HOW NOT TO BREAK YOUR 9800X3D

[@Hardwareunboxed]

Install vertically while standing on one leg, got it. Thank you BZ.

[@lixlax1494]

Waiting for a "How to" video 😅.

[@steven44799]

I have built north of 1000 systems, I was not aware of this superior installation technique, if I hold my tongue the wrong way, will that matter?

[@donmcafee5785]

Try installing it vertically while running at 4k?Plz?

[@aquinamedia4508]

Verge made a great video on PC building, check that if you feel lost at any point

[@marios3761]

@@steven44799 You are supposed to hold your tongue a certain way, only while licking the pins, you don't need to keep it like that afterwards, rookie question!

[@kaizerlock8287]

DO NOT CHEAP OUT ON YOUR CHILDREN'S EDUCATION. Buying that 2$ shape-matching toy for your kid will worth it in the long run.

[@jocerv43]

Dont forget they all go in the square hole!

[@T0X1C89]

@@jocerv43 that's the problem here, they didn't put them in the square hole

[@AcidRP]

@@jocerv43 it's time to add a notch

[@N-A762]

I laughed way to hard at this

[@GewelReal]

​@@AcidRPis notched square still a square?

[@albundy06]

They could both be the next PC builders for the verge

[@XeonProductions]

But they were wearing a livestrong bracelet, it should have stopped any damage.

[@MarkLangdahl]

To be fair the guy from The Verge did manage to get the computer to post. Even if he did use a brick instead of a PSU and tweezers for nonexistent cable management...

[@user-wq9mw2xz3j]

@@MarkLangdahl i never watched the video but i dont remember seeing any real argument for why it was so horrible. unjustified hate

[@conyo985]

Even the Verge did something right by not burning the CPU. These two are worse!

[@SlyNine]

Or former

A customer came in with a bent CPU and chipped substrate in one corner. Asked him how he got that much damage, he told me he forgot to put the processor while the motherboard was out of the casing and didn't want to take it out because it was a pain installing it vertically with the IO shield... Asked him why he didn't tilt the casing horizontally, told me he didn't want to scratch the casing. 1000$CAD damage not to scratch a 70$ casing. People are stupid. Good analysis.

[@AdrianOkay]

What about people with massive GPUs sagging (4090) which could easily be solved by keeping the PC case horizontal, but they don't do it because they say it looks ugly, and then they wonder why their GPUs bend and die after one year of use

[@jorge69696]

@@AdrianOkay Horizontal takes more space which people mght not have.

[@TheTeflon490]

​@@jorge69696in the old days this problem was solved by putting the monitor ON the desktop case 😀 And back then the monitors weren't exactly lightweight either, compared to LCDs today.

[@karambiatos]

@@AdrianOkay okey but how about shipping your massive fuck off gpu with a piece of support plastic. Casings have been made to sit vertically almost exclusively for over 30 years now....

[@mleise8292]

In such situations I place the case on my bed. Quick & easy, no scratches.

[@riba2233]

I like when people do something completely wrong and then complain on internet like why did this happen to me?

[@funkintonbeardo]

I believe this shows a flaw with the socket. There will always be dumb users and AMD should've accounted for that in their design.

[@Axisoflords]

​@@funkintonbeardo"2 People out of 10s of millions couldn't figure out how to properly install a CPU, let's blame AMD for this." You sound like the people who were responsible for shampoo bottles needing warning labels.

[@Us3rN4m32]

@@funkintonbeardothat would be impossible given the many of ways a user could mess this up

[@ruxandy]

@@funkintonbeardo, dumb users should not build their own PC, there are computer shops for that. Also, no, there's nothing wrong with the socket, it's all Newton's fault - we were all fine until he invented gravity! /s

[@thelasthallow]

@@funkintonbeardo you are high, do you work for user benchmark? this is TWO in TWO YEARS. thats a 0.000000000000001% Failue rate.

[@gamingvibrations5320]

That this has to be "news" is absolutely mindblowing.

[@mrturbo84]

It is News because this could potentialy freak People out not to buy that CPU because what if nobody saw the Socket Damage. Also it is now educational for some People who might start building a PC for the first time. There was also a Problem with some Mainboards in thr Past that destroyed them self with new CPUs but i can not remember when it was.

