Adam Asks Van Lathan For His Honest Opinion on the Joe Budden Break Up

Van Lathan gives his opinion on the Joe Budden Podcast situation, also saying that this could be the break up they need to eventually get back together!
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[@emmanuelcrepin773]

When Joe said he didn’t “owe his friends respect” I knew Mal was done 💯

[@jevondriver1787]

That was the final nail in the coffin.

[@crowded_spaces]

Mal was done when Joe told him he wasn’t an owner of the podcast. His cool ass realize he was a worker, but he made so much money he couldn’t live with that.

[@HYO150]

That was it for me and I'm not even on the podcast lol

[@burghcity86]

Facts I knew it was a wrap

[@SamThePandaMan]

*Mal sips water cup*

[@christopherthompson5848]

It was over the moment they left Spotify and then Joe kept dismissing Rory when he was in his bag on the pod. When Rory was talking about his therapy and spiritual journey, Joe acted like a complete asshole. When Joe wanted to be “spiritual” and talk about his therapy he would make everyone shut up and listen.

[@jack23tommy]

I definitely wanted to hear more about the chord story….but the fact that Joe kept making jokes and interrupting made me cringe and turn it off

[@mandeanraje2300]

He really missed out on making that episode an actual good one

[@sngtaylor]

@@jack23tommy yes. I couldn't watch it, it was ugly. I felt horrible for Rory.

[@lio5090]

That episode is when we knew it was all downhill.... how can you lack that much self awareness?

[@yamaha5647]

@Tradin War Stories brodie has to be on Adderall

[@dinojonesjr195]

Joe calling Swizz to congratulate him on giving the performers equity in Verzuz then giving Rory a flat out no to sharing the KZbin money tells you everything you need to know. Dudes a hypocrite. Was never about the creators. It was about the Benjamin’s

[@hegeliandianetik2009]

They were still very well paid

[@tinamarie4]

An already established KZbin I wouldn’t

[@JFKjr-gp7lf]

Yo the way he fired them in front of the world says alot about Joe

[@st.charlieboyz7168]

Yep Joe a Bytch

[@crowded_spaces]

Not really they were already Kicking his back in publicly. The moment Joe does it niggas get said. Y’all niggas weird. Just because Joe doesn’t take all the dissed personally doesn’t mean they weren’t coming.

[@b.o.1951]

When they decided to try publicly shame dude was the first blow.

[@calw8085]

Cut the bs. They got on him in public which granted that response.

[@JFKjr-gp7lf]

@@calw8085 c'mon all that shit he talked Spotify n he ain't even paying his day 1 right. He is hypercryut

[@millardfilmore1403]

Biggest mistake Budden made was treating Rory and Mal like dispensable employees rather than integral aspects of the podcast

[@KO-OG-Passport-Bro-1997]

They were fucking USELESS on the podcast!!!!

[@jampanther8846]

But they are! Took them years to open up on the pod. Joe had to keep pushing the pod most episodes. Mal always acting to cool and was always on his phone and being quiet like he ain't want to be there. Rory came into himself over the past year.

[@KO-OG-Passport-Bro-1997]

@@jampanther8846 Exactly!!

[@miguelangelthomas5154]

@@KO-OG-Passport-Bro-1997 maybe but Joe's numbers took a huge hit after they left. If he felt they weren't bringing anything, he should have handled it differently. Now many of the people that rocked with Joe just see him as scummy for the way he treated his peoples on air and the resulting chaos that has followed.

[@KO-OG-Passport-Bro-1997]

@@miguelangelthomas5154 I don't think it was a HUGE hit though. KZbin numbers still looking good though

[@Moneyfromthecraft]

I knew budden was on bullshit when Mal sided with Rory cause he’s known Budden for wayyyy longer

[@Rouberth]

Mal is jealous of Joe. Thats why he sided with Rory

[@jja3305]

@@Rouberth you sound dumb

[@Youngkamikaze]

@@jja3305 Really dumb

[@JeoJetsonmusic]

@@Rouberth super dumb

[@JeoJetsonmusic]

Mal is too real. He has a moral code and he stands on it.

[@wajootube2075]

I had almost never missed JBP for years until joe back stabbed them. Now I don't even care what joe does

[@duntrog54]

Backstabbed??,,,the internet wins again 😂

[@humblebragger500]

@@duntrog54 robbing them. Is that better for you my guy??

