Elon Musk's Dugout Loop - The Disaster That Almost Happened

[@odiwalker3973]

Well yeah, but you forgot one very important detail: Dugout Loop will have RGB LED Gamer lights.

[@MouseGoat]

IM SOLD! XD

[@SlinkyStoney]

It must be fast!

[@GTFan8899]

The busses in my town also have that...

[@henriquepacheco7473]

RGB GAMER LIGHTS POG WE DID IT REDDIT

[@donflamingo795]

How many GHz does it operates on?

[@QuintonDolan]

You didn’t really call out the dumbest part.. there is no way for the pods to return back to the other station to pick up more passengers while the service is running. It’s a one way trip.

[@hoahuynh2734]

:) The pods stay at the stadium until the end of game then carry the spectators back to the dug-out if we have enough pods and enough parking space underground.

[@alexseguin5245]

@@hoahuynh2734 Which would imply these pods have a giant parking lot of their own underground, which was clearly unaccounted for in the project plans.

[@zilfondel]

The pods also are using an elevator?!

[@cristobalcaro3392]

@@zilfondel yeah, cause it is cool you see

[@CLASHROYALE-mn5wj]

@@alexseguin5245 true

[@WhamBang]

Elon Musk is really great for helping dispel the idea that rich people are rich because they are smarter than everyone else.

[@HeavyMetalGamingHD]

being a billionaire just means one thing and that is that you are absolutely ruthless. you don't care for other people, you almost literally walk over corpses to achieve your goals. There are no legit means to become billionaire

[@2goober4u]

​@@HeavyMetalGamingHD make a product that cost 100,000 dollars, then sell 1000.

[@HeavyMetalGamingHD]

@@2goober4u go back to school and think for a second why your comment is just wrong. basic maths is also not your thing.

[@2goober4u]

@@HeavyMetalGamingHD Joke /jōk/ Noun "A thing someone says to cause amusement or laughter, especially a story or punchline"

[@crispygamer987]

“This isn’t public transportation.” Bingo. You hit the nail on the head. It ISNT public transportation at all. This is publicly funded private transportation for the elite.

[@gibbonplays6111]

Dont we love it that instead of funding more transport for the less fortunate the US goverment throws money at more roads and stupid ideas like this

[@crispygamer987]

@@gibbonplays6111 No.

[@alalvarez7301]

It's almost like all capitalist elites are actually parasites whi haven't worked a day on their life and will only *permanently destroy all good things they come in contact with* But nO gUyse Le Musk is Le fuTuRe! A guy with a suit online told me so!!!

[@Lumposaurus]

It's not even that, it's yet another Silicon valley scam to take a bunch of money from gullible investors.

[@chishek]

They're just trying to give the feeling of money works all the time for up-mid class people. This isn't even real, they're just making more ways to spend money on useless things for f'n useless 10 minutes of enjoy.

[@joehernandez9563]

Shocking that a guy who owns a car business wants to make us even more reliant on cars.

[@nenmaster5218]

I mean, this has 74000 Likes, which is good and all, but my Question is: So what now? Will anyone do the Thing/s that need to be done to help Earth and Humanity grow and get their s-it together or not? ??

[@MyLegsAreKindaLong]

Yea... We already do. Media keeps blow shit up bc they profit from people fear.

[@nenmaster5218]

@@MyLegsAreKindaLong Well, we can all do something. We cna change things in small steps by supporting people like Adam Something. People like Professor dave and Joe Scott. People like Sci Man Dan.

[@MyLegsAreKindaLong]

@@nenmaster5218 I have no idea who da fuq they are.

[@nenmaster5218]

@@MyLegsAreKindaLong I'm just someone on the internet. Doesnt matter who i am? But you did hopefully get my comment's point?

[@Thunderf00t]

Awesome :-) FYI, boring company has now removed ALL projects from its webpage with the exception of Vegas!

[@CepheusTalks]

why am I not surprised to find you down here

[@david-3172]

auhhauauhuhauha what a joke of a man/company!

[@frenchieonthelens3997]

love your channel fancy seeing you here ;D

[@GahMehGrrrr]

@@CepheusTalks More videos proving what a fraud musk is. Obvious really.

[@CepheusTalks]

@@GahMehGrrrr it seems Tesla reported a profit.. not by selling cars, but by selling carbon credits to companies that do a lot of polluting

[@guy6074]

I get why all these “loop” and “pod” ideas are so bad now. They literally combine all the negative attributes of a train with all the negative attributes of a car. While ignoring and not taking advantage of the positives of either system

[@icarus313]

Bingo. That, and they take decades-old ideas for the systems that caused the problems we see today and rebrand them as novel attempts to solve those very same problems. -_-

[@crimzenwoffinden9973]

@@icarus313 we'll circle back to that one lol

[@bradm1507]

@@icarus313 It stems from a type of hubris or perhaps arrogance from thinking that because you're innovative and "disruptive" in one industry or discipline, you are well-equipped to be the same in another industry. It's a facet of the notion that "every problem ultimately is or will be a software problem" or, in other words, "all roads lead to tech." As a result, sometimes these "visionary" ideas suffer from a lack of appreciation for history and an over-simplification of the problem and solution. These folks don't always do the due diligence to understand why a problem exists and what already has been tried or thought of as possible solutions--they just assume the problem exists because the technology to solve it wasn't available previously. Further, these folks tend to view problems through a certain lens, which can lead to over-simplification. For example, they see congested roads and think, "What if we can use the 'wasted space' above and beneath roads to solve this?" And you see the outcome of this thinking: monorails, shipping drones (Amazon), and tunnels (Musk)--all of which have flaws or "solve" one problem a the expense of creating another.

[@magnarion]

There is nothing bad with a loop, a loop is the most efficient way of travel, pods are bad, and cars are bad. But people still want to use cars and don't won't to change means between different means of transport going from point A to B. So if the answer isn't just build more trains, then tunnels for autonomous cars are actually a great idea. We also need to eat less meat, we could just eat fruit and vegetables, but that doesn't make the attempt at making plant like meat bad. The fact is that we need to do something, pointing to the best solution doesn't do anything if people don't choose it

[@bradm1507]

@@magnarion Car's aren't "bad": they just might not be the most optimal transportation method within a dense urban environment. However, if you need to travel beyond the constraints of a fixed path, then cars are optimal--at least more optimal then trains. I don't know if there is one "right" answer or approach. Instead of looking for some kind of silver bullet, maybe the answer is to accept that different situations call for different solutions and that's OK. And the existence of newer technologies does not automatically make existing technologies obsolete or "bad." Maybe part of the answer is questioning the role of "big cities" since these developed before personal transportation options became so accessible. And the pandemic certainly has shown the downsides of crowded urban environments and mass transit systems. Cities also create a cumulative environmental effect: there is a difference between one hundred cars stuck in traffic on narrow lanes between high-rises vs. one hundred cars spread out over miles of comparatively open land.

[@praevasc4299]

This dugout loop is so revolutionary that it is ten times less efficient than a system built in 1896. But at least it has a sleek futuristic design!

[@partypooper8198]

dont forget the RBG and complimentary gamer gunk cleaner.

[@davidtitanium22]

it's actually closer to hundred times less efficient only counting for the passenger number, if you count the energy consumption and rubber tire waste... oof

[@prabhatsourya3883]

@@pleasejustletmebeanonymous6510 That is indeed the point. Adding a subway system underground doesn’t eat into existing road infrastructure, and serves as a cheap and efficient connection to the major station. But this solo pod system just ruined all the “tunnel building” tech part, and makes it look stupid once we look past the glittering lights.

[@ultraali453]

He should only design public transport for video games. Wait, he says the world is a video game simulation.

[@micklenier6152]

@@pleasejustletmebeanonymous6510 well, the thing with "boring company" is that they even suck at boring tunnels. basically the only semi-functional companies are "Tesla" and "SpaceX", and SpaceX is on verge of bankruptcy.

[@РусланПлутонов]

You forgot one very important safety issue: single accident inside the tunnel would put at risk all passegners, as there are no alt. routes to escape from, or reach the spot. The single narrow tunnel will be inaccessible to rescue operation and resume traffic quickly.

[@lucykitsune4619]

Also what if one of these pods caught fire?

[@auxiekitty]

plus only the electrical vehicles can enter without risking giving everyone carbon monoxide poisoning, and the tunnel is too narrow for larger vehicles to enter, so unless a tesla tow truck is invented then one single mishap can bring the entire line to a standstill

[@abbadons8476]

Honestly, maybe we should import some terrorists to fill those death tubes with sarin gas. But that would be hoping people dying would actually be able to knock some sense into these rich "geniuses."

[@iliakatster]

Sounds like the LA hyperloop is one accident away from being permanently shut down

[@HanSolo__]

THIS all could be solved so easily and for so cheap. Use the 25+ passengers helicopters! The costs could be chopped in a half!

[@CepheusTalks]

many of America's problems could be solved if they just invested in an actual public transportation system

[@theq68]

Almost all of America problems would go away with mass transit and public health but that is to socialist for them.

[@garyoakham9723]

@@theq68 welfare recipients get free healthcare. They’re still poor and lazy

[@AmbachtAle]

Or eighteenth century tech: Get a bicycle!

[@USSAnimeNCC-]

@Carl Klinkenborg and their solution is some sci-fi form the Jetsons

[@madsam0320]

@@moofymoo one day, you might find your body cannot cope with common cold virus anymore.

[@themrlace]

"1400 people per event" for a 56,000 stadium, and nobody in this company has for a single second thought "yeah maybe this isn't that good".

[@carkawalakhatulistiwa]

tram can move 30.000 people per hour. metro can move 80.000 people per hour

[@philipsalama8083]

I'm sure plenty have, but who's going to tell the emperor he has no clothes on? Musk is notorious for throwing temper tantrums and firing people on the spot.

[@dyveira]

When I saw that stat I wondered why the hell anyone in their right mind would even consider it.

[@kylecalderon5680]

Most Dodger games have 30,000+ in attendance. Not 1,400 lol

[@kawabatayuri]

@@kylecalderon5680 i think you misunderstood the original comment 1400 people refers to the amount of people the Pods will be transporting per event, the pod will carry 1400 people each game, to a goddamn stadium with 40000± attendants... Thats like less than 5% of the stadium cappacity

[@ian_b]

Most of his ideas seem like things me and my friends would "invent" when we were 10 year olds.

