Joe Budden Reacts to Kendrick Lamar's "meet the grahams" | "They're Believable Lies on This Track"

[@samuraiprime5044]

Am I the only one who actually likes "Meet the Grahams" for what it is? A horror-movie like track that paints a picture of him talking to Drake's family including him? The beat is mesmerizing.

[@WillieDane]

I appreciate it for that EXACT reason. It literally crashed the party & made everyone sit down & listen. It was unsettling 😂

[@TameriKingdom79]

He’s the Boogie Man lol

[@christopherwilson6045]

The Alchemist Blessed Kendrick But It Was An Old Beat Kendrick Had In The Stash Until He Felt It Was Time To Use It...

[@mckenleymason1212]

That's why we all love this song

[@HoneyBee-br6hi]

I love it.

[@AdeleKakwandi]

The daughter stuff on MTG was the least disrespectful stuff. I couldn't care less if Drake has 10 daughters. He spent three verse dissecting three generations of Drake's bloodline over an alchemist beat. It's masterpiece to me.

[@austindowney5581]

Exactly

[@aquabuhda432]

Yo ish if your girl lied too u about a baby being yours and u find it its your homies and u punch her in the eye 1 or 2 times are u as the man wrong he didn't kill the girl he moved

[@davidgaskins2589]

​@@aquabuhda432shut up

[@Deo721]

Exactly you haters don't care about the actual song or lyrics. Y'all just hate Drake so much anything KDot did was Good to y'all 😆😆😆 Kendrick's diss songs was weak as hell and stupid for him to use that false information from Drake's mole. He super dumb 🤦🏿‍♂️

[@fredztuhh]

@Deo721 Drake : here's some fake bullets to shoot at me Kendrick : Shoots Drake : *starts bleeding* all my part of my masterplan lmaoo stupid bot

[@mrcrc10]

Kendrick told the man’s mom to sit down, shut up and listen. This was diabolical.

[@jordandavis3867]

😂😂😂😂

[@amenisworld5733]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@WestCoastCheeseHead]

It was so bold too😭

[@itsonlydirt1994]

Drake got words for his uncle don't worry.

[@alabamabornball9957]

It was the clearing of his throat after he told her to sit-down 😂😂😂😂

[@dashuntas.m4045]

People keep disregarding this track like it wasn’t the hardest hitting track on a psychological level. Out of all of them, this is the one that’s going to stay on Drake’s mind for years; he might have to deal with Not Like Us online and in clubs but Meet The Grahams is what he’s going to be thinking of when he’s in bed about to sleep lol

[@soufside_5123]

💯😭

[@gregcoleman9085]

Accurate as fuck

[@mackonealcharles9380]

I totally agree with you. This is the Knock Out punch track. It's so dark, scary and deep. Feels like the Boogeyman coming to get him 😂

[@bongonice]

😂😂😂😂 Real talk

[@BosseLadi12]

Exactly

[@oilyque]

Man talking to someone's family one by one like they are tied up in the house in separate rooms. Psychological warfare.

[@Ava-ze6kz]

That’s what it felt like to me😂

[@Original_jataro]

🎯

[@SuiteVII]

🎯🎯🎯🎯🎯

[@biancalacey8844]

Facts

[@liquidjackson7172]

Bingo!!!!!

[@taylormade9748]

Joe Budden was spot on. Kendrick controlled the mood change. Kendrick was always one step ahead every round. I love Drake and K Dot’s music, but Kendrick had a flawless victory

[@Luckie76]

FLAWLESS

[@roninhubbard9059]

Agree I think if heart pt.6 would've been a top shelf song like not like us - maybe drake could've fought back a lil bit

[@kavoniagilford9777]

I can watch this very episode at least twice a week.

[@Alisha1686]

YES 😂😂😂 because he had my head ALL FUQED UP 😂😂 with meet the Grahams

[@thereelpineapple]

Exactly. I've liked most of Drake's stuff up until Scorpion, and I think it's been mostly trash since then. WIth that said, Kendrick set trap after trap, and Drake kept taking the bait, and the fact that post feud he continues to spiral is just making Kendrick look better by the day.

[@Mamus656]

I think the reason Kendrick was easily believed is because of his character, Drakes character was already in question.

[@chumbanga]

Bingo 🤝

[@joebrown6778]

Also...people just wanted Drake to lose. Let's be real.

[@jadencandelario7880]

@@joebrown6778sounds like an excuse, why make excuses for Drake ? When push ups and Taylor made dropped, he was acting like Kendrick was scared, “it seems he’s not as enthused”.

[@ahziahester8621]

@@jadencandelario7880nah he’s right tho. If you go to a boxing match hoping one particular guy gets KOd you favor the other guy. & that’s so okay! But people at least should be honest enough to admit it. Jerseys are on

[@joebrown6778]

@@jadencandelario7880 Excuse for what? I do understand I'm on the internet so the people love to paint things in absolutes and extremes, but if we can't even be honest about the public mood before the battle even started..🤷‍♂️

[@junior5893]

What Ish is missing is no one thinks Kendrick was living this great life. He already detailed HIMSELF on Mr. Morale the trials and tribulations in his life and relationship. So when Drake attempts to drop bombs on his family life it doesn’t hit the same.

[@pazman77]

Thank you. If anything it makes you empathise with him more. If his infidelity made his wife cheat and now they are estranged but he still supports that second kid. Then we'll, damn, he is a man trying to be better and living with his mistakes.

[@Strawberryfearsforever]

​@@pazman77His kids look exactly like him.

[@pazman77]

​@@Strawberryfearsforever I agree. Just pointing out why Drake's angle was trash anyway.

[@tefthompson4354]

Right... imagine you reading your personal journal to us and then someone trying to use what you shared with us against you as if it's a diss.

[@christopherflowers8615]

This the same ish who got 5 tracks through good kid maad city & said it wasn't good lol . He just don't know what he listening to

[@jaykristian745]

This song is still eerie. Kendrick did not give a single fuck. You can tell this song was less about lyrics for him. He just wanted to rip his entire bloodline apart. This will exist forever. Drake's grandkids will hear this. It's fucked up in the best way. Kendrick ate his ass up

[@Kal-El207]

But it was offensive for Drake to use AI Tupac? I’m all for Kendrick getting the dub. But why the bias?

