Actual best accessory equipment in Rise of Kingdoms [it's probably not what you think]

[@Chisgule]

PLEASE NOTE - discussing which accessory is best might seem simple, but it’s actually extremely complex. This is a part of why the game is fun, but also, please be kind and patient if you think we’ve made a mistake - happy to address in the comments or in a future video. Edit: first update - I have under-represented the amount of damage boost horn of fury is offering because you start rebuilding rage after the active skill of the primary commander is used. The conclusion however is the same.

[@coolkid_9475]

Haveing an exact 1000 rage either with tree build or with Horn means u can throw points on other stuff and not rage u can experiment with that...

[@KingvGio]

Perhaps is better to have skill damage equipment for defending your city 🤔

[@KingvGio]

Ring Of Doom and perhaps 5% skill damage is a solid combo

[@jas1010]

hello sir. does the shield lucky coin not work on shield commanders like charles or alex? cuz i learned from your other videos that shields do not stack so how about shield from item

[@GrowmietheGreen]

​@jas1010 this was actually a really good question, any chance that you ever had it answered?

[@wick3343]

Came here expecting you to praise the Concealed Dagger. Went away with some great information. Fantastic vid Chis!

[@MomenKhaiti]

I had a headache watching the video, I can't even imagine how hard this was to make. Thanks Chisgule

[@omarreece9064]

I crafted Dagger yesterday, It’s pretty Pimp in The Sunset Canyon. I instantly started beating guys who had been beating me for months.

[@SnakeEy3s]

who did you put your dagger on?

[@thornadohq5048]

Tier list of equipments in each level. Grey green blue violet and orange

[@bes98]

Grey Grove Aztec Ballas and Vagos

[@matthewdixon5564]

Ive been pondering this lately, especially because I'm in the latest lost kingdom right now. Super relevant. Great job chis!

[@mravagon]

I love how you always use the marker-function of KZbin so that you have a clear structure as a viewer and know exactly whats going on! I‘d like to have a tier list for the different equipments aswell just like your commander rankings, because I think that there are epics that have better use than some of the legendaries for lowspenders and so on. Great vid as always keep it up!

[@anandayer183]

After watching video.. I asked myself.. "so what's good to go for?" 😂

[@celestialdiscord2716]

It depends

[@Joe-ih3ln]

If that's the case then you are too simple minded my friend

[@chicosy1]

Dagger!

[@dapooramericanhomesteadfar7192]

This is how I feel most of his videos. This is good commander. Wait that's a good commander. Next thing. All the commander is a good pair except 1 or 2. I could done all that myself.🤣🤣🤣

[@benjaminlust5494]

Great video. Testing method was amazing and the breakdown was even better

[@watu1243]

This is a great video bro...many players don't know how to use equipment and how the senerio matters

[@jonsniffssnow1007]

Can we just agree the flag is the best. You can’t hurt Lightning Lancer if you can’t catch him.

[@abdullahsagga7195]

Very informative vid chis, thanks for the hard work. For me the only thing I am thinking about is how long it would take me to gather enough material to craft any of these accessories lol.

[@justinclark3510]

Since this video Chisgle has found that there is a rage cap of 220 rage per turn. That is probably why horn of fury doesn't really help if you have already hit rage cap.

[@ジュリアン95]

So I‘m a garrison person and hence I crafted the horn of fury for multiple occasions. Let‘s be real, just few whales can have several sets of legendary accessories, so I want to stick with something which is great in all situations and not just really great in some. And even though it‘s a 30% chance I see it hit so often in the reports that I start to question it. E.g. HA Z5 flag fights I looked into had like 6x activating it within the first 9 turns (!!!) That‘s just insane. And I think for the long run it really adds up. What I would like to see would be maybe something like a tier list. You do this for the commanders too, like rank them for: a) AoO b) Garrisoning c1) Rallying c2)rallying w/ swarm c3) rally w/o swarm d) open field e) ... And I mean this would only be your opinion (just as with the commanders) and you could update that list. But I think people would really appreciate this, myself included. Edit: Or maybe do it for famous commander pairings. With no active skill damage ring of doom becomes way more powerful on Attila Takeda than on a skill damage commander e.g. Edit2: Forgot the appreciation. Thanks Chis, still very helpful!

[@yongluo7121]

great video, exact what I'm looking for, thanks.

[@yongluo7121]

the more i watch this video, the more i like it. really amazing video, great work, thanks Chisgule.

