Install: GIVI TN5127 Crash Bars Engine Guards For BMW F750GS / F850GS

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[@gctimefadesaway]

Thanks for the video, I found it useful. I have a 2022 BMW F750 GS and I fitted the TN5129 today - keep everything loose until all fitted. A few points that may help; 1) I find it strange that Givi provide a mix of bolt types - Hex, Allen Key, Phillips - silver and black !! Horrible ! When we know BMW use Torx almost everywhere, 2) I did not have to remove the right side fairing I just eased it out of the way and covered the edge with a thick cloth to get to the T55 bolt, 3) I reused the original T55 bolts with the Torx heads - they have over 15 turns of grab - the one issue I had was the rear T55 bolt has a washer that cannot be removed and will not fit in the new Givi spacer, they apply the washer then tap the bolt so you cannot lose the washer ! An Angle Grinder fixed that ! For the front T55 I left the washer on. 4) I reused the lower bracket Torx bolt as well - man is that one done up tight ! and thread locked !. Reusing the original bolts looks so much better. Thanks to others for notes on the torque settings 84 - no way !!

[@AdamChandler86]

Thanks for the notes! And yeah, that 84 spec on the torque is STUPID high. Anyone that torques to that will strip the case threads.

[@gctimefadesaway]

Update on my previous comment - oh man there are always one or two bolts that do not mate up ! Today I fitted the left side and could not reuse the BMW Torx bolts up top due to the spacers. Fair enough. I re-used the lower one. The bars left hand top 2 bolts were quite tough to mate up and I had to jack the bars from below keeping everything in play. Also I could not use the two locking nuts on the left as they just would not slide into place. Then there was no way, even with two rachet straps, I could get the pieces together in front of the radiator - it would fit easy either side but not both, grease no help. I had to remove both bars completely, join them together and then slide in place from below. It worked but threw a few other bolts off - which required a rachet strap - which exploded - supposed to take 270kgs of pressure !! So another 3 hours today and it's done. I had previously fitted Givi bars on my Royal Enfield Himalayan and that was an easy job, hence why I went for Givi again. I'm going to need a GoFundMe if a Mechanic ever has to take them off ;-)

[@AdamChandler86]

Phew, what a day you had. Glad you finally got it all together eventually.

[@bsalvis]

I realize this is an older video, but I did watch a few times when looking for crash bar ideas on my '21 model. For anyone with a new '21, be aware they won't fit even though everything on the bike is basically the same. The O2 sensor on the exhaust was moved forward a little bit and won't allow for the bracket to be attached (my guess is emissions changes for Euro 5 ??) . I did find the SW Motech to fit OK.

[@AdamChandler86]

Great tip and thanks for sharing with everyone. Yep, makes sense as a lot of Euro5 bits are exhaust related. Shame but GIVI will likely figure it out.

[@TheMaghnaoui]

you must utilise TN5129 for the model 21 with euro 5

[@stefanpopovici7400]

@@TheMaghnaoui just ordered the tn5127 today preparing to receive my bike next week, and then i've seen your comment. Thanks for this valuable tip!

[@ajshop4423]

@@TheMaghnaoui . Does not fit my 2022

[@khyer123]

Thanks for making this, it was super helpful and saved me a lot of time. Didn't need to remove the plastic like you mentioned, also managed to get the center connected before attaching the left side. My instructions called for the lower brackets to have torque of 23Nm for the smaller screws and 48Nm for the larger ones instead of 84. The engine bolts in the upper brackets were still 84.

[@AdamChandler86]

sounds like they updated the instructions which is good. the original torque specs were intense.

[@UNKNOWN-ph2fe]

@@AdamChandler86 Hello, is it suitable for a 21 year old model or not?

[@marcuswinn8515]

Hello Adam,, Installed the same Givi Engine Guards for my BMW 750GS same color but with ESA. And funny I got the same Sargent Low Seat in exact same black. Trick to getting the bolts up front is to bolt those on after lightly fitting both sides. I lightly unbolted gear side bars, lightly tightened both front bolts to connect the two sides. Finally I tightend down the front bolts and then the engine side bars. Like you, I used medium thread lock for insurance. Rock solid bars and they don't hinder the look of the F750GS. Happy riding.

