FGW Class 180 Faults And Failures

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@crazypilot7577
@crazypilot7577 8 жыл бұрын
"Dispatch, my train has stopped working." "Have you tried turning it off and on again?"
@craigybus1
@craigybus1 8 жыл бұрын
'Dispatch, the train is on fire'. 'Switch it off for 30 seconds and isolate it'
@CurvedGD
@CurvedGD 4 жыл бұрын
Have you isolated the passengers
@adamstrainvideos
@adamstrainvideos 3 жыл бұрын
Now, you'll be going nowhere
@cbawitlife
@cbawitlife 3 жыл бұрын
@@adamstrainvideos yes, you'll definitely be going nowhere, Adam tireman, and you know whos to blame: your brother Paul
@NaenaeGaming
@NaenaeGaming 3 жыл бұрын
@@CurvedGD No, Paul flushed them all down the toilet
@thefatcontroller4094
@thefatcontroller4094 4 жыл бұрын
1:17 A Railway meme is born
@enyer3
@enyer3 3 жыл бұрын
:)
@TheArkamedBat
@TheArkamedBat 3 жыл бұрын
@@CaptainJackSparrowisreal Yep yep
@atr344_dennis_trident_
@atr344_dennis_trident_ Жыл бұрын
True😂
@SilentlyGerman
@SilentlyGerman Жыл бұрын
1:18 better momento
@dawnandrews8969
@dawnandrews8969 Жыл бұрын
You’ll be going nowhere.
@SouPacCon
@SouPacCon Жыл бұрын
"A burst or any similar defect in any toilet can result in a loss of main reservoir air pressure"... Dear lord...
@FarmYardGaming
@FarmYardGaming 10 ай бұрын
Blimey!
@grahamallen1970
@grahamallen1970 4 ай бұрын
Toilet is air solenoid operated as are all controlled emissions toilets so if a air leak or heavy loss of air it affects the trains main air res (around 10 bar) if main res drops to around less than 5 bar a safety system kicks in and applies the train brakes as any less than that pressure the train brakes will not work effectively..... so not as daft as it sounds now is it😮
@onlinefriend3889
@onlinefriend3889 Ай бұрын
@@grahamallen1970 But why would you link the toilet air reservoir into the same one for the brakes, given this video says that a loss in pressure affects the brake supply? Surely it could've been designed to work separately??
@grahamallen1970
@grahamallen1970 Ай бұрын
@@onlinefriend3889 all air systems on uk stock runs of the same air compressor that supplies the brakes...none return valves would seem to be a good idea but have been troublesome in past and caused brake failures.... When you have lemons you make lemonade...that's how uk trains work... Loss of air supply also affects warning horn...= extremely slow running at caution as unable to give warning to lineside workers...no windscreen wipers on some units ... No air to drivers seat...the list goes on
@tilerman
@tilerman 2 жыл бұрын
Bloody handy this video, i have one of these trains in my back yard and now i can finally work out how to fault find on it and get it going.
@adamchubb6910
@adamchubb6910 7 ай бұрын
How many coaches?
@Slaithyte
@Slaithyte 7 ай бұрын
​@@adamchubb6910 he's just got the drivers cab
@FarmYard-Trains
@FarmYard-Trains 4 ай бұрын
Someone actually ended up with a locomotive in their back garden nearby and I genuinely wonder if a video like this exists on KZbin to help them
@ScrotusXL
@ScrotusXL 4 жыл бұрын
This train was designed by committee. “If the engine doesn’t start, turn on the windscreen wipers, walk down the end of the train and look out the window. Burn some incense then go back to the cab and press the fog light button”. Eh?, re-set the toilet heater to make the doors work?!!! Madness.
@TheArkamedBat
@TheArkamedBat 8 ай бұрын
Even a Pacer is simpler.
@FarmYard-Trains
@FarmYard-Trains 4 ай бұрын
Honestly even for a train driver this seems a bit much
@yeahman70
@yeahman70 3 жыл бұрын
For those wondering, 180102 is the unit that will actually be going nowhere
@TheBrickGuy7939
@TheBrickGuy7939 2 жыл бұрын
Along with the passengers.
@kaseycaseyiel
@kaseycaseyiel 2 жыл бұрын
Along with Adelante
@FranekTransport0607
@FranekTransport0607 2 жыл бұрын
Along with Paul tyreman
@TheArkamedBat
@TheArkamedBat 2 жыл бұрын
Along with Spa Films.
@kgroveringer03
@kgroveringer03 Жыл бұрын
Along with First Great Western.
@brownboybilly
@brownboybilly 12 жыл бұрын
6:23 Look how happy he is that he was able to release the doors.
@DexterPlayz_Productions
@DexterPlayz_Productions 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, 6:23
@onlinefriend3889
@onlinefriend3889 Ай бұрын
"Finally, something friggin' works..."
