Nietzsche and Metaphysics

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you are doing a wonderful thing on this channel, that is distilling great ideas, while not totally over simplifying them in order to make them accessible to the layman

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[@dontdoit7761]

So you have 3 Great things to enjoy and you call it ;only;? Come on dude,be happy...do you realize that you re 4 things of enjoyment ahead in contrast to a modern 'successful' man?

[@paulmillet3637]

This is good. I also find pleasure in philosophy

[@dontdoit7761]

@@paulmillet3637 sure my friend but pls know that philosopy is just a theory,and what we need is practice...do and live,dont just dream....i come from a world od philosopy and it is Great for a mental pain,but once you gather enough philosopy its time to act-live.... philosopy is nothing but others perspection on life...build ur own perspective and act acordingly

[@Honeycawt]

@@dontdoit7761 that’s not true

[@dontdoit7761]

@@Honeycawt how do you mean my friend?

[@rpmcmurphey927]

A part of this remined me of the movie "Little Miss Sunshine " The Son character, was resonating with Nietzsche, and went on a vow of silence until he entered flight school and achieved that career achievement, from the beginning of the movie. 3/4, almost the end of the flick, he had a meltdown when he found out he was color blind, and would not fly- He broke his vow of silence, and what looked like a feeling of peace came over him, and he let go of the idea of boundaries and had faith that he would achieve his dream, regardless of the "rules"

[@XxPunxunite]

Interesting connection. Thank you for the reminder of a very interesting character.

[@pascalg16]

Good movie

[@gregsmith1719]

"A world where suffering, fear, and death, are absent." (I die daily). It's called sleep. It's the treasure of greatest value.

[@klytouch5285]

I want you to sleep for ever.

[@reyskully7778]

My understanding of this topic has lead me to believe that there was once a time when people saw no distinction between reality as a whole as it truly is. Overtime a dualistic perception clouded the minds of humanity. I feel as though we still wrestle with this perception. I personally don’t believe in a dualistic reality but at the same time I do. I understand that I can hold two or more understandings of reality and not invalidate either idea in any way. If u were to say to me that I was wrong I would have to agree with you but if u could agree with me I also couldn’t argue that either. I believe this portion of reality the lower vibrating aspect of reality will always have a sense of dualistic nature to it. I also believe a reality of conceptual reality exists as well. It’s a pleasure if infinity but it’s also just as ever changing as the reality we physically inhabit. And I believe beyond that is that which is called the source of being itself, this is a place of pure unadulterated being not bound by perception so it is eternal. I believe as we give up our perceptions we might just be able to “be”. I apologize if I can’t convey this notion I experience and strive to embody beyond this. I’d be writing up a Bible just trying to explain this and at the end of it all I’d never have explained a thing, I’d only have danced around it like a shaman dances around a flame.

[@klytouch5285]

@@reyskully7778 yeah yeah yeah.. Just go to sleep and waking up in the morning fresh.. if you stress too much you might not.. hmmm

[@Tobsonator]

Good video, although I don´t like the term "two world theory", because this implies that metaphysics believed in two seperate and independent "worlds". In fact, they recognized that there is only one reality, but different perspectives: the perspective of finite (physical) beings that is very limited and flawed, and the perspective beyond physical beings (metaphysics) -> reality as it really is. Reality as it really is, in its such-ness can never be described by finite beings. If one tries to describe the metaphysical reality, one distorts it and this is the basis of Nietzsche´s criticism.

[@MrFrenzyBox]

wordlover yes! Two different perspectives! Not two different worlds!

[@c.galindo9639]

Nietzsche criticized the belief of a metaphysical world or perspective, however you want to put it. He believed only what we physically see and can grasp is the true reality and anything more is just fantasy and delusion. He criticized the thinking of such beliefs.

[@ishantaldekar406]

@@MrFrenzyBox why would it so wrong to say that there are 2 worlds, if we as humans cannot perceive the 2nd reality? even if they're, outside our perspective, just one reality. There would be no way for us to tell. would there?

[@mjames7672]

@@ishantaldekar406 i was taught it is wrong to lie - to ourselves and others. The biggest lie is telling yourself that something else exists when you have zero evidence of such a thing; all you are doing is denying the fantastical fancy of our imagination and ability to skew that which does exist in order for us to understand it, determined by the individual's education. Nietzsche was right about this: it takes a lot to truly grasp and accept this truth and we as the cosmic babies we are in 2019, are still a long way from accepting that.

[@christopherdeleanides3935]

We lie to ourselves all the time. It's not morally wrong, it's simply human and the way in which we navigate the world. Even you are telling yourself pretty lies at this very moment. It's just a way to cope with our existence. Like telling yourself "I have a lot of time left on this earth. I'm safe and odds are nothing with happen to me tomorrow", when you could very well be hit by a semi and die instantly. We're always pretending in one way or another.

[@b4tgiUS]

This channel is phenomenal.

[@thothagata3544]

The term Metaphysics means After Physics, because they didn't know what to call these notes by Aristotle except by cataloging them after his Physics.

