Adam Eget Survived Three Years in an Abusive Cult

[@yourenotallrightspider]

I was sent to Cedu in 1990 when I was 15. My family dropped me off and then shit got weird. Some kid showed me around the property and talked about the cuddling, but that you couldn't cuddle with the opposite sex. Told me no music, and not just that, you can't even say the names of the bands. Told me if you broke the rules you went into "banning" where no one talked to you or acknowledged you. They cut all my hair off. The strip search was a staff member and two creepy students who had these grins the whole time. I took off, ran down the mountain road, hitchhiked my way to town and back to my family. They didn't make me go back. Was at Cedu for about an hour tops. I was told at the time no one had run away successfully. Seeing this years later is freaky af. My heart goes out to the kids who had to endure this place.

[@daxprime7039]

You actually saved your own life. If you never seized that escape opportunity you probably would have ended up dead or brainwashed. Thanks for sharing your story!

[@alexandermcdowell720]

Holy shit

[@cosmo4886]

Goddddddd dammmmmn

[@heihat1224]

Im so thankful you friggin escaped..i had a bout in a Christian cult..but i escaped too..the sad thing is my ex did not..we had been together for close to 9 yrs..that part was the hardest

[@fathercarlos808]

fucking crazy story man congrats on being very good at life

[@joshkrahenbuhl5002]

What a good dude, even with rising inflation, he still only charges $15 a man.

[@thellewelynmoss]

LOL

[@sean_mo0ney_078]

I’m pretty sure the fact that he met him under that bridge also insinuated that Norm was frequenting the bridge to be sucked off for $15 😂

[@thellewelynmoss]

@@sean_mo0ney_078 that would make sense, but I doubt norm would admit it, considering how deeply closeted he was

[@Stj209]

@@sean_mo0ney_078 jerked*

[@bigernmccracken712]

I heard it was $15 a punk,....oh well, tomato-TOMATO

[@timarmstrong6257]

I always assumed Norm was just joking about Adam being in a cult. What a trip

[@twism11]

That's the genius of Norm

[@Mr.Isquierdo]

@@twism11 lol

[@shalizzle793]

Cult of the Mangrate

[@bennywhite7062]

Do you actually believe this LOL. Did the Paris Hilton insert not tip you off?

[@Gelato__33]

@@bennywhite7062 she released a documentary about her time spent in a facility for “troubled youth”, so it’s possible.

[@BobbySacamano]

I honestly hope Adam is doing okay and still charging at least $15. I can't imagine what it's like to lose that kind of family. He's clearly a very cool and interesting dude.

[@pounchoutz]

A school for punks

[@col.nugget1524]

good to know he made it out of there and finally got that gig giving 15 dollar tug jobs under the bridge

[@Omegaman18]

Inflation

[@VincentDelmino]

Adam is very experienced now. He’s not just some old bag

[@Publiksquare]

That's hard coin

[@thewhat531]

I always wondered where he gets his ideas from

[@TheBorwig]

He’s a great man.

[@travislastname4668]

He is a revisionist

[@TheSickGman09]

@@TheBorwig oh no I'd say a fine man

[@stevenphillips6127]

The University of Science.

[@TheSickGman09]

@@stevenphillips6127 why logic? Who ever heard tell of such a thing?

[@the_creed7969]

Ya know, the more I learn about these CEDU fellas, the less I care for them. They sound like a bunch of real jerks..

[@JonnyUnderrated]

Harsh! But fair. Carry on.

[@nathanieledwards7150]

God bless Norm! I'm glad someone else remembers

[@TwilightGem11]

You have no idea.

[@Looch27]

Good old Fish

[@troubledteenhelp2354]

Listen up Joe! You better not be making us look bad again. We CEDU people are a dangerous bunch. You will pay for these 159,527 views.

[@TairyHesticles]

Adam is such a calm, seemingly well-adjusted adult. It's crazy to hear about his childhood.

[@mortyjames5897]

He is still affected by it a lot though I think. He used to have a problem wth drugs, alcohol & weight but he seems to have conquered it.

[@mr.smithgnrsmith7808]

Is he?

[@AtlasCompleXtheProd]

He seems really numb though, it's kinda weird :0

[@thebrazilianatlantis165]

@@mr.smithgnrsmith7808 He turned around the Comedy Store and he has Norm Macdonald's back and he's friends with Spade. He's still relapsing sometimes which he needs to just give up, it'll catch up with him.

[@twism11]

You won’t say that after a late evening visit under the Queensborough bridge.

[@a75lane]

I went to The Cascade School which was a spin off of CEDU. Hearing someone as laid back and funny as Adam talk about it with Joe Rogan, who is also cracking me up with his commentary, is actually really healing. I’ve told a couple people in my family what I went thru, and they just didn’t really have any response, and never asked me about it again. This video made me feel less alone. So much love to anyone else who went to a school like this. Many kids who did are gone now. To the ones still here, I’m so grateful for you. ❤

[@TheKitchenerLeslie]

Sounds like a CIA-run program like Jim Jones' cult. They were experimenting on people a lot back then without their knowledge as part of MK-ULTRA or the CIA Finder's Program. You never hear this, but Charles Manson was part of these types of programs, so was The Unabomber.

[@magnusgranskau7487]

sorry you had to go through that

[@CantTellYou]

I don’t know how someone could have no response to hearing that. This is stomach-twisting insanity, all those people in charge of “programs” like that belong in prison forever

[@zackwebb8697]

My mom tried to drop me off at a place like that when I was 12. I marked that I was gay on a form and they sent home with her lol still proud of that

[@Smokeyxz]

When being gay saves your life... damn

[@matthewhernandez5690]

Legend

[@1999rustey]

Nice strat

[@nteta10k]

Why are all seeing this in 2021

[@fighterofbosses]

@@Smokeyxz ow

[@amberthegriffin]

He mentioned that Paris Hilton went here...she just released a documentary that was pretty much all about her terrible time spent at a facility for "troubled youth". Wondering if it's the same place?

[@LordShagRag]

She stated that she went to and escaped from Cedu. The doc mostly focused on her experience at Provo.

[@amberthegriffin]

LordShagRag OH yep!! That’s facts :) Thanks

[@floridasoldat]

There are tons of CEDU-derived schools everywhere and they always end up being shut down but then the staff just shuffle around and open up new places somewhere else with new names over and over and over. There have been tons of these places and they’re all very similar. A huge percentage of the kids I went there with in ‘08-‘10 have killed themselves or are drug addicts now. Awful, awful places that do nothing but traumatize people.

[@gibshredcamel]

@@floridasoldat nothin left to do but smile smile smile

[@RoaringMind]

@@floridasoldat my goodness, that is so terrible...glad you made it out.

[@profoundwanderer1441]

I met Adam Eget once under a bridge. He's got real soft hands.

[@user-gn4ts8jb7n]

Hahahaha

[@twotoekenn]

Best 15 dollars ever spent.

