Acura Vigor / Honda Accord Axle, Upper Control Arm, Strut Replacement -EricTheCarGuy

Not that long ago I did a video about inspecting your suspension for faults. I used my 1993 Acura Vigor for this video. In the video it was clear that my upper control arms, axles, and struts needed attention. This video answers to those issues and is a step by step representation of the process of replacing these components on my Acura Vigor. There aren't many Acura Vigors out there, but there are plenty of Honda Accords. In fact, the information in this video will apply to Honda Accords from 1990-2002.
To me this doesn't seem like a difficult job, but you may have to deal with rust and other issues that older vehicles often present as you'll see in the video. I'm also fortunate enough to have a wall mounted spring compressor that makes things easier. If you don't have access to one of these spring compressors, I'd recommend you take the struts to a shop that has one. You would only pay a fraction of the cost of the full job if you were just having the struts changed out. Something to consider if you're looking to do this job yourself.
That said, be sure to follow safe repair procedures to avoid injury. Outside of that, you'd be saving yourself quite a bit of money doing this work yourself. I can attest to the fact that the ride was greatly improved after I did these repairs. Can't wait to put some new tires on to finish the job.
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[@sjekoken614]

This is a good example of why Eric is king! Sure, there are other people doing other videos, but they all fall into one of two categories. Either they're an amature trying to sell you on some God awful whacked out, shortcut that does more harm than good, or they're a mechanic's shop using a cleaned up, newer, car, and editing out any problems with seized bolts, sheared bolt heads, etc ... Eric throws an older, rusted up, car up on the lift and shows you how a professional deals with the good, the bad, and the ugly, of it all.

[@inakiojinagaazkorra9470]

I admit I am a bit late with this comment, Eric, (only 8 years late!), but its great to see someone who has the knowledge and the tools, especially that suspension spring press, doing a great job. I have a carbureted 1989 Honda Accord Ex and, looking through the shop repair manual this morning, I see that it basically has the same components, except my car not having an anti-lock brake system. Not that I'm going to do that sort of work anytime soon, but I enjoyed your video. Thank-you Eric.

[@wackjob67]

It's always satisfying to watch Eric work on cars, especially when everything goes so smoothly, it's like cutting through butter with a hot knife, just. So. Satisfying.

[@dannyr333]

Honestly if this was at a shop this would be about $1000 dollar job without even the parts included so this dude knows what he doing Car repair is so expensive I’m been in automotive job for about a month yesterday we took out cv axle Eric did this and made this look easy I mean suspension work is easy but those frozen bolts and nuts are the hard part Stay good Eric man! Gr8 vid

[@somyongai8194]

Is it bad that I go back and re-watch my favorite videos on your channel while waiting for more to come out?

[@tonytall5750]

i do the same thing

[@aswallace88]

No, it's a great thing.

[@macro820]

Gonna be changing some brakes this weekend, dreading the rust! Thanks for all your awesome work Eric! Always love the videos.

[@PorscheRacer14]

Miss my dad's old '93 Vigor LS. Those cars went forever with general maintenance and make for great winner cars. Great video +ericthecarguy with useful tips and tricks.

[@samjohnson466]

You performed that job with such vigor. Pun intended. Thanks Eric very informative.

[@Jake-im2lv]

I do not envy the amount of rust some folks put up with. Here in Australia I'm so lucky, a couple of my cars are over 30 yrs old and I don't have half as much crusty rust underneath the car. Lot of respect for flat rate techs in the rust belt...

[@AttilaTheHun333333]

Nice to see you keep an eye on your old Vigor. My second car is a Rover 620 wich is basically a Honda Accord, so I'm grateful for all of your Vigor uploads. THANK YOU Eric and Brian!

[@seephor]

I really love the pace and video production here Eric. I can see a huge improvement in your video guy. It looks very professionally done.

[@justindasilva73]

Eric I've said this before I'm an automotive student at my high school I'm proud of myself as I got top student but that's besides the fact. Yourvideos help me impress my teachers as I've learned most of my knowledge from you I want to be a master mechanic when I get older at hopefully a Honda dealer as that's where my dad was a master mechanic so I just want to thank you for your videos I really hope you see this comment

[@ericthecarguy]

justindasilva73 Thank you very much for that comment. Good luck in school and with your career.

