The amount of effort put into all your videos is hard to match, thanks for allways raising the bar for tool-related content!
@Kevinrichardsonministries9 ай бұрын
Agreed... I've always enjoyed and learned from his/their videos. I wish I would get notices like I've subscribed for. Just reset my notification setting to "ALL" yet again. Thumbs Up on the video... you deserve waaayyy more Likes !!!
@ToolShow2 жыл бұрын
"Value" fits so much better than "Price", because something that is cheap, but doesn't last more than a month, isn't a very good value. You can spend $500 on a saw, and if it does the job, accurately and reliably for 10 years, that's a hell of a value. As usually, a SPECTACULAR review. Well done, and high fives to your entire crew.
@ConcordCarpenter2 жыл бұрын
Thanks R&S
@CorwinBos2 жыл бұрын
Right on with this comment! There are times where a cheap tool is a good enough answer when it only sees occasional use. But there are times where the tool that costs twice as much is the answer because you use it day in, day out for years and years and it pays for itself.
@IMPACT-NATION2 жыл бұрын
Well said! They are top shelf testers
@williamwright37352 жыл бұрын
As a professional I agree with that statement, however, for someone who may just their tool as much in a year as I do in a week price sometimes matters more than value so value can be much more subjective
@rdeh16783 ай бұрын
The metabo htp has a lifetime warranty
@charlesking6782 жыл бұрын
This is a thorough test. I love project farm. He does a great job putting tools to the test, however I feel this head to head (and most of the h2h videos) is more real world test. These are things tradesmen in the field will actually see. 5 star video.
@sloanNYC2 жыл бұрын
Agreed, the tools are being used by humans who adjust pressure and speed to get the most out of a saw. But really, so many are so good now compared to 10 years ago... we are picking among amazing options.
@Oh_No_OMG2 жыл бұрын
This exact comment is on the jigsaw video….. how bizarre
@steffendetrick94032 жыл бұрын
@@Oh_No_OMG Maybe it’s being planted intentionally?
@tangodown2721 Жыл бұрын
I agree was disappointed with project farm test of circ saws. The little 2x4s didn't really show anything that makes a good circ saw.
@charlesking678 Жыл бұрын
@@tangodown2721 I won't go so far as to say I'm disappointed, just that the head 2 head test are more what the tradesmen will see in real life. I like what project farm does as well
@garyprice66512 жыл бұрын
I think this channel is the very best at tool testing I have ever watched
@MrArcticPOWER2 жыл бұрын
Great head to head and I'm not surprised by the winner. Dewalt lunch the flexvolt saw almost 6 years ago and there is still no other saw that come close in performance.
@ToolHombre2 жыл бұрын
While I pretty much watch every channel, I tend to align my purchases off of your advice more than any other. Very thorough and I like that there is a team that you rely on to reduce individual biases.
@tonyruba31752 жыл бұрын
It was said up front that the tests included a Ridgid R8657B circular saw. There were two segments up front that displayed this saw, with the 2nd segment ending at about the 8:07 mark. After that, there were several other video segments of a Ridgid circular saw that definitely was NOT the R8657B, including one showing it cutting - would you please explain why this is?
@jandusek8822 жыл бұрын
I have DeWALT DCS578 and it is a beast! Perfect video comparison as always, thanks.
@jeffalan63392 жыл бұрын
The two tester I watch and trust from reviews to testing,this is one of them. Being a finish carpenter need a reliable tool, accurate and durable. To buy a entry level tool have low power output, us far from accurate leaving poor cuts, lastly fails while building the project. Would not be seen as a pro by the client. I watch these videos to help.narrow the field from Bosch, Hilti Makita to mikwaukee. Thanks Rob abd staff for all your hard work.
@jamesgoens35312 жыл бұрын
Another great, detailed review. Even though I’m mainly a DIYer, I sprung for the Makita 36v saw last year when I cut the cord on my old saw. Super impressed with how smooth it is and just feels good to hold and use. Plenty of power too, it zipped right through 3/4” ply when I built my work bench, both ripping and cross cutting. Got it from Acme Tools too 😀
@Giblitzky2 жыл бұрын
It’s honestly a fantastic saw! Got one half a year ago switching from a Dewalt Flexvolt to it and never looked back
@endgovernmentextremism2 жыл бұрын
I have the DeWALT and the very first thing I did with it was trim the door of the chicken coop I was building... 1/2" ply sandwiched onto 2x4. It didn't even care. It has more power than any corded circular saw I have used.
@2chipped2 жыл бұрын
What I love about TBB, more testers, and more data. It's nearly impossible to not have a bias, one person may have a larger hand that does not fit a grip/trigger. Circular saw's job is slowly being taken by tracksaws, and bulk cutting... possibly as low as 5-10% currently. But will always have a job, just like the table and miter. In 2005 I bought 36v 7 1/4 Dewalt to cut 4x4's,and switched to m18 platform because of the 1st 7/14 18v platform for fencing. For cabinet installs I use all cordless, in order... tracksaw, omt, router, mitersaw. I hope to be mitering trim with a tracksaw within the year. Times change and tools evolve, but competitive companies building better tools is great for us all. Well done guys!