[@clifton6934]

Big Facts. That's something not realizing this is on his Drake resume forever

[@Sadzy]

Kendrick ate what now? Pause brother… pause

[@ArushiSingh004]

​​@@Kal-El207bro there is the thing though. He used the AI voice of someone who is dead without even taking permission from his teams. Beef was between Kendrick and Drake. There was no need to drag a fallen legend like 2Pac in it

[@Jokenword]

@@Sadzy😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@tru_hart]

Ish is so eager to defend Drake that he doesnt even realize how incoherent his arguments are 🤦🏾‍♀️

[@bassdropsbreakdowns]

Ish been a Drizzy meat rider. He knows KDot won, that’s why he’s so tight about it.. (no diddy)

[@hoodieddespair]

And I was TRYNA hear him out, but he wasn't making sense to me.

[@sidepriest]

Sums up the drake Stan general consensus LOL…

[@uriellevelupriley684]

He's sick 🤕 😂

[@bonnaboo07]

LMAO bro sat there looking salty the whole time. Talking about women defending DV fcked him up. Like huh? I stopped listening to him after that.

[@hithere99100]

Ish acting like most of Drake disses weren't aimed at Whitney is hilarious...Drake said Kendrick was small with little feet and finally got around to saying he is a wife beater. Kendrick put out a EP on how to kill a man in multiple styles of rap.

[@FullMetalKaliber]

Yeah it was weird. Man said “your girl might be homie hoping and having kids after you beat her why ain’t she denying it? I only mess with girls like her she should hit me up.” That doesn’t hit for me

[@seriuslyB]

He dissed Whitney harder than he diss Kendri k

[@atonscott]

Never seen a rapper dissected colonizer showed how he finesse Atlanta rappers 💯 drake should never say he out here like he trying free the slaves

[@yenneferofvengerberg4936]

kendrick made an entire diss based off lies but i guess that doesnt count when you suck so much dik, a wife beater giving parenting advice, cool song

[@christopherhaynes8101]

My ex explained this to me , Drake’s primary audience is women. So his choice of words and insults are more geared to hit with women. Your short, somebody taking your girl , those are insults that hit with women and his base. Kendrick doesn’t necessarily cater to his base because it’s a bit more mixed. Therefore his insults have to be more robust vs Aubrey, who could use more cosmetic disses. Nigga said he hate everything about you in the first song and that you should die in the next . I might not agree but those are insults aimed with a different level of aggression (even when presented artistically)

[@kgdondada]

Meet the grahams was literally psychologically attacking, it shifted the mood directly to mental.

[@BornGiftedMusicGroup]

This beef showed me how many fans of rap are not hiphop heads b/c the lack of appreciation for great writing and art was sad to see. The amount of ppl claiming a beef song wasn’t good if if wasn’t gonna be played in a club or u had to think to understand it 🤣🤣🤣🤦🏾‍♂️

[@stanleycarr2766]

Well....said they looking for melodies

[@Leannbby]

You’re forgetting this is Joe, and Meet the Grahams was inspired by Stan, Joe hates Eminem more than anything lol he started out praising that man for his horror core music and then shit on him for it when he didn’t blow up under Shady

[@Eli-ss9gj]

Facts. Niggas complaining bc this shit isn’t something you would hear in the clubs when diss tracks NEVER was like that until Back to Back.

[@owenleal]

Thats really just a cope. As if people even play the majority of rap beef tracks in the club.

[@ToddButcher-vt9jm]

Good point rap fans are not hip-hop heads

[@Artimao]

This beef showed us how many people in the industry were actually bothered by Drake but didn't say nothing because his empire was too big to take a hit. Pusha made a great effort 5 years ago and now Kendrick finished the job

[@agaagga33akacooksupbeats73]

King kindrick

[@Simone.Templar]

6:56 mark This is absolutely true. When people are jealous and envious, they will leap over every form of logic or reasoning to believe the worse about you.

[@mr.j410]

Go deeper(pause) drakes an employee. Who's his boss? Who's licensing him regardless off who he is?

[@fredztuhh]

​@@mr.j410no diddy

[@SheDuctive100]

“You already know it’s a 20v1” 😂

[@dhynacash4114]

Meet the Grahams had me considering my own performance as a mother 💀

[@KekeSimo9]

😂😂😂 facts

[@GoogleAccount00]

😂😂😂😂

[@barrion2978]

😂😂😂

[@luciousbattlecat2618]

😂😂😂😂

[@RebelZoe1804]

😭😭😭

[@Kickinthescience]

Kendrick showed he could be funny and dark in this beef

[@deshundillard1337]

this the worst song in the battle im sorry as a kdot fan

[@seeymuurx999]

@@deshundillard1337you a lie

[@deshundillard1337]

@@seeymuurx999 ... Serious as a heart attack

[@Alliwantismoney15]

@@deshundillard1337im a Drake fan u buggin

[@deshundillard1337]

@@Alliwantismoney15 .. how? ppl gassing.. the angles he took on here was bad.. no bars

[@Dontizzle24]

Kendrick gave us a: trap sound (Euphoria), Horror (Meet the Grahams), bar heavy song/ smooth song (6:16), and a party/club song (Not Like Us). Whether if you think he won or not, you really have to give him credit for beating the narratives surrounding his name in terms of artistry. Because a lot of people believed he was just a “conscious rapper”.

[@dashuntas.m4045]

Those “narratives” weren’t even believable lol, no one that listens to Kendrick’s music would put him in that box, especially after DAMN

[@Dontizzle24]

@@dashuntas.m4045 that’s not the point. The point is that it shows how great he is for exceeding those narratives.

[@mruchiha0209]

How do you feel about people saying he used tweets to write a song?

[@Sotherys662]

@@Dontizzle24who cares about what other people believe brother. TPAB is the most complex album that was ever made in any genre.