[@mattm8932]

I was a punk once as well

[@user-gn4ts8jb7n]

He was the closest thing to a woman that town had

[@jamie2015]

I don't get it what this is about?

[@Hunter-om5vc]

As a fella that also had a rough time, I can see myself in him. That quiet desperation, like everythings okay despite how dark it all was. I even give handies under the Queensboro bridge, just like him.

[@jcig3950]

How much do you charge?

[@stickemuppunkitsthefunlovi4733]

​@@jcig3950$15 and he's an anti semite.

[@zweismoblastus]

@@jcig3950 its free and quite good

[@muddbear6410]

Adam Eget: I was in a cult for 3 years. Norm: you know this guy's a holocaust denier?

[@mattm8932]

$15 a man

[@muddbear6410]

@@mattm8932 😂 I'm dying over here!!

[@georgelincolnrockwell6266]

You don’t wanna start talking numbers and deaths with this guy.

[@yodythewoadie]

"I had a bar mitzvah!"

[@beachcracker]

ENTHUSIASTIC Holocaust denier

[@jrose9170]

I went to a CEDU school, though this interview is a casual conversation, the experience was intense and horrible, complete brainwashing. It's hard to explain to people in a way that truly explains the experience.

[@LSPD1909]

Jesus!

[@facehunter504]

Same here.. shit was wild

[@fh2557]

@@facehunter504 need more info

[@thedude7726]

My uncle did and these storys are tame to what ive herd

[@LMAODOODZ]

Reminds me so much of my time at Judge Rottenberg Center which used electric shock treatment.

[@NY51663]

That cult was located under the Queens borough bridge, only cost five bucks per session.

[@_Wai_Wai_]

A session of what?

[@kolbytard]

I thought it was 50 bucks a man

[@justinrutlidge7367]

@@_Wai_Wai_ it's a joke from the Norm Macdonald show, he's Norm's sidekick

[@kirklagasse213]

15 bucks a man

[@mott7913]

I scrolled to find around hoping this was mentioned

[@JohnDoe-vu2he]

When I was 14 my parents brought me to a similar institution called Kids Peace in Allentown PA. They told me it was like a boarding school for troubled kids but when I got there i quickly realized it was basically juvenile prison. Most of the kids there were there on court orders. Strip searched, they’d shine flashlights in our faces every 30 min at night. We went to school but a lot of the kids could barely read. The staff members acted more like correctional officers than staff. I won’t lie though it gave me a new perspective on life and definitely straightened up my act. I became good friends with my roommate (black kid from inner city Delaware) and one day I saw him staring at the pictures of my family I had taped on the wall next to my pillow. I said what you doing bro and he said mann you have an amazing family. He then told me how his dad were murdered and his mom has died and he had lived a life of crime to try and support his sister (who was also at the same institution). I realized there are people who have it way worse than me. When I came home I was grateful for everything. Freedom is everything

[@cherylbrown-m4i]

did u stay in contact?? that makes me so sad. i had it hard...not that hard tho.

[@DomKickPicks]

From reading area can confirm.

[@lockwave7651]

A cult with an active serial killer and missing kids? American Horror story season 4,003

[@sonnygivens4549]

They already did a cult esk one didn't they?

[@SUPRESSOR106]

More like True Detective season 1, but okay.

[@MrGinganinja2011]

Yeah they did one literally called AHS cult

[@Praescribo]

Yeah my bullshit detectors were going off the whole time he was talking. It was almost like he was checking on Rogan's reactions to see of he believed him as he's telling the story. He just throws the serial killer in there casually near the end (you'd think thatd be a headliner, and an easy source to check unless he somehow forgot the name...) and a bag of of 4 days worth of water? I'm imagining, like, a fish tank bag, how tf would you drink from that?

[@steveflow1332]

I saw your profile icon and got a little pissed lol. Then I saw it said stupid 😂

[@AB-mg8is]

One question about this cult: was it or was it not located under the Queensboro Bridge?

[@siriusly7081]

It was, i was the bridge Nothing to see here, but a subscribe would be appreciated 🙏 😊

[@alexeilindes7507]

That's kids aka straight inc

[@JustADude-ji5eh]

$15

[@brentvalleywhag3477]

Skeptro Prod. Ew

[@theoppressionchamber5814]

hahaha

[@realgoodmind]

My best friend growing up was sent to a school in Western Somoa. He was there for a year and a half. He was a maniac. Isolation boxes of steel on the beach he would have to stay in for a week at a time. He turned 18 and they couldn't keep him and part of it was parents have to buy a plane ticket back home for when they are 18. He called me when he got back and was out of his mind just a loose cannon. He was shot and killed less than 2 years later by a guy protecting himself on his own land. These schools produce monsters. Kids are abused and psychologically tormented while they are there.

[@xaviermccorriston1511]

check out Glen Mills in PA

[@JoseSanchez-zo5tb]

@Trader Teamer Name some.

[@te9591]

Yeah, I don't see how putting a crazy kid around more crazy kids in physically extreme situations is going to produce a sane and well adjusted individual.

[@JoseSanchez-zo5tb]

@@te9591 Parents are crazy or wealthy Democrats.

[@kubobetterrelax7435]

You mean Samoa? Yeah the Polynesian islands in general have horrible abuse. I think some physical discipline is ok, but abuse is disgusting.

[@MICHAEL_MAY_8]

I'd say the cult did it's job. My understanding is that this guy found pretty steady work after graduating. Charged $15 a pop!

[@Toxxsicklemons]

Why is he charging them ? I couldn't find that onvo

[@yourfriendlyneighbourhoodc3908]

@@Toxxsicklemons when you’re good at something, never do it for free and this man was good at what he did underneath the Queenboro Bridge

[@jackmclean4120]

You know he's a Holocaust denier, too.

[@yoojin8620]

Jerkin' punks fifteen dollars a man!

[@roscoe4092]

@@Toxxsicklemons I couldn’t find the onvo either

[@jameslitt5239]

Very impressed about how he integrates this bizarre experience in his life's narrative. No bitterness, just openness to what life makes you witness. What doesn't kill you makes you more interesting.

[@rodrigosousa13191]

Very well said. He doesn't whine or bitch or play the victim. I admire people like this. They're humble and humility is the greatest sign of maturity

[@SafeFromWork]

What doesnt kill you makes you inherently weaker

[@EgyptianSpaceDog]

@@SafeFromWork That's definitely not always true

[@SafeFromWork]

Hahahaha it's from norman he said it.

[@EgyptianSpaceDog]

@@SafeFromWork Wow okay, I'm kinda ashamed, aha. Guess I've gotta watch more KZbin clips of him

[@joefosh]

i was in a cult once, they told me i had to conceive, believe, then achieve... then some british guy knocked me out with a left hook

[@user-tu2dr3ny6x]

uhh uhhh uhhh you know where you are?

[@markbass7306]

Like every self help book I'm not gonna read

[@bantamfedor]

He made Dana lol with that one. "Shut the fuck up!!"