[@_r.i.t.z._81]

@@humblebragger500 didn’t do that either

[@juangotti2202]

@@_r.i.t.z._81 Joe obviously was smugging the numbers to save on taxes and not pay rory and mal more money that they were owed .... obviously thats the 400k "accountimg" mistake. Joe was most definitely robbing them

[@rashawnbrown1650]

@@juangotti2202 it’s all about perspectives...let it play out the real truth will come to light after court eventually

[@kenneth_Berry_]

When Mal said, “nigga I probably had more money in my pocket than you when we met,” I knew what Joe did was a death nail

[@jayrogers9898]

facts he had to let him know what time it was

[@dennisjohnson7139]

Joe been broke and acting like he wasn't. That's why he was on TV. Mal was right there at the 20 people in the club to see Joe perform

[@cocoslaughter8126]

@@jayrogers9898 exactly cause Joe had hit rock bottom at one point.

[@hegeliandianetik2009]

Ya'll basing your opinion off what a man said in an emotional state. Lol

[@miguelangelthomas5154]

Yeah. I no longer want to watch an aging narcisist treat his friends with no respect. I was okay when he was just a raging narcisist but then when he went and fired Rory on air like that and then said he would sue their pants off if they made a podcast...now them funny hats aint funny anymore. just lame.

[@DeathsInverse]

Facts!

[@kadeemfields4226]

Welp no one cares

[@cbenji07]

So it was ok watching it before? I guess you can always search for z younger disrespectful narcissist.

[@yourfavoritecousing8096]

Facts

[@yourfavoritecousing8096]

@@kadeemfields4226 them views and dislikes beg to differ

[@tb718w]

This was the most articulate breakdown of the situation and break down posted this far.

[@ajdavis9836]

)0

[@theherbnnerd2824]

*thus

[@marigo_]

For real

[@gameguy_]

trap lore ross??

[@Trippy.Redwine]

Breakdown x 2

[@jalenbryant4957]

This is the most honest convo I’ve seen on this topic yet. They understand Joe but acknowledge how ultimately he fumbled the ball concerning communication and cultivating a positive work environment

[@GmkSuperstars]

Agreeded when it comes down to it this could and should have been avoided

[@yamon598]

Can't help but notice that , ironically enough, Van lowkey looks like Kanyes West from this angle lol

[@millardfilmore1403]

Nah that’s facts

[@oelscott2460]

Whats Ironic about that?

[@yamon598]

@@oelscott2460 just a remembrance of there interaction at TMZ office and that was a big deal at the time...never noticed before. Hence, irony🤷🏾‍♂️

[@XceedDriver]

I was thinking the same shit about him looking like Kanye.

[@RVX1989]

😂😂

[@notmiketate]

2 things. 1.) Joe was ALWAYS preaching about paying the creator, doing right by your people, being transparent. And literally was the biggest hypocrite ever with this situation. 2.) they never really quote Joe, but he legit said "I dont owe you guys any respect. I dont owe my friends respect" and also said the business side of the pod was none of their business which he apologized for, but his actions show how he really felt. He felt they were replaceable and those are his FRIENDS. I was a listener for years, went to the live show. But when you show us over and over and over again the type of person you are why listen. Dudes ego and narcissism is too much and his disrespect for his actual real life friends makes it so i cant support a person like that. Hopefully he learns from this but if you look at his track record, hes the problem in every business situaiton his whole career. But always places blame on something else. Do better

[@z7513]

@S C y’all gotta stop trying to discredit what mal and rory did. They worked for free at the beginning to build the pod cast to what it was, so how could u say he didn’t own them any spodify money. That goes against everything joe screamed about. “Pay the creators” You drinking all the akademiks coolaid.

[@JeoJetsonmusic]

@S C what are you talking about? It was absolutely a group effort. How long have you even been a listener? A lot of what you’re saying is completely false because Rory has been there from the beginning and Mal helped take it to another level. If they were profit partners like they claim everything you’re saying is irrelevant based on an agreement they came to amongst themselves.

[@natorreyemory5793]

Amen

[@mrswerveon]

If you continue to pay someone when there is zero money coming in what do you call that?? If I'm working other jobs etc and I'm sousing that money to pay people something that they shouldn't be getting at the time, how should you demand more?? Ya'll got things super twisted. For them to not sit back and say, "wait how is he paying us when we have no deal" speaks volumes of their lack of understanding and not caring really.

[@Melly_Wayy]

@@mrswerveon y’all opinion still the same ?

[@joelittorres]

Joe Budden when about everything the wrong way. Friends should be treated with RESPECT.