[@harley508]

poor bastard didn't realise that thought itself was metaphysical

[@oceanmachine1906]

Well in Platonic-influenced metaphysics and basically all religions, at least

[@rezahexmaximalist8518]

Ok Poor Bastard Boomer :)))))

[@Pratik792]

@NolanEP What about Consciousness? Can anyone even dare to comprehend and rationalize it? Scientifically, we claim to have figured it all out,yet we can't even prove whether it originates or even resides primarily in the brain. It just is. Its eternal. I think is Neitzsche is right in some ways and wrong in some. He isn't perfect.

[@Tehz1359]

I'm a Nietzsche enjoyer. But I think metaphysics is where he went very wrong. I can see why he hated it. He hated it because he could never understand why people needed otherworldly phenomena to make sense of things. While he acknowledged that this world is a scary and dark place, he thought people should confront it, and it would make people stronger in the process, instead of retreating from this world and into another. While I sympathize with this, I think it's wrong to assume from this that all metaphysical concepts are bunk. Because a similar argument can be made in the inverse toward people like Nietzsche. That he was clinging to the material world because he was afraid of the possibility of having to answer to a higher power for whatever it is he did during his life. What also boggles my mind, is that Nietzsche knew that sense-perception wasn't enough to give a complete account of human experience, yet he still rejected metaphysics, even the slightest possibility of it.

[@shadowman8834]

Good point

[@hyperportal8899]

There is definitely an underlying energy for us to be aware of.

[@reyskully7778]

Aware? I feel like that keeps it outside of us…. Maybe we should experience it in our being ? Idk 🤷‍♂️

[@blackfordoblique1965]

Okay, I'm sure you're not a robot... but are you a robot? You have to tell me if you are

[@nickidaisyreddwoodd5837]

Thank you so much for those wonderful videos. In the end of his life Nietzsche became aware of other dimensions. It was a steady growing and learning process that led him to that understanding. He realized that the outer dimensions are not gods that had been made up by humans and that metaphysics was actually about ethics and true love which is deep unconditional compassion towards other living beings animals and humans.

[@dontdoit7761]

But why do you think so?

[@nickidaisyreddwoodd5837]

@@dontdoit7761 Because I read his books.

[@dontdoit7761]

@@nickidaisyreddwoodd5837 sure,that s cool but where from exactly did you extract this notion?o ask because i wanna know ass well....see i also read Him,and its kinda sad to me to be able Like him to deny anything beyond seeing so it would be a comfort to me,for i am not greater than this man...im currently in possession of some of his writings,but where to look to see what you have?tnx,take care

[@nickidaisyreddwoodd5837]

@@dontdoit7761 Beyond Good and Evil and also his last letters to friends and his auto biography and particularly the last books he had written contain elements of the beyond and he talked about Gautama Buddha being like a father. He signed his letters with Der Gekreuzigte which means the Crucified.

[@nickidaisyreddwoodd5837]

@@dontdoit7761 Nietzsche always emphasized the importance of introspection and questioning things. He shredded his own identification many times throughout his lifetime. He told his sister that if she wanted to really find out the truth she had to question all that society had indoctrinated into her.

[@ChymicalWeddings]

How spot on you make realitive complex ideas concise and thoroughly explained!! Well done my friend

[@keeelane]

The Greeks by and large did not think of the physical world to be "evil". That's a dualistic Christian notion. The Platonists thought the physical world was like a shadow of the metaphysical world...no one in these days think of shadows as evil - nor did they.

[@Moenarch]

Christians are mostly Aristotelians or Neo-Platonists. The physical world is not evil, that is flat out wrong, in fact, it is one of the main heresies of Gnostics. God created the world and he created it good (see Genesis 1).

[@WilmerCook]

The shadow? String theory?

[@halwag]

@@Moenarch . If it were so good, then why did he Flood it?

[@irreadings]

Well, some of them did. Perhaps not as evil, but as despicable. Plotinus was such one who thought like this.

[@thefool1086]

@@halwag That's a extremely foolish questin.

[@dbgthimo]

The disbelief of the idea of the "two worlds" is the dibelief of the idea of the idea, the idea itself, and furthermore the disbelief of the growth on insight.

[@iraqisailor]

Best philosophy lecture on KZbin 👏 Thanks 🌹

[@876ghost8]

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[@johncart07]

I wonder if the big bang and quantum mechanics would have changed Neitszche's view in any way.

[@JordanX767]

I don’t believe it would have. The Big Bang Theory is just a theory, therefore hypothetical. It’s another act of faith and a narrative that we would use to guide us in the world, just as people do with their individual understanding of the idea of God (which they come to terms with within themselves). Metaphysics is a rather primitive outlook of the world and life, though it’s understandable why we have the capacity to delude ourselves to escape certain realities and allow them to provide a sense of meaning until death. The individual *belief* in the *idea* of something “greater” is reflective of our natural proclivity to be spiritual and find sustainable meaning in our lives, despite inevitable suffering.

[@johncart07]

@@JordanX767 But it's all an act of faith either way, it's pick your poison with whatever veiw you adopt or hold to. We don't know if materialism or physicalism is true. We don't know if nature is all that there is, it could be, but we don't know. Quantum mechanics presents a weirdness that didn't exist in Nietszche time. It goes against any fatalistic determinism that could be imagined.

