Abusing The Hammer To Make Ultra Nightmare Easier | Doom Eternal Ancient Gods 2

[@originalcynic]

this is gonna be a busy week...onto TAG1 nerfs and arachnotron neuter Join the discord here: discord.gg/qzwCDbt Follow me on twitter: twitter.com/CynicalGaming13

[@jd2792]

Don't know if its count as a one shot But if you super shotgun a murader and then hammer and then a direct BFG shot will kill instantly kill the murader

[@michaelhansen8959]

Yhea, you doom content guys need to find the truth. Why is the intire game +dlc nerved? We need answers 😭

[@heretics_archive]

Thank god you're gonna talk about this we need as much attention poured onto Id about this they didn't even tell us they were just like ehh these idiots won't notice or care they've only been playing the same dlc for months now

[@planetmaker3472]

hey my tag 2 un will probably be my first successful run and but i need a guide for the base game

[@NguyenKien1808]

The hammer's gonna be immediately removed from Mayo's upcoming brawler mode rules lol

[@undertheguacamole5123]

we know big daddy mayo is going to do that

[@zaphyre]

blame the baby's-first-fps tier enemy placement in dlc2 for that

[@Ismael-kc3ry]

Not even in question haha

[@NguyenKien1808]

@KitchensAreHot I think 4 would be a better number. By that way, you don't immediately get the hammer after killing the 2 wolfs in the Dark Lord fight and it would make it harder to get the hammer in a chaotic fight too. Also I really think the hammer should have just stun the enemies and deal damage, we spent a whole year learning and perfecting the resource management game, and the hammer basically contradict everything the game had taught us

[@acidix_games]

Actually, he did the opposite - banned the other way of getting ammo, but did nerf the hammer massively.

[@theenemy333]

For people who plan to use the hammer to escape close calls, it should be clarified that you aren't invincible during the hammer animation. (Or at least it definitely feels that way in my experience)

[@GamingMafia_id]

And sometimes baron or hellknight weren't affected by it when they in attack animations, prolly a bug.

[@originalcynic]

To add to it tyrants are hit and miss. Which I think all of these are bugs. And In my experience I haven’t gotten hit while activating the hammer

[@sirbricklord8074]

@@originalcynic yes but you are super vulnerable right as you come out

[@SLIMZ34]

@@originalcynic Ive died a few times mid animation. But also a few times it looked like i should have been taking damage but I didnt for some reason, So I’ve no idea what the intended behaviour regarding this was supposed to be

[@tcchip]

Yes, be very careful about how you use the hammer to deal with the Dark Lord's summons. So say you hammer immediately when you see him make the huge summon. It gives him time to hit you with his sword attacks, likely healing himself back up to full. I took two hours to beat him the first time because of this.

[@wind_traveler]

The hammer is kind of OP... I love it.

[@Alex_Zero]

I really like how they managed to increase the fun factor by orders of magnitude by just adding the hammer. Yeah, it may be a bit on the OP side, but I had too much fun to even care (especially considering the fact that I've barely ever used the Crucible).

[@originalcynic]

Same, I used the crucible maybe once and never touched it again. With the hammer it’s so damn fun to just abuse

[@camtubecamtube]

its like kinda how doom 2016 and ultrakill are pretty easy (imo) but insanely fun

[@GSP-76]

I literally forget about the crucible when playing...and then feel dumb after a intense battle for not using it, lol.

[@rickberny1424]

Yeah I think I used the crucible like twice for the archviles in my first run, I occasionally took it for a spin with the infinite ammo cheat to cosplay kilo rens angrier cousin but then they made it so the cheat doesn’t affect crucible for some reason so never used it

[@furiousfap3369]

I use the crucible on SGN ML, when you pick it up and get to chop a bunch of demons up in taras nabad, and final sin but not really otherwise. I dont like to rely on it much but SGN ML is ridic so I'll def dice some tyrants or archies there especially if im attempting UN. and sometimes I just use it randomly when i dont really need it if theres a crucible pickup anyways because i like to use the big red cool sword to kill a big boi instantly because its satisfying I like the hammer much better tho its friggin smashing

[@cyh4940]

They don't need to nerf hammer, just make the campaign more challenge then nobody will complain it's op

[@JS-yt1zy]

Exactly

[@sekiko7183]

More possessed Marauders?