@IMPACT-NATION2 жыл бұрын
This is how you review and test something. This should be the standard. Great job guys
@rossb55932 жыл бұрын
I can vouch for the DeWalt 60v Flexvolt. That saw is incredible in power and accuracy.
@Netbug2 жыл бұрын
It's different than the DCS575 if that's what you have. Both are very powerful though.
@rossb55932 жыл бұрын
@@Netbug I have the 578. The one that was tested.
@troyc3335 ай бұрын
Pretty ingenious setup you guys used. Makes me want to setup my saw to run from it while I sip coffee.
@jncn14902 жыл бұрын
Solid review, not including opinion tests or scores, I said it when they came out and it’s still true today. There is no better framing saw then the dewalt Flexvolt 578. ( and older 575) In every category, hands down , not even close, especially with a 12ah on it . Same for the Flexvolt mitresaw , tablesaw, compressor, grinder( not the sawzall) No company has matched what Flexvolt tools can do. Game changer then and still!!
@andrewk86362 жыл бұрын
Agreed but they seriously need a new reciprocating saw. Also a better multi-colored would be nice. They killed it with the absolute best usability but needs a little better performance. As far as carpentry dewalt is just top of the line
@jasoningram20062 жыл бұрын
DeWalt lost to Milwaukee on the 12" miter saw and 8¼" table saw according to this same channel. Although the table saw on had DeWalt using the 9ah. I haven't heard any other tests with a bigger battery since the DW 12ah was released. I've heard Milwaukee hinted at something bigger than the 12ah. I could see them releasing a 15ah sooner than later though. I have the M18 Fuel table saw and I love it. I've found that there's not much difference between brands these days anymore except features really. It's nice to have the added competition though just for bragging rights on the Jobsite.
@719vol2 жыл бұрын
Bigger is usually better, but 12ah is too much for me for everyday carry and use. I’ll just switch out batteries more often and save the weight.
@BrandonContracting2 жыл бұрын
At the 20:12 mark, why were you showing rafter hooks on blade left 6-1/2 inch saws? That's a completely different test..
@helpallofem442811 ай бұрын
Bought 2 makita 36v saws on sale for half price and they came with 2 extra free 5ah batteries with each saw, so 8 batteries total and 2 double chargers. Awesome, powerful saws. Love Makita tools.
@mos85412 жыл бұрын
HEY, you did this about a couple years ago, you let all sorts of framers etc. use all the saws and came up with a couple winners. In addition to my own checking I bought the best compact circ saw avail. the Makita XSH03 for my overhead/one handed work, STILL have it, still use it and everyone loves it
@brianb11795 ай бұрын
👏🏻 great Head to Head , love watching your comparison videos Rob , as a someone who is already on the Bosch platform , I was wondering why you didn't have the new Bosch 7-1/4 , but I think it wasn't available at the time of filming. I have the 6-1/2 little Bosch but this is great information on the 7-1/4 as I am looking at adding the bigger saw to my collection , hopefully you can do another Head to Head including the Bosch. Thanks for your time and great videos. Have a great day Rob 👊🏻🍻
@OUTILSCLIPSQC Жыл бұрын
Ive got the milwaukee for 3 years now and i still like it a lot , powerfull, reliable have work in all kind of harsh condition have never let me down, i like the 18v systeme all batterie fit in all the tool. In the near future when milwaukee will release pouch cell i will use it in my 18v tools dewalt will not be able to make a 60v pouch cell for theirs tool
@ryanjewell98322 жыл бұрын
I used a coworkers Metabo hpt circ saw, and I actually liked it so much I went and bought one and put my milwaukee fuel in the garage, I like the fuel a lot, but the Metabo was more comfortable to me, and I seemed to cut more accurate with it.
@jeremymcintyre78122 жыл бұрын
Metabo is becoming more well-known and seems to be every bit in the pro class. They also make some really good impact and drills. Im a framer, i always used dewalt which are good tools but also because of the other cordless options. But when I seen mikita in a worm drive style I got it, been using it for 2 years it works good. It is heavier but its comfortable to me. There is alot of really good cordless options now.
@jimmyjoe1591 Жыл бұрын
@@jeremymcintyre7812as a framer you should try the metabo rear handle. Super light and powerful
@akinfadairo10842 жыл бұрын
You guys are true engineers! The scientific method is near flawless
@olgajoachimosmundsen46472 жыл бұрын
Very good review! The DeWalt flexvolt is also sold as dcs576 and dcs579 in Europe, both track-compatible saws
@mhess4272 жыл бұрын
The 36v makita is currently available for $260 at Home Depot and comes with a bag, dual charger, 2x 5ah batteries, and your choice of a reciprocating saw or oscillating multi tool. You can’t beat that.