@MannyAntipov
@MannyAntipov 4 жыл бұрын
9:49 "You expect the button to light _it doesn't"_
@operatormook1623
@operatormook1623 2 жыл бұрын
Complexity is the most problematic thing about this its so complicated that some drivers can even forget how to use it
@basiltaylor8910
@basiltaylor8910 Жыл бұрын
Thank C----t for MetCamm Class 101,s built in the Jurassic period, simple, noisy smelly, not that fast but they work and get you to your destination. Yes cats&kittens you can fix a 101 with spanners screwdrivers , socket sets and not a f-----g laptop!!!!.
@solsburian
@solsburian 10 ай бұрын
@@basiltaylor8910 The blame for the issues the 180 and the similar Coradia Juniper classes was cost cutting instigated from Alstom's HQ in France. The old Met-Camm plant was able to successfully produce the 1995/56 tube stock, Class 390 and the X3 for Sweden without the same issues.
@basiltaylor8910
@basiltaylor8910 10 ай бұрын
F------g bean counters, ruining many a good design,yes because Met-Camm is not run by cretins in grey corporate suits.@@solsburian
@basiltaylor8910
@basiltaylor8910 10 ай бұрын
So typical of companies run by corporate bean counters, you have to issue each a Ladybird Book with pictures to realise what a real train looks like. @@solsburian Good old Met Camm a company run by railway engineers, not bean counters. Alstom should venture into making sex toys for Love Honey and leave train building to the experts Met-Camm.
@Gusest2676
@Gusest2676 4 жыл бұрын
“And You Will Be Going Nowhere” 1:17
@kylemc2005
@kylemc2005 4 жыл бұрын
Biggest meme in first history
@trainlover11playzgoodbyetr4
@trainlover11playzgoodbyetr4 3 жыл бұрын
1:18
@LHoriginal
@LHoriginal 3 жыл бұрын
@@trainlover11playzgoodbyetr4 I think 1:17 is better because if its at 1:18 he says "oing nowhere"
@DaveDVideoMaker
@DaveDVideoMaker 3 жыл бұрын
That meme is almost 18 years old.
@CadanHartleyElliott
@CadanHartleyElliott 4 ай бұрын
​@@DaveDVideoMakerStill, at least it isn't as overused to death as the RickRoll is.
@PottersVideos2
@PottersVideos2 6 жыл бұрын
7:45 Ensure you that you lock the toilet out of use. Having to take the entire carriage out of service due to a toilet being filled with shit and not being able to flush isn't good.
@nikerailfanningttm9046
@nikerailfanningttm9046 Жыл бұрын
*SHOULD YOU ATTEMPT TO FLUSH THE TOILET, THE IN-BOWL SHIT WILL BREAK THE BOWL AND THUS CAUSS THE CARRIAGE TO FLOOD WITH SHIT.*
@tourmaline07
@tourmaline07 8 ай бұрын
Just watching this and that was a very curious omission - not mentioning taking the toilet out of service with a disabled pneumatic flush! , would like to think that's obvious
@音丨HAT丶土老鼠明睿
@音丨HAT丶土老鼠明睿 4 ай бұрын
总加速师快乐车
@音丨HAT丶土老鼠明睿
@音丨HAT丶土老鼠明睿 4 ай бұрын
因为一突开就满脸喷粪啊满脸是粪
@FarmYard-Trains
@FarmYard-Trains 4 ай бұрын
​@@nikerailfanningttm9046Don't worry the train is already full of it lmao
@trainz10
@trainz10 6 жыл бұрын
..."-And you'll be going nowhere!".
@ollywelsh1198
@ollywelsh1198 4 жыл бұрын
No wonder our trains are late or when they break down its a major farce to resolve! I really feel for drivers having to deal with all this. At least with steam you could limp easily for the rest of the journey! :-)
@northstar1950
@northstar1950 10 жыл бұрын
Some of the main problems with these units are: 1 Digital Ash Tray Sensor Malfunctions. 2 Digital toilet (Digibog) will not swap to manual override when passing through tunnels at 250 mph and once they have overcome the problems with horn tuning, it should be B flat rather than C sharp, they should turn out to be reliable units.
@XCHSTTrent
@XCHSTTrent 10 жыл бұрын
They can't do 250MPH.. There top speed is 125MPH. I don't think you quite know what you're talking about.
@northstar1950
@northstar1950 10 жыл бұрын
Oh I do matey, I do :)
@ishmaelthesaudi1573
@ishmaelthesaudi1573 9 жыл бұрын
northstar1950 They can't do 250MPH so what you said was completely irrelevant.
@railwork2643
@railwork2643 8 жыл бұрын
+Trent Jones 125mph is the max running speed but on a test track who knows jow fast they go
@XCHSTTrent
@XCHSTTrent 8 жыл бұрын
I think they would be able to achieve 140mph because of the general trend of where they operate.