[@gamingvibrations5320]

@@mrturbo84 I understand it's for PR purposes because there were issues with prior launches. The reason and situations behind it is what is ridiculous to me.

[@Matty-rn5gt]

Are you sure the user didn’t just lick the back of the CPU before insertion? I mean some people REALLY like this CPU.

[@parlor3115]

😛😛😛

[@Wasmachineman]

god damn it BZ for hearting this comment 💀

[@kreozello]

Well, I could've done that w no shame! 😁 Except I'll manage with the installation and ensuring nothing will ruin this piece.

[@heirtothethrone000]

So he drooled on his motherboards cpu slot 😂😂😂

[@Hell4Gamers]

Good call on the vertical thought process. Never would have thought of it myself, because it feels so unnatural to consider doing such a thing.

[@ShinrinColeLP]

yeah.. I've never installed a processor vertical.. I usually lay the case on it's side on a cloth to take out the processor if i need to take it out or put one back in.

[@Zigglegarf]

You could probably get away with it on a PGA socket, but after having owned Socket 478, AM2+, AM3+ and AM4, I can honestly say this is the first time I've considered it.

[@tomthomas3499]

Same, been building me own pc for a decade and never i installed cpu vertically, my big brother teach me the correct way is for the cpu to fall in slot naturally, and not pushed like if you did it vertically.

[@FuneralParty-rsf]

Can imagine if amd and intel took these lunatics seriously we wouldn't be able to buy motherboards and CPUs separately all of them or most of them will be soldered together

[@Enakaji]

@@Zigglegarf I actually did it a few times with AM4, out of pure laziness. Can confirm it works with a PGA socket, since the Pins on the CPU kinda hold it in the correct position even before you lock it and there is no retention bracket that has to be folded down so you can hold the CPU the whole time but I'd never even think about doing it with an LGA system since there is nothing that holds the CPU aligned without that retention bracket closed.

[@protator]

* place CPU in socket * activate brain * drop the latch, then, with a finger of your other hand, put pressure on the CPU so it stays in place when you pull the other fingers away * close the retention mechanism fully * be proud of yourself * realize that mounting the CPU cooler in this orientation is going to be a major PITA * double down and fight gravity for the next ten minutes * enjoy new CPU with bad temps from bad cooler mount

[@bodowoehner7859]

🤣

[@kosmosyche]

That's why I always mount the cooler first.

[@douglasmurphy3266]

And now there are pictures, and headlines circulating the clickbait-verse that we overwhelmingly don't click on but the mental seed is planted among many that AMD now have a combustable CPU problem.

[@sabrevanson4412]

only sensational people would just blindly listen. An educated person would see a click bait, and then check a reputable source. Like J2cents, or Hardwareunboxed. Before it was confirmed to be human error, my initial thought was, products can have a 1-2% failure rate in the wild. So, i was thinking it was just one of the 1-2% of bad ones.

[@rangerdanger572]

Well news sites use the headline to draw people in but reading the article just says that the guy messed up installing it, but people only read the headline so it perpetuates

[@jeffb.6642]

this has to be false news propagated by Intel

[@PainIs4ThaWeak85]

BZ, you're giving humanity too much credit. If people can't be bothered to educate themselves on how to install a CPU, they're probably not capable of 1. Finding your video, and 2. Comprehending it.

[@roberttrisca8210]

why would you need education to place cpu in ?

[@tomaszszupryczynski5453]

its not rocket science, manufacturers cut costs and buy cheap low quality parts, you can see somebody didnt trim properly that socket also that plastic is soft and low quality, bottom notch doesnt look like it should

[@prototypep4]

​@roberttrisca8210 Clearly these two mouthbreathers who are whinging online are examples of why having not room temp IQ is necessary to install the CPU

[@coolhand4598]

They shouldn't be writing articles or making videos that AMD CPUs are exploding. Its Intel fake news propaganda or something

[@WayStedYou]

@@roberttrisca8210 look at the guys username and take a guess

[@PowellCat745]

Did a bunch of people who have never used an LGA socket all decided to upgrade to the 9800X3D?

