Avid Pro Tools has been dethroned as the "Industry Standard"

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[@clintmusic1]

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[@MichaelLiningMusic]

Started in Garageband in 07 and switched to Logic in 09. Never looked back. What drew me in was the incredible software instruments that just worked, and were provided free, and had no latency even on a PowerMac G5. No latency keyboard samples. It was amazing.

[@sonnybrix77]

Spot on!

[@Icanttellwhosrealanymore]

So genuine question … if the other Daws all magically improved to have zero latency like logic … what would you pick then … and why ?

[@sonnybrix77]

@ maybe FL. But I just don’t like FL’s work flow when it comes to mixing…

[@nagomizik9358]

Same here!! Logic 4 ever!!

[@nagomizik9358]

No subscription !!! Period!!🥸🥸🤯🤯

[@DoctorMcFarlandStudios]

Perpetual means you keep the version you bought and not an automatic update to any future versions unless otherwise specified that all future updates are included.

[@jmclane27]

Yeaaa…I get it…don’t think the a lot of people do. While I would LOVE for avid to make it free or at the very least, cheaper to do the perpetual upgrade(think it’s about $250…I’ve only done it once since buying Protools in about 2019). I do also understand that it’s business. And understandably, if I license music to a brand under a perpetual license and then I decide to remix that song and make it new does that brand then automatically get the rights to my updated and remix version for free or do we have to work out a new deal for the updated version? Wonder what Clint thinks

[@DoctorMcFarlandStudios]

@@jmclane27 Exactly. Its a different situation when it comes to YOUR music because you want to get paid just like everyone else. Why should software be any different. Justin of Reaper is a millionaire and doesn't need the money bad enough to charge for Reaper updates nor does he care if you use it for free. Apple is also a large company and makes so much money off their computers maybe they don't need to charge for Logic Pro like Pro Tools does. Everyone has a bottom line that needs to be met.

[@ChristRecords2O16]

And I’m still ok using what I bought

[@kareem1592]

I agree! Studio one workflow is better to me

[@johncapo2843]

so you like tomato..........others dont better yet go write your own software

[@shan5445]

@@johncapo2843 PT is rubbish we all know this

[@HITHURSTBEATS]

I started using ProTools in early 90's - because it was industry standard for mixing and recording. But I always hated how PT purposely limited tracks - not based on computer processing - but just to force upgrading... So ridiculous

[@trackmusic252]

Only because most couldn't afford it.

[@ChristRecords2O16]

Straight hijacking all in the 90’s and 2000’s. But it was what we had

[@peterbarker6641]

Early 90's? Everything was analog in the early 90's. Digital was all linear 3348, X-850.

[@HITHURSTBEATS]

@@peterbarker6641 i got first music studio job using ProTools in 94 - ProTools was just starting to get used in music studios. ProTools was used for film audio editing at that point. But even though music studios were mostly analog gear - the bulk of the work was still digital - ADATs...

[@juggz143]

The ball was dropped when Avid "retired" Digidesign 😫

[@theonecalledvino8165]

Exactly! Just another corporate acquisition

[@ChristRecords2O16]

Still using my digital 002

[@whittymusic]

I disagree with Barry on most of his posts. This one as well. There are too many blanket statements he makes. Try and send a Cubase, Nuendo or logic file to a studio. It’s a requirement to deliver post mixes in film and tv in pro tools for a large majority of major networks and there is a reason. I agree pro tools is behind the times for music production, but for post and live tracking an orchestra or full band it IS the industry standard. No it’s not necessary on everything especially the low budget world and I fully agree.its pricing is a ripoff, but it’s still necessary

[@PhilMcGowan]

Yup, came here to say just that. Not sound like an a-hole, but at the top pro level of post and music, Pro Tools is absolutely still the standard. Walk into ANY major studio here in LA or in NYC, Nashville, or London and they're all still running Pro Tools as the primary DAW. Same goes for any major post house, PT is standard.

[@porkbeats]

I have to disagree. I was in LA and most all studios were using Nuendo and bouncing down to PT. PT would not do what Nuendo was doing without crashing and such lack of features. I always thought it was a standard because the studios invested in it and payed a lot of money.

[@cavrenodem2436]

​@@porkbeats You litarally just contradicted yourself. They started in Nuendo and ended up in PT. 😂 That literally is the reason it is STILL the standard. Until your statement no longer contains, "Then they bounced everything to PT", it will still be king. Why are people trying so hard to reword the obvious only to end up saying it anyway?? It always ends up on PT regardless of where it started. 😅 Just mind biggling why people play these silly word games.

[@PhilMcGowan]

@@porkbeats Like what was just said, you proved our point. When it comes to final recording & mixing of major projects, it's almost ENTIRELY done in Pro Tools. Watch Mix With The Masters, nearly every mixer on that series is working in Pro Tools. Walk into Capitol, Conway, The Village, Henson, Sound City, NRG, etc and they're all running Pro Tools. Same goes for all the big scoring stages here in town as well. Composers and Producers have more diversity in DAWs but when it comes to recording & mixing of major projects, it's almost entirely still in PT, hence why it's still considered the standard.