@mhess4272 жыл бұрын
Also, you can return the reciprocating saw to get $90 back, bringing the total cost to 150!!!!
@XaltLures2 жыл бұрын
Here in the expensive Netherlands you get only two 5.0 batteries for 150 dollar..
@bradyfriday2 жыл бұрын
Didn't use a high output battery with the Milwaukee, but used flexvolt on the Dewalt...
@ConcordCarpenter2 жыл бұрын
We kept the batteries is the same range of Ah
@bradyfriday2 жыл бұрын
@@ConcordCarpenter Ah has nothing to do with the high output function. It is a considerable difference when using ANY Milwaukee tool with a high output battery. Ah is simply about runtime.
@dbvuong2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the great review! I’m seeing both Metabo and Bosch in the clips. Curious why they were left off the evaluation?
@ConcordCarpenter2 жыл бұрын
They weren’t unless your seeing the 6-12 and rear handled saw - we will do them individually
@simonnorton49652 жыл бұрын
Love the video! I’d like to see Milwaukee with a high output battery.
@ConcordCarpenter2 жыл бұрын
It would probably have come close or beat the Felxvolt
@evolvep27472 жыл бұрын
no bosch biturbo brushless?
@erictownsend42362 жыл бұрын
First Great test! One catagory I would like to see you compare is how easily a blade guard retracts while performing different cuts without requiring the user to manually assist. Thank You for the time and expense your team puts in to provide the tests! Eric
@PD-we8vf2 жыл бұрын
Yep. My Milwalkee gets caught up often.
@jeromeborle5642 жыл бұрын
Why don't you try the new Bosch profactor for that test ?
@ThaddeusVilain2 жыл бұрын
With a video this impressively detailed and thorough, how can I not Like and Subscribe
@LoCon.MCS132 жыл бұрын
Amazing intro! I usually just skip to the parts I want to see but that intro really was interesting and informative. Good to know some of the history and evolution behind the amazing tools we have now.
@loucifer42052 жыл бұрын
The Bosch is almost a hybrid design between rear handle and sidewinder where it handle is located
@projectpinehills2 жыл бұрын
I like the way this test was setup with all saw blades being the same orientation (blade right) but I was confused to see several saws with blades mounted blade left in the video. Important because line-of-site was one of the test criteria.
@Therealphantomzero2 жыл бұрын
Considering that the Metabo HPT saw is probably one of the oldest saws on the list and it did very well. Finding them to be a good backup brand for when I have to send my Milwaukee stuff to warranty Great value great power again just great value
@baseballdude84912 жыл бұрын
The new rear handle has replaced our other worm drive left handed saws on the jobsite
@ConcordCarpenter2 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@michaelnichols76692 жыл бұрын
@@baseballdude8491 Just got that saw and love it. I have mostly dewalt tools, but as they wear out ill be replacing them with Metabo HPT. Impressive tools at a great price.
@baseballdude84912 жыл бұрын
@@michaelnichols7669 yep they are priced right and have all the things I'm looking for including the lifetime gaurantee
@ImpulseAudioSpeakers2 жыл бұрын
Agreed. If I was an apprentice carpenter right now I’d go metabo. Save a few bucks, great saws and nailers, and their bigger tools have the battery to plug feature. Hard to go wrong.
@tommychong1173 Жыл бұрын
Got my eye on the metabo HPT rear handle saw cuz of the weight and it can be cordless or corded , and can be found on the shelf n bought. But like the idea of using the 60 flex volt on my 20 volt tools .
@Scrambler852 жыл бұрын
I had just bought the Dewalt, thanks for the video confirming my choice. Definitely a thumbs up for the video 👍
@jocecaron2 жыл бұрын
Hi! Great video, as always. A reason why the Bosch Profactor was not included in the review ?
@miken14242 жыл бұрын
Great saw, was wondering the same thing
@RandomGuy-qm3mg2 жыл бұрын
I wondered that too. I got that saw a couple months ago and really like it. Great power and feels like a well constructed tool. Also a decent deal if you catch a free battery promotion.
@paulmendenhall52262 жыл бұрын
I use a saw for working on tractor trailer floors usually 1 1/4 hardwood 12 in wide i have been through 2 milwaukee saws the last one didn't last for about 20 cuts a does anyone make a cordless saw that will hold up i don't use it everyday only when we get a hole in the floors any recommendations
@rdeh16783 ай бұрын
The metabo , can also be plugged in , and you can get it with a bt vacumm as well , and lifetime warranty
@miken14242 жыл бұрын
Darn, was really hoping to see how the bosch profactor track capable saw would fair against the rest. Great saw, nice testing though!
@hectorcraft62862 жыл бұрын
I was waiting for the same thing
@JB-ot9hi2 жыл бұрын
They left it out on purpose!