[@14isoldenough]

Thats is the absolute best way to describe elon's ideas.

[@Rocksidion]

I was a fan of Elon at one point in my life. Never realized how low my expectations could go. That's what happens I guess if you stop practicing to analyze things for yourself. Thank you for putting this out and helping me build the tools for improved skepticism.

[@hersirnordic2814]

i wanted to write more or less, the same. nowadays i feel likely elon is a fake.

[@feketefeher]

i live in Budapest and was a Musk fangirl myself. here ten or so years ago a guy, who’s hobby is transportation and everything in connection, got the job to reorganize the public transportation of Budapest as a whole which was quite old school back then. i believe Elon has the brain to do this too, and it could work out well. and this is what i find disturbing that he could do that but he wants something to work for Tesla too. maybe they could develop subway cars and electric buses, street cars too.

[@noonward]

being a big elon musk fan a few years ago, i became a social because i realized we need public programs not private capitalist ventures to help society

[@Danwheeler.]

@@hersirnordic2814 He's very good at getting dumb investors to believe these crazy ideas. It's all about how you sell it. So yeah..in other words.. Fake. People want to believe this shit will work so bad they don't question it one bit.

[@domferrel31]

Was Elon fan o fuckin hate myself now I was too stupid 😂😂

[@JimmyJonJillakers]

Ah, I see the problem here. When you were talking about public transport you mentioned "walking." We don't do that here in the states.

[@yungdomino4718]

Hahaha

[@Nicoriss]

Paradoxically, when you park at the farthest parking lot, I'm sure you walk a lot + you wait to park before the game and wait to get out as everybody is driving at the same time. Insane...

[@RobinTheBot]

@@Nicoriss This! We walk a lot. Just not anywhere worth walking.

[@meghanachauhan9380]

Blessed with riches, cursed with a fat lazy head

[@sirhandsoap3953]

I know people who insist on always driving to everywhere, and regularly drive even a tenth or quarter of a mile to places. I know a lot of these people. I also do this.

[@KateeAngel]

"pod" is a buzzword to pretend that they are inventing new modes of transportation.

[@Pit.Gutzmann]

"Pods" always remind me to StarWars Episode 1.

[@JaminSilbaugh]

Someone’s been eating tide pods

[@breakprismatshell6270]

buses and trains are for dirty proles, pods are for the wealthy 'elite'

[@Jakob_DK]

I suppose the pods avoid red tape from the railroad industry.

[@revimfadli4666]

@@Jakob_DK as if those guys don't need to deal with the automobile + gas industry already

[@jonattanrobles4313]

imagine how terrible an accident would be in that single lane tunnel

[@hervegeorges]

great point, that happened in France, in mont blanc. 39 deaths. in a tunnel it is a death trap. Elon Musk is no genius whatsoever. He is just a con artist who got lucky riding the green wave because even tesla without carbon offset scams and great loans he would have been bancrupt longtime ago. EVs are not the future.

[@ThatOpalGuy]

Watching this video I'm assuming the accident IS the tunnel.

[@gandalf_thegrey]

You dont even need an accident to shut it down for good. Just have some leaking or some faulty electrical wiring (which is something you need to expect with underground adventures) and the entire loop goes down for maintenance. Similar to a roller coaster.

[@effingcool1780]

I can see hundreds being trapped inside that tunnel and being burned to death with no possible escape.

[@ian_b]

@@effingcool1780 It's okay, asphyxiation will be really fast, long before they burn to death.

[@sammyjoaxon]

Here in Perth WA, at our new stadium, we decided to put a train station next door. Works great!

[@Tasmantor]

@off spec lol, what?

[@jamesmichaelcabrera9613]

@off spec f*** your tennis match

[@sammyjoaxon]

@off spec ummm no, it’s a stadium, not tennis arena and the train station is only used for when stadium is being used, so they run before and after. But it’s far enough away (a few hundred metres) that you definitely wouldn’t hear a train and also the stadium 🏟 has large walls. It’s for real sports (ie. Football and Cricket), events and concerts.

[@Matticitt]

@off spec have you been near a modern train track? It's way less noisy than a bunch of cars at speed.

[@Matticitt]

@off spec I'm not sure. I believe a line close to me was replaced 5 years ago, and the trains are around that age also. And while regular trains are really quiet, the light rail cars that run on those tracks are basically silent. I can hear cars driving on a 3-lane road 1km away while the train 50m away is silent.

[@rocket7986]

The problem is, in America, no-one wants to walk that last 500 metres from a bus stop. They'd rather park 500 metres away.

[@user-kc2fu8iw3v]

to the point they even have those silly vehicles they drive on in standing position. no wonder the entire nation is collapsing under its own weight.

[@jogo798]

Thats they are getting f*ckin fat as*

[@wawawuu1514]

No, it's because the ultra-rich leeches on society rule the discourse.

[@user-kc2fu8iw3v]

@@wawawuu1514 grow up and own up to your shortcomings instead of looking for convenient scapegoats like some underage communist larper. the west is rapidly becoming the nations of the lazy, and it's your fault as its citizen, not some "ultra rich leeches".

[@Zalidia]

@@user-kc2fu8iw3v alright, how would I, random citizen, fix this? Genuine question lol, am interested in ur perspective on dis

[@MistahFox]

It's like a tweet I saw once: "Elon Musk re-invented the wheel! Literally!" With a picture of a Tesla with a racing car wheel. Someone responded: "racing cars have had those for fifty years" and then promptly got blocked. It's hubris to assume you have the best most innovative solution to a problem without looking at past or present attempts to inform your own.

[@marocat4749]

And then it blew up.

[@DeathnoteBB]

It’s what companies do constantly, funnily enough. Take something that already exists and claim they invented it

[@RudolfJvVuuren]

Uh isn't it actually a bad thing to say you've reinvented the wheel?

[@rippspeck]

@@RudolfJvVuuren Not to gullible people, it seems.

[@wesleymays1931]

If you're trying to do something like that, and you don't at least _look_ at existing technologies, you're not innovating, you're just wasting everybody's time, including your own.

[@staycgirlsitsgoingdown2]

Perfect! 1400 people capacity per event, for a 56,000 person stadium, for a game that famously can end at completely unpredictable times, using a system that can only go one way at a time. I also find it extremely funny that he thinks that that pod is gonna be able to safely accelerate to 150mph and then safely slow down to come to a stop… within 3.6 miles

[@lagg1e]

Elon is obviously making shit up. The system is also obviously targeted at a rich people, seeing as at best only 3% of people can use it. It could only be more on the nose if it was limited to exactly 1% of the stadium capacity.

[@bruakumfd2845]

feel bad for the engineers in these meetings who just have to smile and nod to keep their jobs

[@MrTridac]

Nope. Not at all.They're opportunists. Elon only hires really good people. Those engineers would get another job in a heartbeat. Yet, they choose to work for an idiot. They know those are stupid ideas, they only do it for the money.

[@mustardofdoom]

I don't.

[@supe4701]

@@mustardofdoom are you employed there as an engineer or any of it counterparts?

[@mustardofdoom]

@@supe4701 No. My sentiment is that engineers are human beings that have choices. Play stupid games - win stupid prizes.

[@arx3516]

@@MrTridac engineers don't have an oath like medics have.

[@adamwilding9520]

GOD what a masterpiece. You hit everything that bugs me about Elon's whole "Cars are a problem? Then how about Cars Premium??? Riiiiight???" blech. America is so fundementally off-axis with all things city planning.

[@genz2380]

Yeah when you have a government as incompetent as ours taking care of the infrastructure this is the type of nonsense that you get

[@mikehunt8375]

Because it's only about 1 thing, MONEY! NO OFFICIAL EVER cared about anyone else's feelings, health, or state of affairs!

[@whoshotashleybabbitt4924]

You want to see poor urban planning? Check out Edmonton AB, Canada. Public transit is basically unusable.

[@manaspradhan8041]

@@mikehunt8375 America is where it is because it had too much money. Post war Europe was barely getting by so most of the cities were built around foot traffic instead of cars. Whereas America had too much money and just spent it on making all cities car dependent, made their zoning laws super strict ending up with suburban deserts which worked fine when everyone was super well off. Now they are just hotspots for miserable and isolated kids(read: school shootings)

[@cdsbradley]

If cars are so bad then why is there a Cars 2?

[@Nivola1953]

They should teach the “Emperor new clothes” tale in high school, under critical thinking skills. These days too many “snake oil salesman” are famous and rich.

[@henryfleischer404]

They should teach more stories in high school in general.

[@Cloud_Beatsaber]

You never know when you will need to oil a snake. . .

[@TheWolli1234]

I almost forgot about it

[@Septimus_ii]

Selling snakeoil has been a key part of the US economy for centuries

[@noahwilliams8996]

I learned about it in elementary school.

[@Skydive20991]

I swear, as European I can't understand why people in the USA are so against about the idea to use and take public transportation...

[@David_Solyom]

They've been brainwashed by companies into thinking that traveling by car is some kind of manifestation of their so called "freedom" they are so proud of. I've heard the arguement that trains are bad, because they tell you where and when you can go. This is something an actual American said to me

[@electric7487]

I'm an American and even as a hardcore car enthusiast it pisses me off to no end as well.

[@igzom819]

Earlier whenever I heard hyperloop mentioned I always thought it would be high-speed tube trains not a damn glorified low capacity highway

[@kirti3839]

Same

[@Oddi0]

I thought until literally tonight that the Boring Company's goal was to make subways. This is incredibly disappointing.

[@lHawkyl]

thats not the hyperloop

[@lHawkyl]

@@thomashajicek2747 Dogout loop ≠ Hyperloop The idea of fast traveling trains in vacuum tunnels is still around, Musk just gave away the patent

[@ShadowLimited310]

I also thought it was going to be the first US bullet train, but alas people settle for anything

[@gizoginjr]

Ah yes, the Dodgers Stadium, which is a baseball stadium. Baseball, as we all know, is famous for always starting and ending on time. Thus, a fixed-schedule service that cannot move any passengers in one direction until all pods in the tunnel have moved to the other end and thus cannot practically allow for any attendees to arrive late or leave early, is perfect here. Don't you just love being trapped at a baseball game because Elon Musk will not allow you to leave?