[@Manamanamana36]

😆

[@Turk_2023]

Was the British guy a pirate with 1 eye?

[@Asdfgfdmn]

There is no comments section in Spotify, enjoy it while it lasts

[@forrestallen9354]

Hes still going to upload to youtube.

[@ETWCBf3CLAN]

@@forrestallen9354 For a short amount of time, then spotify gets full exclusivity

[@EXTENDEDWARRANT]

someone said clips will still be uploaded here. I dunno if that’s true or if the amount of clips will be the same either tho

[@forrestallen9354]

@@tormentor6737 He said they will still be posting these clips to youtube indefinitely.

[@kieran6417]

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[@elizabethevans2960]

I went to CEDU and this shit is REAL. It's crazy, 24 years later, to hear it openly referred to as a "cult". It was. Just hard to wrap my head around.

[@victorkreig6089]

Especially being a kid, usually stuff like that happens to grown adults. Hope you're doin alright

[@sganet_]

Which ones did you go to? I went to CHS 03-04’, Ascent x2, and NWA.

[@Gestr3482]

Ascent and Running Springs here. I got lucky. Only there for 1 year.

[@haleyhompstead5526]

I did 9 years in residential schools. I went in at 8 and came out when I was 17. I was physically, sexually and emotionally abused. End residential schools. #breakingcodesilence

[@helenperez17023]

damn, i am so sorry you experienced this. No one speaks about this, what a horrible experience. I hope you are doing better now.

[@minigrande1939]

I wish you well for the future Haley x

[@Silveryback]

Holy crap that sucks, I'm so sorry!

[@ChodeMaster]

Holy shit 9 years what the fuck

[@haleyhompstead5526]

@@helenperez17023 I am using my experiences to fight for other kids like me now!

[@akagamekagerou8567]

My parents sent me to Egypt to memorize the Quran for a few months. I stayed in a very hostile abusive environment that beat and whipped kids until we bled. Listening to this makes me feel differently. When I was 13 I wanted nothing more than to get back at my parents, but looking back on it I learned real hardship. I went hungry for days, I really saw human struggle and I think it was a sobering experience. However I do think overall it had a negative impact on my life and drove me towards debauchery I won’t get into within KZbin comments. All I can really say is though this gave me a new outlook on it. Thanks.

[@avitalmorgenstern]

Can we have a cia agent investigate this guys "debaucheries"? Jk

[@mousaabutaa353]

Same yoo in Cairo

[@porkchawpshandappleshash789]

I’m sorry you and the other children experienced mankind’s perverse interpretation of the Most High. I’m not speaking about the Quran but the actions of the abusers.

[@samsalamander8147]

Wow

[@GS-zc4sk]

Your parents needed the sobering experience

[@patrickhart2483]

That guy who murdered those kids sounds like a real jerk Almost as bad as Stalin

[@yungluka9994]

Wow, you did not say Hitler. Im impressed.

[@TheSquareOnes]

He was thinking like Albert Fish for sure.

[@ciarancosgrave]

@@yungluka9994 Me too.

[@saadwaheed465]

or churchill

[@paulfroelich1024]

Gray in appearance and demeanor.

[@hyponomeone]

I love inspirational stories like this - a perfect ending, after all those trials and tribulations, he finally got a fulfilling and well paying job, and 15 bucks a pop, at that?! Truly inspiring.

[@videobatches]

This is the best one for sure I really didn’t expect it 😂

[@kaj7135]

That’s more than his net worth!!

[@CantTellYou]

Did his TV show pilot ever get made?

[@jackthemac5210]

I’ve watched all the Norm shows with Adam Eget as guest host and I’ve always liked Adam for his genuine demeanor. I know he gets a lot of flack from people online but this was pretty eye opening. Shows you should never mistreat people because you either don’t know what they are going through or have gone through in life. Never assume

[@giorgioIP]

Do people really hate on Adam unironically?

[@theoriginaltommysteward]

I don't actually think people hate him... to me it's always lovingly ironic because his literal role on the show was to be somebody Norm just abused the whole time. He's in on it.

[@giorgioIP]

@@theoriginaltommysteward exactly

[@leonardodealmeida5087]

@@theoriginaltommysteward I think it's a bit. They probably talk about it with the guests. But general viewers don't know so it's easy to assume they mock him for fun

[@Turk_2023]

@@giorgioIP I mean he is a Nazi supporter

[@josephbaron3049]

What a fascinating story. He seems like such a grounded and stable guy now -- you'd never guess he'd been through something like that. The fact he can look back and laugh at this shit is admirable.

[@alphaclam]

He's been hardened by years of jerking off punks under the Queensboro bridge for $15 a man.

[@AriPicard]

Many of the most grounded people have been through hell

[@maryjoana5954]

@@AriPicard how so

[@TheAmbush101]

Mary Joana They see the totality of their experience and compare it to the relatively inconsequential issues of the masses. As such, they can put the rest of their experiences into perspective and see that things could be worse - or, alternatively, are much better than people liken it to be - from their reference points. Naturally, it isn’t as if all who dealt with hell are grounded; some are better than others. Some stake the memory as a reminder into the ground and walk away for greener pastures; others stake it into themselves and feel the pain with each step they take - forever stricken with the pain unless they can pry it from themselves. Seeing the rusted, gnarled spear draped in a crown of briars from afar makes thistles and sharp branches seem meaningless; however, if one is pierced by the memory, the cuts just constantly remind them of the throbbing pain they cannot push away.

[@alvareo92]

yep, seems

[@riz8822]

"Adam explain to the folks at home what a cult is."

[@PostPatriot]

Unfortunately it wasnt a cult. It was a reeducation center.

[@PostPatriot]

@Eddie Bravo What was the point in restating my comment? Have you been kicked in the head too many times? 😂 I knew about Mel Wasserman and his CEDU weirdness long ago. Funny thing is, he basically decided to make the desensitization film live action and use children. Ya know, get 'um young and all that. If you want to look into the schools further, try checking out the groups that ran them like Bnei Akiva, a Zionist "Youth Group" and Universal Health Services. The one Adam describes was actually ran by Bnei Akiva who most likely used them for behavior modification research. Fun times back then huh?

[@mattalluisi3954]

Nobody got the norm McDonald reference, godamn

[@waltersobchak7039]

Matt Alluisi “who writes these?”

[@chriswesterfield4818]

you're a real jerk

[@micahelliott1608]

The 90s were fucked up. I got put in a place like that in 92 when I was 12. This episode has been so unbelievably therapeutic. Thank you so much. No one ever believes me

[@zmessiah5516]

Damn

[@hagegesamuel]

I believe you

[@jonathaningram4069]

He is so level headed for being through the shit he’s been through lmao mad props

[@OffGridInvestor]

Sometimes the people that come out are very level headed because they've seen it all. And others end up dying a few years or only months later.

[@TheMikeMase]

that’s how a lot of people are about extremely traumatic experiences. You’ve been through so much pain that you kind of just learn to deal with it, and eventually the power of it starts to fade away

[@sammycas4850]

Psychologically you are older at that point.

