Bruce Monnier: an otherwise Regular Guy doing his Regular Profession, dealing with a Non-usual Occurrence, resulting in Regular Results while Passengers were Largely Unaware of Potentially Catastrophic Results. Confident, Analytical, Controlled, Humble. THAT is all, Incredible. Well Done & Bravo to you Sir. Excellent interview.
@shaunroberts93615 жыл бұрын
Just outstanding. Bruce M. Sir you are a hero......
@neverclevernorwitty78212 жыл бұрын
Aye, dude was born to be an exceptional pilot.
@shaunolinger9645 жыл бұрын
Pilots... The only people in the world bringing you hours of boredom and moments of terror so calmly no one knows the difference. Nice job, great flying, excellent interview. Thanks!
@zed332l5 жыл бұрын
Been in submarines Do not know why , when you think you our going to die everything gets Calm.............
@SW-tj7rp5 жыл бұрын
Pilots and Certified Registered Nurse Anesthetists (or Anesthesiologist's). Only, I wouldn't call it Terror...as long as one knows what he/she is doing no need to be terrified. An exception may be a dual engine failure over water with icebergs in it (and no way to make a dry landing). :-)
@aflyertwo3 жыл бұрын
Prist has a far different smell than DEF which has a choking smell of ammonia 70% +30% water. It will coat the fuel screens causing the engine to starve of fuel.
@jameshudek87275 жыл бұрын
My experience of flying airlines for 30 yrs, i was shocked that he didn't inform his pax about a duel eng. failure. But when he commented about not wanting to hear screaming passengers in the back, I get it. Especially in a smaller cabin acft. I could envision the chaos. Great job. You can tell that's a cool cat under pressure. Great story.
@adoreslaurel3 жыл бұрын
Would not the lack of engine noise attract attention?
@Cajundaddydave5 жыл бұрын
Yes. Fly the plane, evaluate you options, as conditions change, re-evaluate your options, and fly the plane. Bravo, well done!
@lmartinez36335 жыл бұрын
He did what is the more important thing, fly the airplane. Excellent interview. Calm, collected and knowledgeable pilot, a hero.
@silasmarner75865 жыл бұрын
He seems like Air Force. Cool, calm, collected.
@gogogeedus5 жыл бұрын
@@silasmarner7586 Hey I could have done that,I'm as cool as a red hot chilly pepper!
@FamilyPilot5 жыл бұрын
Heard this on AOPA podcast, thanks for getting the video interview! I believe that Bruce also had the presence of mind to alert his company to relay to the other Jet that fueled with him in FL as they were likely going to be same issue and they did divert without symptoms but went flame out on short final too! Hero is right Mr Baron Pilot. Great job Bruce and Co-pilot.
@Pantherjonvideos5 жыл бұрын
I was there, just finishing up a flight lesson at KSAV. Certainly caused a bit of excitement on the ramp that's for sure! It was about THE smoothest landing I have ever witnessed, great job in bringing it in that smooth! As far as media, it was reported on the Savannah local news that evening..But nothing on the national news outlets as far as I know..Good job, Bruce, in fulfilling your promise to the nervous flyer passenger!
@LifeStartCPR646695 жыл бұрын
Amazing. I am sitting here , type rated in the Citation V and when you said not knowing your systems..... yeah, I’ll admit I don’t fully know my systematic of what will, and what won’t work in the unlikely event that I will ever have to go thru a dual simultaneous engine failure... I think by the end of the month or middle of next month I will have the systems etched into my memory. I already started researching my type fuel systems. Most definitely puts things into a higher perspective for me. Baron Pilot, I’ve been following you for a couple years now, I enjoy your videos immensely & I think this one has got to be the icing on the cake. Bruce, you truly are a hero. I have never heard of anyone (other than NASA) pulling off what you did. I hope your patient was grateful even though she’s terrified of flying. Maybe she’ll go up with you again..... hope she got or gets better from whatever she had/has wrong. Captain Bruce and Captain Baron Pilot: Clear skies and safe landings sirs.
@flyingsic5 жыл бұрын
Michael R. Jacobson I’m glad you took this story to heart and are improving your knowledge because of it. We appreciate you watching our videos and hope you continue to love them!
@marcs9905 жыл бұрын
A Great Pilot, a Great guy, a Great Captain, a brave guy & certainly was the RIGHT guy to have in this aircraft at this unfortunate moment & certainly a guy who deserves more recognition for what he & his copilot did, enough said......
@ErikN15 жыл бұрын
I have never been as glued to a KZbin video as I was watching this. Really interesting. I love how the passengers never noticed the other engine quitting. Probably for the best. So great to hear how a professional pilot handles critical situations.
