Accurascale Thwarts Bachmann With Superior Class 37 | Unboxing & Review

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@schuylerschultz804
@schuylerschultz804 Жыл бұрын
Accurascale kinda came out of nowhere and took the model railroad world by storm. Quality products at quality prices! Good on them!
@BrecklandSpotting
@BrecklandSpotting Жыл бұрын
Railway
@schuylerschultz804
@schuylerschultz804 Жыл бұрын
railroad, railway, some people say one, some people say the other. Here in the states some were called railroads, others railways. Guess it just depends^^@@BrecklandSpotting
@TheGameCamer360
@TheGameCamer360 Жыл бұрын
@@schuylerschultz804ignore him old people from England think nothing exists outside the uk
@pemboart
@pemboart Жыл бұрын
A feature I was blown away by on the sound version was the Flange Squeal that only activates when it hits a corner! Amazing attention to detail!
@doctorgiovanni853
@doctorgiovanni853 Жыл бұрын
Mister Sam, I have been watching your channel for over 6 years (circa 2017), and I am just now leaving my comment. Your videos are bloody brilliant; [they are] thorough, entertaining, humourous (when needed), witty, insightful, informative and instructive. It is always a joy whenever I see a new video of yours show up in my feed. You are a delightful chap. I enjoy your out-and-about mini-vlogs with Chloe, too. Lovely stuff, mate. Further, this old doctor has learned so much about locos, as well as this extraordinarily (expensive) hobby we in this esoteric community love so much. Thank you for sharing your thoughts with us, Grazie! Arrivederci, Giovanni Marino, M.D.🇬🇧
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for your kind words Doctor, that's very much appreciated! :D Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@billmmckelvie5188
@billmmckelvie5188 Жыл бұрын
Oh-ho, here comes Accurascale beating the competition. In the first place I don't know why Bachmann brought out the downgraded new one, the first one was good! Accurascale are to be applauded for bring out Loch Lomond as sadly in real life this loco has been scrapped! This will bring happy memories for those who trundled behind the 37s weaving through the picturesque panorama of the actual Loch and Argyle Forest on the West Highland line to Fort William!
@modelrailfan37
@modelrailfan37 Жыл бұрын
I think Bachmann probably re-tooled theirs before Accurascale announced theirs. It doesn’t really seem like Bachmann to copy another manufacturer, and to be fair Bachmann have been upgrading a lot of their diesels lately (ie: the new Class 20, 24, 25 and 47). Bachmann’s new 37 isn’t bad ether, but I do think that the Accurascale one is slightly better.
@tripwire3992
@tripwire3992 Жыл бұрын
So called "serious railway modellers" love to slag sam off on facebook groups but i dont see why, sam makes quality videos and fantastic insightful reviews
@mattsolomon2909
@mattsolomon2909 Жыл бұрын
I have no doubt after your review that this is a fab loco. You showed off the beauty in the detail. And it is, for the price brilliant. However, I feel a sense of bias. You mentioned you found no negatives yet, the detail of the chain, the base keeper plate, the sand pipe, inability to service they’re all negatives, especially the poor quality mechanism of the bogey and the bar that touches. I wouldn’t say “no negatives”. So that was contradictory. Preached as a great. But I can’t help wonder how this would’ve been talked about if it had the hornby or Bachman logo with the “negatives” you did find above.
@womble1981
@womble1981 Жыл бұрын
I’m puzzled that Sam wasn’t bothered about a sanding pipe falling off! Bits falling off sounds like a deal breaker.
@jamesthatcher4190
@jamesthatcher4190 Жыл бұрын
The sand pipes are made to scale and having asked accurascale they are designed to be trimmed if you have right radius on your layout.
@TheRip72
@TheRip72 Жыл бұрын
But it is an extra/improved detail over those already available. It is like comparing a loco with a buffer falling off against an older one which incorrectly never had them at all.
@TheGameCamer360
@TheGameCamer360 Жыл бұрын
If that had happened on a Hornby loco we wouldn’t hear the end of it.
@mccarronfamily
@mccarronfamily Жыл бұрын
Hornby don't add them to their models at all :) @@TheGameCamer360
@TheGameCamer360
@TheGameCamer360 Жыл бұрын
@@mccarronfamily missed the point completely
@FerroequinologistofColorado
@FerroequinologistofColorado Жыл бұрын
While it’s not known wha the rest of 2023 will bring. I have a feeling this class 37 will be pretty high in the ranks during the “best trains of 2023” video.
@guyclark2975
@guyclark2975 Жыл бұрын
How about longevity. I would like to bet the Bachmann 37 will keep running long after the Accurascale. The Accurascale Deltic was outstanding but not without it's problems. Bachmann are king when it comes to Diesels. In a word 'You get what You Pay For'. Even at the beginning of the review you had practically written off the Bachmann 37.