[@felipereis733]

More spirts, and demons in everthing

[@dr.dickfart6515]

I feel like it should at least take 3 or 4 glory kill to charge up the hammer to be more balanced.

[@alastor8091]

@@dr.dickfart6515 that would make the final fight even more tedious.

[@BishopHavel]

The only thing missing from the hammer are Shao Kahn voice lines when you use it

[@TheFlame234]

"Its official, You suck!!"

[@erenfroger5356]

that would be kinda cool but it would get annoying after a while, maybe have an option to disable it

[@fernandor.guevarahdz9469]

The hammer is literally the cooler chainsaw

[@LerRhann]

AOE chainsaw that doesn't kill with one hit.

[@freddifrosk123]

What i love about the hammer is that its a super weapon you can use all the time and not once in a while to remove a demon like the crucible

[@joshgroban5291]

I really love how you're really funny but also informative. Love your vids

[@originalcynic]

🙏

[@Laxhoop]

I feel bad for the people who turned off hints and didn’t learn about this thing.

[@JoeMaranophotography]

I've been struggling with the second level on ancient gods 2 (nightmare) and this might actually help me out a bit in those two hard arenas.

[@kbecker3020]

Remember when the infinite ammo cheat also made the crucible infinite? I miss those times.

[@mjmanoni]

I played the whole DLC and didn’t realize the hammer replenished by breaking weak points & glory kills. I’m dumb.

[@bucciarativide1638]

Same dude, I died a lot of times in immora just because of that

[@Genojo]

Same, i tot it just had a long cd. But i think i dislike it now, knowing how exploitable and how broken it turned to be.

[@CollegeBallYouknow]

It’s the new Gauss Cannon- a bit on the OP side but an absolute joy to use.

[@Somedude7578-f8j]

Yes

[@Jpilgrim30]

I love it. The closer you get to the dark lord the more powerful you get. That’s exactly how it should be for someone like the doom slayer.

[@rampagerx6855]

To one cycle the marauder, just ssg him and hammer when he is stunned, then lock on and grenade spam. This works for Console btw

[@byronlively8698]

Just starting out my ultra nightmare run on this dlc and your videos have helped out with so much especially learning how to yeet hook after not knowing what it was for the longest time

[@mondragon9282]

Once I figured out how the hammer worked (like, the first escalation fight), I hammered the ever living fuck out of anything and everything. It makes everything stupid easy.

[@vortigan7362]

"All the new demon are just re-skin" Me:[point at armored hell-baron]

[@somedickhead6255]

Even worse, it's a baron with armour and a missing hand, that's it

[@chester51161]

and that’s the best new enemy they added. But he’s barely even used... same with the cursed prowler it literally only appears like 5 times

[@rintakumpu]

Love the Hammer. It'll probably replace chainsaw in the inevitable Betrayer spinoff. BTW, you can easily one-cycle marauder with SSG+Hammer+Full auto.

[@brandondoyle1669]

Hammer was great it helped me with the two maurders part on the third level... and slayers last ride might as well make him op as fuck

[@Somedude7578-f8j]

Hopefully you didn't kill the screechers with the hammer shockwave

[@wereitsoeasy189]

I HATE the stars above their heads now. I wish they had an option to turn off the extra falter stars and sounds.

[@benmcreynolds8581]

Yeah that's the only thing I don't like as well. Should add the option to change that setting, like sound effect adjustable, staggered animation adjustable... That would be great if they patched that in.

[@oliverjurasi3065]

You actually missed the whole new staggering of the marauder. It works now like when you shoot him when his eyes get green, he get staggered for a short time with blue/white stars above its head, and you can use that time window to land a hammer to stagger him for super long with yellow/golden stars above his head without the use of grenades. It makes the marauder a joke. Even ign would manage to do this lmao.

