Javed Akhtar, Shazia Omar, Tabish Khair and Mudar Patherya on the triple challenge of Islamophobia, stereotypes and radicalisation. In conversation with Mir Afsar Ali. Day three, January 27, 2017, Victoria Memorial, Kolkata.
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@jitinsharma81937 жыл бұрын
Javed Akhtar starts at 29:08
@ZaiidHamid6 жыл бұрын
I guess Javed Akhtar is allowed to get away with bullshit because he is Javed Akhtar. No Hindutva ideologue, RSS or even the fringe has ever said that Muslims are outsiders. Almost all of them argue that Indian Muslims are indigenous to India who were converted forcefully, hence the label "ghar wapasi". It is the Muslims who have an identity problem - some of them actually believe they might be descendants of Arabs! Very few Muslims actually converted because of the caste system. It might have happened in the case of Christianity or Buddhism but not Islam. Islam spread because of the sword, not because of its own Islamic ideas or caste system in Hinduism. There is no evidence to support Akhtar's outrageous claims. So many historians in the audience and not one corrected him.
@Manishkumar-el5bw6 жыл бұрын
Jitin Sharma thanks
@brijensheth0076 жыл бұрын
best comment.. thanks..
@napoleanthgrt5 жыл бұрын
Thnx bhai
@shashankethane5 жыл бұрын
@@ZaiidHamid he said the exact same thing
@msandiip30337 жыл бұрын
"We should become secular not because we are very good people but we should become secular because that's the matter of our survival" - Javed Akhtar.
@pirrupdki49485 жыл бұрын
Summary of the debate 👍
@Rohan-wn4nw4 жыл бұрын
Very true👍
@ajayaudimulapu81034 жыл бұрын
The fighters ran themselves to extinction, and the peacemakers are living and propagating
@beahumanbeingfirst3 жыл бұрын
Really javed aktar? Then why not all the Islamic country around the world become secular when there are muslims in majority??? India is secular because muslims are not in majority. We are all aware the doctrine of al taqiya in quran and also know your pseudo nature and hypocrisy very well jabed aktar.
@RAIRADIO3 жыл бұрын
Well we survived 5000 years of a multicultural society with flourishing diversity of language, beliefs, customs, arts, science, theism and atheism without being secular. Unless secularism means separation of religion from education and politics and only means unlimited freedom for all religions to do whatever they want, it's not a matter of survival but a matter of future anarchy.
@rajneeeesh2 жыл бұрын
Javed Akhtar has Clarity of thoughts. And he knows how to convey his message.
@vobadal7 жыл бұрын
Javed Akhtar must start a podcast video channel for his views!
@navalfa72912 жыл бұрын
Bro he is historically inaccurate.
@VivekKumar-fg4qc2 жыл бұрын
@@navalfa7291 how can u elaborate
@AmitKumar-bm9nw3 ай бұрын
Listening to Javed sahab is always pleasure
@2sridhark7 жыл бұрын
Amazing wit by Javed sahib at 31:45: "you are a Shia, don't worry. Nobody is perfect!"
@nundpelladoah34125 жыл бұрын
All religions are man made. Some to harmonise society, some to manipulate .Mr Akhtar has given the best analysis.
@siddhanti5 жыл бұрын
The writer whose name Javed Akhtar is forgetting is Audrey Truschke who has written about Sanskrit in Mughal Durbar
@mem10019533 жыл бұрын
I guess that you are young. When you catch up with ageing, you will realize about...forgetting as a natural happening.
@dastagirda3 жыл бұрын
Every muslim should follow Javed akhtar. His thoughts will broaden their minds.
@yashsandhu83665 жыл бұрын
Criticism of Islam or any other religious doctrine is not any phobia
@yashsandhu83665 жыл бұрын
Islamisation & arabisation of any place takes humanity, culture & civilization of it.
@randomthought2026 Жыл бұрын
And hinduisation too.