[@BdalingoFitnEnt]

I think after DAMN Kendrick proved how versatile he is. But you right. Each diss track had a different feel to it. And they all worked.

[@damarisalaman]

Ish really out here fighting for his life/argument hog tied & blind folded in a boat without a paddle about to hit a waterfall. I ain’t EVER seen a grown man go THIS HARD for another grown ass man in all my years😭😭😭

[@BluEx22329]

Wow😂

[@MsQ9677]

💯💯

[@LebronTraveled24]

Situations like this battle has a tendency of exposing people’s true nature. Look at how many were stans for R.Kelly even though it was proven he was touching the kids. Any predator in my book is dead to me

[@CalmDee]

ISH was so tight through the whole beef... I started tuning in just to see if his face was ever gonna move again.

[@damarisalaman]

@@BluEx22329 it’s facts though lol

[@edwarlock8244]

Kendrick taught Drake the true definition of SCARY HOURS with this one 😂

[@vibewithmaf7476]

😂 Genius comment

[@Greggdavidson94]

Kendrick did warn him and told him it’s something he shouldn’t do, Drake thought he was bluffing 😂

[@MsNimGirl]

Exactly, I don't know how they misunderstood Euphoria and 6:16 in LA. He was warned and still push the line.

[@Tmiscia]

It’s just diabolically genius how stupid u gta be to piss off someone who knows ur secrets and kurupt said it himself kendrick a nice guy what did drake do to piss him off 😂

[@Greggdavidson94]

@@Tmiscia 😭😭

[@delsmontgomery]

people that talk about the replay value of this song, are so stupid. This was a DIRECT letter to Drake. It was not for EVERYONE to bop to, dance to, or dissect on. It was a psychogically-crafted, twisted, haunting way to address Drake, which is what makes it so powerful out of the whole discography of this beef

[@straightouttazambia2835]

Man that beat by Alchemist is witchcraft. It paints an imagery by itself of a serial killer walking into a family's home and then going room by room as he slaughters everyone in the house one by one, room by room.

[@atonscott]

Yo for real this nigga was Jason Michael and Kruger on this beat 😂

[@soonerlilsis]

That is exactly correct

[@julieah1000]

So well articulated!

[@JasonMrquinn]

Word! And what was also genius was that instead of slaughtering the family, Kendrick sat everyone down and told them a hard truth.

[@Strawberryfearsforever]

Omg this is what I saw!

[@kynshii]

He dropped a psychological horror rap. I can Jordan Peele using this in one of his moves

[@fernsone]

Mannn.. can Jordan Peele direct the visuals for this joint!!! That would be mind blowing

[@tiffanybarefield1227]

​@fernsone omg that would be amazing!

[@fernsone]

@@tiffanybarefield1227 😱😱😱

[@JamesSmith-pc7vy]

This was some Silent Hill shit.

[@sidepriest]

Kenny Krueger type sht 😮‍💨

[@thisismyinferno]

Did this dude just ask, where is Kendrick going into depth? What?! This IS the depth. All of Meet The Grahams. He warned Drake in Euphoria and 6:16 in LA.

[@Butter-p9l]

They dude is pouting like Drake is a family member .

[@christopherhaynes8101]

Took em to the depths of hell😂

[@tikiasmith3709]

Ish was on one. He doesn't feel Drake should be accountable for even bringing family in the beef from the beginning. He's mad because Dot took it hell when Drake could only hit the ground lol.

[@tyrunthetyrant]

“This a long life battle with yourself” the chuckle when he says “long” and then the anger in “battle with yourself” is just horrifying. Even the ad libs “ You lied” give that feeling of Kendrick cornering Drake in his own mind. That track is just HORRIFYING.

[@tm_35]

Bro that lil chuckle messed me up too, like I really didn't want to do this, believe it or not I'm tryn help u but this the only way I know how

[@asisiphoclay1568]

Bruuuuuh 😭😭😭

[@eskim095]

I feel like it really made it personal. I understand the composition aspect where this was made to sound a way but Kendrick MEANS this whole song. You can feel the venom and distaste

[@quintinx.3630]

A fundamental fact about all this is we know absolutely nothing about Aubrey. Kendrick has had so many people vouching for him and validating his character his whole career. People are defending Aubrey playing a character we know as Drake while Kendrick has spilled his heart in every album he gave us, to the point he subconsciously feels like family so even if you like Drake more you end up relieved Kendrick won.

[@ferrousallotrope]

Solid point

[@GoodLifeBreeze]

Great analysis. Great!

[@Ashley__Rose]

This. Aubrey’s character as Drake is just as fake as he was on the Disney channel.

[@kbrown3787]

what are you talking about, 14 yo Millie Bobbie Brown and 17yo Billie Eilish said he was like the nicest dude ever.

[@quintinx.3630]

@@kbrown3787 😂

[@DBlaze99]

The way Ish is personally offended at any Drake criticism is weirdo behavior

[@everettewingfield5123]

Once a Lame, Always a Lame

[@Janszimmer1997]

Lightskins gonna defend each other to the death

[@ran_witit895]

He a fan lol

[@iloverette]

A lot of these guys that resemble Drake in skin tone live vicariously through him. When he's up, they feel like they're up too. If he's considered the GOAT, they feel like they're the coolest too.