[@gregagnew9777]

Eric, it's my opinion that the early 90's Honda/Acura cars were the best looking and driving. Please update us on how shes handling after the new parts. Great videos, keep them coming!

[@johnferguson7235]

It's a great chance to replace the brake hoses. I recently replaced them on a 98 Volvo V90 and it made a big difference. The original brake feel returned; much nicer to drive.

[@solwogan5356]

just did these exact things on my CRX :) I'm a big boy, now!

[@DanielRichards644]

Just an FYI for those reading, and this is really only for the guys that LOWER the car, a company called SPC makes a "sliding" ball joint that bolts in replacing the stock upper ball joint in the control arm (that requires cutting an access hole above) that gives you a camber adjustment upwards of +3* over stock, I had 18's with 215/35 tires and could just tuck the tire and still have PERFECT camber on my accord, the fun trick was getting it on and off the alignment rack.

[@bv2eq]

It looks like Eric also started adapted to electrical wrench. Dragging hoses day finally comes to the end. I love my Milwaukee m18 fuel.

[@davidprice2861]

That is a bigger job than I thought, well done Eric.

[@JeepJohn]

EricTheCarGuy I am a Jeep guy, and live in the central rust belt. There is one thing I have learned.. Anti-seize! Copper/silver not going to say a brand or type preference. But one thing i know. When dealing with rust and a vehicle you plan on maintaining. If you have a fight removing it. Add a light coating of some form of Anti-seize. To aid next time you go to remove it. I also use Dielectric grease for metal to plastic fastens. As they too will rust and lock into there home. Do remember when using any grease on a torque sensitive bolt. Need to adjust torque aka Ft-lb/Nm. In the case of Anti-seize (Most) reference material I have seen list a reduction of applied torque by 50%. Due to the now lubricated threads. But check your application specific material. they almost always have a chart for the different type of grease. The main specs are listed for clean/dry threads. Also, Do not mix Anti-seize and thread-lock... IDK why someone would but i have seen it... If you want to use anti-seize and wish to insure a bolt holds torque. I would suggest some form of lock washer. There are many types out there and even high vibration for industrial applications. All vary in price from dirt cheap to cost more then one would believe, One thing to note when using Anti-seize... After a few days of driving it is always good practice to check/re-torque all bolts you worked on. Now that I have been using this stuff. I never have to fight when removing/repairing my Jeeps. And the time alone it has saved me is well worth a bottle of Anti-seize. As a side note.. In a pinch. axle grease will also help but does not seem to last as long and is more easily washed out. As a resent case. I had to replay two Tie rod ends on my Jeep Wrangler. They had been in place for a little over 5 years. After removing the cotter pin and the nut, Just had to use a wrench to release the lock washer and the Joint retreaded from the tie rod bar by hand. Super simple, No rust on the treads. looked like brand new.. Hope that helps...

[@cobra454tim]

I'm guessing Gabriel shocks?....

[@rommelbryce-thurton7721]

Never seize Eric on every thing

[@perryreasch1499]

in New York for sure

[@Retroweld]

As always, great video Eric. I really enjoy your work. Douglas

[@lineartechbd1600]

Hey Eric, I just bought a ten piece 10mm to 19mm set of 3/8 drive long metric impact swivel wobble sockets by Cal Hawk for 60 bucks free shipping. They are made in Taiwan (which is usually better than china) and crmo. They seem nice and come with a case and you can't beat the price. I am convinced that all of these companies are selling the same sockets made in the same factory but having the factory put their name on it. The Cal Hawk set looks identical to the grey pneumatic set to me and even the case looks the same. They also sell a nice 12 piece 1/4 drive impact set which I also bought.

[@donaldgodin3491]

Great videos Eric! Fun to watch and learn at the same time. If you were around my place , you would be my garage man! That's for sure.