[@JeoJetsonmusic]

He really said he doesn’t owe his friends respect. If that’s the case why even call them friends

[@dakidcolombiano]

Them dudes weren’t boys they was brothers! All 4 of them! Blood DONT make you family! From the stories it seemed like Mal was always there for Joe even lived with him, parks as well was always around, but they adopted Rory as their little brother! Rory for dam near a yr was crying on that podcast he was physically & emotional sick going through some things in his personal life. Sometimes on the Pod he would open up about it. What ya needed to do was reach out to that man & talk with him privately. Joe talks all that issh about Therapy well you should have seen ya little brother was struggling & should have reached out to his brother. instead of jumping in a live talkin crazy.. how many times you stand up over Mal talkin about you was gonna fuck him up throughout the last 5 yrs. That situation is jacked up & this coming from a day 1 fan A dude who bought the Joe Budden album at the end of my freshman year in highschool. All the albums to mix tapes to the podcast has saved my life!!! I hope that situation can be fixed can be fixed one day..

[@crowded_spaces]

Joe said they were talking outside of the pod. Rory didn’t wanna open up on mic. Of course he’s depressed he cheated on his fiancé and his side chick start fucking with Ak. Loyal listeners not seeing Joe’s position is weird to me. Loyal listeners seen that Rory and Mal contribution wasn’t as impactful as they’re making it seem. They felt entitled and wanted to feel like owners of something they didn’t own. The worse part is when Joe told Mal he wasn’t an owners his ego wouldn’t let him continue. That’s his own fault.

[@jayc5756]

@@crowded_spaces Bruh, they all know they not owners. They said so already. TF are you talking about??

[@crowded_spaces]

@@jayc5756 there’s a difference between knowing and feeling. They thought because Joe was there friend. They would get ownership. When Joe told Mal that it was the end bc Mal ego couldn’t handle hearing that from Joe. Rory assumed ownership and when the big deal talk started he increased pressure about obtaining ownership. Joe refused and Rory and Mal teamed up against Joe. Same lawyer. Mal felt “disrespected” because he wasn’t treated like an owner and Rory was mad because he wasn’t offered an ownership stake.

[@harryshonowo]

@@crowded_spaces you stupid he wasn’t trynna give em the paper work so they can see if they getting the right amount and he went ballistic trust was gone at that moment then cause Anyone will think he doing something, he an asshole and a hypocrite

[@jacobbroussard8625]

@@crowded_spaces wait what?!?!? Rory cheated on his fiancé???

[@PeterParkedHer]

I fuck with Adams honesty in this topic because he sounds like he was a fan of the show.

[@johniswinning]

Joe budden podcast is dead bro joe killed it and thats that. My guys just wanted to know their worth and joe gave them the middle finger. Because joe heard jay say "so what".

[@icebergdl757]

Joe having nightmares still hearing that So what…..

[@ruffmenace95gaming]

That's exactly why he keeps bringing it up. His feelings were hurt, they laughed and he held a grudge because he felt disrespected by his hero, and his bros. It wasn't a big deal in reality, but he took it to heart.

[@ms.ashley999]

The strange thing about them being "fired" is that in Rory and Mal's (The Job Hunt) video, Rory asked "How do you get fired AFTER you quit?" And Mal's response was "Now you know how it feels." Seems like Joe didn't actually fire them for real. His firing rant was a show. So rewatching Joe "fire" the other side of a couch and a high chair honestly looks scary.

[@crystobarz]

the pod now feels like watching the person drop his partner cuz he thinks he can do better but only looks lonely now amongst the new relationship scene.and we have to witness the others move on

[@bongekasenatle2816]

Tru

[@godsdaughter9024]

Van should join Mal & Rory on their podcast...that would be great

[@selinadeloach6680]

Interesting 🤔

[@grogu411]

Hell nah he’s annoying. He’s just that annoying gossiping tmz guy and that’s all he will ever be. TMZ stained his image.

[@allgasnobrakes919]

No it won’t

[@pocketlinttreasures33]

Fuck no. I can't stand the guy. I'm sick of how he preaches "as black men, as black brothers" etc... especially while references the JBP which was not an all black cast or crew... 2 of the main ppl were white. Not everything has to be a out ur race and Van makes everything about race. I'm not looking for a deep discussion on race or inequality... there is a space for that but that's not why I'm looking to the Rory n Mal podcast. Also, Van's ego is big for no reason and the combo of big ego and boring personality (he's dry af) is not gonna add fuxk all the the R&M pod.

[@vurbzfenomeno]

Nah he’s too woke.

[@th1s1guysays1]

The JBP had soooooo much potential, it probably could have been if not AS big as the Joe Rogan Experience. Joe became industry and went against everything he preached about on his own friends.

[@KO-OG-Passport-Bro-1997]

Fuck that...Mal is a fucking busta and Rory a fucking cornball.