[@Xxmeca421xX]

It feels normal when you don't know anything else.

[@alvareo92]

Replace “is” with “seems”

[@j0ndav1s]

This is the most accurate description of Hyde "School" in Bath, Maine I've ever seen, and this guy wasn't even talking about the same school. This is crazy. These people need to go to jail.

[@ARW93]

You mean to say they’re NOT in jail????

[@jiffydahlgren7990]

Hi Jon. It was wild to see your comment at the top of the comments because I attended both, Hyde and CEDU. Yikes, I know! However, the two are not comparable. CEDU was seriously abusive and, although Hyde was a program that left many feeling 'different' or dimmed their light, CEDU's mission was to break you. It was an offshoot of the synanon, a cult that is considered among the most dangerous cults in America.I do see how the "big Brother' lingo seems familiar. Many of the CEDU staffers DO belong in Jail. It is mind-blowing that they are not only roaming the streets, but that many of them continue to work with children. SCARY!

[@j0ndav1s]

@@jiffydahlgren7990 I feel like children were more selectively used and broken at Hyde. Are you familiar with Mr. Chubbuck?

[@j0ndav1s]

@@jiffydahlgren7990 Also, what campus did you go to, and for how long? If you don't mind me asking, I think thinks have gotten progressively worse at Hyde, specifically the bath campus, because of the way they (and this is a direct quote from staff) "don't hire anyone that doesn't cry during their interview." They have a lot of young, easily manipulated staff, mixed with a few truly sick human beings.

[@jiffydahlgren7990]

@@j0ndav1s I was there for one year in the late 90's. I don't recall a Mr. Chubbuck. The staff were really great when I was there. I am sad to hear that it might have gone down hill.

[@mattyyoungcloudsart3008]

This guy laughs just hard enough for me to think he still has some lasting issues from childhood

[@itsmejjackie888]

I feel this

[@conspiracycornerpodcast4302]

I was abused and people have told me that too

[@MadVolbeat]

Fuck,i laugh the same way. I see how awkward is from the outside haha

[@klife67]

A good hardy laugh keeps you from busting the gut crying...

[@luv2luv720]

Very highly possible!! Understandable

[@radbradke]

I know someone who had to endure a place like this in the late 90's. Insane how this racket is not more publicized. Sickening.

[@SupportThe0ppositeNPC]

"It's fun to be in a cult but more profitable to be a leader" - Creed Branton

[@jq7323]

"Two eyes, two ears, a chin, a mouth, ten fingers, two nipples. A butt, two kneecaps, a penis. I have just described to you the Loch Ness Monster. And the reward for its capture? All the riches in Scotland. So I have one question: Why are you here" -Creed Bratton

[@mandarinorange572]

THANK YOU. Always good to see some good creed quotes ❤️

[@chopydave]

BOBODY

[@mattbean3513]

The Taliban is the worst. Great heroine though

[@mikepark8891]

Nobody insults Creed Bratton and gets away with it. The last person to do this disappeared. His name: Creed Bratton

[@Blake-qk5yx]

"my kids acting up because his dad left hmm maybe we should send him away for 3 years" awful parents

[@dremoore9436]

His mom should have just joined a dating site, that have showed him 😅

[@eddierodriguez8463]

@@dremoore9436 lmao

[@nomaderic]

Keep in mind this wasn't 2020. The parents had no way of knowing this wasnt some normal accredited school

[@mattsmith9465]

@@nomaderic it's still bad parenting, the kids fucked up because dad left and there plan to help him is to abandon him in the desert with strangers for 2 and a half years

[@OffGridInvestor]

Incredible how they think that something is wrong with the kid when the main person they aspire to walks out, so then send them off to some place that screws them up EVEN MORE.

[@dantean]

CEDU came out of Synanon, one of America's most horrific cults. This is no joke.

[@jennybentz7298]

I went there when I was 12. I met Paris Hilton at the boot camp in Idaho. It was horrible. And to top it off I was sent away for prevention. Places like that should have never existed.

[@charliemike13]

Jenny Bentz where was it in Idaho?

[@charliemike13]

Jenny Bentz how long were you there? Are you okay or do you have lingering issues from it? If I’m prying, I understand if you don’t reply.

[@jennybentz7298]

Charlie Mike RMA was in Bonners Ferry

[@jennybentz7298]

Charlie Mike It’s all good, I wouldn’t put something out there if I was uncomfortable. I was at Ascent for 6 weeks, then CEDU middle for a little over a year, then RMA for about a year and a half. And not that we ever really had any education at all, but “they” and my parents skipped me a year in “school” so that I could go to RMA high school. I was the youngest to ever graduate RMA.

[@batcoun7ry]

His story is really sad, he still laughs like he’s a young child/toddler. Bless him though and fair play as he’s obviously grown up to be a man and can speak about these things. What a horrible place to send a struggling child.

[@ack153]

My heart goes out to all of those lost kids. When kids act out like that, it's usually a response of something that happened to them in childhood.

[@alvareo92]

or before this lifetime!

[@zweismoblastus]

@@alvareo92 clown

[@douggainey]

Unless the kids have some sort of mental disability, this is 100% always the fault of the parents and the environment/manner in which/how they raise their child. I would bet the house that 99.9% of the parents of these children are mentally unstable, in some manner, themselves. Shitty parents create such demand for places like that due to 2 reasons... 1- Their incompetence as a parent causing these issues. 2- Their willingness to even entertain the idea of sending their child to one of these places.

[@p2dar2daag90]

Huge fan of him and norm. He seems like a very sweet guy. Hearing him say he was a cutter kinda broke my heart

[@Alexios_CV]

@benadryl cabbagepatch and a holocaust denier

[@hm09235nd]

@@Alexios_CV hihi hoho haha we regurgitate stale norm in-jokes for like 6-7 years eithout switching anything up it’s still funny to us tho!! Hihi hoho haha

[@Alexios_CV]

@@hm09235nd Its not that bad :)

[@cwstewartjr1973]

Sweet guy for a douchebag

[@MohamedMohamed-tr2rz]

@benadryl cabbagepatch he’s a Jew…

[@djrakman3909]

In the news 1993: A 17-year-old boy disappeared from the Campus. He was never found. 1994: A 14-year-old boy disappeared from the Campus. The family believes that he was abducted. He has not been found. July 1994 - Jon A. committed suicide in one of the dormitories of lower Camelot at Rocky Mountain Academy. 1997 - Five persons were injured in a riot at Northwest Academy. 2002 - CEDU Educational Services, Inc. pays settlement to former client on charges of abuse. 2004 - Parents search for their son who ran away from CEDU Running Springs. 2009 - A police investigation is conducted into the unsupervised presence of the convicted killer James Lee Crummel on the CEDU Running Springs Campus in connection with the two disappearances in 1990s. 2012 - The first book about CEDU is published by Waxlight Press. The Discarded Ones: A Novel Based on a True Story by James Tipper marks the first detailed account of life at the school in literature. 2015 - Dead, Insane Or In Jail, a CEDU Memoir written by Zack Bonnie was published

[@sganet_]

Also this kid hung himself in the shower at CHS, I found out about this on the second night I was there when I asked why that dorm was always empty lol.