[@alexdelatorreh]

is really nice to see you back on hondas and very good quality of videos thanks to the camera men im a fan of you from guadalajara jalisco mx. master Eric

[@justsumguy2u]

After watching this video, I wondered how many car owners were told by unscrupulous shops that they needed an entirely new front end, when only several parts were worn? You took the time to diagnose what was wrong, but I'm betting that some shops would see worn upper control arms, make the assumption that everything else was bad, and tell the customer they needed everything replaced.

[@kaibaumgartner7721]

just an FYI, Honda sells those upper strut mount bushings for about 2.50 a piece. That could be the reason why your suspension makes creaking noises over smaller bumps or when its really cold outside. Its a problem in places like Arizona where the rubber crumbles, dry rots or cracks which is a pretty big safety concern.

[@JasonSmith-qx3zh]

Dude you made that look so easy but I know that's good ole experience showing out great vid! The press da bomb !

[@dominikhofmann603]

The thing you said about the lower bolts frozen in the bushings is very true! I had the subframe of my 2001 accord on the floor and tried to remove the lower controlarm, which is mounted with pretty much the same kind of bolt, from the frame. There is no way getting this thing out of there!!! I ended up cutting the controlarm in little pieces so can cut the bolt in little pieces without damaging the subframe^^ it was fun...

[@LMacNeill]

Having lived in the south my entire life (Atlanta, GA, to be specific), I'm always amazed by the rust... I just don't ever have to deal with that much rust. I can take apart a 20-year-old car that has spent its entire life here, and, sure, there's a *little* bit of rust, and sometimes things get a *little* sticky, but I've never *ever* had a cotter pin break off because of it being too rusty to remove. That would drive me nuts!

[@Blazer02LS]

LMacNeill Rust is a fact of life for those of us in the rust belt states. Used to be dealing with only salt, now they are using chloride liquid as well, that stuff causes rust a LOT faster.

[@XDxJasonX]

one great tip someone gave me to remove stuck balljoint is to stick a sledgehammer behind the point your hitting, touching the knuckle. On extreme case it workout well for me

[@anthonyclark9159]

Man I'm so glad I found these videos, I have a 2003 civic that I'd love to keep but stuff is going wrong with it. I've changed my struts and shock assemblies, break rotors and pads, lower tie rod ends. I wouldn't have even tried to do that stuff before, I'm going to be swapping an engine next month and I'm sure it will go smoothly as it can. Thanks

[@SERMAD1]

you are the best in this profession Erick, thank you very much.

[@JPN850R]

I wish the suspension set-up was identical to 2004 TL, but it looks different. I did a complete rebuild on the TL's suspension and it was not bad at all. The most difficult part was replacement of the lower ball joint. Honda's service manual doesn't have a section for this job, but it is a separate part and can be replaced. A hydraulic press is required however to get that thing out. Whenever possible, I replace hardware with stainless steel (True Value is the best source for nuts & bolts, screws, washers, etc...). Sometime soon I would have to do the clutch (running on the original and the odo reading is about 180,000 miles), meaning I would have to do the job again (suspension & the subframe have to come off to separate the 6MT from the motor). I hope the driveshafts come off from the 6MT without a hassle, but I have a bad feeling about the intermediate shaft; I hate circlips/snap rings.....

[@jeroenvde]

Thanks Eric!! I daily drive a 93 accord (the 2liter version with the carburator) and also feel and hear some worn out parts from the front end. I am gonna put your video up to good use once again!

[@TomSommer]

Hey Eric outstanding video. Way over my head but at least I will remember a lot of the procedure. I remain a subscriber.

[@aserta]

I have a warranted reason for keeping the struts clean. You need to see if there's failure in the casing. You can't see that with rusted parts. I've seen cases where there was no leak and it would later crack open. And mind you, i have way smaller a pool of cars in my list than you. I do this for my close friends and relatives because i like it. So i think it's a good reason to either replace them on say, a second hand car (on purchase) or at least clean them and paint them in a tough paint, of which there are many cheap variants. Just my two cents.

[@ericthecarguy]

aserta Finding a failed strut is pretty easy in my opinion. When the oil leaks out, it's bad. Rusted or not, you'll see that as well as feel a difference in ride quality. Thanks for your input.

[@wysetech2000]

Eric may fumble around a bit on other cars but he sure knows his way around his Acura's.