@ScaniaVabis580
@ScaniaVabis580 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely, i completely agree... I get vitrains vibes from the accurascale models in terms of build quality.
@lindaoffenbach
@lindaoffenbach Жыл бұрын
Exactly this !
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains Жыл бұрын
This is a pain to service, that's for sure - but I see no reason why it wouldn't last as long as Bachmann's - they're fundamentally the same in terms of build, both have bearings etc. Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@tonyrobinson362
@tonyrobinson362 4 ай бұрын
The sound fitted Bachmann 47s are absolutely fabulous.
@EsotericArctos
@EsotericArctos Жыл бұрын
This class 37 is one of the best I have seen for a long time. That detail is amazing, the lighting looks impressive. The ease of fitting the DCC Decoder is just the icing on the cake for this one. This is a really fantastic diesel loco for the price.
@nigelericogden3200
@nigelericogden3200 Жыл бұрын
I bought one Sam, in the same livery that you chose. It’s so perfect I’m scared to get it out of the box !!! Accurascale smash it out of the park once again !!
@bryantan863
@bryantan863 Жыл бұрын
Accurascale has done it again Sam. Their new Class 37 diesel locomotive model looks far more superior than Bachmann's version. It is totally worth 170 Pounds to buy this model from Accurascale but I do agree about the form over function problem on Accurascale's model. Overall, it is still a very nice looking model.
@roberthill6216
@roberthill6216 Жыл бұрын
I'm looking forward to the class 31. I have 5 on order.
@bryantan863
@bryantan863 Жыл бұрын
@@roberthill6216 seriously, there is another diesel locomotive from Accurascale coming out soon.
@astonishinglyaveragemodeller
@astonishinglyaveragemodeller Жыл бұрын
No idea why Accurascale lie and say their locos have metal gears in the bogie when they're clearly plastic!
@jakeford12
@jakeford12 8 ай бұрын
Probably because MaRkEtInG.
@Gatherleymodeller.
@Gatherleymodeller. 4 ай бұрын
Some have metal like mine!
@IronHorseRailways
@IronHorseRailways Жыл бұрын
22:49 22:48 - bewildered by how you struggled so much with the keeper plate removal. I've recently had to do this, simply unfasten the 4 side clips with a thin jewelers screw driver, then press inward and lift upward the clip on the end towards the fuel tank side... Keeper plate pops free, no damaged keeper plate, no Damaged bogie frames etc.. The chains never even came into it! Yes, I'd say you diddled that up well and truly!
@iskra1234
@iskra1234 Жыл бұрын
Agree that Bachmann doing a 37 was a waste of resources, when something new could be produced instead and the ‘old’ Bachmann 37 is still a fine model. Where the new Accurascale 37 really smashes the Bachmann one is in the sound department. The A/S one sounds like having a real 37 in the room :D
@David_Mattox
@David_Mattox Жыл бұрын
Another banger from Accurascale! Looking forward to their Buckjumpers coming out next year! Also, I smell another comparison video coming on. Who will win?!
@PeterSchmieder
@PeterSchmieder Жыл бұрын
I must say as good as this sounds the terrible accessibility would be a dealbreaker for me. What's the use of all the great things about this model if you can't do maintenance that will be necessary sooner or later without removing some of the detailing permanently?
@sapphirejunction8993
@sapphirejunction8993 Жыл бұрын
Bachmann Class 37's after 6 months released are heavily reduced at the retailers because they are simply not shifting at those ludicrous prices, which just proves they are fleecing customers right from the beginning...if you really want a Bachmann for whatever reason then wait 6 months post release.
@Valleys56xx
@Valleys56xx Жыл бұрын
I’m actually quite pleased that Bachmann has produced a 37 in direct competition with Accurascale. It allows the 37 to be used as an accurate touchstone between current manufacturers as well as to chart the history of loco production using the previous models produced by manufacturers going all the way back through the older Bachmann models, Hornby’s offerings, the Lima effort and finally to the Tri-ang 1965 model. This will be the second model I will buy after seeing your review after the Rapido 16xx. Love the reviews :)
@alasdaircook5673
@alasdaircook5673 Жыл бұрын
Well done Accurascale. Waiting for my original 37s in green and Blue to arrive. Now we want the bigger brother the Class 40. There is something just not right with Bachmann's class 40.The windscreens for a start.
@Decrepit_biker
@Decrepit_biker Жыл бұрын
I can't see why you would need to remove the chains to remove the base keeper plate? That comes off without the chains coming off.
@mccarronfamily
@mccarronfamily Жыл бұрын
It does.
@railfanjackson4531
@railfanjackson4531 Жыл бұрын
What a magnificent locomotive. AccuraScale truly is changing the game when it comes to the value for money department. Now they just need to start making steam locomotives. Great video Sam
@sapphirejunction8993
@sapphirejunction8993 Жыл бұрын
They do, the GWR 7800 Manor has just been released to customers and they have the J67, J68 and J69's coming later.