[@porkbeats]

@@cavrenodem2436 Um. They only bounced because the labels demanded it. Your missing the point. If pro tools was the king, than why would they do all the work in Nuendo, than push it to PT? PT was not the Daw to do the work. It was just the file the labels wanted it in. If it was the "King" there would be no Nuendo involved AT . ALL

[@justinp.3256]

And I did pro tools certifications back in the day... haven't used it in ages

[@KevinClutchBeats]

Crazy I was just about to buy the perpetual license. I just watched the Barry John video before this one and I can say fasho yaw just saved me $200. Thank you 🙏🏾

[@ChristRecords2O16]

Perpetual is different then subscription. If you can get a full version for $200 and never pay again, buy it. Only upgrade security portions and plug-ins

[@KevinClutchBeats]

@ Thing is, what’s being said is Pro Tools isn’t even worth it now, perpetual or not. It’s better to use Studio One or pretty much any other DAW. Which I’ll be trying to work with FL Studio, and Studio One sense that’s where I do most of my work anyway.

[@DoctorMcFarlandStudios]

Studio One also has a Perpetual license which means you keep the version you bought and you get access to a years worth of updates but once that year is up you need to pay again for another year of updates. If you never want to update again then you are not forced to.

[@willrobinson7578]

Isn't that what ProTools perpetual license is?

[@BezaleelIsrael]

Studio one and luna is where it's at.

[@clintmusic1]

I’ve been meaning to play around with Luna.

[@bobchris11]

I’m giving my age away but the year Nuendo 2 came out i gave up on PT. Why anyone would buy a program tied to expensive hardware was beyond me.

[@doziermuzic]

I used to rep Nuendo over Pro Tools back in the day. I thought it was better back then and it's surely better nowadays.

[@215subzero]

Nuendo 1 was and is still better than pro tools though 😂😂

[@porkbeats]

I said the same thing. Once I got on Nuendo which was introduced to me by Major Pro-Tools engineers in LA, I never used it as my main start to finish DAW. And they didn't use it from start to finish every time as well. I've never looked back and only use it when requested. Cubase and Nuendo is way more bang for the buck. IMHO

[@goseason2343]

I love Pro Tools but I use Ableton for Production. When I mix serious projects and clients work it’s always done in Pro Tools. I only record Vocals in Pro Tools. I have a perpetual license and do not have a subscription. I would never use a subscription for any reason for anything in music. I will say that their business model is jacked up. A few other companies have you pay to update. Like Ableton, Arturia, Waves and others

[@clintmusic1]

Yeah, I feel you on having the perpetual. Great to have if you don’t have to update.

[@diversekcox]

We’re in the same boat. I use it only for recording and mixing but I create in Ableton.

[@incognegro2200]

I have NEVER used Pro Tools, I’m so glad!

[@Activation1111]

Once I heard that pro tools went to a subscription model,, I thought they were nothing but thieves and robbers. It is simply another example of corporate greed. Making their products more complicated than they needed to be. So they would ‘appear’ to be more professional and superior to others. I am so happy to see talented professionals calling pro tools out.

[@billyshakespeare1696]

The people making these videos are misunderstanding something: Pro Tools is not the Industry Standard because of its features and tools. Pro Tools is the industry standard because you can find it on every major studio’s computers. Every million-dollar studio nationwide has Pro Tools, thus ensuring compatibility with all the other professional studios. That is what makes it the Industry Standard.

[@trackmusic252]

Only because they chose that when nobody actually could afford it. Now they had these programs that's out now back then I'm pretty sure they wouldn't be pro tools souly

[@jae6220]

@@trackmusic252huh?

[@filkertom]

I have Acid Pro, Cakewalk, Ableton, Sonic Music Maker, Pro Tools, Bitwig... for years now, I have been a Reaper guy, and nothing comes close to it.

[@simbaking6338]

Same here!!!!

[@kasoimusic]

Reaper workflow stills relays on VST third party plugins which is Steinberg technology.

[@Gang-25j]

@@kasoimusicevery daw does except pro tools duh

[@vodkastudios4170]

What are a couple features that reaper has that you can't live without when comparing it to Ableton if you don't mind me asking?

[@filkertom]

@@vodkastudios4170 The scripting language is so deep. People have created hundreds of new functions, UIs, etc. for it. I also find it way more intuitive than Ableton. The Ableton layout just seems way too cluttered and busy to me. Obviously, ymmv. And the recent improvements in routing, razor editing, and takes/lanes are nothing short of revolutionary.

[@DAFFONEOfficial]

Studio One is the best now🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@akvellieduke6581]

Pro tools don’t have the tools 😂😂😂😂 studio one is king 👑

[@clintmusic1]

Studio One is 🔥

[@wufietapez]

Realist words in 2025

[@galeriadesebastian]

Ye

[@SuperMBARutgers2013]

Why? Please. Asking for a friend

[@petergreen1869]

​@@SuperMBARutgers2013studio one just seems to have the best parts of all the other daws. And i use them all.