@scottarnold52152 жыл бұрын
@@JB-ot9hi How so?
@JB-ot9hi2 жыл бұрын
@@scottarnold5215 By placing two DeWalt saws in the competition.
@scottarnold52152 жыл бұрын
@@JB-ot9hi Inaccurate. Completely fabricated...
@stephenbailey34962 жыл бұрын
Best tool reviews out there, great work! Thank you 👍
@1hammily2 жыл бұрын
Another good video guys! Thanks for taking the time to make this.
@TheBostonstapler2 жыл бұрын
another great video! im wondering how the milwaukee would compare with a HO battery like a 6.0 or 8.0
@vetteazul51142 жыл бұрын
I have the milwaukee, but this xmas I got a smoking deal on some Metabo stuff, including the circ saw. I haven't messed with it yet, but based on your review it looks like I picked a winner.
@baseballdude84912 жыл бұрын
I've been a red and blue guy for a long time but we have replaced alot of our jobsite tools I er the last 3+ yrs with more Metabo HPT 36V tools-Lifetime.warranty, AC adapter for the longer run tools(saves battery life), batteries backwards compatible with 18V and 36V, durable and priced much better than my other favorites which allows me to outfit more of my crew with pro grade tools w/out killing profits
@schmitty692 жыл бұрын
Love it!! You need to do a best 7" and 10" wet tile saw review video. Rigid, Dewalt, Kobalt, Harbor freight....well, you know the deal better than I do!
@Nuclear-Kenny2 жыл бұрын
I love my Milwaukee fuel rear handle comes with a blade wrench like DeWalt. Plus I played around with the the bevel and height adjustment now I don't have a issue with them agreed you can't beat a DeWalt circular saw. But true enough can be said about Milwaukee sawzall
@wildgoose65962 жыл бұрын
Well done! You guys really did a great job. I am amazed by the time you have invested in your tests.
@JosephGahagan-vh4pz4 ай бұрын
Ive been researching Flex for the last 3 years. I wanted to be sure before committing to a battery platform. Ive been doing construction for over 20 years and ive experienced all of the best offerings from the top green yellow and red brands. Im currently running all FLEX tools. FLEX is so far ahead of everything out there in power ,run time , charging and durability.
@ConcordCarpenter4 ай бұрын
@@JosephGahagan-vh4pz I’ve been very impressed with flex so far. However, some of the flex tall that we’ve had have not lasted long term
@MorganJoe4 ай бұрын
I have that Ryobi saw, it's great with a 5ah HP compatible battery and above, anything under... it sucks really bad, bogs down, stalls all the time, the smallest deflection in material can stall it instantly, but that 5ah HP battery does make a difference it feels like it wants to run away sometimes even in thicker harder material.
@kathymcq092 жыл бұрын
Wow! What a fantastic review! I read the article on your website first and then watched the video. Your controls to make sure that the testing conditions for all the saws was consistent is impressive and much appreciated! I feel confident that I will make the right decision for me when I buy my replacement saw. Thank you so much for taking the time and effort to make this information available. I'm looking forward to learning more from ToolBoxBuzz.
@colinokane31562 жыл бұрын
Great vid. No shock the dewalt 60 volt won. I have that saw and it’s the best saw I’ve ever owned
@DANMOTYL Жыл бұрын
That wi-fi aws looks cool... But I'll wait for that to be perfected. . Thanks for this review. I'm settled on my 60vt decision. I'm east coast , as you. I need a blade right sidewinder.
@kadenblount94462 жыл бұрын
No Bosch profactor?
@craiglamb90292 жыл бұрын
Disappointed that the New and widely available Bosch Profactor Strong Arm Brushless 7-1/4 saw didn't make it. Amazing saw, super powerful and comfortable brushless saw. especially with the 8.0 "Fat"Core battery. Menards and Lowes locally have it in stock. Bosch StrongArm 7-1/4 SGKS18V-25. Also, thank you for your extensive testing regimen efforts. Great reviews as usual.
@ConcordCarpenter2 жыл бұрын
This is the saw Bosch wanted tested
@alansousa24882 жыл бұрын
Please test the cordless framing and finish nailer. Metabo/hitachi/hikoki 36v Milwaukee Paslode…
@ajmedeiros772 жыл бұрын
Fantastic as always! Just can’t beat makita for quality and accuracy. After using Only makita for years, when I grab somebodys Milwaukee or Dewalt I just can’t believe the lack of build quality. Almost every comparison I watch, even cordless chainsaw etc, makita may not be the fastest but there always comments about the build quality and balance in hand. Go Celtics!