@ashwanimalhotra87657 жыл бұрын
A big woww! for Javed Akthar
@randomthought2026 Жыл бұрын
I wish we could have these kind of discussion in news rooms.
@tonyromeusa5 жыл бұрын
very thought stirring presentation by javed saheb. i wish him all the best, health, and happiness for all years.
@yogiagravat17485 жыл бұрын
Superb speech by Javed Akhtar. Very good thoughts.
@SandeepKulshrestha2 жыл бұрын
Mudar Patherya waa brilliant as well.
@deepakkumar199324 жыл бұрын
i am sure there is none other than javed a great scholar and deep knowlege in bollywood
@mohdshafishah3124 Жыл бұрын
The more I listen to him the more I become his ardant fan. He has deep insight into history, art, culture , religions apart from his trademark profession viz screen writer, lyricist. Above all he talks sense.
@DeepakJAT00078 ай бұрын
Javed sahab completely turned the tables and exposed the hypocrisy of both sides !
@anandpandey99885 жыл бұрын
Mir is very likeable host, good job bro 👍
@512prashasti6 жыл бұрын
Shazia Omar makes some good points but all that smiling while telling a terrifying tale of terrorism is a bit off.
@rajadhirajmaharaj3 жыл бұрын
Yoga KZbinrs are like that only. In 27:00 we can see her promoting herself. Good for her. I searched her channel. She goes by *"Shazzy Om"* 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@munirdin35986 жыл бұрын
javed sahib you are a great human being.
@samsuperantiques99583 жыл бұрын
No doubt
@manshimishra16244 жыл бұрын
Listing again 😊😊😊
@nuruddinhossain18705 жыл бұрын
I am a big fan of Shazia Omar.I read her book ' like a diamond in the sky'.
@ABhattacharya3 жыл бұрын
Agree with Akhtar. Do you all realize he and Swamy said the same things from different vantage point?
@SheikhFaisalBinAabul6 жыл бұрын
Lots of love for you Shazia Omar
@MKS21D5 жыл бұрын
Who all got a weird surprise at 11:00 😂
@finalyearstudent5086 Жыл бұрын
44:15 he's talking about which book?
@vaayu54415 жыл бұрын
Javed Akhtar is a "Atheist" who thinks like a pro Muslim ;)
@idontcarei5 жыл бұрын
which sentence???
@SurgicalStrike2.03 жыл бұрын
Agree
@idontcarei5 жыл бұрын
JAVED AKHTAR ....AMAZING AS USUAL ...HE IS BRILLIANT ..I recently came to know that he is atheist ...my respect increased 10 folds
@beahumanbeingfirst3 жыл бұрын
Jabed aktar is a hypocrite and the world does know about his hypocrisy very well. If he's a real atheist despite maintaining the name jabed then he would have been killed by now by the fatwa of any Islamic mulla as per quranic cult. Jabed aktar married two women as per islamic law within India without divorcing anyone of them. Does all of this still make you think he's an atheist???
@adwaitab.36223 жыл бұрын
@@beahumanbeingfirst he didn't marry two women at once. Also he's an atheist and has repeatedly criticized Islamic extremism as well. I suggest you take a look at his work than making assumptions.
@roshankamble38633 жыл бұрын
@@adwaitab.3622 True
@user-oc2nq5cd2z Жыл бұрын
When Javedji was speaking and everytime the anchor raised his mike to interrupt, I wanted to snatch it away.
@ibaadathali86793 жыл бұрын
Awesome debate, revield many facts .....
@jaideepc786 Жыл бұрын
Agree with every word & statement of Javed Akhtar.. Just mirroring the minds of million of Hindus, who want to decide themselves how much religion to practice. I can be religious without attending Holi public gatherings and indulging in environmental pollution by burning dry leaves & branches in enclosed city dwellings, where O2 is so precious, without going to temples.and listening to mumblings in strange vedic languages, without understanding a single word, removing footwear for the sake of it, when your bare foot may be more unhygienic than the PVC or leather footwear you are wearing. Society is full of religious hippocrats.
