Acolyte Season 1: It All Leads To Plagueis | Star Wars Theory

Join us as we dive into The Acolyte Season 1 with our latest theory video on how pretty much all of the clues lead to Qimir being the Sith lord Darth Plagueis in The Acolyte. We will also dissect the latest twists and turns, uncover hidden references and speculate on what's next.
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[@SnookisInfant-gt8xu]

Plagueis is starting to feel like Mephisto at this point

[@bkh8528]

Hahaha I see what you’re doing there…….

[@darthlopez9871]

Comment of the year lol 😮

[@jamariojackson4289]

Yep same, as a fellow nerd I must admit, the day Plaguies and Mephisto both show up… literally the world is going to be talking about it. Two of the biggest big bads from the two most popular franchises ever. I don’t think the internet will reach that level of hype until or after GTA6 (depending on either Plaguies or Mephisto finally shows up) lmao.

[@swgraphics9059]

"The Mephistolyte!"

[@Quandryification]

😂😂😂💯

[@IntenseYubNub]

I think the more likely scenario is Qimir is a previous apprentice to Plagueis and we will see Plagueis near the end of this.

[@LeroySinclair69]

Plagueis would never reveal himself to the Jedi in such a way.

[@PedroSofrimento-r6u]

Agree, he is too weak and reckless to be Plaguies. I hope this theory is wrong

[@theshocktasticshow]

But we have disney at the helm so weakness is a thing

[@SheikT86]

Plagueis and tenebrous are not human.

[@teknikairaoulolgandessabek4102]

James Luceno's Plagueis novel is still one of the very best Star Wars books ever written. I hope they don't change all of it in Canon.

[@maiaspen307]

This!!!!

[@jim9301]

I could settle for some minor changes but yeah, if they retcon that book I'll be fuming. One of the best pieces of work outside of the original movies in my opinion.

[@SheikT86]

@@teknikairaoulolgandessabek4102 Bane Trilogy is actually the best Star Wars novels written. James Luceno is the best Star Wars writer of all time.

[@art08474]

They should really make that novel into a live action. That would be so intriguing!

[@I_Dont_Like_Sand]

Plagueis is going to be David Harewoods “ small role “ at the end.

[@adamsifford6228]

Not plagues tenebris

[@I_Dont_Like_Sand]

@@adamsifford6228 Plagueis betrayed and killed Darth Tenebrous on Bal'demnic. It’s more likely Qimir is Plagueis’s apprentice that he had prior to Sidious.

[@Gaverny]

Yeah maybe! Everyone is forgetting about that actor still hasnt shown up on screen, good point 👍🏻

[@johnfodo4129]

​​@@I_Dont_Like_Sand what I was thinking also as Im Re - reading Darth Plaguies 🤔

[@TFC.C]

Also don’t forget Plagueis gets the same wound on his back as qmir when he killed Darth ten.

[@DaNewWaveLee]

4:41 they aren’t mysterious. They are just guards. You see them clearly when the Jedi leave they are standing in front.

[@jasenbertrand]

I think he could be Ramage, Tenebrous's master and follows the Plageus book, or Imri, Vernestra's padawan. She wasn't a happy accident with the role she's playing

[@bradboss0378]

JSW is my new favorite stars wars content creator. It is cool being here before he blows up!

[@CATDRL2]

Your well-scripted and edited videos are very well done. I've recently subscribed and started watching your channel for a couple of weeks. I enjoy your pacing and fact-based analysis. I hope your subscription count jumps to the levels you're looking for. Best, Tony.

[@apbagx]

I like this theory a lot. Maybe Qimir is darth venamis. He was shoved away from the Jedi and the sith and started his own thing- the knights of ren

[@zerolegacy7821]

This is probably the best theory in my opinion. The Plagueis thing just doesn’t make sense. Qimir is not Hego Damask, magistrate of the Intergalactic Banking Clan and Hego Damask is Plageuis. Plageuis was able to do what he did mostly because of the Hego Damask persona. Banking Guild are all the Muun race. There would have to be a LOT of ret cons to make Qimir Plagueis.