[@Shawneverette]

I think Barry is correct about the company and how they changed but it is still a great Daw full stop. Most people who have worked on large mixing boards, in studios or live, and used hardware get around Protools just fine. It is set up to flow like working in a studio.

[@bigtizzleproductions2589]

Damn everybody on Pro Tools head. Bolo done did like 3 videos on this.

[@BoloDaProducer]

Sole’ did 😂

[@bigtizzleproductions2589]

@ hey @bolodaproducer. It’s good y’all bringing awareness and maybe they’ll step it up and get rid of that damn subscription ish

[@Gang-25j]

@@BoloDaProducer😂😂😂😂😂

[@ChaseWashington-d2f]

It helps get them views

[@cavrenodem2436]

Nothing but a premediated ish storm for views. They all really know it's still on top. Nothing but click/rage bait.

[@darwinhairston2203]

For some time I thought I was the only one that felt this way. I don’t recall the last time I upgraded my ProTools. I’ve opened it far more times setting it up than I have used it which has only been 2 or 3 times.

[@Official360]

Pro Tools & Reason f*ckin' the game up with these subscription models

[@clintmusic1]

Oh! Is Reason subscription only now too?

[@Official360]

@@clintmusic1Not exclusively but the way the pricing model is set up it caters towards the subscriber vs the perpetual licensee. Reason+ you get everything for a hot $20 a month. Perpetual gets you a few devices & you have to pay for each device as an "add-on".

[@kippinthemix1401]

As ive worked professionally for 16 years in ATL and various states. PT's is still what the vast majority of what people use. Ive been over seas and theor goto is Logic. Me personally Studio One, but i assure you, theres not one professional studio ive never been to that doesnt have protools.

[@All_Ent]

Exactly it’s still industry standard KZbin chill lol

[@kippinthemix1401]

@All_Ent I can guarantee just about every record on billboard is currently sitting in a ptx file without even a doubt in my mind. 😂

[@215subzero]

@@All_Entthat doesn’t mean it’s the standard that just means that it was used the most. Most studios are older than people think. And some these studios may have pro tools but it’s not a requirement to use anymore it’s required to know but not use. I’ve worked in abbey road in la and patchwork in atl. A lot of engineers in atl are using logic and FL. Overseas are using Fl and studio one as well as logic. Studio one more than logic actually. Depending where you are.

[@215subzero]

@@kippinthemix1401 that is true and false. It’s a few from last year that was mixed, mastered and recorded in Fl studio.

[@Gmanrushfan]

Yeah… it’s still the industry standard. Not sure why this is the 3rd video on this subject (in 3 days) that KZbin has recommended to me… And why these guys are jumping on the bandwagon repeating this drivel.

[@Vybescube]

We have similar experiences with Avid. I had the same perpetual license. I was so pissed 😡 I send them a nice email and deleted it off my computer. I’ve since moved on to Logic and I am happy. I can do everything in Logic. Not going to let no company bully me.

[@mikenoface]

The damage was done with Waves. I bailed when they went to subscription and will never use their stuff again.

[@TheTeamYDKChannel]

Been on Cubase since the Atari and still rocking with it

[@diversekcox]

Ngl, I’m most likely I’m moving over to Studio1 from ProTools within the next month.

[@fattmusiek5452]

Using SSL2, loving it. Great video

[@paavojumppanen914]

On perpetual licenses, I've been conned by that as well but on a different product. They get away with it cos they tie the perpetual license to a version. Once you need a new version, you need a new license and they make you pay. My advice on any software company advertising perpetual licenses is to be very sceptical as it most likely isn't perpetual.

[@nagomizik9358]

By default they all should be perpetual.. If you have to go out if your way to introduce this “perpetual license “ concept that raises a huge red flag for me!!,

[@paavojumppanen914]

Some "clever" marketing person introduced the concept to make more money for them would be my assessment. They thought they can call a license for a "major" version a perpetual one, then when a new major release is made, charge for upgrades. They get extra premium for it being called perpetual, then upgrades and maybe a sales uplift from people believing it will be truly perpetual. I found that out for myself with a "perpetual" license to filmora but I'm guessing there are plenty of other software companies that did the same cynical thing. I won't ever purchase anything "perpetual" in software again because I don't trust the label.

[@SimonePhoenix]

I “cut my teeth”, in a manner of speaking, on Pro Tools, when it belonged to Digidesign. Once Avid got hold of it, it was OVER. Nuff said.

[@clintmusic1]

Yes! Loved the Digidesign days.

[@LeeBlaske]

I remember going to an Emu Systems Emulator II sound swap meeting at a studio in LA in the mid-eighties. At the time Digidesign was just getting started. They were selling some software for editing sound files in early Mac computers, and they were there to show it to people. Their display was set up on a little card table. At the time, no one would have thought that they'd end up challenging the New England Digital Synclavier system for digital audio. But, they did. And then, there was the fight to replace 24 track analog tape and large format analog consoles in professional studios. They gradually won over that market, too. But, the thing to remember is NOTHING stays the same and NOTHING remains king of the hill, forever, especially in the fast-moving technology area. Avid/Digidesign has reached the end of the line, and the competition is edging them out.