[@slevinchannel7589]

People really love to HERO-FY the Rich, even though objectively proven and factually in fact: the rich hurt the poor and the current systems makes them hurt us. This aint a Theory: We have the Data. The Data? We have It! C'mon, check channel like 'Second Thought' and 'Some More News' and give them a genuiny chance to explain to you that both 'There is No Problem' AND 'The Problems are so heavy its hopeless!!' is BOTH untrue and wrong and false. We totally have Hope. Give those KZbinrs a FAIR Chance, please.

[@ciello___8307]

also its pretty useless since LA provides a bus shuttle service from union station and the south bay. its quite good.

[@MrSchimpf]

And don't forget that famously many fans really don't get to the stadium in time for game start so if they plan to stick to a stubborn schedule, there's no way most of the fans WILL utilize it because they have to get through LA traffic to get there in the first place and miss the last vehicle inbound from Sunset...and if something breaks down, that's a long ride or walk back to Sunset from the Stadium.

[@beelzemobabbity]

Can’t imagine what would happen if there was some kind of accident at the game that would cause everyone to leave all at once.. the lack of safety measures is baffling

[@kristiaanstolt6931]

Baseball almost always starts on time in LA, cause it doesn’t rain lol, the loop idea is still stupid, but i imagine the loop would start going the other way about halfway through the game

[@TimurKaramov]

I still remember when Elon called the diver "pedophile" when he publicly criticized Elon's mini submarine PR stunt.

[@chimsuaumo]

I remember that too. It says a lot about the guy.

[@shady_silhoutte]

Elon Musk is a man-child with an ego as fragile as glass, and a maturity rate of 12; he literally still thinks 420, and 69 are still funny, the guy is in his early 50s for fuck sake. Of couse that looney would get offended when someone sees right through his bullshit, because that would drive away all of his investors, that's what all he really cares about at the end of the day.

[@Thurzatuhl]

@@shady_silhoutte I agree with you on everything except that 420 and 69 are still funny :) Sorry.

[@Tupsuu]

@@shady_silhoutte hehe 69

[@LucasLima-pi1ux]

@@Thurzatuhl haha funny numbers

[@JCGucci]

If the tunnel is only one way, that means all of the pods have to always be stored at one end of it. Meaning you need a huge parking lot at the stadium AND at the other end of the tunnel, making the parking situation actually worse.

[@PhilmannDark]

Hmmm... Elon is rich because he knows his economics. Selling thousands of cars with a tunnel is a huge bonus for him. Also, why let that huge parking lot around the stadium go to waste if he can use it to put his cars ... err ... pods there ... AND he can then sell an automated vertical parking ...scrap that... car efficiency storage next to the train station! There not being enough room. If that fails, he can bore more tunnles left and right (and down) to store the cars ... err... sorry... pods there. If you're Musk, what's not to like about this plan? What I didn't get: Why an escalator? Put a ramp there and the pods can drive you to your seat (if you pay extra)!

[@bertrandbolin7097]

Yes. Unbelievable stupid idea. But smart if you want to make and sell more pods.

[@DrWhom]

but it's underground!

[@Philemaphobia]

No escape tunnel? Is that legal in the US?

[@Bare_Essence]

"The dugout loop is barely a statistical error" ... lol. Perfect description!

[@MrMamanDon]

In my vicinity ( New Delhi India ) they built a single metro line in parallel to a slim road (which used to cause hours of jams). That single line reduced the travel time from 30 to 14 minutes and halved the traffic on the road too.

[@EricLDunn]

Can you give the metro line? I'll assume the lone isn't a tiny tube running standard cars. Properly built and located rail systems (underground, at grade, or elevated as necessary) can unquestionably ease traffic.

[@MrMamanDon]

@@EricLDunn Magenta Line (Delhi Metro)

[@EricLDunn]

@@MrMamanDon lots of transit development around Delhi. Tiny pod systems have no hope in an area as heavily populated and congested as there.

[@MrMamanDon]

@@EricLDunn Well if you want to decrease population small deathly holes with pods sound good.

[@arnavrawat9864]

@@MrMamanDonmagenta? Du wali line?

[@Crashpad14]

People act like Elon just magically found all the best ways to do things and we totally haven't spent decades figuring it out before hand

[@asmallguy6124]

@Bugsey Magee that doesn't sound so environment-friendly. i thought that was what Elon was aiming for with the Tesla project.

[@nosknut]

U mean like he did with rockets and electric cars?

[@mojotheaverage]

@Bugsey Magee it's almost as though the reason the covid deaths were so low was because something was done about it, like instituting lock downs. People like you are the reason so many are scientifically illiterate, the same logic of anti vaxxers saying shit like measles not being a dangerous disease because medicine is a victim of its own success.

[@TrilosonicResolutions]

@Bugsey Magee There's no point in arguing with people like that, they can't think a single step further than what they're told by media. Most of them think that the only fear we have is the needle, and not the mystery concoction that's injected straight into the bloodstream, lol. You're in the right.

[@hazzyavery7152]

@@TrilosonicResolutions "mystery concoction" like its a 16th century potion designed by a plague doctor and not by the world's greatest and brightest scientists. Lol okay, buddy. Enjoy your iron lung and reduced capacity forever while I enjoy being alive because I wasn't stupid enough to believe anti-vaxx bullshit.

[@indiomoustafa2047]

Its crazy how if you strip away all of the ridiculous aspects of Musks tunnel rail transport ideas you end up with a regular subway. Its almost like subways as a concept are already well thought out and do not have much room for improvment in terms of engineering.

[@pavarottiaardvark3431]

You actually DON'T always want public transport dropping people right outside a stadium, cos it creates a big bottleneck for moving crowds safely. Good stadium design often involves a path or concourse to spread people out slightly.

[@Albergarri788]

Ok you can use all those parking spaces to make the concourse or a park

[@joiceraiana]

​​@@Albergarri788 Imagine how dope would be a amazing public park close to the stadium with good public transportation connecting to the rest of the city? The air would be better, the aesthetic of the place less harsh and people could bring their family to have a day when there's matches, instead of only arriving and leaving the fastest they can to avoid traffic jam. Plus, drinking without a designated driver and be able to sober up breathing fresh air instead of car fumes

[@Philemaphobia]

@@joiceraiana you might like a lot of European stadiums :)

[@isakaldazwulfazizsunus7564]

I was thinking the same

[@iamcurious9541]

You can have gondolas or smaller buses drop people of outside the stadium without much trouble. Just no high capacity public transportation.

[@aleenaprasannan2146]

I do not understand why anybody has never asked Elon, 'what's the protocol when someone has a health emergency in his one way narrow single lane tunnel'?

[@toast3]

And also: what happens when there's a lithium fire from a battery failure inside those tunnels? The fire department has no conceivable access to the tunnels, and even given a tesla mini-fire engine, the other cars can't exactly pull-off to the side to let it pass. Even far more mundane stuff like a flat tire brings the whole system to a stop.

[@courier6960]

It’s more of what happens when any kind of disaster (minor or major) happens in the tunnel. What happens if there is a collapse and people are sealed in (it doesn’t seem like a very oxygen rich environment)? What happens if there is any kind of flooding? What about super hot or cold weather? What happens if there is an earthquake or tornado? How structurally sound is this tunnel? What happens if a breaker goes or the lightbulbs die? They can’t exactly drive in the pure darkness here? What happens if even a single person has to abandon their car or stops driving (a vehicular accident, a sudden allergic reaction or seizure, a blown tire, a battery dies or the engine catches on fire)? What happens when crime occurs here (a mugger robs people stopped at a standstill in the tunnel, someone is murdered or significantly wounded), how are any emergency services meant to get anywhere?

[@nshapiro3199]

Eggxactly

[@nathaniels9141]

@@toast3 You just fill the whole tunnel with water problem solved. Nobody dies from the fire.

[@Bphillips2808]

Hyperdeath

[@l4ndst4nder]

If the Simpsons had balls they would remake the Monorail episode based on one of Elon‘s schemes

[@davicarvalho6699]

can you even stand that show in its current state?

[@trainsandstuff1021]

@@davicarvalho6699 also very unlikely considering how much they kissed elon in the butt just a couple seasons ago

[@ahopefor]

@@davicarvalho6699 How the mighty have falling.

[@davicarvalho6699]

@@ahopefor why are you a distorted Todd Howard

[@alanjamesh.zamorano1677]

@@davicarvalho6699 He's not distorted, it's just a feature

[@ArtypNk]

Elon Musk is like a pothead teenager. "Oh man, oh man, I got this idea for like, a tunnel that will be like, with pods, and it's like, ohhh man, it will be like amazing..." Only difference he has the billions to build prototypes that never really go anywhere.

[@robinlaszlo]

You can't keep the "poors" off the bus, though you can definitely keep them out of your underground pod transport system though!

[@benpreston2163]

exactly. Its about not having to interact with other people

[@gustavchambert7072]

Sure you can, you could just raise the price of a ticket by a few hundred percent, or hell, let's say a few thousand, to really make sure we keep the dregs out. Now that the bus isnt full of unwashed labourers we can make some changes to the interior. Maybe put in some comfortable seats, an entertainment system and maybe a small bar or restaurant. We should also have plenty of space for a staff both with waiters and guards at the entrance (at a comfortable distance from actual passengers, of course) to ensure the security and comfort of the passengers. Now THIS os starting to sound like a system of public transport to be proud of!

[@haraldisdead]

That's all it is.

[@Ranzord95]

"I mean, yeah, we could focus on solving economic inequality, but... who will we hire to work under shitty conditions for a dirty cheap wage?"

[@unnecessaryapostrophe4047]

This, but not with a negative tone. I'd probably be more supportive of public transit if the people who used it most didn't scare me off from being able to use it as well.

[@seanmartinson6249]

I think the one main aspect that you missed in this video is safety, and, I would argue, it's by far the biggest dealbreaker for all of Elongated Muskrat's "loop" ideas. These tunnels are tiny, single-lane roads with no ventilation, no emergency exits, no fire suppression systems, and, on top of all that, you're alone in the pod, no driver or conductor to take charge of the situation if something goes wrong. They're death traps, disasters waiting to happen. No vehicle is completely without risk of a breakdown, and with the loops as designed (and implemented as the vegas loop) there's no recourse besides walking slowly out of the tunnel the way you came in. I wouldn't get in one of those if Elon was paying me!

[@paulustrucenus]

That would make a perfect setting for a horror movie !

