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Acedeck Nomad N3 - Huge Range? Awesome Performance? (100 Mile Riding Review)

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Күн бұрын

In this video I present my thoughts on the Acedeck Nomad N3, after riding it for over 100 miles, and after racing it at Electrify Race League Phoenix! This is a new style of review, covering a lot of points while riding the board!
The Acedeck Nomad N3 is the successor to the popular Nomad N1, which brought a split-angle deck, TKP's, gear drives, and a very powerful 14s board combo to the production board market. The N3 aims to improve on things from the N1, while also providing a reliable, long range, and powerful board that you can ride wherever you want.
For a production-style board, this thing has a ton of power, a comfy deck, and great tires to take you on your commute or group ride. The deck provides a strong and comfortable platform to stand on for extended length rides, relaxing the W concave that was present on the N1.
Comparing to the N1, I did notice that the ESC was a bit better at controlling the large amount of power that it provides to the user, however, it still needs a little bit of work, with some lag on throttle release and strange feeling while at constant speeds.
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Timestamps:
00:05 Nomad N3!
01:07 Different Kind of Video
02:13 Elevation Chart
03:02 Range Testing Methodology
03:58 How I got this board
04:25 Why has it taken so long]
04:55 I Raced it!
06:14 Stock Bushings
07:18 Speed Modes
08:32 TKP Trucks
09:10 Acedeck Quality Upgrade
11:06 Riptide Shilling
12:11 does it need to do everything?
13:51 Bushings
15:37 Battery
16:19 Range Update 1
18:52 Deck
21:30 7 inch tires
23:09 Performance Teasers
24:40 Improved ESC over N1
26:02 Range Update 2
26:58 Review context
27:49 3 Gear Drives
29:07 Summary
30:00 Best Value Performance Board?
30:53 Range Update 3
31:38 Range Update 4
31:56 Range Update 4
32:35 Range Update 5
33:47 Final 20%
34:16 Good Enough for most people
36:04 Good speed at low bat
36:21 Esc Improvement
38:42 The Final Numbers!
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@NitroSoldier
@NitroSoldier 2 ай бұрын
Love the long video as I can just chillout to it and learn more honest information than those 5-10mins fake reviewers channels sucking up to the company for free money and boards.
@RBEMotion
@RBEMotion 2 ай бұрын
Thank you for the feedback and glad you enjoyed!
@michaelaugust9021
@michaelaugust9021 24 күн бұрын
Love this board.....ordered one
@RBEMotion
@RBEMotion 15 күн бұрын
Great decision!
@biddle444
@biddle444 Ай бұрын
Great review. Acedeck definitely makes a solid board. Everyone I know that has the N3 really like it. Comfortable, Great range and very durable. Keep ‘em comin 🤘🤘. Enjoyed the longer video too. It’s nice to have playin while working on a board or chillin.💯
@RBEMotion
@RBEMotion 29 күн бұрын
Thank you for watching! Working on the Pt2!
@RBEMotion
@RBEMotion 29 күн бұрын
Thank you for watching! Working on the Pt2!
@skfunk4550
@skfunk4550 2 ай бұрын
I remember when i was one of the 1st (UK) to get the N1 and kept moaning about how aggressive and jerky it was and not able to find easily the throttle up after de-accelerating without that jerking and throwing off. I was told by so many no it's fine without even having the board lol. Most comment i got from "reviewers" i won't name but they did back down after a while. N3 deffo is completely different and much better.
@RBEMotion
@RBEMotion 2 ай бұрын
Haha definitely. Having ridden both I can notice a significant difference. The N3 is much more controllable even at 100% acceleration curve, while still being incredibly quick.
@acedeckboards
@acedeckboards 2 ай бұрын
Yep, you were right the whole time. It was too jerky for most people. I think we are so used to doing acceleration tests and testing new setups that our own testing feedback from myself and our board testers was blurred. We also get used to these imperfections in throttle curves and so on. But after listening to your feedback and others we went back to the drawing board. Now the acceleration curve is smoother without the board being slower per say, and out of the box, the acceleration speed up line is at 40% even in S+.
@skfunk4550
@skfunk4550 2 ай бұрын
@@RBEMotion Keep doing this type of reviews please as well as your MAMBA and other bits. Love genuine reviews and not a selling influencer. 😒😒
@skfunk4550
@skfunk4550 2 ай бұрын
@@acedeckboards You guys make probably the best looking, powerful if needed to be boards and keep upgrading, updating which is awesome.
@RBEMotion
@RBEMotion 2 ай бұрын
@@skfunk4550 I don't intend to stop - but I do want to be able to get more data on my sheets and try to reach a wider audience. Need to think about how to achieve that
@rafaelvega59
@rafaelvega59 Ай бұрын
Love mine. Already put close to 900 miles! Very nimble board and super comfortable! I don’t mind the weight at all, I feel like it makes up for it with the performance. I like using 6 inch novas for street riding and 7 inch novas for more aggressive off-roading. I can’t recommend this board enough!