[@jimmyramos1989]

@@zerolegacy7821I loved the book. One of the best over written for Star Wars. But remember, that’s legends. All we know in canon is that he was a Sith, his name was Darth Plaguies the wise, and he could cheat death. That’s it.

[@jamariojackson4289]

@@jimmyramos1989True that but Plagueis, like Thrawn is a fan loved character… I think they know better then to switch up Plagueis too much. But ultimately we shall see in about a week or so.

[@jimmyramos1989]

@@jamariojackson4289 true. I mean, he’s more of an Uber fan favorite I would argue. Most average movie goers haven’t read Darth Plaguies. But you’re right, they introduced Thrawn with some Minor changes…I don’t see any reason why they can keep Plaguies the same with some changes as well.

[@jamariojackson4289]

@@jimmyramos1989 I’m sure the basic stuff like his species, his surname, his “career”, and things like that won’t be touched at all… much like they did with Thrawn, but people has got to understand that every little minute detail won’t be carried over. I’m fine with Plagueis returning as long as his core lore isn’t touched (which I doubt it will be tbh).

[@bkh8528]

I believe the space hamster is a Sith Lord…… And from what I’ve seen on screen so far he obviously uses Form VII made famous by Darth Maul………..

[@art08474]

Darth Basil aka Darth Cricetinae !!!!

[@Hotteststewpot]

That’s not the only image we have ren, if you read the comic, there’s a lot of panels with ren in it, even with his helmet off, he has a grey haired magneto look going on. This isn’t to say that qimir isn’t inspired by that characters image.

[@tome75]

I think he’s going to be the first Ren. The mask reminded me of Kylo Ren and Ren’s mask has no eyes.

[@SciaticaDrums]

Great video. No bias, just the facts and theory.

[@jdiperla]

So here are my thoughts on this... Qimir is Darth Venomis. I believe Qimir was Vernestra's apprentice. Vernestra tried to kill Qimir for whatever reason and it did not work out. I believe Vernestra is going to be Darth Tenebrous. As such, I think she found Plaguies and thought he was a better apprentice than Venomis. So she tries to kill him. I think that is part of the reason why she lays low on Coruscant. Next, I don't think Mae, Osha, Qimir, Vernestra are the Acolyte. I believe there will be 2 Acolytes by the end of the series serving different purposes. I will explain. I think Qimir intentionally withheld killing Mae. I think he intends to use their Force Dyad Power to make himself younger, thereby attempting to kill both of the twins. However, I believe Mae will try and redeem herself and sacrifice herself to prevent this from happening so that Osha is not killed in the process. I strongly believe that Osha will kill Qimir at this point. Next, after hearing from Qimir his take on whatever Sol did, Osha will turn against him. I think Vernestra and her team will also turn against Sol and possibly have him expelled or on the run as a fugitive. When all is said and done, Vernestra will be killed. Later on, Osha, having lost her sister and feeling betrayed by Qimir, Sol and the Jedi will leave and form the Knights of Ren. Similarly... I think that Senator mentioned in Episode 6 will be David Harewood who will turn out to be playing Darth Plagues, who I also tend to believe was working with Vernestra as her apprentice. With her dead, he now is the new Sith Lord. With Sol on the outs and clearly having dark side tendency's... I believe Plagues will recruit Sol as his new Dark Side apprentice, making Sol the Titular Acolyte all along.

[@wilsonbourgeois6739]

I hope he is plagueis and we get to see tenebrous that would be awesome.

[@gapperx9068]

Why? It wouldnt be Tenebrous. Since he also wasnt human like Plagueus.

[@mosfet74]

What if the witch compound collapsed in flames because of a mine collapse underneath the structure. Yet another callback to the Darth Plagueis book. I'm sure the Sith will be on Brendock in the flashback episode coming up on tuesday, in some form or fashion.

[@philkennedy8184]

Qimir was Vanestras old parawan and Qimir will use his full power to transform into plagues (like palp in ROTS) by the end of…. I hope

[@carlosandres7006]

Why you want him deformed?

