to remember; who, then, is willing to take it to heart?" (Quran 54:17) Quran is the only revelation which is massively memorised, its not the Bible, or Tora, or Veda. There are tens of millions of Muslims in each generation, and of all ages who know whole Quran. Children of age 7 learn whole Quran, just in one year. So, how is it possible, and why should someone learn whole book. Its simply because it was made easy to do by God Almighty. And that's the real miracle and prophesy which is happening during 1400 years after Quran was revealed.

[@daxvanderwal]

@@lawyer73 Hey! Another Muslim said they don't take this as a prophesy as well. I'm fine with that, it just means Surah 111 is not evidence for the miraculous nature of the Quran. In terms of Q54:17 I will make a video about this idea! It's a fun idea to talk about. The first problem I see is that it just says the Quran is easy to memorize... this is more like an observation and less like an actual prediction. It doesn't predict "millions of people will memorize this book" or "children will learn the whole thing by age 7". It just says it is easy to memorize. And just because a book is easy to memorize doesn't therefore mean it's from God. So I struggle to see how this is an actual prophesy. Let me know what you think.

[@lawyer73]

@@daxvanderwal I don't see any prophesy in mentioned surah. Regarding Surah 54:17, it is instruction given by God that His Quran is and will be easy to be memorised. This is something that is and was confirmed as true during last 1400, and since it is coming true until now it is a clear prophesy. I don't know if you have some basic knowledge of Arabic language, but I can tell you my experience and experience of many Muslims I know, who are not Arabs, but who learned Arabic alphabet very fast and started reading and learning Quran very fast. It is eased very much. Miracle is that a kid of 7 year, younger or older, who does not know Arabic language, memorise whole Quran in 1 year, longer or shorter time, and still does not know Arabic language, but knows total Quran, and pronounce every word in Quran like Arab, and even better. Why should someone memorise whole book instead doing something else, much easier. Then you see it is divine inspiration. And regarding prophesy, God in the Old testament has put only one condition for prophesy to be treated as true, and it is that prophesy really happen, fulfils, as it is clearly mentioned in Deuteronomy 18:21)

[@hotstonemedia376]

Abu Lahab is not in hell yet, that happens after the day of judgment. prophecy not yet fulfilled. the verses are seen as more of a miracle by people at the time because Abu Lahab had 10 years to easily disprove the Quran and the whole concept simply by saying I believe even if it is a lie. ---- sorry, I have written the above message before watching your video completely. looks like you have a valid point.

[@daxvanderwal]

@@Toronado2 how am I being tricky? In Mark 14:62 Jesus literally predicts a future event, in Q54:17 nothing is being predicted... no tricks here. And Jesus is making a prediction about the end times, of course it hasn't happened yet. This just means the Mark 14:62 prophesy isn't testable. This does not mean it's false.

[@khadarabdi6919]

There are many prophecies in the quran and you choose the simplest one. How about the following. 1. Preservation of Pharoah body 2. Conquest of Roman and Pasrsian land when population of Islam was only few hundred people. 3. Spread of Islam from east to West. 4. Spread of knowledge and use of paper and pen. Etc. How about scientific miracles of quran. 1. The two seas, one salty and othe sweets not mixing. 2. Debth of mountains and their role. 3. Human embrology 4. Unique of finger print. 5. The protection of sky from radiation 6. Orbit of sun and solar system 7. Formation of rain 8. The big bank 9. How bees make money and which bees makes the honey. 10. The human chromosomes and the role of woman on sex of the baby. And many more

[@daxvanderwal]

Hey! I'm responding to one's that Muslim Apologists use. If you don't think MuslimLantern should use this prophecy then make sure to tell him it's weak. I want to respond to the best Islam has to offer, so thank you for leaving this message. The next prophesy I will respond to is the Roman prophecy in Q30:1-5 (sounds like this is the strongest prophecy in the Quran) and after that I was going to respond to how the Quran is easy to memorize (Q54). I am doing a whole separate series on scientific miracles after this one! So I will definitely get to the top scientific claims in the Quran. They aren't technically prophecies so I didn't include them in this series.

[@nazirkhan2141]

You are not sincere your quest

[@daxvanderwal]

@@nazirkhan2141 okay, then don't watch my videos.

[@markorbit4752]

@@nazirkhan2141 Have you ever studied any religion apart from islam?

[@amirrulnazrin2220]

The miracle: the Quranic verse mentioning abu lahab will not accept islam & will be in hell was revealed 10 years before he died. What is the miracle here? The miracle is abu lahab could simply pretend that he accepted islam, thus proving the prophecy of that verse to be wrong (unfulfilled prophecy). But in 10 years until he died, he didnt accept islam. Imagine, how can this prophecy remain accurate after considering abu lahab had 10 years of chance to prove this verse is wrong by just simply pretending to accept islam? Praise be to Allah the allknowing.

[@daxvanderwal]

Hey! I appreciate you explaining, but this argument still has the logical problems of MuslimLantern's argument. 1. The verses don't say he won't accept Islam, they say he will enter hell - Abu had no ability to refute this. 2. This is an argument from silence. This claim is a miracle because some guy who didn't like Islam never faked a conversion? How in the world does that lead to the conclusion of "miracle"? His silence doesn't prove anything. We need actual evidence of the prophecy coming true.

[@daxvanderwal]

Listen to my example again at 13:00 to hear an example

[@hoxxcho]

Someone who receives the truth and still rejects it and dies without becoming a muslim, he goes to hellfire Meaning since he didnt accept, and died it means he is definitely in hellfire He was fighting so much against islam, he just could declare his shahada (honest or not) and pretend to be a muslim, and that would prove to the people around that the quran is wrong However if that happened maybe the prophet would say or another quran verse would be revealed explaining that this guy is just pretending, he is fake and he goes to hellfire So i dont know if this is really a solid proof, but the quran was right nonetheless

[@learnwithmustan]

Because he was a disbeliever...He rejected the verses...

[@godisgoodallthetime3168]

😂😂😂😂So muslim that, that converted to islam, but hiding from the family to be know that she or he christian, is miracle?,, 😂😂😂😂😂😂the prophecy, u will be in hell if u don't accept Jesus Christ as, your Lord and your savior., from ur heart, the miracle you will be save from hell when you die,.

[@HHasan-of2vi]

If anyone want to know about Christianity please read these books. 1. The brother of Jesus and the lost teachings of Christianity by Prof.Jeffrey Butz. 2. Paul vs James the battle that shaped Christianity and changed the world by Dr.Barrie Wilson. 3. Paul and Jesus by Prof.James Tabor. 4. Jesus Dynasty by Prof.James Tabor. 5. Parting of ways by Prof.James Dunn. 6. Unity and Diversity in The New Testament by Prof.James Dunn.

[@daxvanderwal]

Thanks for your recommendations!

