ACC | I Gave It One More Try… LFM GT3 @ Nürburgring

[@chrisrogerssimracing]

Thanks for all your comments and advice. I know I’m a bit ‘rusty’ after quite a long break from ACC, and that my braking and corner speed wasn’t quite up to standard. And I can see why this is putting me (and those behind me) in more danger. Also, I know it’s completely my own fault for losing my rating - I chose to DNF, and I was fully aware of what this would do to my rating. As you’ll know from my other videos, I ALWAYS try to finish a race. But I was feeling so despondent after these, I just couldn’t face it. I WILL be back very soon, and I promise I’ll try to practice more and be better prepared. Thank you 😃

I would recommend giving PitSkill a try. It has only 2-3 races daily so no hourly races but it's less populated and more of a community racing the same people over and over again so I would say most of the people take extra care, but I can't say incidents don't happen.

[@shieldyourselfmusic8567]

Sorry Chris this is main reason i quit online racing - That sigh at 6:41 sums it all up

[@chrisrogerssimracing]

Yeah mate, there have been a lot of those sighs coming out of my race chair lately 🤣

[@RyansnevetS]

Sorry to see that you’ve been having such a tough time lately Chris! It can be really tough to stay motivated when you’re in a streak of bad luck. I hope you’re able to still find some joy in the hobby! Can’t wait for more videos!

[@chrisrogerssimracing]

Ahh thank you mate. Yeah I was really hoping the time out would reset things, but it seems it’s still just as crazy as ever out there! I’ll maybe give one of the other series a try… GT4 was generally kind to me the few times I raced it last season. Cheers 😃

[@jamesgilbert942]

I stick to single player mode for the same reason

[@MrWatton]

Oh Chris! You’ve not had the best of luck lately 😢 but keep plugging away at it. Damn these rear end drillers!

[@andyking05]

Try a different sim, or a different series/league

[@jamesgilbert942]

@@chrisrogerssimracing for me I stick dokey to ams2 single player now since 1.5 update the game is well better with the physics and ai

[@73kimbern]

Only just discovered your channel. Your videos are brilliant. Great commentary and you’re not an alien like the other youtubers (still a mile better than me though). I’m now an avid subscriber.

[@chrisrogerssimracing]

Ahhh thank you mate, and welcome to the channel! My videos aren’t usually as negative as this one, promise! 🤣

[@AffyKoupps]

why use brakes, when you can use the car in front to stop 😅

[@fil_lokka]

Ive recently started running raceroom and as usual the rookie lobbies are great, mistakes are made and crashes occur but on the whole great racing. I feel some sims are a victim of success when it come to online play

[@s3nTer]

Yeah, racing online is a thrill but a huge risk as well. If you're a streamer or someones with plenty of free time then it's not big of a deal if your race gets ruined, you can jump back onto next one. But unfortunately a lot of people can get 1-2 race per week at best.

[@chrisrogerssimracing]

You’re spot on there. That’s why I get so frustrated… I set an hour or two aside each week to get my race in, and often it’s over within the first lap. I guess a lot of these drivers happily do 4-5 races a day. If they mess one up, it’s no big deal for them as they just go back an hour later.

[@tonesnaps]

thank you for sharing i hope this puts pressure on LFM to make some changes and more aggressive penalties for driving standards

[@hansolo631]

I play ACC sometimes but never online - do they segregate by platform? If it was up to me, they'd segregate by platform and by control method. Playing with console controller players is going to be a nightmare everytime

[@bensoniusprime]

People just don’t understand how to race cleanly. It’s a problem on iracing too. People are so concerned with rankings or simply their ego that they drive far too aggressively and prioritize risky moves and take extreme risks to gain a place or two instead of driving conservatively and finishing the race. I’ve had a terrible time in LFM RF2 races. iracing is a little bit cleaner but I see the same thing there occasionally. Ironically I think the more competitive the racing gets the more people are willing to risk it all for a momentary advantage. LFM has fewer users and thus fewer splits and I think the larger gap between player skills leads people to do whatever they think they can to gain an advantage, especially early in the race when the cars are bunched up. Personally, I hate gaining a ton of positions early in the race because it means that people who were spun earlier in the race will be charging back through the field with their temper up and desperate to make up positions. That’s when you’ll see the dive bombs or people trying to pass where they have no business making the attempt. It’s tough out there for someone who doesn’t care overly much about rankings or position and just wants to have fun and race pretend race cars from their bedroom.

[@chrisrogerssimracing]

It’s a great point you make about gaining loads of positions on lap 1. I feel exactly the same! In my early days, it was always a real thrill to see 4-5 of the front-runners spinning out and picking up loads of early positions. But that excitement soon turns to terror when the same people close back in behind you, driving angry and in a big hurry to grab their positions back.