[@spudmunson3976]

Damn you Eric, all those shinny new parts- by the end of the video I felt like I needed to sit my ass in the seat and go for a test drive to feel the new suspension and you denied me that. My day is ruined, I will always wonder how the ride felt with the new parts compared to the old parts.

[@trainsbangsandautomobiles824]

I do miss these 1 hour vids..

[@wilbert-oppegard]

i just did this exact job on 99 accord and this video was extremely helpful. thank you

[@Rotttman]

Really digging the high visual quality

[@mikebarnes3238]

Great video! I miss your repair videos. Good stuff

[@triggeral]

You are so Awesome!! Thank you for take the time to video and share your knowledge

[@jdmeaux]

A good soaking with rust cutter for about 3 days everyday before you begin helps when all you have is hand tools. Yup, I have bent a 3/4 inch drive breaker bar. I should have invested in air tools years ago.

[@TheGreasemonkey87]

Been doing army service for about 4 years now, but man i miss being a mechanic :)

[@oyesimon8112]

People can yah stop asking Eric stupid I know it's annoying him, just watch the video and ask a real question and stop telling Eric what you think he's doing wrong your not the mechanics he is and that's why yah are watching his videos.

[@brucepierce6124]

Goo Job Eric. How about some anti seize?

[@Blazer02LS]

Similar coil over design with a clevis as the Jeep Liberty uses. You need a new tool. You can get a pin punch set that fit's an impact hammer. Or you can take a standard shank and drill it to fit a hardened punch tip. Makes removing rusted pins easier, (also works to drive out bolts).

[@sldpf2113]

What if your car doesn't have a spider condo ? Should I buy one or make one ?

[@mminc81]

YAY! Great Episode Eric!!

[@pugman205]

A very handy video, but sadly it somewhat doesnt apply to my MY2000 Accord as the design of the upper control arm is different, but none the less it will be handy when the time comes to replace them.

[@bigdbassn4489]

As far as installing the axles go, you just push them into the transmission/diff? Seems it would be more to it than that. Thanks for all you do!

[@TJC450]

A test drive would've been nice!

[@robbiebatdorf8333]

+TJC450 my thoughts exactly!

[@trentdallas2118]

Same here, was looking forward to Eric reaction of the change in feel

[@iRiselyTech]

EricTheCarGuy Your advice would be a godsend right now. I have a 1998 Toyota Corolla that has many strange noises. It clunks and such when driving. A popping/clunking noise comes from the rear when driving over bumps etc and a loud clunk comes from the drivers front wheel when steering. Apart from the noises the car doesn't feel or perform any different!

[@SamnissArandeen]

All that rust makes me wanna go out and buy some POR15.

[@Rockardo_]

36:19 "Keep Your Upper Nuts Handy" :3 LOL

[@jlp5137]

Eric the car guy does battle with the cotter pin

[@jgreen302]

For a man who hates rusty cotter pins I would think you would have a stainless steel cotter pin kit. I think mine has 1000 or more and return work would no longer have rusted cotter pins.

[@jetjazz05]

I'm so retentive when I do this kind of thing I would wire wheel the rust off the damper fork, then spray it with some engine enamel paint lol... Actually my Saab lived in Ohio for the first 8 years of its life, looked a lot like this Accord :( I've repainted a LOT of the parts, almost everything I take off, and much to my happiness after 4 years it remains mostly rust free.

[@javiderek31]

Just replaced my rear lca on my integra. Heated around the bolts hit it with my impact and came out like butter. But the passenger side I was only able to remove 1 bolt. I had to cut the rest. Damn rust.

[@carlosnahui4685]

Thank You very much thanks to You learned how to change the Rack Pinion of my Honda.

[@IFallionI]

Eric... you should post the labor price you would charge if you were doing it for someone. Just to give an idea of how much a person can save to diy.

[@ericthecarguy]

IFallionI I purposely avoid that as labor rates vary from place to place. I don't want to be the one that dictates labor rates.

[@BULLETXTC]

+EricTheCarGuy Then at least take it for a ride afterwards! That's all your show needs is a little bit of driving!