[@irant1754]

Hello Dax, I would like to answer your question. You asked "how do we know Abu Lahab is in Hell"? So before I answer I need to add a little point; technically no one's entered Paradise or Hellfire yet. That is an event that will happen after the Day of Judgement. But we can be sure of who is absolutely destined for Hellfire. How can we be sure? Because Allah says that Paradise is only for the Muslims and the Believers of Allah. Therefore if you reject Allah, or any of his Prophets, then you are automatically labeled a disbeliever (kafir). And if you are a disbeliever, Paradise is forbidden for you. And Abu Lahab was an avid disbeliever and he never accepted Muhammad as a Prophet, neither did his wife. Therefore even though they're not in Hell yet, they will be after the Day of Judgement. This is what is decreed, that is why we know that Abu Lahab is one of the residents of Hellfire. Edit: And more to the point, when Allah said that Abu Lahab will surely enter Hellfire for eternity, it is obvious that He meant that Abu Lahab will not accept Islam. Why? Because any one that has accepted Islam will go to Heaven eventually, as long as they are Muslim. Let me make a sort of graph: According to Islamic Theology, Eternal Hellfire is only for those who haven't accepted Islam --> Allah says Abu Lahab will be a resident of the Hellfire eternally --> Therefore Allah is saying that Abu Lahab will not accept Islam (basically an axiom) --> Abu Lahab did not accept Islam --> Prophecy fulfilled. another way to represent this; No Islam = Eternal Hellfire Abu Lahab = Eternal Hellfire Therefore; Abu Lahab = No Islam. That is the claim, and Abu Lahab did not accept Islam, so prophesy fulfilled, claim validated. (this is the best I could do it's difficult explaining this over a comment lol)

[@irant1754]

Okay I just watched the whole video and you said something interesting "Even if Abu Lahab became Muslim, he probably could've still gone to hell" and yes, you are right about that; but even if he was the worst Muslim but still didn't do anything that takes him out of the fold of Islam, then the punishment in hellfire for him is only temporary, and Allah loves him, because Allah loves the believers. But look at the wording of the Surah: "Perish the hands of Abu Lahab, Perish he". Allah is literally cursing him, and saying that Abu Lahab will PERISH. That is a very severe way to get the point across. The severity of the verse alone just shows how Allahs wrath is clearly against Abu Lahab, and Allah would not curse him this severely if he were to eventually become a Believer. Because if he would in some point in the future Believe in Allah, then Allah would know it, so Allah wpuldn't condemn him this harshly and on top of everything send that condemnation as a Revelation of the Qur'an. Even for his wife; Allah says "a twisted rope of fiber around her neck". These words hold weight. So if Abu Lahab or his wife became Muslims, this Prophecy would be null, and it is the easiest way to disprove Islam for them. And about the football teams, you didn't become a Raven fan (or even act like one) because you couldn't care less about what your friend "prophecised". It would hold no benefit for you in any way, and neither does it hold any significance for you to try to disprove so hard. This wasn't the case for Islam. It was rapidly expanding and becoming a very major group, and Abu Lahab was very keen on destroying everything Prophet Muammad S.A.W. is building up. So he would take even the smallest chance at disproving this ideology. His silence wasn't just silence, it was him denying himself immediate victory in a battle that lasted more than 9 years. That's why it's so baffling and miraculous. Side note: Who knows, maybe something might change and you'd be a Raven fan ;)

[@IrfanRashid-sw2yr]

@@irant1754 @daxvanderwal nice reply. and just to add to it which muslim lantern added was that even if Abu Lahab said that he accepted Islam without even really meaning it, it would have been sufficient to disprove the Quran. Also need to see the context at the time when people were accepting Islam, a lot of other tough opponents accepted islam and at the conquest of Makkah most of the them accepted Islam, it could have been anyway that Abu lahab and his wife did the same but they didn't. I suggest you look at other prophecies also which will show you that this was not a once off guess or fluke or as you said once not a Raven fan will never be a Raven's fan, Flukes/guess will go wrong once or more, and you will find that not its not the case with Quran or Hadith.

[@IrfanRashid-sw2yr]

@daxvanderwal also bit confusing you at the start of the video said and you read the passage stating that he will be put in hell, and then later you kept looking for proof of him being in hell.. and to show that all disbelievers will be hellfire see chapter9, verse 68. "Allah has promised the hypocrites, both men and women, and the disbelievers an everlasting stay in the Fire of Hell-it is sufficient for them. Allah has condemned them, and they will suffer a never-ending punishment." Now if you want to see the proof of him entering physically in the hellfire, you will have to wait till the judgment day. and lastly if you think that the prophecy was about him in the hellfire, then I beg to differ, the prophecy was him not accepting Islam as per the criterion laid out by Islam to be bailed out of hellfire and enter heaven is someone accepting Islam.

[@daxvanderwal]

@@IrfanRashid-sw2yr how would Abu Lahab accepting Islam disprove the Quran when the prediction is simply that he would go to hell?

[@daxvanderwal]

@@IrfanRashid-sw2yr hey man, thanks for your response. The verses literally say hellfire, not becoming a Muslim. I'm getting that from the passage, where in the passage does it specify not accepting Islam? If you say he is in hell because he was not a Muslim, that logic works ONLY if you first assume the truth of Islam. This is circular reasoning. So all I'm saying is this is not a convincing prophecy for the divine nature of the Quran, because you have to already assume it is Allah's words.

[@wholestory_]

The fact that the Quran is a miracle does not negate the fact that the Messenger Muhammad, peace and blessings be upon him, had miracles, like his predecessors among the messengers and prophets, such as the miracle of splitting the moon and others, but those miracles were intended for the people who lived in that era, such as the miracles of Moses and Jesus, peace be upon them, which were intended for those who witnessed them. For example, we both believe in the miraculous birth of Jesus, peace be upon him, so how will we prove that to an atheist living in our time? How will we prove other miracles such as reviving the dead? That is why the last of the prophets had to come with an eternal miracle until the end of time. The Quran is a miracle not only because of the prophecies, but the prophecies are part of many aspects, for example: its writing style that is unmatched by any book in the Arabic language, the way it was preserved, unlike previous books, scientific and historical facts that were not known, the ideal laws and legislation for all the problems of the era, future prophecies, free of any contradiction or error. Imagine an illiterate man in the desert 14 centuries ago, It speaks in all fields of science, geology, biology, space sciences, medicine... and there is no error or contradiction, unlike the Holy Book which is full of scientific errors, numerical contradictions, etc. So in order to understand the miracle of the Qur’an, it must be understood in its entire context.

[@mustafakareem6123]

Chapter 30, about rhe romans, is y far my favorite prophecy

[@mustafakareem6123]

I literally just finished the video, and you said you were going to look at that next video lol

[@Zzzzyv3kc]

that is what Abu Lahab hoped for 10 years this verse was revealed before Abu Lahab died

[@daxvanderwal]

okay. How is this an impressive prophecy?

[@ashrafismail1274]

@@daxvanderwal 28:56 You surely cannot guide whoever you like ˹O Prophet˺, but it is Allah Who guides whoever He wills, and He knows best who are ˹fit to be˺ guided.

[@daxvanderwal]

@@ashrafismail1274 I don't blame you for quoting the Quran in this way because you believe it is a miracle. But, is how do you know the Quran is the word of God? That's what I'm trying to figure out. So, if you have evidence showing the divine origin of the Quran then please let me know.

[@ashrafismail1274]

@@daxvanderwal prophecies noun: prophecy; plural noun: a prediction of what will happen in the future. Not your 5 point criterion. This is being disingenuous. Any ways Here is a prophecy from the prophet in his time to his people who reported it. Anas ibn Mālik (rA) reported that, as the Battle of Mu’tah was taking place in Jordan, the Prophet ﷺ informed the people in Madinah of the martyrdom of Zayd ibn Ḥārithah, Ja‘far ibn Abī Ṭālib, and ‘Abdullāh ibn Rawāḥah. Even though they were 600 miles away, the Prophet ﷺ said, “Zayd took the flag [as commander] and was killed, then Ja‘far took the flag and was killed, then Ibn Rawāḥah took the flag and was killed.” Anas describes that as the Prophet ﷺ was telling them this, “his eyes were shedding tears.” He ﷺ continued, “Then the flag was taken by one of God’s swords [Khālid ibn al-Walīd], and Allah made him victorious.” 15 That army eventually returned to Madinah, with eyewitness accounts that matched exactly what the Prophet ﷺ had described.