[@LMarquee]

I've been using Logic Pro for almost 12 years. I briefly studied engineering at a professional studio that uses Pro Tools. Outside of compatibility with other studios, there's not much Pro Tools can do that Logic Pro can't, but there are a TON of things Logic can do that Pro Tools can't for a much lower price. Pro Tools is the only DAW that I can't recommend to anyone other than people who want to be employed at a commercial studio.

[@GC-nd1lp]

Do you edit multitracked drums in Logic Pro?

[@LMarquee]

@@GC-nd1lp No. I mostly produce, mix, and master Hip Hop music. Do you find it easier to edit multi-tracked drums in Pro Tools?

[@GC-nd1lp]

@@LMarquee I do. Beat Detective is much simpler for slicing, quantizing, and doing fades. I'd still be in Logic Pro if I didn't do much editing. I hate doing anything with MIDI in PT.

[@LMarquee]

@@GC-nd1lp That's fair! I'm used to editing audio in Logic. I don't work with a ton of live instruments other than vocals and guitars.

[@AudiobyVALE]

Thank you for this video! I almost went back and bought the perpetual license but now I won’t. I’ve been using Waveform Pro, tough transition, but I’m getting everything done!

[@apologiajosecarlos]

Pro Tools has NOT been the standard for the past 10 years. But it has been silenced. Very good DAWS are Logic and Cubase Pro 14 is a BEAST!!! There are other DAWS that are also good. Ableton Live for Live music.

[@twinflametaurus]

Less latency, and less need for more expensive outboard equipment when using daws on Mac .

[@coldskoolbeatz]

I’m trying to think if I’ve ever seen a company treat their consumers so badly, not only did they turn on them, but are praying for their downfall.

[@artistkailadsa4706]

I downloaded the Pro Tools Intro for the sole reason of it being a good selling point for new film score work, I mainly compose in Logic.

[@ChristRecords2O16]

Same here. I do majority on studio one then send 8 track to ProTools then remix and master it

[@artistkailadsa4706]

@ChristRecords2O16 clients love they still get all the features of having Pro Tools - also I would add that I would say Pro Tools is the industry standard for Engineers and Mixers but not for the average music maker these days. Just my 2cents. Thx for the reply.

[@kman915]

Mac is better than PC? How, in terms of what, music production, mixing, recording, and mastering?

[@ChristRecords2O16]

Uhh yes. Hands down

[@kman915]

@ChristRecords2O16 Explain.

[@CHARHHAUDIO]

Pro tools is great, the pricing could be better. We bought perpetual but have not botherd to pay for updates as what we have gets the job done.

[@nephewslim]

Does anybody still use MOTU Digital Performer?

[@knitetyme1]

When i first started, i couldn't AFFORD Protools. That's why I never had it. Started using Studio One, never looked back. And from what i was seeing, it was like "Where's the difference?". Studio one's workflow is effortless!!! Logic would be #2 for me and i can go on and on about how much i LOVE working in Logic.

[@kyleritter3074]

Hold up. And I’d like to clarify that I use pro tools and Cubase mainly, but also own studio one, Ableton, fl studio, Luna, reaper and logic I would consider myself a power user in most of them. With that being said, we need to get this straight. Of course you don’t Need pt. If you’re a casual user or just do it for your band etc that’s fine. But if you’re collaborating with professionals 9/10 times they’re using pt. Nothing is worse than having to go to a studio and then ask them if they have cubase or logic cause you don’t know how to use pt. Or, if someone wants to send you a session for you to track on, or mix etc. they can send you the exact session. They don’t have to worry about consolidation and exporting. It’s so friendly for sharing and collaborating. If you’re in the professional realm or want to be, you need to know pt. Can you get by without it, yes. But it will only be more difficult. Nothing is 100%, but if you’re serious about getting into the professional side of things it’s at least worth it to know how to use it somewhat proficiently.

[@t.l.5464]

I do think Avid is wild for prices and subs. I have a perpetual, but really they should give free updates to owners. You don't need it today, but it is a bridge to other professionals. Avid needs to respect their Perpetual owners. We need to keep talking about it, these platforms are powerful.

[@profilmwork]

Handheld gaming processors leave apple silicon in the dust when it comes to performance. Apple silicon shines with video editing. But so do these and processors when you use pro res. What macs are is solid

[@franklopez4028]

PT is still the edit king also let’s not forget about clip fx.

[@ashmidnyt]

I highly disagree on this. I'm 20 years with PT and I can confidently guarantee you it is not anymore.

[@Sniper_T_2x]

How you on KZbin but don’t got premium

[@KennyLauderdale]

Soooo this video is a video about an old video? 🤔

[@jae6220]

Is there any actual statistical data on this that can be analyzed? Or is this just the wishful thinking of bedroom producers stuck using cheap software? So far this argument about the industry standard coming from people not even in the industry as in they’re not making billboard 100 music and the artist they produce for aren’t on a major. It’s like me saying “Ferrari ain’t the sports car standard” and I drive an 89’ Volvo to work.

