Acceleration Battle | E46 | BMW 330i vs 330d | 170 vs 150 kW | Power vs Torque

Honestly, 150 kW 3.0d engine is on of the best diesel engines in BMW history. Reliable, efficient, powerful and very nice to drive because of it's agility. But compared to the mighty 3.0i 170 kW, it's just not enough :-)

[@snazy7777]

Proud owner of both these engines!! Couldn't pick between them so i drive them both from time to time. I drive the petrol more than the diesel tho. The exhaust note and the throttle response wins me over.

[@muldix]

Congrats so much! Don't sell your beauties. Best cars

[@todorbodurov6793]

Just remap the diesel and you will see which response will wins you :)

[@FStan-co8vv]

@@todorbodurov6793 it still doesn't have throttle response and feeling like a high revving naturally aspirated engine. Power isn't the point here, even though I like 3.0d a lot

[@ESKATEUK]

The gear changing in that 330i couldn’t be any slower

[@muldix]

Thank You

[@dyzzlog3499]

Maybe he dont want to destroy it

[@ESKATEUK]

@@dyzzlog3499 I drove my 330ci hard for years, the gearbox and clutch were fine. If you’re gonna do a video showing the speed of a car, then you go for it, not half arse it.

[@guntars5281]

the true moral of this battle is-BMW won:D

[@MB-kd7ii]

The feeling in de diesel is more powerful, had both and have to say the torqe of the Diesel makea so much fun Sorr for my english😅

[@ThePeetrd]

Yes !

[@daffiecars]

How do you guys get all these cars for the videos, it's great content

[@bhyeera]

I wanna know too, asking for a friend 🤔

[@julijanjusic]

Stolen

[@hellohigh9826]

We dont buy opel corsa year 2014 with 80 000 kilometers for 4500e, we buy bmw 330 from 2002 with 350 000 kilometers for 4500e.

[@absitinvidia3948]

@@hellohigh9826 istina

[@rasmuslull4766]

E46 330xd pre fl and 460k km ... Engine great turbo stock and mint

[@FjordTrotter]

diesels are severely restricted due to emissions. I have a modded E90 335D, with DPF/SCR removed, EGR delete, ECU remap. Over 650 ft-lbs of torque (880 nm) means I can pull past 500 hp gasser (petrol) cars with ease. If you remove emissions and remap the ECU, diesels pull quicker than gasoline equivalent.

[@muldix]

Hehe great! We have 335d e91! As a daily :)

[@gw7624]

"Over 650 ft-lbs of torque (880 nm) means I can pull past 500 hp gasser (petrol) cars with ease. " No it doesn't. "If you remove emissions and remap the ECU, diesels pull quicker than gasoline equivalent." Not with less power.

[@banny123456]

yes, and grass behind you will turn black every time you push acc pedal down. That black cloud is too funny for me, so lame omg :D

[@absitinvidia3948]

No disel always lose, if you have turbo disel vs turbo petrol gues what. All disels have to have turbo to be compareble to atmosferic petrol engines. 3 liter turbo petrol can easily 500+ hp car and pass emisions, and 3 liter disel can be at max 380 and not pasing emisions or anything. And if you go wild with maping and parts as you went for getting 380-400 hp from disel with petrol engine you are looking at 800-1000 hp

[@woolbus4319]

@@banny123456 black smoke only happens with bad tuners

[@nikoweindel1198]

First of all, the diesel clearly is a sedan or estate, while the petrol car is a coupé or cabriolet. That should be disclosed, as the curb weights can differ quite a bit. Also, in my experience as a 150 kW 330d owner, it is quicker to shift into second a bit early, so that the engine has time to really build boost in second gear. Also, the gear will go in a bit easier. Very interesting nonetheless!

[@mehmetss7327]

I want watch E 36 320 i vs e46 320 i E 46 330 i vs stock ep3 typ r

[@skrzatRG]

ep3 is faster till 160kmh

[@Ludovik410]

This is a very good car. And the four wheel drive is excellent (it is not like the current xdrive that will break soon and will cost several thousands of euros). Im selling one of this e46 330xd reprogrammed to around 260cv full equiped. A real beast.

[@muldix]

Has to be quick!!!

[@sharkmusic9636]

Are you still selling the car?

[@travian841]

Do Alfa Giulietta 1.4 170cv vs 1.6 Jtdm 170cv 😊

[@vecaa88]

Nice video, would love to see this same diesel with a chip, compare to petrol. Becouse they would have about the same hp than.

[@quintessence1343]

330i would still win, it's lighter and longer gears, u need at least stage 2 to win 330i

[@kp_czt9859]

@@quintessence1343 330d 204hp with remap will destroy 330i

[@vecaa88]

Yes it is lighter with longer gears, but diesel would have much more torque, and equal hp...would be fun to watch 😀

[@EliteRazzarar]

Its still turbo vs na..turbocharge the 330i and then we will see..

