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Adam Mann

Adam Mann

9 жыл бұрын

*It has come to my attention that the audio has gotten off sync somehow in this video. My apologies, I'm not sure how to fix it.
This is a comparison of Tiger tank variants and the 1:35 scale model kits available to make them from Dragon and Tamiya. This video is meant for those modelers who want to make a Tiger tank but aren't sure about which kits are good, or what version of a Tiger to make.

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@dtmjax5612
@dtmjax5612 7 жыл бұрын
Excellent videos Adam. Really has helped me get through the weeds of all the different kits, etc. and what I should look for and stay away from. I've been a modeler for decades but mostly 1-32 scale aircraft and various scale cars and race cars. Just really getting in to tanks, and it's almost like a new hobby again for me. Thanks to you and a couple other good channels helping find my way. Keep up the good work sir!
@scottbedard3471
@scottbedard3471 4 жыл бұрын
Hopefully you will make a comeback and review the new dragon tigers.
@rcostnlct2135
@rcostnlct2135 8 жыл бұрын
Adam, I appreciate your comments and information! I am several steps below you in terms of detail and accuracy, but I enjoy the research, assembling, and painting of model tanks! My son and I had a laugh from your comments on the first Tamiya Tiger kit. That was my first German tank model, purchased in 1975 [from of all places, K-Mart!] for $7.50. Not only do I still have it, but my son purchased another one for me [minus the motor] from a military model show last November for $10.00! Three-digit prices for any 1/35 scale vehicle is way out of my league, and I'm sure many others as well,especially those like my son just starting into model building and collecting. So thanks for explaining how to get the accuracy with economy!
@chelseachelseaboy
@chelseachelseaboy 6 жыл бұрын
As a complete Tiger novice I found this video an excellent source of info....I never realised DML had put so many Tiger kits out, I really hope you put up an update on the other Tiger kits that have been released since you did this video., thank you so much for this one, superb.
@roberttimofte4646
@roberttimofte4646 7 жыл бұрын
Thx a lot for that! You don't know how much i've looking for something like this! Now i know for sure what kit to buy, didn't know what's in their Dragon Kit's.
@hgbarnes1584
@hgbarnes1584 7 жыл бұрын
Hi, I'm taking in as many reviews in order to buy my first Tiger, well my first tank, and this was very helpful. Thank you Adam.
@88Truc
@88Truc 9 жыл бұрын
Great stuff. Have to say been waiting for a vid like yours. Had my attention all the way through. Keep going strong. Nick
@AdamMann3D
@AdamMann3D 9 жыл бұрын
Nick Ruz Thank you very much. I love Tigers and It took months of trolling around the net to find what I wanted to know. Very glad it's helpful.
@petrolekh
@petrolekh 7 жыл бұрын
Great review, you saved me spending weeks doing research and evaluating all of the kits to build. I want tot build a late model but dreading the Zimmerit.
@richardnevermore8536
@richardnevermore8536 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your videos, great work and they have helped me with my purchases.
@peterhorne6837
@peterhorne6837 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Adam Mann, thank you for your input, much appreciated and I enjoyed your video. I am a Tiger aficionado and freak, thanks for pointing out the various aspects of the Tamiya and Dragon kits. I prefer the Dragon Tigers with moulded on Zimmerit, as it saves time and allows me to focus on other aspects of the model I'm trying to model. Thank you, and keep up the good work!!
@jamesmackenzie1336
@jamesmackenzie1336 5 жыл бұрын
About the best video I’ve seen on Tiger variants - I’ve been building up my ref materials so this vid helps massively. I don’t think you are OTT with your POV. I think they are very valid and pertinent. Awesome work - thanks
@HamilkarBarkasScaleModelling
@HamilkarBarkasScaleModelling 9 жыл бұрын
a very interesting video, i built or have seen most of the kits you showed there and it was nice to hear what you think of them. i actually like the tamiya tiger a lot aswell, maybe it is the kit i built most often. i think at least 4 times and still enjoyable :)
@AdamMann3D
@AdamMann3D 9 жыл бұрын
Hamilkar Barkas I like the Tamiya Tigers fine, as long as you get some PE for the grills. I replace the tracks as well but that's not necessary for everyone. I've built 2 of those, and it certainly was the kit that got me truly in to Tigers.
@esling77
@esling77 8 жыл бұрын
Ty for doing these vids. Im really new to tanks and you have helped me a lot. ty!!
@AdamMann3D
@AdamMann3D 8 жыл бұрын
+zofoblues I'm very glad to help.
@davidwestwater2219
@davidwestwater2219 Жыл бұрын
Such a neat and organized work area
@whatsamattau867
@whatsamattau867 4 жыл бұрын
Cannot explain my fascination with Tiger tanks. Have built 7 different kits. Your dedication to perfection is admirable. Thanks for the information. Phil
@derekbaker3279
@derekbaker3279 3 жыл бұрын
IMHO, the Tiger I has an intimidating appearance. It also represents the most sophisticated & dangerous tank to come from that generation of tank designs around the world. Furthermore, a number of legendary tank commanders graduated up to the Tiger I, so there is a lot of history & impressive stories attached to the Tiger I. Finally, because of the necessary limitations of the armour fielded by the western allies, the Tiger became a symbol for those who believe in the superiority of all German equipment, a myth that has been perpetuated for the last 70+ years.