[@hodge12009]

Not only that...these cars have lithium batteries. When one crashes it'll probably catch on fire and release highly toxic smoke killing everyone in the tunnel as they try to run away. Kinda like the Kaprun disaster but _futuristic_

[@Oshroth]

There is an action movie from 96 called Daylight which is about a group of motorists getting stuck in a tunnel trying to escape after a truck explodes and seals the exit

[@kaivogel253]

"Elongated Muskrat" had me in tears xD

[@KingOhmni]

@@Oshroth Thanks for reminding of that film, I thought it was great as a kid as the setting was rather believable.

[@RCAVDH]

My view of Musk was nothing fanboy like but i did think of him as "one of the good guys" your perspective has really changed my mind. Thanks for sharing!

[@AnimatedStoriesWorldwide]

it takes little to change your mind.

[@RCAVDH]

@@AnimatedStoriesWorldwide your calling engineering idiocy "little" ?

[@rhukiebeats]

@@AnimatedStoriesWorldwide little? It's project after project of complete futile and inefficient stuff

[@Gamez4eveR]

@@AnimatedStoriesWorldwide Once you start looking into it, it's a downward spiral. Musk ticks a lot of boxes: trust fund baby, incredibly arrogant not reflective of his abilities, incredibly jealous (literally went through the legal bullshit so that everyone thinks he founded Tesla even though he bought it when the company was already like what 2 years old), investor fraud (helloooooo solarcity), wholly ignorant on the matters of general science most would know by the end of middle school. He's a fucking con man

[@Yzeyr]

@@rhukiebeats not that im comparing them, but look at leonardo da vinci. A million projects and most of them is just prototypes and testing completely new things to see if you’re able to make them work

[@Tea_N_Crumpets]

I live in Gothenburg in Sweden. We have a stadium called Ullevi, which has a seating capacity of 43 000. It’s dedicated parking garage has only 650 spaces. Why? Because we have one of the world’s best and most widely used public transport systems, that’s why. No one drives to Ullevi. Even if you live on the edge of the greater city area (which can be as far as 40km north or south), it would cost you about 5 Euro to travel all the way from your nearest bus or train station to the tram stop just outside the stadium, and it doesn’t take much more time than it does with a car.

[@jurgenkoks9142]

add on that, you can actually get drunk with your friends if you want because nobody needs to be the driver.

[@mikesemianczuk]

No it's because Europoors can't afford to buy their own vehicles or pay for gasoline.

[@jurgenkoks9142]

@@mikesemianczuk isnt that with anypoors the case? :D whats to special about the poors here. Atleast they have the option to move around with other means.

[@witherkichian4867]

@@mikesemianczuk as if americans are any richer when they're still paying for their own healthcare and their college debt.

[@VulcanLogic]

I just checked to see if the Metrolink line could get me to SoFi Stadium in Los Angeles from Irvine. Turns out, it can, and there's even a shuttle from one of the train stops to the stadium that's FREE. That would save 80 miles of city driving and about $100 in parking, while a weekend train pass is just $10. Except hold on, no. You can get there on time for the game, but the last train for the day always leaves BEFORE the typical game ends. I'd have to leave at about the end of the 3rd to make the train back.

[@narniadici1976]

Nothing beats trains in terms of capacity, efficiency, speed and ecology.

[@abdmzn]

Preach.

[@stormwaker]

Funnily enough in the UK train ticket prices don't reflect that. It's cheaper to drive a car to the outskirts of London than it is to take a train from where I live. And that is even with one person per car.

[@abdmzn]

@@stormwaker that's because of a certain Margaret thatcher privatizing the rail.

[@UglyKidJoe71]

It's also a pretty pleasant way to travel

[@Tupsuu]

@@stormwaker Here in Finland I could book a ticket for a train that is leaving in ~2,7 hours to Helsinki (720km trip) for 23€

[@rockspoon6528]

I took on the Hyperloop as a research paper in early college, and holy hell did that sour me to Elon. It's just.. so unimaginably stupid, like listening to a moron pretend to be a genius and have everyone around fawning over their "ingenuity" and "brilliance."

[@kensmith5694]

It is more like a highschool writing project.

[@mrlaz9011]

Only a few have the balls to shout: "the emperor is naked!"

[@kensmith5694]

@@mrlaz9011 Many just don't bother. I makes for less competition for our kids.

[@As-tray]

That's really all that Elon Musk is.

[@julesy6922]

yup, thats elon musk

[@StinkPickle4000]

"you want to combat climate change we should stop dragging 2 tone of plastic and metal around with us" THIS!!

[@CTimmerman]

6 people in a petrol car have a lower carbon footprint than 1 in an EV. Rail is much better; sail even more.

[@naveenarora6467]

@@CTimmerman Truth! Innovation required there too still. Rail can't take u everywhere

[@peskypigeonx]

@@naveenarora6467 But buses can fill those gaps

[@randomacc7721]

nah if u wanna combat climate change u should stop burning coal for fucking electricity and instead use nuclear

[@naveenarora6467]

@@randomacc7721 finally!!! Someone with a brain😂😂

[@perryborn2777]

I feel myself becoming more and more interested in trains and public transport everyday I'm from rural Texas, so I've always been reliant on cars, but since I've been living in San Antonio, I've been getting really fucking annoyed at having to drive everywhere. Sure would be nice if I didn't have to pay for gas all the time, or have easy reliable transport to and from public squares, which we don't really have in my part of town, cause we'd rather have parking lots. Fucking hell, I want to make my own town now

[@RAYZOR-Xx]

"The dugout Loop is barely a statistical error" Holy shit the burn!

[@halyoalex8942]

That was my favorite line in the entire video. Absolutely fucking destroyed with facts and logic.

[@hindugoat2302]

the dugout loop is designed to move a small number of wealthy elite, bypassing traffic delays... a VIP transport system. its not supposed to replace mass transit like subways... This guy has the same basic complaint about any design that is not built for the poor or the masses, or is bad for the environment ect. There are luxury services and structures that dont fall into that category, that dosnt make them bad designs. They just dont share your values about including the poor, or protecting the environment.

[@spiderjerusalem8505]

@@hindugoat2302, why should we have those then?

[@murphy7801]

European scathing of Elon is high.

[@mateherbay2289]

"It doesn't even exist" :D

[@lucasschofield8716]

It never ceases to amaze me how many people think Elon is some sort of super-genius.

[@desubysnusnu]

People usually fall for those fake quirky "I'm not like the other girls" archetype. Elon is basically "im not like the other billionaires"

[@AkshayShukla.]

"Hes tha real life Iron Man biroww"

[@famulanrevengeance3044]

Rich = good,smart,attractive etc person to some people

[@inplane9970]

@@AkshayShukla. Canonically, Stark isn't even a good person. He's a condescending jerk towards his teammates and even his protégé. He doesn't even view the other superhumans as teammates. Just overblown obstacles that get in his way at worst, and useful weapons at best. Spiderman is more like a pet project than a protégé, seeing the extent of how far his technology can go with no real concern for Parker. His neglect almost get Parker killed multiple times, despite knowing he's a troubled kid who needs guidance. So says a lot about who these people idolize.

[@makavelismith]

Oh he definitely is.,,, Just not when it comes to this idea.

[@metsrock15]

Love how a century ago we had electric trolley cars then we removed them for busses because corporations

[@alaskanight940]

Because lead and acid aren't an environmental nightmare? Put on a few more leaches it will cure the vapors sir.

[@Bluehoke98]

Coming from Belgrade where we still use trolley buses extensively i can attest to the fact that their main disadvantage is the need to run the electrical cabling which means if u fuvk up the route design or your city's needs change it is an infrastructural and cost nightmare to change where the trolly buses go. We effectively, in Belgrade, still use the line as designed back in the 60s and 70s

[@odinallfarther6038]

Look up taken for a ride a documentary on how public transport was systematically destroyed bought out and dismantled.

[@odinallfarther6038]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/pl6saXp6oNGmhJY taken for a ride

[@henriquepacheco7473]

@@alaskanight940 Lead and acid from hypothetical batteries can be recycled and reutilized. The only real dangers with those would be possible spills during major accidents - and it isn't like fuel doesn't carry its own massive issues in such drastic cases.

[@quackducky4765]

It never amazes me how trains and public transportation is literally a fix to 90% of problems in life

[@dhayes907]

Also watershed zoning

[@Root3264]

It's always "what if we had a public transportation system, but with CARS!!!"

[@moartems5076]

Its like combining the worst properties of both

[@Tate525]

The cars are the necessary component in this scam hahahaha

[@robopope7584]

Actually, it’s “what if we had a public transportation system, but with an inefficient and overly complicated, unnecessarily expensive, and completely ignore a simple and efficient solution that is already proven to work?” (It just so happens that it’s almost always cars/pods in place of trains)

[@manamemajeff6283]

​@@robopope7584 I read your comment and said to myself "Hey that's a very N type to do..." and then i saw your name, so you could understand what i mean right lolllllll (Btw I heard Elon is also an INTJ)

[@ToMeK3001pro]

i like cars

[@Jmcinally94]

It's crazy to me that even America's infrastructure departments can be conned by a charismatic enough snake-oil salesmen. Sure, city planners managed to step in and stop this loop, and you could argue the Vegas one (just like everything else there) was done purely for the sceptical. But the fact that this was even considered goes to show how easily you can just buy respect and influence in the US.

[@millenialmusings8451]

Because lobbying is legal in USA. USA is basically a bunch of very powerful corporations pretending to be a country

[@MrMarinus18]

It's also because of the way funds are allocated for the road. Roads are given funds based on capacity which is why there is always so much hesitation to reduce car capacity in any way. It actually is also the reason that underground tesla taxi thing is there. Because it was build cheaply enough that it was cheaper than the reduction in allocated funds that would come from reducing road capacity.

[@barbara_LL]

actually not surprising at all, he probably just did some serious loobying KKSJSKSNSKSND

[@arunkarthikma3121]

spectacle*

[@aweeeeh5255]

@@arunkarthikma3121 **minor spelling mistake**

[@furatal-samaraie3884]

Hang on, so the pod takes roughly nine minutes to make a round trip, depositing 16 people at their destination... as the system can only handle one pod traveling through at any given time, the 1200 people have to wait in an orderly queue of 1200 people- sorry 1184. So that's 75 trips, at nine minutes each, and to make sure the last pod arrives in time, the first pod has to start its first trip 625 minutes before the game. Please arrive ten and a half hours early so you can catch your pod.