@dglcomputers1498
@dglcomputers1498 4 жыл бұрын
Faults and Failures, yes it's someone's fault that the 180's were ordered now being know that they are a failure! Supposedly the ex-HT units were offered to GWR as part of the latest Direct Award, took them a while to stop laughing before saying no!
@isaactimmins8959
@isaactimmins8959 3 жыл бұрын
poor nieve East Midlands railway I hope the fire services on route were suitabley warned, although considering it took several hours to rescue people from the HST crash I think I'll wait for a 222,
@TheArkamedBat
@TheArkamedBat 3 жыл бұрын
Whow
@theweatherstudio9101
@theweatherstudio9101 2 жыл бұрын
Love the style of information videos from the 90’s/early 2000’s.
@oliverstemp9132
@oliverstemp9132 Жыл бұрын
Very Alan Partridge
@OnlyJoes
@OnlyJoes 11 ай бұрын
Absolutely fantastic engineering to put the toilet heater on the same MCB as the compressor for something equally unimportant like the brakes
@SWTROfficial
@SWTROfficial Күн бұрын
1:17 “you’ll be going nowhere” will be a catchphrase to remember 😂😂
@ShaferProductions
@ShaferProductions 3 жыл бұрын
The Class 180 is a complex state-of-the-art high speed train. Those drivers who already been trained to operate these new trains have found them to be efficient and competent. However, there have been problems, and some failures. Sometimes due to a lack of total familiarity, other times to unexpected technical issues. In this short briefing programme, we’ll look at some of the common faults, and how to rectify them. And in some cases, how to prevent them happening. *Mobilisation* Problems can often begin if you don’t carry out the mobilisation procedure correctly, so let’s start by going through that routine and looking at some of the pitfalls. As you all know, you start the mobilisation procedure from the back cab. If the train is electrically dead, you use the green emergency egress handle to enter this cab. After you pull the handle, and before you slide the door back, reset the handle with your t-key. If you forget to do this, your interlock circuit won’t be made, *_and you’ll be going nowhere._* Once in the cab, get into the habit of making an anti-clockwise check starting behind the right-hand seat. Press the auxiliary *set* button. Now over to the right-hand side wall and check all the key isolation switches are in the vertical position. Also, the emergency brake button. Check the safety systems panel. The top three indicators should be lit. *These will only be lit if the engines have been shut down for less than 20 minutes.* Now move across to the driver position on the left side. Check that the combined power/brake controller is in the *Full Service* position. And that the adjacent emergency brake button is in the *Normal* set position. Check that all MCBs on the back wall panel are set. Now put your key in, and select the *Neutral* position on the FNR switch. Reset the AWS, and press the *Engine Start* button for five seconds. Don’t forget that you must leave at least 30 seconds between setting the auxiliaries and starting the engines. Glance over to the safety systems panel. All four indicators should now be lit. However, this may take up to 90 seconds. If the bottom one is still out, check the *Uncouple* button on the driving desk. If it’s lit, it means that someone has pressed the couple button accidentally, and the unit thinks it’s coupled to another. Press the *Uncouple* button for ten seconds. It should go out, and the bottom indicator on the safety systems panel should light. If it doesn’t, check that the passenger alarm has not been activated. Now, there’s a little trap for the unwary here. Sometimes the catering crew will use an external green emergency egress handle to gain access to the train, and forget to reset it, so, when you walk to the other end, check all the green handles. If necessary, you can now turn the SDO switch, and release the train doors on the platform side. Now turn the FNR switch to *Off*, remove your key, and go to the cab at the other end. While you walk in to the other end, you might hear that one of the engines isn’t running. If time is available trying to restart it by pressing the local engine start button in the 3901 cupboard. It’s next to the *A2* door. Don’t forget to press the all engines start when you get back to the driving cab. If you don’t, the engine you restarted will just idle. Once in the front cab, start by checking exactly the same things as you did in the back cab. Now put your key in, and move the FNR switch to *Neutral* at the same time as pressing the ATP *On* button. Reset the AWS, then do your ATP setup, your radio setup, and log on to the TMS. *Engine trip in 3901 cupboard* You may need to shut an engine down locally at the 3901 cupboard. Don’t use the local engine trip button. It can cause cross-feed problems. Operate the engine isolating switch here instead. If the engine shuts down due to a cooler group fault, this LED will light. You can try resetting by pressing the hydraulic reset button, then the local engine start. Again, don’t forget to press the all engine start when you get back to the driving cab. If you don’t, the engine you restarted will just idle. *Over-speed indicator* If the door release buttons don’t light up when you press them, check that you’ve turned the SDO to the appropriate position. If they still don’t light, check the overspeed indicator. If this is lit, press the auxiliary *Set* button behind you. This should reset the overspeed, and enable you to get a door release. *Compressor Fault* If you can’t maintain proper main reservoir air pressure, go