[@fleurdewin7958]

They probably came from Slot 1 motherboards from Pentium 2 era

[@damienasmr922]

Console gamers

[@datajunkie3382]

@@damienasmr922 That was my first thought

[@PowellCat745]

@@damienasmr922 I think you're right. I've never thought about that.

[@hmst5420]

@@fleurdewin7958 AM4 to AM5 is enough :D

[@tealdolphin3721]

10/10 analysis as always. ILM pressures can get very strong, definitely enough to break through the plastic socket.

[@Lookingformorefun]

that's one flimsy plastic

[@flexxx222]

@@Lookingformorefun every plastic is flimsy if the lever is long enough. And it is.

[@shaneeslick]

G'day Buildzoid, & Tom's Hardware didn't see this in the photos they posted either instead Questioning MSI about the situation, great investagative journalism 🤦‍♂

[@ruxandy]

Tom's Hardware went the way of the Dodo the day that Thomas Pabst left.

[@BillyONeal]

But if the investigated, they wouldn't have been able to write this stupid clickbait article

[@TLM-Nathan]

Don't forget the large KZbinrs making videos about it (JayzTwoCents for example).

[@LunarLambda]

@@TLM-Nathan Jay said it was almost definitely user error though?

[@TLM-Nathan]

@LunarLambda Maybe after 10 minutes of mindless rambling and his click bait title. Puts him on the same level as the "writers" at Tom's Hardware.

[@toufusoup]

These guys definitely are UserBenchMark reviewers lmao

[@shaneeslick]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@rankcolour8780]

As someone who routinely delids CPUs and has never broken one yet seeing them get smushed into oblivion while being installed carelessly is mind boggling.

[@aberkae]

Gives brute force approach whole new meaning 😅.

[@dan1234ful]

Yea, with how those tiny spring contact in the socket are so incredibly delicate that I cannot imagine anything other than extremely carefully putting the CPU down on them. While also checking the aliment like 10 times over.

[@HoLDoN4Sec]

since you're routinely deliding CPU's i have a question. what is the point of deliding CPUs anymore? i mean, Intel CPU's have been garbage for the past 3 years and have been pretty much shipped out of the box in their highest possible stable clock settings (albeit they still degraded themselves into oblivion but i digress). and AMD Ryzen CPUs were never really designed with overclocking in mind, albeit the AM5 platform made overclocking AMD cpus a bigger possibility for Ryzen. Deliding made sense back with the Intel Extreme HEDT platform, and when Threadripper didn't cost an arm and a leg, but nowadays isn't it just kind of pointless?

[@rankcolour8780]

@@HoLDoN4Sec Exactly the same reasons and benefits as for intel. Temp, power, stability, clocks, headroom.

[@epeksergastis]

@@HoLDoN4Secintel alder lake CPUs are absolute monsters to this day.

[@hammerth1421]

AMD: _puts keying notches on ZIF socket to make sure everything lines up_ Users:

[@Lookingformorefun]

amd could do better job to be honest !

[@mainsource8030]

@@Lookingformorefun theres a reason shampoo has instructions on it and a warning not to drink, they could never do enough for some

[@Lookingformorefun]

@@mainsource8030 maybe user has problems with eyes and was too pumped to test performance

[@MyPlaylistGaveMeADS]

​​@@Lookingformorefunif the user has problem with their eyes then maybe they shouldn't be building computers similar to if someone has problems with their eyes they shouldn't drive vehicles. Don't blame the vehicle manufacturer for your inability

[@j3m638]

stupidity & incompetence are always looking for friends. So much so that generally the best rule of thumb is to realize when there's only one way to do a thing, and then make sure you do it.

[@julfy_god]

you should clarify that mobo should be horizontal with cpu socket oriented UPWARDS, bcs there will definitely be some people that will misunderstood this

[@ActuallyHardcoreOverclocking]

LMAO

[@DKTAz00]

'Upwards', too ambiguous, 'Socket pins towards the sky'

[@Clumaex]

_CPU pins to the sky *noted_ /s

[@exomart]

@@DKTAz00 Points the socket to sky in the horizon, making the mobo vertical again.