[@TanaisNL]

No, it's even better, they run like 90 "pods" through the tunnel which need to be parked on the other side. Then when the game ends they run those 90 pods back, where they also need to be parked. So now you need to reserve space for 90 pods on each side of the track. Good stuff.

[@milandavid7223]

Hmm... if only I had been given some sort of natural ability to traverse 3 miles in under 10 hours

[@aralornwolf3140]

@@milandavid7223 , I traversed something like 6 or 7 miles in under 2 hours... so. I suppose it's possible.

[@carlost856]

It's even dumber, the pods park at one side until they're scheduled all come back to the other side.

[@carlost856]

@@TanaisNL that's 1440 people you can transport per game night. I am in awe at the wastefulness of this shit.

[@danielx555]

It's so weird to think back to that time when people believe that Elon Musk was possibly intelligent. He really blew that up.

[@fake123]

Missed the worst part about all this. There's already an L.A. Metro Gold Line station ONE KILOMETER away from Dodger Stadium, in Chinatown. It's down a steep hill, but seriously, this "problem" could be solved with one covered escalator.

[@minecrafter023]

Or growing a pair of legs, but that is too much to expect from some Americans ;)

[@imwastedhere]

@@minecrafter023 oh yeah I forget what this things down in my waist are

[@theultimatereductionist7592]

@@minecrafter023 Kilometer is seriously way too long to walk.

[@minecrafter023]

@@theultimatereductionist7592 yeah, I know, it's like 12 minutes (or 0.62 miles) of walking, and that totally on your own, imagine how many bad things could happen to you. You need to be armed with a rifle at least to survive this dangerous adventure down the street or better yet book a short haul flight (the parking lot has to be so big for a reason, doesn't it? Maybe you can bring your plane down, I'd guess it's long enough) to be away from people who only earn half of your income (such peasants, ugh).

[@feonor26]

So I've been wondering about the LA metro. Is it a good and efficient mode of transportation? Don't know if you've been in Europe or if you have any other cities you can compare it with?

[@fmac6441]

In Rio de Janeiro there is a railway to the Christ the Redeemer, called Trem do Corcovado. It is not part of the city's regular transport system, is expensive by Brazilian standards, serves only to climb the Corcovado Hill and is not even the most convenient option for this purpose. Despite all this it transports twice as many people as Musk's solution

[@matthewcoveney4380]

Lmao

[@narthex1681]

Well it seems like a convenient way for tourists to directly access the main attraction of the city, doesn't it ?

[@fmac6441]

@@narthex1681 Not so convenient, as I said it's expensive and it's not interconnected with the common transport system, besides it's famous for the queues. Stadiums are also important tourist attractions and the forecast of a mere 250,000 people using the system proposed by Musk outside the games is very bad.

[@cigan9333]

been there, massive queue lmao

[@melinda2763]

@@cigan9333 Just wait till this dugout thing is built

[@Are_you_eyeballing_me]

"250 thousand people a year" As a Moscow resident I couldn't help but laugh at this shit.

[@Kingsmartie6951]

Who wouldn’t

[@kiraamv5507]

A City Metro In Indian city commutes more people in a Day in a city Like Delhi Metro transports millions in a Day

[@kiraamv5507]

And to get to the extreme ends of city it'll hardly cost you a dollar or two 😂 and you even spend whole day in it, it'll just charge you the amount which is between your boarding and departure point you can travel whole city in metro without existing the station and end back at boarding point and still pay nothing, I Find it Amazing 😂

[@Kingsmartie6951]

America’s public transport is pitiful

[@miguelhidalgo6000]

Absolutely. In my case, the Metro of Madrid transports 677 million passengers each year, so go figure.

[@BorchikYes]

The word: "pod" drives me fucking nuts

[@xoxoj]

At this point. I think I’d pay to watch this guy interview Elon musk 😂😂

[@timberwolfe1645]

I Second the Motion!!!

[@flyingfoamtv2169]

yes

[@TheStarBlack]

Elon can barely make it though his own publicity announcements. He'd be hiding under the table if anyone actually questioned any of these "ideas" to his face.

[@randomrom747]

Elon would be like "Uh..the ..uh..when we do x..erm"

[@AntoniusTyas]

You mean 'Ripped Elongated Muskrat and his tinfoil hat on public events'?

[@chrisalan5610]

I love how Elon is promising he'll be able to build a functional vacuum mag-lev train, but is also failing to create a functional bus system

[@teighandoughty1573]

You'd create heaps better things then him hey

[@NovaTrap1312]

@@teighandoughty1573 Cant see him creating one bullshit loop after the other lmao.

[@carlost856]

@@teighandoughty1573 than him? Definitively. Than the actual smart people he has working on his dumbass projects, no.

[@rippspeck]

The guy is a great salesman. He could sell Springfield a second monorail.

[@programmer1840]

@@carlost856 You'd do a better job at managing the smart people?

[@m0saik2001]

no need for Elon to go to Mars. He should just travel to Europe for once and could learn soooo much

[@temptemp217]

For someone to learn, they need to have some humanity and integrity left, alongside with not having a distorted concept of reality.

[@mikehunt8375]

Nobody is going anywhere! Why people cant see that is beyond me. They do this with everything, fill peoples heads up with fantastical lies, keeps morons busy looking up, while they rape and destroy the ONE place we should be focused on!

[@monochromefilter9295]

Damn, glad i could find another fellow tame impala fan 🥰

[@m0saik2001]

@@monochromefilter9295 wuhuu we love the kevinsss

[@TheExileFox]

Not just him. City planners should also look at alternatives. Like why does the parking lot have to be all a flat open space? Why not build a 3-4 story parking space behind the stadium? This would use so much less space.

[@noahgeerdink5144]

In Amsterdam, they have a few very large multi-story parking garages, right next to the outer highway ring that runs around Amsterdam. Next to each of these parking garages is a very big metro station with trains running every 2 minutes. You park your car, buy a metro ticket and go to the city centre. And best of all, if you buy a 2 euro return ticket, your parking cost are discounted from 10€ per our to 1 euro per day. GENIUS

[@dominik262]

ow far is it from the city center?

[@noahgeerdink5144]

@@dominik262 5 mins by metro

[@Sarahbryson321]

Those are park and ride

[@noahgeerdink5144]

@@subjektivegaming I’ve studied in Rotterdam. I really love the ease of travel in Rotterdam center, the metro combined with the trams & rentable scooters make it very easy to get anywhere within the city. i’d only say the south of the city is a bit under served.

[@Kishanth.J]

I can’t wait to explore the abandoned tunnel after this project fails

[@killman369547]

I wonder if Vegas will eventually replace elon's loop with a metro line after realizing how much they got screwed. They'll have to widen the tunnels though because they don't look big enough to fit a metro train into.... maybe that was on purpose idk.

[@ericamcqueen5607]

@@aiviavi8446 did you even watch the video?

[@aiviavi8446]

@@ericamcqueen5607 yep, I was having some internet issues but was super curious as to the content. Saw it later on and realised what I'd commented xD

[@jeffreychongsathien]

During the Big One...

[@Sycokay]

@@killman369547 It is because Elons "Boring company" maybe can bore a little faster than other tunnel boring companies, but can not in a big enough diameter. What use has a small tube? Ok, let's do "Hyperloop" and "pods". Hyperloop does not work, so pods it is...

[@SQSNSQ]

"And remember: public transportation is one step closer to communism!" - a (may be not so accurate) quote from a political ad within the GTA game.

[@dani1o25]

Elon Musk feels more like a GTA character than his actual GTA parody.

[@johannageisel5390]

That's a huge argument FOR more public transportation!

[@guill90]

”commuteism“ - noun - Advocacy of a classless mass transport system which create liveable, sociable cities and reduce traffic-jams while saving the environment. ;)

[@johannageisel5390]

@@guill90 Great! :D

[@evanr9583]

communism is when bus and train

[@nelsondisalvatore9812]

If sarcasm were a power source we would conect this video to a spaceship and blast to AlfaCentauri in one week.

[@10gamer64]

Sorry, the universe does not allow FTL

[@peterpan4038]

@@10gamer64 With U-N-L-I-M-I-T-E-D power aka sarcasm FTL becomes the easiest thing ever. ;)

[@10gamer64]

@@peterpan4038 But what about time travel? Because if you go faster than light, a negative time will pass for you, which cannot exist, at least I think that is what will happen.

[@peterpan4038]

@@10gamer64 That assumption is based on petty things like math and physics. But nothing in the universe and beyond beats the power of sarcasm.

[@10gamer64]

@@peterpan4038 Yes

[@madisonlilly2859]

I love this take. It's so great to hear someone break down some of the many issues Elon's "public transportation" ideas have. That being said, though, I would like to point out something I haven't seen people discussing in the comments yet. Elon isn't designing anything for the public. Yes, the dugout loop, and other loops like it, aren't capable of carrying anything close to half the capacity of other modes of mass transit. The kicker is that Elon wants these loops to be for the upper echelons of our population to use, therefore they don't actually need to be capable of much at all. Hell, he has the money that if he wants his own personal loop that carries him and some staff, I'm sure he could do it! All this is to say that while yes, I completely and utterly agree that what Elon and the Boring company are promising with these loops is unattainable, the reality is that they were never intended to function to the degree they are pitched. In fact, I feel confident that these loops were pitched to the public to garner public support as a means to help Elon save money on permitting/convince city officials to greenlight the project.

[@partypooper8198]

elon does not have billions to fund a major construction project for himself. he is only considered so rich through the stock he is sitting on which has been dumping in value for months. this is not liquid cash he can spend. If he starts to cash out his stock he will need to make a public statement as to why. this would cause a massive sell of from investors and the combined selling of musk and investors would crash it completely. people are already learning about all the musk hype and getting out of that over priced asset.

[@trustytrest]

Even if its only designed as a vanity project, it helps if theres a lot of public outcry against how wasteful it is.