[@eternalkino34]

@@JordanX767 well in that case does Nietzsche does not believe science ? And only believes what he sees how about electromagnetism and in the maniacal episodes of his life he did seem to have a profound view of the what can be and what the depths of imagination can do to a person

[@thek2despot426]

@@JordanX767 The Big Bang theory is *_not_* a hypothetical act of faith. It's the best possible explanation for the aggregate of our empirical evidences relating to the phenomenon. _That's_ what a "theory" means in science, not just a subjective guess as in common vernacular.

[@JordanX767]

@@thek2despot426 I agree it’s one of the best things we’ve got, but that doesn’t mean that if we were to put it into praxis, the ultimate test, that we’d be correct that it actually happened the way we believe it did in our heads. Therefore, at least in praxis, it results in what ultimately boils down to an act of faith as there is much more we don’t understand that is yet to be uncovered in the universe, let alone our own planet. The nature of everything may be limited to how we can empirically derive it to be in this microcosm of Earth compared to the rest of all of the universe’s possibilities.

[@stellaercolani3810]

How does one explain hope, faith...it is an intense feeling?

[@DugongClock]

Wait so did Nietzsche dismiss the metaphysical world as you state in this video, or did he criticism the concept of materialism with his will to power as you stated in the other? How do you reconcile this?

[@backstabbedhermit2949]

He hated "otherworld" believers because they degraded reality and rejected to live in it. Like "Heaven" of Christianity or "World of Ideals" from Plato. They act as an escape. He also hated heavy materialists. Their acts are too grounded to discover and use powers of the human mind to it's full potential. He was in research of a "golden position". Did he found what he wanted? Probably no. Even in death, i doubt he could truly find what's he in search of. He did think "otherworld" was a bs but he didn't completely disagree metaphysics imo.

[@Tehz1359]

Nietzsche rejected metaphysics not because he thought it was false necessarily. But because he hated the fact that people had to resort to otherworldly phenomena to make sense of things. He thought people should love this world. He thought metaphysics or Christianity more specifically was telling people to say "No" to this world, when he wanted people to say "Yes" to this world.

[@xytoplazm]

Nietzsche is largely correct in claiming that people over-romanticize the "metaphysical world". Plato thought of it as the source of goodness, beauty, love, but there is no reason why it cannot also be the source of malevolence, ugliness, fear, as well. Many philosophers and mystics thought that it is "one" and "permanent", but that might be just a simplification on their part. If people could never comprehend the metaphysical, then they might as well dumb it down to say that they alone have grasped the ungraspable. Nietzsche is right in proclaiming these to be mere feel-good projections of the human psychology. But alas, Nietzsche was ultimately wrong: all of this doesn't really disprove the existence of the metaphysical world. At best, it only proves that people equate it falsely with the old mythological ideas of "heaven". This paints a dreary picture: Our most sophisticated philosophers use their great intellects to penetrate the source of everything, and end up with primitive cartoon descriptions of paradise. Perhaps, we can never truly glimpse the metaphysical world. After all, we are human, all too human.

[@eclipse5393]

+xytoplazm Your word usage is inappropriate. It's not romanticized. It's complete fiction.

[@eclipse5393]

xytoplazm Which is wrong. Do you realize your own leaps in logic? Metaphysics by definition ISN'T how things really are.

[@eclipse5393]

xytoplazm Typical pretentious ignoramus who relies on Wikipedia and doesn't read properly. You don't get it at all. Here's a challenge: In your own words, explain the difference between science and metaphysics.

[@eclipse5393]

xytoplazm It's people like you who should take their ignorance off the internet.

[@eclipse5393]

xytoplazm Can't back up your statements so you cower like a coward. Makes sense that a person with weak character wouldn't understand Nietzsche let alone general philosophy.

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[@AzyrealLal]

Interesting the way the physical is considered a shadow of the metaphysical dimension. Sounds very similar to our modern thoughts on the 3rd and 4th dimensions. I also find it interesting that many perceive/hypothesise that the 4th dimension is likened into a "spirit realm"

[@bridget8687]

As much as I love Nietzsche, I have to disagree with him on this one. Just because something cannot be directly perceived does not make it unreal. Sounds like he was actually using the defense mechanism of intellectualization to deal with his own feelings of suffering, to make his own life feel meaningful. To make such a bold claim about knowledge that is unknown and cannot be known until after death is unwise in my opinion. I always lose a little bit of respect when philosophers degrade metaphysics, mysticism, spirituality, religion, or other forms of “otherworldly” knowledge, as it is not something that can be discussed with the same rationale that we do all other things. Rationale itself should provide one with that insight. Yet I find many philosophers to be atheistic, scoffing intellectuals. I really enjoy Jordan Peterson’s work, as he incorporates metaphysical experience into his rational thinking. He is very well rounded in that way. The power of spiritual experience is more than just a psychological wish. It is a real phenomenon. Perhaps realer than anything. It is a glimpse into the infinite. It is not easily debunked. It cannot be. In my opinion, the idea that spiritual experiences are in fact spiritual experiences is parsimonious. I don’t believe it needs further explanation. To try and explain it away as a wish is more complicated than it needs to be. It’s too intellectual. It’s un-simple.

[@academyofideas]

I agree with you. Have you read William James’ Varieties of Religious Experience? Based on your comment I think you would enjoy it.

[@bridget8687]

Academy of Ideas I have not. Thanks for the recommendation, will definitely check it out!

[@sunset2.00]

i agree this neglections will harm civilization at the end.