[@matevzrantcater]

@@sganet_ deam u were actually there? Whats your experience?

[@tawdryhepburn4686]

SGANET Jesus. You were a... “student.” I’m so sorry.

[@ianwalton284]

Sounds like the Mace Kingsley Scientology Ranch School. You can Google that shit.

[@sganet_]

mat123 I ran away, got caught, then was sent to their wilderness boot camp in North Idaho, it’s called Ascent, it was winter too lol. CHS itself was... a nightmare, but their boot camp was just another level. It’s a very long story, I ended up in CEDU’s NWA program in Idaho after I finished Ascent. People who think CHS is bad, trying spending a few months in ascent during winter lol.

[@jasonshields515]

Adam is heartbroken I’m sure . Jokes aside Norm had few people he considered his true friends . Artie Lang is one , and Adam is another . He lost what we all admired . Lucky guy to have had Norm as your friend . Hope your doing well Adam . This was a sad year

[@JosephScott-ct9sw]

"Norm had few people he considered his true friends" Norm had a lot of true friends. Adam was one of the closest.

[@floridasoldat]

I got sent to a CEDU school as well. Unfortunately these places are everywhere and every time they get closed the same people shuffle around and open up new places with different names. Tons of the kids I went there with in 2008-2010 have killed themselves or have drug problems. Like me. Horrible places.

[@MarianoGabrielConti]

hope you are doing better, send you a hug.

[@danijudy92]

Same story for me. Just change the lingo, rebrand, and start all over again in a different state. VA from 2008-09

[@oldironsides4107]

Funny story man. If you have a lot of money drug addiction is pretty fun

[@MF_JONES]

I went to one and it was awesome. I don't see what the big deal is

[@fushion999]

Haha what a story Mark

[@hughjaskoch5456]

Jim Jones was the best fighter of all time. Knocked out over 900 people with just one punch.

[@beastmaster415]

Wow...that was pretty funny...the joke that is....what Jim Jones did was fucked

[@PanPan-do1ct]

😆

[@UCUSmusic]

I tip my cap to you my friend.. Enjoy your day good sir

[@beeztrapp1612]

Well played.

[@guillermorivera9417]

Funny...dark...but funny.

[@timothy9182]

Even though he's a holocaust denier, still love this guy

[@shawnlacue8071]

I wonder where he gets his ideas

[@chillbrobraggins383]

I know you're joking and know he doesn't really deny it but it seems some people really think he is an actual denier. It's just a running norm and Adam bit for those wondering

[@chillbrobraggins383]

@unnamed true that, and I hate that comedy has gotten so PC and watered down, but we all know that can ruin people's career if you speak about the "unspeakable" lmao

[@riccardoverde4683]

@@chillbrobraggins383 600 or 6,000000, it's still terrible

[@Goofiest-Goober0h]

Atleast hes not a hypocrite.

[@troublesuiter]

I went to someplace which could be seen as similar, but they did it right. They taught us how to live free and survive in the wilderness. We got along and I found it wonderful. Since then, I had the desire to create my own independent community. It's like the opposite of what he was talking about towards the end. I was given love and now I want to give love to all.

[@idid138]

What was the place you attended? I do think there's a need for, good places like this, with caring qualified professionals. My brother would be awesome at this type of thing. Wish he'd get back into helping youth, like this. I think it's gotta be very emotionally consuming work though.

[@katrabbit]

CEDU is still operating today under a different name in rural Utah. I wish people would stop forgetting about and covering up horrific things like this.

[@ajsky1066]

Teal Swan has talked a lot about rural Utah and Colorado being hotbeds of cults that abuse kids.

[@katrabbit]

@@ajsky1066 this is true. as well as in New Mexico. plenty of land to hide your secrets.

[@jermainhayes4380]

Ok but my thing what’s the point of this ? To rape kids or what like wat do they gain ?

[@resmur8095]

@@jermainhayes4380 money

[@genghiskhan7703]

My buddy went there, kid came out more fucked up.

[@SonOfTheLion]

Sounds like the other kids there where much more messed up and he was just a kid whose parents didn't know how to talk to him about divorce.

[@thebrazilianatlantis165]

He was really messed up and so were his parents to leave him there at 14.

[@chrisgould101]

I can relate. It's horrible.

[@nofox777]

The fact that this guy seems so chill and normal after what he went through is awesome. I'm sure he has to deal with some things but he's really holding it together.

[@robrick9361]

Well 15$ a man really adds up after a while.

[@hew195050]

No he’s not. It’s denial.

[@Relyt345]

That place literally sounds like a nightmare. Considering that story, I can’t help but respect Adam for brushing it off as much as he did. I thought he was soft....Jesus..

[@Dystisis]

someone willing to go through norm's constant (good-hearted) ridicule can't be that soft really

[@jackbennett2269]

Seems like his parents knew, they just told themselves they didn’t know

[@maryjoana5954]

Yeah i dont believe they didnt know either

[@derelictdogma]

This still happens, especially in states like Utah, Idaho, Montana, 'rehabilitation' facilities do the exact same thing except replace crazy cult with mormon cult (still crazy) They subsidize school districts to send students there and the school district gets paid, and the actual facility itself is being paid for by the parents, working out in everyones favor except the person who doesn't have the legal right to do anything about it. The parents always know but there's a sunken cost fallacy when you're spending 8,000 a month on average or something like that and you think you're doing them a favor.

[@Sultan_Kenzo]

@@derelictdogma Uggh sounds horrible, I thought that going to school in the U.S. would be great but if you misbehave you'll get send to those kinda places

[@supertrixie3029]

derelictdogma BBC

[@stevecisneros2810]

@@Sultan_Kenzo most schools are not like that. I didn't even know there were still places like this.

[@INRamos13]

When Adam's in a room with someone who's not Norm, you realize how funny he actually is.

[@ericb8217]

Yeah that It's Not Norm fella is a real jerk.

[@wrenboy2726]

Ever notice how different Adam acted on the first episode of NML vs the rest of them? He's definitely more of his self. It could just be because Super Dave is doing a character the majority of the time and he felt more comfortable, but maybe Norm had Adam turn it down a notch. Norm WAS wanting more of a punching bag, as opposed to a side kick. (I dunno, just typing out loud.)

[@BradleyPaulValentine]

@@wrenboy2726 ...I think the obvious answer is that it was the first episode. He'd never been on camera before, I don't think. If I remember correctly, Adam was also just recently sober, too. So just right there is enough to spin you on another axis.

[@PuffTheMagicHobo]

If you don't realize Adam is going along with the joke then.....

[@hhazze]

Adam is very funny as the punching bag. He knows how to play that role properly and still be funny.