@berniescheid5286
@berniescheid5286 3 жыл бұрын
I hear you buddy I have 8 tigers all Tamiya and all in the box! 🇨🇦
@geekyrocket9714
@geekyrocket9714 9 жыл бұрын
Well this is just an outstanding video! I think Andy hit the nail on the head with christening it as the "Definitive Guide to buying a Tiger". I will definitely keep this video close when I'm out looking for a Tiger. Really nicely done mate, and I really like how you edited and brought it all together! I have a few Tamiya Tigers in the stash that you covered, but now I wish I had the Dragon kits instead LOL! Cheers mate!
@AdamMann3D
@AdamMann3D 9 жыл бұрын
GeekyRocket Thanks man, I really like Tigers and I think that helped to allow me to quickly learn what the deal was with all of these kits, and I thought I should share what I knew.
@willl655
@willl655 7 жыл бұрын
You need to build all of these it would be pretty impressive to see that those Tiger 1's lined up, great video.
@leighrussell6083
@leighrussell6083 6 жыл бұрын
Really useful presentation, thank you for taking the time
@DMStaxi
@DMStaxi 7 жыл бұрын
I like your video very much. Great and clear information! I just decided to buy Dragon 6383 and 6406. Thanks for the upload Adam!
@88Truc
@88Truc 9 жыл бұрын
Thanks again. I really appreciate what you have done. That is a lot of work but sure lots of it was enjoyable. Seen a lot of good stuff people have been posting but yours really stand out. I build all modern post WWII and WWII. Mostly armor. Will be here supporting your channel. Nick
@AdamMann3D
@AdamMann3D 9 жыл бұрын
Nick Ruz Thanks very much, I put a lot of work in to this one for sure. It's a labor of love though.
@FeralVG
@FeralVG 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing your knowledge & experience. Greatly appreciated.
@DaveyChainZ69
@DaveyChainZ69 Жыл бұрын
Hey Adam. Another great, informative video. 👍
@americanpatriot2422
@americanpatriot2422 2 жыл бұрын
Outstanding video and presentation
@HamilkarBarkasScaleModelling
@HamilkarBarkasScaleModelling 3 жыл бұрын
It's 2020 and I am locked away from my workbench. This helped me a lot Adam :)
@AdamMann3D
@AdamMann3D 3 жыл бұрын
Stay strong Michi.
@gunnarbaumer492
@gunnarbaumer492 9 жыл бұрын
Thanks Adam. I thought this video to be very useful. As well as your video on the Dragon query. Keep it up pal.
@AdamMann3D
@AdamMann3D 9 жыл бұрын
Gunnar Bäumer You're most welcome. That's exactly what I made them for.
@rickpalo1
@rickpalo1 4 жыл бұрын
I never knew the Tiger was such a popular tank, it's crazy to see how much they get for some of them.
@sabrekai8706
@sabrekai8706 Жыл бұрын
I built 35056 way back in 1975, while I was in college. It still survivies today and it is sitting on my shelf now.
@richardtreadway5031
@richardtreadway5031 2 жыл бұрын
Really enjoyable stroll through the Tamiya and Dragon kits. Excellent info. One point of contention though: not all mid production Tigers had zimmerit. A few of the first batch did not carry zimmerit. I believe these went to 506 (who had a mixture of early mid (without zimmerit) and mid with zimmerit. I am still checking to see if 505 had some issued too. Great video though!
@elvis0801
@elvis0801 6 жыл бұрын
Great video just what this newbie needed thanks
@Ekztabar
@Ekztabar Жыл бұрын
Excellent video!
@enescatal1
@enescatal1 6 жыл бұрын
Nice comparision, thanks for video.
@williamfitch1408
@williamfitch1408 6 жыл бұрын
Ace! Cleared up a lot of confusion.
@BazzyPredPop
@BazzyPredPop 3 жыл бұрын
Really useful thanks just what I was looking for.
@georgewelch2366
@georgewelch2366 Жыл бұрын
Adam, love these tank comparison videos. Any chance of doing one for the current StuG III offerings?
@oatis053
@oatis053 4 жыл бұрын
Been modeling since I was a kid and just picked up a Dragon 6406 for 45.00. Will do my own zimmerit with putty. Love the vids man keep it up.
@AdamMann3D
@AdamMann3D 4 жыл бұрын
It's a great kit. I'm not quite skilled enough to do my own Zim. Thanks for the compliment. Work has kept me from videos for some time. But more will come.
@MrGameengineer
@MrGameengineer 8 жыл бұрын
Exactly what I needed, thank you!
@AdamMann3D
@AdamMann3D 8 жыл бұрын
Glad to help
@MilitaryHistoryVisualized
@MilitaryHistoryVisualized 8 жыл бұрын
since you mention that those kits are not "amazing", could you make a list of the most "amazing" kits you know of? (Ideally with a less cheesy title.)
@AdamMann3D
@AdamMann3D 8 жыл бұрын
+Military History I'm not really sure what you mean, but i prefer Dragon to everyone else. So Dragon 6383 which is a late with Zimmerit, 6700 which is a mid production with Zimmerit, 6730 which is a later type early, 6820 which is an early early of Tiger 131 from Bovington tank museum, and 6608 which is an initial from the North African campaign. That's pretty much the best of each version of a Dragon Tiger kit covering all of the primary variants. I'm currently building Rye Field Model's early with full interior, which isn't as good of a fit as Dragon, but is quite detailed and I could recommend if you want to build a full interior kit. The title was meant to mimic the book series which educates people on a subject they want to learn about but have little knowledge of. It was meant to advertise what sort of information I was giving, and it's worked very well.
