Making my Supra Sound Like an F1 Race Car

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Adam LZ

Adam LZ

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@2008Mclaren
@2008Mclaren 8 сағат бұрын
STEP THE HEADERS.. Smallest diameter first than increase diameter by half of an inch every 12 inches until you have three different diameters. Will sound like a biblically accurate angel singing.
@justinmanse2849
@justinmanse2849 8 сағат бұрын
isnt that what they did in nascar as well to get that iconic sound
@2008Mclaren
@2008Mclaren 8 сағат бұрын
@justinmanse2849it is yeah! Not entirely sure if they do it anymore but I can’t see why they wouldn’t still run them.
@justinmanse2849
@justinmanse2849 8 сағат бұрын
@@2008Mclaren idk about anymore but I can say they def don’t sound like they used to lol
@2008Mclaren
@2008Mclaren 8 сағат бұрын
@justinmanse2849 I believe it stopped when they went to Gen 6 or Gen 7 “next gens”
@Alpha14850
@Alpha14850 8 сағат бұрын
WE NEED ADAM TO SEE THIS!
@Sugoidoll
@Sugoidoll 8 сағат бұрын
Stepped Headers and collector design!
@N-Collective
@N-Collective 9 сағат бұрын
Yohan the welder, nah yohan the artist.
@qcfakuma
@qcfakuma 8 сағат бұрын
Like his fab work is damn near museum worthy
@joshhalterman5701
@joshhalterman5701 8 сағат бұрын
*Johan
@618NoRRiS024
@618NoRRiS024 7 сағат бұрын
Hes the best! Hard work pays off love to see he takes pride in his work and loves his job
@angeloah
@angeloah 7 сағат бұрын
Couldn’t have said it better, well I could have but I want you to win the cookies.
@Berm_Blaster
@Berm_Blaster 6 сағат бұрын
Welding is art tho.
@StrangeSwag
@StrangeSwag 8 сағат бұрын
for f1 sound you want equal length STEPPED headers!
@angeloah
@angeloah 6 сағат бұрын
Ok nerd, you’re right
@ForcedFoxbody
@ForcedFoxbody 3 сағат бұрын
Was going to comment the same thing, looked into doing 8 into 1 headers and i found the stepped along the way in research
@GidDree
@GidDree Сағат бұрын
​@@angeloahmeanney
@Cas_anova
@Cas_anova Сағат бұрын
Nah, for F1 sounds you gotta make it sound like a vacuumcleaner.
@steviemoto447
@steviemoto447 8 сағат бұрын
Driving backwards and “looking” at the camera is peak comedy, loved that!
@angeloah
@angeloah 6 сағат бұрын
Was just gunna comment on this, well played.
@Danger-Dave
@Danger-Dave 6 сағат бұрын
I watched Adams Ship Station commercial in reverse so I could see him drive around the compound without looking..../
@jonb-h2z
@jonb-h2z 6 сағат бұрын
A old hotrodder trick is paint the headers towards the collector and run it. Where the paint stops burning off is where you need to cut the collector, it's the optimal length.
@lowerd1
@lowerd1 3 сағат бұрын
Didn’t know that, pretty cool to know.
@nikkwaus
@nikkwaus 7 сағат бұрын
i looked up the frequency on the cars and also from your 4 rotor. so what you can see from the frequency/hz is that the short intake come closed by the mazda 787b but i also see in the graphs that your car has 4 clear peaks while mad mike and the 787b only have 3 peaks. these are guidelines the distance microphone environment can make a difference time stamp, cars, frequency (hz) 00:47 mazda 787b 651 and 1307 and 1945hz 00:55 mad mike 540 and 1090 and 1141hz 01:07 old toyota 509 and 768 and 1022 and 1280hz 29:49 new toyota 529 and 791 and 1053 and 1317hz 10:10 dyno run short 627 and 935 and 1243 and 1556hz
@levelrideconcepts
@levelrideconcepts 8 сағат бұрын
Congrats Mike. Great content and looking forward to seeing this build more and eventually back on track.