[@Lookingformorefun]

@@DKTAz00 Someone will build PC outside in the middle of rainstorm and blame youtuber for burned house. Or for receiving very unhealthy doze of lightning and tree branches to the head.

[@jaredmulconry]

6:47 As someone who bent pins on a R7 1700 on first install, I agree that someone should have stopped me building that PC.

[@ActuallyHardcoreOverclocking]

eh bent pins happen. Especially on PGA CPUs.

[@Lookingformorefun]

They need to make better sockets ! Just make one corner round or triangle add some kind of horns for example. That would be so easy.

[@HoLDoN4Sec]

@@Lookingformorefun actually i think a better socket option would be using ball pin array - this will eliminate the possibility of bending pins, and it would allow for easier install even for idiots like these two lol this approach does has its negatives tho, first and foremost it would mean that a CPU socket would have to potentially be around 30% bigger

[@hstefan]

@@Lookingformorefun they literally have notches that prevent the CPU from being installed any other way than the right way. Also there's a golden triangle that has to align with the triangle on the socket. How simple does it really have to be? LOL

[@bubsy3861]

it's depending of how bad it was bend

[@jabezhane]

I had a AM4 gaming rig in a few months ago where the guy had decided to re apply his paste and then the machine wouldnt boot. I got it in and yup, nothing going on. In the end I removed the cooler and went "Oh!" Yep he had put it back 90 degrees rotation out. I put it back as it should be and it then worked fine luckily. He just went "oh I didnt know it had to go in a certain way!" I did have a kid slap a i7 from a newer gen in a older socket and he bust all the substrate all around. Good work!

[@PCMcGee1]

Close enough for government work.

[@griffin1366]

she'll be right m8

[@stennan]

The guy who's cars were well known for their panel gaps and loose screws who will run the governments efficiently department: "Fits like a glove! My job here is done'

[@c99kfm]

My experience, as someone who works in government, is sort-of the reverse of the meaning of that expression. Most of my coworkers would be most aptly described by, "perfection can be the enemy of the good enough". When "deadlines" aren't, and bosses generally don't enforce those that are, workers tend to want to get everything perfect, even if it means three times the work needed for 99.9%. To be honest, that's my default mindset as well. I have been trying to change it, but it's hard to know when I've hit "good enough", so I'm actually using the very foreign concepts of "beta testing" and "end user testing". If the people who are to use it think that it's good enough, then it probably is, even if my heart aches at the imperfections.

[@LawrenceTimme]

Not until doge gets on your case.

[@tho4318]

I've been guilty of installing a CPU vertically before, actually to be more precise, I had to change my AIO, and in the process involve having to remove the standard Intel locking mechanism, opted to be lazy and not take out the whole motherboard, I tried doing it vertically with the MB still in the case. I noticed an issue with my GPU after the install as it wasn't running at PCIE 4.0 x 16, but instead it was doing it at x 4, after days of troubleshooting, ended up finding out that I bent my CPU corner right where it was responsible for PCIE lanes, because the CPU likely moved as I was mounting it vertically. Damaged pins and CPU, had to replace both the MB and the CPU.

[@mrturbo84]

How much was the Price of learning?

[@tho4318]

@@mrturbo84 about 800, since I ended up upgrading to a 14700k (the one I broke was 12700k)

[@Terrados1337]

The thought of dropping a CPU and bending pins the harrowing. The thought of somehow managing to misalign a CPU in an AM5 motherboard is curious. The thought of closing the bracket hearing a crunching noise, seeing at the CPU clearly isn't aligned properly (granted your optometrist might be bad at their job), and bending your neural circuits to the decision of turning on your PC-turned-oven is mind boggling.

[@JJFX-]

Mounting the cooler to this makes it much worse. It's not that hard to slightly misalign then latch the CPU but now it's sitting higher than it normally would. Mounting the heatsink would shift it even more and this force explains how it stamped a perfect notch into the plastic. The only thing more absurd than all of this is taking it out and uploading a picture because you think it malfunctioned. I have a feeling they knew and that's why they angled the photo that way but who knows.