@MilitaryHistoryVisualized
@MilitaryHistoryVisualized 8 жыл бұрын
+Adam Mann well, you basically said that those kits are good, but not amazing. Considering your vast knowledge and interest in model kits (and the internetZ) desire for Top-Lists, I would love to see you doing a top list of the best kits you know (not limited to the Tiger!).
@AdamMann3D
@AdamMann3D 8 жыл бұрын
+Military History oh, oh. I see. Yeah the internet does love that sort of thing...you know that's not a bad idea. I might drag my friends from KZbin like Hamilkar Barkas in on that. That's a great idea. Sorry i misunderstood you before.
@HamilkarBarkasScaleModelling
@HamilkarBarkasScaleModelling 3 жыл бұрын
@@AdamMann3D how about doing exactly that mate?
@JohnWick-wi9rs
@JohnWick-wi9rs 4 жыл бұрын
Hey there Adam. I have watched this video at least 3 times now. What you went over in this video has helped me narrow down what my first tiger 1 would be. I went with the Tamiya 65216 early. I think that's the right model. The dragons obviously appear to be better. But I'm on a bit of a budget, and could not really justify spending that much on my second model. Anyways, seeing that I will have the early production tiger 1 I was wondering what paint schemes I could apply to it. I didn't want to go with just a solid color, I'd like for there to be camo on it. But I also want it to be historically accurate. Thank you again for providing this video, it was most certainly informational. I look forward to hearing from you.
@junglelands9119
@junglelands9119 8 жыл бұрын
Brilliant video Adam...Thanks
@AdamMann3D
@AdamMann3D 8 жыл бұрын
+Junglelands You're very welcome.
@TheDaddyTinman
@TheDaddyTinman 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the vid as 2016 closes. Still very relevant as I know now what to look for if I do chase a dream of building Michael Wittmann's 007 with the turret attached and not upside down next to the chassis.
@TacticalJackalope
@TacticalJackalope 9 жыл бұрын
O.K. Adam, I just finished watching the video in its entirety. I am very impressed sir very well done. I put this in my favorites box right away for future reference. In my very humble opinion this is The definitive guide on buying Tigers for the uninitiated or simply those who want to know more. The amount of back ground information as well as the detailed explanation of each kit is just fantastic. I would give this video 2 "likes" if that were possible. Well done bud...well done. It would nice to see you do a follow up or companion piece on the AFV Club Tigers at some point. I know Coen is not a big fan but I think they represent an excellent value for the money.
@AdamMann3D
@AdamMann3D 9 жыл бұрын
TacticalJackalope I've already thought about that Andy but I only had the Academy early with interior and no AFV Club or Zvezda. That you for the compliment, I put a decent bit of work in to this, unfortunately I left some stuff out that I wish was in there.
@panzergarage7333
@panzergarage7333 9 жыл бұрын
Adam, great video and very helpful, even to guys that have building for a long time. It just goes to show you can never stop gaining more information...well done. I have a few of those kits and was just about to get another Tamiya but might skip it as I am very impressed with Dragons kits - I have 6730 and Cyber Hobby 6610 which is also a very good kit (Wittmann's last Tiger which I got at a good price). I also have two Academy Kits (13239 Post initial/Early w/internals) and 13314 Late. I find they are not as accurate or good as the Dragon's but for my purposes they will still do OK. You are exactly right about the spend though - you could spend a fortune on upgrades but with Dragons recent tooling I find that broadly it is not really required, except for tracks. Again, well done on the vid
@AdamMann3D
@AdamMann3D 9 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much. I just did a long review of 6730 that i'll upload shortly, and you're correct. With how accruate that kit is it's hard to think of buying anything but Dragon. Thanks for watching man.
@TheBlytonian
@TheBlytonian 9 жыл бұрын
Thanks Adam. Truly helpful roundup. Do you have an opinion of Academy's Tiger kits?
@AdamMann3D
@AdamMann3D 9 жыл бұрын
TheBlytonian I built the early with interior, I didn't like it much at all. Detail is spongy (worse than the Tamiya) and the fit was even bad.
@morgoth62
@morgoth62 8 жыл бұрын
thanks! very informative. I am currently building the Tamiya kit you built your 131 from and I am going to make it a 131 also. Do you have a video on your tamiya 131 build? Or can you tell me what changes you made to fix the tamiya kit? thanks in advance.
@davidkravitz4409
@davidkravitz4409 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for clarifying Dragon's Tiger I kits. What do you recommend or use for tracks, if Dragon Tiger I tracks have guide horns?
@paulmcwilliams1709
@paulmcwilliams1709 7 жыл бұрын
I do love the Tiger tanks and I think Tamiya kits are nice. They are still expensive but not as expensive as Dragon's are. I started building models when I was seven years old, and now I'm 56. Model prices now are sky high and I really don't know how anyone can afford to build anymore, especially when your on a fixed income so I really appreciate this video.
@davidwestwater2219
@davidwestwater2219 Жыл бұрын
The prices are insane they're just insane you're paying $50 for a couple cut out things of plastic it's just nuts
@stoves92
@stoves92 7 жыл бұрын
Good video! Ordered kit 6383 today. Will be my first dragon tiger.
@AdamMann3D
@AdamMann3D 7 жыл бұрын
Very good choice.