@railfanjackson4531
@railfanjackson4531 Жыл бұрын
@@sapphirejunction8993 Oh you’re right. Just looked them up. Still I do hope to see them do some larger steam locomotives (such as a 9F) in the future
@nigelericogden3200
@nigelericogden3200 Жыл бұрын
@@railfanjackson4531 A 9F is also top of my list for Accurascale, closely followed by a Large Prairie.
@modelrailfan37
@modelrailfan37 Жыл бұрын
@@nigelericogden3200 their are already two 9F’s and two large prairies on the market, I don’t really see why we need a third (although the Bachmann 9F and Hornby Large Prairie are not great.). Also, I want to see a review of the Manor first, as apparently it is going to have a 3-pole motor…
@paulaynsley1382
@paulaynsley1382 Жыл бұрын
I have exactly the same model DCC ready- it’s fabulous- also has stay alive so that the lights etc stay on for a few seconds after you switch off the power.
@WCMLtrainspotter
@WCMLtrainspotter Жыл бұрын
You and Geoff Marshall just uploaded at the same time!
@cristitanase6130
@cristitanase6130 11 ай бұрын
Real trains slow down at corners, and when climbing, having a constant speed is unrealistic.
@ted5hhh1241
@ted5hhh1241 8 ай бұрын
Perhaps you need to re make this video now after the accurascake 37 big issues .
@mikeking2539
@mikeking2539 Жыл бұрын
Neither accurascale nor Hatton have any 37 in stock. So the affiliate links are pointless 😢
@DC4260Productions
@DC4260Productions Жыл бұрын
I've got one of these too, and I'm very happy with mine. I wanted a 37 for years, but for whatever reason, I never bothered with the existing Bachmann models. For reference, my model is 37027 'Loch Eil' in BR blue with the additional white stripe.
@colwichjunction3366
@colwichjunction3366 Жыл бұрын
Great review Sam. The 37 is stunning, undoubtedly my favourite model ever! I’m lucky enough to have a sound fitted version & it’s truly amazing. The so called “big manufacturers” must be quaking in their boots Accurascale are blowing them away with all of these new releases. Cheers John b😎
@the_failed_states
@the_failed_states Жыл бұрын
The concept of the disruptor in business, That's Acurascale, Rapido and also Dapol (I love Dapol, always have since the Dr Who days and plastic bag kits). Hornby and Bachmann have had a profitable little duopoly going one for quite some time in a rich market. They hardly ever stepped on each other's toes. For example, we don't see a Bachmann Flying Scotsman, and we won't see a new tool Hornby Pannier or Jinty. Why bother? The other has it covered. One reason why Hornby has bet the farm on TT, there isn't any competition (tooling and ecosystem costs a fortune) - also, I don't get TT, there's N which is getting better and betterer. Neither will go to O because, well Dapol is there, and it's super niche and end-to end layouts are enthusiast territory. Bachmann is maybe doing OK in 009? there stuff is super nice, but super expensive - $400 AUD for a 009 040? No chance. I can almost buy an anycubic resin printer for that and a Thomas N gauge mech on ebay for next to nothing. And again 009 is enthusiast territory. The price and quality is similar between the two, there is no point in releasing a model when competition exists. Not any more. LIDAR, CAD, cheap high quality manufacturing, and the growth in high quality DIY 3D printing means that the old players are hitting really steep competition for the first time. It's awesome. That's the reason why Bachmann and Honby rush expensive models out knowing that the competition is releasing the same. It's their profitability window, and it's closes fast -they only have a limited time. Hornby cashed in on Lion (such a stunning lack of imagination. Hello! Locomotion? Planet? Invicta? Stromboli? You have Rocket - add to the collection you twits), and stacked the offering into a pack to maximise profit while Rapido was still just an announcement - same with Bachmann's new tool 37. Hornby have all the hallmarks of a company owned by venture capital. Good riddance I say. Compete or die f*ckers - it's your's to lose. Also, I've had four wines.
@gregscally5119
@gregscally5119 Жыл бұрын
I dont know where you get the idea that Hornby is making huge profits. They have been losing money for almost 10 years. Their current share price is 19p compared to stg 1.50 in 2011. They also have substantial debt. I dont know how Bachman is going because there are no published financials although it was reported some years ago that they were suffering heavy losses. So if the two major producers are not making money the obvious question is how can Acurascale if they selling a more detailed and presumably more costly to produce product. The model train market is showing all the classic signs of a product in the decline stage of the product life cycle exhibited by ever increasing product complexity as each player tries to hold share in a declining market.
@peterwalker6535
@peterwalker6535 Жыл бұрын
With so many born-again modellers coming back to the hobby with time, space and (some) resources, if I were Hornby, the brand they’ll remember, I would go down market to the sub £100 loco level (Railroad) and produce less detailed but good running models. At that price point, younger modellers would also be encouraged in as it’s not too far off birthday and Christmas present prices, whereas £200+ for a loco is (probably) an overstretch….and would you want to put a loco of that value and intricate detail in the hands of an 8 year old? (No disrespect to 8 year olds 😀)…..I was one once, but my locos were die cast Hornby three-rail, practically indestructible!