[@JimThompson-i3u]

I can remember back twenty years ago when Pro Tools had a free version that I think limited you to eight tracks. If you wanted more tracks you had to get the full version. Over the years I've tried Pro Tools several different times but never stuck with it. I've been on Logic since 2008. It does everything I need it to do and I can't see any reason to jump into the PT ecosystem, especially given the cost of entry.

[@porkbeats]

Subscribed. Good video and debates..lol

[@ralphtrotman8524]

great video, I ditched Pro tools many years ago. Question what software do you use for screen share?

[@clintmusic1]

Thanks. I’m using Ecamm Live for screen share.

[@treztracks]

Cakewalk Sonar user for 15 years 💪🏿☹️✊🏿 Pro tools old ass UI

[@fritsvanzanten3573]

Pro Tools being 'the industry standard' did not so much mean they were the best, but/for 'industry standard' (often) means that it is used in many large settings, with much hardware and people working with it. One person at home can change easily from one product to another. It might take a lot of time and frustration, but you can do it all on your own, are independent and can make all your own choices. In a large studio there are many dependencies, there are many people, many machines and interfaces and many other organizations involved. I worked in a large organization (hundreds of personnel, automations staff of dozens). Many users complained we used old stuff, not the shiny things they could use at home. But introducing new, shiny stuff requires extensive research and testing, because the whole system, allowing those hundreds of people to work (not to mention hundreds of thousands of clients depending on that), has reliability as a first requirement.

[@DeeMaxum]

I've used them back in the day and I never considered them the industry standard , as much as people tried to steer me to use them all the time in various studios.... I've used various daws for vocal recording and music production over the years ...but for now I'm sticking with studio one 7

[@_JohnnySav]

That perpetual license probably won’t let you open a newer version either 😢

[@coldskoolbeatz]

Since the beginning, Avid’s hardware has always defined the difference between “the industry standard” ProTools, and the broken consumer software they gave the same name.

[@divinesoul7]

I have Logic, Ableton Live 11, Mixbus 10 and a Pro Tools perpetual license. I bought into the “I need to have Pro Tools” hype and I think I used it to mix maybe 2 albums that I created in Maschine. Didn’t use PT for about 2 1/2 years and recently reinstalled it and tried to use it. I don’t think I’ve ever been more frustrated using a DAW in my life. I’m just gonna stick to Logic and Ableton now. I hate I wasted $500 on PT.

[@danepaulstewart8464]

Even the FREE ones- Reaper and Cakewalk have been WAY AHEAD of ProTools for years as far as features go. 🤷‍♂️ These two men REALLY sum up the whole set of both problems and solutions. 👍👍👍👍

[@theneighborguy]

Studio One is workflow/feature rich. Studios not implementing the S1 workflow must hate their jobs.

[@KreativeDevices]

🔥 You couldn't pay me to use PT

[@wakinglife7065]

I study music prod and use Ableton, logic etc then last semester they threw protools at us. I hated it -we have a licence for free and I will not open it up. It’s so frustrating and I use MPC desktop when I transport my mpc tracks over. And I still prefer MPC desktop over pro tools. Which if anyone who has used MPC desktop knows what I mean.Ableton is the one that I really gel with and logic is great. Protools does crash all the time. Where no other daw does - on apple mac m2.

[@PurpleMusicProductions]

Industry Standard for an industry that is dying fast especially as the major studios are closed or closing.

[@sonnybrix77]

THAT IS THE ONLY REASON I HAVE IT!

[@stefanalee]

So as an engineer, engineering Live events and film orchestra sessions. ProTools has its place. The studio doesn’t care about money so they’re like “whatever mate” as a Producer, it’s Logic for me there ain’t no way I’m spending that money on it and I get a great sound through my Symphony. I recon it’ll be about 5 years or so before other DAWs get up there, the Hardware is almost there but more composers are moving to other DAWs as sounds improve. ProTools will die other DAWs step up as the studio starts to say “how much?”

[@tbonebeats6429]

Yup, pro tools is the daw u really dont like but have because you might have clients who use it.

[@SimonePhoenix]

I “cut my teeth”, in a manner of speaking, on Pro Tools, when it belonged to Digidesign. Once Avid got hold of it, it was OVER. Nuff said.

[@sibagiba]

Most high profile engineers and Major studios still use ProTools so that why its “Industry Standard” whether folks like it or not. for beatmakers/producers its not used as much as Logic, FL or Ableton because of its less flexible midi capabilities. Otherwise its still Heavily used to Mix records…

[@beatprocess]

Reaper is coming

[@absolutbeatz_yt]

LOGIC PRO!

[@Realtalkyou08]

I don’t see no reason to not use FL studio for everything

[@pedrosilvaproductions]

fL isnt really good for mixing. Structuring buses and auxs is a pain. It also is in pro tools mind you

[@Realtalkyou08]

@ well you stated an issue, whats the solution whats the better DAW for it?