@jonruger2 жыл бұрын
Makitas were great ten years ago their batteries have fallen off so bad and they are not keeping up with the other brands in tool or battery tech at all. Makitas feel like underpowered tools because they are by today’s standards and their prices are still some of the highest
@travisjazzbo34902 жыл бұрын
@@jonruger That is simply not true. The measure of tools is volts and amps and some tools are geared for more RPMs and some for more torque, depending on the application. A Milwaukee, being only 18V for instance, ends up being a much heavier tool in applications that need power like a big saw, a blower, or a rotary hammer. You will never see a Makita get blown out of any POWER challenge. They are always right up there. However, DW and Milwaukee work hard to make sure the typical American construction guy knows they care about power, whether that application needs that much power or not, while the Makita may cut a lot more boards for the same application for more efficiency, which is really the most important thing. 90% of tool tests on KZbin stress power. No one talks about reliability. If there was an odometer you could put on tools, you would see a Makita goes twice as long as Milwaukee and DW before needing repairs typically, and they also are almost always ergonomically superior. To say Makita's are underpowered is a fallacy. Batteries, as far as Volts and Amps, are within a few % of each other. They are virtually the same technology, and Milwaukee notoriously overheats for instance, because they are desperately trying to get more power out of 18V, and that causes heat issues, but it is not inferior or superior battery tech at all
@jonruger2 жыл бұрын
@@travisjazzbo3490 you just rambled the same thing on repeat makitas batteries have ten plus year old cell technology they do not put out good power or last very long. They do not make anything better than a 5 amp hour battery with old cells that’s really more like the other brands 3s. Makitas were cool ten years ago but I gave them up to have tools that can complete jobs on a single charge.
@travisjazzbo34902 жыл бұрын
@@jonruger They have had fast charging for far longer than anyone else which includes cooling the batteries during the charge so they don't cause unnecessary heat so they last longer. They have kept the same battery shape since 2005 so they work on old tools and new tools, given how long the tools last, unlike others who keep making users change tools to accommodate new battery types. They also support the most tools of any company on one true battery platform so the jobsite can have well over 200 different tools literally all running one battery platform. They have had tool to battery and vice versa communication in their tools and batteries far longer than anyone else, to shut down during overheating and overload to protect both the tool and the battery, and also to prevent complete draining of the battery. In fact, they protect their tools and batteries far better than others, which massively extends the life of the battery and the tool, but 99% of construction people don't understand things like this. They call it STAR protection and they have had it a long time: Here is a quick summary... Makita cordless tools are engineered for industrial applications, and for added protection during the most demanding jobs Makita created STAR Protection Computer Controls™. STAR is communications technology that monitors conditions during use, allowing the tool and battery to exchange data to protect against overloading, overdischarging and overheating. If STAR detects conditions that threaten to overload, overdischarge or overheat the tool or battery, the tool will automatically stop. This is why you will see Makita batteries lasting far, far longer than most of the others out there. Battery tech is not very different between batteries for a long time, just protection mechanisms to make the batteries perform more efficiently and last a lot longer. You hear these kinds of conversations all the time with electric cars and how you make your battery last longer and why it does and so forth. Makita builds all of that stuff in for both during usage as well as when charging. If you ever own an electric car, you will care about stuff like this a lot more. Construction people generally have ZERO idea of this kind of thing... Business people who understand things like reliability, longevity, ergonomics, true 1 battery system benefits... business-minded people basically
@jonruger2 жыл бұрын
@@travisjazzbo3490 again a long repetitive rant their battery cells and all that tech you mentioned are 10 years old everyone does similar or better now and everyone else uses modern cells Makitas would be just fine if they made modern batteries they revolutionized lithium tool batteries but I’ve done nothing since then.
@bri_guy5082 жыл бұрын
Love my makita 36 v saw! Even got it for 180 by returning the free tool when home depot had that deal. The rafter hook (that you have to buy seperate) is well worth it if you frame like me.
@weldonpinder72952 жыл бұрын
another great head to head. thanks for all of your hard work and for this up to date head to head. These head to head videos is y I subscribed to this channel. I speak for many of us when I say we'd love to see a new impact driver and hammer drill head to head
@yup33982 жыл бұрын
Thanks for all your effort here. Really appreciate it!
@charlschuck62 жыл бұрын
I wanted to suggest idk if you have in your channel but do a flashlight test comparison (handheld and or head led) for outdoor working night time usage and weather proof but more which one last more and evaluate the heat they can reach as many get so hot can hold on more than 16mins when lumens go after 700-2000lumens hopefully someone does 😅 love your comparison videos they teach a lot of points . One of the ones I tested reach in 10mins 98degress all over the lamp hmm idk if it was a lamp of a hand warmer 😂🤔 the environment temp was 68 -73 max regular night temp . Can’t say a brand cause you’ll all know which ones I tested 😆 Insane testing you guys do I know it takes time and money for such tests great Job guys !!!
@rickyperkins2322 жыл бұрын
What happened to the Flex line of saws?
@codyhagedorn73992 жыл бұрын
huge fan love every video your channel puts out. try out the craftsman 7 1/4 brushless v20 side winder. it's comparable to the DeWalt XR 20v sidewinder. it blows the Ryobi and Ridgid out of the water.