[@nerakar6562]

It’s weird how you guys have no issue with 99% of every single influencer and media outlet hardcore meat riding Kenny but you point out the 3 guys that were biased towards Drake. It’s like the Fox News situation where everyone knows 99% of the media is left-wing biased but you’ll never stop hearing complaints about how Fox News is right wing biased and it’s like OK we know but who cares? Why can’t they have one network that is leaning right but it’s cool for every other network and platform and form of media to be left leaning? What’s wrong with DJ Ak, Mal & Ish being biased towards Drake while the thousands and thousands and thousands of the rest of influencers and the entire machine and the mainstream media were absolutely team kind and nobody bats an I at that 🤡🤦🏽‍♂️

[@delberthaman1845]

Dot never said he was a perfect man. That’s what mr morale was about. Ish never heard the album either 🤦🏾‍♂️

[@brandonpenn9887]

They always put their clownish thoughts / words on standup men. They’re too offended for drake lol

[@Gurufromgsm]

Exactly I was thinking the same thing

[@djane1006]

He paint himself as a perfect man during the rap beef!. Yet he is with ig model in dumbo while his fiance and kids stay in LA

[@delberthaman1845]

@@djane1006 What does any of that have anything to do with what I said? So you are telling me that you yourself has never had any relationship problems? That’s something people have to deal with as an adult. That’s why nobody cared when Drake kept saying that. Everyone has has arguments, Everyone has had problems. Some people it gets physical. It’s a common thing. Is it right no, But it’s common. Drake would know that if he himself had ever been in real relationships. 🤷🏾‍♂️🤦🏾‍♂️

[@everyonesopinionisdumb]

Oh u super team drizzy 😂😂 ​@@djane1006

[@xHopshotx]

That beat was made in a way where it gives you a sinking feeling and there's nothing you can do about it like you're in quicksand.

[@dz-hz5kg]

That piano 🎹

[@lethaljones3814]

Great description

[@yungadizzle]

Perfect comparison

[@taylorfenton3960]

Like watching someone get in trouble and there’s nothing you do to help them.

[@soonerlilsis]

Exactly 💯

[@Artimusk]

Finally someone talking about the genius of the timing of the drops and the ability to change the mood of the battle. Any celebrations that were had from Family matters were IMMEDIATELY CUT. Amazing.

[@DominicHolder-nn3um]

Kendrick outclassed him in public perception, narrative, reputation, timing, mood changes, his range of song genre. Kendrick has been jealous/side eyeing Drake since the Heart Part 2/Buried Alive/Poetic Justice. He recognizes Drakes talent but has always questioned his character & integrity. No matter how big/accomplished Drake is, he will always feel some type of insecurity in being accepted/loved.

[@NineEight_Nine]

Meet the Grahams is that loud "cough" in every zombie movie

[@elends2302]

You talmbout that shit where every nigga that heard it turn around and look at the homie like 👀👀👀👀

[@elainekellogg6345]

What

[@sidepriest]

LMFAO!!!

[@twintyro]

Well said lmao.

[@jermainejackson7641]

😂😂 good one

[@xandermartin2118]

“Can’t Channel youre masculine even when standing next to a woman” 😂😂😂

[@livingincreation]

That's something most men will question about their own self so that was a bomb directly to drakes self esteem 💀😂

[@tellmesomething2412]

​@@livingincreationIDK about that one. Women ask themselves... "Would you rather be caught in the woods with a bear or a man?" Usually, the answer is a bear, because men look at women as if they're meat. 😈 Don't bears think of all human beings as meat? Anyways, your masculinity shouldn't ever be in question, your character as a man is. That's two different things.

[@superproducercbiz]

Meet the grahams is the gonna go down in history as one of the greatest diss records of all time. Brutal, conceptual, personal, DARK, unique and masterful delivered. Everything doesn’t have to be a “BOP”

[@B3nchwarm3r708]

Ish on the verge of tears this whole conversation 😂😂😂

[@glopezisobel7547]

Agreed 😂😂

[@IlovehisTongue]

His boy got cooked😂

[@MsQ9677]

Facts!😂😂😂😊

[@ifritThe8th]

😂😂

[@missmaam711]

He should’ve went to Starbucks fr cause he failed that whole pod

[@AlexBrown-ke8iq]

Respect to Joe for acknowledging that alchemist is one of them ones frfr

[@Kritacul]

I love how SOOOOOOOO many Drake defenders is like "He's lying." The information Kendrick had was creditable enough to put it out there. Drake is saying that his camp put it out there. Which is worse, meaning his camp got a mole in it along with a sex offender. But Drake does have the history of covering THIS type of stuff up. So Kendrick was a genius no matter what for bringing DOUBT up.

[@Butter-p9l]

Look everyone knows he be talking to minors and if it's not true then sue Kendrick for defamation of character but it won't because a lot more things would come out about Drake and his team shenanigans including their primal history.

[@eboniestevenson231]

​@@Butter-p9l EXACTLY!! Drake's got all kinds of cases with maybe babies, SA charges, and everything else. The difference is he pays people off and they cover it up. But the facts and details are out there if people look.

[@jaz6789]

The reason why people believe things about Drake and question allegations about Kendrick is because of character and patterns. Joe is the only one that really knows RAP, Kendrick has height, width and depth.

[@ianmullins4387]

Ish is completely ignoring the fact Drake opened himself up to all of this, mainly because no one with his same level of popularity has ever publicly questioned the weird shit he's done over the years. The reason people are allowing Kendrick's words hold more weight is because Drake has done all of the things he spoke on. It's an uphill battle if you have a real history of questionable behavior.

[@cedrickwilson]

Yup. If you walk around with dignity and respect and treat ppl as such then you're going to get the benefit of the doubt when ppl talking greasy about you. When you walk around arrogant and treating ppl like 💩 then ppl going to believe when negative things are said about you. It ain't rocket science.

[@djane1006]

@@cedrickwilson the people who portray themselves as perfect often times are the ones doing the unthinkable. In time we will see because one thing I know is when we put a certain onerous there the universe have a way to bring it back on us. So Kendrick better be living an almost perfectly clean life. Plotting to end someone’s career is nasty work that always come back around

[@cedrickwilson]

Those ppl you're referring to always had signs of being trash humans. Bill Cosby for instance, always had whispers about him. If you move like you got some sense then ppl are more likely to respect you. You get what you give.

[@cedrickwilson]

@@djane1006 the ppl who portray to be perfect, yes they are doing the unthinkable. Bill Cosby for instance. 2Pac and Kendrick don't portray to be perfect. You don't have to be perfect to be considered a good human being. If you put here with questionable behavior then sooner or later ppl are going to speak on it.

[@ericabraham3609]

Ish spent this whole pod tryna paint Drake as a victim.