@the_failed_states
@the_failed_states Жыл бұрын
​@@gregscally5119 I wrote that Hornby boxed Lion to maximise profit, not that Hornby were making huge profits.
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains Жыл бұрын
Greg, I think it's because Hornby are too big to sustain themselves - they have a massive premises and an enormous team. Their models aren't much better than others, yet they're extremely expensive, presumably to try and maintain such a huge company. Accurascale are very different - they operate on a 'work-from-home' basis, and they have a comparatively much smaller team. They also focus on model railway products, and doing them well... rather than trying to serve multiple different hobbies and spreading themselves too thinly. The fact that Accurascale can produce models as good as this at prices as good as this, shows that their business structure can work. Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@the_failed_states
@the_failed_states Жыл бұрын
@@SamsTrains Hornby own Airfix, and new Airfix is just brilliant. Their tooling, presentation and instructions are up there with the best, and sure, their prices have risen but you get an excellent kit for your money. Airfix have also had the decency to release their ancient kits labelling and pricing them accordingly. Revel release ancient kits and price them as if they are new. So at least one arm of Hornby respects their customers.
@milehighclassics
@milehighclassics 11 ай бұрын
BRITISH LEYLAND quality with great design and progress
@jeremyhyman5056
@jeremyhyman5056 Жыл бұрын
The sound on the DCC ones is impressive - including the Hall sensors that detect curves and squeal - is it time for DCC, Sam?.. I know you have a sizeable fleet of analogue locos, but perhaps just one DCC circuit so you can enjoy the Accurascale sounds. I run the 55, 37 and 92 from Accurascale and the sound and other DCC features are best-in-class.
@lachd2261
@lachd2261 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely fantastic. Accurascale are doing the business right now, can’t wait for my buckjumper next year
@r.a.monigold9789
@r.a.monigold9789 Жыл бұрын
...what about the coal shoveler figure that Bachman includes with their diesel electric locos? Accurascale is missing that fellow.
@davidsheriff8989
@davidsheriff8989 Жыл бұрын
Expensive hobby..prohibits many from starting this hobby.....
@floydfan27
@floydfan27 Жыл бұрын
Yes was hoping you’d review one of these fine machines. Will you be reviewing their class 31 when it’s released? Great videos and channel as always mate.
@bennickss
@bennickss Жыл бұрын
Far superior to Bachmann’s version, both in terms of value and detail. As you know I have two (37419 & 37423) sound fitted models and they are PHENOMENAL.
@1471SirFrederickBanbury
@1471SirFrederickBanbury Жыл бұрын
A bit late (I had to repost this as last time something went wrong),but I did thoroughly enjoyed the review and props to Accurascale for the excellent model!
@retrorambles517
@retrorambles517 Жыл бұрын
I think it goes to show how much Hornby and bachman along with other companies really are ripping people off Neither are cheap models But accurascale knocks everyone out of the park Brilliant details and a brilliant runner and you get a feeling of a really great value for money
@kellyashfordtrains2642
@kellyashfordtrains2642 Жыл бұрын
Anything diesels can do, steam engines do a thousand times better.
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains Жыл бұрын
haha maybe not this one Kelly! ;D Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@mrbluesky2050
@mrbluesky2050 Жыл бұрын
start from cold in ten minutes. . . . ? not set fire to grassland in high summer. . . ? require only one man to operate. . . .?
@davidford85
@davidford85 Жыл бұрын
Another bonus feature that Accurascale have built into this model (and a few of their other diesels) is the option to buy replacement wheelsets in P4 or EM, and just switch out the OO wheels. While my collection of P4 locomotives is currently quite small, that number will get a significant boost thanks to handful of Accurascale locos I have or will have. It's a really cool feature I wish other manufacturers thought about as it really only requires a little bit more effort at the design stage, at least for Diesel and Electric locomotives, Steam ones would naturally be a lot more difficult.
@DavidScholz-bu1ix
@DavidScholz-bu1ix Жыл бұрын
I personally just suddenly realized that I also apparently found out from the info 'bout the locomotive in the train simulator app featured on my own tablet that a specifically wonderfully great total of precisely 309 of this official locomotive were built over a specifically wonderfully great 5-year-long-period from 1960-1965 respectfully!
@davidstrains4910
@davidstrains4910 Жыл бұрын
Decent review here Sam, to be honest I couldn’t really care whether the accurascale thwarts bachmann, I own the bachmann one and it’s a really nice model, I also really like it and feel it does some things better, in my view there is room for both and currently bachmann has a much better variety in my view which is the reason why I went with the bachmann one, my one wasn’t that expensive, from kernow I got my bachmann one for £189.99.