@scottmccloud9029
@scottmccloud9029 2 жыл бұрын
Great job on your Tigers. Thank you for the information too. If I may ask, where did you get your work mats at? I can only find relatively small ones. Thank you in advance.
@MasterUxi
@MasterUxi 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the vid. I've been lusting for 6253 for awhile and I'm now convinced 6383 would be a better way to go. The multi piece plastic barrel is probably good enough though would definitely be looking at aftermarket tracks most likely.
@tmfandrade
@tmfandrade 7 жыл бұрын
Hi Adam, You know the correct position for the tiger 1 idler Wheel? Thanks!
@robertsmith8648
@robertsmith8648 7 жыл бұрын
I think I will go with the 6383.Thanks for the info.
@non-prolific135thscalemode7
@non-prolific135thscalemode7 8 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for this video. I think I'm THE Tiger dummy. This is really, really helpful, 'cause I never built a Tiger. I just didn't dare to due to my little knowledge on the subject. Great! I just discovered your channel recently. Liked and subbed! :)
@AdamMann3D
@AdamMann3D 8 жыл бұрын
+Non-Prolific 1/35th Scale Model Builder Thank you. Glad to help and share the knowledge. That's why I put the video up. There have been new kits since this was made, so if you have any questions about a kit or something just ask.
@non-prolific135thscalemode7
@non-prolific135thscalemode7 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot. I really might need your help. :)
@davidharrington1133
@davidharrington1133 10 ай бұрын
Built the Tamiya one and was very happy with tghe result.
@KEM451
@KEM451 8 жыл бұрын
Great video, thanks for making it. Have you seen or heard anything about the Tamiya Late Version Tiger I, kit #25401?
@AdamMann3D
@AdamMann3D 8 жыл бұрын
+KEM451 You're very welcome, I'll have to do an updated version of this as many Tiger kits have come out in the last year. 25401 is a rebox of 35146 with figures.
@yotubemex1
@yotubemex1 6 жыл бұрын
Hi Adam do you know if they make two different 6252 one with pe and metal barrel and one without them ?
@Brodka4Realz
@Brodka4Realz 9 жыл бұрын
Incredible video and perfect timing. I am looking to build another Tiger I so this helped me decide that I will go with Dragon for sure rather than Tamiya. Problem is I want to build a mid production Tiger AND I want to do my own zimmerit so that I can work in lots of battle damage. But Dragon's mid production version comes with zimmerit which I don't want. Is there anything you recommend to help?
@AdamMann3D
@AdamMann3D 9 жыл бұрын
Brodka4Realz I'm not sure what you should do there. That is the only Dragon Mid I know of that isn't stupidly expensive. I think, and I don't have the sprues handy but I think there'd be all the parts in the box for the hull without Zimmerit. The turret though would have ZImmerit. The Cyber-Hobby white box 6660 doesn't have molded on Zim but it's rare so it'd be expensive.
@steviegibson5847
@steviegibson5847 7 жыл бұрын
great video and good advice. I watched this again as I just bought the Tamiya mid Tiger. Its a little dissapointing, detail wise and even parts wise. compared to the RFM Tiger which I bought when it came out, the Tamiya kit is in the stone age. OK, that was a bit harsh. Not quite. But you get my point. The RFM kit was £40 and the Tamiya was £26 but needs pe grills. Anyway, I digress.....great video. Also, fyi on eBay, the US sites are always cheaper than eBay UK or Europe. In other words when you say for example that Tiger blah is $45 which is £30.....yes, mathematically that is correct. BUT in the real world, a $45 Tiger will be a £45 Tiger. I know you are just helping people with a guide, but I travel to tne US once a year and always look out for stuff on eBay US cos it is a lot cheaper. So its just to give YOU an idea of prices overseas.
@ratrod67
@ratrod67 4 жыл бұрын
Very informational! I just bought the Tamiya 1/48 Tiger I Early Production Panzerkampfwagon VI from 2004. You can make it 4 different ways and I was trying to figure out the differences. I bought it for Bolt Action.
@liamgray9805
@liamgray9805 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Adam, yes this is very helpful to me just getting back into the hobby - confusing I have to say, but helpful none the same, i think ill try a Tamiya :), cheers.
@deanellen3583
@deanellen3583 8 жыл бұрын
great video cheers . have got 2 tiger late with zimmerit to build
@kfkf9999
@kfkf9999 8 жыл бұрын
Very usefull video. Thank you.
@Duececoupe
@Duececoupe 8 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video Adam, information overload, almost gave me a headache! lol Which Tiger should I get for Otto Augst 1313 at Kursk? Looking forward to more 'for Dummies' videos! 👌👍👏 Jan
@AdamMann3D
@AdamMann3D 8 жыл бұрын
So Wittmann had 1331 at Kursk, which you could use Cyber Hobby 9142 or Dragon 6730, 6820 to make. Carius wasn't at Kursk, his 2 Tiger I'd were an early numbered 213 (same kits apply) and 217 which is a mid so Dragon 6700, but you'd have to alter it a bit.
@markholmphotography
@markholmphotography Жыл бұрын
Needs to be updated. In 2023, Dragon still charges a ton for their keys yet you’ll never find a metal barrel and the goodies are mostly gone.
@Panzermeister36
@Panzermeister36 3 ай бұрын
Yup
@MichaelGreen-dm2ov
@MichaelGreen-dm2ov 9 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this I learned a lot.
@AdamMann3D
@AdamMann3D 9 жыл бұрын
michael green You're very welcome, glad you leaned something.