@_The_Alchemist_3 жыл бұрын
@1:00:00 I guess Javed Akhtar missed the question. Questioner asked in terms of increasing population and not the increasing religiosity. Well, as he said, no body is perfect.
@rnilu867 жыл бұрын
Proud of you Javed Akhter.
@diwakarmishra33507 жыл бұрын
Nilu Roy proud of because of his caste theory in islam and aryan invasion theory ??
@pinkpasa2634 Жыл бұрын
❤
@doctorjee4 жыл бұрын
Loved Mudar Patherya's section...
@vinayakkapatral42462 жыл бұрын
I choose intellect…. Javed is very clear!
@kailashkanoria23834 ай бұрын
Wow, what a speech by Javed Sir... its true that more than 90% of indian muslims are converts, but still either they don't know their historical lineage or are ashamed to tell them
@_The_Alchemist_3 жыл бұрын
The host was amazing.
@spuriusscapula4829 Жыл бұрын
Very fresh perspective!
@headlinesnavin5 жыл бұрын
Brilliant anchoring by Mir. Good discussion. This world would become a better place if we were all agnostics. The first world countries are increasingly giving women recognition and more and more people are getting away from church. The problem with india is Hindus believe in nonsensical rituals, astrology etc. Muslims are also devout unwilling to question. Religion is not good for human development. Spiritualism maybe yes. Buddhism doesn’t say my religion is superior to yours. Note to Mr Javed Akhtar. All religions doesn’t say my religion is better than yours.
@msandiip30335 жыл бұрын
Self paradoxical term, if all religious people does not say "my religion better than yours" then why you (the religious person) are part of that religion? Think about it. I am sure you are capable of finding the answer.
@muhammadsalmanbutt85343 жыл бұрын
@55:42.... i think javed sab meant Salman Khan.
@ProfRavenSteel4 жыл бұрын
I wonder what most people in comment section think of Javed now. I wish they could see now the one sided secularism of Javed. Anyway, have a nice day.✌️
@GregorSamsa9963 жыл бұрын
A very good discussion
@faiz1065 жыл бұрын
Superb literary meet
@RAIRADIO3 жыл бұрын
Well we survived 5000 years of a multicultural society with flourishing diversity of language, beliefs, customs, arts, science, theism and atheism without being secular. Unless secularism means separation of religion from education and politics and foreign funding, and only means unlimited freedom for all religions to do whatever they want, it's not a matter of survival but a matter of future anarchy.
@SurgicalStrike2.03 жыл бұрын
41:55 When it comes to name bad person from Hindu community they have only one name - Nathu Ram Godse. On the other hand we have thousand of such names.
@71espn2 жыл бұрын
Yup mobs don't have names.
@Agnidev125 жыл бұрын
I like speeches of Javed. I also believe if God exists he/ she/ it does not reveal to anyone, does not give any brownie points for good behaviour nor subtract any for bad one, nor commands Jihad, nor orders conquests of land & women of unbelievers, nor condones slavery/ sex slavery, nor promises 72 virgins in after life Unfortunately in life one has to select lesser of 2 or more evils. I do agree any absolutism is bad. But RSS is not as bad as Islamist is bad. I like what Javed does & I wish everyone was like him. Democracy is a reasonable compromise. In any democracy it is perfectly rational position not wanting to live under Islamic precepts & Sharia law which are against human & women rights & rights of minorities ie homosexuals & women. It is not phobia & can not be classified as a some kind of mental illness & labelled as such. People who want to take part in a civilised discussion should not classify opinion of their opponent as phobia. They should take it with reason, fact & logic. People including Muslims are afraid of Jihad or misogyny. Would you call it Islamophobia because it is against Muhammad’s Sunna the Gold standard practice of Islam for any Muslim.
@arijit0205 жыл бұрын
what happened to Salman Rushdie, why wasnt he invited.