[@sheffbrick_racing]

Sorry to hear this Chris, I had the same at the Hungaroring a few weeks back, I was hit 5 times and lost my license. It’s just not fun, I raced in apex online and the driving and was much better, lfm isn’t fun at the moment. Hope you get back on track soon

[@brianstoneley227]

I have only just started sim racing at age 68 and have had to put the time in to get my SA rating in ACC up to 82. As a newbie I get frustrated but other drivers on multi player servers who ram into you for no good reason. It’s not right. I am practicing to get quick enough to pass the seven clean consecutive laps test on LFM to get my rookie license. I’m several seconds off the pace at present. It’s certainly immersive and there’s so much to learn, which i quite like. Thanks for your videos, best wishes Brian.

[@chrisrogerssimracing]

Hi Brian, great to hear you’re on the way to getting your LFM licence. Don’t let these videos put you off! I’ve had loads of great runs in this series but, just like any sim, you’re always going to have the odd bad race. I’m just in an unlucky run at the moment, and they’ve all occurred so close together! I’ll look forward to hearing how you get on.

[@davidontherailroad]

I'm so sorry you had another rough two races. There is just so much to keep track of in the early laps when all the cars are still bunched up, people are bound to make mistakes. I remember going through something similar a while back. I got through it by essentially staying at the back for the first couple of laps. I'd only start trying to make progress once I'd seen the cars had spread out a bit. Even then, I would still hang back if I came across a clump of cars racing each other. Sometimes I would just find a gap where I wasn't coming under pressure from behind and I would just stay in it. It wasn't always the most exciting racing, but I did manage to start finishing some races.

[@chrisrogerssimracing]

Yeah, this was exactly the approach I was planning to take in race 1, but then I got sucked into the middle of that bunch when those two Lambos drove into each other. I should have done what you said, and hung further back when I saw all that happening.

[@davebantz274]

Love your commentary over your races.. Never heard anyone do this before.. Great Stuff.

[@chrisrogerssimracing]

Thank you mate, appreciate that! Yeah I wanted to do something a bit different with my vids, give it a bit more of a tv feel while retaining the gameplay footage. A bit of a different (and louder) alternative to the other sim racing YT channels. Thanks for watching!

[@davebantz274]

@@chrisrogerssimracing No problem mate, your welcome.... Yeah the commentary is great, you've got a commentators voice 👍🏻

[@simonoregan4744]

Welcome back. I can so relate to your recent experiences with sim racing. Haven't raced in a while for the same reasons

[@chrisrogerssimracing]

Thank you mate. I’d love to say it’s good to be back, but after these race experiences, I’m not so sure! I’ve been doing a bit of offline/AI racing in my time off, just so I can actually enjoy a full race without fear of being taken out. But back online, and I’m terrified as soon as anybody gets near me.

[@simonoregan4744]

Lol. Funnily Ive never been into racing AI. MP racing is what floats my boat. However recently a couple of weeks ago spent a whole week just racing against AI and it was more fun that I'd had in ages. However it didnt satisfy me for long. Game Muscle did a video on his idea of the best formula for online MP races. 15 minutes or 8 laps and damage off. After listening to his reasoning it makes allot of sense. This is why I often revert back to GT7. It seems to have a much better formula for me as a casual player who wants online racing. Only thing is GT7 as a sim is not as good as the PC sims and it does not make the most of all of my fancy hardware. I guess we can't have it all at the moment unfortunately

[@stormforce9521]

Great seeing you back, so disappointed it didn't turn out as hoped-for. Through your experiences in LFM I truly believe you've saved me the same fate , I've only entered one race , never again! Hopefully you can find some competitive clean racing away from the LFM mayhem and rebuild your confidence. Onwards and ⬆️

[@chrisrogerssimracing]

Thanks Tony, I like to provide a service… “racing the worst races so you don’t have to” I think should be my new catchline 🤣 haha

[@maxtoussaint6671]

I've only been playing racing games for like two or three years and I still have never raced against real people because I feel like this is the constant reality of simracing in the lower skilled community.. I can't find the motivation to try it on more "serious" sims like ACC or F1 because I know that would make me mad as hell. ( And I also know I could very well be the one losing control of my car 😅) I admire the positivity with wich you treat those incidents !

[@RRRsimracing]

yeah its hard to renain calm in these situstions. good points Chris

[@HazChem2285]

Oh man. That's such a shame. Such bad luck to have been wiped out twice on the trot. Maybe I will see you back in iRacing in the near future? Wherever you go, I hope you keep posting the videos, which are well put together and entertaining at least. Thanks, Chris

[@ondrejkratochvil4589]

Well Crossle 9s @ Ningbo Short Circuit is on the Friday SCB menu 😉

[@tonybracing3255]

Turn one heroes. No escaping them. I’ve stopped ACC completely because of this exact experience. It’s not your fault. People race like they are the only car on track. No consideration for traffic, conditions or tyres.

[@chrisrogerssimracing]

Thanks, yeah that’s the problem. It’s like they’ve practiced all week by hotlapping, and then never adjust to allow for the other cars on track. I do tend to race earlier in the week… someone else suggested racing later in the week, when more people are used to race conditions. So maybe that’s worth a try.

[@bluebird9378]

Hi. It's really a problem on LFM. I report at each race... What's the solution?