[@chrisd8006]

Yes...this is why I can't rock with Joe..in the end he kinda became the industry fuckboy he hated most and scum bagged his friends over money... Imagine you tell me I'm your boy and I will be getting 30% of the bag and for YEARS we rocking and building and I been good but when I finally ask you how big was the total bag we been earning off our work you throw me a spreadsheet and tell me it's your bag and to fuck off when I ask for the finer details... I cant fuck with Joe anymore after that

[@tristanbell2302]

ok u tripping on that one bro. that shit never would have close to JRE

[@grinchoi1]

At its best, JBP is not coming remotely close to JRE as far as reach and numbers.

[@KO-OG-Passport-Bro-1997]

@@grinchoi1 So, who gives a fuck? It's still a HUGELY successful podcast!!!!

[@damioncox3371]

Joe flat said that he ain't opening "his" books to nobody. How tf can you have a profit based deal when only one person has access to the numbers??? That's a red flag because if you're doing straight up business there is no reason why you don't want to be transparent with the books. I personally would be overly willing to show the books if I was being straight up so there couldn't be any question to whether or not I'm keeping it real. It's like the homie that goes out of his way to assure you he's not lying about something. He's gonna swear to God on everything they love and every dead family member they have and on his kids and the PB&J sandwich in his lunchbox too 😂😂to the point you're like "ok homie, I believe you"

[@mlenzi5476]

The part where Van said Joe told Mal and them his contract forbids it was wild to me.

[@kalebburk8768]

I think the joe budden podcast will never be the same without Rory and mal. I’m watching their podcast way before his

[@Mufaro100]

Its better without them.. Especially Mal.. He was so unrelatable.. Always on His Phone etc.. Ice & Ish bring relatability.. they are fathers.. they are in relationships etc.. If anything Rory brought more to the table than Mal

[@DaOtisElevator]

Shit better.

[@chuckplaysgames7925]

@@Mufaro100 all lies

[@abcamacho6187]

@@chuckplaysgames7925 you heard rory and mals pod??? It's bland af lol needs seasoning

[@alpizzle2963]

Don't even listen to Joe Budden podcast anymore and I started at episode 10 but can't respect how Joe handled the situation so I can't take him serious anymore so no disrespect but can't listen to anybody I can't respect

[@martinrosario4018]

Shit I stopped listening after the Spotify mess I knew shit wouldn’t be right going forward when that happened and here we are lol

[@KingKalidor]

@@martinrosario4018 why do you care about the Spotify deal I'm just wondering because that seems like one of the few things that shouldn't affect the fans unless you were just looking for a reason to not watch the podcast anymore which seems even more redundant

[@martinrosario4018]

@@KingKalidor it wasn’t the Spotify deal it was the way it went it down lol joe complaining about getting screwed over and using oppression as an excuse instead of taking accountability was the last straw for me but it was a slew of things happening in the podcast that were red flags to me leading up to that Spotify debacle

[@braveheartedlion]

Yeah….Van don’t know what he is talking about here. He got talking points mixed, is what I mean. Rory and Mal were entitled to accounting…it was in their contracts. They were supposed to receive it quarterly as apart of their partnership sharing agreement, which is pretty standard. Joe acknowledged this. The issue was that they never received papers after 2019 and even then it had an error. But even without the error, it was insufficient as it wasn’t a full record of cash flows from the business, but, rather a 5 line item excel spreadsheet. An excel spreadsheet with 4 line items is not books. When they asked for copies after Rory found the $400k mistake, it was always an issue, with Joe getting upset. So their contract until a few months ago, was never fully honored. What Joe you was referring to in respect to not being able to show them paperwork on, was the Spotify deal specifically. He said he wasn’t supposed to discuss the terms of the contract with Spotify which creates a difficult situation when you are in a partnership agreement where you are also contractually obligated to provide your business partners with accounting details on everything - outflows and inflows -, that pertain to the pod. Van sipping that Joe narrative.

[@bringinthedope5929]

Dang. Where did you get the 409k mistake information. And what did you mean by mistake?

[@DuBGArtlessWIG]

@@bringinthedope5929 Rory and Mal spoke about 400k mistake

[@ToDaMaxxx]

Rory And Mal released their first episode 4 days ago and got 522k views (prolly more now). I watched a JB pod from 2 weeks ago and Joe only had 250k views. Rory and Mal is gonna smoke it

[@mrswerveon]

Another person that only look at KZbin numbers. Sad that you think that's the only thing that counts smh. You must be young. You have KZbin stars then there is podcasting which basically is about audio more than KZbin. You can come out the gate smoking because people just want to see what it's about. Now can you keep those people coming back is something else. Like Van said, let's wait some time and see what happens. Can they keep people coming back by themselves or do they need celebs to make their content.