[@mpkgotbeatz2061]

@@Realtalkyou08ableton

[@isaacneuton10]

i love fl studio for beat making and u can use it for recording songs but it is easier to route and record for multitracks in logic and pro tools. u can do most things in fl but its not optimized for industry audio editing work flows like movies and commercials, etc

[@isamuthefox]

@@pedrosilvaproductions absolutely not, FL is very visual with mixer tracks. setting up a bus is as simple as selecting multiple tracks, right click, route to this track only. this is also the difference between a power user and someone who uses other software, try and find ways to make your workflow faster so that you can do what you do, and this goes for any software. FL is absolutely capable of doing most every normal task

[@recai_media]

Oh, one other thing, if it ain't broke, don't update. I will hold off on the Sequoia update until the Avid 'Bugs' are flushed out.

[@BigStereoVR]

I've never seen pro tools in an industrial environment, ever. Film, radio, television- all use either Pyramix or Sequoia. A lot of orchestral environments use Nuendo. They are all built for server class workstations. Massive track counts, with massive processing. Prosumer environments use slow fools. Prosumer environments aren't even 20% of the industry......

[@travellogger5080]

It's about time. 20 years late.

[@Soundninja1994]

Been fl gang since 08 fuck pro tools it's not the only daw you can record on🤷🏿‍♂️ 😂💯

[@jannybravo8429]

I got a perpetual licenses by purchasing an mbox interface

[@clintmusic1]

Ahh the mbox, a classic!

[@toolondaboards]

Same here. Mbox 2 back in 2010.

[@spatialoptic]

Same here. The only way I could Run AVID Pro Tools was to move the license to a PACE i-Lok USB-A 3rd generation. Try purchasing a 3rd gen i-Lok USB device, log into i-Lok and move license to it. I believe you should be able to use Pro Tools.

[@DJBraziel]

S.O.7 is the replacement of Protools “Industry Standard”. AND PreSonus hardware is way more extensive.

[@twinflametaurus]

I think the bigger question is why do these companies have the right to force update the software running on your computer , knowing it's only to strongarm You for more money to unlock everything again.

[@trackmusic252]

You don't have to upgrade if everything is already working.

[@nicolasstrawberry4148]

Well if you feel the need to update your OS to a version that isn’t being supported then you’re going to have to pay for an update, but if you can’t find a way to actually make money using ProTools like charging people for your recording or mixing services it pays for itself. Free updates for life like Apple does with Logic would be beautiful, but Apple can probably afford it with all the IPhones , IPads , Macs, and other things they sell, is Avid greedy? Probably….but their no law that say you have to develop and update software for free indefinitely.personally, I have no plans on updating to the latest Mac OS, not because I have a problem with updating ProTools but I’m just not interested in any of the AI features and there’s nothing that benefits audio production

[@twinflametaurus]

i dont blame you. do you like running on mac better.

[@twinflametaurus]

do you like running on mac better.

[@trackmusic252]

@@twinflametaurus I tried mac for a while then I built a custom PC. And never looked back.

[@Seeimhollywood]

3:33 i dont agree. You can build I crazy PC for a base level Mac price and make music at the same capacity. This is just an iPhone android comparison in my opinion. A new PC today is not the same as years ago. We also have to remember as we speak about pro tools not having to be a standard, FL Studio is made originally and works the best on PC.

[@GC-nd1lp]

Core Audio is better than ASIO. Most interfaces run on Mac without the need for additional drivers. Macs in general are more stable than a PC you put together. Go listen to MixbusTv. He had a really powerful PC, switched to Mac, and now says it' was one of his best 2024 studio decisions.

[@wakinglife7065]

I used to say the same thing before I switched over. I was so anti Mac. The only thing pc has over Mac is being able to upgrade ssd and ram. I used to build them but Mac’s seldom need anything. Mini Mac may cost $4k for the maxed out model but it’s also the fastest computer in the world atm. And having no viruses is also a bonus. Once you go Mac you never look back. I was wrong. Even though I thought I was right.

[@Seeimhollywood]

@wakinglife7065 I understand your point and used Mac for the past decade. I just believe that at this point the decision has become more of a preference than capability thing.

[@wakinglife7065]

@@Seeimhollywood I think logic (being one of the cheapest daws) and the creative bundle of Final Cut Pro, Main stage etc - no crashes, no viruses, and the ability to transfer files via airdrop, among a few points that functionally it seems very music friendly - like when your working with people that you can air drop files - or even the audio and midi app that route audio everywhere etc. due to the cost of Mac and the constant need to upgrade the whole unit instead of just upgrading parts is still one thing that grinds my gears and the lack of being able to add pcie cards aside from breakout boxes or Mac Pro which is about $25k - it’s not really accessible for most of us. Especially when you’re using universal audio plugins which i had to get a satellite instead of a pcie card that just adds more desk clutter and precious thunderbolt ports. These things I 100% agree with you. PC will always have this over Mac. It was great being able to cheaply add hard drives, expandable cards, etc and having capacity to store so much on one machine - the cost of hardrive space on a Mac is small and expensive and i have on MacBook Pro (2Tb) completely full and a mini (4tb) one TB left and so many projects that I have to organize which if o had a pc this would all be managed one an internal SSD. I have just got a ssd dock but again more desk clutter and it malfunctioned and I had to send it back. So i still haven figured out proper project management - like a NAS or something as pre Mac I never needed to- because I always had a pc that had back up files internally. So in a long winded post - there is pros and cons - on both sides. There is some functionality that is only accessible via Mac and vice versa. However you can do it with Mac but it’s going to be very expensive. A breakout box alone costs as much as a fairly high end pc - with only one or two pcie slots!