@scotty30345 жыл бұрын
This reminded me of something when he said he had a nervous flyer on that flight. I used to do volunteer medevac flights out of Boulder County, Colorado for the company I worked for. We’d normally haul printed data and support hardware and software between various stations around the region. So one night I got a call to see if I would volunteer transport a liver transplant recipient and his wife to SLC where there was a matching donor. The guy was super cool and thankful. But his wife........she was a pain in the ass. She told us about 10 times before we had even taxied out to the departure runway how much she was afraid of flying and hated it. After we were airborne, she would scream at even the slightest bit of turbulence. At one point she was even yelling at her husband for getting her into this. I felt so bad for him. Mind you: the man was going to a hospital to get a new liver and his wife made it all about her. Lol. After we landed and as they de-planed, not even a thank you from her. But her husband said, “I’m so sorry about that”. That poor bastard. Cheers!
@rbmwiv5 жыл бұрын
Mike Patton damn. Sounds like my X wife. That bitch cussed me out when I got my M.S. diagnoses. I left her a year later. I wasn’t gonna put up with that. I am much happier now and have a wonderful woman that is concerned for my health and all the things someone in your life is suspose to do. My health improved after I left her from the stress of her constant bitching.
@semperoccultus19695 жыл бұрын
@@rbmwiv I understand what you're talking about right there. I've thought about my health and asked myself if it would get better just by getting away from mine.
@robinkuruda52494 жыл бұрын
Colorado Back Road Drives ... I know this sounds cruel but could you have denied her to fly, based on her possibly creating a problem in flight??
@bobczz39194 жыл бұрын
Some people are extremely afraid of flying. She should have stayed home but probably wanted to be there with her husband despite her fears. So, you have to understand her actions. Not everyone is like you.
@War4theWest3 жыл бұрын
@@rbmwiv Ya, my ex was like that, laughed when i got injured, yelled at me when sick, lol. So deep in my rear view, a life well-lived is the best revenge. Hehe.
@AndyC2_5 жыл бұрын
Wow what a story But, @baronpilot the way you interviewed and presented this to us literally blew my away Carefully extracting the info from the pilot without leading him or interrupting was just perfect Thank you for bringing this story to us 🙏🏼
@taffyhomwe4635 жыл бұрын
I have had an engine failure in a Comanche during my IFR exam prep..WORST feeling in my life I have no clue how you guys stayed so calm...Great story greetings from Tanzania East Africa.
@JP-wg3uq3 жыл бұрын
I am supremely impressed! I have been flying large jets for 37 years and everyone onboard that aircraft is fortunate to the extreme that this amazing pilot quickly and accurately calculated a glide ratio with no engines running that brought them to a suitable runway. I am so delighted to be learning about this successful event from this video rather than a crash in the forests near Savannah from an NTSB report. Well done, sir.
@larryharding77725 жыл бұрын
One of the best videos you've done. Thank you.
@the8thfit5 жыл бұрын
I have a new hero. Seriously Bruce... that was humbling. I'm a student pilot and I've been struggling with glide approaches, but your wisdom and attitude have completely altered my thinking. I have a new benchmark of calm to aspire to!
@nq0amark1385 жыл бұрын
Amazing and heroic story, truly inspirational. The first and only guy to fly a Citation glider to the air field! I am impressed.That's one you won't ever forget. ;-) Well done sir!
@wb6she5 жыл бұрын
Well I usually don't comment on vlogs, but have to say "what a good piece of work"...he did everything by the books, calm cool and collected...hats of to him!...what a great pilot!
@petakas15 жыл бұрын
What a breed of Pilot. Rare stuff. Baron Pilot I really liked the Q&A calm discussion style without interruptions. Great airmanship Bruce.
@andrewbainton41395 жыл бұрын
Chris, that was a fantastic video. Probably your best work. It flowed so well and of course, was interesting as hell. I really enjoyed it. Great Job. Thanks so very much for the extra effort you take to make your videos not only fun but informative.
@extraace5 жыл бұрын
I(CJ2) got fueled from the same APF truck at the same time as those guys and had a voicemail when I got on the ground asking if we had any fuel issues. Sumped the tanks and filters and all was ok. Then some dealing with the FAA before it got traced back to PGD. Glad I didn't get caught up in it. Great job with the landing!
@flyingsic5 жыл бұрын
extraace it ended up hitting 3 planes, but we are so glad it didn’t get into more or have any deadly issues. All the pilots did a great job avoiding possible catastrophic issues.
@captainstu58065 жыл бұрын
Didn't hear a thing about this when it first happened, glad you folks shared it! Yes, the most important thing to take away from this "Experience" is to know your aircraft, all systems associated with it & have confidence in yourself & crew member to remain calm and fly the aircraft. In years past I've had an engine oil fire in a DHC-2, an engine failure in a DHC-3, prop failure in a DHC-6, chip detector in a BE200, false engine fire alarm in a BE200, complete pressurization failure (above 18,000) in a BE200, etc. Similar situation happened in 1977. A HS-784, C-FMAK, departed YYQ and after climb power was set, both engine were cooked and a gear up forced landing was done on the ice on the Churchill River. An AME filled the water methanol tank from a drum labelled "Water Methanol" but was used to store used Varsol. You'd think people would learn! Glad it all worked out!
@flyingsic5 жыл бұрын
Captain Wayne one of the reason we put the video out there. We want people to know this can and did happen and hope people will be more vigilant and aware. I’m glad you were able to land in those situations!