[@R4PT0RI4L]

Robert Ecker Charging the 30i?? Why not buy an M3 then? Cheeper, than a proper turbocharcing process, trust me. 30d with a simple optimising runs faster, and lasts longer.

[@clausfkvist]

Think my 330d e46 touring is remaped 200 and on no problem

[@muldix]

Possible :-))

[@dobbythefreeelf9638]

Did fuel consumption guage read 20L / 100 km. Bro wtf I ain't got money like that

[@mitjkp5261]

It's current, not average. Mine shows 25L/100km when accelerating fast xD. Otherwise, I get around 6L/100km driving normally

[@GalantPeer81]

the 330d has the low range torque advantage, and the 330i is pulling away above 100km/h, more high range power. Also 20kW power difference, and not to mention the weight difference, assuming the diesel is a bit heavier. I know with the E90 3 Series, the 320d is actually quicker on the 0 to 60 compared to the 320i, same amount of power, but the diesel with lots more torque.

[@gw7624]

Torque is meaningless when both cars are kept in their power bands. The most powerful car won, as expected.

[@StrahinjaRadinovic]

Dude,320d is 163hp and 320i is 150hp,and 320i can keep up to 0-60,difference is like 0.1-0.2,that is a very good,and its true diesels can keep up up to 120kmh,i mean 330i is here faster even to 0-60,after that,good bye...

[@vitalybrateev5548]

@@StrahinjaRadinovic 320i also got a 170hp

[@lowbudgetracer97]

Please do a Comparison between e46 320ci 2.2 and e46 325i

[@SAlaaitie]

Awesome vid

[@vladimir5935]

I have to choose between the two. I think I'll get both at one point but the diesel will be first

[@user-sd3ry6sd2t]

Why changing gear early on the 330d

[@blabarracing7334]

No top end power

[@BLOGLukas]

Remap the diesel, goodbye petrol.

[@daynwalker6667]

It already beat it

[@ESKATEUK]

Dayn Walker don’t know what video you were watching fella 😂😂

[@auzracing3089]

Remap the petrol Bye bye diesel shit

[@auzracing3089]

Aka turbo it

[@makantahi3731]

ad super/turbo charger on petrol, goodbye diesel

[@IncOcngnito]

Diesel has 204 horses and weighs 200 kg more than gasoline, while gasoline has 231 horses and is lighter

[@toddiek579]

Acceleration Battle | E46 | BMW 330i vs 330d | 100 Liter Petrol vs 1 Liter Diesel | So don't save vs save like this! 😅🤣🤣

[@Terradyn86]

well, buy a bicycle if you cant afford buying fuel... who wants to own a monkey, should have money on the bananas as well ;)

[@toddiek579]

​@@Terradyn86 You're stupid! I'm sorry. You don't understand why I wrote it! Just because you have a lot of money doesn’t mean you have to quickly throw a lot of money out the window! "" "Consider several years!""" I don't want to hurt you just understand what I wanted to write! Torque is good everywhere and more affordable with Diesel the more Liters you refuel! Vehicles used at work 90% minimum diesel. WHY? TORQUE! SAVE MONEY!

[@radovangaco9621]

@@toddiek579 So why all best super cars on the world run on petrol, why not diesel ? :D

[@toddiek579]

@@radovangaco9621 You really don't understand what I wrote I see. :D

[@toddiek579]

@@radovangaco9621 Do you know that the equipment for gasoline cars is shipped with diesel cars? 😅😅😅

[@kubilayakgol6180]

thanks

[@legioner9]

I wanted the 330d to win. A race with rolling start from 50 km/h would be interesting.

[@jamppa4693]

The diesel wins the 0-80kmh after that the 330i will run away.

[@legioner9]

@@jamppa4693 What about rolling start from 50 km/h?

[@jamppa4693]

@@legioner9 it would be pretty even till about 100kmh after that the 330i will take over because off the hp difference. Diesel cars have way more torque than petrol, thats why they are faster at the start. But at higher speeds petrol will accelerate faster

[@legioner9]

@@jamppa4693 Thanks for the answer.

[@BrunoMezenga2408]

@@jamppa4693 what a misleading reply

[@pachokardana6192]

we should compare turbo petrol vs turbo diesel , and we know the answer. Turbocharge m54b30 and it's game over for diesel . I like m57 one of the greatest diesels ever but it will need a lot of other stuff to beat turbo m54. The point is bmw already has a 1.5l 1500hp petrol engine used in F1 turbo era and there is nothing like it in a diesel world from any brad ever. Diesel is for relaxed and economy drive petrol is for hp per liter.

[@th3phacee]

would a rolling race be different ?

[@muldix]

Yes

[@th3phacee]

@@muldix so i would say the 330d would win then?