[@arthurmorgansMom]

Max Moore..I get what you’re saying..Rory and Mal podcasts 1-4 are, at least, over 400k..while joe budden tv is less than 200k..it’s been over 4 weeks. People are here for Rory and Mal’s podcast.

[@CandaceMelissa]

Man FOH!, both Rory and Mal both said they aren’t podcasters, they made fun of Joe on Everyday Struggle, they made fun of Joe doing Pull Ups, they made fun of Joe doing State of the Culture, they were low key hating the entire time Joe started to expand. Those two formed an alliance and that’s when they started pocket watching Joe and started making moves. Those two been knew they were going to leave - they were just waiting for the right time to do it and when they found out about the Olivia Dope situation they found their break.

[@raylax7056]

you are an idiot, Joe told Rory to leave for a month not the other way around

[@CandaceMelissa]

@@raylax7056 then why did Mal not show up?

[@folkscrazyouthere3076]

Thank you!!!!!!

[@lucratyveMedia]

It’s funny how Mal and Rory, now Give AF about podcasting lol 😂

[@Derrickneal1352]

facts...I remember Rory would ALWAYS say he hated podcasting

[@jungp5749]

Mal already had a podcast in 2012

[@atlemartoresonfjeldstad4557]

@@jungp5749 He stated that he doesn`t give a f about podcasting several times tho

[@jungp5749]

joe said the same thing many times lol..its not that serious

[@theearthisphlat]

@@atlemartoresonfjeldstad4557 he also has been a podcaster for how many years now? Im sure even Musicians hate making music every now and then but that doesn’t mean theyre gonna switch what theyre good at

[@SS-ux6cg]

Sounds like Adam and the co host were having a subliminal conversation.

[@semyaza555]

I guess Adam didn’t learn his lesson when Ak wyled out on him for HOURS lol.

[@heath1735]

Everyday struggle put me on the JBP... I started with liking AK and at this point can't stand him and went with Joe.. But at this point too many ugly sides of Joe has poked its head out.. After a good almost 4 years I was religiously watching the JBP but just can't anymore.. I'm team Rory and Mal🙌🏽

[@dominiquepopinski4675]

Facts an joe dont know politics nor will he ever admit he ever wrong

[@spinelli187]

Joe has more fame now then his music career ever got him. Which made his ego explode and take over….Rory and Mal didn’t deserve to be treated like that.

[@GroovydawgJ]

100% joe is a narcissist who put fame and power over his friends and tried to shame them publicly. he completely ruined that relationship and hes done it before

[@saturnteatree]

Same dynamic lol came for AK, moved to joe and I’m with rory and mal I just like their energy the most

[@Countmacula666]

The JBP still fire 🔥 and I’m watching Rory and Mal pod as well, cause I ain’t taking sh*t personal over business affairs I truly know nothing about 🤷🏿

[@yoplay1433]

No Divide. ...We gone watch, support , and complain about both.

[@brainsandbeauty2832]

Nope, I'm a day one listener but I'm boycotting joe. He was wrong and did them dirty

[@dayvercetti4156]

Nah I ain’t fuckin with Joe

[@dlkc2000]

@@dayvercetti4156 40 likes vs you 2? Joe is still getting many listeners around the world

[@Remy4722]

@@dlkc2000 so what you not joe you don’t gotta defend him

[@raylax7056]

@@brainsandbeauty2832 yup not fukin with Joe, let him fail

[@davidammonds2011]

Joe lying and he played the biggest part in ruining the JBP. It’s not the same . Not because Ice and Ish are not good . Fans realized Joe’s not authentic as we thought he was. Oh well . They had a good run.

[@onehitterquitter2130]

The hardest thing to see was. Joe's nacarassism in full HD. We all knew it was there but not to that point.

[@blackspider1405]

I can't speak for many, but I haven't really listened to Joe since Rory and Mal left.

[@coughdrop435]

That last part when he was talking about people shooting at joe and disrupting his family was directed at Charlamagay. He been talking shots at Joe for years

[@nicciwith2cees]

CHARLAMAGAY😂😂😂😂 That was a classic drop 😂😂😂😂

[@superbia5150]

We're crazy to think JBP will ever die but, its too early to say if Rory and Mal will take over that lane. I think they've let it be known they don't want to just focus on a podcast and they have a ton of other media to showcase. So far they have 200k+ views in 1 day on the first episode Joes recent episode is at about 130k+ views in 3 days. So I guess we will see.

[@Kitco360]

When you move to the next level it’s said to say but you gotta bring lawyers and contracts into the fold! It’s only right!

[@juschill1]

3:00 Van explained it beautifully

[@Poopinpooop]

Van is so cool and so corny at the same time 😂

[@YungPresty]

Ain’t ever thought about it like that but it’s so true

[@Brandonforever21608]

Soooo true lol

[@Melissathelocator]

Yes, it’s the best combo!