[@VynylFantasy]

No. No. Wrong. Wrong. He never made it to the rank of parawan. He was a tiger scout, then a padawan, and then a webloes for 3 years before dropping out.

[@VynylFantasy]

And it’s never gonna happen. You will never see Plaguies In Disney Star Wars. Have you not figured out yet that Disney likes to invent its own characters? They don’t like using stuff from the EU, and even though Plagueis isn’t technically EU, when have you ever seen him depicted as an Asian man?

[@jeffjordan1242]

I'm enjoying your channel. I don't sense the "Star Wars hate" that I find on others. I personally watch Star Wars shows and movies to be entertained. And I like this show. Not as much as Andor or The Mandalorian, but it's pretty good.

[@JustStarWars]

Thanks Jeff appreciate the comment 😀👍

[@michaeldownes-pg5ff]

QIMIR is Darth Revan: hes very old, he was once a jedi, venestra was his apprentice not his master and betrayed him hence the purple lightsabre and scar, revan is neither jedi or sith hence the sith are yet to appear. The knights of Ren/Revan are acolytes to revans teachings.

[@deloceanophoto]

I know that the Darth Plagueis novel is legends and up for reinterpretation, but I don’t think they will change it so much as to make Plagueis a human. It’s more likely that Qimir is the apprentice of either Plagueis or an alternate apprentice of Tenebrous. They could change Venamis, a minor character, to being human.

[@Camelsarse]

The Sith lord will be stunning and brave! So stunning, and so bloody brave.

[@pckrichards7980]

I think it’s possible for it to go either way. As long as it makes sense for the canon, that’s what matters

[@Hdub8526]

Saw a theory that Qimir is Imri, the former padawan of Venestra which I thought the show had basically confirmed he was her padawan just not that he’s Imri who becomes Darth Venamis I believe. Who becomes Darth plagiarisms master

[@darthrizzy3385]

Darth Venomis is the secret apprentice of tenebrous…not Darth Plagueis. Darth Venomis is also a Bith not a human.

[@sergeyontheroad]

Really hope this not the case. This CANNOT BE Darth Plaguis

[@jmac2050]

Qimir is a space vampire that consume his acolyte, when they're ripe.. and, Sol is the father of twins , donate some of his midichlorian to the Space Witches.

[@AlghostUnit]

I think Qimir know how to transfer his spirit from a body to another. He seems to have lived longer than what his body looks like and if he is indeed Pleigis maybe this could explain his actual body which could change for the other specie that he have in the other stories?

[@steveowen3155]

It's best to have Plagueis be human. Otherwise, we'll be blowing too much of the budget on FX.

[@zerolegacy7821]

Nah, people keep forgetting that Plagueis was also Hego Damaks, the Muun magistrate of the Banking Guild. They would have to rent con a LOT to make Qimir him.

[@DaNewWaveLee]

I think we need a banker storyline in Star Wars. I’m kind of tired of the politics in government.

[@jimmyramos1989]

@@zerolegacy7821while a wonderful book. that was legends. It’s fair game at this point what he is.

[@kamotrof]

Yeah, what else could we spend $180M on…

[@zerolegacy7821]

@@jimmyramos1989 Look... I am aware of that but if they do not follow that book in some way to establish Plagueis then they will have to create a COMPLETELY new back story for him and that's too much! Might as well just make a new character all together, why does Disney keep changing what the fan base believes. Just make NEW CHARACTERS. All these stories rely on the other stories. It's like taking a Jenga piece from the bottom of the stack that then destabilizes the whole stack. If NONE of legends is going to come to pass then why care at all about it connecting to TPM? Might as well tell a WHOLE new story. Why bother with Venestra, or Boba Fett or Ahsoka. All this crap does is just make the whole damn thing murky and blurry and suck and THAT'S why so many people hate the crap Disney is putting out. It's not a minority of fans... it's the majority who are not liking this and Disney should take that into consideration... but they won't.. cause they suck.