[@botterik81]

"I dont wanna jinx it, but things seems up for me" 🤣

[@johnsullivan937]

This is why I honestly just dont even bother with online. I get why its alluring to some, there is a high risk for bad races, but when you get in the right races it can offer some of the best virtual racing far beyond an AI lobby. But for me I just stick to AI, when I take the time to turn a game on, I juist want to relax. I find online games so much more stressful and sweaty. Constantly worrying about ruining other peoples games, while watching out for people ruining mine. Then you get the people that purposely go out of their way to wreck other drivers or team kill in shooters... I just dont think its for me anymore. I had good memories playing online in highschool when I had a massive list of people to join up with. But now In to my adult life being stuck playing with randoms is just a nightmare.

[@Barry_Mmm]

Hi Chris. Have you tried the the official Competition Servers? The fields are much smaller but I've had clean races so far. As if it was a lobby full of players seeking refuge from LFM. The races are on the hour and can be accessed from the multiplayer landing page.

[@chrisrogerssimracing]

Hiya Barry, no I’ve never tried one of those, and I’d never even really considered it as an option. But that’s really interesting to know that they can be decent… I’ll definitely check one out! Cheers mate 👍

[@88ights]

Hey buddy, glad you're at least trying to come back! I haven't properly sim race is months unfortunately. Ai races are a good alternative to try and get back into things!

[@chrisrogerssimracing]

Thanks, yeah I actually ran a couple of AI races during my time off, and enjoyed them far more than I remember. Definitely something I’ll be doing more of 👍

[@Revvol93]

best ACC videos on YT!

[@chrisrogerssimracing]

Ahh thank you mate 😃 just a shame I’m not getting much footage to work with at the moment! Haha

[@markopoolo]

I don't even enjoy online racing anymore and only really race with tweaked AI on iRacing as they have the best experience in my opinion. Some folk say that I'm crazy racing only AI on that platform and paying for the privilege but I can honestly say that the experience is amazing. 40 to 60 cars racing against each other and me included without any freakishness going on is gold to me.

[@jeff_tsc]

Hey Chris! Got a nice view of my overtake at the end of lap 1 there ;)

[@jester3265]

Please don't give up Chris, this type of driving is just not common place and gives ACC a really bad name. These drivers obviously are not used to driving in a pack with other cars around them. We love you Chris, your driving, your commentary. We can't afford to lose you. Best of luck in your contemplation Have you tried racing with SOP, AOR or ISR racing. All these clubs are so much cleaner drivers. Losing a driver who is so charismatic, fantastic to watch racing would be such a crying shame. Please, please don't retire, there are so many clubs offering so much more

[@chrisrogerssimracing]

Ahh thank you so much for those kind words, exactly what I needed to hear to lift my morale. I’m certainly not planning on quitting for good, I just need to find something different to race, where I’m more likely to enjoy it (and make it to the end of the race in one piece!). Realistically, I think a community or private league will be the way to go. Thanks again mate 😃

[@jester3265]

@@chrisrogerssimracing Oh absolutely. ISR Race Saturdays and as the summer goes races will increase again. SOP have a PS5 League I believe and FRL have races virtually every night of the week. Once you get to know and race with guys in a few seasons its like chalk n cheese to public racing. Wherever you end up, keep the videos coming, theyre engrossing, exciting and just brilliant to watch.

[@jamesbarrett9489]

Ive had similar luck lately. Sometimes it’s just not your day. Chin up. You’ll be back at it soon enough.

[@SmithersSimRacing]

Sorry to see this again after you having a rest from the game Chris, I was very happy when I seen your video up today when I got back from work seeing you back to where you belong mate but then see what happened, think ACC is getting like that alot lately me my self have not been on it for awhile gone to Iracing , the main thing is people love your content Chris so dont let this get you down mate.

[@MiPDarnok]

luckily there is a report system that works. It will take few weeks, but I believe that bad drivers will get enough bans soon. Also because SR limit for rookies was put up, top rookie splits are generally OK.

[@chrisrogerssimracing]

Yeah, I can speak highly enough of LFM’s report system. I love the way they do it, and the time that gets put in to making decisions (and the reasons for it) public. I did file one for my previous race in RF2 and I’ll do the same here. Thanks mate 😃

[@MiPDarnok]

@@chrisrogerssimracing The best thing about this report system is that it adds extra penalty seconds to the race, so I would highly encourage you to finish races and just report all the bad stuff that happens. This will always result in few places up, abusers getting scary of ban and triumpf of justice overall :D

[@KevinONeillPlus]

Man, I’ve been working my way through rookies and I’ve had one race in nine where I had a mad Brazilian taking people out until retired. I do race on a Saturday and Sunday which may help as most people have had some time to familiarise themselves with the track.

[@chrisrogerssimracing]

That’s a really good point, that I hadn’t thought of, thanks Kevin. I pretty much always race on a Monday or a Tuesday… so it’s quite likely I’m jumping straight into servers full of people who haven’t learned the track or their braking points yet. Maybe I should try waiting a few days, and race later in the week. Thanks for this… really helpful 😃

[@abexuro]

Yep. Thursday is usually my first race day, as I don't feel prepared and confident enough to do it any earlier in the week.