Lightskin stick together

[@gilfordmccormack8140]

And he failed lol 🤣🤣🤣

[@TheNegrodamus89]

Nasty work

[@seriuslyB]

"I'm blamin' you for all his gamblin' addictions Psychopath intuition, the man that like to play victim"

[@SabrinaRobinson-xt2pb]

😂😂😂

[@AFO_AnalyRics]

4:14 Exactly! I agree with Joe here. I got so tired of people trying to fact-check every bar. This is verbal warfare - it's like a debate on steroids. Part of your skill as an MC is your ability to manipulate the audience's perception of your opponent - even with lies. The fact that Kendrick was able to get people looking at Drake so differently from the way they did just minutes after he dropped his biggest blow in 'Family Matters' speaks to just how much of a superior MC Kendrick is. That was crazy.

[@wayneebrilliant]

How can anyone say Family Matters is better than meet the Graham's? When he got to the last part with the "you lied!!" in the background, I was questioning myself and wondering what did I do wrong. 😂

[@Victor-bu8ce]

As a song family matters is better but as a diss? No way it’s even close tbh. Drake said you don’t have a happy family Kendrick then Kendrick said oh yeah? Your whole family gonna know who you are.

[@inthislifeofsin.]

FACTS!!!!

[@jsun7972]

The move to drop MTG only 1/2 hour after FM dropped was also a smart move. It took all the power out of what was probably Drakes best song in this beef. Drake did the same thing to himself when he dropped Taylor Made. Push ups was dope but it lost power when Drake put out Taylor Made which he later had to delete.

[@tm_35]

​@Victor-bu8ce my question is since when did making a diss become about making a good song?? When we talk about this beef 5 6 yrs from now nobody is gonn be takking about Family Matters bro i promise, Kendrink was right yo that nigga got the culture confused.. Meet The Graham seems like it's shifting the entire conversation this man's character is in question now lol it don't matter how catchy the song is

[@joneschilufya867]

MTG crashed family matters in hours. That’s how u know what was better.

[@Kickinthescience]

This song was a perfect set up for Not Like Us

[@sw33tialucard]

Paints Kendrick like a psychopath, who has the ability to scare you and say the darkest shii one minute with a deadly stare in his face, and then say “I’m just joking” and make you laugh and dance the next minute.

[@leonelTure]

@@sw33tialucardfacts that’s some terrifying shit

[@jm6406]

@@sw33tialucard the power of an artist in the truest sense

[@DARKCITYENT23]

2024 hit em up

[@riotgear6182]

Dude in the white has that look like he just heard his homie got beat down and the dude is looking for anybody that rolls with him lol

[@MsQ9677]

💯💯💯💯

[@BlowTorchDrizy1]

Meet the Grahams is a psycho killer sending you a real-time video of your family captured even though THAT FAMILY LIVE WITH YOU🤣🤣

[@dennisrodriguez7637]

Broooooooooo

[@mr.j410]

Facts

[@sidepriest]

Yooo 😂😂😂😂🤣

[@scottkirkland551]

Totally agree with you,for me it was like Hannibal the psychologist doing a family prevention

[@Hardouts]

Drake was literally an actor/singer. He jumped on the rap music with heavy outside assistance. He worked himself and with help manufactured a new persona and the Charts took him to tbe top. Our bro Kendrick was 💯 from day 1 and was destined for rap greatness.

[@anddickson]

There’s literally a video of Drake at 9 years old rapping with his dad. Cut this crap

[@Butter-p9l]

Drake had those Jewish people at the top that's how .

[@jamardns77]

Exactly. You can literally go back and watch Drake change. I know cuz I was a fan of the original Drake 😂. October's own Drake

[@DueceSpice]

MEET THE GRAHAMS WAS A MASTERPIECE

[@chiokehart-kelly3481]

MASTERPIECE!!!!

[@kgema89]

Ether 2.0 .... my Lord that Friday night was so legendary because Drake had the shortest vacation in human history 😂

[@hudaifah-nn4re]

Low-key worst then ether😭

[@troublenabubble2571]

Buddy couldn’t even get his luggage zipped

[@nadine8764]

It's was a movie in real time 😂😂

[@Jabari410]

For him to follow up that boogy man "ooooooh" at the end of Euphoria with Meet the Grahams was genius

[@fredztuhh]

6:16 in LA was perfect in between those tracks as a sort of warning Drake crashed out with Family Matters

[@FlipStar26]

That "ooooooh' is so bone-chilling. Hits me EVERY time I listen to it.

[@mellowlake079]

So using A.I voice of 2 of our most iconic in hiphop was considered genius...these ninjas weird

[@remix-yy1hs]

Right. Sacrilegious

[@MsQ9677]

💯💯

[@BacchusAurelius-yj4mb]

Turned the whole West Coast against him in one fell swoop. Yeah he's truly a genius 😂😂

[@yourlocalhuman-o4l]

It's disrespectful

[@promellowboski]

😂 at Ish face during this whole thing. He looks super tight right now like they was talking about him personally 😂😂😂😂

[@ericgarrison93]

😂😂😂rightt

[@lyricistanonymous8126]

He’s so distraught 😩😒😅

[@psmathews1253]

He just might be. Looks sus to me😢

[@ecoll8950]

An unnatural allegiance to losers - Katt Williams

[@Sky_Blaze]

That's so sad..imagine defending a known puppet with ghostwriter, who on top of everything is being called a pdf. Drake fans are weirdo lames that should never be allowed to speak on music or someone else's character.

[@reneemechelle442]

That creamy marshmallow guy blending in with the white couches is going hard for Drake. He sounds crazy

[@circlemediaentertainment1979]

Ayo…ayoooo…pause…no diddy…..creamy marshmallow guy is insane work.

[@chuckgamble5696]

​@@circlemediaentertainment1979 Creamy is out of pocket 😂

[@LebronTraveled24]

He always on Drake nuts.

[@timexyemerald6290]

He is Coping hard 😂. Marshmallow on Copium is forever 🏇 Drake's 🥩 for life kind of guy 😅.