[@KeziaKez]

Kept expecting him to say the cult leader sounds like a real jerk!

[@jarreddeaker2454]

Inspiring story, miraculous that he recovered from downs syndrome too

[@Alexios_CV]

hahahahahha good one

[@josha7248]

Laughed out loud at this cumment

[@VinylUnboxings]

Only second person I've seen beat it.

[@omariyon]

nah hes just 700% irish

[@slim920]

adam : i heard one guy said that he set a homeless guy on fire joe : ... adam : another one would strangle cats joe : oh jesus!

[@eddierodriguez8463]

one guy snapped baby chicken necks at night at the place I was at. when they found out it was him by his boot tracks he broke a couple doors and windows on his way back to wilderness and eventually back in a couple of months liking as fresh as "a pastors son".

[@meowmeow9326]

joes face during the set on fire part was definitely not a non reaction

[@OffGridInvestor]

Welcome to LA..... where too many homeless people are around, and too many rich teenage brats.... thr point is that stuff is probably normal enough for LA.

[@faye_isc]

because cats are innocent animals, as any animal, WHO ARE NOT conscious UNLIKE HUMANS who choose to be LAZY and unproductive like I AM RIGHT NOW watching this instead of finishing my homework

[@amulet137]

I think it's been established in psychology that if you're torturing or killing animals as a child, you are likely to grow up having some level of psychopathy as an adult.

[@Tesstamona]

I got sent to CEDU and was there for nearly a year until it finally closed down in May of 2005- they closed bc they had too many child abuse lawsuits they were losing. Thanks joe for doing this, these ppl were so good at hiding what was really going on and this place was fkng hell and no one knew about it.

[@sganet_]

When did you go? Which program?

[@Tesstamona]

@@sganet_ CEDU same place as this guy, i was there in 2004-2005. i was there when it shut down

[@sganet_]

@@Tesstamona I see, I was there 03-04. Got sent to Ascent around end of January after running from CHS 🤷‍♂️. Ended up in NWA after Ascent. I heard things went crazy towards the end lol.

[@Tesstamona]

@@sganet_ aaaahhh they used to threaten me with ascent all the time, i almost ran too n i changed my mind... n the dude that i was gonna run with went by himself n ended up fkng making it!!! things def went nuts at the end im sure it was just as fkd when u were there tho. im so glad we're both out now n im sorry you had to go thru that shit too ♥️

[@sganet_]

@@Tesstamona the house I ran to from the SB hospital was this old couple, the grandma made me sandwiches lol. Staff at CHS threatened me to send me somewhere worse too on day one, I thought they were bluffing, how can there be somewhere worse? 😂 Next thing I know I was freezing my ass off in the wilderness of North Idaho.

[@gonufc]

"If I didn't go through that I wouldn't be the man I am today." Norm: "Exactly. I'd be livid."

[@thebrazilianatlantis165]

Is that supposed to be a quote from Norm? If so I don't remember it. Norm was abused as a kid too.

[@gonufc]

@@thebrazilianatlantis165 No, it was just a joke that sounded like an exchange from their podcast. Where'd you get that from? I hope you're not believing everything in his book!

[@thebrazilianatlantis165]

@@gonufc Yeah, I was gonna say, you're quoting Norm with something he never said.

[@thewacokid5477]

@Bannable Animal soooooo?

[@jaxsavagereal]

Went to a school like this in Utah. Simlar story and lost ot abuse.. was there for the better part of 5 years. Went home once after 28 months and was Sent back to the same place a few months later.. Definitely messed me up mentally, but I will never let the past hold me back or be a victim

[@Peter_Kropotkin]

Even "normal" mental health facilities for troubled kids are hell holes for sure. Trust.

[@jodawgsup]

Well, to my knowledge this is specifically a problem in the US. Where else do these torturous schools exist?

[@soso-mx8nb]

Mental health services attract psychopaths with superiority complexes to work there...

[@Dyl_Cam]

Trust.

[@jesuschrist9367]

I almost died at one a couple years back some slut tried to kill me

[@daniellaloya8101]

yup, from my experience psych wards are not to this extent at all but still lots of emotional and sexual assault going on

[@tomashize]

I have a lot of respect for Adam EgRet. Being around comics when you're not one. You'll take a lot of flak. He's always good humoured. The kids got grit. AND GuMPTION

[@micksmith5123]

Lol, Joe's not a comic either

[@ihavenoname4851]

Mick Smith well he is...

[@paullabrecque1296]

Not a good one...

[@keepyupy2334]

Paul Labrecque he’s proficient enough. What he really excels at is podcasting.

[@JohnDeanMusic]

Joe Rogan is funny!

[@krrubby]

“Another kid jumped off a cliff” *fades scene dramatically*

[@George-nv1ri]

I was "enlisted" into cedu from 1990 to 1993. The serial killer he's talking about is a guy called James Crummel who was a part time Counselor there, I had a couple of sessions with him myself. Sessions would happen in the day mostly but one time at night one of my best friends, a really troubled kid called Max who I shared a bunkbed with, got called up by Crummel for an impromptu session in the middle of the night which I thought was really weird, especially as most of the staff had gone home. Anyway, when I woke up the next day Max was gone, apparently Crummel said that Max had stolen his keys and ran away, convenient as Max was an orphan who had been left a lot of money by his father but because of his issues had been placed in CEDU by doctors and school but basically had no family. Kids would come and go all the time so I thought nothing of it. Anyway, a few weeks later one of the staff who I actually liked tells me before leaving for the day that crummel is coming in this night and he wants a session with me, so I started to freak out, I decided to leave my room and hide but the only place unlocked was a cupboard where they kept the laundry right next to my room on the corridor, I sat in there from 1am for 3 hours whilst I could hear Crummel walking up and down the corridors looking for me and speaking insane mumbling to himself, everytime hed walk past where i was hiding my it felt like my heart was literally beating out of my chest, I remember being terrified that he would hear my heartbeat it seems that loud, after a few hours he gave up and I heard him leave the dorm and lock up. I told my parents the next day and luckily they decided to take me out of there and were very sorry for what they had done but they didn't know. When I found out who Crummel really was I realised that he probably would have killed me that night, hard thing to live with really and never seems to make sense.

[@noob-master_69]

Sounds fake but ok

[@eleventy-seven]

Was also in there. They pitched it as outward bound type of program through Los Angeles juvenile hall because of a drug charge. I not so easily escaped after 4 days of insanity. I guess it worked as I was so scared of those freaks I stayed in hiding for two years. I heard years later about the lawsuits and was so glad. Pat Bones daughter was there if memory serves me correctly for pot. They had kids begging in Big bear and other places near there. LA obviously played them.

[@pegleg2959]

If you didn't think there was anything weird about max 'running away', why did you freak out when the guy asked to have a session with you? Also, the guy walked up and down for hours looking for you, but didn't look in any cupboards or anything? You describe it like he literally just walked around in circles lmao.