@humbleforest3 жыл бұрын
Dear Global Friends, Mind...thoughts Eyes... sights Ears... hearing Mouth.. tastes Nose... smell Body... feelings These six senses inwhich human beings possess is the best overall vehicle to seek for the original truth of their original pureself. Morality is the best remedy to purify these six senses without which no matter how intelligent one is wearing one's crown of the highest intellect of the mundane world one will not be able to comprehend the spiritual knowledge of the universe and beyond, and because of one's limited knowledge one is being blocked by one's egoism, haughtiness or any slightest iota of tangible and intangible thoughts of this mundane world. All these impurities must be fully purified. Later all to be detached from the mundane world of the six desires and seductions. Human beings have better opportunity than the divinities we pray as a respect but they don't have the six senses to cultivate to reach their realm of non rebirth. They need human beings co-operation in working together to achieve their destination. Human minds are like monkey minds jumping about with unstable thoughts, hard to calm down. That's why it needs calmness and stillness meditation as what Indian called yoga meditation. The rest are physical exercises in various forms as not to spoil our health with sicknesses. If not we will be unable to achieve our mind, body and soul in unison to gain enlightenment. That's why health plays an important role. Thank you for the sharing and with love to all beings.
@bettysahadeo41693 жыл бұрын
Om Shani to the Muslim bhai. U are a great humanitarian. I myself am a hindu but was raised by a Muslim family wen my left this world wen I was only 8mths old. So yes in the old days we were all one. Love tyour thought process. Hoping for world peace
@PRAKSHAM_MANSOOR3 жыл бұрын
56:48 See what happens in the background.
@jamshedhumd2 жыл бұрын
Hahahaha
@mukeshprashar43965 жыл бұрын
Stage design is good craft
@totamaina59695 жыл бұрын
Shaaziya.. Good speech
@pahadi_boi Жыл бұрын
The person in the back, mast majje mai
@rounakbhattacharjee87145 жыл бұрын
Mudar pathreya has a great realistic approach!
@balu5084 жыл бұрын
I liked thought of all the members onnoanels. Their intention for origreessivev society is very fine. I emphasise Govt shud offer security to Mr. Javed Akhtar. He shud also be invited to courts police officers n men to enlightened them as he has clear picture about Muslim of India
@rajadhirajmaharaj3 жыл бұрын
44:45 True AF.
@sknandiphy6 жыл бұрын
Always pleasure to listen Javed shahaab!!!
@kabitabhaumik58292 жыл бұрын
Sorry. Not our views at all.
@harrisonford7184 жыл бұрын
Javed akhtar 🙏🙏 🙏❤️
@Kausarniyazee2 жыл бұрын
love how they decorated the front of stage with flowers only to keep it open behind for us to see random people walking and languishing there :-D
@indianindian9335 жыл бұрын
38:41 vhp knows😂😂😂😂
@4698u6 жыл бұрын
Javed Sahib has talked a lot of sense.
@CD-1235 жыл бұрын
You are stupid
@Versatileabhi2 жыл бұрын
55:30 was that bhoi reference ?😂😂😂..
@victorbose6699 Жыл бұрын
Even i think so.....😅
@2010671222535 жыл бұрын
Javed bhai, I am a big fan, when I take over India you are going to be the PM, I am an atheist too, you are more Indian than most Hindus
@83abhinavnigam5 жыл бұрын
Are bhai ethiests ki community banaao . Hum log ko empowerment ki zaroorat hai
on a lighter note shazia marine le pen is also woman...
@princesingh831211 ай бұрын
❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤,love for Javed sir, love you sir 😍😍😍
@manshimishra16244 жыл бұрын
This was one man show , my favourite Javed Akhtar .
@Arunsingh-fi2yw Жыл бұрын
Proud hindu But totally stand for India history Secularism etc
@FitnessFreak271 Жыл бұрын
Javed Akhtar Saab woo!