[@darrylcatay2295]

Who could be the "Siff" Lord ? Love the channel !

[@TrainerCTZ]

2:30 How does anyone fit in that ship?

[@UnDark1]

If Qimir is Plaguies, that would be biggest shame. I probably would lose interest in Star Wars going forward.

[@ohimarc9983]

Bye 😂

[@UnDark1]

@@ohimarc9983😔

[@SeriouslyStarWars]

Interesting theory and it’s one I can get behind. And it would go with my theory that David Harewood who joined the cast of The Acolyte back in April to play a “small role” could be Darth Tenebrous and would go along with this theory. A small role like a last minute reveal at the end of episode 8?

[@mr.weezely4586]

This show has been on the nose with its supposed secrets. Given the scars on Qimir's back and that Venestra wielding a whip saber. Add to that how in an earlier episode she immediately knew Mae's fighting style came from a jedi. One can assume Oimir was at one point a Palawan or apprentice to Venestra.

[@NorthernNomad93]

I believe the power of two actually refers to the power of the two sisters. Remember they were witches at one point and both trained in the force so this could have something something to do with ritual, stealing their life and force essence to grow stronger, or even possibly to recruit them both as his apprentices.

[@JustStarWars]

Yeah I see that, it also plays into the force dyad theory too. With both twins possibly becoming Acolyte’s perhaps they’ll be unknowingly competing against one another to fulfil the role of Sith apprentice which would then also tie it into the rule of two as well 🤔

[@NorthernNomad93]

@@JustStarWars yes I could very much see that being a choice they have to make at some point.

[@RAJNOVA784]

It can be a possibility that a sith lord could be hidden among the jedi.

[@Hdub8526]

I also think it might be leading toward the realization the twins are strongest together and they become a Sith Duo and the Jedi keep it secret because of all the flaws they’d have to admit to that led to this.

[@Sheikah86]

I think this would give the show some merit - maybe even gravity in the canonical universe. Right now, it just seems like an odd drama with an evil twin. This twist would be very cool indeed!

[@vdubsvideos4619]

He can be Venemis or Tenebris, but not Plaugeius (i’m sure I spelled those wrong, but you get the point). The issue is money. As a Munn Hugo Damask acquired enough wealth to fund the clone army.

[@ZENAphelion]

Him being Ren makes sense he dresses almost exactly like the comic Ren and the First knight of Ren is force sensitive

[@gizmochalie1046]

What about the Darth plegus novel

[@BobaFett5474]

Don’t pull stuff from legends if you are going to change things from legends. Either tell the story or create your own.

[@foreverfendi1037]

Oh god, this guy😅

[@youknow9092]

Why?

[@gapperx9068]

Exactly

[@TFC.C]

Yes. I agree with you so much!!

[@art08474]

Darth Basil, Lord of The Cedar Chips

[@Gaverny]

Good stuff mate 👍🏻 thanks for the Acolyte content

[@codyfrwl8122]

The planet is a clue definitely. Qimir could be the secret second apprentice to tenabrus.

[@johngroom669]

Maybe when Kimir says he wants the power of two he’s not actually including himself, maybe he wants both Mae and Oshar, he wants the power of the twins

[@mwg500]

I think Qimir is Set Harth. A failed Jedi padawan turned failed Sith apprentice who still managed to steal some Sith secrets and survive a long time, which in current canon could make him the first Knight of Ren.

[@maxbarber2341]

Wasn't Venestra a path finder or whatever its called where you follow the will of the force rather then the jedi council. Maybe that's when Qimir was her apprentice and they both were slowly turning to the dark then had a fight that's when he got his scar and she returned to the Jedi?

[@arunca190]

I really like your content. It’s hard to watch though with your sound levels. You are really loud but your clips are so low. Hoping you can improve that. Good stuff!

[@jaxpavan2123]

I’ll place a spoiler warning According to the leaks on Reddit - there will be two cameos in the finale and like Mundi, the time period has been changed slightly. Apparently the species hasn’t been changed, just how the species looks.