[@mohassan5840]

you have done very nice & clean job. keep going. if you can learn people how to check transmission fluid level.

[@cammoxx]

Straight to the alignment shop I go

[@ljaymaster]

very helpful video.exactly what I want to do to my Acura cl.thanks Eric.

[@berniecruz8405]

Eric, when you were talking about the wishbones and how that one bottom bolt sometimes freezes and to not spent the extra time to fuss with the bolt just to get the axle out, why didn't you take the time to wire brush the wishbones and put some sort of coating on them so that in case you ever had to go back to them and like replace the bottom control arms or something, you wouldn't have to fuss with the bolt again? Yes, I seen that it didn't take you much effort to remove the bolt,s but as how you stated sometimes over time the bolts get to a point where you might have to face with them freezing on there, so to be on the safe side, why not clean up the wishbones and coat them to avoid all that?

[@loscaminosdemivida2283]

Love all your videos mr. Erick. Thanks

[@ElectoneGuy]

I'm a huge fan of Sankei 555 control arms when oem are not available.

[@mamaluigi2064]

When it comes to Hondas for me they're only two brands of struts that I use OEM and KYB which I use the ladder most of the time personally I like KYB struts they are my favorite aftermarket strut brand

[@blah7657]

Not me watching this video while I’m slapping back together my new passenger side front strut, new lower control arm, and new ball joint.

[@TheRealFOSFOR]

I watched this vid just to see if I can take the upper control arm out without getting the spring or anything jumping in my face. Seems like there should be no problem. I got one of the joints replaced and now its squeaking like hell. No idea what to do about it but maybe I get some ideas if I take it apart.

[@aswallace88]

This episode brought to you by PENETRATING OIL. Don't enter the shop without it!

[@mopartshemi]

Torque sticks are banned in most garages here in Canada they ware out I have found they are not accurate my self. Go to tighten the part I am fastening and go to put a breaker bar on it and feels loose.

[@milboltnut]

you almost forgot to connect the lower yoke control arm (wishbone) bolt on the passenger side ! ERIC !

[@thehondasteve2292]

Fantastic video - but a question. Is it feasible to have this much work done on an older car like this or should this only be a DIY project. Keep up the excellent work!

[@February54]

Did you loosen the pass side upper control arm nut to get the cotter pin through? I've been taught to never do that. If you need to align the cotter pin hole on a ball joint, only tighten, never loosen because of the taper.

[@axenz1]

Hi Eric, Gas struts compress and it will return back, but Oil struts compress will not return back. correct me if I'm wrong :) Thanks for the video

[@bobbert56]

axenz axtiz all struts are gas struts. actual liquid (i.e. oil) does not compress, it can only move which is why brakes work. the oil found in the strut itself is more lubricant than anything.

[@everything2872]

Gotta upgrade to that Milwaukee York gun. Does great even with extensions

[@nicholaselias8542]

Man I wish the ABS sensor wires came off that easy on a 2007 Mercedes ml350 I worked on a while ago. I decided to disconnect them from the body and leave them on the knuckle.... 150 bucks a pop

[@toddmann4395]

Eric, please do some 3rd gen prelude stuff...you being a honda guy of similar vintage...thanks.

[@nhz013]

monsieur thecarguy de eric, the dude in engineeringexplained stated that the back pads/shims(not metal) on the brake pads kind of insulates heat from being to transfered from braking through the piston to brake fluid extending fluid life. what do you think? i dont like your grey peumatic socket sets, intrigues me to go to ebay and order one. also the gearwrench long wrenches. when i replaced the front struts on my 99 civic, i was scared to unbolt the ball joint, the wishbone and ended up needing help. before this video aired i replaced only one rear struts all by myself. i fought for over an hour and half to take the strut off without unbolting the lower control arm. once i did it everything went very smooth. still have to do the other one and i am not scared. i worked in the dark with 2 worklights. on the wishbone you should have put some silicone or grease where the struts sit. where did you order your oem components from?eb...com?does it matter what kind of environment the parts were stored. i went with ga...riel because i got a lifetime warranty and bought with an employee discount. once i can afford kyb, i plan on swapping them out. extra thnx can you kindly mention the time, roughly, the jobs take on the description or on the website? cameraman brian doesnt know much about repairs; and i dont think he is learning. if i lived around you i would apply for an internship. take care.