@angeloah
@angeloah 6 сағат бұрын
Wow
@grant-nagy
@grant-nagy 8 сағат бұрын
@Maisteer has a video called "how F1 Sound is made" he talks about how stepped headers change the sound. I think it's a solid video, he also mentioned equal length headers and equally spaced firing order.
@T3naci0usT
@T3naci0usT 9 сағат бұрын
@divinemedia Mike you are killing it with the edits dude! I really like the editing in this video! Also love the deep dive into the 4 rotor.
@will96317
@will96317 8 сағат бұрын
I'm sure you've probably already asked James Deane, but his setup is THE 787 tone, I was almost positive he'd help you out
@j.d.8593
@j.d.8593 7 сағат бұрын
Did you miss the part where Adam said "they won't share with us their header design unless we bought a complete engine", James has a PPRE engine, and i'm sure that comment from Adam was pointed at them (PPRE, not James) and some others.
@unheimliche9410
@unheimliche9410 6 сағат бұрын
@@j.d.8593 kiwis do it best
@Robvdk69
@Robvdk69 2 сағат бұрын
Ppre has designed a engine and exhaust system that work together . They have lost of money in research and development over decades so it makes sense to protect it. So just coping a design from a different engine builder won't achieve the same results . If he wanted a turn key package that sounds like the 787b he should have brought a package from them
@shady_77
@shady_77 8 сағат бұрын
the secret is stepped headers and equal length to get a high pitch sound from basically any engine
@emi9643
@emi9643 8 сағат бұрын
man i fricken love a nice Johan heavy video. hes such a skilled individual and i enjoy the way he talks so much, he is just so calm and chill its very nice
@angeloah
@angeloah 6 сағат бұрын
Punctuation lost you in turn one.
@emi9643
@emi9643 5 сағат бұрын
@@angeloah imagine replying to a genuine, nice comment by being rude about grammar when it really doesnt matter
@bghbb
@bghbb 5 сағат бұрын
@@emi9643 ignore him bro, guy is being a nob. your punctuation was fine. he's just a butthurt lil twat thats going on all the comments calling people nerds
@eliasbergstrom5300
@eliasbergstrom5300 8 сағат бұрын
Maisteer has a couple videos exploring different techniques to get that high pitched sound. The major part is having expansion chambers (going from smaller tubes into bigger tubes creating a step) in each header tube. Definitely check them out Adam!
@lr7974
@lr7974 8 сағат бұрын
Also i believe the dip in power is caused by a transition of the air going from turbulent to laminar flow at certain air intake speeds. look up bernoullis principle. The variable runners probably also help with this dip.
@angeloah
@angeloah 6 сағат бұрын
Nerd
@jasonpickens9839
@jasonpickens9839 Сағат бұрын
​Nerds are the real heroes behind cool cars
@jaylb9413
@jaylb9413 7 сағат бұрын
Johan is a logistical, artistic, creative, patient, methodical class act of a genius
@mazhul1748
@mazhul1748 8 сағат бұрын
Congrats Mike, its not easy to quit my friend!!
@mylekdesigns
@mylekdesigns 6 сағат бұрын
Stepped headers are one of the largest contributors to the sound, also improves the scavenging as well. If you can do a progressively expanding exhaust on top of this it will add to both the sound and scavenging. Another factor to think about is the material you are using for the exhaust and headers. This has a massive impact on exhaust note. Materials like titanium; while overkill for your application, are one of the main reasons the f1 engines scream the way they do because it resonates at a much higher frequency. If you can find exhaust pipe made with 440C Stainless Steel (or any really hard, high tensile stainless steel), that would be your best most cost effective option when paired with stepped headers, and a progressive header-back pipe. Edit: Give 409 Stainless Steel a shot. There are already off the shelf exhaust tubing made from it!