[@nakinaki7991]

​@@daxvanderwalIf you are in doubt about the revelation We have sent down to Our servant, then produce a single chapter like it, and call upon your helpers besides God, if you are truthful. (Bakara 2:23)

[@Dongyuuu]

go talk to him, he's always free for a conversation.

[@ahmedhamdy7596]

I got to watch a video of this channel last year , and on his introduction video he stated that "he's trying to find the truth". Fast forward to this day I got one of his videos recommended . As I checked some of the videos since he began. I'm very skeptical of his purpose. All of his videos are subtly trying to refute miracles in the quran while claiming he's still not conviced. I think from day one of his channel he had already made his verdict on Islam. In my opinion its a waste of time trying to give some content and arguments to check. May Allah guide him.

[@daxvanderwal]

You can think what you want my friend. I was transparent from the beginning that I am a Christian and that I believe Christianity is true. But I wanted to see if there's any evidence of Muhammad being a prophet. So far, the evidence is lacking and I am very unimpressed with these arguments. You're going to just accuse me of being insincere but I would accuse you of the same thing. If anything, we should focus on the actual arguments. Respond to my claims if you can.

[@ahmedhamdy7596]

@@daxvanderwal if as you say evidence is lacking , you are unimpressed and you believe Christianity is true; why bother continuing checking on islam for almost 2 years now and you are still not convinced

[@daxvanderwal]

@@ahmedhamdy7596 because I haven't examined all the evidence. I still have to study the scientific miracles, the literary excellence, the test of inimitability, the character of Muhammad, etc.

[@ahmedhamdy7596]

@@daxvanderwal In my opinion, the best thing to do is to get in contact with a scholar or someone who is always in contact with scholars like the muslim lantern and ask about all your notes. Failing to do so I'm afraid that you will keep wandering around for a long time. Alsalam alaikom.

[@damhood2033]

10:40 From Muhammad and any Muslims' s perspective , going to hellfire is a direct implication that he won't become a Muslim. Meaning the claim of going to hell fire is synonymous to being an infidel. Although statistically, this prophecy had a 50/50 chance of being fulfilled, especially that his uncle seemed to be actively against Islam so it is not too risky to predict he'll die a non-Muslim. The question now would be:" Would Muhammad be willing to take the risk, even not an extremely likely but quite possible one, to make such a prediction?" also, whether all of his predictions were fulfilled or not can also factor into seeing them as prophecies or mere guesses.

[@daxvanderwal]

thanks for sharing your thoughts. I can see how Muslims would take this as Abu Lahab being an infidel. Personally, I still don't find this to me a very impressive prophecy (mainly for the 50/50 statistic you mentioned). The most that could be said is that he took a risk... but jumping from that to "there's no way a human could have made this prediction" seems unwarranted to me.

[@chernojalloh768]

Your questions don’t make sense. Your understanding of him going to hell is not because of not becoming a Muslim, it’s because of his actions. Please get it right. A lot of people of that time refused to believe but a message like this was not sent to the prophet pbh.

[@8866rosie]

yup

[@daxvanderwal]

Okay, so how do you know he is in hell?

[@mustafakareem6123]

If you dont find chapter 30 sufficient, take a look at the ancient Egyptian history and hieroglyphic prophecies 👍

[@mustafakareem6123]

I guess technically this would be a miracle rather than prophecy because it happened before. I recommend the one about the conquering of Constantinople, considering small size and strength of Islam at the time, an outrageous claim. the one about the earth puking treasures onto the Muslim, (a little bit of a stretch but this could also be said that this predicts that oil will be of value), the competition of building tall buildings of Arabs, the wide spreading of interest, which predicts not only that, but also that we will move away from precious metals as currency because otherwise u cant have large loans, let alone wide spread usary. another good one is in 28:85, hard to explain but look into it, the Muslims wanted to go back to mecca after the hijrah and they made a deal with the meccans in the favor of the meccans, and Allah promised the Muslims that they will return, without battle, and they won't have to be in fear of the meccans attacking them, this would be impossible unless somehow the majority of meccans magically stopped disliking Islam and Muhammad, and "magic" did indeed occur, mecca converted to Islam (the more u look into this one the cooler it is with the subtle).

[@daxvanderwal]

@@mustafakareem6123 I appreciate the recommendation! Where does the Quran talk about this stuff?

[@mustafakareem6123]

(thanks for responding and being sincere btw, heavily commend you) sorry, it seems I failed to mention these are mostly in Hadith, except the one about Muslims reclaiming mecca, and the ones about ancient Egypt. the mecca one is heavily historically based so it's not like the Quran covers everything about it, you have to look at history and Hadith as well, so I don't think this one would be one that fits your criteria of it being Quranic, if you want, I highly recommend it. however the pharaohonic miracles are VAST. Some examples: Quran 44:29 “Neither sky nor earth wept over them, nor was their fate delayed.” referring to the claim that the sky and earth cried for pharaoh after his death in hieroglyphs, so either Muhammad knew how to read them, or this adds to his claims of prophet good (source of statement in hieroglyphs: 1365c. The sky weeps for thee; the earth trembles for thee;. from sacred-texts.com/egy/pyt/pyt33.htm not sure if u can open the link lol sorry.) Another direct response and mention of ancient Egyptian beliefs only now known about through the ability to read hieroglyphics through the Rosetta stone is in chapter 79 verse 24: “[pharaoh] saying, “I am your lord, the most high!”” now we know that the pharaoh at the time of Moses (most likely Ramses II) was crowned divinity with 2 idols, and this same pharaoh’s body is preserved, further agreeing with the quran (10:92): “Today We will preserve your corpse so that you may become an example1 for those who come after you. And surely most people are heedless of Our examples!””. there are some more ones about ancient Egypt but I'd like to point out a common argument (I haven't seen you make it, and honestly from the videos ive watched of you, u seem to be pretty unbiased, honest, and respectful, i HEAVILY commend you for that, honestly when i first clicked on you video I thought either u were one of those Christians who pretends to find the Quran super interesting and act like your going to convert for as long as you can to keep that fame, or that you were an apologist who would use the same recycled worn through arguments). but the thing I wanted to address is that yes, SOME of the things and the miracles Muhammad has claimed have been said by others, but that doesn't disprove them. it's not like he had every saying from everyone in history, and even if he did, how come he only took the correct things, there is a website that has every combination of 20 letters or something like that, so it has every sentence ever spoken in English, so you could quite literally find everything I wrote, but that doesn't discredit what I said, nor does it discredit everything you say because technically every word and sentence youve use is in there. with so much info he would have to pick and choose, and he was always right. but back to the point with this new establishment that even though perhaps others have claimed the same stuff, he claimed more, and was never wrong, I would like to present a couple more “miracles” (not prophecies like you're searching for though). Quran 21:30: “Do the disbelievers not realize that the heavens and earth were ˹once˺ one mass then We split them apart? And We created from water every living thing. Will they not then believe?” “Water is of major importance to all living things.” - United States Geological Survey (USGS) Quran 21:32 “And We have made the sky a well-protected canopy, still they turn away from its signs.” The atmosphere was discovered around 1674. - University Corporation for Atmospheric Research (UCAR) Quran 21:33: “And He is the One Who created the day and the night, the sun and the moon-each traveling in an orbit.” “The Sun orbits the center of the Milky Way.” - National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA) Quran 41:11: “Then He directed Himself to heaven while it was smoke and said to it and to the earth, "Come [into being], willingly or by compulsion." They said, "We have come willingly."” “The Earth formed over 4.6 billion years ago out of a mixture of dust and gas around the young sun.” - University of Chicago. Quran 57:25: “Indeed, We sent Our messengers with clear proofs, and with them We sent down the Scripture and the balance ˹of justice˺ so that people may administer justice. And We sent down iron with its great might, benefits for humanity, and means for Allah to prove who ˹is willing to˺ stand up for Him and His messengers without seeing Him. Surely Allah is All-Powerful, Almighty.” Iron was formed in space, and landed on earth. - (I couldn’t find a source with enough dramatic effect). Quran 10:5: “He is the One Who made the sun a radiant source and the moon a reflected light, with precisely ordained phases, so that you may know the number of years and calculation ˹of time˺. Allah did not create all this except for a purpose. He makes the signs clear for people of knowledge.” “The Moon does not make its own light -”moonlight” is actually reflected sunlight.” - National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA) Quran 51:47: “We built the universe with ˹great˺ might, and We are certainly expanding ˹it˺.” The universe’s expansion was discovered in 1929. ​@@daxvanderwal