[@elwyncoe5798]

Ouch man I really do feel for you. I've also taken a break from lfm recently as of patch 1.9 I am also having a bad run of being off pace and also see the reckless driving increasing alarmingly. On a positive I had a cracking good battle for 2 straight laps of the nord on raceroom in the porsche cup so there's still some hope

[@chrisrogerssimracing]

Nice one, yeah it’s the hope that keeps us going! I know there are good races out there, just waiting to be found. I’m just struggling to find them at the moment 🤣

[@elwyncoe5798]

@@chrisrogerssimracing I hope you find some I like your commentary videos mate

[@OnlyMrFritz]

Please keep posting videos mate, great content and always entertaining with your commentary!

[@marcosicolo4542]

I'm having a great time racing on LFM. Yes, there are still a bunch of irresponsible drivers causing accidents but overall I get a lot of clean races. I joined about a month ago and started with the lowest 2.5 SR rating, I am now over 7 already. When you join a race during busy time over the weekend and you are in split 1 or 2, you will be racing with a lot of clean drivers with similar pace

[@Vonobox1]

I can totally relate. Have you thought about hosting your own races with the community? You'd be guaranteed better races and it'd make for great content! I'd definitely be up for taking part and I'm sure others would too

[@CodAndChips]

100% agree!. We couls have like a 2 strike ur banned from competing. Just got my lfm rookie license, did my first 45 min race yesterday first corner got rammed off the track.... i think there should be a ban or put rammers with rammers matchmaking system, they could have their fun and we could have ours.

[@Vonobox1]

@Chrisrogerssimracing how about it 😁

[@HansdeHeer]

Sad. Makes one wonder if the LFM rating and licensing system is maybe not good enough to weed out these drivers? One would not expect to see this kind of racing at any level above rookie?

[@chrisrogerssimracing]

The higher splits I’ve reached, the worse it seems to get, bizarrely. The LFM protest system is very good, but I suspect a lot of people just don’t want to spend the time filing reports (I’m as guilty as anyone for that). If I want to race a GT3 in LFM again, I’ll need to start back in the rookies… so it’ll be interesting to see what it’s like!

[@taxi615]

To think LFM is supposed to be the pinnacle of racing 😂

[@noobdaddyraces]

Look on the bright side - you are still making great videos. Been a while since I tuned in I must admit, but as entertaining as ever, despite the subject matter in this case. Hope you hang in there and maybe see you on track some time.

[@chrisrogerssimracing]

Ahh thanks mate, and very good to hear from you. My video output has dropped quite a bit this past month or two, but that’s mainly because I’m getting so very little good race footage to work with 🤣 I don’t like doing too many of these ‘moaning’ videos, but I’ve got nothing else to work with at the moment 🤣

[@noobdaddyraces]

​@@chrisrogerssimracingwell if you get really desperate for footage, in September we have Crew Motofest and in October it's Forza Motorsport, I'm sure a few videos 'from a sim racers perspective' would be welcome. They should both have reasonable wheel support.

[@PaulHester66]

I've done the start at back thing. If you're going to do it, stay at back til lap 2, the guys at the back are the worse

[@chrisrogerssimracing]

Haha yeah, I forgot my own game plan in that first race. Was all prepared to hang back, but when they all bunched together, I jumped straight in amongst it. Which was a big mistake!

[@JallyTee]

That was tough to watch mate, sorry you have had such a bad experience lately, I have been doing a lot less driving for the same reasons. Maybe its a wave of new drivers from summer break idk. I like to drive Formula ford and F4 in iRacing but it has been a mess too.

[@chrisrogerssimracing]

Yeah, F4 in iRacing was where it all started going wrong for me. Since then, I’ve tried various series in several sims, but not had much joy in any of them.

[@daviddanser8011]

I have much more fun now in BTCC RF2 on LFM. Cars aren’t spinning with every little touch so the racing in general is much more fun imo.

[@joevogt6804]

Hi Chris, I still haven't seen you in the M2 at LFM. Give that a try. This week Barcelona. Awesome track, awesome car, awesome races (mostly) 🙂

[@chrisrogerssimracing]

Ahh yes, the M2. I’m not going to get another chance to race this week, but I see it is at Zolder next week… one of my favourite tracks! So this race next week is the one I’m aiming for. Maybe see you there!

[@femolevsky]

Similar frustration, my channel is filled with scenarios like these. Luckily for me, I am able to sometimes make it through. One weekend, I had 16 races and only completed 4. Carnage is an understatement of some of the crashes we see. People who don't quali up the field think they can somehow get P1 at the start of the race, like everyone goes to sleep or something. Hang in there mate!