@RBEMotion
@RBEMotion Ай бұрын
Very nice! It's definitely a high quality board, especially for the price
@eBoard3R
@eBoard3R 2 ай бұрын
🤟🏽⚡️🤙🏽⚡️🤟🏽 *Hella miles for big wheels!* Interestin note about the lag 🤔
@RBEMotion
@RBEMotion 2 ай бұрын
I agree! I was quite impressed at how far it was able to go. This is the longest I've ever gone on a board in a single range test. Big battery, big range, I suppose. Yeah, not sure about that. Must be some weird throttle filtering going on or something. I notice it more because I'm so used to VESC boards.
@acedeckboards
@acedeckboards 2 ай бұрын
The lag is something we have fixed in our new batches of boards., Though it only noticeable when doing acceleration jumps (flick up and release). Most ESCS have that as a feature so that when going very fast and releasing the throttle uphill for exemple, you don't get a sudden slow down that jumps you forward because of the deceleration If you push the remote, then release it as you would normally, it's simply not there. Not that this is an excuse, but it won't impact you in normal riding situations, even high speed. In the situation where you do like to flick the throttle and release it, you will notice it slightly. When racing, it becomes more apparent. That's why we got rid of it since Esk8con.
@eBoard3R
@eBoard3R 2 ай бұрын
@@acedeckboards great to hear it's been addressed/fixed! 👏🏽👏🏽
@slickrock1371
@slickrock1371 26 күн бұрын
I think the complaint you had about the ESC was something called, "over run." I wonder if it can be dialed back in the app?
@RBEMotion
@RBEMotion 15 күн бұрын
Hmmm interesting. I didn't see anything that could dial that back in the remote - and there is no mobile app at this time.
@ttvpalmingtrees1300
@ttvpalmingtrees1300 Ай бұрын
can anyone send or post the factory remote settings? I broke a remote and ordered a new one but its settings aren't for the N3
@RBEMotion
@RBEMotion 29 күн бұрын
Oof that's a tough situation. I would personally hit up acedeck in their new Facebook support group. They should be able to help you out!
@ajplant96
@ajplant96 2 ай бұрын
Got to try this board at a track day not too long ago and really didn't like it. Remote thumb wheel just didn't feel precise and the trucks twitchy despite riptide bushings installed and set up for stability as that track called for it. I was watching the speed on the remote and could see it was getting up to 50-55kph pretty quick but it just felt slow, like the acceleration was actually too smooth. Not a bad board, in fact a better offering than most prebuilt options atm. Just the spoils of custom builds affecting my opinion I think.
@RBEMotion
@RBEMotion 2 ай бұрын
Lol thanks for watching. I do understand where you're coming from, being a DIY guy myself. I've had a really hard time finding any boards with hobbywing or Lingyi that are able to deliver the power quite as smooth as VESC. As for the acceleration, out of the box, it is turned down quite a bit, even in S+ mode. There were complaints about how violent the N1 was when it released, and how it was "unrideable" because of the throttle response. I presume the changed settings on the N3 are partly due to that (my performance testing on it is at 100% throttle setting). Anyway, the throttle wheel could be better, it is a bit loose. As for the trucks, I think that is a valid criticism as well, as soon as you're over 30mph, it becomes a bit scary. I haven't found the right riptide combo yet, but maybe its out there.
@acedeckboards
@acedeckboards 2 ай бұрын
It's a valid criticism that both yourself and Ryan are making, and that is the thumb wheel behavior. It's a lot better than it used to be, and much better than most prebuilt, but it is not yet VESC level, though it's almost there. However we don't believe there is any non vesc- board out there with better throttle control, mapping and smoother acceleration curves, since we upgraded and refined our firmware earlier this year. We would love to swap to VESC, but for mass production, there is just no VESC that is stable enough for us to make that swap, although MakerX is getting there, and we're keeping an eye on it. Especially for us to have better features like smart reverse, among other things. Regarding acceleration, while it's smoother than our N1, it is still one of the fastest acceleration boards out there. It just doesn't jolt you like it used to. The first 5mph are much more manageable, and there is much more mid end torque than before. A smooth acceleration curve might feel slower than a board that jolts you forward off the line, when it is actually faster. Regarding the setup, I would be surprised if it was focused on stability for track day. Especially with TKPs which are not ideal for racing, (though some people took the N3 at the top of the advanced times at esk8con), you want to get them to be as nimble as you can for some of these sharp turns. For the 30mph instability, we've had very different feedback from riders who told us they can have it full throttle and feel super stable, even without less than satisfactory stock bushings (that have been upgraded since this review). I think if you're used to riding RKPs and channel trucks, it takes some getting used to, just like going back to DKP after a while, it will feel absolutely unusable. We've also specifically designed these trucks to have a tighter turning radius than our previous TKPS, so they are a little less stable in that sense, if you don't put in the work or know how to keep a board stable. In the age of over tightened trucks, 3 links, and now dampeners, I believe we are spoiled when it comes to stability, and we often forget how to control boards on TKPs or other traditional truck systems, where rider skill plays a major part. Thats why some riders with DKPs loose as a goose end up doing well in racing, even when there is big straight lines.