[@AdamChandler86]

Enjoy. Thanks for the tip!

[@fernandofernando5540]

Man ! good work on showing us thisand thank you so much! The only thing you missed ,was putting the bike down on the ground , just to show how the givi works.

[@AdamChandler86]

Thanks Fernando, I can definitely say it does work. Have set it down a few times. They’re strong enough for the occasional drop.

[@fernandofernando5540]

Thanks Adam for the quick reply! I just got a bare bone second hand 2019 and I'm shopping for crash bars. I saw a couple options going up to the tank line. Wondering if it really need the lower and upper crash bars. best regards

[@julienlewandowskii7841]

Adam, I just installed the GIVI crash bars on my 750 GS and they look awesome. Thanks for your video that inspired and helped me a lot. Greeting from France!

[@ArDragonsurvival]

I bought the same one one for my 2023 year model and there are a few differences but overall it worked was missing a few washers

[@AdamChandler86]

Yeah, the Euro emissions made BMW modify the exhaust quite a bit and it's been a pain for folks to make them fit but eventually it works out.

[@joyn8]

Hi there, great video you made! i've a question, is this crashbar large enough to prevent the tank from being damaged?

[@AdamChandler86]

It is. The tank doesn't touch at all when the bike is laying on its side. the handlebars will though.

[@mindthatroad]

Thanks for the video. A good reference before attempting the fit on my F850GS. Very happy with the end result... I even managed (after much effort) to get the final screw in on the connecting bar. P.S. The European documentation recommends 84nm for upper brackets and 48nm/23nm lower brackets.

[@AdamChandler86]

So glad I'm not alone on that center bolt. I will eventually get it in there. Just needed to take a step back.

[@goochjuice]

Great vid. I had very similar issues when installing this same set of GIVI crashbars on my F850GS. I figured that the high torque spec on the right side lower crashbar mounts was a typo - it seemed way too high for those bolts threading directly into the engine. I, too, could only get one of the screws linking the left bars to the right to fit.

[@AdamChandler86]

Good to know I wasn't alone on this.

[@marcuswinn8515]

Trick to getting the bolts up front is to bolt those on after lightly fitting both sides. I lightly unbolted gear side bars, lightly tightened both front bolts to connect the two sides. Finally I tightened down the front bolts and then the engine side bars. Like Adam, I used medium thread lock as recommended for insurance. Rock solid bars and they don't hinder the look of the F750GS. Happy riding.

[@Vizw1z]

Hi Adam! I know this is an old video but I do really love your rear crash bars around the exhaust. Could you tell me where did you get it? I'm trying to find something similar but I couldn't find it. Thanks! :)

[@AdamChandler86]

Those would be Jesse Luggage Racks.

[@ajshop4423]

So I just spent hours trying to install a set of updated model GIVI crash bars for later bikes, P/N TN5129, on a 2022 F750GS and it does not fit. Even with everything still loose, the right side bars are a long way off from fitting the lower mounts by at least 6-9mm. More critically the rear right main engine bolt replacement bolt from GIVI (120mm stated and re-measured) is too long and bottoms out in the engine thread before being even close to be able to tighten. With the new GIVI supplied 120mm right rear engine bolt bottomed out (i.e. threaded all the way in) there is still 4-5mm of visible thread between the new GIVI supplied spacers, washers, and the mount itself when fitted. It's all be more than quadruple checked and is correctly fitted. It just does not work. As Adam mentioned, the tube joiner in the front lower of the radiator is way off from joining. Mine is way worse than his (Heather's) was from a distance apart perspective. The instructions are terrible. There are no bolt torque figures listed, nor do they list all the tools required. I'll be getting onto GIVI distributer tomorrow, but I'm expecting a "goat rope" of a time sorting this out.

[@AdamChandler86]

This is because the 2022 is EURO5 compliant so the entire lower portion design changed by a couple of inches. You’ll have to purchase a newer model from GIVI that works with that revision. It was a silent change that made crash bars, skid plates and aftermarket exhaust for F750 completely not fit. Happened right after we bought this one so I’m sorry for misleading you.