@jth16995 жыл бұрын
Captain Wayne - you should retire - the flying gods are trying to tell you something---
@captainstu58065 жыл бұрын
@@jth1699 Retire? Shit, there's NO GOD or flying Gods for that matter. If all my friends & I retired yesterday, you'd be taking the Greyhound tomorrow! Funny how companies like Emirates were coming to North America twice a year, 5 years ago. Now they're here every other month & the max age now is 57! Go back to your CFI job, & stay in the circuit where it's VFR & safe! LOL
@nadyamullen60985 жыл бұрын
This was a real emergency unlike others who post videos saying 'REAL EMERGENCY'. Great job.
@Newberntrains4 жыл бұрын
My ipad quit i must squawk 7700
@aholder44713 жыл бұрын
This man pulls off an amazing feat and then tells us what weaknesses he worked on from the lessons he learned. That's rare. I hope we all never stop learning or trying to improve like that.
@FrancoVettor5 жыл бұрын
Great work Baron Pilot. Bruce Monnier has some angels flying with him. Congratulations to him for the job involved for landing safely.
@groundeffect85473 жыл бұрын
In Helicopter flight school back a few years ago (LOL-1968) my Army Cpt platform instructor told us ..."It's all about being cool " he was referring to anything outside of your control while flying the aircraft. His story was more war related but it was a great foundational attitude for all aviators and the captain demonstrated his "COOL" superbly !
@shademe5 жыл бұрын
Well done, the pilot is the most chill person I've ever had the privilege to listen to!
@EdwardFleming-d7x Жыл бұрын
Great interview. I was the A&P mechanic overseeing the fueling and was immediately questioned by the owner of the company if the Prist was added. I told him I was positive the valve was on because I had noticed the fueler forgot to turn it off after he was done fueling. Anyway I just played the video for my class of 20 students trying to get their A&P license here at Aviation Institute of Maintenance in Atlanta where I'm an Instructor and they were fascinated with the story. I shot my buddy Bruce a text letting him know. It's a cautionary tale that luckily had a happy ending.
@robertrutherford90575 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised that plane could handle the weight of the pilots massive balls.
@huckinfillbilly39605 жыл бұрын
Now that’s effing funny!
@silasmarner75865 жыл бұрын
You KNOW the chicks are lining up. And they don't mind that!
@williamosteen55005 жыл бұрын
Made of BRASS at that !!!!!! :)
@1littlelee5 жыл бұрын
they did thier job they SHOULD be trained and ready for this
@ylekyoti44965 жыл бұрын
That was golden
@BizJetTV4 жыл бұрын
Great episode. One thing that was not mentioned was the fact Bruce Monnier had actually done dual engine failure training in the simulator and this helped when dealing with the real thing.
@dancolley42085 жыл бұрын
THE rule: aviate, navigate, communicate. You must always fly the plane, especially when you realize there is no magic incation you can recite or a hidden button you can push to unscramble the situation. You're back to needle, ball and airspeed flying. I was reminded of that mantra when you said that the souls in back never knew what, exactly, was happening. VERY nice job, sir. My cover is off to you.
@patfarra6275 жыл бұрын
Dan Colley did Bruce take a fuel sample prior to t/o ?
@patfarra6275 жыл бұрын
Engine failure is always an emergency. Period
@conventionality5 жыл бұрын
Dan Colley captain joe
@dancolley42085 жыл бұрын
@@patfarra627 who knows? Would "stabbing the tank" (draining the sumps) have told him anything? Likely not.
@Gratefulwon5 жыл бұрын
No power sucks. BTDT in a caravan ifr, The audio of that is on my channel. Didn’t get to the airport, but lucked out anyway. Busted out at 800’ and saw a field that was handy about 3 miles from the runway. As Max Smart said, “Missed it by this much!”
@markhull13665 жыл бұрын
As a retired Part 121 (heavy) A&P, I have a few observations. First, I listen to the differences on how PIC's handle EM situations on channels like VAS Aviation. Bruce, you are a "steely-eyed-missle-man" of pilots. You handled that situation like the best of the 121 drivers, NASA astronauts, etc. Second, hats off the Cessna on this aircraft. I have been of the opinion that there seems to be too much "push" on computerization/fly-by-wire in aircraft. MCAS is a prime example of that IMHO. Cable control allowed the crew to maintain positive control. Last, it is absolutely inexcusable that ground vehicle fluids were able to be contaminated into aviation fuel. When I worked in/around POL in the Air Force, we had strict proceedures to prevent this from happening. The airport authorities I've worked with, that were responsible for aviation fueling have these in place too. It would appear that the FBO (if they were the one responsible for this) was clearly negligent. There are proper protocols for them to follow. Hope the FAA drops some serious repercussions on whoever was responsible. Clearly this could've ended in disaster. Kudo's to all who worked to make this a happy ending.
@jeta1f355 жыл бұрын
Yes, the 'housekeeping' in the fuelling operation was dreadful, there should have been procedures in place to prevent any possibility of DEF (or any associated equipment) from getting anywhere near aviation fuel. This is a scary problem when you run ground fuel systems alongside aviation fuel systems, it needs 110% focus on detail from everyone in the fuelling operation.