[@arunabharay1594]

dont give up man, would love to see u back at acc lfm

[@chrisrogerssimracing]

Ahh thanks mate, yeah I don’t want to ditch ACC as generally it’s been the one sim where racing has been a little bit cleaner for me lately. But the thought of starting again and working through rookies isn’t very appealing 🤣 my own fault, I knew I’d get hit heavy on the licence for two DNFs. Maybe I’ll try the GT4. Or somebody also recommended me the M2. Perhaps give that series a try.

[@shieldyourselfmusic8567]

@@chrisrogerssimracing Wreckfest?

[@deanothemanc5281]

Feel your pain here Chris, tbh that silver mclaren was ridiculous. I hope most of these so called driver's are a lot better at driving in the real world!!

[@chrisrogerssimracing]

Yeah, it never fails to amuse me how so many people manage to crash even before they make it to a corner 🤣

[@princealexander5137]

I did 2 LFM races at Nurburgring this week, same thing. Both times, carnage at T1, where I get taken out. And that's split 1. I've done about 15-20 open lobby races in the past 2 weeks, and ALL of them were fantastic. Yes, there was some bad driving here and there, but all races were super enjoyable. For the most part, really good battles. I don't know, but LFM these days isn't much better than public servers. Guys are super aggressive, because no one wants to lose any ELO. Maybe find a good league with weekly races, a smaller community where respect still matters. take care buddy!

[@robertodams]

You can hold your head high mate as your driving standards are top notch 😊 keep at it sir

[@sillymonkE73]

Hahaha! I’m not laughing at you, just at the misfortune. Hang in there and keep racing. Big fan of your driving and your videos.

[@chrisrogerssimracing]

Haha, don’t worry about it, I had to laugh at the sheer calamity of it all too 🤣 Thank you, and thanks for watching

[@Verndroid]

I dunno what you experience level is with LFM but if you haven't tried them yet then I would advise you to try out the 45min races with 1 mandatory pitstop. They are usually much more fun and the amount "I wanna win at T1"-drivers is somewhat reduced. Don't get me wrong. You can still find them there. But in my experience it is a better experience in the longer races. ;-)

[@MrPichichi78]

I agree with this. The longer races are tend to attract more reserved drivers and even if you do get smashed, you have time to recover.

[@luizarthurbrito]

Man, I feel really bad for ya hahaha. I haven't had 10% of the bad luck you've had on lfm. I'm a beginner as well.

[@kubeinsztain]

Man from the videos I saw people tend to race much better in public lobbies than on this whole LFM... Maybe they don't have the pace but they are much more careful

[@Walt1119]

NO NO NO,, NOT YOUR FAULT!! This is nothing more than a crash fest with no concern for anyone else and the attitude of "I'll just knock them out of the way" The biggest thing wrong with LFM is their incident reporting, it is so involved and difficult people just don't bother so this is what you end up with! Really unfortunate because LFM is a great platform, if they don't address the problem people with quit running their races. The really shame is that the incident reporting doesn't have to be that difficult, I ran into that a long time ago with LFM... Thanks for "trying" to share with us Chris!

[@ndcarter79]

Have you tried joining any private leagues? I race I. A couple and get to know all the drivers well. Much more respectful racing when you know each other and race together week to week. I’m on PS5 in Australia so there’s not a huge ACC following which makes these small leagues even better. Much more respectful racing

[@chrisrogerssimracing]

Yeah, I think this will be the direction I head in. I’ve done a few private league or community races in the past, most recently with SCB in the BTCC on rF2. But I’ve had a couple of kind invites lately from ACC leagues, which I’ll definitely take them up on.

[@ndcarter79]

@@chrisrogerssimracing that’s good to hear mate. I guarantee your much more suited to a private league. Your a gentleman driver and deserve to race against likeminded folk

[@JAILEDforMEMES]

I love the commentary Chris and the fact you call all drivers with full names. Sorry to see such a bad racing from others...

[@chrisrogerssimracing]

Thank you mate, appreciate the kind words. I dread to think how many names I’ve butchered with my poor pronunciation over the years 🤣

[@Biber2603]

Mate ❤ Was in that race too! Stephenson 😊 think was a rookie race 😂

[@SteveHARDWATER]

@Chris Rogers Sim Racing is there a way to race the entire nurburgring (long + short course together)?? I would love to see an enduro race of this. Tag me if you do it✋🏻

[@studio9guy]

I feel your pain, Chris. I'm going through similar scenarios. I finally got my Iron license, but immediately got sent back to rookies. It seems I get hit every race. It's frustrating, to say the least.

[@Marnie_Racing]

I feel the pain Chris😮‍💨 But you can have fun again if you might play some solo racing games😁

[@RachelJimenez717]

Ugh, I'm so sorry. I'm going through the same thing on iRacing this season. 😭

[@ericsartanahorner]

I feel your frustration. why are people even bothering to race, if they clearly have no racecraft? Just gotta try again lol

[@MrHypnoChef]

Hey Chris. That sucks. This is why a league would be great. To drive with people you know want to drive clean and not idiots out for the win on turn 1 lap 1.

[@SandooronBlitz]

More people need to see this. LFM is a joke. I am happy I switched to iRacing after trying LFM time and time again. Now I can finally enjoy racing.