[@OreoMcFluffy]

0:19 Ngl I thought this would be the end of the video

[@tanmaypanadi1414]

You must be new here for Buildzoid this is a short video. meanwhile a normal buildzoid video is 4+ hr

[@Armi1P]

You gotta give it to them, they must have superhuman strength to close a socket in a state in which it can't be closed theoretically. That must have taken force.

[@ActuallyHardcoreOverclocking]

I don't think the socket plastic is that hard and the loading mechanism has a lot of leverage

[@mirror1766]

@@ActuallyHardcoreOverclocking sockets are definitely not too strong vs the leverage of latching mechanism

[@niikon]

@@ActuallyHardcoreOverclocking Also, keep in mind they mounted a cooler on top of it :)

[@marcinabonski292]

"Avoid damage to your components just by not being an idiot" - BZ 2024. I think I tried installing vertically once on AM4 and the pins actually held it in place, but on AM5 I just put it down and my 9800X3D still works :)

[@blower1]

Little kid doesn't deserve the CPU replaced either - it will be a good lesson for them that in life if you are incompetent or an idiot then there are consequences.

[@NJ-wb1cz]

Or they will form a disgust towards labor and nerds as a self defense mechanism against feeling loss and self blame, and will become a clueless boss instead Narcissists and sociopaths often come from an inhumane environment where their emotions weren't cared for. So they grow up never caring about the emotions of others

[@konradukasiewicz4834]

Time to put the circle in to the square hole...

[@umeng2002]

Stuff like this in PC building never ceases to amaze me.

[@SavageSeven-ed3xd]

Incorrect installation: I didn't think I would need that much force to close the bracket. Correct installation: that's cause you don't need that much force that close the bracket.

[@ActuallyHardcoreOverclocking]

The intel HEDT sockets and LGA1700 still scare me every time I close the latch.

[@lePurpleDragon]

@@ActuallyHardcoreOverclocking It's unnatural how rectangular it is. I hated it. Glad to be done with that platform.

[@ViniciusMiguel1988]

Buildzoid is being so cute having the patience explaining this, buildzoid deserves a hug 🤗

[@hit-757]

Natural selection.

[@lePurpleDragon]

I'm fine, so long as these porker incels never breed and never leave their basement/attics. I want way more welfare; keep these creatures at home. I'll pay the extra taxes to keep these dumbasses away from anything public.

[@namansoood]

But the CPU did nothing wrong to deserve this 😭

[@lePurpleDragon]

@@namansoood Lol... no one can control who gets their hands on a CPU.

[@tobygroves2112]

If they try to RMA either the CPU or motherboard, AMD and MSI should take one look at the physical damage and tell them to take a hike.

[@jessiethedude]

Unfortunately, Steve from GN offered to buy his parts. idk I think most people could tell by looking that it was just improperly installed

[@JJFX-]

​@@jessiethedudeI think he's just trying to dispel any drama before it gets out of hand like usual but we'll see if he even gets it.

[@Darktician]

(Processors usually come with an instructional leaflet that includes pictures telling you how to install it).

[@tanmaypanadi1414]

RTFM 😂

[@Lookingformorefun]

most people read manuals when things are already broken

[@jclosed2516]

Some users see that leaflet or manual and go: "Ehh - Don't need that stuff. I am not that stupid", only to give me a call when nothing works a few minutes or hours later. Human stupidity knows no boundaries.

[@hovnocuc4551]

if you need a manual to install a cpu into a socket without obliterating it, you don't need a manual but a console...

[@kekoraaaa]

I install the CPU correctly.... only to forget to remove that plastic on the coldplate of my cooler before mounting it 😅

[@Aldarris]

What a great life lesson, don't be an idiot and you'll find yourself in a lot less trouble.

[@matthewharrington420]

“AMD users when they experience LGA for the first time.”

[@matthewharrington420]

I use both AMD and Intel.

[@frandal88]

"You're being a dumbass." Best BZ quote.

[@arch1107]

afik the guy also had a leak on the waterblock, there is always that one guy

[@zorbakaput8537]

My Irish great grandmother once said in regard to intelligence and common sense " You can't put in what God left out" it has some resonance here.