@Fictitious_Character2 жыл бұрын
I'm one of those unicorns. For tool batt platform I use DeWalt, Makita, and Milwaukee. For sidewinder circ saw I run the Flexvolt and it's a great saw that has never let me down. As always very thorough h2h and I appreciate the time and effort you guys do for the h2h videos.
@justAnotherMike822 жыл бұрын
I believe the xgt saw without the guide-rail base does come with the rafter hook.
@noskills95772 жыл бұрын
Good review, one of the few channels that put in a huge effort into testing. Looks like you had the old Metabo 18v saw which quite frankly is terrible - a shame you didn’t have the new brushless model to test against the other saws as I would like to know if it was worth buying 😂 Brand loyalty does come into tool buying but I think more important is the cost involved in adding an extra battery platform to your tools - having another charger and enough batteries to make the new tool useful can be a big investment for the little folk like me.
@rileytaylor12062 жыл бұрын
Love watching these videos from you guys! Always so well done and informative
@luisinhoens902 жыл бұрын
I wanted to see the newer Bosch PROFACTOR GKS18V-25CB14. It's supposed to get comparable performance to a high performance corded saw and the material quality looks superb. Regardless, it was a great comparison and your testing methods are very well thought
@kadenblount94462 жыл бұрын
I like mine
@Joyjoiner2 жыл бұрын
just got the track compatible bosch biturbo, tradedin my 54v flexvolt. very impressed with the Bosch, great line of sight, plenty power,great height of blade adjustment, great feel to it,dont miss the dewalt one bit
@simonwever82066 ай бұрын
Grest head to head, great channel. So much good information. I'm looking for a new circular saw. As a DIY'er who builds a lot at home. Is a cordless circular saw like the DeWalt DCS578 worth it or should I stick with the corded version from DeWalt?
@specialistjj2 жыл бұрын
Another great video! Before I buy a new tool I always check you guys out first. Keep up the great work!
@Miked13322 жыл бұрын
I own the Ryobi HP Brushless circular saw and I was really hoping it would come out at least in the mid range... But the only time you mentioned it was when you talked about how unimpressive the bevel stops are.. I gotta agree. I'm not blown away by this saw. But it gets the job done. At least for now until I can get the DeWalt flexvolt rear handle.
@terobb02 жыл бұрын
Very thorough testing as always, so thanks for the good, thoughtful content. A bit disappointed not to see any of the Flex offerings included here. Project Farm put out a video a week ago where the older model 7 1/4” Circ saw from Flex bested its competitors. Pro Tool reviews had similar findings as Project Farm when they ranked Circular Saws in 2021, with Flex at or near the top of the list. The new rear handled Flex may not be widely available yet, but it would be nice to see that offering as well.
@ConcordCarpenter2 жыл бұрын
Flex rear handle saw will be evaluated in our rear-handle H2H
@shawnames53022 жыл бұрын
@@ConcordCarpenter hi Rob. Why did you choose to separate the saws? So far my prediction is 100 I called Dewalt left and xgt righty
@ConcordCarpenter2 жыл бұрын
@@shawnames5302 separated the saws by category/size- 6-1/2. 7-1/4 and rear handle They all have a bit different application as well
@baseballdude84912 жыл бұрын
@@shawnames5302 we use the Rear handle Flexvolt, Milwaukee and Makita 36V(2x18) but everyone is fighting over the new Metabo HPT's we have two on the last two months jobsites and guys are fighting over them and some of these guys are red, yellow and red fanboys-the weight and feel is real w/out sacrificing power and accuracy+we do have it plugged in with the AC adapter when making some deep cuts into larger stock which gives unlimited runtime and saves a few cycles on the batteries
@gcoffey223 Жыл бұрын
Cool... we are fixing up our rentals every other month. The process is abusing power tools for 2 to 3 weeks. Rigid is all I have. I love them, but I need to pick up many more tools. I'm going Ryobi and expecting the worst, but I'm hoping for good results. Wish me luck.
@igorzvak85262 жыл бұрын
Great testing and reviews. I like that the info is well structured on website as well. Keep it up!
@jake97052 жыл бұрын
Amazing work as always, gentlemen! Your carpentry tool tests are usually more strenuous than Project Farm's tests and I appreciate that. Have only two suggestions for you: 1) Metabo is the ONLY brand in America that has a "cordless-to-corded" conversion kit for their cordless tools and they do not get nearly enough credit for that. Would like to see that feature highlighted in your tests of Metabo tools more often, specifically how much better a cordless Metabo tool does when converted to corded. The power of corded with the option to go portable with cordless is a huge advantage over other brands. 2) No one ever tests the factory blade that comes with these things! Most tool-testers assume that the factory supplied blade is trash and immediately pay $25-$75 for an aftermarket replacement blade. As your final test, you should re-equip the saws with their factory blade and run a quick cut test to see how the factory blades do. If the factory blade is of quality then that is essentially $25-$75 off the retail price of the saw since you do not immediately have to buy a better, aftermarket blade.