[@mustafakareem6123]

​@@daxvanderwal(thanks for responding and being sincere btw, heavily commend you) sorry, it seems I failed to mention these are mostly in Hadith, except the one about Muslims reclaiming mecca, and the ones about ancient Egypt. the mecca one is heavily historically based so it's not like the Quran covers everything about it, you have to look at history and Hadith as well, so I don't think this one would be one that fits your criteria of it being Quranic, if you want, I highly recommend it. however the pharaohonic miracles are VAST. Some examples: Quran 44:29 “Neither sky nor earth wept over them, nor was their fate delayed.” referring to the claim that the sky and earth cried for pharaoh after his death in hieroglyphs, so either Muhammad knew how to read them, or this adds to his claims of prophet good (source of statement in hieroglyphs: 1365c. The sky weeps for thee; the earth trembles for thee;. from sacred-texts.com/egy/pyt/pyt33.htm not sure if u can open the link lol sorry.) Another direct response and mention of ancient Egyptian beliefs only now known about through the ability to read hieroglyphics through the Rosetta stone is in chapter 79 verse 24: “[pharaoh] saying, “I am your lord, the most high!”” now we know that the pharaoh at the time of Moses (most likely Ramses II) was crowned divinity with 2 idols, and this same pharaoh’s body is preserved, further agreeing with the quran (10:92): “Today We will preserve your corpse so that you may become an example1 for those who come after you. And surely most people are heedless of Our examples!””. there are some more ones about ancient Egypt but I'd like to point out a common argument (I haven't seen you make it, and honestly from the videos ive watched of you, u seem to be pretty unbiased, honest, and respectful, i HEAVILY commend you for that, honestly when i first clicked on you video I thought either u were one of those Christians who pretends to find the Quran super interesting and act like your going to convert for as long as you can to keep that fame, or that you were an apologist who would use the same recycled worn through arguments). but the thing I wanted to address is that yes, SOME of the things and the miracles Muhammad has claimed have been said by others, but that doesn't disprove them. it's not like he had every saying from everyone in history, and even if he did, how come he only took the correct things, there is a website that has every combination of 20 letters or something like that, so it has every sentence ever spoken in English, so you could quite literally find everything I wrote, but that doesn't discredit what I said, nor does it discredit everything you say because technically every word and sentence youve use is in there. with so much info he would have to pick and choose, and he was always right. but back to the point with this new establishment that even though perhaps others have claimed the same stuff, he claimed more, and was never wrong, I would like to present a couple more “miracles” (not prophecies like you're searching for though). Quran 21:30: “Do the disbelievers not realize that the heavens and earth were ˹once˺ one mass then We split them apart? And We created from water every living thing. Will they not then believe?” “Water is of major importance to all living things.” - United States Geological Survey (USGS) Quran 21:32 “And We have made the sky a well-protected canopy, still they turn away from its signs.” The atmosphere was discovered around 1674. - University Corporation for Atmospheric Research (UCAR) Quran 21:33: “And He is the One Who created the day and the night, the sun and the moon-each traveling in an orbit.” “The Sun orbits the center of the Milky Way.” - National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA) Quran 41:11: “Then He directed Himself to heaven while it was smoke and said to it and to the earth, "Come [into being], willingly or by compulsion." They said, "We have come willingly."” “The Earth formed over 4.6 billion years ago out of a mixture of dust and gas around the young sun.” - University of Chicago. Quran 57:25: “Indeed, We sent Our messengers with clear proofs, and with them We sent down the Scripture and the balance ˹of justice˺ so that people may administer justice. And We sent down iron with its great might, benefits for humanity, and means for Allah to prove who ˹is willing to˺ stand up for Him and His messengers without seeing Him. Surely Allah is All-Powerful, Almighty.” Iron was formed in space, and landed on earth. - (I couldn’t find a source with enough dramatic effect). Quran 10:5: “He is the One Who made the sun a radiant source and the moon a reflected light, with precisely ordained phases, so that you may know the number of years and calculation ˹of time˺. Allah did not create all this except for a purpose. He makes the signs clear for people of knowledge.” “The Moon does not make its own light -”moonlight” is actually reflected sunlight.” - National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA) Quran 51:47: “We built the universe with ˹great˺ might, and We are certainly expanding ˹it˺.” The universe’s expansion was discovered in 1929.

[@mustafakareem6123]

​@@daxvanderwallmk if u can see the comment I sent, I checked back and it was gone, I re-sent it and I don't see it anymore, perhaps it was too long, or it loading, just lmk

[@BlackSwanGamingTGK]

Lets just say “ Welcome to the biggest family in the world “ keep searching and listening

[@daxvanderwal]

what?

[@mnf089]

Question where did you get the guidelines for your prophecies.

[@daxvanderwal]

I looked up what criteria Christians and Muslims generally use, and then compiled a list that makes the most sense to me. The Bible and the Quran don't give a specific list, so I mainly used what other apologists say and my own reason. If you object to any of them or think some of them are unfair, I would love to hear your thoughts.

[@asdklop6]

I really don’t know what is the point of this video if you really sincerely ask and seeking understanding you should go to the Muslim lantern and ask him openly he’s known to make livestreams regularly to answer questions so go and present your questions and you will get the answers because you not seeing the full picture I’d love to see you present your arguments to Muslim lantern or any scholar Muslims always open to discussions

[@daxvanderwal]

I know your heart is in the right place but just because someone doesn't hop on a livestream doesn't mean that person isn't sincere... this is how most of KZbin works. He made claims and I made a response video. If there is something wrong in my argument or I misrepresented him then please point out where. You have the ability to assess the arguments even if we aren't talking live.

[@elamine9094]

​@@daxvanderwal what i have seen from all the responds you given to others, you are very defensive. Most of you responds arent neutral as someone seeking the truth. Your responds are like someone trying to dismiss the islamic view/answer using your own christian biasis. You are very quick to "disprove" or to fault any answer people give.