to the *C* car, and check compressor control MCB in the 3901 cupboard, and the main compressor supply MCB in the 4901 cupboard. That’s the one by the *B2* door. If this is okay, check the residual current device MCB. It’s down at the bottom. Try resetting it. If it trips again, try tripping all non-essential MCBs in the cupboard. That’s the toilet heater MCB, the auxiliary transformer MCB, and the air conditioning MCB. Then try resetting the residual current device MCB again. It should stay in this time. Now repeat this procedure in the *E* car. *Toilet air leak* The toilets aboard the Class 180 have an air-operated flush, like those on passenger aircraft. A burst or similar defect in any toilet can result in a loss of main reservoir air pressure. In this case, it will be necessary to locate the toilet in question, and isolate the toilet air supply by closing the red isolation cock in the cupboard behind the WC pedestal. *’Call for aid’ fault* If a call for aid alarm won’t reset, go to the affected coach. Open the 3901 cupboard and trip and reset the COMMS-PASS alarm MCB. This should fix the problem. This is a software issue currently under investigation. *HVAC fault* If the train manager reports complaints from passengers that the heating is excessive in any one coach, the problem could be a jammed thermostat. Place a hand over bodyside heaters, and see if heat is coming from these. If there is, go to the centre of the coach and locate the small cupboard behind the seatbacks. Inside is a green isolation cock. Shut this off, but be careful, it gets very hot. The cab vehicles have only one green cock. The other is a thermostatic type, similar to the ones that you might see at home in a radiator. Do not isolate this one, or any other coloured cocks in this area. *Earth Leakage fault* If an *Earth Leakage* MCB is tripped, and you couple to another unit, the fault will be transferred to that unit. If it trips when you couple to another unit, you can be sure that the fault was on that unit, and has now been transferred to yours. This type of fault can be quite elusive, so try and help the engineers by noting when the earth leakage trips. In other words, what equipment has been activated, or what were you doing when the MCB tripped? If you can report this accurately, it will be a great help to the staff back at the depot. *The Comms. Panel* Here’s a little misunderstanding that’s caught drivers out. When you press the *Talk Back* button on the communications panel, you expect the button to light. It doesn’t. It’s not a fault. It isn’t designed to light up. *Clearing faults on TMS Display* There has been some confusion over the clearing of faults on the TMS after initial bootup. Remember, that each fault has to be cleared separately, one by one. Do this by pressing the *F1* key to acknowledge each fault. Then once all faults have been acknowledged, return to the current fault list, and see which faults are still on the system. *Activation of the Fire Alarm System* If smoke or steam is seen or reported as coming from under one of the coaches, and the fire system is activated, it’s important to stay calm and not to overreact. Don’t evacuate the passengers unnecessarily, especially in an unsafe location. Remember that the system design prevents fire spreading from the underside to the passenger compartments for 30 minutes. You should check whether it’s smoke or steam. It may simply be an engine fault that has caused the automatic firefighting equipment to be activated. If it is, it’s steam you can see as the foam boils away on the hot engine. It has a smell like washing up liquid. If an engine is shut down or it’s cold, the engine preheater will start up in order to keep the heaters warm in the passenger compartment. On starting, the preheater will often cause a puff of smoke to emerge from the vent pipe near the rail. This has caused some alarm to train crews, particularly when the unit is standing at a platform. However, it’s quite normal, and will soon disperse. It poses no fire risk whatever. *Conclusion* The faults and issues we’ve looked at in this programme are mainly the small problems that have cropped up unexpectedly. Many faults can be resolved by simply switching off then on again, just like at home when your computer plays up. Always make sure all doors are closed. On powerup, a two-minute brake system test fools the door into thinking that the train is moving, so be patient. Finally, if you experience a fault, enter as much detail as you can in the unit repair book. For example, if the Public Information System drops out, what code did you enter? What we’ve covered isn’t exhaustive, and of course all known failure situations are covered in the Class 180 driver manual, or published traction bulletins. If you have any comments on the content of this programme, have a word with your standard manager. *Produced for* *First Great Western* *by Spa Films* *©️MMIII*
@rog1957
@rog1957 3 жыл бұрын
wow its like an airbus to start up
@theweatherstudio9101
@theweatherstudio9101 2 жыл бұрын
@@rog1957 I know so complicated just use a pacer instead LOL.
@tadetayo61
@tadetayo61 2 жыл бұрын
I remember you!
@basiltaylor8910
@basiltaylor8910 10 ай бұрын
Er yes , did you ask said drivers how many Ketamine or Benzo tablets they had for breakfast.
@basiltaylor8910
@basiltaylor8910 10 ай бұрын
For C----t sake I want the damn train to start and run!! is that too much to ask!!,am not Brains from Thunderbirds. Old Met Camm 101,s were easy press the starter warm up the 680,s check fuel and oil levels , coolant and brake pressure she,s ready to run.