[@tracklizard4018]

I found iRacing to be just as bad and I tried it for a YEAR! No different, only worse feeling, terrible graphics (generally don't care but some tracks look like a game I had from 1999), and incredibly expensive.

[@mad-b264]

I find myself putting on AMS 2 when I step into the Sim Rig, It is the only Sim Title I put on lately, And the Multiplayer is getting more busy since the new v1.5 update, I never seen it so busy, And I have also had some great races online, Some of the best fun I have had is on AMS 2, Plus you ain't stuck with just a GT class.... One thing that is probably putting people off ACC because it puts me off ACC, No Nürburgring Nordsleife track, After a while the same tracks over an over get on my tit, I needs a break from the same tracks every time I put the game on, In other words I gets board on ACC, I would actually pay good money for the green hell in ACC, And probably put on ACC a lot if it had the full Nürburgring, After all GT3 cars do race on the track, lol, I mean they could put it in as an extra DLC, It probably coz of AC2 is coming out.... Yeah I find myself on AMS 2 a lot lately....

[@IDEONEvE]

on the unholy 4 tracks, stewards should really ban people left right and center to get any sort of order into it...(NBR/Monza/Spa/Silverstone)

[@chrisrogerssimracing]

Haha yeah, it does seem to bring out the craziness in people. T1 is tough, so I kinda get that. But the rest of the track, I’ve got no idea why! 🤣

[@1freddy1b]

add Watkins glen to that list.

[@VillanSka]

Unbelievable, what is wrong with people! Keep going though, there is a clean race out there..................somewhere!

[@PaulMartIn-dm5oi]

ACC, takes one from racing driver to prey in 2 corners. What do you expect from a console game?😂 Come enjoy some GT3 action in rF2 at SCB, starts next Wednesday evening, 23/08. All the tracks are in race info, free to download and all abilities are welcome, even back markers like yourself! 🤣6 race series and with a fast/not so fast and welcoming bunch of enthusiasts. You will also know the majority of tracks!

[@chrisrogerssimracing]

Thank you, yes I fully intend to be there… if not for the entire series, certainly for several rounds. Got a BMW M4 all bought and paid for, but never used, so it’ll be the perfect chance to get some return on my investment 🤣

[@kyuzotatsuya9641]

Don't know whats been happening with ACC recently, in the last few months the driving standards have been shocking - I watched a back marker punter the leader of the race off at Donington as he was getting lapped! Try something different and hopefully sanity will return at some point! Take care Chris

[@56rogerleopardi]

Now you should give us a join Chris :)

[@chrisrogerssimracing]

Ahhh yes, I’ve been meaning to email you this week… I’ll be in touch very shortly about that!

[@gavinmoore8802]

I know it a not a ‘proper sim,’ but I’d love to see you make some GT7 vids, it’s much more forgiving.

[@chrisrogerssimracing]

I’m not precious about how ‘real’ a sim it is… I’ll play anything if it’s fun! I don’t own a PS but it is something I’ve considered, to give GT a try. There’s also the Forza Motorsport coming soon, which may be another more casual option.

[@mrmidnight32]

Sucks LFM has really gone down hill. LFM was made to literally escape exactly this. Sad..

[@marcusmiller8267]

If you are qualifying about mid-pack (about where I'm at) your pace is fine. Lack of consideration and poor racecraft from other drivers sucks the joy out of online racing. I occasionally make mistakes that negatively effect my fellow drivers as well. We are all human. But common people, at least TRY to be patient pick your spots!

[@nakazonegamestreaming896]

honestly this is unacceptable, and the fact that we lose so many point even when we are crashed onto makes me hate LFM, I had good SR and all and now due to this vandals I am as low as someone can be. I started and right away became a patreon thinking it would be cool to help, no more!

[@BOTRacing]

My goodness. I have been the one to cause these wrecks, but your rating is so much higher that you are with people with WAY more XP then I had when I done that. No excuses for that driving.

[@meamjustme]

I have been sim racing for about 15 years. Mostly singeplayer because bs like this. Had ACC since the first early acces was released. Never really played it untill this month. Tried a few online races and it is so bad out there.... My first decent race i did get hit 2 times by somebody getting frustrated and just braking way to late, hoping to get by. And i am so carefull to get out of the way of people. And than the chat is like a freaking COD lobby. Never seen that in sim racing before. Sad to see. :(

[@depitónapitón2258]

Hey Chris, what can be done to make people understand that if we all run clean we have more fun?

[@chrisrogerssimracing]

This is what I can’t understand. Most of the people causing these accidents are ruining their own races as well, so I just don’t get it. I can only assume it’s because they’ve got the free time to do 4-5 races a day… so to them, it’s worth taking the big risks and crashing, because they can keep coming back to it every hour until they get lucky and pull it off. But that’s no good for people like me, who only have time for 1-2 races a week. It’s very frustrating!