[@hambatu2970]

The point of this video is simple, views, comments and to monetized this

[@daxvanderwal]

@@elamine9094 I defend what is true... if a Muslim gave an argument that didn't commit circular reasoning then I would accept it. Me pointing out fallacies isn't me being insincere, in fact, it would be insincere of me to pretend like these Muslim arguments are logical.

[@daxvanderwal]

@@hambatu2970 the point is to see if there's any convincing prophecies in the Quran... just listen to the intro ;)

[@lightsf9771]

Please go there, verify, resurrect yourself and let us know.

[@daxvanderwal]

what? The resurrection of Jesus is all the evidence we need.

[@nazirkhan2141]

​@@daxvanderwal A different srandard for you, because u even cannot prove that he was born of virgin

[@daxvanderwal]

@@nazirkhan2141 Yes I can, if the resurrection is true then the Bible is true

[@mianhealthcarecenter5411]

If Abu Lahab Accept islam and then go to paradise and not enter in hell, who can say Abu Lahab can either go to Paradise or in Hell if he become Muslim.?? But if you accept Islam, and your sins are more then your noble deeds then you first go to hell after cleansing your sins, you will finally go to Paradise. But if you not accept Islam and die then you remain in hellfire forever. That is why it is prophecy.❤️💯 Hope you understand.

[@sheetmetal273]

You should join his live and talk to him have a Convo that would be really interesting

[@ليمون-ي9ح]

Hi brother i will clarify that i saw other Muslims in the comments says that he is in hell because he didn't accept Islam and yeah this is the point but for us as Muslims because we believe that non-muslims are in hell but for you as a non-muslim maybe you find a dout in it so what I am saying is the prophecies in Islam doesn't limit on this prophecy because it could be a coincidence right?but the accumulation of the prophices and other things it what make non-muslims join Islam and I can say there are many of them are really convince like the one about the ruum comeback and the one about badr battle and we as Muslims doesn't limit our faith on the prophecies I advise you to search about الاعجاز in the quran and its types see how grateful is it another point I want to say do you see how many religions are they bro? how can differentiate between the wrong ones the right one ? by evidences and thinking and how logic the religion is ,for me when i see the god concept in the christiany I say why is it should be that complicated while the god concept in Islam is so simple I will tell you my strongest point that Islam is the right religion, Sharia , I bet you will not find a religion better than islam in that point and finally search about مكارم الأخلاق في الاسلام

[@KhizarYt-d6x]

THE PROPHECY IS ABOUT ABU LAHAB'S WIFE LIKE CARRIER OF THE FIRE WOOD, SHE WAS CARRYING THE FIRE WOOD FROM THE JUNGLE AND SHE DIED

[@daxvanderwal]

his wife is included in this prophecy but Abu Lahab is the main focus

[@KhizarYt-d6x]

THE MUSLIM LANTERN QUOTED THE WHOLE SURAH BUT BASICALLY ITS ABOUT HTE WIFE OF ABU LAHAB SHE DIED CARRYING THE FIRE WOOD

[@cemredif]

Let me help you if you are sincere: The Criteria is the Qur'an to judge whether the prediction happened or not, because the Qur'an has been scientifically proven (a subject to be discussed separately) to be the Word of God. So, Qur'anic criteria: Anyone who is the enemy of Islam or a disbeliever of God will enter the Fire. There are many verses that backs this up. These verses were revealed whilst Abu Lahab was still alive, and in consideration that many convertions were happening at the time: and had Abu Lahab sincerely accepted Islam, this verse would have been God Forbid wrong - however in the face of at the time current popular mass conversions, the prediction withstood the test as Abu Lahab died still being an enemy of Islam and also as a disbeliever.

[@daxvanderwal]

If you were able to successfully prove the Quran is a miracle using other evidence, then yes you can jump tp "Abu is in hell because the Quran is a miracle". But you can't use this passage to prove the Quran is from God, that would be circular reasoning. Also, Abu's silence means nothing. Him not faking a conversion in no way means this prediction is impressive. This is a non-sequitur.

[@nazirkhan2141]

Do you knownthat Quran mentions that the size and position of moon is with precise calculation.

[@aaaragnar322]

How do we know that abu lahab will enter Hellfire is because Allah SWT told us .

[@daxvanderwal]

but how do you know the Quran is from Allah?

[@aaaragnar322]

@@daxvanderwal Too many scientific miracles in the Holy Quran, The life of the Prophet Mohammad peace be upon him, the teachings of Islam, the prophecies in the Hadith and the Holy Quran, the non changed message to worship God with no partners Moses Pbuh didn't mention trinity even Jesus Pbuh didn't preach the trinity instead he said every time worship God alone (Why do you call Me good? No one is good except God alone , no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father = Allah) , all these and more prove to me that the Holy Book of the Quran is coming from Allah = God but let me reverse the question for you now how can you prove that the bible is authentic ? not changed ? Actually Christian scholars admit that .

[@daxvanderwal]

@@aaaragnar322 scientific miracles and prophecies are the evenly testable ideas you mentioned. This series is about finding a convincing prophecy in the Quran, so far I haven’t seen one. I will do a series on scientific miracles next

[@shishou_7639]

Bro didn't mention a single sahih Hadith in the arguments, bruhhh. Talk about mispresenting 💀💀

[@daxvanderwal]

What did I misrepresent? Give clear examples instead of accusing with no evidence. Also, I'm concerned with what the Quran itself says, not what the Hadith literature hundreds of years later says.

[@muzaffarshaheen1473]

Hell and Heaven have not opened yet till the doomsday.

[@daxvanderwal]

thank you for clarifying

[@nazirkhan2141]

How do you know tha Jesus was born without man?

[@samawathe]

@daxvanderwal. I know Abu lahab is in hell because anyone who fights the prophets of God and did not repent and believe in the prophets goes to hell

[@daxvanderwal]

I understand your logic, but if you use these verses as proof for the truth of Islam, you can't assume Islam is already true to prove Abu is in hell. This is circular reasoning.

[@ismailnasyr1557]

how do you know there is a hell & heaven & prophet according to you.

[@daxvanderwal]

because God has revealed the truth about these things. I would need to give evidence that the Bible is true, and then conclude that hell exists. With this Abu Lahab argument, you would need to prove the Quran is from God in another way, and then take the faith commitment that he is in hell.

[@legenieduturfu8848]

I don't even see this as a prophecy, i don't see this as a prophecy at all, but more like a decree because Abu Lahab made the life of the prophet harder, especially knowning predestination, kadar ou takdir is an important doctrine in Islam. How I see this sourah is that Allah predestined it from even before creation. Basically, Allah created Abu lahab and his wife, and predestined then to hell before anything was created with no chance in doing the opposite. Basically Allah created people to send them to hell and this from before anything existed since the Quran is supposedly the uncreated word of Allah and is eternal. I don't know if it makes sense.

[@daxvanderwal]

Yeah that makes sense! We have predestination in Christianity as well. Your view of this passage makes sense. It just doesn't seem like you would use this as evidence for the Quran, which I'm okay with. But people like MuslimLantern seem to be using this decree of Allah as a prophecy that is evidence for the Quran, and this has several logical problems.

[@legenieduturfu8848]

​​@@daxvanderwalunless you are a 5 point calvinist (idk at all) we don't actually have the same type of predestination. Islam actually teaches that some people are being created for hell and some are created for heaven, that some people will do work so that they will be so close to paradize that they can almost touch it, but when they will die, the decree will overcome anything and if you have been decreed to hell you'll go there, and that even if you have sins bigger than mountains, if you have been decreed to heaven you will go to it. That's nothing like what we have in christianity, because believing in Jesus and loving jesus by following his law garantees us heaven. There is nothing like a decree that will overcome what Jesus promised us and taught.