[@DiscoDashco]

@@partypooper8198 it’s the most tiresome template of an answer for him; his wealth is caught up in his stock, so he’s not worth what people think he is. That’s fine, so he uses the resources of the companies he owns to do what he wants to instead. You’ve just explained what incorporation does to offer leverage without an risk to personal assets. So as long as his companies have value, he has liquidity at his disposal. It’s not some weird situation that the nature of his businesses have gotten him into - it’s not exactly how many other robber barrens before him have deliberately integrated their wealth to avoid double jeopardy if organizations go insolvent. His humanist visions for the future is just the cover story to emotionally ensnare monied interests as investors to offset his own costs, and local governments who otherwise default as gatekeepers to his goals to make money. He convinces them this or that is necessary, and will somehow be the “bold innovation” that will usher in a solution to a common problem. But as all the videos on this channel go, Adam points out in accurate detail that most of his ideas are nothing but schemes to sell more Teslas. He is a money driven salesman above all.

[@reiteration6273]

"If you're going to start combating climate change effectively, then we should stop dragging two tonnes of metal and plastic with us wherever we go." I love this quote. It's just a perfect summary of all your transport-related videos.

[@nup5]

FACTS. It's absurd that I need a car for most travel outside of my neighborhood... And cars ain't easy to move! People take the power of engines and gasoline for granted.

[@CraigMitchell44]

Exactly. Sell that heavy and big SUV and get a Miata, it barely weighs a ton! Too heavy? Why not a Suzuki Cappuccino? Not enough seats? Why not get a KP70 Toyota Starlet or a Daihatsu Cuore?

[@nup5]

@@CraigMitchell44 not a terrible idea, honestly. In fact, I was considering buying a motorcycle for those trips where I only need to take myself to and from someplace. Would save on fuel, and bracing the weather is something I wouldn't mind doing most of the time

[@Fivizzz]

@@nup5 Motorbikes are actually terribly fuel inefficient in relation to their weight advantage. I ride a 650cc daily in the city and average about 6l/100km (~40mpg) (It does under 4.5 (>60mpg) on longer rides outside the city, but for everyday commute, it's basically always running cold since by the time it gets up to operating temp, I've reached my destination. So it guzzles fuel like there's no tomorrow). When I needed to move stuff around, I rented a little petrol Fiat 500 for a couple days, averaged roundabout the same fuel efficiency for over quadruple the weight! A lot of the tech that went into making cars more fuel efficient over the years was given a wide berth by the motorcycle industry, partly because of the terribly conservative mind of the customer base, but mostly because all that tech usually implies additional weight which has a lot more impact on the handling of a motorbike than on that of a car. EFI and water-cooling are barely becoming a standard as we speak. Then there's obviously the terrible aerodynamic drag of a person sitting on a 2 wheeler compared to a streamlined car body, although that's not as relevant for slow city driving. And, much as the appalling "urban SUV" trend for cars, there's the fact that thanks to advertising too many bikers are now convinced that they absolutely need a 1000cc+ bike to ride around the city. Unless you ride a 300cc or smaller, you wouldn't save nearly as much fuel as you would expect.

[@nup5]

@@Fivizzz I was unaware of this information. Thank you! I will be doing a plethora of research before I buy anything anyway. Now I know to be extra thorough! Power may not be too much of a concern for me. My daily driver maxes out at 100 HP due to its age. No turbo 4 cylinder. But then again... That's HP, not CC. I will compare power ranges when the time comes

[@DoomsdayR3sistance]

Having the Dugout have rails would be a huge disaster, let's remember what happened to the Hyperloop Tunnel just outside of Space X head quarters.... their engineers couldn't even figure out that steel rusts when exposed to water and filled the entire thing with concrete creating a huge moist environment down the entire tunnel and literally rusting the entire length. This is the level of "Genius" one is dealing with when one looks at companies run or owned by Elon Musk.

[@zyibesixdouze4863]

Revolutionary: Concrete expels oxygen when drying

[@bongosmcdongos4190]

Waot did that really happen? Yk ow must defenders tell me he hired smart people even if he himself isn't. Kunda blows tgat apart.

[@DoomsdayR3sistance]

​@@bongosmcdongos4190 having a hard time understanding that response. But yes, Musk's engineers that built the test track rusted the entire thing. It doesn't mean there aren't smart people that work for Musk, sometimes companies just promote really stupid managers that won't listen to their employees concerns. That all said, I suspect most smart people would not work for Musk if they had alternative choices, he is notoriously a terrible boss.

[@budgetcommander4849]

@@DoomsdayR3sistance You can have the most accurate, well-built rifle in the world, one which ignores wind and drops an inch when fired across the ocean: It still doesn't mean shit if you don't know how to aim.

[@budgetcommander4849]

@@DoomsdayR3sistance I meant that in regards to talented people at Tesla. Sure, *they* pull their weight. It's just that the person guiding them is huffing the overpowering fumes of his own ego.

[@Jackson-vr1vf]

My biggest problem with underground car tunnels is car crashes. If there's an accident, how the hell are the police and ambulances gonna get to them? If a car fucking explodes, its not like you can just run away from the explosion, there's pretty much no where to go.

[@frozenser.2356]

Finally, someone thinks about safety for everyone and everything.

[@NinjaLLR]

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mont_Blanc_tunnel_fire

[@Aliquis.frigus]

Tbh, under my home city is a whole lot of tunnels, the city can be crossed east to west without seeing daylight for 3-5 miles. Road tunnels are safe if they're build smartly.

[@Hachiae]

im confused, does having a car "explode" around you in a tunnel make the tunnel into a cage? just run down the tunnel... the accident question just look at tunnels like The Chesapeake Bay Bridge Tunnel

[@TheImperfectGuy]

@@Aliquis.frigus Not boring company tunnels if you've seen even video of a hyperloop being driven through

[@Moarty95]

In The Netherlands we have something called a 'bicycle', we use em to get around

[@gibbonplays6111]

If only the US would invest in bicycle infrastructure and more affordable public transport it would be a much better country, i am so glad i live in a competent country

[@davidgustafik7968]

Past me: This can't get any dumber. Elon: Challenge accepted! edit: Also, the Vegas Loop vs the M1 is simply an unfair comparison. The Vegas Loop has RGB lights!

[@TwistedFireX]

Ngl I always thought Elon was somewhat intelligent until I saw this video.

[@blista2]

But our M3 line had tunnel fires before the actual renovation.

[@jeffbenton6183]

@@TwistedFireX I don't know how the same mind behind SpaceX could have possibly thought that this was okay.

[@xxkildarxx]

@@jeffbenton6183 Because the original vision was probably as grand as space X. Geographic challenges, deadlines, money, and existing technology are what probably gave us this.

[@at_oussama]

Americans probably: "public transport is very socialism, no no no"

[@grandmabea6471]

The shitty thing is, a lot of Americans are very pro public transit. But wealthier Americans, predictably, don't give a shit! And it turns out the USA is a failing democracy where only the wealthy can really hope to implement political agendas, so the American people get screwed, the rich get richer, and meanwhile the Republic rots from the inside out.

[@weirdlemonthing3714]

Muh freedom

[@desubysnusnu]

I swear most Americans don't even know what socialism even means.

[@maknavickas]

No it’s because public transportation is for dirty poor people so I will not do it. It’s the same reason American don’t go to libraries or hang out at public parks, because you can’t legally kick the undesirables out of public places so therefore anyone who has the means to escape being around them does.

[@RobRIPDG]

Prague's population is 1.3 million, California is 40million. Comparing the transport isn't even remotely comparable. That stadium doesn't even come close to hosting that many people, it's a complete flop they want to repurpose it. California is a left wing province. They would 100% be up for some sweet over spending socialism.

[@Irfanhill]

I love three things about your videos: 1) How you solve most things with trains or almost trains 2) How you prove Elmon Musk is such a scammer and many US politicians and journalists are idiots 3) Your war against cars. I hope you win. As a French man leaving near Paris I didn't buy a car despite having my driving licence for 12 years, I very rarely use it, can spend weeks of vacations in some places (not everywhere it's true) in France with no car. Using public transport that carry between 600 000 and 1 200 000 (1.2 million. Yes. RER A) everyday on the regular, the "250 000 passengers per year" made me laugh really good.

[@user-kc2fu8iw3v]

as long as there's oil to be mined, cars will not be stopped. only once the earth runs out of oil and switches over to nuclear (fission or fusion, whichever produces more energy. they now have ways to purify spent nuclear fuel, drastically reducing the nuclear waste and this process is still ongoing, hopefully one day it will achieve total or near total elimination of waste) will the pollution be reduced. that, and extremely overpopulated nations like china and india switching over to them, which won't happen until the currently most profitable venture dries out.

[@LuizSMatos-dr9tz]

The USA is NOT Europe. you guys always seems to forget that.. Most people in Europe do not drive the same distances in a month that an average american drives in one single day. That's why that peice of crap european car, the FIAT is so popular in Europe but was a big fiasco in US. It is too weak and unfit for the hard work. No public transportation will handle the specifics of US. It would have to be huge and reach everywhere. Unpratical and a way too expensive. Never US will be able to get rid off cars. The best solution is eletric cars or something like that. jesus fuck.. specific circunstances and their solutions go together. What is good for Europe may not be good for US and the other way around. You people are so genious you should know that by now.

[@user-kc2fu8iw3v]

@@LuizSMatos-dr9tz trains are public transport too. buses and trams are for city only traffic, they never really go outside of the city area, at most to the surrounding suburb and outskirts, while trains are used for inter-city / inter-state travel.

[@wenbolu6157]

@@LuizSMatos-dr9tz youd think that while writing all of that you can understand that europeans dont drive as much BECAUSE of their public transport but apparently thats just lost to you. bet you think that because covid numbers are low we dont need restrictions when its the restriction that makes the numbers low. also the best high end cars in the world are european, and plenty of european brands like vw are simultaneously affordable too. that just sounds like lazy 'research' yall americans think youre so special. railway spanning states have been a thing since the 20th century. the usa is not special, you have a over 50 year technology lead to replicate the same concept as what china have done decades ago with comparable land size. the entire continent of Europe has a more synced railway between straight up countries than the usa has between states. completely mind boggling

[@takeshikovach5165]

@@LuizSMatos-dr9tz tell me, pointing out difference doesn't matter. Point me out difference that actually matters. Like what can massive roads do in a city that public transport can't do better. And what is this comparison, we are talking about transport in the city, ie "urban planning", not interstate highways. Learn to state "Relevant Differences ", because your point doesn't make any sense. LA show higher population density than many European countries. Then why the hell public transport won't work there? Why?