@ajplant96
@ajplant96 2 ай бұрын
@@acedeckboards Really solid professional response! Glad to hear you guys are looking into the maker, I only just switched to one and after a bit of a learning curve with the programming I think I hit the sweet spot for it. VESC based boards, especially sold by retailers would definitely need to be programmed a certain way rather than out of the box so would also be a pretty expensive process to get units out just in paying staff for their time programming them, so the work you've done with this esc is admirable when considering the overall performance as a result. Suppose what you've done with increasing turning radius for the trucks may have affected the feeling of stability but as someone who has next to no experience with tkp trucks (aside from one other board DIY board back to back with the N3 running a very similar bushing setup that day) I won't say it was unstable, I was comfortably handling 30mph on your board, just had a lot of movement I wasn't used to so clearly quite a carvey board if anything. The other board I felt I could get up to 40mph and wasn't far off doing if it wasn't speed limited to just below that. The track we're using is a gokart track with a 145m straight line being the longest and overall less emphasis on corners so stability will be key here on race day as opposed to more technical tracks like Esk8con had. Will say altogether I did like the N3! If I weren't spoiled by custom builds it would be high up on my list of prebuilt boards to look at atm! Hosting group rides in Brisbane/Gold Coast, Australia I do get asked about board recommendations a lot since most of the locals are used to Evolve and looking to move on from them not long after buying their boards so will definitely include your brand in my list of recommendations, the NYX has been a popular upgrade for a few Gold Coast riders now as well.
@UnchartedWorlds
@UnchartedWorlds 2 ай бұрын
Hi I checked the whole video, I may have missed if you mentioned carving. How is carving with this beast? Can it carve real good? Also did you have belt or gear drive? Is this thing silent or can you hear electric sound? I got onsra black carve 3 Pro Direct Drive, and it's dead silent. Compared to something like that would this thing be silent?
@RBEMotion
@RBEMotion 2 ай бұрын
I did not in fact mention carving, thanks for pointing that out. It carves alright. In my opinion, carving on TKP is not as fun as it is on RKP or DKP. This can be helped a bit with bushings, and it does carve alright, but at the end of the day, its personal preference. I'm much more of a straight-liner that commutes rather than group rides, but I give it maybe a 6/10 on carvability. The N3 only ships right now with the 3gear Element 4.0 gear drive. It has been great in my experience thus far, and sounds pretty nice. AS far as loudness goes, this will be significantly louder than DD. I've ridden a couple DD boards and they're all dead silent. However, it is a pleasant sound in my opinion, and is not obnoxious.
@acedeckboards
@acedeckboards 2 ай бұрын
​@@RBEMotion I think that is up to rider riding style as well, and, and the bushing and bushing washer setup. TKPs are universally great for carving. And its a big focus when designing ours. You also mention the dead center with TKPs, this is not a characteristic of TKPs per say, but mainly barrel bushings, and the washers they are fitted with.. RKP and TKPs have the same center behavior. It's just that most TKPS, including ours and the ONSRA ones you have tried come with tall bushing washers by default, which are good for semi beginners to have a stable rider. But it also means it takes a little more effort to squeeze that bearing and change its shape when turning. The reason that a somewhat dead center is good for less experienced riders, is that when they're going at high speed and there is a debris on the road that raises a wheel, then the bushing acts more as a suspension. A super twitchy center means that the board can easily over react to small road imperfections and start a speed wobble. Swapping to flat washers or just flipping the washers that comes with the board so that they are on the flat side with no walls, greatly improves the center sensibility, and the turning radius, of course, especially with some nice riptide bushings. RKPs are not great for carving. They are simply easier to carve with, offering a very simple linear ride and smooth changes of direction, but trying to get tighter curves and fast changes of direction will be very difficult. DKPs are not great carving trucks either, they just allow beginners to get these tighter lines without much effort. TKPs is a great balance of improved stability and rider involvement, with tighter and more reacting turning behaviors than RKP. The main goal when making the N3 was to make it a great carving machine and so far the feedback on the carving from customers have been very positive. But not everyone gets the same impressions and yours are just as valuable, Ryan!
@acedeckboards
@acedeckboards 2 ай бұрын
Please check our reply to Ryan in the comment below, regarding the carving :)
@UnchartedWorlds
@UnchartedWorlds 2 ай бұрын
@@acedeckboards acedeckboard thank you for such a detailed informative reply! I'm checking some of your boards on your website right now 👌
@biddle444
@biddle444 Ай бұрын
@@acedeckboardsI’d luv to get the N3. Was soo nice riding at esk8con. Can’t thank u guys enough for gettin me my new x1 motor even though it was discontinued. Great customer service and great boards. Keep doin what your doing💯🔥💯.
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