@HEXAN-SC
@HEXAN-SC 9 сағат бұрын
F1 sounding four rotor Supra?! Hell yea, cannot wait
@Turntablist_Mk2
@Turntablist_Mk2 6 сағат бұрын
A Maisteer stepped header experiment collab on this would've gone down in history as the most unique sounding 4 rotor ever! But would be a video series rather than an episode, as the 2 perfectionists meet lol. Also, there was a guy in NZ that made the slide throttles. Have to try find it again or Logan has experience with that too.
@BV_928
@BV_928 8 сағат бұрын
The “LOW” at 10:31😂
@rxburna
@rxburna 8 сағат бұрын
read this right as he said it😭
@GAlvarado92
@GAlvarado92 8 сағат бұрын
Caught it too!😂😂😂
@Hisdudeness101
@Hisdudeness101 8 сағат бұрын
I watched it twice to make sure i heard it 😂
@Beginningmode
@Beginningmode 7 сағат бұрын
😂 same ​@@rxburna
@SideQuestHomestead
@SideQuestHomestead 8 сағат бұрын
21:58 I just want to see Mikes reaction when he had to edit this clip in.
@briosaurusrex
@briosaurusrex 7 сағат бұрын
27:39 Adam casually taking me back to Engineering Physics II
@murphycurran
@murphycurran 7 сағат бұрын
Absolutely love the technical videos to learn new things and just learning about the amount of engineering that goes in behind the scenes to get the best possible performance!
@duxswag
@duxswag 4 сағат бұрын
passed my pilot license test today ate some steak had a few drinks watching adam uploaded life is great
@Dwobbly
@Dwobbly 5 сағат бұрын
+1 for step headers, n\a engines are a money bag when it comes to performance and sound, but that's why we love them!
@RotaryMotoring
@RotaryMotoring 6 сағат бұрын
Love seeing you delve into mechanical tuning on the 4 rotor and your progress.
@the900bot
@the900bot 2 сағат бұрын
This video is awesome from a gear head perspective, changing the intake length and then seeing the difference on dyno is beautiful work.
@BigTtheItalian
@BigTtheItalian 8 сағат бұрын
It would probably be easier to use an upper and lower intake manifold with an IMRC(intake manifold runner controller). You can have 2 sizes of intake runner and use butterfly valves controlled by the IMRC to swap between them. Ford 2.5L Duratech motors had a really cool system.
@jeffhoffman3429
@jeffhoffman3429 7 сағат бұрын
It's nice of you to share so much knowledge and priceless information with everyone. There's a lot to learn on this channel thanks to this amazing team, thanks.
@coastalparasail
@coastalparasail 3 сағат бұрын
That drifting at the end was 🔥🔥🔥🔥
@Lux_UK
@Lux_UK 7 сағат бұрын
I loved the nerdy side to this vid. The 4 rota sounds amazing and the flames its spinnin is dope af. Always happy to see rotary content !!
@IDv8I
@IDv8I 8 сағат бұрын
I love watching the progression of the 4 rotor. I actually love it when you do progression videos and tweaks to make them better on all the builds.
@Zedgnar
@Zedgnar 3 минут бұрын
from BMX to BIG BOI Stuff and i love every second of it. keep killin it dude.
@bradleyscott623
@bradleyscott623 8 сағат бұрын
I love the engineering side of this so much, just makes you want to constantly keep build an manufacturing badass stuff!!
@kevin.81
@kevin.81 8 сағат бұрын
Good job Mike. Video quality is insane 👌🏼
@angeloah
@angeloah 7 сағат бұрын
You’re right.
@Soccer22224
@Soccer22224 7 сағат бұрын
This video style is awesome
@angeloah
@angeloah 6 сағат бұрын
Correct
@texaspowerman
@texaspowerman 8 сағат бұрын
Keep the Johan videos coming. Just love watching him work through a problem and turn it into metal.
@justinblomquist9318
@justinblomquist9318 3 сағат бұрын
No matter what it sounds like, it’s an Insanely good sound, and a killer build!