[@ridgesail]

Just a minor note, when they write "between games and events", I think they meant the combined number of riders to games and events, not riders in the other times when there aren't games and events

[@DrWhom]

possibly

[@mat_max]

So The boring company is literally just another money laundering construction company of gigantic contract budgets with minimal actual money used on the project but with RGB leds

[@ericwlezniak2081]

Also, a single glitch crashing one or more of the pods would a) close the entire system for an unknown amount of time, and b) strand any passengers underground in potentially hazardous conditions.

[@DeathnoteBB]

Not even potential, straight up hazardous conditions. I’ve seen no air ventilation or exits.

[@expletivedeleted7853]

NO Its much worse. When you breach a vaccume a shockwave would travel the entire length at right about the speed of sound destroying everything in its path. It would vaporize every single person in a pod the entire way back! This is just fucking stupid and is meant to excite fanboi losers with flashy cgi graphics and distract from the future we need with a fake future that isn't real.

[@EEVblog]

LOL Well debunked!

[@revimfadli4666]

Wait until you see reusable rockets debunked lol

[@hetaeramancer]

ELON MUSK IS A JOKE.

[@revimfadli4666]

@@hetaeramancer the joke---------> Your head

[@allangibson2408]

The “Dugout Loop” is larger in diameter than the London Underground standard gauge deep level metro tunnels. Boring Company tunnels are 12’ diameter. London Underground deep level tunnels are 11’6” diameter. So simple fix for the Las Vegas tunnels would be to buy some second hand trains from London and lay some track in the existing tunnels.

[@rajnadar6555]

I wish the tunnels were a bit larger so that when it fails spectacularly, the city could take it over and run buses/trains on it.

[@allangibson2408]

@@rajnadar6555 That was my point - the standard gauge London underground trains will fit with room to spare..

[@Sarahbryson321]

They can have ‘73 stock

[@Bezerker1181]

@@allangibson2408 Ya it would fit but its a tunnel made for cars / pods. Those trains weigh about 200 tons and go max 50 mph. Not that i think that the boring tunnels are a good idea but it usually takes at least 10+ years to even build a simpel strait metro/train tunnel due to the shear weight, while those boring tunnels takes a few weeks to months. Its funny to compare these things for sure but not even realistic in the slightest.

[@allangibson2408]

@Dark One The London underground tunnels are just cast iron rings. If anything the Boring Company tunnels would be more robust as they are designed to support a higher ground load. The weight of the vehicles is largely irrelevant compared to the weight of the dirt around the tunnels.

[@chadakoin1]

And meanwhile of course, even in a best case scenario, 95% of stadium attendees will still have to find an alternate way to get to the stadium.

[@PhantasmalBlast]

That's why I'm proposing a system of trebuchets 2-300 meters outside the stadium to launch people in where they will be caught and lowered safely to their seats by a team of expert trapeze artists and tightrope walkers. Unfortunately each trebuchet can only fling one person at a time, and the protective helmet and kneepads given to passengers will need to be driven back out to the launch site via golf cart so that they can be reused. I'm estimating a capacity of about 120 passengers per event. I'm asking for 1.2 billion. The Acrobats' Union is really digging for gold on this one.

[@temptemp217]

As if people like Elon even consider as huge amount as 5% is, to be people and not "barbarians that are poor because stupid". I refuse to believe that someone without a distorted perception of reality would come up with those "loops" and "pods".

[@Quetzietse]

That's a feature, not a bug. Working as intended.

[@s4098429]

Not only is there just a single tunnel, but there is a single escalator.

[@Foersom_]

That pod / mini-bus elevator will be a major bottleneck as well.

[@alec0062]

The only way is DOWN!!!!

[@twig1777]

I would absolutely love to live in a city with no cars, where you could travel everywhere with a bicycle.

[@thatbritishguy7076]

I'm not exactly sure about this but I think Amsterdam are closing a lot of driving lanes in favour of bike lanes

[@shubhamupadhyay6503]

I would also love to live in a city where we can get anywhere by cycle. But there are many problems to this approach - 1. I live in second largest metropolitan area in the world (Delhi, India) and the urban area stretches for about 60km. In order to travel such a large distance, a strong public transportation infrastructure is needed (Local trains, buses etc). 2. Cities are also the economic centers of a country, hence it is inevitable that even if all the residents travel by bicycles only, we can't completely eliminate vehicles, as they are needed in order to resupply the shops and move heavy luggage.

[@Khrayfish]

Venice doesn't have cars, but it's hardly the size of a conventional city. Nice place though, very cool.

[@henkjanssen1252]

Move to Holland indeed. Plenty of videos on biking here, youtube channel called Not Just Bikes or just search biking in Utrecht, Groningen, Amsterdam...

[@Aditya-gb2bw]

@@henkjanssen1252 top tier channel fr fr

[@ayaanahmed7455]

Bro, I rarely find people who open my eyes. Your videos are so realistic, looking beyond the flashy things with the added humour. I wonder how come you don't get existential crisis seeing through today's fucked society. Thanks brother.

[@TheFireHawkDelta]

12:03 holy shit that image would be a deathtrap if actually built. If any accident occurred in a tiny, single lane tunnel, it would be a disaster far worse than a typical traffic jam. Only trains could traverse those tunnels with any degree of safety, and they would still would be far less safe than a normal regulated metro tunnel.

[@piranhaplantX]

Yeah, it baffles me that no one in their focus groups brought up the issues with this. Even a subway, which to me seemed cramped, is downright spacious in comparison. With plenty of maintenance and emergency doors along each route, and enough room for people to actually exit the train cars if the train was damaged or disabled.

[@allangibson2408]

The Boring Company tunnels are slightly larger diameter than the London Underground standard gauge railway tunnels…

[@zeya888g]

@@allangibson2408 if that's the case then isn't it just a massive waste of space building such large tunnels for single user car pods?

[@EdSchroedinger]

so, it's actually a drawn-out, bring-your-own-car, underground rollercoaster gridlock adventure ride... kudos! Elon really knows a bit about entertainment...

[@fonkenful]

@@mwwhited but if you include the hyperloop’s vacuum, the likelihood of calamitous firestorms would be eliminated oh wait, the damned laws of physics will fuck you up every time

[@Ronin.97]

no it's literally not that did you watch the video?

[@Ronin.97]

@@mwwhited teslas do just saying

[@theultimatereductionist7592]

@@mwwhited With RGB LED lights!

[@seculi7757]

I think it`s a rich mans secret underground lair access tunnel. Deliberate low amount of traffic, you can drive any car in it, project doomed to fail so rich/politics guys have it all to themselves. It looks more like a "service" road than anything else.

[@provence73]

my bold guess is that Tesla realised that fully autonomous driving in the real world is more complex than anticipated and had to come up with an idea how to sell their cars and technology somehow. and driving in a closed environment like a tunnel poses less problems due to less complexity

[@deadlyair]

Let's be honest, this is just an exclusive solution for rich people to avoid actual public transportation

[@TalesOfWar]

And they still can't work out the automation aspect.

[@dv9239]

Well... Tram routes are still controlled environments

[@Drake64958]

@@luxinvictus9018 there is no nicer pricier train in the Netherlands. We do have first and second class tickets in most trains though.

[@Gyyges]

@@luxinvictus9018 There must be some prestige angle here, too. Pricing will either reflect the design's inefficiency to make profit, or operate as a charity case. This makes me think that either the tickets will be ultimately aimed at the ultra-wealthy or the Boring Company is tapping into some lucrative subsidies from some quarter. The whole thing seems targeted toward an experience rather than a service. Its almost a ride at Disney World.

[@EcoAku]

I love the constructive sarcasm, and the socioeconomic and environmental concern! Your content is utterly compelling.

[@JJDoggett]

I like how this gets more stupid the more the video goes into it, to the extent that it is basically a very expensive and inefficient replication of a bus lane. Why the hell would you dig up a few miles of central LA to make a tunnel for small automated cars to drive only 5% of fans on a game day and not be used at any other time. In a world where the Dodger shuttle exists. Madness.

[@Tubeytime]

Maybe it's a prototype for an improved version down the road? Option paralysis, shareholders and deadlines are also factors that affect new development projects on this scale. PR could be what's keeping them from being honest about it. It doesn't help anyone to jump to conclusions and everyone thinks something is crazy until it works. The only question is are you hoping he fails?

[@giveme30dollars]

@@Tubeytime Yes. I do hope a wasteful fire hazard that sidesteps any and all regulations on transport is shut down as soon as a broken battery kills everyone in the underground tube. If you need to lie for PR to start a project then maybe the project shouldn't be started in the first place.

[@Tubeytime]

@@giveme30dollars I like your passion but I was talking to the OP

[@JJDoggett]

@@Tubeytime Thanks for your comment and I take your point in general but in reference to this project I have to disagree with you. We can only make judgements based on information we have which is in the public domain. My opinion matches that of the video author, so even if this is a prototype it’s still a fundamentally flawed idea. It doesn’t need improving, it needs a complete overhaul. The practicalities don’t make sense as laid out in the video, train cars and rails have much higher capacity and are more efficient than pods with wheels. The concept doesn’t solve the problem that it purports to, it will only reduce fan attendance by car by 5-10% at most, that is a negligible impact on the congestion on game days. Baseball games only happen about 80-90 days out of a 365 day year. The idea of digging up a section of downtown of the US’s second largest city to install the equivalent of an underground bus lane only to serve a comparative handful of baseball fans (and maybe concert goers) on less than a third of the days of the year is abhorrent to me. I don’t care how much money he has or how big Elon’s ego is, this just doesn’t stack up. You mention PR, to me this just seems like a PR exercise to be attached to an infrastructure project but anyone looking at the detail as we have seen in this video will see through that. This is no better than that ridiculous Las Vegas convention centre loop, it’s just a on a ‘grander’ scale end requires a much larger impact on a city rather than a very concentrated area. Being honest I don’t have any skin in the game, I support the Dodgers but I don’t live in LA (or even the US). However, I would be pretty outraged if someone suggested digging up my city for this project. So in conclusion, yes I do hope it fails. If they were looking at a better model which increased the % of fans, would be used more frequently and be expanded to link to other public transport infrastructure then it would be worth more consideration, but my opinion as it is is that it is a vanity project which does not solve the problem it claims to be designed to solve and it cannot justify digging up a section of downtown LA. Anyway, seems Elon has turned his attentions to colonising outer space, I imagine it is much easier to get your way when there are no pesky regulations or public opposition to your plans.