[@saluteaussie]

Hey Adam thanks for the great video, may i ask where you got the torque specs for F750GS as my Givi crash bar did not supply the torque specs

[@AdamChandler86]

Mine came with a sheet in the box with the torque specs. Odd that they stopped including it.

[@janekkatana8632]

Does it protect the upper plastic (around the bmw sign) ? Could you lay the motorcycle on the one side on the ground and check?

[@AdamChandler86]

Heather already dropped the bike going up our driveway. The upper fairing didn't touch the ground the but the outside of the handlebars (bark buster covered) did get pretty scratched up. The bike was completely on its side. In my opinion, no uppers are needed. If you crash hard enough to need them, broken fairings are probably least of your issues.

[@joediver7669]

My 2022 F850GS came with a center stand.

[@AdamChandler86]

Correct. The low model does not come with it.

[@MotoTravelUSA]

How have these worked out for the bike? Still have them on it or did you end up getting something else? Thanks

[@AdamChandler86]

These are fantastic tip-over bars. We've used them at zero speed on some lost footings and they have done the job. no issues. I'm not sure I'd trust them to do more than that...most likely your handlebars will take more of the impact so a good set of bark busters is advised.

[@MotoTravelUSA]

@@AdamChandler86 appreciate the reply and info... Thank you

[@ivandelaviuda3192]

Hi Adam, what is the brand of model of the windscreen? Everything I find has been made for long clip, but my f750gs has a short clip for the windscreen. Thanks

[@AdamChandler86]

Hi. The brand is MadStad. It’s a small shop out of I think Florida, USA. I’m very happy with it and they even include these great aero-winglets that block air.

[@OscarFramil]

Adam, what is the name of the other brand that oyu mention outriders, artwriters?

[@gyomtu]

I would like to know, How much are you spent in after market accesories? So far...

[@AdamChandler86]

$1400 probably? it's going to exceed $7000 when all is done. If you've seen my previous builds, this should be no surprise for people who are not new to the channel.

[@JW-pi8yc]

Adam, I have not been able to remove that motor mount bolt @ 5:27 more than about a dozen threads. Tried warming the engine up, putting lift under the engine as I unscrewed, heat, breaker bar nothing has worked, it feels like it might be catching on the frame as the threads of the bolt hit the steel of the frame. Did you run into any issues? None of the others put up a fight. Any suggestions. The dealer is about an hour away and want $$$ so I was avoiding that for the inconvenience and I'm a diy guy anyway.

[@AdamChandler86]

That's very frustrating...and I feel your pain. Mine is 2 hours away. It was a very tough bolt to break loose. I wish I had some advice as it seems you've tried everything.

[@Scott-iz5nh]

Hey Adam..Just curious if your still happy with the Givi crash bars? There my cheapest option but I would like your opinion. Happy Memorial Day.

[@AdamChandler86]

For our kind of riding, they're fantastic. I just had to remove them for some other work and they're really easy to remove and just keep the brackets on if you're doing work on the bike's side. When the bike lays over, they keep all plastics off the ground except the Barkbusters. But I should disclose that as soon as AltRider releases their crash bars & Skid plate combo, I'm going to be going with that because I love their products and they're the strongest out there. But GIVI is definitely my 2nd choice. Very strong, nice powder coating job and perfect fitment.

[@Scott-iz5nh]

@@AdamChandler86 Well if I don't get a set by then I will buy yours off you. :) Thanks for the info. Ride safe.

[@Scott-iz5nh]

Hey Adam I just ordered my GIVI crash bars. I want to be ahead of the game. How did you pull off the plastic under the BMW logo. Does it just pull off? or are there screws that need to be removed?

[@AdamChandler86]

Hey Scott. there are I think 3 screws inside of the plastic (at radiator behind wheel / forks) and there are a few more screws at the top of the fuel tank at top of triple tree. then there are some light fasteners that you can just pull on and it comes off. I'd just be careful your first time. If I did it again, I'd go slowly and if you meet resistance, look for a rogue T25 screw holding on.

[@Scott-iz5nh]

Adam Chandler Thank you.