[@depitónapitón2258]

@@chrisrogerssimracingI agree with you

[@cjhawkins1984]

I gave up on LFM a few months ago. Last race I got wrecked three different times by the same guy. In frustration after the 3rd wreck, I hit him back. Guess who got his safety rating reset, and got a 28 day ban? Me. I just can't race in that league anymore.

[@daviddavies3637]

Bloody hell. Trying hard not to let rip. Which split are you driving in? I'm usually in 4 or 5 and while the pace isn't as high as it is higher up, judging by this mess, drivers tend to be more cautious because they're trying to protect their safety rating so that they don't end up in Rookies again. Had a few minor bumps last night in the two races I did but nothing major. Seems like in higher lobbies, the drivers are so full of themselves that they think they're Max Verstappen but are, in fact, the driving equivalent of Eddie "The Eagle" Edwards. Don't give up on LFM, though, Chris. A couple of the crashes were caused by a lack of anticipation by the driver behind. Not everyone's going to have the same braking point and drivers need to be way more aware of that than they are. We do need people to report incidents more regularly, although judging by their Discord server, LFM's stewards already have their hands full.

[@brtcobra]

once past this rookie stage things get better. never give up 👍👍

[@dante316a]

This aint rookie stages its coach dave sprints, idk but i think there are more dirty drivers on this races than on rookies. When you race vs 5.00 sr drivers all of them are aware of sr, but when its vs 7-8-9 sr they just dont care if they lose some sr points they still wont be demoted.

[@MrPichichi78]

I actually think Rookies is cleaner since everyone is more focused on upping their SR

[@ericjack3218]

Chris, none of that was your fault! And from what I'm seeing on other channels LFM is just a mess. Nobody knows how to drive... or cares enough to drive well. Dave Cam had a video where he was griping about the exact same thing as you, and he got dropped back into rookies because of other people hitting him! Honestly, I got my LFM license and have yet to do a single LFM race! I'm just too afraid of all the poor racecraft on display on your channel and others. One night a week, my league opens up our practice server to the public so we have some cars to practice against, and those 20 minute races are always a nightmare. I usually throw my hands in the air in frustration and log off! However, our league races are a night and day difference. Yes, incidents still happen. But not anywhere near what you've shows in your latest videos. There is accountability and everyone drives with care. Incidents can be reported to the stewards for review, and there are penalties for being at-fault. No... it's not a police state. Minor incidents are usually just the two drivers involved saying sorry/no worries and forgetting about it. There are leagues out there where you can be a casual driver. You don't need to race every race. Really, the only reason to race every race is if you are shooting for the championship. I just drive because I enjoy it and want good, clean racing. My last league points race was amazing. A 40 minute race with a single mandatory pitstop at Kyalami, and not only did I place well for my skill-level, I never touched another car in the entire race! You have a lot of supportive followers, so I don't know if you recall my other messages. But at the risk of sounding like a broken record, find yourself a good league to join. I truly think you can find enjoyment in the hobby again if you're not at the mercy and whims of careless hacks with no courtesy! I would LOVE for you to join my league on Champion Motorsports, but I don't think you're over 50 years old (I'm in the 50+ "old farts" league!) But there are other leagues in CMS, and plenty of others too! We all love your videos... you're one of the best commentators out there! We'd hate to see you give up the hobby.

[@yugimotobutjacked3231]

Keep making videos of this style no matter what racing game it is haha, great watch

[@waynenicol2036]

You just can't take a trick lately can you mate. Don't give up though, surely it can only get better. Only thing I can suggest is make use of the report feature with LFM. They have probably got the best reporting system around and it's the only way we're going to weed these idiots out. if they have too many reports in a short time they get banned and they have to go back to playing Forza or GT7. Anyway as I said don't give up.

[@chrisrogerssimracing]

Haha nope, I think I could load up a private practice session and still get punted out at the moment 🤣 yeah I have started to use the LFM protest system since that last video, and have to agree that it’s excellent… fair play to them for the amount of effort that must go into managing it.

[@leferryhuncho7586]

it's the same on assetto corsa to. maybe it's a public lobby thing.

[@chrisrogerssimracing]

Yeah, I’ve hopped around all the various sims in the past month or so, and haven’t had much luck anywhere.

[@christiangrotte]

You gotta fix your braking, Chris. In this video, there is not one single corner where you apply 100% brake input. No wonder people get surprised by you braking early. Either your pedal is broken, or you have played too much Iracing 😅

[@chrisrogerssimracing]

You’re absolutely right. During my time off, I wiped my PC and reinstalled everything. Which meant I’ve had to redo my inputs and wheel/pedal settings. They do feel a little different to before. But I notice I did manage to hit 100% braking once… when I feared I was going to run into the back of the guy at the final chicane. So I suspect the main reason is because I’ve most recently spent more time racing BTCC in rF2, and got out of the habit of stamping the pedal down as hard as I can. Thanks for flagging… I’ll toughen up my foot for next time.

[@ez2jr]

it's really frustrating when u try avoid the mass crash ahead and someone give you a push...