[@muldix]

@@th3phacee in the first couple of meters definitely. If the driver was prepared and had right gear in 330i, then 330i would win.

[@kelvynmoore4882]

This is only half the story. Yes the 330i is quicker 0-60. Few will argue against that. But test the real world performance and see what you get. 30-50, 50-70, 70-100 mph. I remember my 330d would pull like few others could above 100 ;) Only problem was the engine note. It never sounded bad, but compared to a petrol 330i it was rubbish. The 335d is properly quick though. I'd have that any day over a 330i.

[@muldix]

Well, you have the right point of view

[@SeanSmith88]

Its because 330d have turbos. They have boost on lower ref and na petrol does not. Thats why it does better in the 30-50 etc. I know it from experience. Still na is awesome at higher ref

[@ecuperformance959]

torque is the power need...

[@mamushmamushi8701]

It was a great comparison , but the launch on the bmw 330d was not the best . I have seen faster acceleration from these type of cars on stock!

[@headlesshorseman2165]

Mamush Mamushi was going to say! My 330d is not stock has egr delete. Stage 1 remap and delete Pre cat and mine would obviously piss over both but stock I have had her at 6.8 seconds to 60 but timing has to be perfect as diesels mehhh 🤔 but I love mine because she’s all tuned now! But that take off was shocking!

[@mamushmamushi8701]

Jacob Williams i love this type of bmw !

[@alexandrupavel5397]

you diesel guys always try to convince yourself that diesel is as good as petrol on sportscars 😂😂😂😂

[@amodinho32]

@@alexandrupavel5397 Hi. On street cars there's no way. But in supersports racing cars, there were some years ago (I don't know if they are still running ) the seat leon sports diesel. And they won the championship some years.

[@airwolfie100]

Alexandru Pavel and you petrolheads don’t like getting beat by a diesel!

[@ayylmayo968]

changing gears in the 330d earlier than the 330i just to make it look worse. nice

[@AkzayBillscanhitBills]

its diesel?

[@ayylmayo968]

i know it is. he changes gear on 3000rpm while he can torture it up to 4000+.

[@user-sd3ry6sd2t]

Yeah changing gear way too soon on diesel

[@AkzayBillscanhitBills]

most likely short shifting to stay on peak torque, revving all the way in a diesel comes off of the power band eventually as it is not a linear power delivery like petrol

[@BrunoMezenga2408]

@@ayylmayo968 there is absolutely no usable power after 3000-3500rpm with 330d....

[@raphibraz7823]

Avec des caisses qui cumulent 300000kms c'est nul votre truc ! J'ai possédé une 330d E46 204cv de 2007 à 2012 achetée à 40000kms revendue à 150000kms, je peux vous dire que ça accéléré plus que ça!

[@charlyvss5440]

t'étais à quoi en conso ?

[@raphibraz7823]

@@charlyvss5440 Salut, c'était mon ex femme qui la conduisait tous les jours, environ 6,5l au 100 que des petits trajets pour aller au boulot et elle avait le pied lourd... Exemple : J'avais fais Royan/Biarritz à 4,4l au 100, Royan/Paris à 4,9l au 100 etc... aux limites de vitesse bien sûr, régulateur, limiteur à 132 bref sacrée bonne bagnole... En tirant dedans comme un ours elle n'a jamais dépassé 9l au 100, si mes souvenirs sont bons on avait fait 1040 ou 1070kms avec le plein... elle montait à 235kmh et le son du 6el ligne c'était un régal...adio

[@charlyvss5440]

@@raphibraz7823 merci beaucoup !!

[@lachankla3124]

N'importe quoi... Le m57 de la 330d ne perd pas de chevaux, t'avancait pareil sauf qu'avec le couple on a toujours l'impression que ça marche mieux.

[@ddamianRC]

Nice compare but you should compare 3.0i petrol after 03/2003 ( with 6 speed gearbox and red lin under 6500) . Diesel is in nice condition

[@user-li7ls3dv4c]

Дизель лайк

[@rotorblade9508]

Although the 330d is 132hp/t and 330i is 157hp/t the 330d seems to produce the same effective power as the 330i although its top power is lower so I think only the weight makes the difference. Basically from 0-180 they produce the same amout of energy (energy is power x time where you divide time into small bits and chose average power on the interval then add all the bits 😝 ) that’s probably because of the turbocharger that gives more lower rpm torque Power depends on torque amd rpm (analogous to force and speed) so let’s see an example the diesel has 3000-4800rpm 410Nm- 296Nm which means 172Hp to 200Hp (1800rpm band) Gasoline 4500-6500 rpm 285Nm to 250Nm that gives 170 to 230Hp on a 2000rpm band well... hmm the gasoline makes more power acording to this so maybe it’s not actually doing that 230hp 3000rpm 410Nm is equivalent to 4500rpm 285Nm

[@zanmk69]

I think that it is not even fair to compare these engines since they are not both naturally aspirated nor both turbocharged engines, its basically apples to oranges comparison. The fact that petrol engine outpreforms TURBO (fact that many peasants forget) diesel makes it superior. Just imagine the power of the petrol one if it was turbocharged or the absurdity of the naturally aspirated diesel engine in the BMW.

