AD 2020-18-01 - Cessna Wing Strut Fitting Cracks

Bill discusses AD 2020-18-01 concerning Cessna strutted aircraft in the latest Post Flight Checklist #011.
SEB95-19
Applies to 172, 182, 205, 210
Service Kit Applicability
172 SK172-147
182 SK182-115
205 SK210-156
210 SK210-156
SEB93-5R2
Applies to 205, 206, 207
Service Kit Applicability
205 SK206-42
206 SK206-42
207 SK206--42 or SK207-19
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[@abbeycox1662]

My 1984 C172P was just inspected for this AD at annual and was perfectly fine. It’s got 12,000 flight school hours and the airframe is still rock-solid. I think the real reason is that these 1970s and 80s Cessnas sell for a 5th of the cost of the new Cessnas but rent at flight schools for about the same, so they are cutting in on Cessna profits. Cessna has an financial interest in creating the perception that the older fleet might have problems. Just follow the money.

[@HangaRatz]

They also based the inspection on unimproved runway operations for fleet 207s. Not sure such a rigorous AD is warranted for the 100 series aircraft. Thanks for watching!

[@manabefamily]

Thanks for the insights on this new AD. Doing the Annual on my R172K (1980) this week. How did the inspection of your Hawk XP in the shop go? Were you able to visually inspect or did you have to use a borescope or other means?

[@HangaRatz]

We'll be inspecting that aircraft in February at annual. We'll do a follow up vid on that effort. Thanks!

[@siedan89]

At 7 min in you miss an important point. .... clarified point states....(i) For airplanes that have accumulated less than 4,000 hours time-in-service (TIS) as of the effective date of this AD: Initially inspect prior to the accumulation of 4,000 hours TIS or within the next 200 hours TIS after the effective date of this AD, WHICHEVER OCCURS LATER.

[@keithcolvin8063]

I love those piston mic stands !! 😂👍

[@williamedmonds9581]

Any new updates on this? I’ve got a R182 that’ll be coming into the shop for it’s annual in about a month. Still can’t find anything really about this AD other than the AD itself or your short explanation I just watched.

[@bobmcgehee1749]

I just had mine checked, no problems.

[@DSeptarov]

This is weird how the older aircrafts are not affected by this AD. Just checked a fleet that I’m working on and realized 172 models only affected after year of 1980 manufacturing. Looks like they lost some procedures during the manufacturing or swapped to the lower quality sheet metal. Thanks for the video, watching that while doing that to one 182 that is affected.

[@HangaRatz]

The older aircraft had the fittings inside the aircraft. I assume.... that Cessna retooled that area to aid in manufacturing to have the strut fittings on the outside of the skins.

[@MrDIAMONDCOR]

How else do these manufacturers make extra money?? They come up with new stuff when cash flow is slow.

[@Ihaveseenthings577]

Isn't that area included in annual inspection for every Cessna Model with wing struts...?

[@HangaRatz]

Should be. However this moves it up to "special emphasis" and forces a mechanic to get out a magnifying glass. Thanks for watching!

[@brianholl3184]

Hey Bill, Larry appreciate the report here. I'm a A&P I.A. up in Alaska and I'm trying to hunt down some pics for inspection purposes with this A.D. which of course would make the inspection process one hell of a lot easier. Any leads on that, regards Brian in Alaska

[@HangaRatz]

Hey Brian, The folks at Skywagons put out a nice vid showing the structure essentially naked. Really helps you get your head around things a bit. Check it out. kzbin.info/www/bejne/l2rNdamwfNOMr6s Thanks for watching!

[@jerrylittle7797]

Nice overview. Part II should include pictures....

[@LTVoyager]

I agree. Need more pictures and less jabbering.

[@waytooslow]

C172 -* 10 rivets, 6 nuts, 12 washers, 6 bolts, two channels of metal = $3,415.00 !!!! add another 3 Large for labor... wow. makes the whole fleet not very inviting

[@j.muckafignotti4226]

I’ve made those exact sounds looking at numerous engineering callouts on commercial aircraft. They always start with “Remove engine I.A.W. B747 AMM….” Every line mechanics favorite B767 write up “F.O. Reports #2 window squealing.” Every line mechanics favorite sign off “Lubed window.” My latest favorite question by owners of GA aircraft, “When can I get my airplane in for an annual?” Mechanics favorite/best answer…NEVER!

[@HangaRatz]

I feel your pain brother!

[@GWAYGWAY1]

That effectively removes a lot of Cessna planes from the fleet worldwide. Too expensive to fix at $15000 and the parts. Especially in Europe when you must go to EASA certified repair station licenced to do 'major' repairs. They really know how to charge.

[@HangaRatz]

Possibly. Then again, if the EASA based aircraft become economically unfeasible maybe we can ship them to the US!

[@terryhagle]

You do a good Yoda imitation

[@HangaRatz]

Do or do not. There is no try...

[@gregobrian867]

Whose mugshot is hanging on the wall, lol?

[@HangaRatz]

Well, if you tell us there's a free HangaRatz T-shirt in it for you! Thanks for watching!

[@gregobrian867]

@@HangaRatz Looks like a younger hairless Bill:-)

[@757MrMark]

Nov 1, 2021 5199 hrs 182P Both sides cracked

[@HangaRatz]

Yipes!

[@brettbetz8801]

Ever seen a 207 from Alaska ? I have. Beat to S**t This AD should only apply to that type for now.

[@HangaRatz]

Yeah, they're rough. Anything with a similar part get rounded up by ADs... :(

[@brucechristie5608]

This video is slow, disorganized and twice as long as it needs to be.

[@HangaRatz]

Bruce, This was our first AD brief. We are trying to improve! But we are trying to answer questions many of our owners and mechanics have. Sort of a tough balance. Thanks much!

[@jhonnyextremo]

I agree.. to long video and comments not to the point... but is a lot to improve .. the crew should review the video and edit it... write a list of points to talk... looks like a very experience mechanic .. but you should only talk about the problem the solution and show some pictures or videos.. we all in aviation know an AD is and how will affect us... we don’t know about the inspection the repair or what is in the kit.... good luck for the next time........ look for someone also to ask questions... not only ask about taking the floor off!!!! Good luck

[@jackbarker1446]

Unprofessional.

[@HangaRatz]

I'll wear a suit next time!... :)

[@cblackmail]

@@HangaRatz 😂😂

[@keithcolvin8063]

I love those piston mic stands !! 😂👍