[@MrUSO36]

I think his former master is Vanestra the scars are from a whip light saber.

[@RyanHunter723]

Wnough of the Plagueis shite. It is Tenebrus master who opened a dark side crack in the force.

[@josueproductions6557]

Hes. Definitely not plagueis, he always wants an ACOLYTE which is way of saying "help me kill my master" plus Headlame said there would be 2. Also David is cast to be in the show and we havent seen him uet, he plays a "small roll" but at the same time its a big roll. Id be disappointed if this isnt the case.

[@ErikGorshoff]

I hope he’s Plagueis. It would make the show that much more interesting.

[@BigRonnieTrucking]

I think plaguies’s species is still canon. But they can always change it. I do think it probably should be Tenebras though. Earlier in the timeline, so just feels a little bit more like right to me. But I’m good with either it either way if one shows up, which I think one will. IDK if plaguies is around yet?

[@37skeet]

They should just keep him as the Muun. That is why people became a fan of the book. Please don’t try to fix what is not broken. I’m not a hyper fan and I will give benefit of the doubt, but when they actively try to change cannon and character features, that’s when I take a little bit of issue. Lucas sold to the wrong people. He should have let different people buy licenses and make/write more stories from people who have read the and understand the content

[@tompearce5418]

Whatever he is, Qimir is a far superior fighter than Darth Maul and slaughtered more Jedi in a single face-to-face encounter than Sidious.

[@austindeivert1198]

I wouldn't say he is far superior to maul alot of the jedi qmir fought were subpar like yord or a padawan like jecki and the other tools ge killed maul faced qui gon one of the most renowned swordsman of the order at the time and obi wan one of the best padawans a master could ask for master sol was the only true threat to qmir and managed to beat him twice getting the advantage over qmir after he killed all those jedi and in the series finale again he beat him in single combat so I wouldn't call him superior to maul at least not with a saber

[@NPCNugget_1]

My theory is that Qimir is Tenebrous’s master as the timeline’s could sync up. Tenebrous started training Plagueis in 99 BBY the show takes place around 132 BBY I think Ocea will dies and Qimir will then train Tenebrous, this would make the timeline match up.

[@BourbonboxerJ]

If he turns out to be Plagueis, then how does Ki Adi Mundi keep it from the council…and then it makes his line in the Phantom Menace a complete lie, since he would have known about Plagueis

[@jrmizerak8636]

Except he doesn’t know it’s plagues. He was only there for the first little meeting before they sent anyone to Khofst

[@gapperx9068]

Atleast someone here has sense.

[@Kelticfury]

Not so sure about the Sith lord part. He said "A jedi like you might call me a sith".

[@zerolegacy7821]

But he is a Sith, red blade, scars, black robes, dark side use, desire to kill Jedi… that’s the definition is Sith or at least Sith training. Sith bleed crystals, it’s how you get a red blade. That’s a Sith skill. He can say whatever he wants but I am positive the Jedi would see a Sith here.

[@DaNewWaveLee]

@@zerolegacy7821inquisitors have those attributes and they were not Sith. Same with Asajj.

[@Kelticfury]

But he is a jedi, light saber, robes, force use... Just because you were something once doesn't mean you are that thing for eternity.

[@jimmyramos1989]

@@zerolegacy7821there’s already a few red lightsaber wielding people in the new canon my dude. Dude from Jedi Survivor wasn’t assumed to be a Sith, but he had a red lightsaber. What about Tarron Malicos? What about Baylon Skool-orange, but still bled. Just because he has a red lightsaber, doesn’t mean he’s a Sith. According to them, the Sith have been extinct for centuries. It’s like if a Roman general appeared out of nowhere. Would we assume it Ceaser? Or would we assume he’s a cosplayer who lost and needs directions to Comic Con? I’d go with the later.