[@evensboisrond9629]

They say he loves to dress that way 😂😂

[@NoRhymeOrReason320]

This diss track from Kendrick Lamar against Drake is a masterful display of strategic and insidious artistry. The underlying concept is a haunting character examination that strikes at the very foundation of Drake's persona. The use of the ominous piano strikes evokes a sense of Kendrick stalking through Drake's own domain, exposing the rotten core beneath the surface. The shift in tone as Kendrick relentlessly calls out Drake's alleged lies creates a palpable shift, as if a restless spirit has taken over the proceedings. This track transcends the typical diss track format, delving into a profound psychological dissection of Kendrick's rival. The result is a work that feels like a seismic event in the rap landscape, cementing Kendrick's status as a formidable strategic and insidious lyrical assassin.

[@jeffwilliams2828]

Let’s not forget K Dot warned Drake twice before MTG

[@fredztuhh]

He would've kept it hiphop but Drake had to shit on his wife which historically is his go to tactic

[@samihtameez8584]

So he warned him that he would expose him as a pedophile? If he was really authentically warning him, that would mean he either lied about the pedophelia, or he just didn't care enough to expose him, and only waited until he talked about whitney

[@Kal-El207]

@@fredztuhhKendrick brought his son. It was bound to happen.

[@arkeshn729]

​@@Kal-El207Drake named dropped Whitney in Pushups so he started dragging family in first.

[@tyronebettersofficial]

​@@Kal-El207 he spoke on Drakes parenting skill. He did not talk about his son.

[@musicxavier323]

DEAR ADONIS …. LMAOOOO WRAP IT UP

[@sundayikhuenbor7095]

For real 😂😂😂😂

[@AngeBiampandou]

LFMAOOOOOOOOO

[@MichaelBrown-ti1un]

As soon as I heard that, I walked away from the laptop 😂😂😂😂😂. I didnt 100% know where he was going, but had a general idea just off that opening bar. Kendrick is just different.

[@gmarava7322]

I'm tryna decide which is a more disrespectful start to a diss "dear Adonis " or "that's y I f****d your b*tch " ....dear Adonis is nuts tho😂

[@Ontherockswithjayda]

I was so dumbfounded like hold on whaaaat!???

[@pdcook83]

Drake is a good rapper Kendrick is a superior MC. Kdot can change his flow, change his tone, his cadence , superior story telling ability. Drake keeps the same tone, same everything the whole time he raps, almost like he's reading a book. Drake gives you hits but there's no feeling or heart to it. Kdot gives you visuals, stories, a short movie with his songs

[@rudyversus]

Preach!!!

[@DarkkinTheVoid]

Kendrick executed this perfectly 👌🏾

[@itsRichErich]

The part that ish was missing is that if you got exposed for hiding a child before then it is believable that it may be true again since it was actually true before. Drake has video footage of looking like a creep towards underage girls. However making up something that we've never seen before or anything close (similar) to it is entirely different & harder to believe.

[@anddickson]

He wasn’t hiding a son. The mother had come to him with the child , they were investigating doing dna test to get proof, a girl sleeping with someone on Drakes camp leaked it to Pusha T and Pusha went public with it .

[@bluecafe509]

Hiding a kid from you?? How are his kids your business?

[@JamieMarks-so9ns]

​@bluecafe509 it's the fact that he was ashamed of the woman HE chose to sleep with and rather than facing the consequences of his life he was gonna damn his child to a life of fatherlessness to protect himself like a coward

[@samihtameez8584]

@@JamieMarks-so9ns He was going to revealk him on the adiddas line, but Kanye outted him before that. If he really wanted to hide the kid, nobody would know about it. He wold sign him up for adoption and not tell anyone. Kanye and pusha both just used that as a way to take him down

[@JamieMarks-so9ns]

@samihtameez8584 I guarantee he knew he was about to be exposed, and decided to get ahead of it by revealing the info in a way that would give him back control of the narrative

[@mecca6941]

This record was an Oscar winning horror movie. This would have been a crazy video....damn near another Thriller

[@marcellmclaurin6775]

Watching this segment again, ish is definitely OVHO

[@jaye5926]

no he is being non bias & honest 🙄

[@marcellmclaurin6775]

@@jaye5926 it's a podcast they are there to be phony and not a Stan for either side

[@djane1006]

Kendrick stole that line from Twitter those kids said the want money from all the lines that Kendrick scraped from Twitter and then send as his lyrics such an imposter

[@jaye5926]

@@djane1006 true...

[@marcellmclaurin6775]

@djane1006 Kung Fu Kenny could have stolen every line in that song it was still funny how he put it together

[@polterkat]

Milli Vanilli Vs. Machiavelli If you're failing to see the depth of Kendrick's lyrics that's a self-report not a fact. Listen to Euphoria or Not Like Us a couple dozen more times and realize all the things you're still catching for the first time. Shit has L A Y E R S. If you just like fluff and you don't like getting into it that's fine go dance in the corner or whatever. The rest of us over here doing an autopsy You're arguing about how good they appeal on first and second listens. For Drake that's all you'll ever get. For Kendrick that's just the moment you spot the iceberg

[@coryr94]

Milli Vanilli had girl I'm gonna miss you, Blame it on the rain, Don't forget my number, don't sleep they'd destroy most groups in a versuz.

[@JMartinJ]

@@coryr94they aint even sing that shit foo

[@chrisfrank8564]

I get what u tryna do but cmon, lol u tellin me not like us is LAYERSS 😆 U defeated ur own point w/ this one

[@coryr94]

@@JMartinJ wait whaaaa????

[@Vat6ré]

@@chrisfrank8564it has less layers but there are layers

[@michaelwhite3296]

I truly loved this song. The music. The lyrical visuals. The dark mood. This was truly some Edgar Allen Poe type ishh. I truly understand why he is a Pulitzer winner. Congrats to you Kendrick!!!