[@miguelmarcos1971]

That m57 has a fucking boost leak for sure. That turbo kicks in rather rowdy (own one) whereas this one fucking feels like a lame ass NA diesel. And the shifts are shit.

[@rafalski119]

But if you only chip 330d..😈 and if you change IC, exhaust..

[@uport2]

it would still sound like shit compared to the 330i

[@monsterrapid]

uport2 not as good sounding but faster

[@kanehebi3992]

going by your logic what would happen if you turbo the 330i lmao

[@ionv7885]

@@kanehebi3992 500 hp 😂

[@rihs335]

@@uport2 for me 330d saund beter

[@saschadittrich438]

Patrol Power 😀

[@muldix]

:-D

[@MakeSh00t]

30i is better to have while diesel only breaks.

[@Emanuel-zr7du]

No Diesels Last way way longer than Perron engine the one of May Fahrer die 600k ease

[@mikopoubil6045]

Sa marche pareil

[@user-sj4tj9ge1f]

330i купе

[@0595michal]

Great but after 300kkm, the diesel will still drive great and keep the factory power, and the gasoline will require expensive renovation M57 is an indestructible piece of iron

[@muldix]

agreeeee!

[@banaanipuukko]

m54 goes pretty easily 350-400kkms if you just take care of it and let it warmup

[@bence.gabor.slezak]

you mean the diesel will drive great after a new turbo, maybe a fuel pump too and the petrol will probably need a vanos rebuild

[@0595michal]

@@bence.gabor.slezak I have a 330d with 350kkm and all I had to replace was the injector on 6th cylinder Turbo, as in any engine, will last a long time, provided that it has regular oil changes, i.e. every 10-15kkm Record holder that I have personally seen (although in a different brand car), the original turbo had 524kkm before it needed repair That's right, the fuel pump for the 3.0d is a bit expensive, but you can replace it yourself with one wrench and a screwdriver, unlike vanos repair which is not that simple M54 yes, repair vanos, replace ignition coils, disa valve, many other sensors that are NOT CHEAP The M54 sounds nice and runs smooth, but personally I wouldn't buy it

[@e46.r]

@@0595michal You most probably (like 99%) need to replace turbo, heat relay, chain (if you like to smash throttle) and list goes on and on. Petrol M54 is more durable than diesel engine in every way.

[@ApocGuy]

diesel engine was made for heavy duty work, not top speed racing. try N/A 16D vs 1.6i petrol and let them run under the load until one engine fails. its just pointless to compare two so different engines. and if you want rematch: put 500bhp electric v 500bhp petrol :P

[@gw7624]

What are you talking about? A 330d is not made for 'heavy duty work'.

[@bivalveeternity4227]

of course diesel only

[@onegmsgmailcom]

I dunno whats wrong with your diesel but mines 136kW 2001 e46 diesel will kill petrol easy in this video, seems your EGR or something like that in this video is fucked :)

[@BrunoMezenga2408]

What? 🤣

[@Didi-yg9rd]

Put some fuel in the tank you

[@kat0197]

you dont know how to change gears properly

[@muldix]

Hhhhhh 😂 do you think so? m.kzbin.info/www/bejne/lXrVpq2oeKafbbs

[@strryle125]

Put a software on it and it will smash the petrol engine. Also the petrol burns more oil in a 100 km than the diesel fuel.

[@SeanSmith88]

remove the turbo from the diesel and petrol will smash the diesel engine. a fair comparison is stock vs stock. no cheating. the petrol wins

[@agdwhite5421]

Put a turbo on the petrol like the diesel does and smash the diesel no matter what mods the diesel have 😂

[@mildot5482]

Both vehicles the tanks are empties ..lol

[@Mr_Glenn]

And that is a problem why exactly?

[@mildot5482]

@@Mr_Glenn notat all .. juste i noticed it

[@TheElvis94]

Kto diesel-a dusi na takich obrotach, masakra

[@denizuysal9188]

Diesel is the best i love diesel

[@itsmedane8487]

You love tractors? :)

[@denizuysal9188]

@@itsmedane8487 diesel sounds like a song for me (without exceptions)

[@rihs335]

agree

[@itsmedane8487]

@@denizuysal9188 start it on -20 then it have best sound 😂😂

[@serifiariolserifi5909]

from 100 to 200 i think the diesel ist faster

[@gabicmf2358]

Love petrol,diesel suck🖕diesel is made for trucks😂