[@daxvanderwal]

@@legenieduturfu8848 Sometimes I find myself speaking like a 5 point calvinist.... but no I am not. I know predestination is one of the main articles of belief in Islam, but I wasn't sure how strict that was. Sounds very extensive. How do you know so much about Islam? Did you use to be a Muslim?

[@legenieduturfu8848]

​@@daxvanderwal I am a maronite christian from lebanon, and I like a lot geopolitics and religious theology, i had to start understanding all the sects and religion that are in my country in order to understand more of its history politics, balance and so on... then leading me to read about them, then leading me to people talking about it, leading me to know more about it. Since I speak and read arabic, i can easily read and understand hadiths without going through translations, and translation biases in order to mask reality and so. Been watching a lot of atheist, christian, jewish and islamic streams on many topics, debates and so. I am far from an expert but I tend to remember most of what I saw or heard.

[@daxvanderwal]

@@legenieduturfu8848 Wow that's amazing man, thanks for sharing. You have a unique experience and the fact that you are literate in Arabic is really helpful. Thanks for sharing your thoughts and keep fighting the good fight!

[@flamingoxebec6336]

U have to see from the standpoint of Muslim, if u see it from the standpoint of atheis, it cannot be proven true because atheist do not believe hell in the first place😂,,,,from my review of your opinion, u still have a lot to learn about Islam,,,keep study bro,,we pray for you to accept the truth of Islam

[@daxvanderwal]

I'm trying to see it from a logical standpoint - and logically I don't see how this prophecy can be used as evidence for the miraculous nature of the Quran. I do agree with you though. I have SO MUCH to learn. But I'm excited to learn it! Islam is a fascinating religion

[@kaleelurrahaman1882]

This whole video is such a Bruh moment Its bad enough you take verse of a Quran that is not a prediction rather a promise but you focus on the wrong argument to be honest if this is your level of sincerity masalama all the best for your future 😂

[@daxvanderwal]

@@kaleelurrahaman1882 then tell your Muslim apologists to stop using this verse as evidence for the miraculous nature of the Quran… I’m only talking about it because they are. Also, this is a complaint not an argument, let me know if you have an actual argument.

[@Zzzzyv3kc]

Abu Lahab is in hell because Abu Lahab died by not accepting Islam, if Abu Lahab died by accepting Islam, then the Quran is proven to be false and Islam is proven to be wrong..

[@daxvanderwal]

What actual evidence do you have that he is in hell? You can't just say "because he didn't accept Islam", that is circular reasoning. And Abu Lahab not becoming a Muslim in no way proves this prophecy is a miracle.

[@Zzzzyv3kc]

@@daxvanderwal that verse is not a prophecy made by the prophet Muhammad but that verse is the word of God.. God told Muhammad that his efforts to invite his uncle to Islam were futile and God said that Abu Lahab would not want to believe in the religion brought by the prophet Muhammad even he died in a state of disbelief if there is no god worthy of worship other than Allah and Prophet Muhammad is his messenger.

[@Zzzzyv3kc]

@@daxvanderwal that verse was revealed 10 years before the death of Abu Lahab and Abu Lahab himself certainly knew about this verse because he always secretly followed behind wherever the prophet Muhammad went and asked about what the prophet Muhammad had said to them earlier

[@daxvanderwal]

@@Zzzzyv3kc thanks for sharing your thoughts. I agree, it sounds more like a decree than a testable prophecy. With that being said, Muslim apologists should stop using these verses as evidence for the miraculous nature of the Quran.

[@daxvanderwal]

@@Zzzzyv3kc I still don't see how this is a testable prophecy, if that's what you're saying.

[@nazirkhan2141]

I am sure of Abu Lahab in hell, however I am more concerned that I dont end up in hell and should you. Because hell is imdeed a fpul place. Now do not ask how do we know that hell is a bad place?

[@dpapplication3640]

You are treating it superficially. The meaning of the prophecy is that Abu Lahab will die as an unbeliever, he will die fighting Islam (and thus he will go to Hell). Abu Lahab could have claimed that he converted to Islam, and thus he would have invalidated the Islamic religion, but his arrogance prevented him.But this is less of a prophecy, there are much stronger prophecies, try to be more objective, good luck

[@daxvanderwal]

How is this impressive? Of course he was going to die an unbeliever, he was against Islam. And his silence doesn't somehow prove the prediction is a miracle, this is incredibly fallacious. Also, as I mentioned in the video, even if he became a Muslim it would not have disproved the actual prediction that he would go to hell.

[@dpapplication3640]

@@daxvanderwal He was not satisfied with silence, but continued to harm the Messenger and his followers until his death, and by doing so he guaranteed his entry into Hell. Just because he died as a disbelieving warrior, he is in Hell according to Islam, and also according to previous laws, if you assume that he was a prophet, then whoever fought Moses, Jesus, and Abraham and died as disbelievers, there is no doubt that they are in Hell.

[@daxvanderwal]

@@dpapplication3640 there is no doubt they are in hell… if you first assume Islam is true. But if you use this prophecy to prove Islam is true, that is circular reasoning.

[@dpapplication3640]

@@daxvanderwal Maybe because I am not a good English speaker I did not explain to you well what I meant, I mean that the prophecy deals with Abu Lahab not converting to Islam, in any case this is the weakest prophecy that can be addressed, no Muslim believes because Abu Lahab did not convert to Islam, but it may have been used in the context of responding to discussions, but it did not suit you because there are stronger arguments in the Quran and also in the Hadith for every honest researcher, and if you applied a quarter of your criteria to the prophecy of Jesus in the Old Testament you would not prove anything, but it is good it is an opportunity to learn more about Islam

[@daxvanderwal]

@@dpapplication3640 thank you for clarifying! I understand where you are coming from. What prophecy in the quran do you think is the strongest?

[@gadowourou8806]

All disbelievers will go to hell, God said it. How do you as Christian know that you will be saved by worshiping Jesus?

[@daxvanderwal]

This is circular reasoning... you need to either 1. give actual evidence Abu Lahab is in hell or 2. Prove to me the Quran is from God But you can't use this passage to prove the Quran is from God, because that is arguing in a circle.

[@gadowourou8806]

@@daxvanderwal Paul said, believe and worship Jesus and you will be saved and you have no Problem with that even thought Paul never saw Jesus , why should I have Problem believing my Prophet? We need not prove to anybody anything, for if you read your bible and not able to make out who the true God is in John 17:3, nothing can make you see the truth. May Allah guide you onto the right path.

[@daxvanderwal]

@@gadowourou8806 None of what you said proves Abu Lahab is in hell. If you don't have evidence then just say so.

[@gadowourou8806]

@@daxvanderwal He died as a disbliever, he is in hell as the Prophet said. We need not to prove to you. Well prove to me that he raised the dead then I will prove to you he is in hell.

[@daxvanderwal]

@@gadowourou8806 You have to first assume Islam is true in order to believe that. Which means this prophecy isn't evidence for the Quran being a miracle, you have to assume it's a miracle in order to conclude he is in hell. There is actually historical evidence for the resurrection, but there doesn't seem to be any evidence Abu Lahab is in hell.