[@soonerlilsis]

Agreed

[@christhesoprano]

Joe explaining how brains work to Ish is insane lmaooo please

[@mbealhighjump]

Ish likes to selectively play dumb. Every other argument he says “I’m logical,” but this one he’s now suddenly ultra confused 😅

[@ptyten9718]

Meet The Grahams is gonna end up being the most underrated track of the beef. It completely stole the attention from Family Matters and it's flat out just an insanely good performance by Kendrick, the concept of the song itself is amazing for a battle but his delivery and tone took it to a whole nother level.

[@TikkacanKut2]

Kendrick was never on the defensive or need to explain in his diss. He placed questions attacks Drake and forced him to answer questions. He knew drake was go for hype beats and change the tone with meet the Grahams. He control the beef, aim at his character and label him pedo, which worst the haven a DV in the public eyes. He warn drake and he didn't listen. Then end the battle with a club diss to let drake know he's a versatile artist as wel.

[@ihaveallthequestions]

I may be odd but Meet the Grahams is my favorite because of how the tone was it was methodical. To be clear they are all my favorite Because each has a different tone but that 1 is just a notch above.

[@TheForbidden_1ne]

Where Euphoria, 6:16 and Not Like Us are like hack n slash movies, MTG was like a evil dr. dissecting someone on an operating table while they're wide awake. Straight up precise disaection of Drake's character and he could do nothing but sit back and watch in horror

[@doctorj7112]

Joe has a unique talent that is underrated. He really brings GREAT perspective to music and these artist. This is a great conversation

[@ritzkola2302]

Meet the grahams was like Michael Myers rapping

[@dashuntas.m4045]

This shit just proved the saying “A good name is better than riches”

[@Ava-ze6kz]

👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾

[@devotiffy978]

I feel like Kendrick stayed out the light for this exact purpose, drake really didnt have much dirt compared to what kdot had on Aubrey

[@vee_del_sol]

"I started mourning the ones I've lost" 😂😂😂

[@jonesy2891]

💀

[@riseonthetrack]

WILD😂😂😂😂

[@Allthingsworktogether1125]

Untraind ear = “I make music that electrify ‘em, you make music that pacify ‘em” Thinkers vs Followers

[@anddickson]

What’s electrifying about telling lies on another man ?

[@FlipStar26]

VOILA.

[@ThePqueen1]

🗣💯💯💯 pacify'em, keeping them dumb down also pacifer like lil girls had me rolling

[@treykellybell8583]

The thing I hate about this segment is them trying to call Joe out for accepting Kendrick’s lies, when he said the same thing during drakes record. He said he wanted the lies for both songs

[@allenkoe1]

Kendrick wins it’s over

[@westerngroovetv]

Chill.. Kendrick can still lose. I don't fw drake. But I think he can come back. Just hear me out before you go crazy.. At this point drake can't try to out rap Kendrick.. or double down on domestic violence or Kendrick kid.. if he does that Kendrick will respond and bury him again bc he's just a better artist. I don't think Drake quit. I think he just retreated to fight again. Drake has to come out with something crazy.. I'm talking like, get Kendrick girl in the music video or something. Part of the song got the video of them lying to Kendrick giving him the fake info. If he does that drake would have taken the lead. Ak has eluded to drake dropping again. And so has mal. 2 ppl in contact with drake. So I'm not thinking the battle is over. If you ask me, Drake wrote the heart part 6 which is why it was mid. He needs more time for his ghost writers to write a few more songs. And then he's gonna spark it back up. Full songs dedicated to Kendrick. They cookin up right now. But like I said, he has to drop a bomb. He already dropped his nuke and it didn't work. So he has to do something beyond music. Drop a voice recording of Dave free saying he hit Kendrick girl. Something. But it ain't over yet.

[@cookiemonster64]

​@@westerngroovetvare you done lol drake lost 😂

[@davedupond1231]

Drake team of ghostwriter lost a beef to a single rapper!

Kendrick won b4 it started

[@saintreem]

​@westerngroovetv that's not kendrick girl they been broke up

[@mdlamini3982]

Man, Drake never stood a chance if we being honest.

[@ThePlaybackRoom]

The Drake Stan’s are putting up a better fight than him.

[@jonesy2891]

NEVER 🎯

[@Kadeda]

Kendrick won by strategy. If Family Matters was the last track we heard, Drake would have won.

[@mirzasaysrelax]

AMEN

[@naomithompson7240]

Facts 😂🤣😂

[@debscom2]

I still believe Drake has a daughter....

[@poetthinkersd]

Same😅

[@miamac63]

He does. Knew about it for years. Poor baby. Thank God for Pusha T who saved Adonis. Kids need both parents and need to be wanted.

[@miamac63]

Cc

[@blackhammer5797]

Is a rapper having a child news to you? Literally happens every day

[@carmensandiego223]

Absolutely!!!

[@xandermartin2118]

It’s crazy how far ish has fallen off, he went from everybody’s favorite to everyone begging him to be excluded from conversations…….and it’s warranted tbh, there was no reason to sit and pout for 5 hours straight cause drake lost a rap battle, I’d rather him act like mal and go off, at least he was passionate even if he was wrong, instead of just acting like a spoiled child who didn’t get his way . If that’s how you’re going to be just stay home, you know it’s bad when Mel OutPods you lol

[@njmspete5529]

AGREED! He such an emotional dude and for him to act like that about another dude that don’t even fuck with you! Like, just cry already!

[@dariusroyster]

That man too damn grown to have this kind of energy for another man

[@Siviwe_Smash]

I swear man. Its NOT supposed to be that deep at all😂😂😂

[@VOLRAK1]

😂 Ish burning. Trying to paint the picture of everybody hates Drake, and he was at a disadvantage because everyone loves Kendrick😂😂foh

[@SHANNY13_96]

Lol 😂😅

[@lyricistanonymous8126]

He’s clowning 🤡

[@MsQ9677]

Lol 😂😂

[@detrockcity3]

Whether it’s a lie or not, it’s Drake’s past that makes it all believable.