[@Seeimhollywood]

@@wakinglife7065 I understand your perspective and agree with a lot of your points. You're definitely right in a lot of the info that you mentioned.

[@RmonTheNewAge]

Logic Pro gang gang!

[@cd123atd4e]

Reaper jack

[@Jvhkf207]

Pro tools for mixing is king.👑 every few years the pro tools is dead conversation is getting old, I’m still for the pro tools killer daw, I love the ease of logic and ableton but I always end up back in pro tools, mixes come out out better.

[@BrownPanda442]

If you used an MPC, ableton is where you need to be

[@MULOVOLUM]

Everyone should be using Studio One, if thats too much, use Ableton

[@beatsby81]

I tried it out a while back. I really liked it! My sessions tend to use a lot virtual instruments. I stopped using it becasue it was pretty clear that the cpu optimization was like 10x worse than any other DAW (except maybe reason?). So unfortunately I had to stop using it even though it was set up very nicely imo. Has the CPU performance gotten better? I remember going back to the PreSonus forums a couple years ago and it was still pretty unclear whether they had fixed the multi core utilization so I have just never bothered to look at it again

[@vincentdepierro2034]

Ok so, You own the perpetual version that you bought at the time, you don't get new stuff perpetually.... I don't automatically get the newest model year car because I bought that same model car 5 years ago..... Updates to a version should be included, but a new version is different than an update to an existing version. Avid should be clearer about that distinction, but still we can't abuse the word perpetual for our own benefit, in either direction.

[@j_evans2818]

I’m a Logic Pro user all the way, but I will say I think that sonically, there is a difference in Pro Tools that I like.

[@ovadoseod]

No major recording studio with a large format console is running logic, reaper, Cubase or Luna or Fl studio, or studio one. The major recording facilities and post production studios dictate what industry standard is not the engineers/producers who mostly mix or produce from home or smaller facilities even the ones with major credits. It’s about function not necessarily features. Apples changes to chips and OS require these type of updates to stay on pace with the changes which wasn’t a problem when they weren’t constantly changing it up every year with a new chip

[@charleeparkerxo]

Let’s talk about how a lot of major studios are shutting down though. 2k25 is way different than even 2020! It’s wayyyyyyyyyy too many ways to get the job done

[@ovadoseod]

@@charleeparkerxo sure let’s talk about!! Let’s also talk about a lot of car manufacturers and a lot retail stores and restaurant chains shutting down as well!!! Studios are shutting down because the Music industry and what’s promoted! With pop and hip hop being the leading genres a lot of that can be scaled down to smaller studios because not much is needed to produce that! Technology is the reason not a particular DAW. In the same breath other genres of music are still thriving like, rock country, folk blues, indie, gospel, orchestras and not to mention film. It’s not about features it’s about function I worked as assistant engineer a couple yrs ago in a major studio in Nc which is still thriving. At that time they had 2 rooms 1)with a control and live running with console and one with hardware and a computer. Both rooms stay busy all day! And the studio has added more rooms with consoles. What I saw was in the large room most producer came In And they were using logic to program songs or demo backing tracks. The point is producers and engineers operate off 2 different foundations. Producers/ beatmakers use what helps them be creative engineers use what helps them be productive with editing routing, recording mixing etc which is protools when your doing it for 10hrs a day 6-7 days a week

[@charleeparkerxo]

@ yes but I agree with your ending statement. My point is that the new generation is bridging the gap between beatmaking/pre-production and mixing. We’re in a different age now. The same rules don’t apply as they did 10-20 years ago.

[@ovadoseod]

I agree, they are bridging the gap in some cases. But just being honest hip hop never needed a large studio or track counts just technology. And as pop moves further away from hybrid between live and digital to mostly digital it doesn’t need a big studio either. Mixing and production don’t necessarily need large studios if it’s digital based. But your not putting 48 to 96 channels of external preamps,eqs/compressors in your home studio that can record those 148 tracks your going to mix for that pop record!! No. The recording facility is still needed and a program that can handle all the functions necessary to get that done is protools! Most major studios don’t update their computers or software ever 1-2 years that more so the person operating from home or soley mixing who just want the new features

[@charleeparkerxo]

@ that applies when the artist has the required budget! Yes I agree! Beyoncé is gonna need that. Or maybe Paramore? Or maybe….. The kid at home with the rode NTA Or TLM 103, Scarlett and Logic Pro figured it out? Just a thought. I love a good debate and I respect your experience as you bring up very valid points! I’ll leave you with this thought. Where is music headed? Who among us will be around to witness its revolution?