[@gysweetnesss]

I think the pod is better with Ice and Ish cause they are not afraid to tell Joe when he is going overboard.

[@morganadams4526]

Joe's Pod would never have the same chemistry without Roars and MAL.

[@TeamEchelonRecords]

What's hilarious is Joe saying he was contractually bound to not share that info on the actual accounting is the same as Spotify withholding the actual metrics and the actual draw the podcast was to them....hypocrisy at its finest... Great run tho👏🏽

[@duntrog54]

Adam’s a 🤡,,,he sat right there wit joe and showed none of this energy

[@cuyadawson5440]

Not surprised, friends with Vlad

[@aviana009]

Well the interview was before the firing, so there’s that.

[@bendover5768]

@@aviana009 exactly.

[@jahjohnson31]

Look at the timeline of events before you spout head canon

[@fai591]

Joe got the podcast idea from Mal. Mal had his own pod like 3yrs before Joe. It's also pretty fucking dope.

[@humblebragger500]

@@BigOleMoolah do ur research buddy

[@folkscrazyouthere3076]

@@humblebragger500 so cause Mal says it it's completely true lol

[@michealbrown4409]

🧢

[@donneysimpson8536]

I'm glad we have Zay97 channel and Loaded Clips channel. They have all the Joe Budden Pod funny moments compiled together. I watch them over and over.

[@treydeuce8479]

Rory and mals podcast already has more views than joes .. Joes views have gone down substantially since they left and he doesnt even post the full shows on youtube anymore lol. They completely changed Joes business model.

[@96zj52]

I unsubscribed from joe you can’t do your friends like that. I lost all respect.

[@jgp7414]

You're a fool if you think people are friends just because they do a podcast or two every week..

[@MikelWash]

this is the most sober conversation about this i have seen

[@ErrythingPhroze]

I’ll watch they podcast here and there, but definitely not checking for it like how I did when they were all together

[@jermaineparker1959]

You guys are delusional if you believe Joe is done or that rory and Mal can carry a podcast. The show is still rolling and it is really good content. I enjoy it better.especially compared to the last few months.

[@kyaraburley09]

I agree

[@devon12363]

Vans chair swayed back & forth the whole vid

[@bigmikestein]

Annoying AF, sit still weirdo .

[@chinative7517]

Don't forget the listeners that don't take sides, that will listen to both.

[@producekb6886]

6:07 why tf you didn’t say that to his face

[@sycofya1677]

Fr

[@SteezLikeButta]

Bc Joe fired them like a day or so after he did the interview w Adam

[@TrvisXXIII]

I’m sorry I didn’t find this 5 days ago

[@waynewalters4987]

Van pretty much nailed it, I don’t care what anyone says the pod ain’t what it is.

[@dridley318]

Good.. change can be good

[@bossblck6399]

It’s actually better since Rory and Mal left. No more every rapper and baskets player is Mal’s “man” 😂😂😂

[@thatdudebarry]

Adam questions be so long he Damn near ask a question, then adds context with a story about himself. But I guess it’s cool bc it shows he genuinely looks to learn from his guests. He asked van a 80 seconds question and got a 8 minute answer so that’s good stuff

[@kezallison4771]

It prevents any further miscommunication as to what he’s asking. I think it’s effective journalism.

[@selinadeloach6680]

Still can’t watch Hotel Rwanda. It’s too much😢

[@pongunz1997]

Joe budden just handled shit wrong I dont think he was wrong in some if his points but he handled the shit terribly that's what made mal and rory leave and feel a way if he had handled it like a friend and in a calmer respectful way shit would of been good

[@manumari1852]

He’s crazy bro can’t control himself

[@jaynellioriginal5160]

Facts

[@pongunz1997]

@@manumari1852 that's a fact the way he talks to ppl is just wrong untill he fixes that he will continue to loose good ppl around him

[@Tiras504]

Joe and Mal had been friends for years. Rory got in between those brothers and caused division ,and confusion. Sounds familiar. I just can't believe Mal fell for it. Mal should have watched Cadillac Records.

[@bigmikestein]

Lol that’s not what happened at all .

[@SpaceBetweenEnt]

Adam is 100% right about the drop in podcast. Rory and Mal's will start strong but I believe strongly it'll fall much, much harder than they think.