[@Jagdpz5]

Thus I propse that we should at least double the number of maruders in those figts

[@CharcharoExplorer]

I really like the new demons. Yes they are reskins, but their gameplay is cool. I suspect that if they had a new model too, they'd be perfect.

[@Wylie288]

This. Who the actual fuck cares about graphics in a god damn doom game? Im dissapointed in cynic tbh.

[@two-face7100]

Can wait to see the hammer/blood punch only run

[@St4rkiller04]

Hey, all I advocate for is just one extra glory kill/weak point, so there is some spam but it is also attained more by skill a balance of both worlds

[@rickberny1424]

I love the hammer, I play this game like a masochist, during the base campaign and a tag 1 I forgot the crucible and BFG existed, I dunno I prefer demolishing demons one quick switch at a time, it’s more fun for me. But the hammer, while being an absolute power house it’s not a “kill button”, it helps you get a breather and play the game better so as soon as I saw the pop up screen on how it worked I immediately started using it

[@Thisisthegreatestatofalltime]

Remember when they didn’t nerf the marauder despite the constant bitching, what happened to that version of Hugo?

[@a4arick106]

As much as the nerf seemed unnecessary, i think it also allows other casual players to enjoy the game and removed some little elitism in the doom community.

[@alastor8091]

So instead of allowing players to skill up and get a sense of pride and accomplishment, we lower the ceiling. Great.

[@ThyBigCheddar]

@@alastor8091 I mean, you have mods, you have slayer gates, you have master levels, you have a lot

[@themoshpit8341]

@@ThyBigCheddar exactly these people cry for no fucking reason

[@kentharris7427]

Thank you for clarifying how to generating the sentential hammer. I'm 59 years old and have been playing doom since 1994 (27 years) My reflexes are not so good so I play on "I'm too young to die" mode. I have played the 3 levels on Ancient Gods part 2 and waiting to get 99 health points before fighting the boss.

[@the_travelingbreeze]

I should actually try TAG2 UN before they nerf the hammer

[@Somedude7578-f8j]

No

[@airbornezombie7655]

Why the fuck would they nerf it? It's a pve game not pvp

[@the_travelingbreeze]

@@airbornezombie7655 Just because it's PVE doesn't mean it's not subject to nerfing. id Software wants people to earn the power fantasy by being in the fun zone, a balance between difficult and fun, and a tool that recharges quickly and easily that stuns big enemies for a long time while returning health, ammo, and armor makes TAG 2 pretty dang easy.

[@airbornezombie7655]

@@the_travelingbreeze then just don't use it if it makes it too easy for you. I like using it, it's cool. It doesn't need a nerf if the option of not using it is there

[@the_travelingbreeze]

@@airbornezombie7655 I didn't complain that the hammer made TAG 2 too easy. I made a comment that half-jokingly suggested I should use whatever I could to beat the game on it's hardest difficulty before id may or may not nerf it.

[@ThatKoukiZ31]

I love Cynic is helping us abuse the hammer and Eternal in general as much as he was abused as a kid. What a bro.

[@defhunta7301]

About the marauder, you don't need to falter him with a grenade, a SSG shot will make him stagger like normal then a quick hammer will daze him, resulting in an easy kill.

[@KosmataBradva]

"Hammer is too OP, nerf it" - the guy that keeps ammo crystals for last, so he can spam bfg and call it planning.

[@unlimitedmuphinz]

I feel it should just be the 2-3 weak points broken for hammer instead of also glory kills. it feels a bit to cheap when i can keep glory killing fodder and getting hammer charges endlessly during a fight

[@itzryan1172]

The Hammer makes that Dark Lord fight tons easier. I say leave it as is. Let's the player get more creative depending on the demons you're fighting.

[@furiousfap3369]

yeah and I already bloodpunch like a madman so im a fan of there being another way to smash em

[@Slayer_The_Rogue]

Cynic, what graphics seettings do you use, they look dope as hell!