@eli2685
@eli2685 5 сағат бұрын
I think this might be the coolest build you've had on your channel, and definitely top 10 on the internet
@itsmikelake
@itsmikelake 4 сағат бұрын
This video is absolutely insane. The quality and the info. 11/10 👌🏻
@maxxrelax88
@maxxrelax88 6 сағат бұрын
the width of the pipe on the headers makes a massive difference to pitch, small diameter start and go stepped all the way to the end it will sound amazing!
@FranciscoSantos-kp61
@FranciscoSantos-kp61 8 сағат бұрын
There was a car racing at the European Hill-Climb Championship that ran a Judd V8 engine and it sounded like an F1 car (Georg Plasa BMW 134 Judd). On recent years there was a Mercedes SLK (Reto Meisel SLK340) running the same engine that's not even close to how Plasa's BMW sounded like. I was told the difference between the cars is simply the exhaust manifold. I don't know what's different, but apparently the high pitch will definitely be achieved on that specific component.
@exige7227
@exige7227 8 сағат бұрын
You made it sound more like an F1 car than the 787B but I am not complaining. Sounds epic!
@DaleBladez
@DaleBladez 6 сағат бұрын
27:22 congratulations Mike!!! Keep it up bro. You don’t want that hanging over your head forever. I’m going to quit soon. Mark my words lol
@Leeoh949
@Leeoh949 3 сағат бұрын
What is that timestamp lol
@jja2000
@jja2000 3 сағат бұрын
​@@Leeoh949Real one is at around 27:10. It's the vape remark.
@Th3Gr3mlinz
@Th3Gr3mlinz 8 сағат бұрын
The 4rotor Supra has to be my favorite of Adams. Such a sick build
@TheChrisallman
@TheChrisallman 8 сағат бұрын
I can't be the only one that's sat here watching this kind of thing just absolutely blown away with how far you guys have come so quickly. Much impressive 🤘🏻
@Danger-Dave
@Danger-Dave 6 сағат бұрын
Would have been fun to use my recording studio frequency spectrum analyzer and special Mic to take some visual "snapshots" of the sounds/frequency's that were made in that 4-rotor header/intake before and after changes!! I watched Adams Ship Station commercial in reverse so I could see him drive around the compound without looking. 😁
@LukeSMK
@LukeSMK Сағат бұрын
STEPPED HEADERS
@lukepowell4559
@lukepowell4559 7 сағат бұрын
I shot media at the Polecat event and hearing the 4 rotor scream through the hills is the most insane thing I've ever heard, and I had just seen the space x rocket launch before the event.
@angeloah
@angeloah 7 сағат бұрын
You need to get out more.
@chrisreardon7185
@chrisreardon7185 8 сағат бұрын
hi adam look into stepping the runners say having half the runner closer to the collector be 2” ID and the other half 2” OD, could do a larger step too but that’s an example there was this guy doing alot of digging over a few years trying to find out how a certain 2 years of f1 had a distinct howl and it came down to the runners being stepped
@eliasbergstrom5300
@eliasbergstrom5300 8 сағат бұрын
Must be Maisteer you're thinking about. His videos are great and Adam shoul definitely take a look at them.
@chrisreardon7185
@chrisreardon7185 8 сағат бұрын
@ that’s it thankyou good sir 🍻
@OfficialBoolT.V
@OfficialBoolT.V 8 сағат бұрын
1:28 size always matters
@angeloah
@angeloah 7 сағат бұрын
Only if you’re tiny.
@tdlaustralia7791
@tdlaustralia7791 4 сағат бұрын
This is a great style of video. Love the detail. It's definitely higher pitched. Not quite the scream of a 787b but on the right path.
@justin3131ify
@justin3131ify Сағат бұрын
Also FYI when trying to achieve equal length, be it intake runner's or headers use pingpong balls/ golf balls for measuring
@technology42069
@technology42069 2 сағат бұрын
Stepped down diameters so that the pulses reflect back against the step is what gives that sound. also a long merge can also improve the sound.