[@Spiral232]

Most people don't need to craft dagger when they can have their allies apply the debuff for them 👌

[@Ticadakusable]

Great info and nice to see how you would use them in what situations . Personally - Not going to craft any anytime time soon(probably never), still working on epics

[@98doubler50]

if u us your commander active skill on 7th turn. Right after this your rage is 0 and u can build rage again . so it is not 9 turn and u have this 2 extra turns to build rage. Over time of few active skill cycle horn will reduce time for 2 turns . So more time horn become more useful .

[@AvidonAdventures]

Chisgule, when you look at greatest glory and ring of doom did you account for how long it takes for doom to pop off (12-15 turns I believe you said) so with GG you would have 12-15 turns of more troops doing 5% attack 5% counterattack. So when ring of doom finally pops you would be doing 50% more damage for 2 seconds with a potential 10-15% less troop strength. I believe GG would be better and it would definitely be better in field fights where you engage and then disengage less than 10 turns every push.

[@Joe-ih3ln]

This is a great point

[@FaisalMudhir]

No because ring can also trigger on first turn, so even if you disengage often overall it evens outs

[@javierross7441]

I decided to go for the book of vengeance. Can't wait to equip my expertised city gatekeeper with it and go on all milly.

[@MrPaojopaw]

Lilith needs to hire Chisgule

[@edpilz9538]

Need an update to this for 2022 and the commanders

[@tedster207]

Really appreciate the video, very helpful!

[@giopanipi2]

Concealed dagger stacks refresh to 3 once 3 is met and it proca again; the initial stacks of 1 & 2 refresh to max time. This is why the dagger is so much better

[@Chisgule]

Only if you had 100% uptime on 3 stacks of concealed dagger would the damage boost be ~7.5-8% for only one target being hit. We know that there will not be 100% uptime on 3 stacks however, and that often the number of stacks will fall off back to zero. I observed that on average dagger is doing LESS damage than ROD against a single target when only one person is hitting the target.

[@kevinhill1992]

We need a test with concealed dagger on players, because if barbs have more health proportionately than players do, then concealed dagger would presumably be better when fighting players than when fighting barbs.

[@Chisgule]

I did a follow up test with a player and the damage boost was nearly identical.

[@kevinhill1992]

@@Chisgule Alright, good to know, thanks. Definitely earned a like from me on this video.

[@abcdf96]

Dagger has more utility it is very good if you have one debuffer in your marches like Chandra. You just melt the target super quick.

[@jaqenhghar8019]

Just as I was 5 legendary materials away from making one. Thanks Chisgule great and helpful content as always :)

[@thrasstefan]

I'm no one.

[@FacelessTrader36]

Break point doesn’t matter. It’s just about speeding up the skill process. Fast rejuvenation is literally the only goal. Screw if it goes over that doesn’t matter it’s about how fast I get to the rage requirement

[@lisalee9856]

Helpful info, altho your assessments mainly come from rally/garrison perspective. Would be more helpful to include more about field fighting or 1 vs 1.

[@arnolddumaoal1445]

at 9:14 It's funny subtitle says scoliosis lucky coin.. anyway tnx for the video

[@unaunsoisland]

Horn: you are taking into account just damaging active skills, every commander cares about active skills, it triggers buffs or debuffs or damage. Hence increasing the cycle is great anyway

[@aaronliit]

which item is the best on attila takeda? and whats your look on ancient stratagems and wind scars?

[@DmitriyKraynov]

Guan+Leo get big benefit with Horny Fury. It helps to fire skill 1 turn faster in first cycle. It goes on 8 sometimes on 7. And without horn it goes on 9 turn.

[@wunash2219]

How about Guan and Alex?

[@avabellan1385]

Wait! What was the best accessory? Did we ever get a clear answer?

[@angrybeaver7595]

Moral of the story.... rally leader = ring of doom + swarm structure with dagger and web for max benefits. It’s all dependent on your role

[@Chisgule]

Bingo. Everything is good, but is most suited to a specific role

[@ljacks10]

Video was just simply incredible!! Thanks so much!!

[@patrifix9496]

Oh wow this game can be very complex...👍🏼

[@munz4790]

What about what's the best for us Open Field fighters or (Non Rally/Garrison) players.

[@Vigileagle01]

That be good to know

[@DayliqhtS]

Are you serious? He explained in great detail already for all types...rewatch it if you don't understand.

[@wolfofrome2458]

Great video chis! It’s important to bring the discussion to a common topic like damage inflected but also important to note that the horn brings on active skills that aren’t necessarily about direct damage infliction. Like Alex or Charles shield that reduce damage, and how do we translate that to direct damage inflected? Makes the conversation much more complex...thanks for all the time you put into doing these test.