[@SmokkinBudz284]

I agree it’s a single player game if you think it’s to strong don’t use it I think it’s a great addition to the game and I don’t think it’s OP if there gonna go it’s OP route then you might as well nerf the ballista SSG combo it’s all about how you use your tools to make things good or bad it’s not like the hammer kills everything in it’s blast and you can spam it with no recharge or cool down

[@ultimatead5657]

I love using the carcasses. Blood punch puts them into glory kill state so I get my blood punch back plus hammer charge

[@JohnCena-fp4qg]

Great vid, except what you do w the marauder is stun w a super shotgun or ballista or PB, THEN hammer while they’re stunned and they’re stunned for an absurdly long time. Like you can 1 cycle with just ballista SSG. Basically pretend they’re the dank lord and hammer after stun

[@Genojo]

Before watching this video i didnt know the hammer was linked to glory kills. I just thought it had a really long cooldown, since i have tutorials turn off, i didnt read any hammer tutorial. And now that i know this, i feel its OP af. I would rather give it a long cd like the chainsaw, or even longer.

[@brandonh6004]

On console I’ve been 1-cycling marauders by ssg when he strikes, then hammer, then chain gun shield+dash into him until he dies

[@dragosandreipapuc5281]

infinite blood puch pools everywhere dude, this dlc was a piece of cake!

[@metalmancer2340]

The hammer isnt OP, the DLC is just too forgiving and easy. I mean yea it's VERY effective but I mean cmon, its a single-player power fantasy, let people have their fun.

[@add5459]

i didnt know the hammer recharge via glory kill and weak point hahaha glad i watch this vid :D

[@duron4480]

Ay man is there any chance you're going to do an ultra nightmare guide? I am struggling with ultra nightmare in general and your guides are always super helpful

[@nikit6669]

1:17 smooth transition

[@MrLim-wq2gn]

The Sentinel Hammer is Truly Underrated alongside the Crucible Sword.

[@themercenary4472]

I’m honestly really excited now that they’ve finished up these two expansions. Hopefully they move on to tweaking the difficulty, and bug fixes. Maybe we’ll get invasions finally too.

[@derekbrackett1622]

Love it ! All right stop........hammer time 🔨

[@matteosalvestrini3553]

Well...I like the hammer idea and I think is a cool new game dinamics...sure, if you are good, you're right, it could be nearly unlimited but its interesting to add it in different fight styles. I think it would be more balanced if the GK and the weak-points breaking were three. But maybe you're right and there's no need to nerf it. Thanks for your videos, they're really useful and clear! ....even if I can't do any of your miracles on PS4! XD

[@13579Slipknot]

The micro beam will lock and disable the armored baron from regenerating it’s armor so long as you keep it on them

[@YouOpaOpa]

Love it. Need it. Miss it.

[@michaelhansen8959]

First run was basically without. Forget that I had that thing in my invertory. You can do without tho. Would be nice if they change the difficulty so you have to use it

[@ginozeus2579]

Knowledge is power...time to suit up...Demons begin to hear boss music in the distance...Demons learn that they can sweat blood😎

[@IronWarriorBarrak]

I love the hammer but the only problem I have with it is that it makes the chainsaw useless in not only ammo consumption but health and armour too. I wouldn’t chain the hammers stats but make so it takes 4 glory kills or weak points for a full charge.

[@PaulSmith-nd7gd]

The hammer is incredibly fun to use. Maybe can be abused but like you said, it can be left alone if you think it makes the game too easy

[@Mr.Man2214]

I have no issues with UN until the dark lord. I get to the final phase and the dumbass demon spawns or dumbass laser hits me. I have made it the dark lord fight more times than not and it’s right at the very end I die. No I’m not mad.