[@timexyemerald6290]

Yeah. These Drake Die hards ARE THE REASON why nobody is talking about Drakes Sus ass past and his Pedo tendencies. They all go blind when it comes to it. 😅. I say we need to reality check Drakes fans nore than Drake himself. Drake at least knows what he is doing. These Drake fanboys literally let a nuke past themselves without even seeing nothing for decades😅

[@michaelball198]

Everybody talks about Family Matters, but nobody speaks on the fact that Drake embodied Sexy Red at one point on that track, which is WIIIIILD! Especially, in a diss track 😅

[@kennyly7502]

Which part?

[@KwokeKnightK]

​@@kennyly7502after dave free.. shake that ahh baby.. shake that ah for free.. Sexy redd said it inone of them trashy songs of hers

[@kellykahn7403]

​@@kennyly7502 "shake that as$ ho3 hands on your kneez"

[@kellykahn7403]

Like quavo using takeoff to diss chris brown

[@nicolewalsh6656]

I may be a little slow 😂 but can anyone explain to me what Kendrick meant when he says when drake stands next to sexy red he believes drake sees two bad bitches?? So drakes the other bad bitch?? Haha

[@TheAlkebulanTrust]

The ending of this diss was lethal 😭😭😭

[@kingdeebee]

3:19 “Aye, he got a daughter” the way he said this is hilarious 😂😂

[@yungprototype]

Took me out 😂

[@KingContrary]

On another episode of Kendrick offended my YT girlfriend….ish is still tight 😂

[@stinestizzlethegreat6887]

Umar flashbacks

[@mirandatwumasi]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@blueruinray]

Meet the graham’s literally made the world mouths drop to the floor he literally shifted the energy that’s scary genius

[@JGspeakss]

"Meet the Grahams" did what it needed to do from a psychological standpoint in forcing the masses to look at Drake from various angles while invoking several emotions and empathy for Drake's family members

[@TwiceBorn420]

Crazy thing is Im not a huge fan of either one of them, but what Kendrick just so masterfully did is going to be analyzed on so many levels for many years to come, its inevitable.👏🏾🎤🎤🎤🎤🎤🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥💯💯💯💯

[@strongbone9471]

This is what kendrick looks like when he mentally snaps and is triggered. Kendrick just showed what it's like when he gets angry. This is the musical embodiment of when bane in the dark knight rises movie started swinging fast as hell when batman broke his mask.

[@PrinceCortezJones]

kendrick showed he was a liar lol?

[@strongbone9471]

@@PrinceCortezJones ?

[@PrinceCortezJones]

@@strongbone9471 👍🏿

[@strongbone9471]

@@PrinceCortezJones are you feeling ok?

[@atonscott]

This nigga hurt yo drake moved out America sold his houses the jig is up he like my cover blown they know om a industry plant😂😂

[@humanr.e8529]

13:55 bro is hurt over this battle.

[@kynshii]

S/O to Ish for going down with the OVO ship 🚢⚓

[@nolimitbeau761]

😭😭😭

[@Earley_World]

🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

[@beefy45]

Playing that violin as the cold water hits his feet

[@Los150]

😂😂😂

[@joebrown6778]

Oversimplification of Ish's point, while also PROVING Ish's point. The public was primed to hate Drake even before he objectively lost. The bias against Drake is real.

[@makwalamolekoa8212]

The Dracula piano 🎹

[@ja9145]

Idk why theyre having such am argument over the daughter thing when theres much more serious allegations in that songs. But the reason why the daughter thing is more believable is because drake already hid a kid before. Drake doesnt have any past stuff to back up his allegations about kendrick.

[@themostsecretscience6409]

Nwver forget Kendrick Lamar mentioned the industry being dirty and artist covering for it.

[@djane1006]

Which Kendrick should know because he is not clean either and the industry has covered for him.

[@themostsecretscience6409]

@@djane1006 DO tell since you seem so sure?

[@auraholyultimababybaby9367]

​@@djane1006Damn you was in denial sum serious🤦🏾‍♂️are you still?🧐

[@CED.Dweller]

That beat was macabre.

[@lonerebeI]

Kendrick said a lot that was true, that's one of the reasons the impact is so big

[@john-tobeymaguirecena]

Meet the Grahams gave me pure Slim Shady vibes. Pure Bonnie & Clyde *talking to my daughter with my wife in the trunk* type dark. The beat is reminiscent of Eminem’s “Demon inside me” too

[@mevolutionarybyliz]

YES ... this is giving me diabolical Em in his Slim Shady era.

[@americanbaki]

Dont start no song dear my kid yo lolz 😂😂😂😂😂

[@JonathanThicklin]

nah deadass

[@SabihaK25]

One is known to be a gambler, have a child with porn star, slept with his friend’s girls & the other has stayed in a relationship with his high school girl (even though he admitted to his issues on Mr Morale). Character speaks volumes & if you’re acting like a piece of shit & then someone makes a diss track about you being a piece of shit, people are more likely to believe it. You know how you acting, you know what you been doing. You still went and egged Kendrick to come out, Drake was looking for a fight & now his arrogance got its ass kicked, he gonna try be a victim?

[@Ncwasy]

Ish is hurt hurt 🤣🤣🤣

[@charlezxiii140]

6:58 Foo said "let me talk please" and I got an ad LOL

[@daohezone5176]

Same!

[@babyboyno10]

It’s a song, Ish is taking it more personal than anyone. Drake is his boo.

[@MsQ9677]

💯💯

[@Charmaine6645]

Ish big mad 🤣🤣🤣

[@babyboyno10]

Big mad😂😂😂😂

[@YEP_THATS_IT11]

He just wants to attack women! Its so obvious! And I'm almost 1000% sure he's pissed at Balck women!

[@Donn_G]

​@YEP_THATS_IT11 I normally don't agree with these sentiments but he tweaking shit its hella women that defending drake and ppl belive Kendrick beat his woman but on here only defending drake

[@Dave....]

"You think that's true?" lmao

[@MsQ9677]

Facts!!! 💯💯💯💯

[@allgopodcast]

I hope somebody fights for me the way Ish fights for Drake

[@MsQ9677]

💯💯💯