[@kevinhill1992]

I have another question, do you have reports where skill damage is actually accounting for 75% of your overall damage? I did a somewhat meaningless test on a barb with CC/YSG and the skill damage was only about 30% of my overall damage. I know obviously you can get combos where they have much higher skill damage, but 75% seems high.

[@jamesspinks2664]

Does Dagger Stack if more then one in Equipment on other commanders

[@lewolfy9671]

What is the best two accessory equipment for garrison?

[@eduardomatos2932]

Yes! What is it?

[@ejnt00217]

We need to know! :D

[@qanoninternationalinfo5000]

😢 Help me ....is the Horn of Fury good for my Archer Commander YSG & ZHUGE & BOUTICA & THUTSMO??? PLEASE answer ❤️

[@robertvandeboom3935]

Wichones do you think is best for atilla/ takede rallies on stronghold and cities?

[@vaynardBG]

Hello chisgule, I hope this is not a noob question, is the debuff from accessories only apply to the target you hit or will it also apply to anyone that got hit by his/her spell as well? For example, if YSG use Concealed Dagger ot Silent Trial, when his skill activated, did the debuff also got apply to anyone that got hit by his skill? As far as I know for skill debuff, commander with aoe like Aetheflaed will debuff everyone that got hit by his skill right? but not with accessories? Perhaps can you make video explaining this on detail if you have some spare time, thanks.

[@senseijameslove]

I’d like to see what you would think accessory A should be on commander X. And go through the line up. I am using Richard and Constantine as a tanky march. Would Vengeance and coin be the best choice? Should Trajan have a horn and War drums? Please tell! 🙏

[@karador3547]

@Chisgule Gaming you provided no data on on what the damage boosting effect was for Pendant, just a straight comparison vs ST. Please post observed DPS increase or don't tell people that the most accessible f2p legendary accessory is bad.

[@jiortzun]

so you're trying to tell me the Horn of Fury is strong on Edward and weak on Khan?

[@Chisgule]

Not exactly. That depends on the break points and other factors influencing your rage.

[@JReiAtsu]

true. khan with horn of fury worsens his already noticeable overraging when hes paired with ysg

[@veer.1235]

I love you closing music

[@finalfantasy111111]

Wow A+ for effort😳

[@tudiwrap7917]

They changed War drums to your march and 2 allied. If you have 5 marches dose it land on your own? If so wouldn't 3 set of Drums, 5 rings, 1 dagger , 1 web be the best for your 5 march?

[@sid4563]

regarding what you said for dagger. Taking for granted it's 2.5% per stack, isn't it the case that every (other) swarming march will benefit from the stack, since it's applied on the targeted march? compared to ring, which just buffs the march wearing it? So, isn't it that all those marches swarming deal extra 2.5%X stacks to the target, since it's because of the debuff applied to the target? Please respond chis. Thanks!!

[@juanluizcano4736]

amazing vide! although i think you just proved dagger to be better :P

[@thornadohq5048]

Chis pin this....Normal attack (x% increase) = troop attack(x%increase) + counter attack(x%increase). I think both get increased x% whole. In that case joan gives more attack than charles.

[@borderbandit8193]

Would horn of fury be good with nevsky with full skill tree build? I'm pure f2p and at a position to choose one from kvk shop.

[@Chisgule]

Horn is very good yes. See this: kzbin.info/www/bejne/eKSQl4Vmh56gkNU

[@airun7149]

Would be interested in a similar comparison like dagger and ring just with the two similar things, the dagger and moras web... 🤔

[@Chisgule]

Dagger is better, see this video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/qKaQkpp3oJhgn7c

[@juliensun1441]

Hi ! Is scolas lucky coin a must have for guan/alex ? Does it even work properly ? Ty !

[@Lord_Omi]

It does work and imo is a must have for guan alex. I have been using it a long time and have done a lot of testing with it. It triggers his expertise skill and as long as I use guan alex I will have my lucky coin on him.

[@wunash2219]

@@Lord_Omi what's your next legendary assessories equipment on guan and alex?

[@shomailjameel14]

Sorry Chisgule but many people are testing the items and the math behind those numbers. Ring of doom is actually the worst item like herald as a commander. We tested it with same number of troops with ring of doom and tested the same with daggar on A/T and the results are not even close. The damage boost which you are declaring by ring of doom is 6.66% so the damage boost of greatest glory is close to 5% as the damage of both items is additive rather than multiplicative. The damage factor formula takes the health as the base denominator and decreasing health in 1 stack deals 17.4% more damage and in 2 stacks it jumps to 43.4% and in 3 stacks it jumps to 57.1%. Video is good but it still lack the evidence which are contrary to your assumptions.