[@russellbailey8250]

Hi Eric, do you normally put copper anti-seize on the axles/hub before reassembly? I didn't see you use it this time... Maybe not needed on a small car. Also would it help if you used some on the bolts for those pesky bushings? Handy to know, that's all. Thanks for these vids, helps me when working on my own cars! :)

[@1995RangeRover]

This is a great vid!😎👍

[@buggsyspam]

One big advantage to the aftermarket parts, is that most of the time they are greaseable. However, in this case the new OEM parts will likely outlive this car.

[@krugerblue]

In my personal non professional experience, with struts it is always important the time elapsed since they were manufactured. If you purchase struts that are already several years old (no matter how good they are) - you may and-up with nasty surprises.

[@georgebonney90]

u dnt really hear about these cars in the honda universe but i think the body style is really cool,i wonder if etcg still owns it,and what motors in this thing,very cool,thx etcg

[@biz.cb6]

Eric I know this is your own car but can I ask why you dont feel you need to torque the bigger nuts, most importantly the joints and axles?

[@jaguarke069]

Great vid! also good work on the camera!

[@richardurieric8502]

nice job Mr Eric, than you very much for sharing!

[@dst6619]

nice job. glad to see i'm not the only one that has a couple of oh shit's doing a job like this 😁

[@bigdbassn4489]

Eric, great video as usual. Can you help us understand how to adjust and position the top bolts to help get the camber in its proper adjustment? What did you do to the side bolts of the new control arms to ensure a good alignment after installation? Thanks!

[@miker.5495]

There is now a squeal where there as non before coming from the front passenger side of my accord after replacing the CV axle. Maybe I missed it in the video, but does anything need to be greased/lubed between the CV axle and the hub in the knuckle?

[@blu73]

Good vid as usual EricTheCarGuy... Having done most of this on a different car recently and then watching this makes me realise how much I really buy a impact driver, not sure why I have struggled on without for so long.. Any advice on what one(s) to go for or avoid. I can see you use a 3/8 DeWalt but not managed to see a model number or the like during the vids. Well done on brilliant channel, love watching your repair vids even if i know most of the stuff already - little tips picked up here and there saves much swearing at times :)

[@nhz013]

what you mean is an impact wrench not a driver. if you have the money go for milwaukee 3/8 fuel. erics one is older tech

[@blu73]

nhz013 everywhere seems to call them drivers in the UK but fair does.. I'll look the Milwaukee up, money is always an issue but when it comes to power tools i tend to find paying a premium for a good one is worth the extra outlay of cash.

[@jazbuh1794]

35:40 "Would you like pepper on your salad Sir?" - lol stupid funny!!!

[@amishdude]

I've seen other youtubers making their own penetrating fluid by mixing 50/50 or 70/30 acetone and ATF. Do you have any thoughts or comments on using that stuff?

[@ericg1149]

Any idea on how to get off a upper control arm bolt off the knuckle when its seized? I took off the crown nut and tried hitting with a hammer but nothing 😢

[@megavern72]

No more chicken... or spider condos! Good job!

[@rhkips]

Nobody thinks much of "G" until they come across a car that everything else fails to perform on. The lack of rebound you mentioned is by design. When you buy them new, they (should) come with a tag on the strut rod explaining that when compressed by hand, they won't push back out rapidly like you'll see with most struts. They just use a very aggressive rebound valving, and I'll tell you from side-by-side experience across three major brands on the same car (G, M and K), it makes a difference.

[@18iser]

+rhkips I am from Europe so I never heard of Brand G,M and K so could you please tell me the full names?

[@rhkips]

18iser In North America, that'd be Gabriel, Monroe and KYB (Kayaba in EU/Asian markets). :)

[@marqgunderson1168]

Didn't see it in the video, but I assume it is okay to hammer a bit on the outer end of the CV shaft to seat the inner spline on the retention ring? It won't damage the spider or rollers within the CV joints, will it?