@terriecotham15675 жыл бұрын
It amazing that just a small amount could cause the flame out when you look at the total fuel on board but then I have no way of knowing if it was just a few ounces or a few galleons mix in with the fuel and its possible if it was a few galleons it may have not mix with the jet fuel and like a heavy oil and remain together and then was pump close to full strength into the engine Its all so possible a new person made the mistake sad but possible
@jeta1f355 жыл бұрын
@@terriecotham1567 There are no valid excuses or reasons for this, as this incident clearly shows fuel is a critical element of flight, every aspect of the fuelling operation has to be managed with that in mind. Having spent 30 years in fuelling ops myself I am appalled that any operation could be so badly managed that this could happen.
@terriecotham15675 жыл бұрын
@@jeta1f35 but in life there is all ways the wild card and good people on the job help keep the sky's safe Thanks for your hard work I love y tube for it allows people to see things that may help them in life and there job6 Your word's have wisdom
@smitty9733 Жыл бұрын
Amazing and miraculous that no other aircraft weren't involved in this calamity.
@rikspector5 жыл бұрын
And that is why, after watching so many cockpit videos and "meeting" the pilots, I would rather be in a plane alongside one, than being in a car... thousands of feet in the air or not. You are the kind of people who restore my faith in humanity. Happy New Year, Frederick "Rik" Spector and by the way, I hope the ailing passenger was OK.
@henrywight40575 жыл бұрын
I love the comment about breaking out of the clouds as a new instrument pilot. When he said that it took me right back to my very first solo approach. Oh yes that is quite a Feeling.
@peterusher19645 жыл бұрын
Great video. Great interviewing technique, asked only pertinent questions and let him answer fully. I have a cousin who flew fast jets for the RAF. He lost engines twice, once in a Hawk trainer (flameout) and both in a Tornado (bird strike). He managed to recover the aircraft safely both times. He talks about it (rarely though) with the same detached sang froid that Bruce has. Just goes to show that thoughtful action wins the day.
@fnmag68095 жыл бұрын
Great interview. Thank God for this strong intelligent calm man who is really needed in this country
@diverbob85 жыл бұрын
Wow....This will be an epic video in the avaition community for decades to come...BRAVO!
@freedom4u185 жыл бұрын
Omg that dude is ICE MAN literally!! What I’m going to take from this video as I go through PPL training is to stay calm during a Emergency.
@benmartz34055 жыл бұрын
Good idea Bro. Good luck in your PPL training. I'm not a pilot, i just follow all these guys because i eventually want to do it also. Hope you have a happy holiday.
@niceguy21715 жыл бұрын
Actually for me it's exactly what he says towards the end..learn each new crafts capabilities, including what if both engines are out? Had some ribbing when I asked that long ago, but still won't apologize for it, and his suggestion that all pilots learn those capabilities is something that I truly hope each pilot takes away from this.
@markaoslo56535 жыл бұрын
@Freedom4U - Stay calm, the rest of the time too - And yes, the irony of panic is that it tends to fulfill the outcome that it's supposed to protest. Its a state of mind, something between discipline and thoughtful consciousness - it's neither cold nor cool ("ICE"); it's simply allowing the rational process to operate unfettered.
@freedom4u185 жыл бұрын
Marka Oslo Well said!!
@freedom4u185 жыл бұрын
@ryan lemons You Tube Channel!!! 133 plane 49 instructor a hr plus tax
@alexusrads5776nases3 жыл бұрын
Captain Bruce....you saved 7 souls on that day....great work
@bodystomp53025 жыл бұрын
This video was considerably more interesting than I thought it would be. Stud pilot.
@raceace5 жыл бұрын
A great example of training, systems and buckets loads of chill coming up clutch after a dodgy batch of fuel. Much respect sir.
@raybaldwin27165 жыл бұрын
Having had a career in the fuel business I found this very interesting and informative. Many complements to the pilot and co-pilot. Hopefully this led to better fuel handing procedures.
@sturvinmurvin94083 жыл бұрын
Oh dang, this was that guy. What a story. I was in charge of the line at my local field at the time. I went ahead and revamped our entire operation post this story.