[@StaticLabzAgency-ob2ep]

There’s no way Mac is better than PC . Americans are just used to the Apple ecosystem

[@gerrysteven5567]

Macs last much longer than PCs and require less maintenance

[@Soundninja1994]

Mac is ass omm 😂💯

[@gerrysteven5567]

@@Soundninja1994 Every mac I had lasted me over 10 years and I have made millions with them

[@nicolasstrawberry4148]

Honestly , at one point I would say it’s just about personal preference, which at the end of the day it still is, but it harder to say it now since Apple started making Apple silicon Macs, it’s really hard to argue with the performance of M series Macs, at least right now. I have an M3 Max MacBook Pro with 64 gbs of ram , 16 cpu and 40 gpu cores and am floored by the performance, and not just by the number of tracks and plugins I can run, but how low I can set the buffer size and still never hear the fans kick in. I used to hate hearing the fans so much, I’ve never heard them turn on even with hundreds of tracks and plugins running, it really is amazing tbh, it was a game changer, this is the most powerful Mac I’ve ever owned by a LOT.

[@bjrobertson5683]

PC owners won't be able to comprehend this. I have an M1 MacBook Pro and it's far superior than any PC I've ever had. And will last much longer. ​@@nicolasstrawberry4148

[@ProGaming-kb9io]

3:23 I got the Mac 2023, was my first mac ever, and while I was impressed, I still say PC is better :D But I agree that the apple ecosystem is unbeatable, it is incredible how your iPhone is in sync with your Mac at all times lol

[@Doty6String]

for engineering pro tools is still the industry standard. meaning when I'm in pro tools I get paid by the hour..I create music in cubase though.

[@isupplyaudio]

I've followed Barry Johns for a long time, and his insights have been incredibly helpful in my musical journey. Clint, I've also followed your work and even purchased your course for TV/Film. Now, here’s my honest take. I completely understand the points both you and Barry have made, but if I’m being transparent, this video-and others like it-come across as somewhat counterproductive. Respectfully, it feels like watching people I admire (you and Barry) lament over a past relationship-one you no longer want but still feel compelled to explain why it didn’t work out. These kinds of videos don’t impact Avid in any meaningful way. If anything, they inadvertently serve as free promotion. Let’s be real: Avid doesn’t care. Until the creative community as a whole takes tangible steps to demonstrate that we are what makes them relevant-not just the traditional studio and post-production houses they’ve been catering to for years-nothing will change. Otherwise, it feels like we’re just shouting into the void. I initially came to your channel (and Barry’s) for the valuable information you both share about music production, and I’ve greatly appreciated it. But I believe it’s time to move on from giving Avid this much air time. What has Avid given any of us for free? Producers like iLLFactor, Karra, Reid Stefan, and others I follow for production tips all know about Pro Tools. Some still use it occasionally, but they also work with DAWs like Ableton, Studio One, and Logic. You know what they’re not doing (at least publicly)? Dwelling on their dissatisfaction with a DAW they no longer use. If you love Logic, focus on showing us how great it is! Barry can keep us updated on Cubase and everything exciting happening in his creative world. At the end of the day, that’s why most of us are tuning in-to learn and be inspired. For full transparency, I use Ableton for production and Pro Tools for recording and post-production. I understand the struggles with Avid, but the better approach is to make the necessary changes, if needed, and stay focused on what truly matters-being creative. If enough people follow suit and Avid decides to adapt (like Waves did), then great! I’ll continue following your channels and enjoying the content you create. Wishing you both an amazing 2025! God bless. @isupplyaudio

[@puls3illegalmusic]

Shoutout Reaper, the king of DAWs, the king of flexibility and customization 🤌🔥

[@lbrtscutz1050]

Pro Tools needs to think...."Logic"al about it...I mean...what is there "Reason"...someone said it...."Studio w"One"....."Fruity Loops" is even a sweet deal...

[@SteeleMusic574]

The add😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@marksaxon_plays]

I'm all in on Logic Pro and I hope Apple keeps it non-subscription but you never know. I have also used Reaper and if I had to, I could go that route too. Point is, there are so many options out there and there isn't the "ultimate" DAW. Too many genres of music and workflows to determine the "one size fits all" solution. Do what works for you. Period.

[@RussArteaga]

PT is still the goat wrt mixing and tracking. Every legit studio I know in the Bay Area use PT. We all also use Ableton and logic and some use Reaper and others for different reason. But every pro engineer I know use PT in their commercial studio. Btw this guy said UA and Apple were done a few years ago. 😂

[@3mstudiospalmdesert]

Pro-Tools may suck, but that doesn't mean that saying that it isn't the industry standard changes the fact that it is in fact the industry standard, the industries being major label productiona and film and tv production. You may prefer not to use pro-tools, but you don't get to decide what is industry standard and what is not. The industry decides that.

[@jimp.7286]

If mostly audio; reaper! Stable like a rock. Runs on most anything. No software bloat with instruments/plugs you'll never use. Help along with free plugs and/or scripts is beyond massive. Use default settings and it's easy to use. I was off and running in about fifteen minutes first time. Create a new track. Tell it where to save and hit record. Or customize it to your liking. Cheers.

[@bboymac84]

We need him at NAMM!!

[@clintmusic1]

Right?!

[@Hughsteph]

Logic and Luna

[@cd123atd4e]

Reaper reaper reaper