@jaysoncarlos86512 жыл бұрын
You guys amazing! Thank you for doing all of this test. More power to your channel 👍👊
@vojnikjna302 жыл бұрын
I’ve been using Hilti for a long time and I’m really happy with Makita alongside my Hilti tools.
@travisjazzbo34902 жыл бұрын
Makita and Hilti for quality, value, reliability, and service
@Ras-wisdom2 жыл бұрын
Nice review but only one cordless I'm very interested in seeing to compete that's missing was the 24v flex circular saw!
@ParchmentKH77ftw2 жыл бұрын
I've been saying for years now the best Milwaukee circular saw that was produced was that original 6.5" M18 fuel. Seeing the head-to-head comparisons with other manufacturers, it's clear that Milwaukee has some work to do catching up. I don't think there has been a 7.25 Milwaukee saw i have ever enjoyed using, despite my blood running pretty red.
@nesteezy488411 ай бұрын
Wish the Dewalt DCS577B was tested as I’m looking to buy that one
@charlespetit54102 жыл бұрын
You already have the packout shop stuff!! Can't wait for the reviews!
@Dusty_Bottoms_2 жыл бұрын
Another well done test, would've liked to see Bosch & Craftsman included
@Stevesbe2 жыл бұрын
Makita xsh08z it fits in the rail guide It's the best and cherryd impact drivers are top notch
@toolswithtim2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Guys for the very Thorough testing! One thing I was wondering about is that you had the old Bosch 6 1/2" saw for testing but didn't test the more Modern Brushless GKS18V- 25 which would've been alot more comparable to it's peers. Was a sample not available?
@ConcordCarpenter2 жыл бұрын
Its the model they sent for the test - they were given the test parameters
@toolswithtim2 жыл бұрын
@@ConcordCarpenter Oh Gotcha. Thanks
@ckcuev2 жыл бұрын
I would have loved to see the flex be tested in this head to head as its a powerful saw. maybe you could do an adendum video and rank it among these saws. also the craftsman brushless v20 tests well by other youtubers.
@ConcordCarpenter2 жыл бұрын
Agreed, they failed to send us the saw, and we didn’t notice until test day. We can be better!
@ckcuev2 жыл бұрын
@@ConcordCarpenter thanks for the response Rob. Can you do an addendum video to rank it?
@ConcordCarpenter2 жыл бұрын
@@ckcuev We took our rig part and are moving onto next project
@ckcuev2 жыл бұрын
@@ConcordCarpenter oh ok thanks. Looks like that info will be unknown until someone can do a test like that again which won't be for many years. That's unfortunate
@89dhvac2 жыл бұрын
Why not use the bigger batteries when trying to max these saws out cutting lvl? I can almost guarantee the Milwaukee would not have stalled with the appropriate battery
@MrArcticPOWER2 жыл бұрын
He uses similar capacity batteries for each saw to make it even.
@ConcordCarpenter2 жыл бұрын
I agree - I use Milwaukee daily. We tried to pick a battery size to be inclusive to ALL brands. The 12 AH High OutPut battery would have dominated
@straight_to_finish2 жыл бұрын
Great testing lineup Rob! I use to be a Bosch fanboy 10 years ago but in the past 5 years, it’s been FUELED by team Red since they continue to innovate! 😁 Battery platform is a major factor when it comes down to brand choice, which is why I’ll never own a cordless yellow tool.
@mirekdudka90712 жыл бұрын
Where is that very old Bosch saw?
@cav8285 Жыл бұрын
Y’all should put time stamps for the different categories and the charts so we can go to the tests that mean the most to us. Thanks!
@BoldWittyName2 жыл бұрын
As a DeWalt owner one thing you forgot to mention is the 99% worthless depth gauge. It's steel-on-engraved-steel which is hard enough to see. Add saw dust and safety glasses and it disappears. I'm hoping white spray paint will fix it...
@sladeoriginal2 жыл бұрын
Should place blade depth directly to material thickness. Never use Depth gauge anyway
@artgomez28632 жыл бұрын
Great video! But why no Flex?
@IndependentThinker742 жыл бұрын
At 9:54 you show 18 different saws. Some left bladed. All the saws in this test were right blade. Will you be doing a follow-up test for left blade saws?
@ConcordCarpenter2 жыл бұрын
Yes we will have 3 break out articles/videos in 3 categories- 6-1/2, 7-14 and rear handle
@girthbrooks392 жыл бұрын
Obviously the festool hkc55 does not use a 7-1/4" blade however it was designed for an intended use similar to that of 7-1/4" circular saws. Hence I do not believe it would be unreasonable to say that the hkc55 could be considered in the same category. That said I would consider it not only far and away the best saw out of all of these but I would say that due to its capabilities and features the hkc55 is in a class of its own.