@Marcho978
@Marcho978 Жыл бұрын
Thank you! Very cool! I was just trying to figure out how to drive my Adelante from the local dealer!
@trainsgb
@trainsgb 3 жыл бұрын
1:17 "you'll be going nowhere!"
@theweatherstudio9101
@theweatherstudio9101 2 жыл бұрын
At 8:35 he started talking about cocks. Couldn’t help but giggle slightly. 🤭
@TheArkamedBat
@TheArkamedBat 2 жыл бұрын
@@theweatherstudio9101 Class 442, famous for its isolating cocks
@bakedbeanishdragon
@bakedbeanishdragon 9 жыл бұрын
0:20 "...efficient and competent. However, they are squeaky."
@magicfurballz
@magicfurballz 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah why do new trains have very squeaky wheels like the pacer
@FarmYard-Trains
@FarmYard-Trains 4 ай бұрын
I genuinely thought that was a horror movie suspense effect
@wewillrockyou1986
@wewillrockyou1986 3 жыл бұрын
1:28 look at the rust around the door!
@toby070
@toby070 9 жыл бұрын
You know, if I decided to travel by rail and discover that my train is this class of engine, I would now say "Scrap it! I'm takin' the cab".
@FarmYard-Trains
@FarmYard-Trains 4 ай бұрын
I'd genuinely rather walk
@ec8451
@ec8451 4 жыл бұрын
I feel like this guy has become a meme
@SprinterPlayz
@SprinterPlayz 10 ай бұрын
“If the TMS says that the train’s going to Leeds, turn it off and on again. We don’t go there. We aren’t called First North Eastern.”
@eastlancsmyllenniumlowland6153
@eastlancsmyllenniumlowland6153 4 жыл бұрын
1:17 YOU'LL BE GOING NOWHERE LOL
@win7sony
@win7sony 12 жыл бұрын
His name is Paul Tyreman. I am not sure of his position at first but he used to work for NSE
@TheArkamedBat
@TheArkamedBat 3 жыл бұрын
He used to go to nowhere
@stained36
@stained36 4 жыл бұрын
1:18 yes its a masterpiece
@DexterPlayz_Productions
@DexterPlayz_Productions 3 жыл бұрын
1:17*
@PottersVideos2
@PottersVideos2 6 жыл бұрын
4:55 I do hope that isn't the default passcode
@Danse_Macabre_125
@Danse_Macabre_125 2 жыл бұрын
I hope it IS
@edjhunmangubat7587
@edjhunmangubat7587 3 жыл бұрын
1:17 “You’ll be going nowhere”
@mikecartlidge5355
@mikecartlidge5355 2 жыл бұрын
For many year First Hull Trains ran a small fleet of 180's, during this time I have had many Hull To London Kings Cross trips were passengers have had to travel to Doncaster via Northern Rail and change to another service provider to reach London due to 180's failing for one reason or another. As a passenger I am glad to see the back of the 1980's, I believe Grand First Central now have them.......good luck.
@CosgroveNotts
@CosgroveNotts 4 жыл бұрын
Never had this trouble with peddle and push carriages on the Leeds to Hudders line. Less walking backwards and forwards too lol
@mikaelhemlingberg3695
@mikaelhemlingberg3695 4 жыл бұрын
1:17 you’ll be going nowhere
@oliverbrelsford5472
@oliverbrelsford5472 4 жыл бұрын
That immortal line.
@hesterclapp9717
@hesterclapp9717 3 жыл бұрын
The earth leakage fault is kind of like an STI
@TheThecyclist
@TheThecyclist 8 жыл бұрын
"hello IT have you tried turning it off and on again?"
@realpugking5324
@realpugking5324 6 жыл бұрын
IT crowd 😂
@MrWhite-pn7ui
@MrWhite-pn7ui 9 жыл бұрын
11:48 "It poses no fire risk. Whatever..."
@alexsbikesandmotors
@alexsbikesandmotors 8 жыл бұрын
should be whatsoever
@wendytrueman4478
@wendytrueman4478 6 жыл бұрын
Mr. White b.hfmn
@RWL2012
@RWL2012 5 жыл бұрын
it's probably just a more obscure way of saying it
@splatinumm
@splatinumm 3 жыл бұрын
funny thing is
@splatinumm
@splatinumm 3 жыл бұрын
Hull Trains adelente had a fire...
@EnterStationNameHere
@EnterStationNameHere 3 жыл бұрын
im used to watching YTPs of this to the point where this is weird
@TheArkamedBat
@TheArkamedBat 3 жыл бұрын
Hey ESNH!