@thekillerab82325 жыл бұрын
I agree everything with javed saab except saddan hussain and gadfafi part he said
@SurgicalStrike2.03 жыл бұрын
Javed Sahab apni khud ki duniya me rehte hain.
@manojkumarpal97565 жыл бұрын
Javed Saab.... Tusssssii Greattttt hoooo....
@himanshuzaveri47325 жыл бұрын
Javed akhtar is best. Rest are just vesting time talking off topics. Waste of time with others including the coordinator to start with!!
@marigowda73662 жыл бұрын
Shazia Omar talks more sensibly.
@keshab6445 жыл бұрын
Javed Akhtar a diamond of India and everybody in the world
@kabitabhaumik58292 жыл бұрын
What happened to Javed's admiration for Taliban? Why is he still here? He is one of the worst takers. Between him & his wife, they have raised their status with 5+ National awards from the GoI, but when they reached the end of their career, they are furiously exhibiting their anti national views and incitements. They did not follow Jinnah to Pakistan, but chose to enjoy the shelters of Hindus of Hindustan. Now spitting venoms at Hindus. Ashamed of such.
@kabitabhaumik58292 жыл бұрын
Shazia👍👍
@kabitabhaumik58292 жыл бұрын
Most muslims in . are takers rather than doers or givers. Well said.The typical victim card😱😱 We need more like you, positive impact!!
@kabitabhaumik58292 жыл бұрын
The Muslim angle of Bollywood culture ????😱😱😱
@kabitabhaumik58292 жыл бұрын
Javed to malignant ho chuka, does he realize that?
@fayazkhan17293 жыл бұрын
He says all this only on stages but remind him deep within he is a cruel selfish man .. u shud v asked Amjad khan and Rishi Kapoor how vain this guy was in the 70s
@keshav36933 жыл бұрын
Jawed shahab always awesome ❤️
@merrillkhan70672 жыл бұрын
Awesome!!
@Septemberhello11 ай бұрын
Well taught the other bacchas sitting here
@aquiline-m1590 Жыл бұрын
56:41 सबसे इम्पॉर्टंट डिस्कशन टाइम पर जावेद साहब के पीछे एक आदमी सिगरेट जला रहा है. 🧐
@sugatabose36915 ай бұрын
Javed Akhtar has taken too much of the time, almost the whole of it, reducing other panelists to being mere audience to his seemingly never-ending oration. This is terribly unfair, a one-sided affair that has reduced a panel discussion to a monlogue, however stimulating in intellectual content it may have been. Javed Akhtar has even of the cuff taken undue precedence in answering questions from the audience. It seems he has had a mistaken notion of the Meet and has taken it to be 'Javed Akhtar Literary Meet'. Moderation by Mir ought to have taken care of this unseemly anomaly. The audience has been thus deprived of a possible second or even third round of rollicking rolling discussion that would have added flavour to the Meet. In actual effect such a possibility has been waylaid by a single speaker of much knowledge that despite it has made a mockery of a Meet. Such self-centring of group discussion literally should not be allowed at a literary meet.
@vijaygovind21342 ай бұрын
52:10 Islamophobia is created from inside the (Muslim) community by people who want to control their community.
@rajadhirajmaharaj3 жыл бұрын
27:00 ব-goal 😂😜😝
@supriyoghosh65335 жыл бұрын
And Javed Akhtar calls himself an Atheist!!!!
@rahulgoswami36912 жыл бұрын
Grow up kiddo
@supriyoghosh65332 жыл бұрын
@@rahulgoswami3691 Grandpa, please enlighten us a bit?
@balbirchauhan11525 жыл бұрын
shazia is scary as hell... she was smiling the whole time while talking of terrorism... it gave me goosebumps... it was chilling to say the least... i had chills... and here she is talking nonchalantly about terrorism after three encounters with terrorism... she is not human...
@kunalrai80494 жыл бұрын
Balbir Chauhan lol
@sushantahuja90676 жыл бұрын
Javed Akhtar... Respect!