@dbic25 жыл бұрын
Hi Bruce, This was a very informative video. I had a very similar experience with my son,s Chevy Duramax 1500 diesel truck. Long story short, I was sold Blue Def instead of winter fuel additive at our local parts store. My son was in the Navy, and he said to add a small amount of fuel additive in the winter. I had lo clue about a Diesel engine, much less Blue Def. The guy at the counter said”I know exactly what you need and set a full gallon of Def on the counter. I asked him if I really needed a gallon, and he said “oh yeah, you can dump the whole thing into the tank. I thanked him, and $3,870.00 later, went back to that store and got them to fess up and they paid me $2,500.00 back. Blue Def is essentially water,cow urine, and a microbial. IT DOES NOT MIX WITH ANY KIND OF FUEL. Thank God you and the souls you were responsible for came out of that safely! Happy and safe flying! Don
@randyporter34915 жыл бұрын
This brought back a lot of memories. I worked as a lineman long ago, while building flight time. I have put more Prist in jets, than I care to remember. Even in the 80’s, we had an “auto-mix” system as Kris and Bruce mentioned, but we didn’t use it on our trucks We used old-school aerosol cans and added manually, can (pound) at a time. We didn’t know why, other than for “accuracy”, and it was just policy. After watching this, I realize a benefit to that method I guess. Great video guys ! Thanks to Bruce for sharing the details with us and to BP for making it happen. Safe skies always ! 🇺🇸
@franklinpierce28545 жыл бұрын
Prist has to be "metered" in at fueling time because if simply 'mixed' in to the fuel truck it sinks to the bottom fairly quickly and the mixture ratio cannot be assured. It doesn't really "mix" with the fuel.
@socomon695 жыл бұрын
Ditto. I was a lineman in the early 80s and this brought back memories of adding cans of prist while fueling jets.
@randyporter34915 жыл бұрын
socomon69 And like me, I’m sure you remember how bitter cold those airport ramps were, standing out there wondering if the fuel could flow any slower. We always said “there’s nothing between us and the North Pole, except a barbed-wire dense, and two strands of that is down !” 😂
@randyporter34915 жыл бұрын
Franklin Pierce explains why we sprayed it directly into the fuel stream, on non single-point, wing tanks.
@donanders21105 жыл бұрын
@@franklinpierce2854 what keeps it from sinking to the bottom of the planes tanks?
@bobshaw40635 жыл бұрын
WOW ! What a great and amazing story & Interview .Great story that the pilots were able to land the Citation jet w/2 flamed out engines . No injuries & damage to the fuselage .
@johnbarham77185 жыл бұрын
What a very Competent, careful and calm pilot. He and his co plot deserve a commendation for that incident.
@jasonhelmer96045 жыл бұрын
Awesome job Bruce and what a great learning story. Had a friend that wanted to store some 100ll in a diesel can once told him probably not a good idea if its going back in the Cessna. He could'nt understand my logic but used my new gas cans anyway. You never know.
@oliverdots5 жыл бұрын
One amazing pilot in so many ways. Gliding the plane down, thinking of how the passengers are feeling, not alerting them to unnecessary worries and just seeming a very nice guy who is playing down how bloody amazing he is. Very humbling.
@niceguy21715 жыл бұрын
Wow, what a experience. Had asked for you to film in the Citation before, but then doing this story, which thankfully had a happy ending, is appreciated. Sounds like the correct guy was in the seat, and he handled it as well as it could be handled..but don't think I could have resisted telling that ground ATC when he asked parking.."right here" ;)
@BackFocus114 жыл бұрын
I’m typed in the CE-500 series and been to CAE Simuflite and FlightSafety and never received dual engine out training. Definitely outside the box. Great work handling this situation.
@Crifstar5 жыл бұрын
WOW, this guy is totally a professional
@zdlinden4 жыл бұрын
UNPROFESSIONAL is the word
@DoctorMangler4 жыл бұрын
He looks like a fighter jock too :P
@fritzkatz4 жыл бұрын
@@zdlinden Care to explain that "unprofessional" comment or shall we just file you in the "baseless accusations and groundless complaints" folder with Donnie boy?
@holistictherapist64943 жыл бұрын
@@fritzkatz Donald was the BEST president usa had took down two paedo rings
@airialcinematography9394 жыл бұрын
I am totally impressed at this pilot's professionalism during this flight. What I am totally shocked at are the 600 people who gave this video a thumbs down this man is truly a hero nice job pilot.
@ColdCanuck505 жыл бұрын
I'm reminded of that little joke about wanting to die like my father: quietly, calmly in his sleep, not screaming, crying, and clawing at the windows like the passengers in his car.
@howtocooper7415 жыл бұрын
ColdCanuck50 what
@ColdCanuck505 жыл бұрын
@@howtocooper741 Just that if they were destined to *ahem* end....that it would likely be better to be completely unaware of the coming end than fully aware and screaming yourself hoarse, trying to claw your way through half-inch Plexiglass ports LOL
@computerbob065 жыл бұрын
But then, if I was in that car, I'd calmly take the wheel, turn the ignition to battery only position and apply the handbrake!
@ColdCanuck505 жыл бұрын
@@computerbob06 It's just supposed to be a humorous visual, but cheers, anyway.
@AlfredoPachecoJr5 жыл бұрын
This one always gets me...hahahahaha
@w4gle19632 жыл бұрын
Great Interview!! sounds like Bruce and his Co-Pilot have Nerves Of Steel! Great Job Bruce and I think he said Jerry, are True Heroes!! Thank You for your Service as First Responders!
@daviddefelice69975 жыл бұрын
Isn’t it strange that DEF stands for diesel exhaust fluid AND dual engine failure? Just sayin’.