[@ruphusmathibe6180]

I love the commentary 😂

[@chrisrogerssimracing]

Thank you mate. Normally I’m more positive than I was in this video!

[@loswashos4667]

Me being someone admiring your content it is hard to see you struggle this much. NBR is really not the track to gain confidence and trust into the abilities of the community. Overall let me add my two cents. As LFM has become THE place for racing in ACC, the overall competition has tightened very much which means mistakes are only more severe then otherwise. Me being a Split1-Top15 driver I only every participate in a race when I am sure I am no obstacle to those around... so mostly earliest on wendesday or even after - after extensive practice. Also I watch streamed races to see what to look out for. That helps a lot with being familiar with the dangers. Also, as the competition is as tight as it is, being the cautious one is not always considered by the other ones. I found it is best to give it full beans when all the others do as well to not get punted - normally being the cautious type too. I'd like to leave space to the car in front of me to learn where they brake but when this puts me at risk, I tend to waive on this convinience... this of course needs selfconfidence. All of that tbh would not have helped you with most of the incidents... this is just mistakes from others. So overall I might come to the conclusion - LFM Sprint is not the right place anymore for the casual driving :( What I'd like to recommend to you is trying GT4, M2 or even the 45min races as those tend to be cleaner and the pit stop for the 45s gives you the ability to iron out being punted off lap1 sometimes. Wish you best of luck for the next races.

[@debozebever]

That is why you should always qualify. Don't get near those who can't race!

[@tintedstud]

yup been through this kinda shit way to often... just came from a 11 race straight of getting knocked out by idiots first corner. totally rubbish!!!

[@chrisrogerssimracing]

Ouch, an 11-race streak is painful. Even my run hasn’t been quite that bad! But it really does leave you feeling so frustrated, doesn’t it. Hope you get a better run of luck soon 🤞

[@tintedstud]

@@chrisrogerssimracing ya bud.. Made up for it with a V at Bathurst. And a P6 from a P27 start at Spa in a 30minute race..

[@trevorwaite6848]

Thankfully there's plenty of good clubs/leagues to join.

[@HollisonHusky]

Recently started sim racing and have been looking around for a decent club/community to join and when you see people like Jardier and other well know YT'ers suggesting LFM as a good community to join, it's a bit of a downer when you search LFM here on KZbin and see nothing but negativity surrounding it. Just doing online pub lobbies is destroying my ratings, and racing against AI all the time gets very lonely and quite boring and is slowly killing my enthusiasm for the hobby to be fair as being a loner seems to be the only way to get a good race at the amateur level.

[@chrisrogerssimracing]

Don’t let this video put you off LFM. It’s a great platform. Of course, you’ll get bad races, like anywhere - this was a particularly bad week for me, and came after a terrible run of luck across all sims. But there is great racing to be found in LFM - and they do have a very good report/protest system to penalise bad driving. Good luck with your racing 👍

[@otomate6446]

Even the rookie series can be less problematic, but its not all sunshine, but not as much

[@MrPichichi78]

It’s a complete shambles trying to race clean on acc. Unless you are elite level you have to mix it with drivers who are either inexperienced or are quick but have no race craft and are overly aggressive. It’s very demoralising and I don’t know what the answer is. The safety rating in Lfm works to a point but it’s still very hard to avoid the rammers.

[@firstjayjay]

👍😋💯😎😊❤️ Loooooooooong time no see... 🤗

[@JDFdoggo]

Shocking rececraft by some of the other contestants, looks more like an open lobby rookie series. Chin up buddy ;o) - Raceroom on the Raido servers has cleaned up enormously with bad drivers getting banned on a daily basis from days at a time to permanent.

[@douglascarlyle1]

LFM would have lot less caos if it was a paid subscription, like iRacing. People tend to be more civilized when there's a cost to pay

[@MrTroya19840]

It's the harsh reality I go to two reports per race and it's tiring but the one who drops the score is me in addition to wasting my time and I have tagged LFM to increase the penalties

[@edwardbuchanan871]

Been there, getting smashed by people who would never make the corner. I worked on my qualy times and now usually starting in the top 5 I miss most of that nonsense

[@lowfastracing]

In the first race your braking was perfect, that was absolutely his fault. The person behind you made the mistake in the second race's second situation as well, but I'll give you an advice for that situation, which is very effective in this particular corner: if someone comes within 0.3-0.4 seconds behind you, always go to the inside line! Of course, this is not how it should work, but this is ACC... I have been crashed in similar situations a million times in this corner (even by aliens), but since I got used to this method, almost never. You'll lose 1-2 tenths with it, but you have a much-much higher chance to avoid these kind of stupid collisions.

[@Manu68-Simracing]

Let's be serious . You are not in fault. The guy behind is just a ass..... There is nothing more to discuss. He has been involved in a car crash, and he decided to put some cars out to regain his place immediately . I can not describe how much I hate all of this.

[@chanonmotheral8031]

I think you need to spend more time on iracing. If you can get to 2.5 to 3 k the racing is pretty solid. Hope to see you on track. I only race on iracing and only the Porsche Cup car. Come join in.