[@AINearlyEpic]

Nothing quite like spending weeks without a computer to save thirty seconds of unplugging lol

[@clintcolombin]

Wait, I'm *not* supposed to be lazy & ignorant when building a computer? I never would have guessed! /s

[@carlospareja2579]

It seems that this guy was too excited to try out his new Ryzen and ended up breaking it.

[@Roobotics]

I'll never forget the cheap "as-is" i5 socket 1151 system I bought, that had the CPU rotated 90 degrees and forced closed. I thankfully never attempted power-on until the full tear-down that revealed soon to be problem, I had a weird feeling.. it was too cheap. That was a good amount of time unbending pins. Got it working though..

[@je5terc0re]

Thanks for quickie Buildzoid

[@Lakia9428]

How to install your CPU properly - Brought to you by Actually Hardcore Overclocking

[@TastyPancake_33]

I have a much better theory: those people did this deliberately to cause drama and to hurt AMD's sales.

[@Retanaru]

"You'd have to be blind to think that this is okay". So 20-30% of people will do it.

[@brett20000000009]

I bet you an actual blind person could do this correctly by feel

[@lucasljs1545]

People need to remember, hardware does not need force, it it is correct it will fit.

[@tkgg]

I was thinking the ILM wasn't seated centrally on the CPU so it overlapped the corner and the force when pushing the latch down just mashed one side of the CPU into the socket. This makes more sense. The word moron did come to mind when I saw this as well.

[@Lu5ck]

Erm. I didn't expect people would do installation at such placement. I mean, it is also pretty difficult to mount the fan vertically.

[@amilo5]

They probably tried to switch the cpu with the motherboard installed and the case standing up!

[@benjaminoechsli1941]

Fair enough, but cases can lay on their back. Unless they're _really_ showing off and installing it in a PC that's still in a cabinet. 🤔

[@andreasdill4329]

@@amilo5 looks like a 800 series Board, this would be new.

[@ChaosPootato]

Inspector Zoid, back at it again

[@kingofstrike1234]

imagine if it's not any kind of troll but a troll scalpers

[@IIHydraII]

*Common sense has left the chat*

[@derios6605]

if that is what happend.... GG i was sitting here thinking "How can you even install a cpu wrong" your explanation actually made sense of "how" it maybe happend

[@Premises187]

Line the CPU triangle with the motherboard socket triangle. Surprised you didn't mention this

[@Doom2pro]

Cavemen should find another hobby.... maybe making big rocks into smaller rocks.

[@antoniel_alpha]

The only thing that came to my mind when I saw this article was the meme of Po asking Master Shifu "How"! LMAO!

[@delgado290690]

Currently, i have built 2 AM5 rigs for friends. People, its not that hard to install, yes i was spooked a bit by the new thing or newish if we count that LGA isn't that new, but just follow the notches/guidelines. May these 9800X3Ds rest in peace, may the owner wallets never recover.

[@supernova1163]

Lol that redditor was raging when someone said it was his fault for installing it wrong.

[@alejandrocalori6298]

Link pls

[@Knaeckebrotsaege]

@@alejandrocalori6298 can't post links on YT unless you want to get your comment shadowbanned 🤦‍♂

[@SweatyFeetGirl]

he never was raging, only thing he said was an FU to jayztwo2cents cause he kept calling him an idiot. the redditor himself said that it was very likely that he made a human error.

[@The_Noticer.]

soylent spilling everywhere

[@HazewinDog]

people don't want to believe that their poor life choices had a significant, negative result.

[@ADV_PO]

Thank you very much for clarifying and truthful opinion. Yes, we should point out stupidity on the spot and never give any money to idiots.

[@MDFGamingVideo]

New content series? Buildzoid Debunks? Ooohhh...I know: Debunk-zoid!

[@anro_gaming]

Mystery solved!!!

[@Power3DDesign]

The vertical installation is a pretty good explanation for what happened. This was a very tame and helpful video for some silly people out there lol

[@Zullia042]

When a Userbenchmark user decided to try AMD for the first time

[@GFClocked]

imagine spending 600euros and not bothering installing it properly LMAO

[@Micropoint.]