[@jamesphillips2952]

Not to mention, as Heidegger pointed out, Nietzsche wasn't even able to escape the metaphysical reality he so vehemently denied. His ideas of the 'eternal recurrence' and 'will to power' are essentially placeholders for other metaphysical claims. How does he know things just eternally recur? Where does our 'will' come from? What is a will? Not to mention, if metaphysical realities are mere comfort blankets for people who cannot endure the hard reality of life, then the same is true for people who cannot endure the possibility of there being a metaphysical reality, and the world here and now is their comfort blanket. To be sure, some people NEED there to be a God or metaphysical reality because otherwise their fragile worldview would be undermined and they would collapse under the weight of such a thing. But likewise, some people, like Nietzsche, must vehemently deny anything metaphysical because, at bottom, they're terrified that if they knock too long on the metaphysical veil that they might just find something, or someone, behind it, who might, in the end, have something to say about how they lived their lives. They cannot have that so they play the willful ignorance game and convince themselves there's nothing beyond the temporal/material.

[@bridget8687]

@@jamesphillips2952 Really interesting observation!

[@ivoneapolinario]

Can you create a video about the philosopher J. Krishnamurti?

[@LightlessDimension]

What is claimed without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.

[@cristianhanganu1154]

i claim that numbers exist, but i can't find them in the physical world or anything of the sort. does that mean that they should be dismissed?

[@JHoffHassler]

Numbers aren't reality, but a measurement of it. Which is a metaphysical conception like language to describe something, but it's not the thing that is being described in itself.

[@himl994]

JHoffHassler so are measurements real

[@kennethr6403]

@@himl994 measurements are not real. They are our best way to model physical phenomena but are nothing more.

[@joelwesko1812]

JHoffHassler just as Kant famously put we experience the appearance of the objects, never what they truly are in themselves. Independent from our sense observations! Honestly the concept itself is super interesting and deep but a tough pill to swallow, love Kant, but probably one of the toughest books ever to dissect....

[@thomasfitzpatrick8077]

We evolved to interact with the things we percieved to exist, not limited to the things which actually exist or else "metaphysics" would be inconceivable

[@gregsmith1719]

The unchanging heaven is dead, like the land, the stone, the corpse, while the open seas are life alive, in motion, ever flowing, moving, changing, without rest, with nothing to hold onto.

[@stndsure7275]

Nietzsche's materialistic theory has just as many holes as the ancient Greek and Abrahamic theories. See the videos on Carl Jung for a hint of the actual explanation. Nietzche is not only wrong he is arrogant and abusive about it. Do not ignore the fact that he went insane - he bears significant responsibility for the consumerist and hedonistic insanity of the modern world. Nihilism is the most egregious error that any human thinker can make. If it becomes the default condition the outcome is terrifying.

[@tarnishedpose]

So better believe in fairy tales than the world you actually exist right now? Why not we all commit suicide and find out if there's anything beyond the existence we know of? You go first tho, if you're right, hopefully we'll met there soon and I'll let you make fun of me for being such a logical being and not letting my emotions drive my reasoning instead like most believers do. Mostly a joke. I know Im saying stupid things tbh so dont take it seriously.

[@TheVMbros]

I am confused regarding Nietzsche’s assertion that the metaphysical “world” doesn’t exist. The origin of my confusion lies in the fact that Nietzsche “lost” himself in his exploration of the unconscious mind… a realm which escapes the physical world. Am I wrong to assume that the unconscious is a metaphysical realm? If so, why? Edit: I understand that Nietzsche’s criticism is of the “permanent, good and divine metaphysical world” presented by Anaximander, Plato, etc. In that case I understand his stance, but just because this definition of the metaphysical is unacceptable to many, it doesn’t mean that such a realm of reality is an impossibility. Edit #2: I realize now the flaw in my previous logic. The unconscious mind has a physical basis (the brain), so it cannot be considered a metaphysical realm. Furthermore, the definition which we designate to this reality is of little importance… given that even if such a realm did exist, it is unreachable to us. Therefore, it is senseless to hold any conviction of it’s truth.

[@siyaindagulag.]

I perceive this along with Jung when he wrote of the "Numina"/"Numinous". I must agree in part, with Neitzsche's assertion of the world behind the world as being a negative , his "abyss" being but a frightening slice of it.

[@gabymoekoe]

13:58 you wrote constituent but i think you meant to say "constitution" :o not sure if KZbinrs can edit this...? just thought i'd help point it out :)

[@M64936]

From what I understand I agree with the creator of the video; the Greeks were the first culture to progress from mythology. Although other cultures had elements of rational speculative thought, their metaphysics was imbued with stories of gods and personal forces, and hence was mythological. The Greeks removed the gods from the scene, put forth metaphysical systems involving impersonal natural forces, and in doing so progressed from mythology to philosophy.

[@enxiom5185]

If only Nietzsche knew how modern physics is close to metaphysics he will certainly change his mind. Bare in mind that his philosophy was strongly influenced by scientific theories at that time.

[@mikediamantakis5528]

how exactly do modern physics, point to metaphysics?

[@METALFACE-33rd]

Rather insightful and thouroghly entertaining many thanks!