@JMART8875 жыл бұрын
Diesel exhaust fluid refers to ADBLUE. In Aviation Diesel is not commonly used although it was trialed in the 1920's-1930's. Some manufacturers are designing new diesel engines for aircraft today, however ADBLUE or DEF would reduce the limited power to weight ratio already produced by diesel engines in comparison to Avgas etc. So the Acronym will never be used in Aviation specifically as "DEF". I'm only a Private Pilot becoming commercial so please correct me if I am wrong. Kind regards.
@daviddefelice69975 жыл бұрын
You missed the entire point by a mile. The conversation they had while flying said that the Dual Engine Failure (DEF) was caused by Diesel Exhaust Fluid (DEF). Nothing more - nothing less. Don’t read things into my comment that aren’t there mate.
@JMART8875 жыл бұрын
@@daviddefelice6997 Oh I truly apoligise mate, I honestly missed that part of video and no offence was intended towards you in my comment. I was not trying to correct you or be-little you sir, I researched the 2 Acronyms you mentioned and it taught me some history about the Diesel Engines once used and currently being developed in Aviation. Which as a Student Commercial Pilot and former trade vehicle mechanic I did not previously know this info. So thankyou for the educational push and thankyou for calling me out on myself being rude in my comment, once again it was not my intention. All the best mate, Kind regards.
@daviddefelice69975 жыл бұрын
I wasn’t trying to call u out. Just wanted to explain what my intent was in saying what I did. All is good. And good luck in your flying adventures. 😊
@JMART8875 жыл бұрын
Thankyou @@daviddefelice6997 for accepting my apology! I actually meant to reply , "Saying just how true and humorous your initial comment was". There is some strange coincidence going on there lol. Thankyou for your kind words mate, I will always do my best. I'm glad I wasn't too offensive towards yourself, my silly error, now a perfect lesson I say. Although I always do prefer learning from others errors hahaha :) All the best in the future ;).
@johnbranson74524 жыл бұрын
I have always wanted to learn to fly. At 67, I decided to go to learn. I loved the experience. Most of all, I gained a ton of respect for pilots who do this every day. This was a tremendously inspirational video. Life and death in such competent hands. I am in awe.
@bradmcdonald47135 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for posting this vid BP! Great interview and absolutely fascinating to see the mindset of a pilot when something goes wrong.
@helisteven19864 жыл бұрын
Amazing job bringing the plane down safely. I have been working at FBOs for 16 years and I’m the head trainer for the linemen at the company I work for. Even though we don’t have jet trucks that require the def fluid I still train everyone at my company on this growing problem with fuel contaminated with def fluid as an example of the importance of contamination of the fuel. “Every occurrence of mishandling the fuel and the equipment can and will kill the pilots, passengers, or yourself. There is a lot of thing is this life I can fix, but stupid isn’t one of them.” That’s what I tell every person I train.
@kurthunter24275 жыл бұрын
I knew a guy once that dead stick’d a Lear 25 in for a landing. It changed him...got really arrogant and took more risks. He died in a plane crash less than a month later. You are very lucky...stay humble!
@harblz574 жыл бұрын
"There are old pilots and bold pilots, but no old, bold pilots." - E. Hamilton Lee, 1949
@sirclarencedarrow5 жыл бұрын
As some one who was forced to land in a random field due to an engine failure, just a couple of weeks ago, I really appreciate what these guys did.
@flyingsic5 жыл бұрын
eths hats off to you, I’m glad you made it safely down
@sirclarencedarrow5 жыл бұрын
@@flyingsic Thanks - the funny thing is, it was maybe my smoothest landing ever. Strange how this works sometimes.
@CreekyGuy5 жыл бұрын
"It reminds you the importance of knowing the systems."{...of the specific airplane you are flying.} Excellent "I Learned About Flying From That". Thank you.
@williamgibb55575 жыл бұрын
It is like the old saying, "you and what you are operating become 1 " know your job well. Whether it is a hammer, a backhoe or a plane.
@vfr2imc5 жыл бұрын
Pretty sharp Bruce, hats off to you and your copilot. Both engines out, instrument failure in IMC I'd say you earned your flight pay that day! Proud of you both. Getting some more turbine time Baron Pilot? Some time back I watched your flight with P1D going for a bite to eat. Keep up the good work my friend.
@scottfps54905 жыл бұрын
Well done, Bruce!! That's an understatement. I've been looking into buying a jet and reading the POH for a Phenom 300. I'm a 30-year pilot with lots of private time, but, when I couldn't find dual engine out procedures in the book, I was quite surprised and contacted Embraer to find out where that procedure was located. They told me the same thing; it only happens due to fuel starvation or contamination...which never happens. Well, I didn't believe them when they said it and you are living proof...it happens. Seriously, well done. The sphincter-factor was must have been climbing when other stuff (altimeter) started to go off line. Getting 3-green would have been a major relief. I've experienced gear issues twice; it's not pleasant. To make it to the runway as a glider, and then land gear-up would have been satisfactory. But, tragedy averted. Not only was it piloting skill and knowing the systems, but also knowing the character of the aircraft that saved the crew, passengers, people and property on the ground, and the aircraft. Sitting here thinking what other factors might have played a factor and the only thing I can think of is winds aloft. At 8k-feet, you don't have a lot of time, but it would have been interesting to compare altitude lost at 160K glide and distance covered over (for example) 2 minutes, then at 150K Did they inform you as to their process to re-certified as airworthy?