@mikeking2539
@mikeking2539 Жыл бұрын
😮I've seen other reviews for the accrascale 37 and it's very much the same conclusion. The accurascale model comes out tops above the Bachmann one.
@Arkay315
@Arkay315 Жыл бұрын
Oh crikey, it's the albanian rozzers.
@dh9033
@dh9033 Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately this is all hot air. If I watch your review and decide that I want to buy this 37 I look around online and find that they're all sold out. End of. 😢
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains Жыл бұрын
Not so, Accurascale still have plenty of Class 37s available to pre-order that haven't sold out - seek and ye shall find: www.accurascale.com/collections/class-37?sca_ref=3860747.WlgWku0GRO (Affiliate) Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@HeyItsAJOmega
@HeyItsAJOmega Жыл бұрын
Holy wow, that's a HUGE rating for this model! So excited to pick one up - the only dilemma I have though is that I do already have a Bachmann 37, I want to say from the 2014 run - 37425 'Concrete Bob' - and I'm not sure how different the Accurascale model would look side by side with it? Would it fit alongside a Bachmann one just fine?
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains Жыл бұрын
It sure is - and truly deserved too! It will indeed fit just fine - and I have some comparisons in this video if you're interested! Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@antonymore9296
@antonymore9296 Жыл бұрын
Accurascale is so much better than the bachmann!!
@tobyytlai
@tobyytlai Жыл бұрын
Re the driver and secondman figures, Accurascale said they're happy to add £10 to the RRP to include them for free :) Also there are retailers that discount the Bachmann 37 to around £160 to £180, so you'll be happy to hear that
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains Жыл бұрын
Yeah... not worth £10 in my opinion - from the images I've seen, the colour 3D printed figures don't look that good. I feel confident that 2 injection moulded figures could be produced and painted for much less than than £10. And I'm glad the Bachmann have been discounted - but £160-£180 is still far too much, given how much better Accurascale's is... the lesser model needs to cost less if you ask me! Thanks for watching - Sam :)
@mccarronfamily
@mccarronfamily Жыл бұрын
Maybe buy a pack and see how realistic they look in person ? A painted figure will never look as accurate @@SamsTrains
@BrakeCoach
@BrakeCoach Жыл бұрын
Accurascale FTW! Im waiting to get my Class 89 model when it releases.
@stuartaaron613
@stuartaaron613 Жыл бұрын
Interesting review, Sam. I have Accurascale's Class 31 on order with them. Regarding problems caused by extra details, in my experience when I find that details interfere with performance or operation of the model, if they aren't necessary for the actual operation of the model, and especially if they aren't very visible, then off they go. If I can I try to remove them so that they can be attached again in the future.
@locohauledforum
@locohauledforum Жыл бұрын
Hi Sam. I know I've mentioned this before, but lets tackle the pricing issue. Most trades operate on a rule of thirds, i.e. if an item costs £50 to make you sell it to a shop for £100 and they sell it for £150, so both the manufacture and the retailer get a £50 profit. This is where the suggested RRP comes from. Where Accurascale is scoring over Bachmann is that they are effectively cutting out the model shops. Yes you can get their items via model shops, but I've never seen them listed at any price other than the price that Accurascale are advertising them at. This suggests to me that the model shops are basically selling them on an affiliate link kind of deal in which they just get a very small percentage for getting the trade, not that Accurascale really need them. If Bachmann were to do the same then their class 37 would retail at £163.30. Effectively both models are being sold by their manufacturers at about the same price, the difference is that Bachmann are giving the retailers an opportunity to make some revenue from theirs. The 'rip off' price you refer to is the retailers mark-up. I imagine if Bachmann were to adopt the Accurascale sales model we would actually see them retailing for £159.99, but no discounts or different prices anywhere.