@marlandj532 жыл бұрын
I have the Ryobi 7 1/4 saw I was wondering if you used Ryobi HP batteries. The Ryobi is low-powered if not used with at least a 4ah HP batt. (it will stall out easily)
@vladimirlopez7840 Жыл бұрын
The flexvolt 60v is on its way out so the 578 running on 20v batteries may not be the same.
@nelsoncarpentry2 жыл бұрын
Love these videos! I spy unreleased Packout and I’m jealy. I think picking the XGT with track compatible base hurt it. It’s significantly heavier, bevels a lot less, and costs a good amount more (not that cost was ranked). But I may be saying that due to bias. My first circular saw like you was a corded Makita. Nothing feels as nice.
@ConcordCarpenter2 жыл бұрын
Good eye- video soon
@baseballdude84912 жыл бұрын
That's what I thought until I we brought the new Metabo HPT 36V rear handle to the jobsite-everyone is ditchin the DeWalt, a Milwaukee and old favorite 36V(2x18) Makita
@ConcordCarpenter2 жыл бұрын
@@baseballdude8491 lighter
@baseballdude84912 жыл бұрын
@@ConcordCarpenter yes it's lighter and we are using it for applications we use the 6 1/2's for such as overhead and above shoulder jobs I can tell the difference after a full day of cutting on my 51yr old body But the young guys like it for how accurate, powerful, great site line and how they can wield it around
@nelsoncarpentry2 жыл бұрын
@@baseballdude8491 I've heard a lot of good about it, but my issue is how little is available on their multivolt platform. It's been around a lot longer than XGT, yet XGT has a lot more options already. Battery platform is a big consideration to me. I already have four, but thankfully two chargers cover them all.
@Tool_Addicted_Carpenter2 жыл бұрын
Thanks sir, a lot of work went into this. My dewalts have treated me very well. I noticed you had a XR 6.0 during the dewalt speed runs but the flexvolt 6.0 during other tests. The XR 6.0 is 21700 cells while the flex is 18650. My flexvolt sawzall runs stronger on an XR 6.0 than on a flex 6.0 even though it's supposed to benefit from flexvolt batteries. Long story short, I'd be curious what the dewalts times would look like if you threw a flexvolt 9.0 battery in considering it uses 21700 cells and the saw should technically benefit from the flexvolt battery tech itself. Either way, great info, and the makita with AWS and track compatibility is definitely on my wish list. All I need is for 17 skillsaws to stop working and I can finally justify it lol
@MrArcticPOWER2 жыл бұрын
I personally don't feel any difference between the 6ah 18650 and the 9ah 21700. The 6ah cells are samsong 20s (30a) and the 9ah cells are samsong 30t (35a), so not a big difference.
@cndjonno2 жыл бұрын
@@MrArcticPOWER The difference should be minimal at high battery level but at lower levels it can be significant. As the battery drops down and power is demanded the voltage sag will increase on the 18650s compared to the 21700s. This will also mean less heat due to lower current and better battery life and longevity.
@Tool_Addicted_Carpenter2 жыл бұрын
@@MrArcticPOWER I understand that it doesn't feel like a major difference but from 1st to last place was only 8 seconds off so even taking 1-2 seconds off of a fastest cut is pretty substantial as it would be another 10-20% faster overall. I'm just curious, I like all my saws. Bosch, makita, dewalt, metabo, etc. Even the little M12 is alright, but definitely needs a major update considering a 5 3/8" saw should be doing better than a 1 1/2" cut depth. I get the same depth from dewalts 4 1/2" blade and Makitas 5 3/8" trim saw has 2" cut depth. I digress lol
@whateyatalkinabout49722 жыл бұрын
Speeds wouldn’t be noticeable. Probably a few milliseconds difference if that. 6ah is more commonly used, 9ah adds a lot of weight as does the 12ah and 15ah flexvolt batteries. They do add some extra power as the battery doesn’t drain as quickly but I think for practicality they stuck with 6ah batteries which majority of platforms have and which most tradies would prefer using as they make the tool more comfortable to use
@MrArcticPOWER2 жыл бұрын
Btw, if you're using a 20v XR 6.0 battery on your sawzall, you don't have the real 60v flexvolt one, but the flexvolt advantage. They look the same, but the flexvolt advantage operates at 20v and is a lot less powerfull. Same thing for the cicular saw or any other flexvolt advantage tool. Why does the 6ah XR gives you more power than a 6ah flexvolt battery, I don't know. The 6ah flexvolt should be able to push a constent 90 amps at 20v while the 6ah XR can only do 70 amps. It doesn't make sense.
@larrytraber2 жыл бұрын
You said you chose batteries from the 4-6ah range but for the ryobi you show it with a 1.2ah battery. What's up with that?
@marlandj532 жыл бұрын
1.2 barely runs the 7 1/4 saw it is very underpowered
@mrboom45702 жыл бұрын
I have the flexvolt Dewalt saw. Very happy with it.