@EnterStationNameHere
@EnterStationNameHere 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheArkamedBat hey
@liamw-89
@liamw-89 6 жыл бұрын
How to rectify any fault with Adelante: replace them with Class 800s :D
@KaiDiesAgain
@KaiDiesAgain 4 жыл бұрын
EW CLASS 800s
@tp175
@tp175 4 жыл бұрын
or the 175's
@KaiDiesAgain
@KaiDiesAgain 4 жыл бұрын
@@tp175 thatsa downgrade
@imtiazrahman1977
@imtiazrahman1977 4 жыл бұрын
They're already colonising most of the network ;-;
@oliverbrelsford5472
@oliverbrelsford5472 4 жыл бұрын
@@KaiDiesAgain have you seen their acceleration? They are amazing, futuristic trains.
@Samuel-dd7fi
@Samuel-dd7fi 7 жыл бұрын
Damn dat music
@hesterclapp9717
@hesterclapp9717 3 жыл бұрын
I seem to remember the coaches are numbered F to B, F being the front and B the back
@timosha21
@timosha21 3 жыл бұрын
Choo choo! I'm a train and I approve this video! 🚂
@darylyatestransportblogs
@darylyatestransportblogs 8 жыл бұрын
Just an over complicated design by Alstom as the ATW 175s that are like the 180s also had lots of problems when they were new although they seem pretty reliable now im not sure if the 180s are any better now but its a shame they were problematic as I feel that they are one of the best DMUs out there as they are roomy and very comfy
@RWL2012
@RWL2012 6 жыл бұрын
seems to depend on the leaseholder. FirstGroup seem to insist on running these trains (Classes 180 ad 175) "as designed" (First Great Western 2012 engine faults, and Hull Trains 2018 fires) whereas Arriva UK Trains (Grand Central and previously Arriva Trains Wales) seem to modify them / disable certain non-critical unreliable features (such as the retarders, braking performance still meets the legal standard with them disabled)
@darrencafferty
@darrencafferty 10 жыл бұрын
Class 180 Faults and Failures, how long have you got :) Nice Vid
@gdwizzie848
@gdwizzie848 11 жыл бұрын
Why do the drivers not use checklists like pilots?
@FerroequinologistofColorado
@FerroequinologistofColorado 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve wondered the same thing
@jamesheath4845
@jamesheath4845 11 ай бұрын
The Class 180 is the Chrysler PT Cruiser of trains.
@brunoignaciogi
@brunoignaciogi 10 жыл бұрын
0:10 oh REALLY, state of the art? the title says "Faults And Failures" so, it isn't any state of any art 7:10 so if i flush the toilet, i make the train break!
@tread0carefully
@tread0carefully 10 жыл бұрын
If you have a main res leak, you will struggle to charge the braking system.
@AkomishTiddies
@AkomishTiddies 10 жыл бұрын
At least, you're not throwing a crowbar into the toilet. There is a more or less funny belief that if you do it while riding an old train where waste is dropped directly on the tracks, it will derail.
@gwrdriver1660
@gwrdriver1660 6 жыл бұрын
These videos are training videos, they show us all possible faults, you don't see all of these faults all the time. I drove these for several years before they got moved to Hull Trains, I didn't get many problems, I've had more failures and problems on the Hitachi 800s in the short time we've had them than I ever had with 180s. I call 800s 180 GLS.
@lekoman
@lekoman 4 жыл бұрын
SDB It boggles the mind that the toilets would be on the same air system as the brakes.
@buksi6342
@buksi6342 4 жыл бұрын
Well, the 180 is a state of the art washing up liquid, so you can’t expect that much from it.
@DaveDVideoMaker
@DaveDVideoMaker 4 жыл бұрын
8:36 Inside is a green isolation coq. Shut this off. But be careful, it gets very hot. The cab vehicles have only one green coq; the other is a thermostatic type, similar to the ones that you might see at home on a radiator. Do not isolate this one, or any other coloured cox in this area.
@TheArkamedBat
@TheArkamedBat 3 жыл бұрын
There are more cox in a 442 than on the 180.
@DaveDVideoMaker
@DaveDVideoMaker 3 жыл бұрын
There are 69 of them shown in the 1988 training video. In this faults and failures video, there were only 4 shown.
@Transportman211
@Transportman211 4 жыл бұрын
Coronavirus: YoU bE GoINg NoWhErE
@TheArkamedBat
@TheArkamedBat 3 жыл бұрын
This is what happens if you drink 180 Corona beer bottles
@Transportman211
@Transportman211 3 жыл бұрын
LAMO 🤣🤣
@navymikeh
@navymikeh 9 жыл бұрын
conclusion....too many faults
@ACTractionLTD
@ACTractionLTD 12 жыл бұрын
Proberly is, but like i said, all rolling stock is plagued with some kind of fault or failure
@TheArkamedBat
@TheArkamedBat 3 жыл бұрын
The 50% of my failure experiences are in a Class 180
@davidhoughton2073
@davidhoughton2073 3 жыл бұрын
WHy is it called a "3901 cupboard" rather than say "car maintenance panel" or something? It's almost like the manufacturer wants it to be complicated.