[@Chisgule]

Show me a report with 50% more damage from 3 stacks of dagger. No offense, but You’re absolutely not reading that report correctly.

[@shomailjameel14]

@@Chisgule I will throw those reports your way. :) Its just for 2 turns but its much better than you expect

[@blindaim]

@@Chisgule Any follow up for this?

[@joaomarcoslouro1424]

@@shomailjameel14 1 year later and a lot of players will agree now that you were right from the start

[@baderalfadli3570]

Amazing video thanks a lot.. but does Theo cancel the dagger with her expertise?

[@Chisgule]

Yes

[@ale211850]

Horn and lucky coin are they good on guan for open field? If yes which one first do I have to take? Horn or lucky coin? Thanks

[@danielnewland3411]

this was amazing! Follow up in your opinion for a yss/theo or zenobia/theo would you say the horn is worth it or stick with the ring?

[@Chisgule]

Yss doesn’t benefit as much as other commanders from horn. Zeno Theo is good though with horn.

[@Natalious2001]

i think horn of fury would be great in long term fights each turn that it procs make you hit skill faster and faster. in rng we T(rust). haha

[@ale211850]

If you have to choose which you take for first, delane or silent?

[@benthilwind6908]

Perfect explanation.. The white damage.. Nailed it bro

[@benthilwind6908]

Normal counter impossible to track properly

[@micra81]

I think the greatest glory is the best one from all

[@mtraa.942]

So what should i get for archers openfiled and rallies?

[@markrose8250]

Legendary items are near un-obtainable for a FTP or low spender...how about the items at a tier one or two below legendary? How to optimize the best bang-for-the-buck?

[@Lord_Omi]

f2p and low spenders should not be trying to craft any legendaries. You should be focused on epics which give only slightly less value but at a fraction of the cost. Its better to have all epics rather than 1 or 2 legendaries. It amazes me how many people I have to explain this to that legendaries arent for f2p and low spenders.

[@emitre9075]

@@Lord_Omi that is not true! maybe you're a new player as you're not taking into consideration the time spent in the game. It's not only about money! There are many F2P or low spenders that with time build up T5 and legendary commanders. I'm in this category of players and I'm going to craft one of this piece of equipment right now, and I have several legendary maxed and equipment. I mix legendary equipment (when it's very valuable for me) with epic. So you don't need to explain others what to do...

[@craigbeer324]

Gear, Com Pairings, Talent Builds, yadda freakin yadda are all dependent on what you want to do & your game play style ... beyond that looking at conditional procs on talents, skills, buffs/debuffs you still run into the mercy of luck (rng) - this is why you and an opponent can multiple different matches with the same com pairings, gear, builds, etc. and get different results match to match. I facepalm & die a little inside every time someone asks me in game something like: who's the best com, who pairs best with who, what's the best piece of gear, what com should I invest in next, yadda freakin yadda - Are you F2P or P2W? Are you a fighter or farmer? Do you prefer 1v1 matches? Rallies or field battles? for normal game play or for special environments? What civ/special units do you have? The game is seldom one size fits all.

[@tann120]

what i would like to see is if mora's web or concsealed dagger give a better chance for ring of doom to trigger more frequently. if you go to any of the training buildings and open up troop stats view and press on the defensive stat it actually says it there: "Defence: a unit's ability to resist enemy attacks" so if you know any1 with both of thoes eqiupment pieces i would really like to see them in action together :D

[@austinhoover7889]

No all defense does is reduce damage a very overly simplified version of calcing how much damage troops will do is march A’s total attack stat divided by march B’s total defense stat divide by March B’s total health stat.

[@valuvivao1236]

My lucky coin didn't work on my commanders. How the lucky coin works. I use it on Richard and Alex for battlefield and they came home very fast and no troops.

[@nighthunter1192]

Sorry to hear that. There is something you should know. Only one shield can be active at a time. So, if your Martel's shield is active you won't get a shield from the lucky coin.

[@zombie500able]

So dagger and web is best for open field

[@josecuervo4241]

so would the coin and vengeance be a good combo?

[@jajko.po.5578]

6:20 Wait what so counter attack is increased by normal attack boost things???are you sure?

[@Chisgule]

Yep. Check this video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/qXuTlmimeLitgtE

[@thornadohq5048]

Normal attack (x% increase) = troop attack(x%increase) + counter attack(x%increase). I think both get increased x% whole. In that case joan gives more attack than charles.

[@jajko.po.5578]

@@Chisgule I never expected it works that way,I am 400 days experienced.I am glad I watched this video

[@Jokersxsx]

Would there be any benefit to having vengeance and greatest glory on the same March? Or has that been tested. Seems to be the best of everything

[@Chisgule]

Best for a garrison you know will get swarmed aggressively.