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains Жыл бұрын
No, I don't think that's quite right. Model shops wouldn't be interested in selling models on the basis of an "affiliate" link kind of deal - they have overheads to pay, and they couldn't afford it. Accurascale sell to retailers at a discount as usual, they just don't play around with artificially high RRPs that make products seem better value than they are when they get "discounted". Where do you get your information that retailers are making no money from Accurascale? If it's just a guess, I'd refrain from spreading such things, as it could be a considerable misrepresentation of the facts. Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@locohauledforum
@locohauledforum Жыл бұрын
@@SamsTrains Hi Sam I was very careful to put in 'This suggests to me' before I made my comment, although perhaps I was not so careful later on. To answer your comments. I wasn't suggesting that retailers are not making any money from Accurascale, just that they are only perhaps making a small percentage. I would imagine that Accurascale want to keep those modellers who don't use the internet happy and supply a certain amount through shops to those customers happy. As to whether shops would sell them for only small amounts, the answer I would suggest is a definite yes! If someone is offering to supply you with a box and you're guaranteed to make a 5 or 10 pounds from it then why wouldn't you? How much do you think they make on a pot of paint or a pack of imitation grass, a box is a box, retailers are not romantic... but with a high ticket item this also comes with the added bonus of producing that all important cash flow, and cash flow is king! Imagine if someone comes to you and and says they can guarantee to deliver you three boxes a month and they will supply them for £190 each and then you can sell them for £200 each. You will make £30 profit every month, but far more importantly because you would normally have 30 days to pay you would have an extra £570 of cash flow in your business every month, and while you could argue that you can't really use it the bank manager will be very impressed and he will feel more happy about lending you money or investing. As I say, I have no idea what Accurascales trading terms are and I'm sure they would not be happy to share them, but my personal guess would be something along those lines, but it is purely a guess. I don't spend a lot of time studying Accurascale prices but I have very rarely seen their items being sold at anything other than the same price that they sell them for, and I'm more than happy to be proved wrong. I think the only times I have seen reductions is with wagons that have perhaps sat around longer than would be expected. What would normally happen in these instances is that the manufacturer would issue a credit rebate against your next order on certain items, this is why you will suddenly see a single item being reduced by all the retailers at the same time. It's not the shops offering you the extra discount but the manufacturer. I'm just trying to give you an insight into my 30+ years of buying and selling in retail and how the system generally works, it is off course not always the same. I hope you find this interesting or at least something to ponder, I'm just trying to maybe put some context in. I certainly have no affiliation with either Bachmann or Accurascale and my thoughts are my own, and they are just that, thoughts and ideas based on experience.
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains Жыл бұрын
No, I checked with a retailer to verify that the information I gave you was correct, and it is. Accurascale sell to retailers at trade price, the same as any other manufacturer does. Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@jamesthatcher4190
@jamesthatcher4190 Жыл бұрын
Accurascale have a trade website and have previously published their trade terms. They do 30-33.33% for trade and generous terms too ( redir terms and free shipping) So basically they are just doing it way better or bachman are overcharging
@locohauledforum
@locohauledforum Жыл бұрын
@@jamesthatcher4190 Thanks James, very interesting. When this model was announced in 2019 with this RRP of £169.99 it was basically the same as Bachmann's 37. Since then we have had Covid and a world wide rise in the cost of shipping and energy that makes peoples eyes water, and business were not given the same level of protection via price capping as households. While some of those costs are starting to fall now they are still way more than they were in 2019. This has led to the large inflation in everything that we buy in the UK, although again some savings are now starting to drift through. Accurascale do not live in a bubble away from the rest of the world so they must be doing something to negate this. Perhaps a 90/10 split with internet/retail sales, so basically selling 10% of product at cost to retailers, you don't make a loss, but it hits your top line. I hope this doesn't sound like an argument, I'm just trying to figure out how they are doing it, the business side is probably more interesting to me than the locos! (lol).
@peterwilliamson4663
@peterwilliamson4663 Жыл бұрын
Good review Sam, hope you do a review on the Accurascale Maner, I have just receive mine and The wait was worth it. Keep up the good work.
@Mac_Spector
@Mac_Spector Жыл бұрын
Another classic adventure of Sam roasting Bachman's prices
@theeventhorizon-valebridge9512
@theeventhorizon-valebridge9512 Жыл бұрын
Bachmann's prices deserve roasting, they are ludicrous and obscene.....BUT, retailers are beginning to offer 35% off the newly tooled 37s and 47s which have been out for a year! This makes them cheaper than Accurascale's!
@TomPrickVixen
@TomPrickVixen Жыл бұрын
Didn't u had a Vtrains class 37 as well?
@davidmolin8944
@davidmolin8944 Жыл бұрын
Another home run from accurascale, hopefully they don’t get too high in the clouds and begin making their models like Bachman lol
@2010ditta
@2010ditta Жыл бұрын
Thats the standard by which all others must reach now Sam.Amazing model. Nice to see it get a 9.52. Nice one.
@paulprice3656
@paulprice3656 Жыл бұрын
Hi Sam another great review. Just one question how do you decide what model you buy to review.
@briandesens144
@briandesens144 Жыл бұрын
Awesome video Sam's trains
@bloodstreak2001
@bloodstreak2001 Жыл бұрын
12:49 I like how there's a little white dog on the side of the diesel engine
@davidcook380
@davidcook380 Жыл бұрын
Thanks Sam l have been waiting for your review and am going to buy one over the bachmann , regards Dave
@jamesthatcher4190
@jamesthatcher4190 Жыл бұрын
The accurascale chains are friction fit. They will pop out with some firm pressure using a small grip or good tweezer. The sand pipes are designed to scale and intended to be cut if your curves are tight. Scoring it low isn’t a real reflection of the fact it’s a much superior mechanism to any of my other stock
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains Жыл бұрын
I did try with tweezers... the parts broke before snapping apart - if they were designed to be snap fit, that didn't work on my example, Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@timjoyner4931
@timjoyner4931 Жыл бұрын
Hi Sam Yep great model. Got Loch Lomond a couple of weeks ago . My third one arrived today. Never thought much of diesels until this 37 came along. Retailers now discounting Bachmann 37's down to Accurascale dcc ready pricing or sometimes less which says it all. Get real Bachmann (and Hornby for that matter) or get stuffed endlessly by the likes of Accurascale.