[@vince2433]

Van got good vibes and really speaks positivity

[@jorgecebrian1475]

I wish my mom would have rocked me in a chair as a newborn more than Van did here 🥴

[@darkcocoakiss]

😂😂😂

[@Advisorblogger]

The last part from van is what made me take a break from the jbp. That solo rant where he fired them publicly and was dam near calling them untrustworthy at the same time saying i love you my friends... it felt like he wasnt careful with what he was saying about them, he didnt handle them like friends. They handled him like a friend, him nah. I knee i needed a break

[@trazenitram312]

This is why No Jumper will exceed and evolve

[@constructivecriticism1011]

love all three members of Joe Podcast, that's the Podcast that got me into watching Podcast! I hate that Joes Ego got in the way of mending things that seemed like should've been a pretty easy fix, that's what sucks.

[@HurricaneGamesLife]

Was it all his ego tho?

[@constructivecriticism1011]

@@HurricaneGamesLife I would say 90 percent of the problem was Joe just not wanting to talk about shit and communicate with them because he felt like he made them who they are, and who are they to question anything if he made them famous. I just say that from a day Oner perspective, and from what Kevin Hart said, Joes convo with him that he spoke on, sounds about right to me. but I wasn't there. just my perception.

[@skyleralvarez887]

I loved the JBP....I still like it, but they spend way too much time talking about shit nobody gives a fuck about. I'm tired about contract talks, list talks, or how old somebody is talks. Stick to the funnies. Stop tryna have a serious podcast. It isn't that. That was never why people listened. People listen because Joe is funny, and the dynamic of Rory and Mal bouncing off eachother only added to it. Also for the music review deep dives...which...are usually FUNNY. Ice and Ish are not funny. they contribute almost nothing. Their contribution is Joe clowning on them. Joe has no one that will clown on HIM anymore. There's no balance anymore. I can only ever listen to the first hour before it gets fucking boring now. Joe and Ish argue with eachother like they both smoked weed for the first time. No one tryna hear this fake insightful bullshit for 2 hours lol

[@jayyc8844]

Lol you just summed up one episode it’s not even like that start watching it more

[@JeoJetsonmusic]

@Snoop Kelly it seems like the only people that can listen to the pod now are these young internet kids with no morals or principles who follow trends. I could never listen to joe again based on how he spoke to Mal that should never leave his lips or come in his mind

[@louisloother301]

Rory & Mal were employees 💯💯💯💯 They thought they were partners which is an absolute joke. They overvalued themselves once the word SPOTIFY get brought up 💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯

[@kickinnflickin1646]

they stated they weren't employee's...they were percentage partners and that's a difference.

[@banksy6462]

Episode 1 of Rory n Mal tells us this won't work

[@abcamacho6187]

💯

[@FROdaRIPPA]

I like his stance. It’s a lot of opinions from people who have seen no numbers or contracts of any sort

[@cws2867]

He’s exact.. the new JBP is missing chemistry of the what made it special.

[@killwill2099]

Lol maybe for the younger audience......ice and ish the reason i became a loyal fan of jbp

[@chimaubabuike9774]

You’re buggin

[@money0925]

Their chemistry is fine. The dynamic went from listening to homies to listening to your uncles.

[@dwhite8997]

I want the best for Mal and Rory. Idk how well their pod will do, but I loved the episode with Earl Sweatshirt!

[@jasons.8125]

beautiful insight, Van.

[@Tristan-vg5ed]

Egos on all sides killed their relationship. I 'm still a loyal listener. The dynamic with rory and mal had been deteriorating for a while and the pod suffered for it. I'm happy for great content and Joe with Ice and ish is good content, dynamic has never been better. Hope Rory and Mal have the same on their pod 🙏🏾

[@chuckplaysgames7925]

Lmao that new shit is garbage . Joe fans kill me lol ice and ish are cornballs

[@Tristan-vg5ed]

@@chuckplaysgames7925 nah just you

[@lareston7]

Yow rory always was on his period and mal got the brain of a 2 yr old, so if these niggas think them niggas all the way right in their minds they bugging, joe never promised these niggas nothing rory and mal was always clueless about the business and joe always said he is building his brand not our brand, his brand.

[@z7513]

Yea it was a great era and now it’s over. Hope all the brothers have prosperity in their futures.

[@Tristan-vg5ed]

@@z7513 exactly, wish em all the best 💯💯

[@VidoGotBeats815]

Shout out tp Mal and Rory

[@TheRealGGGio]

The Joe Budden Podcast will never proceed or be as good as it was before without Rory and Mal. Rory and Mal on their own have the potential to be greater than they were when they were with Joe Budden.

[@abcamacho6187]

The pod they dropped was bland af

[@TheRealGGGio]

@@abcamacho6187 maybe so but I stand by my statement

[@agmcroom2374]

Tk Kirkland: I told Adam he needs to go the glad format and it looks like it’s working. Who raised you!