@ericssmith2014
@ericssmith2014 2 жыл бұрын
I certainly hope they gave the poor drivers a map. It's all an amazing mixture of obscure tricks (like knowing which sets of numbered circuit breakers are "non-essential") and band-aid solutions (like the button with the red decal marked DO NOT USE). "Well, for pity's sake, Gareth, you've only been resetting the main auxiliary in 3109 instead of the auxiliary main in 3901! No wonder the reading lights don't work."
@lukedavis436
@lukedavis436 Жыл бұрын
I'd compare the class 180 to a car They're basically the rail version of a Range Rover P38
@Slaithyte
@Slaithyte 7 ай бұрын
😂😂 amazing ​@@lukedavis436
@thisis_mudchute
@thisis_mudchute 22 күн бұрын
i think A2 cupboard is best because it's next to the A2 door
@DavidMurphy-g8x
@DavidMurphy-g8x 10 ай бұрын
1:17 YOUUL BEE GOING NOWARE!
@inkyscrolls5193
@inkyscrolls5193 7 жыл бұрын
And I thought prepping a kettle (steam loco to the uninitiated) was complicated!
@ShockwaveTheLogical
@ShockwaveTheLogical Жыл бұрын
2:27 Oh that brought back memories of Train Sim 🙂
@CoffieVerkeert
@CoffieVerkeert 12 жыл бұрын
Why not?? Not all customers are just non-technical consumers :)
@mroscar323_6
@mroscar323_6 3 жыл бұрын
it feels weird watching this after watching the ytp
@radon1221
@radon1221 3 жыл бұрын
it's a spiritual experience 😂
@johnniebj
@johnniebj 12 жыл бұрын
Now First Hull Trains has some of these units. Their reliability record is terrible.
@drt4699
@drt4699 11 жыл бұрын
No fault can be made worse by hitting it repeatedly with a large hammer.
@DaveDVideoMaker
@DaveDVideoMaker 4 жыл бұрын
2:29 and 4:41 Reset the AWS - Paul Tyreman.
@TheArkamedBat
@TheArkamedBat 3 жыл бұрын
1:17
@DaveDVideoMaker
@DaveDVideoMaker 3 жыл бұрын
That is not the AWS part.
@TheArkamedBat
@TheArkamedBat 3 жыл бұрын
@@DaveDVideoMaker I'm here for this
@DaveDVideoMaker
@DaveDVideoMaker 3 жыл бұрын
I know you’re so obsessed with this meme.
@DaveDVideoMaker
@DaveDVideoMaker Жыл бұрын
@JacksTrains. Jebiga…
@TheBrickGuy7939
@TheBrickGuy7939 2 жыл бұрын
A prime example of looks aren't everything.
@johnwilkes5044
@johnwilkes5044 Жыл бұрын
As long as there's a smell of washing up liquid, I'm good. It's the impending sense of the rolling pin that disturbs me...
@Jamieson1872
@Jamieson1872 3 жыл бұрын
9:53 A bit of attitude there.
@jackraine8736
@jackraine8736 3 жыл бұрын
Oh all the memes I could make out of this video
@TheArkamedBat
@TheArkamedBat 3 жыл бұрын
The Class 180 is a CoC Front cab You'll be going nowhere No ideas lol
@c151b
@c151b 8 ай бұрын
You'll be going nowhere. 🚫 1:17
@palexandersquires
@palexandersquires 12 жыл бұрын
There is so much to do before driveing these trains can`t you fit an auto diagnosis computer that checks the trains automaticly for faults .
@Planespotting_with_Hazz
@Planespotting_with_Hazz 2 жыл бұрын
1:17 the moment weve come here for
@Class43_HST
@Class43_HST Жыл бұрын
1:14 The infamous part we all know and love
@randomguy8056
@randomguy8056 4 жыл бұрын
What if the Residual Current Device is the cause of the Compressor fault and its a hot summer? are all the passengers gonna be screwed with no A/C?
@TheArkamedBat
@TheArkamedBat 3 жыл бұрын
Yes,but people aren't going nowhere
@Great_WesternTVFan
@Great_WesternTVFan 3 жыл бұрын
I remember watching this videos as a kid. The memories
@milkandduckrailway323
@milkandduckrailway323 5 жыл бұрын
Where is the GWR IEP Faults and Failiures?
@ben.taylor
@ben.taylor 4 жыл бұрын
You'd REALLY be going nowhere on that one...
@milkandduckrailway323
@milkandduckrailway323 4 жыл бұрын
wasnt there that case with the sea wall spray dawlish
@RF_765
@RF_765 3 жыл бұрын
Not made yet
@stephendines1936
@stephendines1936 6 жыл бұрын
Train Manager? They are guards.
@RWL2012
@RWL2012 6 жыл бұрын
then there's "conductor"
@onlinefriend3889
@onlinefriend3889 Жыл бұрын
​@@RWL2012And what used to be passengers, are now 'customers'.