@samsuperantiques99583 жыл бұрын
Aktar at its best.....
@beahumanbeingfirst3 жыл бұрын
Really javed aktar? Then why not all the Islamic country around the world become secular when there are muslims in majority??? India is secular because muslims are not in majority. We are all aware the doctrine of al taqiya in quran and also know your pseudo nature and hypocrisy very well jabed aktar.
@adwaitab.36223 жыл бұрын
Turkey is a secular country, buddy
@apcocoolplasterwallpaintin30907 жыл бұрын
I am proud u mr j akter
@kabitabhaumik58292 жыл бұрын
Taliban ka admirer, abhi tak yenhi hai
@luckyamarsingh4 жыл бұрын
Javed Akhtar is way ahead of time..... Salute
@perwaizaziz8635 жыл бұрын
On islamofobiya,ur panlst r really muslims?
@dhritimannandi84265 жыл бұрын
Dear Shazia we have a woman leader here and hope you know the consequences. Also you have a woman leader in Bangladesh and you yourself admitting about 30 bloggers death and killing in bakery at Dhaka. So your speech was totally contradictory. Actually there is a difference about woman leader and woman politicians. Be very very specific about that.
@udit4106 жыл бұрын
nice
@ibrahimshamshad64515 жыл бұрын
good
@mdrezwanjafri70485 жыл бұрын
JAVED took all the time and had others no chance to speak..
@SuperDravin3 жыл бұрын
Woman in blue saree is so beautiful and dumb.
@ABhattacharya3 жыл бұрын
Aurangzeb developed Music?! Read history Mr. Akhtar.
@mohammedsafansubhani43335 жыл бұрын
there are and is ..five pillars of islam..from beginning...and jihad is not included...by the way..jihad means struggle against one own..bad habits...dear javed akhtar u r wrong
@83abhinavnigam5 жыл бұрын
Bhai usne bahut kuch padh rakha hai .
@mohammedsafansubhani43335 жыл бұрын
abhinav nigam bhai yahi .toh problem hai...bohot kuch padliya..par kuch samajh nahi paaya☺️☺️☺️😊
@83abhinavnigam5 жыл бұрын
@@mohammedsafansubhani4333 haan bhai bahut hi mand buddhi kism ka i san hai
@debasishmallick35655 жыл бұрын
take no offence ..but this explanation we hear every time whenever the issue of jihad comes.Problem is we are not misusing the term jihad ...and people start explaining to non Muslims .Why not a single Muslim cleric declare or issue so called "fatwa" that using Jihad for murder or bombing or taking up arms is not allowed in quran and the muslim perosonel law board which regulates every aspect of how one should live remain silent and keep explaining to non muslims. about hindu fundamentalism ....the major opposition that it faces comes from within the own community.Otherwise with the numbers they have got i guess no one can stop them Yes no society or community is perfect and everyone has flaws but the changes comes from within . It doesn't matter how much you explain meaning of jihad to non muslim ..we are not using it ..so explain it to them who are misusing them
@puredesi62785 жыл бұрын
Javed akhtar darta hai kahi koi inko muslim na keh de, agar moghal ya Muslim shasak nahi hote to kiya Hindustan naam ka koi mulk hota is dharti par, ????
@CD-1235 жыл бұрын
Chup chutiye
@mukeshprashar43965 жыл бұрын
Bharat hota
@puredesi62785 жыл бұрын
@@CD-123 Abe Lode, dimag se soch Bharat koi county ka naam nahi tha pehle, saara tukdo me bata tha, kahi rajput koi maratha dravid marwadi yeh sab ne apni apni state bana rakhi thi mughal ne in sab se tax vasool kiya aur hindustan ka naam diya,
@CD-1235 жыл бұрын
@@puredesi6278 this is what they teach you in your madarsa 😁
@soumyakantaskp57235 жыл бұрын
@@puredesi6278 Bhai us hisab se credit mughals nhi angrez ko jaata h