[@getAliKhan]

Information creates metaphysical structures that make the experience of physical existence possible. To deny the existence of this concentric world is the same as a fish denying the existence of water. The other side of the coin is that physical existence makes information possible. To deny this would be the same as trying to prove experience can exist independent of observation. Assigning hierarchy in this interdependent system or imposing comparison within its complimentary nature is more a function of a social will to power than an earnest attempt at objectivity. These guys are some of the greatest philosophical geniuses in history. I’m just a middle aged systems analyst. So there is your grain of salt, just say’n.

[@davisdavis1347]

Nah. That phone call that came with my ringer off while I was down the street, I felt it. When my grandmother died 1000s of miles away with no warning except a feeling and called home, it was true. Maybe all that falls under precognition. Whats the difference between that and metaphysical connection?

[@marcpadilla1094]

Niesztche's aphorism that a mans maturity may lie in the seriousness he once had as a child at play.

[@umerasim8307]

the metaphysical idea of a higher worrld also rest on mathematics and it's ontological status, if so, does neitzsche account for it? or is it merely psychological in his view point?

[@pradeepy3444]

Greatly insightful!! Please tell me first book of him and to the last, which I should read in order.

[@iloveowls8748]

Which works are you citing from?

[@Teddy_Toto]

It seems to me that Nietzsche has replaced one metaphysical need with another. ‘This world is the will to power - and nothing besides!’ This interpretation is itself satisfying a (the same?) need for the world beyond our immediate sense perception. The world as will is just as much a product of imagination as Anaximander’s world or Plato’s.

[@phoebushelius9264]

He based that on physical observation (natural selection).

[@derriduresique5627]

"You have your way. I have my way. As for the right way, the correct way, and the only way, it does not exist." That's not the best quote to support what I'm going to say, but I can't find the one that talks about him being fine with people calling his ideas an interpretation. I think it's in "Thus Spoke Zarathustra". I think he recognized he was placing a DIFFERENT goal for mankind, and that mankind (modern human anyway) REQUIRES thought beyond "sense-perception". He goes into it VERY HEAVILY in the first section of "Beyond Good and Evil" about how ALL thinking is a comparison of CURRENT sense perception, and IMAGINED (future or past) sense perception. He calls it (not coins it) Judgement "a priori".

[@Tehz1359]

@@derriduresique5627 I think you are correct. As an existentialist, Nietzsche knew that sense-perception or pure reason could never give a complete account of the human condition and experience.

[@jontyfernandez5146]

My favorite channel. Easy

[@Dopemarcelo]

where does the picture at 9:36 come from? thanks for the great work as usual, greetings from germany!

[@germanenriquez8891]

That's The Divine Comedy! The picture is Gustave Dore's Circle of Angels

[@sircrackboi]

i feel peace and beauty in thinking about whats beyond existence

[@PhilCallis]

I think you can consider the Visible World and the "Real World" as the "state of the world at a given point in time" and the "nature/action/organization of the world over all time". The time-independent world is inherently abstract and is thus populated by archetypes, both in form and in narrative. Kind of goes along with As Above, so Below, rewritten as "The state of the world at a given point in time is relative to the nature of the world over all time".

[@WolfHeart98]

Philosophical question: What are the pros and cons of believing in Nietzsche? if there is an afterlife, wouldn't it be good to believe in that as insurance? Like, if he's right you don't lose anything by believing (except maybe some affirmative action on earth) but if he's wrong than you get into that afterlife

[@richgreen3459]

I'd like to know about a piece of art in this episode but cant find the link

[@James-ll3jb]

Anaximander "proposed the visible world to have its source in a metaphysical world he called infinite, indefinite, and boundless. All things emanated from this metaphysical world. And upon perishing all things returned to this infinite source."

[@xthrax]

Why does the metaphysical world have to be good or orderly? could it not be bad and full of chaos such as the one in the stories of hp Lovecraft

[@jammasterj13]

I call that living in hell ie Chaos

[@xthrax]

@@jammasterj13 That's the point. When did we reach the conclusion that this metaphysical world is better than our own? If we're taking shots in the dark as to what this "true world" is, we could just as easily say it is an infinitely bad one only full of horror and chaos.

[@tarnishedpose]

@@xthrax if I got it right... that's Nietzsche's point. For him, there was a psychological need to believe in this "outworld". It is a desesperated attempt to find some sense in the real world. This world, the one we live in, it is what it is. People struggle with this ide, so they need to believe that there must be something else than just... it. They cant accept that this, the "real world"... this is it So, my guess is that Nietzsche was pointing out the motivations a person could have to jump to the conclusion that a metaphysical world/Heaven/higher dimension/alternative reality or whatever it could be called like must exist. If that's not really what Nietzsche's had in mind, then I'll be glad to say that it is in mine. Im not discussing the idea of its existence, but the reason people people need to believe that it in fact exists and I can easily agree with each of Nietzsche's quotes in this video. Althought not entirely, since the quotes in this video contains some words to give names to the people who believed in the metaphysical world... words that I would avoid to use for obvious reasons. I mean, calling someone a coward for believing in somethin is not my way of thinking

[@sonamtipotas8564]

Great videos,can you maybe do a video on Emerson?

[@freya5902]

He has, have you seen it?

[@in2dionysus]

Best yet!

[@ChrisBillows]

Nietzsche was a materialist evidently. His philosophy was so highly rationale, he ignored that nihilism permeated his world view despite his claims otherwise. His world view could not accommodate what he could not see or imagine. He preached strength and greatness to rise above the masses yet the proof of his folly being his descent into madness and suicide. Nietzsche remains a cautionary tale!