[@Jokersxsx]

@@Chisgule I feel like Pakal would really do well with vengeance to boost his expertise skill?

[@jae-ahan7379]

another question, is the dagger stack erased upon theodora's expertise skill?

[@Chisgule]

Yes I believe so

[@valuvivao1236]

But silent trial is the best on my commanders. Higher power attack.

[@MostafaMohamed-st1uj]

can silent trail work with horn?

[@eltacodurito9231]

So for Alex, Richard Martel what exactly are the best accessories?

[@Chisgule]

Horn and ring IMO. All of the epics are also great, but obviously a tier below the legendaries

[@ajonline87]

Is sacred dominion good its a crap ton of attack

[@babyember1256]

So wouldn’t that mean the dagger in a murder ball or ruins scenario would be the better pick than the ring of doom? Multiple commander taking advantage of the debuff. In other words the more open field accessory?

[@Chisgule]

Yes.

[@babyember1256]

Well thank you for the answer. I would agree with other people in making a video listing where the accessory would be best in. Open field, rally, garrison and swarmed or solo. I know we have limited accessories now so it’ll probably be a short video

[@huwooh]

I would say Greatest Glory and ring of doom for rally, Scolas and Vengeance for garrison

[@rosanttro]

Is scola's coin the best accessory for guan? I use it because of the extra ability damage that guan gain when a shield is active. What do you think?

[@Chisgule]

It’s OK, often it will not align with him doing skill damage.

[@rosanttro]

@@Chisgule thanks for feedback 🙂. And you are right sometimes is not aligned with skill, this is a bad scenario can happen so you gain just the shield. I take the opportunity to thank you so much for your very useful video over the time!

[@thahomiemacaroni3138]

Chis i wanna ask if the silent trial stack when multiple armies have them. Like if i have one and other players have one and we are swarming a target, does the rage reduced stacks?

[@Chisgule]

Yes if multiple people using silent trial hit the same target, it will lose rage for each one

[@gopalbhardwaj6055]

Very informative video... would also like to know your thoughts on Ancient Stratagems... isn't increasing troop capacity by 3% equivalent to increase all damage by 3%, and additionally health by 3%..? Isn't that too good for an epic tier equipment

[@iijnisful]

The issue is getting these unlocked. Accessories are just way too difficult to obtain before kvk 1

[@Chisgule]

Very true

[@Lord_Omi]

You arent supposed to have these in kvk 1. Just play the game be patient and eventually you will get them. These are for people who have been playing for well over a year or in my case over 2 years. Legendary equipment is for high power players who have been playing a long time.

[@austinhoover7889]

If I were to craft any 2 for myself(mid way through kvk 2 currently saving materials to be able to do just that by HA) it would be mora’s Webb and concealed dagger. They’re the two most universal throw them on any commander regardless of what you’re doing and they will give you the same exact effect. The same argument can be made for the ring of doom for an individual march rally or garrison but it offers no benefits to multiple marches hitting the debugged target.

[@lizethcarmensuarezrosales3679]

Cual es el mejor accesorio para pakal

[@sroandco9160]

Well, top 3 accesories on guan guys ? 🤣

[@jovem3694]

If you can put Portuguese translation?

[@jordanjiang6521]

Awesome

[@benpeterson6166]

Need a chart like your cdr guide aheet

[@lusiferkrub6681]

Each epic equipment will each perform good in different part of your roll ..such as ...Rally(skill or attack or AOE) ,Garrison ,support,etc...so that why Lilith try to launch variety so you can have think and fun and pay money to have all as possible...right? Then if you want na test and review report you can do one by one in category of roll part of each commander that you want na used...

[@lusiferkrub6681]

Sorry ...each Legendary equipment...

[@theokoles8746]

What accessories would be better for field fighting? Greatest Glory and horn?

[@tlawrow9292]

Field fighting. Dagger forsure

[@firstblood3165]

Ring of doom and ATtila 4th skill are same, thats all

[@chicosy1]

100% dagger

[@notoriousbigc6233]

horn of furyy alredy craft it and guan loves it :)

[@theunknowned91]

...gimme a leo/harald rally with doom and vengeance.......lemme see a 10 minute rally go off XD

[@frostisdead07]

I think my dad is in the same kingdom as you his name is 32Savage

[@ΟδυσσέαςΝικολάου]

Second ... because ladies first. 😉

[@Anthony-so4go]

Simp

[@amirhosseinkarimi623]

btw you can't compare these items via killing barbs, cuz you already have a lot of damage boost to barbs (e.g. alliance tech).