@peterpedersen16413 жыл бұрын
You da man, Man! I remember back in the early 70s while training in a small J-3 Piper Cub... a tiny little tail dragger.. Loved it. Growing up my Dad bought one, I think it was a 59 model. My instructor was Ed Mahler, a professional stunt pilot who was a friend of my Dad's. We were up around 3k and Ed turns of the engine to force me to find a safe landing spot, which we had done a couple of times. This time, the engine did not restart!!! Oh well, now it's time to find a safe landing spot. We were in New Jersey out in Hunterdon County, which is full of farmer's fields that are in decent shape. I saw a sod farm a few miles away and with this slow little tail dragged, I brought it down on Leon's Sod Farm in Pittstown, NJ. A bit rough, but really as nice as the grass side of Sky Manor Airport. Ed says, "We can walk back from here." I was like, did we really have to shut it down a third time.... It was a charm. RIP Ed!!! Thanks for the description of this event. I would like to know what the ramifications were to the fuel guys on the ground?
@bob_atwestmi_fl_us78125 жыл бұрын
Very interesting, just reinforces when things start going bad the best thing you can do is stay calm and focus on all options. True professional.
@marcusreading40445 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing this story. These types of events are invaluable for the aviation community to learn from. I personally am very appreciative to have the opportunity to hear about these incidents and have the opportunity to learn from them. Thank you!
@louisadamo25105 жыл бұрын
Another great video as usual. Interesting enough is that that jet is run by Air Trek and I actually did all my private training with them back in the early 80s when they were a flight school and FBO at PGD (Charlotte County back then) and before they had branched out to Med Evac services. Another ironic thing is my son use to fly as a Paramedic with Air Trek a few years back. Great family owned company and I'm so glad everything worked out and all were safe.
@EDOGGH5 жыл бұрын
A skilled man with a sharp mind and calm demeanor doing his job . Depending on a machine to do its part while doing his . When the machine failed he compensated with effort and experience to not only prove he is an excellent pilot , but also a HERO! Awesome story!
@danmcbride62585 жыл бұрын
Very experienced Pilot, cool on the controls. Thank God this all happened in Sunny VFR conditions in the Southern US.
@poppabear92792 жыл бұрын
I’ve watched this video twice. This pilot is absolutely amazing. The way he discusses it, the outcome and the mentality this pilot has, cannot be taught in flight schools. This is past the point of training and more of Bruce being a natural.
@johnswofford12825 жыл бұрын
Great Story. Thank You for sharing and thumbs up to “ Baron Pilot” for producing, filming, editing and interviewing.
@curtiscurtis66304 жыл бұрын
One thing I know is that no one aircraft flies exactly the same as another in an engine out always know your aircraft and do not panic I really respect this guy for not panicking awesome job.
@cjswa64734 жыл бұрын
Had many ,many emergencies in thousands of hours of flying..one thing I learned is,,,if you are well trained and confident..all emergencies happen in slow motion...when untrained or weak..things happen fast.
@j.b.87673 жыл бұрын
From here on out, whenever I am the hero, as I was countless times doing line work, and as a power plant operator, which I rarely said much about, though now I have a definite reply in mind: "They call me Bruce...." : ) Thanks for the great video! God bless.
@herkloader345 жыл бұрын
Bob Hoover would be proud! Great job guys!
@David-eb9lk5 жыл бұрын
Great pilot with a great understanding of flight characteristics. BRAVO my man WELL DONE!
@steveb17395 жыл бұрын
Airmanship of the highest order
@mikerawlinson50315 жыл бұрын
What a pilot. Cool, calm and collected all the way down. Excellent flying and thanks for the video which was well worth watching.
@sprintertwo5 жыл бұрын
Imagine if this had happened sooner after takeoff rather than at FL 350. So fortunate that the contamination took so long to damage the engines and they had that energy available. Crew did a perfect job. PIC exudes calm and confidence.
@kevinstone96384 жыл бұрын
NBAA has honored these pilots with their new above and beyond award. Congratulations on your professionalism and attention to the task and job at hand.
@MrSafetyForever5 жыл бұрын
Mr Monnier is indeed the consummate professional! Take Care
@airmechanical71635 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised he wasn't eating his apple on final! This guy is the picture of being cool under pressure. Great flying sir!!
@Cottageguy20105 жыл бұрын
Incredible event and outcome! I have had a few issues while taking my PPL and I can tell you it’s hard to remain as calm as Iceman there!!
@Parker-di7ef5 жыл бұрын
What a cool interview! Because of these incidents, my FBO has taken tons of initiative in order to prevent DEF contamination with the Prist containers. Now two line techs are needed to refill the trucks with Prist, and the containers have been fitted with adapters making it nearly impossible to pump anything but Prist into the Prist containers on the trucks. DEF is kept in a separate location that requires a different key to access it.