[@ThatKoukiZ31]

"Potential fire hazard from your console exploding" WHAT CONSOLE /debo meme

[@StealthBeeKid]

I was originally into the idea of nerfing the hammer but you made me reconsider something. You can choose to not use it. It something we have been doing since base Doom eternal and 343's Halo. We choose to not use the crucible, bfg and Unmaykr, we choose to not sprint in Halo. It's not something that the devs have to take out, if you don't like it, don't use it. Even the Doom oficial twitter made jokes about not using bombs and dash in early 2020

[@holtonmattis9954]

I wish the crucible and hammer were just swapped. Getting the crucible in TAG2 and Hammer in the base game. Hammer with the falters in the base game being charged by glory kills and weak point breaks helps players learn the behaviors that make them better at the game.

[@stuperman4226]

@Cynic The Original, What software do you use for recording doom eternal and at what game settings.

[@LerRhann]

Cynic: I think you could complete the whole game with the hammer and the blood punch. Senza: *gets erection* I know what I must do.

[@theeternalslayer9513]

Honestly, I like it. If they could add some damage reduction or immunity when slamming down would be nice. I lost a good chunk of un runs because of the animation

[@bustinmayo6595]

I think the hammer doesn't really need a big nerf (maybe the radius but thats about it) but I do think the dlc needs to be buffed. I feel like they balanced the dlc without the hammer in mind, because it kind of makes some enemies almost useless.

[@MDSlayerTK]

The hammer is so perfect that I forgive it for breaking the dlc

[@mrsoisauce9017]

B4 saying this, I want 2 clarify that I did not play the ancient gods parts 1 or 2, so idk abt the events leading up 2 u getting the game, but I really wish they would give u the option 2 cycle between the crucible and the sentinel hammer. Again, I didn’t play the dlc, so if something happened in which the Slayer lost the crucible, then I wouldn’t no abt it

[@furiousfap3369]

the slayer lost the crucible at the end of the main campaign he snapped it off in the icon of sin's head

[@quantumhorizon]

I find the hammer to be fun so I don't think it should be nerfed, but speaking of things getting nerfed, I think they went a bit overboard with the TAG1 nerf.

[@matmat460]

3:36 do the normal SSG balista combo (SSG;HAMMER;BALISTA,SSG...)

[@AriCasino]

You’ve earned a subscribe because you’re a fellow PS4 player

[@sheravmaharaj317]

I one cycled the marauder by knocking him with the super shotgun, use hammer and then spam the shit out of Rocket launcher PB

[@samuelaavila8285]

I haven't even seriously used it yet. I usually kill everything in the room (which is annoyingly easier now because of all the nerfs) and then just used the hammer for shits and giggles. I don't think they need to do shit o hammer tho. If you don't want to use it, then don't press left on the dpad. Simple as that. AG2 easy enough compared to AG1 that i don't even want to use it for ultra nightmare. Still can't believe they decided to go back to AG1 and remove demons to make it easier. Glad I already had UN on AG1 before this update.

[@RollieReee]

the hammer is just fineee... Like u said if u can use it its good. I say if u can use iT WELL its OP. But not to that point that you arent able to beat the game without it. I beat the dlc and the final boss without it on nightmare. No need for nerf its purely optional

[@The.GRAND.loli.LORD.69420]

U don't need it but the boss is soooo boring long and tedious without it.

[@RollieReee]

@@The.GRAND.loli.LORD.69420 ye i didnt say it wasnt lol

[@gigamoumantai2696]

*Alternate Title:* Hammer go brrrrr.....

[@reclaimer1178]

Good vid 👌

[@wickedbadger1485]

I love the hammer. But I don't feel it should give as much ammo as it does. And I feel charges should be a bit more difficult to get. Maybe 4 glory kills instead of 2. Other than that, I think it's the best super weapon in the game

[@Jagdpz5]

Hammer shouldn't be changed (or at most slightly nerfed) but the fights should be made harder to account for it.

[@crackedshaxx2246]

Cynic I know this is off topic but the fucking soundtrack of this dlc SLAPS. It felt soooo fuckin good

[@iMorands]

Why do heads no counts as weakpoints though? Same with Caco's tummy granades. I'd take those instead of glory kills anyday!

[@levan3534]

You forgot to mention the chaingunner. The hammer doesn't have an effect on them from the front.