@58MrMike
@58MrMike 4 жыл бұрын
Building 6866 Mid but want to get 6406 late. . Have you ever tried making your own Zim? Or is the Trumpeter kit with Zim a better buy?
@kevinchapman4362
@kevinchapman4362 6 жыл бұрын
Hey Adam liked your video looking for a good tiger kit but was lost with all that I seen I'm thinking of the kits with yellow bands on boxes with aftermarket tracks ! ?
@rickhoffman2470
@rickhoffman2470 2 жыл бұрын
The tiger tank from tamaya that you converted to the tiger 131 what type of track do you have early, mirror
@scottp4357
@scottp4357 3 жыл бұрын
you sound a bit like Steve Buscemi. Now i can't unsee Mr Pink making 1/35 Tigers
@wesmander
@wesmander 5 жыл бұрын
I remember Tamiya’s late tiger being released 30 years ago , it was the first new 1/35 kit they had issued for years , I’m building the dragon wittmann kursk tiger , it’s very well made but I can’t help but think they have over complicated some of the parts , I purchased the afv club tracks with hollow guide horns then discovered the 4 raised ejector mask that have to be carefully removed 😡, should have paid the bit extra for the fruil metal tracks
@piotrklyz
@piotrklyz 9 жыл бұрын
Good video bud , usefull info !!! Cheers
@AdamMann3D
@AdamMann3D 9 жыл бұрын
Panzerbuilder Thanks man. I've been a part of a lot of "which Tiger should I buy?" threads so I thought I'd just make a video about it.
@piotrklyz
@piotrklyz 9 жыл бұрын
Adam Mann very good idea , I have two tigers in my stash, full interior one and the initial from dragon...but for sure your video is more than helpfull. Cheers
@58MrMike
@58MrMike 4 жыл бұрын
Good summary . I built the Dragon 6600 and Tamiya Late. What early or mid production kits are reasonably priced these days?
@AdamMann3D
@AdamMann3D 4 жыл бұрын
Reasonably priced? Not many. I would still suggest Dragon to 6700 or the rebox. The Rye Field kit needs Zim added unless you do one of the 35 early mids without Zim, but then you have to add the small pistol port and loaders hatch locking disc.
@hagakure81
@hagakure81 8 жыл бұрын
Thank you for making this vid, its a great way to see the differences (or lack thereof?) in the kits ~ great info. Have you built any of the Academy tigers? In particular i'm thinking of the 2 with interior detail parts included.
@AdamMann3D
@AdamMann3D 8 жыл бұрын
+hagakure81 I did try to build the interior early from Academy. I would stay away from that if I were you. The newer Rye Field kit with interior is better, but does cost more. I'll be making a sequel to this video as newer tiger kits have come out since I made this. If you have a look at my videos on the channel they are all reviewed here though.
@hagakure81
@hagakure81 8 жыл бұрын
Ok, thanks for that. Yes I did see the Rye Field - looks great, but as you say its reflected in the price. Its on my wish list anyway :)
@hagakure81
@hagakure81 8 жыл бұрын
+Adam Mann Could I ask your assistance a bit beyond this video. I draw attention to the sections of your video regarding 6253 (Tiger 3-in-1 with extras), and 6406, which in your words, is the same kit, minus the goodies. I have just received a 6253 kit, however, in the box, it does not have the goodies box, like metal barrel, shackles etc. It does have PE grills, and few other PE bits. It has the [H] sprues with the tracks, but also DS tracks. Also, the decals sheet is not what I see on other pictures it should be, it is smaller, with less options. The box says it is 6253, and even the (in my opinion) reduced decals sheet has 6253 written on it. The PE bits (excluding the grills) come one a sheet MA-6700 (if this has any meaning to you). So, my thinking is, I have gotten 6406, but packaged in a 6253 box. But then in 18:16 in your video you have the instruction sheet side by side of 6253 and 6406. My instruction sheet looks more like 6406 as is shows the DS tracks and MB metal grills on the bottom, but it clearly is printed Kit 6253. Dragon site itself makes no mention of metal barrel etc anymore in this kit (6253)... It's all quite confusing - so my question is; since making this video, did Dragon rebox 6253 with less bits and call it the same thing, or am I being taken for a ride by the seller? I appreciate you taking the time to help with this, if you can.
@AdamMann3D
@AdamMann3D 8 жыл бұрын
+hagakure81 dragon recently reboxed 6253 without the goodies, and you are exactly right it is essentially 6406. They should have renumbered the kit or made mention of the changes. I'm going to make a second video since they did this after I made this video.