[@BlackSwanGamingTGK]

5:40 How do we know ? Well how do you know Jesus was killed ?

[@daxvanderwal]

Because all of the historical evidence says he was killed. Do you have any historical evidence that Abu Lahab is in hell? (there's evidence for one, but no evidence for the other)

[@BlackSwanGamingTGK]

@@daxvanderwal there is no evidence for Jesus either right ? You asked for security cameras , is there a place where we can go take a peak and see if he is in hell. Instead of asking us here talk to The Muslim Lantern its a lot easier to get answers like that. I just feel the way you ask for evidence is literally arrogant. That is why i asked you the same thing. Show me a security video clip of Jesus being killed.

[@daxvanderwal]

@@BlackSwanGamingTGK I can see how that came across as arrogant, but my question remains. The difference is that Jesus lived and died in history. Therefore, historical evidence is valid. On the other hand, Abu Lahab being in hell would be a supernatural event happening in another dimension... how is that testable? Empirical evidence? Historical evidence? My point is there's no possible evidence for this claim, therefore we can't take this prediction seriously. Again, one of the above has evidence and the other one does not. That is the difference. I'm not being inconsistent here in my standards for evidence.

[@BlackSwanGamingTGK]

@@daxvanderwal Abu Lahab lived and died in history as well my brother. So historical evidence is valid as well. There is no possible evidence that Jesus was killed and then raised by God is there ? All im saying is , when Christians want evidence they create these questions that make no sense but never ask the same question about their own religion. Qur’an is our evidence and as i said for best explanations you need to talk to Lantern or Uthman people like that not just us random people watching videos. Lol. Either way much love , no hate at all.

[@daxvanderwal]

@@BlackSwanGamingTGK Sure Abu Lahab lived and died in history but what is the prediction? The prediction is that he would enter hell. Show me evidence that he entered hell. You see how that isn’t historically testable right? I am not one of those Christians. Yes we have historical evidence for the resurrection of Jesus. This is historically verifiable, without a doubt. So once again, one of these examples has evidence and the other does not. Unless you can give me real evidence Abu Lahab is in hell. No hate taken man, I appreciate you pushing back. I think we’re both trying to be fair.

[@mamdirar8464]

Thank you for this amazing video. Islam is not a new religion, it is simply the religion of GOD almighty. It is the religion of all prophets and Messengers of God from Adam, Abraham, Moses and Jesus to the latest messenger Mohamed peace be upon them all. This message orders humanity to Worship one GOD ; Allah alone and never associate any partner to him. It is a unique message called ISLAM which means Submit to GOD and obey to his commands to succeed in this life and the hereafter. Unfortunately, Jews along the time reject Islam because they are arrogant and aggressors, they want a prophet who match their desires to lead them to wars and kill other people make corruption on Earth, not a messenger who call them to monotheism and to be merciful and just and make good. So they alter the message of Islam after Jesus through the Rabbi Paul the Apostle who was a Jewish infiltered in the Muslim community at the time and alter the Gospel making Jesus as son of GOD and his mother Mary the mother of God, and Jesus was died for the sins of all people. So He create a new religion called Christianity. God sent the prophet Mohamed to correct the message again and to guide humanity to the straight path, but Jews again never stop to fight GOD and his religion by infiltrating many mans like Rabbi Paul the Apostle inside Muslim community so they appear in Social media as Islamic and Christian scholars, Doctors and Imams to mislead people again. They wont people to succeed. Jews will never succeed because GOD promises to protect his book Quran from distortion until the last day. Muslims do not care whether Muhammad was an Arab, a black slave, from the Children of Israel, or from the Red Indians. What is important is that he is a messenger sent by God.

[@daxvanderwal]

Hey man! But how do you know Muhammad is a messenger of God? This is what I'm trying to figure out. Are there any prophecies in the Quran that prove it is from God?

[@SacroSalaz]

YOU looking at it from a nonbeliever point of view. the thing is if you are not a believer in one and only One God and worship something else, or not beleive in anything that is by itself is a sin unforgivable sin thus according to Islam you will go to HELL . Another point is that Quran cannot be altered in anyway or form known > You cannot add a line a word a letter or a pronunciation sound , if Abu lahab said I believe in Islam after this surah He would prove that Quran is not the word of GOD . One thing , just don't be shallow by watching the same clip a million times and coming with a conclusion that fits your thinking " he is mad at his uncle so he said that " ignoring the fact ( at least to muslims ) that it is the word of GOD not the word of a human regardless if he is a prophet or peasant . Making this clip 17 minutes of the same thing over and over and over and over again is the definition of circular reasoning , it must fit these 7 conditions other wise it is not approved then These condition that are seven must be met etc, then The conditions that must be met are ... then 7 or what ever number of conditions must be met then here is the criteria guys . anyways just know a little bit about the subject before you claim expertise and Understanding . Just the Basics the very Basics such as " a car has an engine " you don't need to know the mechanics and the Hows .

[@daxvanderwal]

Hey! I'm looking at it from a non believing standpoint because I am a non-believer. I'm not going to assume Islam is true in these videos, because I am not convinced Islam is true. I simply respect truth too much to try to please people on the internet. But, if you have feedback on my actual argument and you think this prophecy proves Islam is true, then let me know your thoughts.

[@KhizarYt-d6x]

U NEED TO USE YOUR COMMON SENSE AND UNDERSTAND TEH TRANSLATION BRO

[@daxvanderwal]

how am I misunderstanding the translation?

[@gamakichie]

Bruh ..... C'mon. 17min on this argument... You chose the weakest point about miracles and prophecies to trigger people. And you know exactly what you did. 🤦🏻‍♂️😅🤣. You guys don't know where to go. This is ridiculous.

[@daxvanderwal]

If anything this sounds like you're critiquing Muslim Lantern by calling his arguments weak... but, if you actually want to talk about the evidence, then go ahead and give an argument.

[@gamakichie]

I don't have time for you , and I know you want me to comment and create engagement for your channel. I just wish you good luck and peace. Just focus on your faith , focus on Christianity. I don't see the point on making these kind of videos . Get a real job and earn your money in a moral way. Using your time to critique other people's religion is how you pay your bills ?

[@gamakichie]

Allah ysahel

[@daxvanderwal]

@@gamakichie have a good day!

[@m4hd1_]

As a muslim, i respect your patience and kindness with this man. ​@@daxvanderwal

[@nobody99]

He is in hell because he was a pagan polytheist. and according to all Abrahamic Faiths, Polytheists go to Hell. so your fake analysis is debunked.

[@daxvanderwal]

This is circular reasoning. You can't assume the truth of Abrahamic Faiths in order to prove that your Abrahamic faith is correct. You can't just assume Abu is in hell because you believe non-Muslims go to hell. Without assuming the truth of Islam, how do you know he is in hell?

[@nobody99]

@@daxvanderwal I considered you as a christian? arnt you?

[@daxvanderwal]

@@nobody99 Yes I am a Christian... I think I see where you're going, here is the explanation I gave someone else. Yes, I believe non-Christians go to hell. But to prove to a non-Christian that someone went to hell, I would need to give them actual evidence. Or I would need to first prove to them the Bible is a miracle, and then they could take the logical step of accepting what it says. For Abu Lahab, Muslims either need to give evidence he is in hell. Or they must first prove the Quran is a miracle using additional evidence. However, they can't use this passage to prove the Quran is a miracle, because the only way to prove Abu is in hell is to already assume the Quran is a miracle. This is circular reasoning. If you need some examples of circular reasoning I would suggest googling it, might be helpful.