[@Tubeytime]

​@@JJDoggett Where did you get "vanity project" and "ego"? It sounds like there's an element beyond the logistics that you and many others are seeing that I'm completely unaware of. Whether or not the project will succeed, my interpretation is that he's trying to solve problems for ordinary people and many of these problems require huge investments to get going. The definition of ego and vanity is buying 150 cars to sit in a garage like Leno, or buying a $70 mil mansion in Beverly hills like Notch. Elon spends his money the way a rich person should, he's allowed to fuck up a few times.

[@jameskerherve7487]

I’m a native of the SF Bay Area, native Californian. The problem with California is our original city planners 1940s - 1960s had no interest in public transportation. These city planners came from the generation of depression era small agricultural towns. The idea of having small downtown districts people walked or took a rail system was in their minds old outdated ways of thinking. The planners wanted to eliminate small town ideas with big civic centers such as malls, shopping centers, business campuses linked by the highway system. This accounts for your giant LA parking lot. The mind set as we all know was the American dream which included owning a car for every household which is why all homes in the US are expected to have a one or two car garage. Unfortunately with this in place public transportation wasn’t just not considered but also considered a lower economic level of transportation. Middle class households in the 1980s and 1990s wouldn’t be caught dead getting on a bus or a train as a main method of transportation. This is the challenge which there is no real solution for public transportation in California. Cities are not designed for good rail systems and using public transportation is still looked at as lower class or last resort.

[@Tubeytime]

Shhh, no US sympathizing. This comment section is for bullying ONLY.

[@CloneLoli]

It's not even just a California thing, it's like an American ideal which is why this shit will never be solved in America, an entire aspect of growing up in this country is "owning a car" because it's part of "being an adult".

[@Zorro9129]

@@CloneLoli It also comes from public transport being filled with crappy, repulsive people. Ride on the metro in NYC one time, and compare it to a subway ride in China.

[@peterlustig6888]

The main problem is your two party election system. The democrats are just as retarded as the republicans in many big issues, and you always have to go all in. In europe I can vote for an ecological progressive, but socially conservative party if i want to.

[@Zorro9129]

@@peterlustig6888 Europe functionally is a puppet of the powerful elite centered in America. Or, as M£ncius M0ldbug puts it, "muppets," because they are more convincing and able to criticize the hand that controls them.

[@brentschellekens4151]

"Ok so, we want to have these carriages going through an underground tunnel transporting people to the stadium" So a metro? "NO, I mean indiviually motorised carriages the size of cars" OW, so a metro but WORSE in every single aspect? "Yes and add an elevator that slows traffic down for no reason except that it looks cool" Wtf is wrong with you?

[@lucacolombo7603]

Why not using a slope? I really can't get his obsession about lifts

[@takeshikovach5165]

@@lucacolombo7603 it's a tunnel that will extend to millionaires neighborhood, so they can travel. Without any traffic.

[@lucacolombo7603]

@@takeshikovach5165 that I could understand, thank you. It's the lift part that adds an unnecessary bottleneck and point of failure.

[@nonyabidness8676]

Some people in America are so against trains and busses, they'll accept literally any solution instead of them. A nearby metro wanted to install light-rail, and I had an uncle that absolutely insisted that it was going to fail. "We used to have trains. We tore them out. Nobody rides trains." The system has surpassed all expectations of ridership. Nearby suburbs that originally held out against it expanding into their area are now accepting it as a solution to workday traffic and a way to bring shoppers to their business areas.

[@alextasarov1341]

Absolutely no way I am sitting in a “pod,” with tires, going 150 mph in a tunnel. All it takes is one rock or bag on the road. It makes no sense to add the complexity to steering components and high-wear items like tires when it could be on a rail with less friction and higher efficiency (greater capacity vehicle). Why don’t they just make electric trains or something. Just silly.

[@JohnnyThund3r]

Elon's not in the train business and his whole economic theory with everything is about reusing the waste from his other projects into new projects to save costs. In this case it's cars. But the whole thing has ended up a PR disaster for Elon, so hopefully Americans will start realizing high speed rail and tram systems are still the future again, and we can get back to building real public transportation systems that work in the USA.

[@R77ification]

Elon Musk: Inventing ultra expensive and clunky solutions to already solved problems.

[@SofaKingShit]

Apparently subways and trains do not adequately shield decent people from disreputable ne'er-do-wells who spend their time unashamedly lounging about with appallingly boorish demeanors such as the one l myself might enjoy whilst returning home after consuming several pleasantly alcoholic beverages.

[@vietoo5056]

That's 21st century marketing for you, they create a new problem and sell us the solution :/

[@nathanlevesque7812]

He takes credit for it

[@Fleato]

youtube commenters: I know better and think that trying something that could solve other solutions is a waste because I have loads of engineering experience from watching videos made by people with no engineering experience.

[@nathanlevesque7812]

@@Fleato Did the video make you feel personally attacked or something?

[@nexarx7215]

9:53 "Compared to the toy metro the Dugout Loop is barley a statistical error", you got me with that one.

[@lsfornells]

Yes, that’s a good one. Unfortunately I believe most people in the comments won’t understand the meaning of it

[@nosknut]

Man has no valid points in his video, but i will give him that one it was hillarious 🤣

[@mkronos02]

@@nosknut then he has a point?

[@nosknut]

@@mkronos02 no. Just good humor

[@kashifmalhan4384]

@@nosknut , I'm just curious. How his points are invalid. Can you please explain?

[@thomazmareli]

The Maracanã stadium in Rio de Janeiro is actually a 85000 seats stadium with no parking lots, it just have a metro and a urban train stations

[@jordi590]

Honestly,watching all these videos critizing (rightfully so) all of the boring company's projects made me realized,how underrated public transport is.And I think that if every major urban area had a good quality public transport system,we could totally live in a world without cars...in urban areas

[@laaaliiiluuu]

We have "park and ride" parking lots near most train stations in the villages and smaller towns in Germany where you can usually park your car for free and then take the train to the metro area instead of driving into the city with the car.

[@iaxacs3801]

When he said "did you notice the issue with this station" I was looking at how little the platform is. It looks like it could hold enough people for a single pod. What happens when there's a backup of foot traffic? Can't use the escalators

[@AceOfBlackjack]

Their all one way btw during the events. Arrive their going up, leaving going down.

[@tatert3337]

The picture shown is just a drawing to show the concept. It's not the actual plans drawn to scale. LOL I would think that would be common sense but this video and comment section proves otherwise.

[@iaxacs3801]

@@tatert3337 How about you try again and properly try to debate with me why you think it is a good idea instead of blatantly attacking me like a 3 year old who's mad because I said Superman isn't my favorite superhero. Please use your big boy words.

[@tatert3337]

@@iaxacs3801 Whoa somebody is triggered! Sheesh. Okay, I'll say it again.... The picture shown is just a drawIng used to convey the conceptual idea. It's obviously not an actual construction plan drawing and therefore is not drawn to scale.

[@tatert3337]

@@iaxacs3801 And to clarify, I never said if I think it's a good idea or a bad idea, just that you are misinterpreting the drawing.

[@AWildBard]

I appreciate your arguments. Ironically, LA famously used to have a really good public transportation system with trams and busses. Supposedly, car, tire, and oil companies bought up public transportation companies across the US and bankrupted them. They then sold a lot of cars, tires, and oil.

[@nathaniellamb9184]

Like gm did to all the trolleys, bought them closed them then some the cities buses.

[@AWildBard]

@@nathaniellamb9184 exactly

[@issecret1]

In a fair world that should be illegal. And why weren't those controlled by the city? They were private companies?

[@AWildBard]

@@issecret1 I don't know the details. What companies do usually is they form a separate company or organization with a nondescript name like, "corporation for public transportation." So by the time people realize what is going on, it's too late. Although this happened in the past, similar things are happening today.

[@flpmlks5181]

but public transportation is for poor people, not for someone who wants to show-off with expensive (yet poorly built) car.

[@maxmustermann5353]

You missed the most important thing: LED strips.

[@declantecho1717]

Honestly the only reason they are there is because Elon knew it would be the only way this trash-can idea would make it past opening day. Imagine this tunnel with just normal white lights. Now stop imagining it in order to keep your soul from getting sucked out of your body at the thought of such a postmodernist hell. The facade that the tunnel is a “new idea” would fade so fast there’d be a brick through Elon’s window before it even opened.

[@maxmustermann5353]

@@declantecho1717 yeah, as I said; The most important thing ;-)

[@Vulcano7965]

"Elon Musk re-invented a shitty *insert anything* " is an eternal mood.

[@Fleato]

yeah i mean the guy totally hasn't done anything successfully right. space transportation definitely isn't insanely furthered by SpaceX right. totally hasn't done anything. just makes shitty rockets amirgiht... fucking retards in this comment section i swear

[@Vulcano7965]

@@Fleato Yeah Musk hasn't done shit. He's just good at marketing himself. Others do the work for him. He takes all the credit. - wasn't even part of paypal let alone “inveted“ it - bullied the former CEO of Tesla our of his position. Still is refered to as one of the “founders“ - has no sympathy for the people around him. Workers, co-workers even his ex-wives. - isn't even a great inventor. His only patent is a chargring port for a tesla and a car door I believe. And that is just the tip of the iceberg

[@deadwing7051]

@@Fleato "Oh my gosh he made the rockets go up and come back down, just like the 1970s but better because it's still just as cost inefficient! He also made some vague promises about Mars and gave the US a more expensive Soyuz, so he's practically God and you're just an unbeliever."

[@wog6523]

@@Fleato Bad Word Mean Me Cool-Gangsta. Hood Life Is Tuff, G

[@cassiopeiasfire6457]

"what what, no. no! shut up! the emperor's clothes are *beautiful*. it's just that stupid people can't see them!" i burst out laughing. i've heard the emperor's clothes story so often but that energy... just expresses it so beautifully.

[@rongpirson5250]

1:03 In Melbourne (an otherwise fairly car centric city), there is a region called jolimont, which has the 11th largest stadium on the planet (MCG) next to about 5 other stadiums of varying sizes, and yet it has minimal parking, because it's served by two train stations which carry about half of melbourne's train lines, as well as several tram and bus services