@shannonman2
@shannonman2 Жыл бұрын
R9ll on the class 50.
@chugwaterjack4458
@chugwaterjack4458 7 ай бұрын
One item for you, and one for the manufacturers: First, you loco builders, so intent on superdetailing the backhead, with numbered gauges, etc. please start including crew, so we don't have to take our new locos apart - especially the diesels/electrics. Second, Sam, now that DCC is becoming so prevalent, how about adding to your format where you show and install a DCC decoder (sound if available), so we know what is involved and what the results might be.
@OlivierGabin
@OlivierGabin Жыл бұрын
I've just stepped on my tongue, and it hurts badly. Accurascale had cranked everything to 11 but the price. I WANT MY BR GREEN ONE ! Only serious drawback, the overall conception of the bogies. Not critical but annoying. So, Bachmann had just to cut the price of their 37 by GBP 100 and they will be competitive.
@nounoufriend1442
@nounoufriend1442 9 ай бұрын
Having spent many year close and intimate with class 37's working at Immingham TMD , I think the Accurascale has it really , them handbrake chains on Bachmann loco look terrible
@grootsan
@grootsan 5 ай бұрын
Good review which confirms I did the right thing to purchase this Loch Lomond 37 with Factory Sound. I also have the Loch Eil 37027 with a white line underneath and Legomanbiffo sound installed. Also a BR Blue Deltic 9021 with Factory Sound. TMC has applied high gloss finish to both 37's and the Deltic. My traindoctor in New South Wales has attached snowploughs to both 37's. Having said that I had a lot of trouble especially with the chains of the Deltic that TMC has redesigned in a marvellous way ! Very delicate nifty parts that love to come off as well (like Guard irons and corner steps and a windhorn and lamphook from the Deltic and a windscreen pushed in on the Loch Lomond). Of course these three Accurascale loco's are (finally !!) a very nice trio but I think Bachmann is more robust and less prone to annoyances like I have mentioned. I still have a much older 37 from Bachmann with large logo and decent factory sound that still looks the part ! Cheers, Jan, Australia
@lukejackson8741
@lukejackson8741 Жыл бұрын
Have you gotten one of those new manors? Curious to see what these guys are capable off with a ‘large’ tender engine
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains Жыл бұрын
I'm still waiting but I'm dying to see what they're like :D Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@Mike-kc8rl
@Mike-kc8rl 10 ай бұрын
If Bachmann matched the Accurascale price point for the 37s i think brand loyalties would play for the tried and tested brand? Bachmann models do feel they will last for a lifetime! I guess time will tell for Accurascale?
@r.a.monigold9789
@r.a.monigold9789 Жыл бұрын
Class 37's have R/H drive on one end and L/H drive on the other. Is that so the loco can be driven in Europe as well? I hope this joke is OK. All us Yanks use it continually (all us means just me).
@JonathanPan-d8u
@JonathanPan-d8u 10 ай бұрын
Who knows what might have happened if the mechanism was 5 star? With screws, proper couplings, and serviceability?
@ronjohnston8693
@ronjohnston8693 Жыл бұрын
Quality. review Sam, why would any body buy a Bachmann? are they trying to do what Hornby have done over the years and keep the competition down, as you say Bachmann have been very expensive for years, you have now proved this.
@tonyrobinson362
@tonyrobinson362 4 ай бұрын
The Bachmann 47s sound fitted are superb. Nobody pays full rrp for anything including locos, Bachmann 37s can be cheaper all round they are good all rounders.
@michaelschultz5127
@michaelschultz5127 4 ай бұрын
How the s@#t can the average train modelers have good trains without paying through the nose, even the used ones are too expensive. You tell em right Sam
@MichaelMcKinnon-jf1yy
@MichaelMcKinnon-jf1yy Жыл бұрын
In other words Bachmann makes a more maintenance friendly model and actually the grills on the sides of the front of the locomotive are more realistic, with that said you should have left all the switches in the on position. It's beautiful to see a model 37 in person
@tbrooke3016
@tbrooke3016 Жыл бұрын
I feel like accurascales form/function problems are an inexperience thing that will get better 🤞
@mickking1783
@mickking1783 Жыл бұрын
Time will tell regarding longevity of the Accurascale as they are not easy to service. Lighting is an issue when running. No cab lights or engine room lights and before you mentioned it yes the cab lights would not be on when running but some modellers do. There are no directional lights at low speeds.