[@azzx5738]

Remain faithful to the earth and all its beauty.🌍

[@philippecusson4153]

I think we can assume that the metaphysical world could be the information theory in physics.

[@halwag]

Actually, Buddhism discusses similar metaphysics (anicca,etc.) Very cogent lecture. The voice of the narrator seems that of a...9 year old whose voice hasn't yet cracked. Doesn't sound 'wise', yet the text is profound. Keep up the production.

[@rgaleny]

life is not a meaning, it is a desire. Charlie Chaplin - limelight

[@kalypsokoda3653]

Robert Galletta love

[@c.galindo9639]

Robert Galletta Nietzsche believed life was both a meaning and desire. He just didn’t believe anything was beyond our reality is all

[@katskyofficial]

Is the voice of the narrator the same guy that does the spirit science videos?????

[@hyperportal8899]

I feel sad for people disconnected from spirit. I have been there.

[@moshefabrikant1]

Beyond the physical stuff

[@thothegyptian6708]

What about the DMT-realm?

[@tracyeichel5820]

I just love you're channel..... I get lost in all the common sense.

[@keshavfulbrook6698]

Hindus sought to explore the fabric of reality and metaphysics long before the Greeks. The Greeks were influenced by Hindu thought via Alexander and other Greeks that had contact with Indus civ.

[@latinoveteran8342]

Great video.

[@chrissidiras]

Metaphysics is a greek word (μεταφυσική) and means "after physics", not "beyond physics". It's the name of Aristotle's book, exactly because it was written after "physics".

[@martin36369]

Finding a psychological need for the creation of a metaphysical world does not mean it doesn't actually exist, I like to think that the quantum wave function is such a world

[@vazjc]

Would this fall into dreaming? Not the one that happens during sleep but the make-believe one or the dream on all the motivational posters.

[@snoxbox]

That was awesome

[@DavidMccallister65]

If only we could see where he is now and ask him how he feels about it now.

[@ravikumarh8886]

The very idea that the world has 'No beginning and No ending ' is metaphysics itself. Because such an idea cannot come under any physical law of nature. I wonder 'how could one having this idea of No beginning No ending denys the reality of metaphysics.

[@moephillips7539]

I feel insecure sharing my opinion cuz im an uninformed 16 yo intellectual, but im sure many of us feel unsatisfied by the 2 world allegory not really having a transcendence from the early dogma that nietzsche critiques. Here’s what i’d like to propose: The metaphysical reality, infinite and rational in its indescribable way, is the fabric with which we interact through our consciousness. We use our minds to give it shape, but to me, it is the reality which isn’t physical, simply that. Patterns in the nature of reality, that as humans, we develop into concepts. Nietzsche was right in that it is absurd to moralize these, for they coexist with each other in a manner. Codependent. Both going beyond good and evil. Lastly, wouldn’t the goal of a philosopher be to describe a reality of this type. Before watching this video, I would’ve thought Nietzsche was a metaphysicist in its righteous form, for he has this capacity of finding patterns and discrepancies deep-rooted in reality. Please let me know what you think, after reading some comments i saw some of you were inclined to this interpretation.

[@sunilrampuria7906]

I'm sorry to say that you didn't get it. I'd recommend you to study mathematics before trying to interpret these philosophical ideas. Don't be one of the heard. Try to be more rigorous.

[@badmudafucka4448]

@@sunilrampuria7906 a fool is a man of certainties

[@Jim-Tuner]

Well. Oddly, most "science" and math ends up being somewhat of a metaphysical exercise. We take sets of observation data and then force the data into artificial models we create which may or may not reflect the underlying reality. If you spend enough time in it, you reach wave-particle duality, the uncertainty principle, probabilistic results in quantum physics and all sorts of other things which point to the insufficient nature of our models. Then you look at the math and the more time spent there, the more you find out that nearly all the most interesting problems can be shown by proof to have no solution. Then there is consciousness which we don't understand at all and can't really define in a satisfactory way. Nietzsche's critiques of metaphysics always seem to degenerate into a narrow critique of religious metaphysics and dualism in Christianity. But metaphysics in the broad sense is an acceptance that there are valid questions that cannot find answers within observational-based science.

[@rgaleny]

There are really three world in the argument. The two physical world and the one religious. From dust you came and to dust you shall return. And matter precipitates out of a primordial field. Matter and energy to us. The religious is a poem.

[@hazedblue7]

if nietzche thought the idea of permanence is what motivated them to seek out a stable metaphysical world, then why did he propose alternatively to the darwinian theory that humans want to "be more and gain power" instead of just wanting to be immortal

[@to.pacheco]

Are you sure Heraclitus was not a metaphysicist? many sources claim he was...

[@DippingAtoe]

Great vid but full quote references would be useful x

[@EfrainMcshell]

why to create phantasmagoric worlds? The reality of this moment is what i have, and that is gone, i guess I am still here writing, then... thanks for all your great ideas

[@xMXWLx]

youre telling me ive known metaphysics since i was 8?