[@zerolegacy7821]

@@jimmyramos1989 No "my dude" (such an obnoxious way to address someone), you're missing my point. What I'm saying is that the JEDI should assume it's a Sith due to the red saber. There is no confirmation or even speculation that Baylon Skool bled his blade so not sure what you're talking about there. One of the primary definitions of a Sith in the present canon IS A RED LIGHT SABER. The JEDI would of assumed Sith, right or wrong, it's what they would of assumed. I'm not talking about nothing else but that. Not Caesar, romans, etc... I'm talking about Star Wars so maybe before you try to return another arrogant and unchecked response to me... do some damn research.

[@redhood5473]

I hope he isnt darth Plagueis... if he is then it just shows that disney cbf even with a 180mil budget to create/cgi his actual species (which is muun) like its just laziness at this point if qimir turns out to be the legendary sith lord Plagueis. Im hoping he's just one of his acolytes and plagueis rocks up to just destroy him in an instant. For revealing the darkside to the jedi. Lol

[@yungKaution100]

I've learned when someone says " All roads lead to..." I know they definitely don't lol

[@yonitree]

Ini wonder.... If kymer is General Grievous since he has long life that can take him into clone wars and Grievous killed another padewan in same manner as in this series.

[@GS1170]

Changing Plagueis" species and his entire backstory in order to hide is identity from us is kind of cheesy to me. I hope that isn't the case. It would be cool if he is a new character with a new background etc...

[@Brofessorben1017]

They have a vested interest in supporting the plots (lack therof) of the Sequel Trilogy. Theyre gonna lean towards the Knights of Ren more than likely I'd bet. Even so, that wouldnt necessarily conflict with Plagueis's doings as of yet.

[@Al_capachino]

Plaguies was so wise and powerful Sidious could not even take him head on, he waited for him to be drunk off guard…so no to this theory

[@willloveless9327]

Lets get a baby palps!

[@letstaljbga4049]

Lazerwhip scar on back and who got a Lazerwhip in the show??? Mhhh was it Plagues?? No it was a Jedi Master

[@juliandarch9278]

I do not believe that a master wouldn't recognise that she wasn't her twin. Jedi sense both dark and light in everyone unless that's been binned as well as the rest of the lore

[@johnanderson8635]

I bet mog becomes palpatine

[@panzerpope3093]

You are grasping at straws man plaugos hated the rule of two

[@brianwarnerarts]

Very true

[@alittlewasted3869]

I think the power of 2 is going to be different than the rule of 2. It will be some sort of witch spell for some witchy/sithy reasons.

[@marquexceed]

he isnt plagueis, one of the soul reasons plagueis was succesful was cause he was banking clan. qimir is darth venamis

[@yophotodude7693]

The "Power of Two" isn't necessarily the "Rule of Two" of the Sith, but it could be the force dyad of the twins or Kylo/Rey and he need the power of the two.

[@cherrydoctorpepper7]

I think Qimir is Darth Plageuis and the green alien woman could be his Sith master that he could kill at the end of the show to become a true Sith Master. Osha will probably help him kill the green woman and Sol.

[@tomnolan4146]

I wish this show had a proper plot, a believable narrative with logic, and not so many ridiculous contradictions. The initial idea could have been turned into a good show, if it had been written with a story in mind and had been written by decent scriptwriters/showrunners. What we have instead is virtually unwatchable nonsense.

[@marquesedillinger131]

I did notice the scene in the apothecary was kind of suggested sith-alchemy.

[@gamma.mp6]

I just really hope there is a legends character involved i really do

[@anthonyprice434]

Plaqueis' species is not canon. From a practical stand point, it's much easier for him to be a human, as less money is spent on FX.

[@3313-c2j]

DARTH Tenebrous trained plagues end Drath venamis;, when plagues killed Tenebrous , he also killed venamis then brought back to life killed venamis and brought back to life over and over

[@gapperx9068]

Exactly but never doubt the hubris of Disney and their ability to ruin Star Wars further.

[@JADub87]

I really don't care to see Darth Tenebrous or Venomous. I just want to see Plagueis. I really wanted Snoke to be Darth Plagueis "The Wise". In my head, he was working on something bigger than Jedi & Sith & & The Empire, so he faked his death so he could work on something much darker. In my mind, Palps thought he killed his master, but didn't because he's extremely wise. I never bought the fact that Sidious got him drunk & knocked him off...that doesn't sound very wise to me. 🤷🏾‍♂️💯

[@khackett7]

If it’s garbage does it matter?