@luccasrodrigues8253
@luccasrodrigues8253 8 сағат бұрын
Stepped headers and equal length, you dont need anything else
@NitroNuggetTV
@NitroNuggetTV 3 сағат бұрын
Seen people achieve the f1 sound with neither tbf. Exhaust acoustics can be a bit of a black art.
@tjramsey7274
@tjramsey7274 7 сағат бұрын
CONGRATS ON NOT VAPING MIKE!!!!!!
@ilirsuhonjic3970
@ilirsuhonjic3970 28 минут бұрын
best automotive chanell on yt,watching for years and still cant get engouhf!
@slezyorla
@slezyorla 3 сағат бұрын
i really liked the old 4 rotor supra sound for that. it sounded insane. like straight from hell insane. demonlike. i will miss it but its your car
@ValuableTrouble
@ValuableTrouble 8 сағат бұрын
Shout out to *Mike* man videos been so good lately 🔥🍿🔥🍿
@Hisdudeness101
@Hisdudeness101 8 сағат бұрын
65° and the Florida boys all in hoodies 😅 it was 9° when. I woke up this morning. Id be sweating in 65
@iak-_-1617
@iak-_-1617 6 сағат бұрын
Rohans job on the fabrication of the headers was impressive. The fit up was perfect and the welds on the aluminum were pristine. I don't think i could have done a better job myself
@cingkole7893
@cingkole7893 8 сағат бұрын
LETS GOOOOO! 4 Rotor vids are my Fav!
@the1satsuma1project
@the1satsuma1project 6 сағат бұрын
I remember seeing a video which spoke about how the angle the runners merge into the collector make a big difference as well as a stepped header. That was on a v12 but I assume same principle applies.
@josephmatuszak3855
@josephmatuszak3855 8 сағат бұрын
Not just runner length, but collector type (4-2-1, 4-1, etc), material and thickness, and fuel and timing can greatly alter the "pitch and tone" of an engine.
@cingkole7893
@cingkole7893 7 сағат бұрын
THANK YOU for uploading in 4K
@piratefade7222
@piratefade7222 15 минут бұрын
love these technical videos!
@CanadianPsycho
@CanadianPsycho 8 сағат бұрын
Camera is looking crispy @divinemedia @14:00 , or maybe Johan just lookin so good these days
@noahanderson1368
@noahanderson1368 8 сағат бұрын
Honestly like the tone with the old headers the lower tone rumble sounds sweet
@frankiebarrett2723
@frankiebarrett2723 21 минут бұрын
Defined and david mazzei are definitely 2 of the most knowledgeable guys on the rotary, don't worry about the other guys who wouldn't help you got 2 of the best
@LeekTwoTimes
@LeekTwoTimes 2 сағат бұрын
Favorite car on the channel 10/10 content Adam
@RadDadisRad
@RadDadisRad 9 сағат бұрын
We all really want to see this thing live and live long.
@GR8ED_Gaming
@GR8ED_Gaming 8 сағат бұрын
Ask some of the kiwi guys!! All the rotaheads here in Nz will 100% help
@gabegabes6419
@gabegabes6419 6 сағат бұрын
It's all over the internet, I mean just google how to make exhaust sound like F1, why re-invent the wheel just look up what to do. Stepped headers, w equal length and straight pipe, is the trick btw that muffler is ruining the potential of the sound this thing could have
@MrNotStock
@MrNotStock 3 сағат бұрын
It's not velocity, its port resonance. Pressure waves peak and push more air into the cylinder just as the valve closes. Example is when you see fuel coming out of the intake or out of a carburetor at full throttle. The pressure waves flowing backwards cause that effect.
@carlooooo0
@carlooooo0 9 сағат бұрын
Can’t lie. I got anxiety watching you drive backwards and talking to us. 😅
@PennywiseM3
@PennywiseM3 2 сағат бұрын
These are the killer LZ videos we have been missing! 👏
@zerri08
@zerri08 7 сағат бұрын
Man adam lz 2025 edits and quality is something else! Thanks mike!!