[@F8LDragon2]

A physical world is simply a way to think about what is. Most accurately represented by numbers. Nothing IS anything other than exactly as it is. Can only be understood by symbolism, most accurately mathematical pattern symbolism

[@johncorreia2108]

Our thoughts and dreams originate in the metaphysical world. first you dream it then you live it. Stay Free

[@falsexgrindx378]

Our thoughts and dreams are always just impressions and re-imaginings of things that exist in the physical world though.

[@youngsteven1473]

A surprisingly unenlightened insight of Egyptian metaphysics. Research Hermiese Trismegustus

[@sheldonscott4037]

Hermes.

[@marcpadilla1094]

As far as im concerned Plato nailed the concept of Philosopher Kings and the realm of forms. I think i just gave an example of metaphysics.

[@lucifersvision8005]

Profile pic = Link, no?

[@ZS05]

And now I know what metaphysics means. I was super scared for years to take the class. Maybe I can do it now? Or maybe I still know nothing of metaphysics?

[@blacocloc2201]

We get confused by languages and words, yet not one man has been able to imagine in words.

[@mementocatharsis9372]

"don't let the imagining become impure through words, even once, or the picture you dictate is wrong. Instead, let the picture you dictate be true so that the imagination has no choice but to follow through and only know facts, and by this, know the shape of reason, and discover the wheel of truth" - Memento Catharsis

[@Orgotheonemancult]

"For there is nothing at all we could state about the metaphysical world except its differentness inaccessible and incomprehensible to us. It would be a thing with negative qualities." "Wow. Thats's crazy... have you ever tried DMT?"

[@BryanRolstad]

I contemplated this without previous knowledge of such.

[@OmnipotentApplle]

I love Nietzsche and he's certainly a giant among philosophers, but I think McKenna, Jung and Rogan would encourage him to take a whack at some DMT before jumping to conclusions haha. What a shame it is that he wasn't around to sort out our frontiers of mind, but I guess that's a job that's up to us!

[@kevinmcelroy1849]

Never mention Joe Rogan in the same sentence as McKenna, Jung, and Nietzsche 😭😭 haha

[@n.w.aicecube5713]

No wonder why Nietzsche is feared so much by religions.

[@iga279]

If a guy who studies physics is a physicist, why is a guy who studies metaphysics called 'metaphysician', and not metaphysicist ?? It has nothing to do with medicine; another one of English inconsistencies ??

[@jichaelmorgan3796]

Modern French physicien means "physicist". Our version of physicist is a relatively new word, 19th century, and physician is over 600 years years older (1200). So a combinations of those things caused the possible misattribution and inconsistency.

[@LSxEnergetic]

For me i have learned from suffering, and i gain mainly happiness from PURPOSE, it´s the basis of most of my good times, when i dream i always add purpose to it, and purpose that must fit to reality and therefore i must struggle to try to adabt myself and my dreams :) Happiness can be found in ones own found and created purpose, mainly purpose which reach others around you in a positive manner/way. Improve yourself and your surroundings, whethers its at work, a short or long term project. "Think positive, become positive" :)

[@halwag]

Rewrite: As for me, I ..., and gain happiness from purpose in life, the basis of ???. When I dream ..purpose.??? reality? (but dreams aren't reality). Thus, I struggle ..to adapt myself to my dreams.???

[@Silentguy_78]

But what about gaining happiness by creating purpose in a negative manner

[@patri1689]

Great presentation, one has to admit. Personally, I was avoiding F.Nietzsche for long time for I knew he was radically anti-Faith in God, especially anti Jesus Christ. But now a bit mature in my faith and spiritual experience, Nietzsche in fact is helpful to examine my motive and see the motive of others for the need for God. Personally, my need was peace and about a decade ago, I've experienced a deep joy which can only come from the other world, true and peaceful realm.

[@derriduresique5627]

You might want to read him yourself...

[@JeffCaseyTV]

The Greeks were just the first to popularize metaphysics in the western world. Cultures in the East and Levant had metaphysical concepts for generations before.

[@metaphysicalmuse2773]

I dig this 💜

[@happygucci5094]

Isn't there a metaphysic within the 'mythologies' of Ancient Egypt and the Upanishads and the Eastern Asian belief traditions?

[@reyskully7778]

My understanding of this topic has lead me to believe that there was once a time when people saw no distinction between reality as a whole as it truly is. Overtime a dualistic perception clouded the minds of humanity. I feel as though we still wrestle with this perception. I personally don’t believe in a dualistic reality but at the same time I do. I understand that I can hold two or more understandings of reality and not invalidate either idea in any way. If u were to say to me that I was wrong I would have to agree with you but if u could agree with me I also couldn’t argue that either. I believe this portion of reality the lower vibrating aspect of reality will always have a sense of dualistic nature to it. I also believe a reality of conceptual reality exists as well. It’s a pleasure if infinity but it’s also just as ever changing as the reality we physically inhabit. And I believe beyond that is that which is called the source of being itself, this is a place of pure unadulterated being not bound by perception so it is eternal. I believe as we give up our perceptions we might just be able to “be”. I apologize if I can’t convey this notion I experience and strive to embody beyond this. I’d be writing up a Bible just trying to explain this and at the end of it all I’d never have explained a thing, I’d only have danced around it like a shaman dances around a flame.