@hagakure81
@hagakure81 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the quick reply. Thats a pretty dirty trick in my opinion. I've just gone thru the list and there is a lot missing. And yes, if they were going to rebox, they should have put a different number on it. I've been looking at this the last hour or so, from your video, to reviews showing the parts etc. This is my conclusion: It is essentially kit 6406, as you said the sprues are essentially the same. Missing from it are the magic tracks, instead you get DS tracks. The DS tracks do have the hole in them, not the solid horns. Missing is the goodies box. So no metal barrel, shackles, steel wire, PE fenders and exhaust shrouds. The PE that is included is metal grills, and a small sheet marked MA-6700. Further in your video you do cover kit 6700, I take it they simply threw the PE from 6700 into the "new" 6253. The decal sheet is substantially less than what I have seen for 6253. However I don't have either 6406 or 6700 to tell you if this is what has been thrown in the kit or not. I can confirm that none of the kit pieces have zimmerit included, so its not pieces from 6700. At least for the hull etc. There is no figure with this kit. There are not transparent styrene parts. from misc.kitreview.com/armourreviews/dml6253reviewcs_1.htm I got the following list. I'll mark an [x] next to what IS in the kit, anything else is missing. www.armorama.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=Reviews&file=index&req=showcontent&id=997 has pictures of the sprues etc. to crossreference. A 26 (Tiger I generic) [x] B 40 (Tiger I generic) [x] C 39 (Tiger I Late) [x] D 30 (Tiger I Late) (turret) [x] E 35 (Tiger I Late) [x] F 8 (Tiger I Late) [x] G 31 x 2 (Tiger I Late) [x] g 4 (Command antenna [x] H 54 x 4 (Tiger I Late) [x] J 38 (Tiger I generic) [x] K 12 (Tiger I Late) (hull) [x] L 2 (Command antenna [x] L 12 (Tiger I generic) M 14 (8.8 cm common) MA 149 Etched brass (Tiger I Late) MB 34 Etched brass (German OVM) MC 26 Etched brass (8.8 cm common) MD 38 Etched brass (Tiger I Late) ME 1 Aluminum barrel ME 1 Spring ME 14 Turned brass ME 14 Preformed brass ME 8 White metal ME 1 Prebent wire ME 4 etched brass MF 8 Figure N 2 (Command antenna)s [x] P 39 (Late) [x] Q 12 (8.8 cm common) R 15 (Tiger I Late) S 9 (Tiger I Late) U 2 (Tiger I Late) TA 5 (German OVM) TB 9 (German OVM) [x] TC 4 (German OVM) TD 4 (German OVM) TE 4 (German OVM) Y 180 (MagicTrack) X 1 (Tiger I generic) Figure 15 (Tiger I Late)
@arthurreyes2632
@arthurreyes2632 2 жыл бұрын
Good review. It helped me decide which tiger tanks to buy. I noticed the initial tiger was the only one with 3 outer road wheels, everything after has 4. Is that correct?
@AdamMann3D
@AdamMann3D 2 жыл бұрын
They all have the same amount of wheels until the steel wheels were introduced. They are just commonly removed on the first station.
@TheNordus
@TheNordus 7 жыл бұрын
I bought a Dragon Tiger I Late Production "With goodies" brand new from a hobby store for 55 euros except it didn't come with "Goodies" such as the commander or extra metal bits. Did I get ripped off?
@thiagobartolo
@thiagobartolo 9 жыл бұрын
Hello, great video, is there any dragon Tiger that comes with hollow horn tracks?
@AdamMann3D
@AdamMann3D 9 жыл бұрын
Thiago SB All of the Dragon Tigers that come with DS have hollow guide horns. So 6406, 6600, 9142, 6700, 6383 and 6730 all do. I am not a fan of one piece tracks though. But I've seen them done well.
@arcitejack
@arcitejack 4 жыл бұрын
The comments alone are worth the visit.
@AdamMann3D
@AdamMann3D 4 жыл бұрын
Glad to hear it.
@colonelminus
@colonelminus 7 жыл бұрын
Italerie released a kit lately to rebuilt the WoT Tiger. Interesting thing is that you can actually choose between three versions. 1. The late Tiger E with zimmerit. 2. without zimmerit. 3. there is an early turret as well so therefore you apparently can also go for the Fehrmann Tiger which is kinda cool because the kit is not that expensive by less than 50€.
@daveybyrden3936
@daveybyrden3936 4 жыл бұрын
Fehrmann Tigers didn't have an Early turret on a Late hull. They were original Early Tigers with new wheels only. From what you say, I guess the kit doesn't include all that.
@panasonicsamsung5867
@panasonicsamsung5867 8 жыл бұрын
Great vids Adam. As for the Panthers from Dragon, they are steps further in detail as Tamiya... as I stash the Panthers! The Panther G's SW, Late, Rgt 26 and the Zimmer are great...even with some slight modifications you can back date these easy to June/July...so with these kits you can easy spread a large conflict area. As I use Friul tracks and not used the DS, the DS tracks need some glory...the DS tracks are not that bad...when good packed;) but in detail they are good, the horns are really well detailed and are molded with the correct open horns, the smal profile on the tracks are sharp....however they are not that swinging as a Friul or MK, but as a standard one piece track hey are well detailed and very flexible, with the correct paint work they are very serviceable! Keep going Adam, are you on ML?
@AdamMann3D
@AdamMann3D 8 жыл бұрын
I'm not on Missing lInks yet. I should be. I have a ton of Dragon Panther kits as well. Plan to do a Panther version of this vid too, but I'm not as good with Panthers as Tigers. I prefer workable tracks as well, but Friul is just a bit too pricey for all my builds.
@jkoeberli
@jkoeberli 6 жыл бұрын
did you finish building them all yet? :D
@MJ-nn1ox
@MJ-nn1ox 4 жыл бұрын
Its a pity that you haven't done a chart highlighting the differences. I enjoyed your highlighting the differences but lost my way among the plethora of information you gave. Maybe a top twenty chart of all the manufacturers to see how they really compare.
@IvanTheTerrible911
@IvanTheTerrible911 9 жыл бұрын
Very informative. Im an out of the box modeler but i'd like to dip my hands into the details and technical things especially when i like the subject model once in awhile. Do you review aircraft kits as well? Three thumbs up.