[@iamshakma4231]

The only thing I dont like is the noise the hammer hammer makes and the stars above the stunned enemies.

[@Brucifer2]

"Abusing the hammer will help with UN run" Me...who cant even make it past the screechers past the broken bridge: "Ok 😂"

[@Furious_Farts]

I used the hammer sparingly and I loved it!

[@WarframeCrunch]

In my opinion hammer should be nerfed but also buffed in one way, Need to do glory kill or destroy the enemy weak point 3 TIMES to charge the hammer. Hammer should drop 2 times less health and armor. Cut hammer stun duration by half for heavy units. Hammer should do double damage from what he is doing now, because I feel the hammer is weak in doing damage. 5:22 I do not agree, if something is in the game, then it should be used, so if hammer is OP then it should be nerfed, because the fun is with challenge, so it's not easy fix "if you don't like it don't use it", so I should not use it only because I think it's OP and it's breaking the game, while it's the only new weapon/tool in this DLC? I want to have fun with the Hammer too but, sadly it's OP so I would like it to be nerfed a bit to make it still a powerfull weapon but not making you a god.

[@BertHeymans]

Agree, hammer doesn't need to be changed.

[@jnhzrk6841]

@Cynic The Original what’s the song used in the beginning of this video? I feel like it’s from 2016s OST but I can remember what it’s called

[@originalcynic]

I forgot already lol. It’s one of the tracks to TAG2 though, pretty sure it’s world spear. The tracks in this dlc are actually really good

[@jnhzrk6841]

At :32. It might honestly be from TAG 2, but the riff sounds VERY 2016 to me.

[@melodicmonster]

The new baron actually kicks ass. The others, not so much.

[@HolyNotFallen]

I feel like your game visually looks different than mine, maybe it's the colors.. do you have some kind of special graphic settings?

[@jd2792]

Don't know if its count as a one shot But if you super shotgun a murader and then hammer and then a direct BFG shot will kill instantly kill the murader

[@furiousfap3369]

you can use lockon rockets if you wanna save your bfg

[@fbi7471]

1:48 lol

[@VideoStalker00]

I agree too, I think the hammer is fine the way it is and if you disagree then don't use it. Simple as that.

[@cavyspider6771]

Marauders are a joke now

[@JuanFlores-gs7uu]

Kind of unrelated, but did anyone have trouble with the mauraders not trying to attack?

[@whirligig_saw]

guys do you think we will get a patch that adds more demons in the dlc?

[@__ohen779_loves_rng__]

The hammer has the ability to disable all BLUE shields in the radius

[@clementfermn6711]

Bait every sibgle demon in hell and hammer them and add this combo ,frag grenade 2 times + remote rocket + ice bomb + detroyer blade + everybomb you have in your arsenal because you're never gonna run out of ammo

[@furiousfap3369]

throw the frags after the ice bomb for more damage

[@coltonboyd788]

Hey cynic have you seen the weapon delay option? A video on it would be great

[@originalcynic]

I have and my dumbass lol. I lowered it as much as it could go and there was moments where it became “unreliable”. Not sure if a full video would be done on just that but I am going to talk about it

[@coltonboyd788]

Really you think that lower the weapon wheel delay is best? I would say 180 and 200 seems to be the sweet spot

[@GamingMafia_id]

Surprisingly, without using the hammer at all, this dlc is actually hard enough.

[@originalcynic]

It is, I actually really like this dlc’s pacing. I see where people come from with it being hard and others saying it’s easy, I think it’s right in the middle where it’s challenging but a breeze for the better players

[@rdowg]

I haven't touched the hammer and still think the challenge is a little less than TAG1, but what really upsets me is how short the levels are. You can really tell they ran out of time trying to get it out before the "year one" pass was up, just look at hell's soldiers lol.

[@alastor8091]

@@rdowg hey, theyre trying their best :(

[@jd2792]

@ICON OF SIN because the boss is desgin with the hammer.

[@saeedharo616]

Can they add the hammer to the main game or masters levels the hammer is just awesome