@MrBnsftrain
@MrBnsftrain Жыл бұрын
5:24 I'm more interested in the trailing locomotive in that photo. It looks like a class 25 without a yellow front, which the picture caption calls "Ethel 2". It's actually an electric train-heating car rebuilt from a recently retired locomotive. I'd love to see Accurascale make those. I am surprised the switches inside deal don't align with the lighting functions. If it's for DCC functionality, why have six switches and not three?
@ted5hhh1241
@ted5hhh1241 Жыл бұрын
Reviewing a dcc model on a dc layout . Your not seeing all the benefits. The lighting and sound is superb on the Bachman model .
@AllensTrains
@AllensTrains Жыл бұрын
You'll have to see how the Accurascale model stacks up after a period of time. I should chalk this one up as due for a long-term test in 5 years' time, and see if it is still going. With all that weight, to drag around, I'd wonder how long it will be until the motor burns out!
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains Жыл бұрын
Yeah that’s true! I will be interested to see how well they last! They certainly won’t get much servicing!
@mccarronfamily
@mccarronfamily Жыл бұрын
Why not, motor access is super easy?@@SamsTrains
@tonyrobinson362
@tonyrobinson362 6 ай бұрын
We use to pack rolled up newspaper into the side cab windows in winter to block drafts, When we where working double headed Welbeck colliery to Toton with 43 mgrs in the 70s.
@ballbag
@ballbag Жыл бұрын
this review prompted to buy my first loco model. Sadly the livery i'd want is out of stock and unavailable to order. Never mind then I guess, i wont be getting into the hobby at this point
@tonyrobinson362
@tonyrobinson362 4 ай бұрын
Yes and the buffers haven't been trimmed have they just cut off the sprues not very professional.
@mariagriffin6360
@mariagriffin6360 Жыл бұрын
Why do some class 37s have a split head box and a door in the front and back of the train and others class 37s don’t
@alantoms3263
@alantoms3263 Жыл бұрын
Just purchased one myself. Huge weight and traction in the testing. Has anyone done a loadtest?
@Teesbrough
@Teesbrough Жыл бұрын
Hi Sam. So great to see you give a score above 9.5 to any loco - an extremely rare event. Accurascale’s 37 is now the new yardstick for all manufacturers. My only problem with the loco to date is the two I ordered are both slated for delivery in the final production group of the first batch. Last update on 2nd June was for despatch in late August but it seems this timescale has slipped again. Meanwhile, I’m left to envy everyone who’s already received theirs.
@peterwalker6535
@peterwalker6535 Жыл бұрын
Still no news on my pre-order placed in April 2022! Every time I enquire of Derails it’s delayed. Great review though and can’t wait (although I have to ☹️).
@ste9villae364
@ste9villae364 Жыл бұрын
Are you going to be reviewing accurascales manor?
@Meddled
@Meddled Жыл бұрын
Accurascale look to have got the shade of blue more accurate as well. BR Blue has a bit of yellow in it.
@danielsellers8707
@danielsellers8707 Жыл бұрын
For me it would be the late 2000s ViTrains model as it wasn't made in China.
@gilbertporter4992
@gilbertporter4992 Жыл бұрын
Goodie! Hope to see the AS Manor next!
@Alextrains502
@Alextrains502 Жыл бұрын
Hi Sam love your videos and your energy
@tonyrobinson362
@tonyrobinson362 4 ай бұрын
Just needs weathering unless your modelling ex works.
@davidhinks8384
@davidhinks8384 Жыл бұрын
Thanks Sam, what a stunner! When will the more well-known manufacturers get the hint and drop their prices AND up their quality??
@tonyrobinson362
@tonyrobinson362 4 ай бұрын
Bachmann are pretty close, Hornby on a different planet!
@miguelangelgarrido7233
@miguelangelgarrido7233 Жыл бұрын
Hola buenas tardes excelente video un gran modelo clasico abrazo grande
@paulnicoll7431
@paulnicoll7431 Жыл бұрын
Did you notice the manual included fake staple rust and coffee stains on the back
@andypreston6899
@andypreston6899 Жыл бұрын
Does the fan work?
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains Жыл бұрын
Sadly not actually - I half expected it to! Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@callumdebruyn5620
@callumdebruyn5620 Жыл бұрын
Sam just wondering is it okay to use a locos box as a cradle
@nzrfan608
@nzrfan608 9 ай бұрын
Is there a reason why most of Accurascale locos are coming soon?
@BrecklandSpotting
@BrecklandSpotting Жыл бұрын
Eh, the Bachman one is fine. What about price. And aswell I don't really care what one is 0.00009 percent better. What u struggle with is knowing that the big company is obviously better, in multiple instances, you cannot admit that hornby or Bachmann are better than some others
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains Жыл бұрын
You're right, I can't admit that because in this case it isn't true. It isn't 0.000009% better, it's 30% heavier, £40 cheaper, and by far the better runner, Thanks for watching, Sam :)
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