@AdamMann3D
@AdamMann3D 9 жыл бұрын
IvanTheTerrible Thank you very much. I don't review aircraft, I've honestly only ever built a handful. I'm an armor guy.
@IvanTheTerrible911
@IvanTheTerrible911 9 жыл бұрын
No worries. Apologies on that. Your armor reviews are more than enough and i am grateful.
@AdamMann3D
@AdamMann3D 9 жыл бұрын
IvanTheTerrible I only don't build aircraft because I haven't the skill or patience yet. There are plenty I'd like to.
@hazardous401
@hazardous401 9 жыл бұрын
Can you please enable comments on your videos "Ivan"? Pls
@IvanTheTerrible911
@IvanTheTerrible911 9 жыл бұрын
Hi Dan Kov. Pleasant day to you mate. You can reach me at my gmail address at my IvanTheTerrible page.
@oddball3673
@oddball3673 7 жыл бұрын
Ahh, Dragon "Magic wheels" in the orange box Tiger.
@fwsauerteig
@fwsauerteig 8 жыл бұрын
Um, many of the early early or as the channel calls them had smine launchers, and some of the regular earlies had these deleted. Another important difference between the Jan-Feb 43 early early and later earlies is the alteration of the central engine vent with the triangular vent and different placement of the round phillip screw head like pieces.
@AdamMann3D
@AdamMann3D 8 жыл бұрын
+F.W. Sauerteig I'm currently working on a follow up video to this that will all be done in CG and show the differences like that visually. In this though I was more trying to dumb down simply for average people.
@MichaelGreen-dm2ov
@MichaelGreen-dm2ov 9 жыл бұрын
Am I right that DRA-6820 Tiger 131 is a Early and DRA-6608 is DAK-Initial? I ask cause I saw the new Dragon listing on their website.
@AdamMann3D
@AdamMann3D 9 жыл бұрын
michael green basically yes. 131 is an early early, and 6608 is an initial.
@alvinmarcus5780
@alvinmarcus5780 2 жыл бұрын
I know why finding a Tiger is getting harder to do, Cause you got em all. 😂
@berniescheid5286
@berniescheid5286 3 жыл бұрын
Where do you rate the Ryefield Model tigers compared to these?🇨🇦
@chrisbarry4734
@chrisbarry4734 8 жыл бұрын
Nice vid - I'd like your thoughts on the new Rye field Models Tigers 5001, 5003 and 5005. And wonder if the Friul tracks will fit on them?
@AdamMann3D
@AdamMann3D 8 жыл бұрын
If you go the videos I've uploaded I've done a review of all of the Rye Field Tigers.
@chrisbarry4734
@chrisbarry4734 8 жыл бұрын
You haven't mentioned the Friul tracks - will they fit?
@AdamMann3D
@AdamMann3D 8 жыл бұрын
Chris Barry Friul tracks fit every Tiger I've put them on.
@ronstar7027
@ronstar7027 5 жыл бұрын
There was a collector in California who has assembled and restored dozens of real tanks from all wars. They are beautiful. He has an authentic Tiger tank, in mint condition, and I was allowed to get inside of it as a photographer. It was stunning inside. Large blocks of machined alloys and extremely high precision fittings. Just astonishing. The Tiger tank seemed to be the apex of military vehicles I had ever seen. The museum had Russian tanks, Chinese tanks, English, and US tanks, as well as German tanks. There were tiny tanks from WWI, and current tanks from the Russian army. Beautiful. I believe he closed his private museum and possibly sold off some of the tanks. He had a full shop with workers restoring tanks, and had just fished this Tiger from a River in Europe, where it had been submerged for fifty years. He brought it back to mint running condition, including (non functioning) weapons and all accessories. The museum was somewhere near San Jose in the hills. I forget the name of the guy or the location.
@daveybyrden3936
@daveybyrden3936 4 жыл бұрын
That's rather interesting because nobody seems to have heard of that Tiger you describe. I suppose you have no photos?
@oatis053
@oatis053 4 жыл бұрын
That was not a Tiger it was a panther that they fished out of the river I saw the video. The only operational Tiger I is at the Bovington tank museum in England. Here is the video kzbin.info/www/bejne/m5vUZWeZmcqAhZo
@louislaplante7484
@louislaplante7484 7 ай бұрын
Hey would you be able to review the new Takom tigers that will be releasing in January?
@AdamMann3D
@AdamMann3D 7 ай бұрын
I might. Their advisor at Ft. Benning was going to send me some. But then I might have pissed him off on Facebook. We shall see.
@ethan5354
@ethan5354 7 жыл бұрын
Do you know why the DAK Tigers had weirdly bent front and side fenders? Was this a technical aspect or a side effect of the heat warping the metal? Also I've seen pictures of Tiger 1s converted to the Fahrschulwanne Statdgas training variants, to be powered by wood fuel. Were those early productions or mid?
@DrJack6191
@DrJack6191 6 жыл бұрын
Ethan Ton probably not. Heat would not have bent the fenders like that. Looks like a rush job at the factory.
@daveybyrden3936
@daveybyrden3936 4 жыл бұрын
There were no D.A.K. Tigers. By which I mean, the Afrikakorps were never issued any Tigers. The first 17 Tigers sent to Africa had a different set of mudguards to the later ones. This included the bent front mudflaps, but in fact all around the tank the sheet-metal items were different to the eventual "standard" version. Dozens of Tigers went to the Eastern Front with non standard side skirts. Tigers at training schools were usually powered by compressed gas cylinders. Charcoal gas is a different system and has only been seen at the factory, when newly built hulls were getting a test run.