[@thundzee7435]

@@daxvanderwal how do we prove that someone went to hell? ok so the quran is the word of god as we believe so once a person establishes that anything within it is the truth and you dont need neccesary evidence but i guess you cant understand the argument of abu lahab as it is complex and the only source of evidence is to believe its the truth as it's from god or wait until the day of judsment and see him entering hell. so how do we establish the quran is the truth using evidence which we have already we can look at the scientific miracles of the quran as science affirms this "And it is We who have constructed the heaven with might, and verily, it is We who are steadily expanding it." (The Qur'an, 51:47) - refering to the expansion of the universe (1400 years ago), this was only discovered by science in 1929 Edwin Hubble Using the largest telescope of the time, he discovered that the more distant a galaxy is from us, the faster it appears to be receding into space. This means that the universe is expanding (in all directions) "Do not the Unbelievers see that the heavens and the earth were joined together (as one unit of creation), before We clove them asunder, and We made from water every living thing. Will they not then believe?" (The Qur'an, 21:30)- refering to the big bang theory revealed once again 1400 years ago to a prophet who had no knowledge no education and was iliterate. science on the other hand the big bang theory was discovered in 1931 by Georges Lemaître (hypothesis of the primeval atom) "We made the sky a preserved and protected roof yet still they turn away from Our Signs." (The Qur'an, 21:32)- refering to what we know as the atmosphere, also revealed 1400 years ago. obviously due to science we know what would happen to us humans if there was no atmosphere- the atmosphere protects the earth from the freezing cold of the space, about (-270° C) "Elif, Lam, Mim. The Romans have been defeated in the lowest land, but after their defeat they will themselves be victorious in a few years' time. The affair is God's from beginning to end." (The Qur'an, 30:1-4) - historically proven, also The Dead Sea basin where Byzantium was defeated by Persians is the lowest land in the world. these are just a few of the hundreds of miracles which are found in the quran however this is not the point of the quran, the quran is simply guidance to mankind from god on how you should live your life, if your sincere then you will eventually come to the realisation that islam is the truth, in sha allah you do brother.

[@abdelkarimkeraressi1418]

i can proof to you and you can test it that Quran is define .. go found just one fault in Quran . go try to found one mistake in Quran in any aspect , scienece or litrature , or languange , or as you wish you will never able to found it . this is proof this is from GOD, its has no mistake. not a singel one , . if you just found one i will give you everything you need . i will bet can give you my kidnee .....

[@daxvanderwal]

@@abdelkarimkeraressi1418 this is not a logical test. Even if a book has no errors that doesn’t therefore mean it’s from God. There are children’s books out there with no errors, are you saying those are divine?

[@abdelkarimkeraressi1418]

@@daxvanderwal ok there is many scientifics fact in Quran wich they are known recently .... thos are not enough for you ? my brother! by the way im a mulim a beliver in Quran only. so ilm not a mushrik like others muslims who follow bukhari ex... i follow only Quran the words of GOD... and in Quran torah and gospel are word of ALLAH also and they are not Corrupted .... but the gospel wich you have it has lost meaning ... so translate from language to other languange to other languange ...i can give you a simple example from Quran .. i will give you a verse in arabic ... and in english thos who make translation he just used lense of bukhari he twisted the meaning of that verse why ? to dont make bukhari showup as a liar ... this is Sunnah ... it really big topic my friend .

[@daxvanderwal]

@@abdelkarimkeraressi1418 I am studying the scientific claims next, I will make a video about it. I have never heard of a Muslim saying they are Quran only! That is very interesting. Why don’t you accept Hadiths?

[@AbduraghmaanDiedericks]

Dax l must give you credit for having your critism well thought out or so you think. You mentioned circular reasoning logical fallacy.but what you're doing is strawmanning prophecy....even though there are more clearer prophecies that fit your ridiculous criteria I'm gonna go straight to the point l wanna make....save yourself a lot of embarrassment and first prove the Qur'aan wrong and if you cannot and of a surety you cannot then prepare yourself to meet Abu Lahab in Hell-fire. ...but that's not my wish for if im being honest with you ...may Allah Almighty guide you to the truth and you owe it to yourself to read and study the Qur'aan with an unbias mind. And bear in mind the Qur'aan had never been scientifically wrong. I'm gonna leave you with this question : Are the blind equal with those who see ?

[@daxvanderwal]

Thank you for giving me some credit! I appreciate you watching even though we disagree. And I don't wish hellfire upon you either, I pray you would bow the knee to Jesus as your Lord and Savior. You accused me of strawmaning this argument, how did I misrepresent this argument? "First prove the Quran is wrong" - what I'm doing right now is trying to see if there's any positive evidence for the Quran being divine. If there isn't, then I'm not going to accept the Quran as miraculous. If you think there is a testable prophecy in the Quran that shows Muhammad was a prophet, let me know.

[@kingyeshua89]

if u like prophecies.. look into the bible.. there are some real prophecies.. for example psalm 22!

[@daxvanderwal]

Definitely! Micah 5:2 is the most mind blowing to me. It's specific, testable, clear, etc.

[@muzaffarshaheen1473]

Christianity is confusion so doomed.

[@daxvanderwal]

this video is about Islam

[@AndyNoaz]

U dont even 'understand' the surah you read..its good u dont understand it..coz if u do u will misused it to do bàd things🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@daxvanderwal]

@@AndyNoaz how did I misunderstand this Surah?

[@indefiance8060]

Prophecies can never be Miracles or we would call them Miracles and not Prophecies.

[@daxvanderwal]

If a prediction cannot be explained naturally then divine agency would have to be considered. This would classify as a miracle.

[@indefiance8060]

@@daxvanderwal Nope, then people like palm readers and such would be miracle workers and Nostradamus would have been a miracle worker. Prophetic Gifts are one of the 9 Gifts of the Spirit provided by The Holy Spirit. But, they are still not miracles. Does that explain it better?

[@daxvanderwal]

@@indefiance8060 Yeah I get where you're coming from, thanks for expanding. What if the prophecy comes from the Spirit though? This would be a prediction made via divine agency, which I would define as a miracle. So not every prophecy is a miracle, but one's inspired by God would be. Unless you define miracle differently.

[@indefiance8060]

@@daxvanderwal I wanted a hyper autistic answer to this question, so I prompted chatgpt, and this is what it gave me back. A prophecy is not typically considered a miracle, although they can be related in some contexts. A prophecy involves predicting future events or delivering a message believed to be from a divine or supernatural source. It’s about foretelling what is to come, often attributed to divine insight or inspiration. A miracle, on the other hand, is usually an extraordinary event that defies natural laws, often seen as a direct act of divine intervention. It’s something tangible that occurs in the physical world, like healing the sick or parting the sea, which wouldn’t be possible through normal means. So, while a prophecy could be considered miraculous in the sense that it involves supernatural knowledge or divine inspiration, it is not a miracle in the traditional sense of being a visible and supernatural event that defies natural laws. Instead, a prophecy might be seen as a "spiritual sign" or "supernatural knowledge," rather than a direct and visible act of power in the physical realm.

[@daxvanderwal]

@@indefiance8060 lol great idea. This is actually very helpful. I'm in the midst of summarizing a valid approach to testing Islam, so this distinction is very helpful.

[@AndyNoaz]

U dont have the rukun iman thats why u dont understand the miracles..and thats good coz if u do understand ull misuse it for bad things..