@flyingsic5 жыл бұрын
Parker B I commend your FBO for taking a proactive stance on this situation. Although they probably had one in place, they likely made it much better. Kudos to them and you, I wish all FBO’s would take this initiative.
@DC-iq4gf5 жыл бұрын
Why would a jet fuel trucker have any DEF containers? I know about DEF being used in diesels engines for cars and trucks. Are there airplanes that have diesel motors? If so, how long has the aviation industry been required to use "clean" diesel technology?
@flyingsic5 жыл бұрын
David Cohen it’s used for the trucks that fuel the planes.
@williegillie57125 жыл бұрын
Didn’t realize how easy it is for contaminants to get into jet fuel. Hopefully this incident will bring about changes that might save a few lives
@geminisixx45 жыл бұрын
If you can believe it, mold grows inside the fuel tanks...water, all the fun stuff
@bille.22665 жыл бұрын
It.s about not repurposing containers for other uses.
@neilgibbons25325 жыл бұрын
@@bille.2266 somebody should be fired or charged with misdemeanor
@davidlindgren76053 жыл бұрын
@@neilgibbons2532 yep, that was a stupid, inexcusable mistake.
@brandoncook89752 жыл бұрын
very scary when he said "13 miles out landing in the wrong direction". it just seems very far. this guys a hero.
@benjamincrowder75385 жыл бұрын
Wow... amazing story. So glad everyone was ok.
@scotty117825 жыл бұрын
Thanks Bruce & Baron Pilot
@muddyexport56395 жыл бұрын
Takeaway: 1. Fly the plane. 2. Know the plane.
@dancolley42085 жыл бұрын
Muddy Export,, I'm with you. You must know ... cold ... what your aircraft will do.
@tonylewis17715 жыл бұрын
Thing is, no one knew how the plane would fly with 2 engines out. This pilot was the Guinea pig.
@dancolley42085 жыл бұрын
@@tonylewis1771 True. All I was trying to say was that the pilot must know all there is to know about his plane. For example, the pilot should know what happens to a particular system when he pushes a particular switch or moves a particular lever that controls another system. Obviously, if there is no information about two engine out situations and then, it reverts to common sense and luck. All planes are so different that the volume of information one needs to fly one particular airplane is almost impossible to know. The big ones have com links to people who have a lot of information but even if this guy had a link to Cessna, it likely do him no good.
@Os4-z7s5 жыл бұрын
3. Eat an apple.
@gogogeedus5 жыл бұрын
@@Os4-z7s Kept the doctor away that day!
@seanapplestill25182 жыл бұрын
You're a hero my friend, there's no way around it! Excellent job!
@jasoncapecod5 жыл бұрын
this is a great interview!!! totally captivating...
@TictacAddict15 жыл бұрын
Thanks gentlemen for an excellent video story. It's amazing the little tid-bits you pick up in life. I read "Chuck Yeager an Autobiography" many many years ago. Two tid-bits I gleaned from that book. The first was a lesson learned in this adventure, Knowing the Systems is Life and Death in the aircraft you are flying. One of the stories told in Yeager's book was about a test pilot who died because he did not take the time to learn the systems of the aircraft he was flying. The second tid-bit was super real for me. Yeager had broken his back in a crash and he knew instantly that he had, due to another pilot describing the feeling. When I was involved in a helicopter crash, I immediately knew I had a broken my back as Yeager's description was: "feels like a grapefruit just under your skin at the site of the injury". Unfortunately, I will probably never fly a corporate jet but, I'll never forget your story.
@arthouston73615 жыл бұрын
This is a great illustration of the first rule: fly the airplane.
@jack4burns2 жыл бұрын
I am learning a lot on this channel on things I never even thought could happen - Just blows my mind
@BaronPilot2 жыл бұрын
Glad you are enjoying the channel and learning a little something at the same time. 👍🏼
@peterfrenzel18265 жыл бұрын
Totally amazing story. I had one engine flameout in a lear 25 climbing through the high 30s on the way to 410 due to a high deck angle starving the engine of air, also a non event due to the excellent training and recurrent training at flight safety, nice slow descent to 250, relight and carry on, folks in the back never even knew anything had happened.
@flyingsic5 жыл бұрын
Peter Frenzel great job!
@Chief2Moon4 жыл бұрын
That coolness & calm problem solving deserves applause!
@luthiermatt5 жыл бұрын
Last thing I want to hear is people screaming in the back anyway. Oh man.
@War4theWest3 жыл бұрын
Best line ever - needs to be a gif. And the smile on his face while he says it, it just screams "pilot", hehe.
@SteveD3285 жыл бұрын
Great job on landing the Citation Glider. I have to say I was a little surprised when you said there is no checklist for a dual engine flameout. The Challenger 300s and 350s that I fly have both immediate action memory items plus a checklist just such an emergency, although it is not normally practiced in the sim. And as I recall the Learjet 40s and 45s did too (it's been more than 12 years since I've flown a Lear and, well, I'm old). Once again, outstanding airmanship, hats off to ya. SteveD328 23,000 hr ATP