@karlr42
@karlr42 12 жыл бұрын
he's just an actor apparently, he's in a few other videos on KZbin for Connex and NSE.
@antoy384
@antoy384 6 жыл бұрын
Sometimes I’m worried this is on youtube. Like, their guidebook is so messy that putting the training on youtube is easier. « If you have an FNR problem, log on youtube.com and ... »
@grange247
@grange247 6 жыл бұрын
I believe he did miss the Frigg check after switching the overload cock switch to purple . School boy error I suppose. Very common on these units.
@thisis_mudchute
@thisis_mudchute Ай бұрын
dont mind me, just coming back every few months to hear 'youll be going nowhere'
@ACTractionLTD
@ACTractionLTD 12 жыл бұрын
rail net channel is the best place to look
@thisis_mudchute
@thisis_mudchute Ай бұрын
1:14 if you forget to do this, your interlock circuit wont be made, and _you'll be going nowhere_
@Uftonwood2
@Uftonwood2 3 жыл бұрын
A check list would be helpful.
@KMdonatestuntguy
@KMdonatestuntguy Жыл бұрын
Welcome aboard this first great western railway service to london padding we will be calling at (*engine turns off and everything is out of power*)
@supermarionathan1426
@supermarionathan1426 3 жыл бұрын
This people is why you never contract Alstom to build any Diesel locomotives or DMUs because they’re literally crap at it! Only contract Alstom if you want them to build Electric locomotives or EMUs because they’re better with those!
@alijanlondon
@alijanlondon 11 жыл бұрын
I think the main fault is that it was built in the first place (no pun intended)
@TheArkamedBat
@TheArkamedBat 3 жыл бұрын
Because the Class 180 is a failure
@ejcmoorhouse
@ejcmoorhouse 12 жыл бұрын
isn't the 180 one of those modern "locomotives have no place on the railway anymore" trains.
@stephand4017
@stephand4017 4 жыл бұрын
4:50 WHY is the Train Management Systen code 12345???
@JimbobsTransportVideos
@JimbobsTransportVideos 4 жыл бұрын
I think it’s for the training
@sniffadoghq
@sniffadoghq 4 жыл бұрын
For training
@droge192
@droge192 4 жыл бұрын
David Camerson's gone up in the world.
@anthonyxuereb792
@anthonyxuereb792 3 жыл бұрын
It appears that there is a lot to know to make you competent and if you aren't up to the task it's going to cause a lot of delays.
@lrjtherailwayguy
@lrjtherailwayguy 2 жыл бұрын
"Reset the AWS" don't they like already know what to do when the AWS comes on
@oliverstemp9132
@oliverstemp9132 Жыл бұрын
Why is there a button that you can’t press 😂. It sounds like these trains were designed just to wind up the crews 😂
@jonc4686
@jonc4686 4 жыл бұрын
Does the driver then get a chance to drive the train? What time does he sign in before departure? How many unit repair books do they have? What the **** is a Standards Manager these days? Honestly, modern railways.
@jamiesheppard6722
@jamiesheppard6722 5 жыл бұрын
Cool video
@brownboybilly
@brownboybilly 12 жыл бұрын
Yeah. Them Taleboons might get hold of it. God, whatever next. Video's of how to change a Spark Plug?
@v1rotate349
@v1rotate349 Жыл бұрын
Why have videos about on-the-go train repair started appearing in my recommendations?
@DexterPlayz_Productions
@DexterPlayz_Productions 3 жыл бұрын
1:17 the ‘You’ll be going nowhere’ meme.
@TrenoRegionaleVeloce
@TrenoRegionaleVeloce 3 жыл бұрын
“You’ll be going nowhere”
@chefblanc
@chefblanc 12 жыл бұрын
wouldnt it be better just to have a on/off switch and a throttle and be done with it..
@ACTractionLTD
@ACTractionLTD 12 жыл бұрын
Nah not really, faults and failures happen on most rolling stock
@GB-lg2cz
@GB-lg2cz 8 жыл бұрын
if all fails get a hammer and a large gin and tonic
@marcuspotter5590
@marcuspotter5590 8 жыл бұрын
I see what you did there! You'd may as well get hammered and sickled because in Soviet Russia train drive YOU!!
@felenov
@felenov 3 жыл бұрын
4:52 I REALLY hope this is NOT the password in use.
@Danse_Macabre_125
@Danse_Macabre_125 2 жыл бұрын
I like to think it is, just to make drivers' lives easier
@nikerailfanningttm9046
@nikerailfanningttm9046 Жыл бұрын
7:37 *”LOCATE THE TOILET IN QUESTION AND ISOLATE IT AS THE SHIT IN THE BOWL IS TOO STIFF TO FLUSH AND WILL BREAK THE BOWL IF YOU ATTEMPT TO FLUSH IT.”*
@CadanHartleyElliott
@CadanHartleyElliott 4 ай бұрын
1:17 The famous four-word phrase.
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