[@pegleg2959]

@@noob-master_69 yeah I kinda does

[@George-nv1ri]

@@pegleg2959 lol I made the whole thing up, don't even live in the US. Glad you found it interesting enough to reply 🤣

[@boss4078]

"A girl slit her throat, a guy jumped off the bridge." - sounds safe.

[@jodawgsup]

You should look into elan.school if you're interested.

[@matthewhernandez5690]

Okay

[@ErayYT]

He was recruited under the Queensboro bridge.

[@kieranclaessens5453]

@Tejin kzbin.info/www/bejne/d4PTnoCal7amhrs

[@pleaseleavemealone5234]

Jeff Gordon lol

[@GrantfromEarth]

www.change.org/p/new-york-city-department-of-transportation-rename-the-queensboro-bridge-to-adam-eget-bridge

[@matiastoatv]

geez dude leave the memes aside he's recounting a horrifying experience

[@jacobbradley9419]

matiastoat42 shut up humor is the best medicine. Plus he’s making jokes about it himself. Please stop being so sensitive

[@itaintnofunn]

That's messed up man. It's cool he can reminisce now, but I imagine it's like escaping a burning building.

[@eddierodriguez8463]

running away, is like running down a road into land that has never been discovered before but you know there can only be bad things coming but its worse than what's back there.

[@hew195050]

The end when he’d like to go back and do it again is scary. sounds like he’s damaged for sure.

[@ac060]

It's nice this is finally being talked about

[@eddierodriguez8463]

I agree

[@themnbvffghjkjhygfd1880]

This is what Paris Hilton’s going to talk about in her documentary she went something similar

[@zombiesabrr]

it is the same place, a ''boarding school''.

[@sganet_]

She was at the CEDU HS campus in running springs, but only a few months. I heard this from a staff during my first week as a student there, later on it was re-confirmed by other students that were there with her.

[@Gnomes4u]

Same

[@corysamoila]

Luciferianism is like this

[@flooid5506]

He literally said she went to the same place he did

[@Jenger420]

From my experience with rehab centers, they get kickbacks from sending or referring patients to certain placra for further treatment.. halfway houses, etc. I would not be surprised if the same happens with other mental health issues. Its mind boggling the profit these centers make from people struggling.

[@wolverinebear5357]

Facts

[@victorkreig6089]

Yeah it's no different than doctors getting kickbacks for putting patients on stuff pharma gives them to push

[@samfields7758]

Ceda alum from 2001, if anyone else is reading this from that time please comment. And if anyone can remember the guy's name that lit the homeless person on fire comment. He told the same story and I'm seven or so years younger

[@BigL.10]

That’s the American social system for you!

[@michaellopez4746]

You can tell that Adam has alot of pain in his past and also you can just tell he's a really good person.

[@elainaardillo3287]

He really is. He was always such a kind hearted kid. I went to this school with him. He shouldn't have been sent there.

[@victorkreig6089]

The people who make us laugh the hardest usually do it so we don't feel as bad as they are or did

[@TheSickGman09]

Ya know... the more I learn about this cult, the less I care for it.

[@mntvl4419]

CEDU spawned the schools I went to, WWASPS. Really dark industry that still exists today.

[@mntvl4419]

@Nunya Business I spent most of my time at Tranquility Bay up until it was closed.

[@littleboxxes]

Yes, Elan school as well.

[@laugh_withcaleb9516]

Elaborate I wanna kno more

[@mntvl4419]

I mean look up "Locked in Paradise" it was a BBC Special that was created a few years back. That video is all about Tranquility Bay.

[@soulcleric]

I went to Carolina spring academy, shithole

[@elhistoriero1227]

Adam Egret is a national tragedy.

[@Kaapo73]

This Adam is Eget, though...

[@elhistoriero1227]

@@Kaapo73 Eggert?

[@elhistoriero1227]

@@Kaapo73 Explain to the folks at home who this Adam Egort is.

[@nodiggity9472]

@@elhistoriero1227 Regret. Like the bird.

[@britchik109]

This is a good one

[@Akooks]

In 2009 I was in an AA cult called New Life in LA that was very similar to this. It was pretty gnarly. They made me wear a toilet seat around my neck for a week one time, even out at AA meetings. And that wasn’t even the worst part. It was over 18 months long, no cell phone. Sleep deprivation, starvation. It was like the CRASH program but worse. And it ended up that the house manager was High the whole fucking time.

[@nolef7nu7]

there are surprising similarities in the methodology of AA, and Aleister Crowley's A*A

[@jimmyrustler8983]

@@nolef7nu7 Stanhope's mentioned how they're a religious cult many times in his standup.

[@cm3ars]

CEDU actually stood for Charles E. Dederich University.... the founder of Synanon. Of course this was only known to me years after the program.

[@obsticle714]

There’s a book called help at any cost that details connections of different programs and relations of different types of those programs

[@marienabarton5821]

I went to a residential treatment center in my teens. It wasn’t too bad for the most part. They instilled a lot of shame into us and every once in a while if there was a few too many kids being shit heads they would put us on something called “work mode” where they wouldn’t let you talk to each other about any except “treatment” and you were not aloud to play games or watch any thing. It wasn’t so bad except where one time they put us on a “work mode” for like two months. All because a few girls were too stubborn to follow the work modes rule. But like how can you live like that? Coming to treatment for depression, then being forced to be isolated and deprived of any pleasure. It was really depressing

[@roscoe4092]

Sounds like it would only make any issues you already have worse. Crazy that these people were even allowed to do this

[@idid138]

2 months? For other peoples behavior? Punishing the group for the actions of an individual, is really upsetting and feels prejudice.

[@henrikibsen6258]

Makes me feel a bit better about my old Christian school.

[@tylerpearce2000]

do tell us more.

[@dheadhunter413]

Same comment

[@tylerpearce2000]

Dave Whatever any stories?

[@tylerpearce2000]

dheadhunter413 stories?

Ok neckbeard

[@ADekuKid]

It’s a little weird to compare Scientologies confession process to Catholicisms. Anonymous voluntary confession followed by immediate forgiveness is pretty different. Lol.

[@panchoverde5078]

I refused to report my adoptive mother for child abuse because I was afraid something like this was the alternative.

[@artsiecrafty4164]

I knew someone who was sent to Elan School in Maine. She died of a heroin overdose three years later.

[@agelatinouscube930]

Have you read mrjoenobodys webcomic? It's all about his experience in Elan

[@bennyb171]

I watched a documentary about Elan that place is fucked ong

[@jeremiahfyan]

What is Elan?

[@bennyb171]

Jeremiah Fyan it’s like therapeutical juvie. It’s like a cult.

[@EarlFaulk]

Yeah Joseph Ricci is probably in the 8th circle of hell now

[@Omegaman18]

There was an active serial killer while I was there.... bonkers....

[@-roejogan-]

Pretty wild

[@trevorroberson8052]

More like....Yonkers....