[@ericchen4667]

Please notice that even TN5129 won’t fit on 2022 model. After 7 hours struggle, I still can’t fit 3 screws in. 1 in the middle the other two are lower front on each side. Sadly I messed up with painting and one screw hole, so return won’t be an option for me. I do have them installed but in a very unstable way.

[@AdamChandler86]

Givi screwed the pooch but I also sort of blame BMW. they took a very low-selling motorcycle and after 1 year on the market, they modified the exhaust and made every skid plate and crash bar no longer fit. Then companies that only had sold maybe 25 copies of their protection had to revised them to make it fit with the new one and a LOT of companies chose not to modify their stuff. So if you have a 2020 or newer F750, most stuff doesn't fit.

[@ericchen4667]

@@AdamChandler86 I asked seller but he told me others have fitted their 2022 models just fine. So I will try again this week.

[@NinjaFrog91]

Thank you so much for this warning, as I'm waiting for delivery on my new 2022 F750GS and was planning to purchase the TN5129. Does somebody have any other recommendations for crashbars with guaranteed fit on a 2022 model? I'm quite afraid to buy any crashbars at all at the moment because of the 2022 modifications I just learned about...

[@ericchen4667]

@@NinjaFrog91 I fitted it with my 2022 f750gs today. However I can only install one screw in the middle. Other screws are fine. Honest say, I’d like to bought SW bars if I wasn’t bought this one because SW bars doesn’t have connections in the middle. Say again, that middle part is really pain in the ass.

[@ericchen4667]

So I made a mistake. TN5129 DO fit 2022 model. However the installation is quite painful for me.

[@UNKNOWN-ph2fe]

Hello, is it suitable for a 21 year old model or not?

[@AdamChandler86]

You’ll need to reach out to GIVI or a Givi retailer like Twisted Throttle.

[@koran8452]

I like your tools, Wera.

[@AdamChandler86]

Thanks. They're very well built.Zero issues.

[@BenJamin-ou7kd]

Do the top bars fit with the original bmw lower crash bars?

[@AdamChandler86]

Hi Ben, I actually don't know. We never had the OEM BMW Lowers on this bike. It came without them.

[@BenJamin-ou7kd]

@@AdamChandler86 thanks ,I just ordered an 850gs with the stock lower crash bars, which look tiny , but the salesman told me they were designed that way

[@wokeupandsmellthecoffee214]

Great tutorial, loving your vids . 👍

[@AdamChandler86]

Thank you!

[@highshot1382]

Did you use a floor jack while undoing the engine bolts ?

[@AdamChandler86]

I didn't actually. I thought about it but thought if the motor dropped, I'd break out a block of wood and jack it up with the jack but if you do one bolt at a time, it doesn't drop.

[@disaar3679]

Adam, will you upgrade to alt rider or are you happy with these? Asking asking for the wife :) Thanks!

[@AdamChandler86]

hey, good question. For now, we're going to stick to Givi. When AltRider ships their crash bars, we'll take a look. No intention to switch just yet. maybe after a few falls, if these bend we'll swap.

[@disaar3679]

@@AdamChandler86 Totally get it. Thanks for the reply!

[@enriquee.k3329]

Your voice is like Tom hanks 🤪 Nice bike dude 🤗👌🏻

[@AdamChandler86]

No one has ever told me that before but Tom Hanks is pretty boss so I appreciate the compliment!

[@gyomtu]

Hello, what is the loctite product you are using?

[@AdamChandler86]

I was using 242 but am now using 243 which is more resistant to petroleum and other lubricants that could be on the bolt. It's known as "medium strength"

[@geoffw200]

Bought a set for f800r and instructions are appalling not even any torque specs

[@AdamChandler86]

I see that - www.revzilla.com/assets/0002/4795/23349_1112.pdf Yeah, big oversight. I'd send them an email.

[@ajshop4423]

Yep agree. The instructions are worse than appalling.

[@jeffclushman3525]

You should really check out this company. The product is solid and fit finish fantastic. outbackmotortek.com. I would highly recommend them. They cover the entire bike and you are able to strap things to them.

[@AdamChandler86]

Their crash bars aren't currently available.