[@larryhill1603]

Joe is not your Homie van😂😂

[@Coolcat3]

Well Rory is gunna have to take the lead. Mal literally says nothing. Gives nothing up.

[@dreamqueen317]

Mal had a podcast in 2012 called the Mal Show. He can lead just as good as anyone. Google it.

[@dreamqueen317]

@FullyFocused 11 😆

[@DaOtisElevator]

Mal was useless to the show

[@abcamacho6187]

Yall heard Episode 1 they dropped ???🤣🤣🤣🤣 bland af

[@dreamqueen317]

@@abcamacho6187 as an avid fan, you’re not wrong. But they have time to pull it together.

[@intellectno3]

9:27 shots fired at CTG

[@DJKuroh]

The JBP did this all the time too. Call Me Daddy, Rogan, Brilliant Idiots, etc. Endless speculation about their deals. It's not just CtG and the JBP. Too many people pocket watch out here in a negative way instead of just going "congrats on your success".

[@soundpuppy1212]

The fact the every other podcast keeps talking about Joe..just proves his narrative that he is a content king.

[@sidebar3970]

Sidebar: The chair rocking killing me Van

[@boom280]

Main thing I got from this is van can’t keep still!

[@LGseeker]

Joe confuses his delusional demeanor with genius.

[@BUD-TV]

Adam got his views up now he dropping knowledge. I love these youtube streets

[@mlobimkhize5444]

Adam was foreseeing his whole situation with AD right here. It all came tumbling down.

[@_r.i.t.z._81]

My favorite thing about this is watching people respond like they were apart of it and know exactly what happened lol. Reality is both sides prolly made some mistakes and egos are real which hurt the relationship. I mess wit all 3 and look forward to the next step for em

[@s.shephard8547]

Van Lathan is on such a high horse thinking he’s so much better than ppl, imagine having to hang out with this guy for longer than a minute

[@craigmitchell2896]

Word is Rory and Mal gonna be working with Kevin Durant on a podcast!!

[@jrake80]

Tell me this is real please

[@InterstateStunna]

@@jrake80 yeah under KD network

[@DecaturQue]

Van broke it down exactly the way i broke it down. Plus on top of that, they really thought they deserved ownership and to take part of decision making and that’s fair for them to want that and also fair for Joe to say no.

[@JeoJetsonmusic]

Maybe I didn’t see it but I never saw that they wanted ownership or decision making only that they were supposed to get paid based on a percentage and that was agreed-upon way before it got to the size that it is now

[@DecaturQue]

@@JeoJetsonmusic yeah. Both of their conversations acknowledged Rory asked for ownership and was told no. As far as Mal, he wanted control, which comes with ownership, and was offended when Joe told him the business of the network isn’t his. He’s an employee who gets paid based based on a profit share. He felt that was disrespectful, which i understand, but based on the undertones of they statements, they felt some kind of way about not having ownership or control. Which i totally understand. I wouldn’t put my 100% faith in Joe as a businessman either. And I’m a long long time fan.

[@binta31]

Anyone worried? No need. JBP listeners are good on the JBP side. There are no mistakes in life. Ish and Ice are great!

[@larelljohnson8047]

We found Joe Budden burner account ☝🏾

[@binta31]

@@larelljohnson8047 😂......not. Just someone who’s listened since day 1 and understand nuance

[@aLLeY_hOOpZ]

This is the best assessment of this situation, I really like the logic and thought put into Van’s response

[@DJKuroh]

See I used to be an avid JBP fan but even this whole clip... Van would never be able to get this off on the JBP. Clowned. Interrupted. Downplayed. A lot of current and previous JBP fans really hate on Adam but he is not fucking up the conversational flow like Joe and that should be commended.

[@delockjones9314]

Wait till it happens with the new cohosts lol

[@jeniciaw]

People really hear what they wanna hear. Yes Joe said that he doesn't owe his friends respect. He also stated that he gives his respect freely but he doesn't owe anyone anything. Why is that hard to understand?

[@ScriptureClips]

I came to like rory and Mal more after the breakup than before.

[@vanderumd11]

Look at how good they are doing now.

[@plentywater773]

so what happens when Rory and Mal go separate ways ... there will be Accounting problem again with KD, RORY AND MAL , i fore see that.

[@zoe_zucci]

The JBP is actually more enjoyable without Mal and Rory.

[@DamuBaby6]

Being honest the new pod actually sounds great ice and ishh bring a new view point n they really challenge joe where the last few with the original pod was getting passive aggressive, too many jabs at each other,Rory n Mal will be missed but too much of the show was contingent upon joe exploding, n low key playing the villain

[@mandeanraje2300]

Definitely the trust in the message is completely broken. I'm off it.