*rich problem.*

[@jrgroberts]

I had a solicitor/lawyer client who managed to force a USB A dongle the WRONG WAY UP into a USB A socket on the front of an HP Workstation - three times. The first two times he got away with it - it didn't work obvs. but the PC continued functioning. The third time it blew up the PC altogether. And I once had the pleasure (?) of trying to repair an electronic kit where the user had inserted every component where he thought it fitted, but not according to type or value or the layout chart. Fun times.

[@krjal3038]

Probably a longer video than necessary but hopefully it was cathartic! Insane that it even needs to be said. Looking forward to more real content when people stop making a fuss about their own mistakes 😁

[@tatsumakijim]

I don't have my 9800X3D yet but this video gives me confidence that it's not going to randomly burn out. Thank you for this education.

[@JJFX-]

I'm just imagining the engineers who first had concerns about releasing consumer LGA boards 2 decades ago that never expected thousands of kids would regularly be tossing $300-500 chips into it on boards that often cost even more.

[@Sonicstillpoint83]

Even if someone was blind, I would have to assume that they could feel that the edges were uneven that it’s sloped at the top. This level of cognitive impairment is truly staggering. The crazier part is doing that and then continuing to put the system together and add power.

[@2vookkme536]

it’s like the 12VHPWR connector, the industry has to engineer for the lowest form of live

[@vaeger2947]

In the case of 12VHPWR there was multiple points of error due to poor design

[@Simon_Denmark]

LGA isn’t nearly as bad as 12VHPWR.

[@LeechyKun]

Gamer Nexus is supposedly buying the burnt CPU from the guy/kid to do a breakdown like what happened when X670 boards were burning CPU's due to the sensitivity of the X3D from CPU vSOC.

[@Anon1370]

eh but in this case that dumbass person is responsible...

[@Chicken-o5e]

User error

[@SubZero_DeZigns]

LOL! Are You Serious?! SMH, I swear, peoples children now a days...

[@SubZero_DeZigns]

Dude probably wrenched those latches down in place. SMH!.... ppl....

[@SubZero_DeZigns]

$480 ? If the people were lucky and got it on launch. On Ally Express they're going for $800 Boxed. And only one Seller has them. 6 Sold probably more now. Only had 20-25 on hand at the time of publishing.

[@randomguydoes2901]

Spoiler: Square goes in the square hole

[@tristankordek]

3:52 Blindness won't cause that much damage, I know because I sometimes build PCs with my eyes closed (yes, I know it's weird, but it's pretty fun). When your sense of "sight" is touch, you'll clearly feel that the CPU isn't seated properly in the socket, even if it's not parallel to the motherboard and, most importantly, it's not wobbling between the walls of the socket, not to mention the difference in force required to close the ILM.

[@aeropb]

Nice job buildzoid.

[@mirror1766]

Reddit post also has at least 2 bent pins in areas away from the scorch marks so good handling of hardware seeming more and more unlikely. I always did a mix of looking before for both damage+debris (hairs and stuff sneak in otherwise) which rarely but sometimes caught damage before starting and then do a mix of physical feel (wiggle room and such) + visual confirmation for seating CPU and RAM as I know from experience that I find errors that I cannot stop with just 1 or the other. I have done vertical component install but it rarely saves anything as I have to slow down a lot to carefully avoid such errors; just avoid it if you have any alternative. I also used to have to inspect other people's work (computer technicians, customers, etc.) and in the end it seems they are all human and things happen even to the best of them. I was still most shocked to learn how nicely corners of some Intel CPUs (nothing against/for them but its where I first saw it) permanently flexed under such improper installs.

[@uhm9355]

this is why testers exist, you're never more suprised by how folk can utterly not follow instructions

[@TM1337FalconPunch]

I bent the pins on my fiance's 5600x because I forgot that the thing next to the socket was a locking mechanism and I needed to use it. Thankfully I managed to realise my error before I broke anything, put the pins back in position, now it works as if I was a genius the whole time.

[@wiedehopf9068]

7 min buildzoid video? you working the algorithm now? unbelievable who do you think you are !? :)

[@kboussa]

It was funny. Specially the end. Thanks Steve.

[@thedeegee1601]

This all everyone needed to know. User error, no RMA, better luck next time.