[@rawmilk1770]

Phantasmagoria😃

[@orbitalsatellite]

i propose that if a true world exists, humans would grow weary of it's evenness in one minute flat and quickly become insane. they would suddenly wonder what they would do for all eternity. incidentally, various scriptures barely hint at what heaven entails. is there ten-pin bowling? can you build a garden? would we eat and drink? give me imperfection coupled with perfection any day! let me accept the little time i have and make the most of it! give me pain, so that i may experience joy, give me darkness, so i can experience light, give me hatred so i can experience love. we must learn to appreciate the balance that surrounds us. relativity is divine, nothing else!

[@c.galindo9639]

orbitalsatellite people actually believed what you found in reality here escapes you so really you don’t wander amongst your own mind but are absolute in your own sense. Whether it be good or bad it’ll be what you will become.

[@RobFraxedas]

the fallacy of this particular critique is that Nietzsche's argument, when applied to itself, destroys itself. his assumption that there is no reality beyond the "true" material can also be dismissed as all-too-human wishful thinking; preferring to keep one's head in the sand in fear, instead facing the almost certain possibility that death is not the end of the story, or is exactly, or not at all, as described in the great myths of humanity

[@Something775]

You're assuming that Nietche believed that there was no metaphysical world. This isn't accurate, rather he simply didn't believe in a metaphysical world. Very big difference. To be clear, Nietzsche didn't really believe in anything, he didn't even believe in the concept of existence itself. The phrase "I think therefore I am" for example is one that he took issue with because it presupposed that there was an "I" to think in the first place, a more accurate description of reality from Nietzsche's perspective would be more along the lines of "there is a thought". Nietzsche was skeptical of everything and believed that the absolute belief in anything was absurd. This does not however mean that he believed in nothing. Nietzsche believed that our reality is constructed upon that which we can perceive, and while there may exist things beyond that scope, and these perceptions themselves may be flawed, to deny our perceptions is to deny reality itself and is therefore a pointless endeavor. Regardless of whether or not free will is an illusion or life is a fabrication, what remains true is that we still make choices and we still live. We still experience this reality, and no other. The problem with a belief in the metaphysical world isn't that this belief is necessarily wrong, but that it forces you to deny what is right in front of you in favor of that which you cannot perceive. We have one life, this life, and if we don't embrace it along with all the joys and sufferings that it brings, then we ultimately have nothing at all except for, as you said, wishful thinking. You made a mistake when you referred to his impression of the material world as "true". The very notion of a "true" world to him was a lie. What we have instead is an "apparent" world.

[@mentalityisking7084]

If there is life after death it isn't permanent in the way we think it is, infinity needs to be met with a desire for it.. if we desire infinity, what does that entail? most people agree that even if heaven was great it wouldnt be great forever permanently, we would eventually get bored or used to it, and the desire would change. What may be the case is something that persists in infinite forms to be rediscovered infinitely amounts of time with infinite amounts of information

[@papamarfo9369]

"Darwin posited natural selection as being an undesigned process, however, he was unsure of whether there might be an overarching goal or purpose to the process of evolution - some ultimate end all life was moving toward- and he never made any clear statement affirming or denying such an idea." Does anyone have a quote from Darwin that proves that " he never made any clear statement affirming or denying such an idea." ?

[@XxPunxunite]

Quite a mind-blowing statement. I would love to know if he had a guess as to what lies at the end of evolution

[@tobydude7462]

@@XxPunxunite I imagine something similar to a jellyfish lies at the end of evolution

[@gregsmith1719]

It's 'trying' to believe, i.e. HOPEING, something 'other' exists, from which we sprang. Do the sparrows wonder so?

[@666TheMetalmaniac666]

Well he was wrong on that. As physics and science (pure reason) evolved we can postulate that the visible world is a mirage of a more complex reality. Sure the metaphysical world as portrayed in this video dont exist, but to assume that the atomic interactions thus the visible world are the only existing thing in space is to go against science and reason. As astrophysics evolved we came to a conclusion that there is 95% of the universe that is Dark matter/energy which isn't in the realm of the visible universe. This could be from wrong estimations and modelisations or incorrect laws. However, this illustrate the absurdity of thinking that that the electromagnetics forces and atomic interractions are the absolute reality. There could be a sea of others ''realities'' all around us, but since atoms dont interact with them we are forever in the dark.

[@Music_Creativity_Science]

***** Precisely. Why is the moon attached to the earth with just empty space between them ? It isn't empty in the real reality, there must be something. Just "gravitation" isn't the answer, what does it consist of ?

[@raibirsingh9016]

Keep reassuring yourself with those ideas. Our Defense mechanisms shall be our undoing

[@spom9898]

+raibir singh don't you think as humans evolve the visible world grows with us? Say back in Greek times they knew space existed , something beyond earth but couldn't see it. To them would that not be the metaphysical world? Then as we evolved now space is a fact, it's in our visible world/universe. Similar to how now we know something exists throughout space but can not know for sure what it is perhaps there will come a day when we can, who knows.

[@eclipse5393]

+666TheMetalmaniac666 You're taking visible way too literally which is stupid. Always check your own understanding firsthand.

[@raibirsingh9016]

Dude . I know you're trying to Find ways of trying to implements metaphysical modes of thinking in things because there are hardly any means to do so in life . But what you are implying is quite contrived and vague. Don't pull wool over your own eyes man. Don't tie yourself to ideas. Just be a medium man, for ideas to perpetuate themselves through.