[@johnfodo4129]

Is the unknown planet Baldemnic??? Also Qimir is wearing the helmet and fighting basically blind and just relying on the force! He seems really powerful not to be a Sith Lord!

[@JustStarWars]

I think it is! Why else would they not reveal its name 🤔? Also I agree, we’ve seen him take down more Jedi at once than Palpatine…

[@pascal0254]

Plagueis and Tenebrous are in the canon and Plaugeis is too young to be a Sith

[@mosfet74]

The names are in canon, but nearly all of their backstories are up for grabs at this point.

[@pascal0254]

@@mosfet74 but in canon we know plagueis is a Muun and in legends we know that plaugeis sith training began in 130 bby (two years after the acolyte) I think that Qimir is the first apprentice from Tenebrous and he has Quimir banished for something (maybe he is to weak or something

[@Johan-Driger]

I really hope they don’t introduce a character as big as Plagueis ind this sht show🙏😓

[@danielwells5895]

Knowing stars wars. We might not find out for yrs down the road

[@viriatus7181]

I don't think he's a sith from the Bane Line. I'm sure every so often a fallen Jedi or failed apprentice became a threat in the thousand years that went by. Sure, you can call a dark jedi a Sith, but it doesn't have to mean it would be a member of the Sith Lord duo.

[@Odell153]

The power of Disney to confuse all of you😂😂😂

[@tysmith4705]

How could it be plaguis? It would make more sense along the timeline that plaguis would just be getting born. Tenebrous would have had an apprentice even then while getting plaguis to be born

[@daymeongartrell4809]

Whatever man... I'm watching.

[@gclcreativedesigner2611]

He’s Darth Watryu.

[@gamerzrule023]

correct

[@MaTua40]

nice video. thank you

[@Tandy683]

Qimir ren

[@linkpuppyandzeldakitty]

If this is plagues I believe they are setting him up to be different then in legends and as far as I know tenebrous isn't canon and plagues could turn out to just be a jedi turned sith , and to tie it into my personal theory his mask could be lord momin and he may have taught him hence why he wants an acolyte is cuz the only person who sees his side is a literal force spirit that inhabits a helmet

[@MatthewSmith-mz7zo]

Tenebrous was canon. The ship maul had in the phantom menace he built

[@thehalfricanguy]

I'm not sure all roads lead to Darth Plagueis.

[@zerolegacy7821]

I agree, I’m not seeing Plagueis here unless they do some more ret cons.

[@Brofessorben1017]

Same.

[@thehalfricanguy]

@@zerolegacy7821 It’s not really retconning, though. Legends stories don't technically exist in canon. All we know of him canonically is what Palps said in the prequels. I still don't think he’ll be Plaguies, though. He's probably a failed Sith apprentice or the first Knight of Ren.

[@zerolegacy7821]

@@thehalfricanguy Legends stories exist in every fan that loves Star Wars and Disney is totally missing an opportunity to literally PRINT money by just trying to stay close to legends not to mention it would be WAY easier for them to do that since they already would have the stories and the established fan base behind it. They are honestly shooting themselves in the foot not trying to bring legends to the screen. I agree that they don't technically exist but they simply should and it was a huge mistake on there part to kill them.

[@thehalfricanguy]

@@zerolegacy7821 We mostly agree on that. I get why they would want to wipe it and start over. Legends did have quite a few great stories. It also had some really bad stories. If Disney actually had a plan for the franchise before wiping Legends. They could have nailed it, and we wouldn't care. That’s not what happened, though.

[@Fuzzmo147]

Nah, Manny is soooO much easier on the eye 😂

[@hosseinnemati1075]

the problem is acording to legends the pleguis isnt born yet

[@drewcalhoun381]

i don't think it's plagueis at all. the timeline and the species don't line up.