[@Karol-g9d]

Take the lotes DC:2427 . If it touch the plastic socket , take a file and clean it so metal does not touch plastic socket . Its stamped metal .it's normal metal need to be filed slightly off to have slight clearance

[@FireGodSpeed]

And that's why instructions and safety labels exist for basically anything. It says "warning hot surface" on my 3D printers heated bed. Are you serious? A heated bed is hot? No way. Unboxing something new and it has a plastic cover over it the good old "Keep this plastic bag or film away from children to avoid suffocation". Ain't no way people are seriously this dumb. At work we got water bottles with names on them for who knows what reason, there were instructions how to use it, someone had to write instructions how to use a water bottle. I thought i was dreaming for a sec, this can't be real.

[@samuellopez-je9nw]

thanks for the public service announcement. much needed

[@NANOTECHYT]

Instructions unclear, CPU is now stuck in a blender.

[@ivan.rusanov]

Good call! I didn't think about the possibility they have tried to install it on a vertical mobo. That probably explains it.

[@SMGJohn]

Dad wont like to hear his kid trashed 900 euros worth of equipment.

[@tudomerda]

I'm so dissapointed that heating canned food is a thing of the past, "Stand in boiling water for 10 minutes",

[@Cabl3Guy]

lmao 🤣🤣🤣 Some people should't be buidling PCs. Thanks for the entertainment 😆

[@WolvenSpectre]

This is the difference between LGA and PGA. If you are going from PGA which can be installed vertical with a slight chance of not being inserted correctly, vs the newer Ryzens that switched to LGA and are very easy to misinstall, especially vertically, among other problems, and should be installed horizontally and CHECKED after install. I have heard of this issue happening but usually without enough power to burn the CPU and Pins but just cause some delam and pins needing cleaning when you install your new CPU.

[@satsumagt5284]

I much prefer PGA, not to mention that PGA actually allows for fully delidded CPUs like the ones from Socket 462- without any fancy latching mechanism, just the stock one.

[@Tech-Tide2387]

You are absolutely correct This is exactly what happened I installed my 9800x3d vertically because my system is custom liquid cooled I have been doing it years from Intel CPU sockets and it is very tricky to do it correctly and safely without damaging the CPU or the socket itself but what I am surprised about though is they must’ve realised the force they were having to put on the leather to close the CPU socket was excessive

[@Vivicect0r]

Me, triple-checking everything before connection: I am probably overthinking. People installing CPU vertically while even unable to see how it sits there:

[@emiliofederici9459]

The PC gaming boom is leading a lot of people, who have no idea how to do that, to assemble a PC (which is not rocket science but implies a little bit of patience, following instructions and, like everything, comes easier with experience). I've been doing that since the 90s and I've done it also for friends (and even friends of friends) who saw me as the "expert" and preferred to ask me, instead of trying themselves (with just the little instructions written on paper manuals in the boxes). But nowadays people watch a couple of KZbin videos and think they can do anything themselves (and this happens also for potentially more dangerous things, like car manteinance). I guess these are the same people who didn't plug correctly the 12VHPWR connectors (that I agree sucks and has already been revised) on 4090s. Or maybe they even do those messes on purpose, for the sake of hitting views and reactions to their social posts, but I wanna hope ppl has gotten so obsessed by it to damage thousands dollars devices for the algorithm.

[@NonLegitNation2]

I don't get it. I actually just upgraded from AM4 to AM5 about a month ago. Before this I had never had a PC with an LGA socket (I have always had AMD which was PGA) but I still had the common sense to know that the CPU just sits in the socket, it doesn't require me to push on it to set the CPU and I knew that the notches on the CPU sides should match up with the notches that stick out on the socket.

[@LordHypnosis]

I've seen pictures of AM4 CPUs jammed into the AM5 socket so I'm not too surprised. It's like the old joke of forcing a square rod through a triangle hole.

[@fernando7650]

Instructions unclear, I laid the mobo down with all the CPU pins facing up, now it's broken. Thank's Buildzoid!

[@TheArakan94]

I hate that journalists write about this seriously and throw out these wild accusations at manufacturers.. Their headline should be: Don't be an idiot - here's how to install your Ryzen CPU correctly. And this would probably get a lot of clicks too..