@can_with_beans
@can_with_beans 4 сағат бұрын
Mike you are putting out MOVIES
@MH-pe8wj
@MH-pe8wj 8 сағат бұрын
So much Knowledge. Love these videos
@JTB595
@JTB595 5 сағат бұрын
I know this isn’t the Ideal 4 rotor sound but as someone who has heard this car in person it has become one of my favourite sounding cars. I feel like it suits the supra’s personality. My vote is leave it as is
@sergio_81
@sergio_81 8 сағат бұрын
The sound is not there yet but the rest, OMG! Awesome
@dajaquidtom7446
@dajaquidtom7446 5 сағат бұрын
Love this style of video. Do more please
@DontDullah
@DontDullah 5 сағат бұрын
Whoever this new camera guy is is doing an amazing job
@joshpittman2939
@joshpittman2939 6 сағат бұрын
29:45 love the crazy backie 👌
@Tweed58
@Tweed58 6 сағат бұрын
Stepped headers. They did it in f1 too. The screaming sound we all loved in f1 was with stepped headers.
@ItstheJunit
@ItstheJunit 4 сағат бұрын
There are a few pictures for reference of their engine floating around with the exhaust and the intake trumpets that look vacuum actuated for length to adjust the sound and airflow. Maybe make an engine test stand for the 4 rotor and make a few designs to try it out.
@ItstheJunit
@ItstheJunit 4 сағат бұрын
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@cujarrett
@cujarrett 5 сағат бұрын
The production is great! Love the four rotor!
@mg2222
@mg2222 24 минут бұрын
Hand down one of my favorite builds on YT. This thing is a beast 🔥
@xaviertiene4325
@xaviertiene4325 8 сағат бұрын
Seeing Yohan fab up a masterpiece of an intake with the e throttle linkage makes me just utterly inspired, I gotta get to work
@kingumedia7477
@kingumedia7477 3 сағат бұрын
29:43 that backie 2ft from Sean was filth
@rickyfast1
@rickyfast1 6 сағат бұрын
within the past few days I saw a video explaining sounds of a 3 rotor and why it sounds high or low. He was looking for the low and found out that on rotories like that they have the middle header come out 2/3s the length or something like that. He said it was the same difference as the 7th threat or as he said a power cord. He said each pipe is a different note and playing with the lengths in the since of how music works can allow for the diffrence in sound. Im prob talking way over my head but this video and that related in my mind.
@jacobmyler7689
@jacobmyler7689 6 сағат бұрын
You really have to give Adam credit for catching his car on fire even though he goes to great lengths to fireproof his cars.
@Dakota_streams22
@Dakota_streams22 5 сағат бұрын
Adam: it could catch back on fire Also Adam: puts a blow torch to it
@ColeSagoonick-q5q
@ColeSagoonick-q5q 7 сағат бұрын
I love the fire out the exhaust
@DYE239
@DYE239 8 сағат бұрын
Ohhh, this video tickles my Mythbuster itch. Great Content!
@connormay5310
@connormay5310 7 сағат бұрын
From what I’ve read to get the high pitch scream, you’ll want to reduce the diameter of the headers. Then step the tube diameter up. So 2” to 2.25”.
@lukeduffy3730
@lukeduffy3730 5 сағат бұрын
On a Na pp 13b rx7 improved production race car I was a part of back in the day the exhaust was made with primarys 2" @ 86" long and a 12" murge collector to 3" to make maximum hp.
@calebbc3
@calebbc3 7 сағат бұрын
You know you have done an awesome job on a car when you can start making changes just to chase a particular exhaust note
@brettalexander5902
@brettalexander5902 Сағат бұрын
Love the in depth vids! Please make one for the E36, I need to nerd out 😂
@user-yt2005
@user-yt2005 35 минут бұрын
David is best example to make F1 sound
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