@JoseDanielMassterOzymandiasMx
@JoseDanielMassterOzymandiasMx 9 жыл бұрын
Nice guide!!
@AdamMann3D
@AdamMann3D 9 жыл бұрын
Jose Daniel Masster_Ozymandias Thank You, I hope it helps.
@randyjones4975
@randyjones4975 7 жыл бұрын
Adam, what are your thoughts on Tamiya's late Tiger which depicts Wittman's last Tiger in France? Saw it on Amazon and was curious.
@AdamMann3D
@AdamMann3D 7 жыл бұрын
It is exactly like their other late kit with different decals. SO if you really want to build an accurate 007 the Dragon kit would be best. Either 6253, 6404 or 6383 would have the right parts. Although 6383 doesn't tell you to use them in the instructions they are still there. Mainly with befehlsTigers you have the large command antenna storage tube on the rear, an extra short antenna on the roof and some tool configuration changes. Also with the Tamiya the tracks are solid guide horn which is something I always fix. And all the kits except 6383 would need Zimmerit added. Technically the white boc Wittmann's Last Tiger from Cyberhobby is the best as it has the decals for 007 and the Zimmerit. But it's expensive.
@randyjones4975
@randyjones4975 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Adam. Am a subscriber to your channel and it has been extremely helpful!
@bushranger900
@bushranger900 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks Adam
@kaleu6
@kaleu6 8 жыл бұрын
What aftermarket tracks do you use on your Tiger kits?
@AdamMann3D
@AdamMann3D 8 жыл бұрын
+Erik F. usually AFV Club workable as they're pretty affordable. I have Modelkasten as well which I love the final product of but they're fragile and the build takes a long time. I also have many Friul metal track sets, but I find they're too expensive.
@kaleu6
@kaleu6 8 жыл бұрын
Thank you. I've used the MK tracks and like them, but yeah, they are fragile and do tend to come apart. I like Friul, but the cost is high and drilling out the links does get tedious. I didn't know about the AFV club tracks, but I'll start looking for them now.
@eazyazpie3767
@eazyazpie3767 6 жыл бұрын
Friul metal tracks
@nedfridrich7888
@nedfridrich7888 Жыл бұрын
Hi, I just got a Tamiya 35216. Getting back into this hobby now after 40 years. Want to know what after market tracks you use. I can find metal barrels and grilles but find the track situation confusing. I'm slowly trying to return to this hobby. Started in the Tamiya world with the Panzer ii and Panzer iv. Want to take this Panzer vi to the next level before I tackle Dragon. Love the video and the information provided. Thanks! Any other advice appreciated!
@AdamMann3D
@AdamMann3D Жыл бұрын
I designed a set for Tankraft which is a US company. Panzerwerk Design is in Poland. I like his. And trex is a Chinese company I am an advisor for. All of these would work. Early type.
@nedfridrich7888
@nedfridrich7888 Жыл бұрын
@@AdamMann3D I will look to purchase some of yours. I found your site. Thanks!
@not-kate2639
@not-kate2639 7 жыл бұрын
do you know anything about the late 60's 1/25 tiger 1?
@berniescheid5286
@berniescheid5286 3 жыл бұрын
I have one. Very hard to find. 🇨🇦
@Tony196180
@Tony196180 3 жыл бұрын
Would like to see a review on Border Models 1/35 early Tiger I
@od1452
@od1452 6 ай бұрын
You bring out an important point..... If the kit is your just want one for my collection... which do you build.? .Accuracy and kit quality are big things we modelers worry about. But who likes to build a frustrating kit. ? I have come to the idea that an expensive kit can be worth the extras , but that is not aways true. I try to find reviews to help me decide but they don't always help.. BTW I think (?) Zvezda's Tiger 1 is from one of Dragon's molds. Thanks.
@19explorersport96
@19explorersport96 4 жыл бұрын
Can you post the resources and links in the description please.
@BIGZet
@BIGZet 9 жыл бұрын
So im planing to build a 1943 early Tiger in Kursk painted in Grey and so on. So Tamiya kit No. 35216 is completely fine to go with? Of course I'm gonna add a whole ton of PE's and Friul metal tracks, metal barrel and tow cabbles. My question is. Is everything alright with this tamiya kit? Like geometricly correct correct, like being in scale (hull, turret and wheels)? I'm having problem with finding dragon kits, shops are often out of stock :(
@AdamMann3D
@AdamMann3D 9 жыл бұрын
BIGZet Yes 35216 is fine as far as what's there is correct. There are certain Academy and older Tamiya kits without the asymmetric turret shape, but that one is good. All parts that are there are correct. For a Kursk era Tiger make sure you use the later style feifel filters with one large upper canister, not the two separate cans . Also a Kursk Tiger would be dark yellow with olive green camo not grey. The only grey Tigers (at least commonly known that were photographed) were initials in the Leningrad area in late 42.
@BIGZet
@BIGZet 9 жыл бұрын
Adam Mann Thanks for the tips and advices! :D yeah you're right! When it comes to camo turns out there were no grey Tigers, i suppose it was just a common misconseption to think that tigers in Kursk were grey for some reason. Thanks man! Subscribed
@AdamMann3D
@AdamMann3D 9 жыл бұрын
BIGZet Glad to help. You know It could just be that all the footage being in black and white sticks in our minds. If you think about it we've basically only ever seen real Tiger tanks in grey scale.
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