[@Hvymetalkitty]

I was sent to the CEDU sister school in Idaho, Rocky Mountain Academy. Trying to explain this experience to anyone who wasn’t there is terrifying. It was terrifying all on its own.

[@sganet_]

Which year? I got pulled right before NWA swapped campus with RMA in ‘04.

[@katrabbit]

there are still dozens of these so called alternative behavior modification schools... I really wish people would start looking further into this. it hasn't been abolished.

[@kevinerosa]

Adam Eget was in a cult? Reminds me of that tragedy underneath the queensboro bridge

[@beeftwinkie2198]

9-11...hahahahaha!

[@carnal61]

Samething

[@Mrayis100]

wouldn’t feel so bad if he wasn’t a holocaust denier

[@cjbrown8245]

All those poor children being abused, 😢 they were so mentally and physical abused. Praying for them all 😢

[@teaCupkk]

A lot of good that will do..

[@alexheat0678]

Ok

[@rubylovesyousm]

@@teaCupkk more than your negativity forsure

[@teaCupkk]

​@@rubylovesyousm Don't delude yourself. Your "positivity" and OP's pious benevolence is self serving and contributes nothing of value to the world. Sterile words meant to make you feel better about yourselves.

[@Tony-iu7sw]

I recall my cousin telling me he was sent to a similar place in San Diego when he was a kid about 17 or so. A lot of illegal activity in that "mental health facility for troubled kids". Luckily he ended actually breaking out and made his way home.

[@PinkPanter572]

That's nothing compared to the abuse he suffered under the Queensboro bridge. Horrifying.

[@bigmike5785]

Balls.

[@B1055BH]

Dopest Black he did certain special acts for $15 a man. He’s way past that now. Let him be.

[@sganet_]

He didn’t even talked about Ascent lol, the wilderness boot camp of CEDU in backcountry Idaho.

[@matiastoatv]

geez dude leave the memes aside he's recounting a horrifying experience

[@bigmike5785]

@@matiastoatv shut up, Karen.

[@ashlady9]

And now Paris Hilton came out with her story along with those other women. These places sound really traumatic.

[@robertstimmel1100]

I don't know if any of you are big history buffs, but cults tend to have a real negative connotation

[@captainramius790]

Much of our history has been altered and filled with misinformation. Gotta take many things we read about with a grain of salt.

[@SolDizZo]

Or so the Germans would have us believe...

[@grognackgarganil9164]

@Buh Duh Duh Dah Duh Or so the Germans would have us believe...

[@grognackgarganil9164]

@@SolDizZo or so the gean beleive

[@NunYurbis]

Some cults are tax-exempted and are illegal to criticize.

[@MonaLisaHasNoEyebrows]

The difference between this cult and Scientology’s “confessions” is that they are meant to be public to cause you shame and humiliation. Catholic confessions are done either 1 on 1 with a Priest who takes a sworn vow to secrecy (they can’t even be legally required to share your confession), you can even do it anonymously through a confessional. The point is to help you get things off your chest, ask forgiveness, and move on without the burden of sin. I just don’t think that’s a fair comparison.

[@consideringorthodoxy5495]

Came down to say the same thing. Russia, during its imperial era, took the vow very seriously. If a priest broke that vow and leaked information from a confessional he would be defrocked, imprisoned, and I believe his tongue was cut out, thought that last measure seems hard for me to believe. I’m orthodox, and our confessions do not at all fit the profile of those cults.

[@MonaLisaHasNoEyebrows]

@@consideringorthodoxy5495 I’m not an Orthodox Catholic but my mother and grandparents are and I have seen the same thing in Orthodox churches. It isn’t about shame, but instead forgiveness.

[@gpower9572]

Confessing in an anonymous confessional is really cathartic. I think Freud said something simple like that if done would lessen the need for psychiatrists.

[@josephalbatross5961]

Owning up and taking account of your wrong decisions is so rarely done. Very good for one's inner thoughts. It's a good step towards changing how you behave, too.

[@eat-lc5rx]

Opening up or confessions put you in an altered state of mind and a more susceptible one since you're reliving past traumas. What should be done in a therapeutic setting can unfortunately just as well be used in a malicious and manipulative setting. One of the worst things you can do to someone, as it's figuratively mind rape.

[@eddierodriguez8463]

well put, it can work but it wasn't used for it to work it was used to put people in line. its hard to explain that

[@Sarcasmtomasksadness]

Damn that reminds me of when I went to a naturopath and she made me do some exercises with my mind where I had a ‘mentor’ or ‘ spirit guide’ was supposed to calm my anxiety but it actually made me feel worse. The lady was real weird

[@GeorgiaOverdrive]

Scientology also has a compound at Lake Arrowhead.

[@peazeralus]

The Arrowhead Center. The mouth of Hell.

[@donpeterson7032]

It’s actually in Twin Peaks. I worked for a concrete contractor that did a lot of foundation work when is was being built. I remember pouring a concrete floor in a huge oval corrugated steel tube that went into the side of a hill.

[@luc.espargita]

Adam's a real funny dude, and you can see in his eyes that he's been through a lot. Hope he's well.

[@frjcde9392]

You know he’s solid if norm took em under his wing

[@drmantistoboggan2870]

Odd looking duck

[@deililahknight3562]

Omg i went to CEDU. Awesome interview! Great job rememner all that. Thank you so much for sharing.

[@sherriexsal]

Imagine being woken up to two grown men pulling you out of your bed, you think you're being kidnapped. Then to be taken to one of these awful schools. That's traumatizing in itself

[@diegoalaniz3244]

They HAVE to make a documentary about this

[@troubledteenhelp2354]

They have. Lucky thing none of have ever gotten too many views.

[@PostalPatriot556]

Benjamin Rallo make a video documenting your story. I’d watch it.

[@duderinoification]

Check out "Under the GW". Great based on true story movie about a sattelite/offshoot program in NJ run by an ex-cedu admin. I was at the program, can attest 100% realistic. Very little artistic license taken. @troubled teen help.

[@thomashoward8622]

I went to a school called Discovery School Of Virginia , and it was exactly like this but we lived outside and were forced to do hard labor and required to build our own village essentially and places of living out of pine trees, it was located in Dillwyn Virginia did more harm than good, a lot of therapeutic Boarding schools are just run by evil weirdos in it for the torment of children and the power and the money, and few who actually want to help the kids but end up leaving when they realize how crazy it is , happened to me know im not the only one who went thru something likes this blown away when I watched this know there's more kids, just makes you stronger and a better person, thou but a few of my friends from the school that let it destroy them. Hope his show gets green lighted will definitely be tuning in. This moved me so much this is the first time I have ever really commented on KZbin.

[@lepolhart3242]

It's awful that some people were destroyed by this. It's a very abusive situation and should be exposed as much as possible. All these institutions should be closed asap.

[@JIBR33L]

Bro I almost went there 😂. Ended up going to another school but holy hell it still had a lot of the same shit, intense labor, cleaning, revoking of priveledges, power tripping, fucked up group therapy, and most commonly isolation.