FFXIV - The Tank experience

before i make my FFXIV - The Tank experience video i thought it necessary to make one of these for the bad tanks! that way it wont go to our heads when i make a video highlighting the good and fun aspects of final fantasy 14 tanks (god knows we need to have our egos turned down a peg every once in a while)
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[@jasperzanovich2504]

80% of beeing a tank is confidently running forward. Doesn't matter how undeserved that confidence might be.

[@Jian13]

If I'm not making the healer cry, am I really tanking? If I die than...uh...guess I'll only pull 4 groups instead of five.

[@DoppelgangerTH]

@@Jian13 personally i prefer tanking, though i have all jobs maxed out. If im (rarely) healing a dungeon, I will only cry if tank pulls less than w2w without good reason or if the tank has no stance on. so when i tank (and i tank well) I have certain expectations for healer and wont feel bad if I die because of them not doing their part

[@Jian13]

@Doppelganger I play DRK, which, at least last time I played, is the squishiest tank, so just constantly at 10 to 50% hp. I just imagine they wish I wouldn't aggro the dungeon.

[@arcanine_enjoyer]

​@@DoppelgangerTH For me a good reason to not wall-to-wall is if you're not comfortable with tanking or if the dungeon is below level 30. As a RPR and DRK main I really appreciate when tanks pop their mitigations properly and pull big because it makes me less conscious about wasting my CDs, and also makes me less worried as a healer that I am not doing my job correctly. I did duty roulette once as Sage and was wondering why my heals weren't going through and lo and behold the only mitigation the Tank was using during any of the trash pulls was TBN.

[@autumneagle]

Was in Akadaemia Anyder and Heals said "Run" so I did and pulled everything. I never felt so free with 100 monsters chasing me.

[@AKImeru]

1 - Get stance up 2 - Grab first pack aggro, SPRINT 3 - Get to the second pack, Rampart 4 - As soon first pack arrives, fire off secondary mitigation 5 - Use self heals/mitigation as those come off There you learned how to tank dungeons.

[@xiaocheng6643]

Why Rampart first when you got Arm's Length, though? When you got the second group, hit Reprisal and wait until it runs out, then Rampart :D

[@Poptizzle]

Shhhhh, dont let them know it's that easy

[@laraa739]

Sprint right before the first pack aggros for +10s of sprint!

[@laraa739]

@@xiaocheng6643 because you'd want to use Rampart at the start when there's more enemies and Reprisal later when some have hopefully died since Rampart will come back for the next pull anyway. Definitely remember Arm's Lenght after Rampart though yeah. And maybe stun some big enemies if there's no White Mage since it comes back so fast

[@doomoftheend]

You're welcome!

[@DualEdgest]

I didn't go down the wrong corridor, I was just checking that coffer for a minion.

[@RVBMichaelJCaboose]

X

[@boneheaded8919]

0:06 that goddamn Lancer in a Lv70 Dungeon is sending me

[@shrimp9495]

Knowing what to do as a tank is truly the Final Fantasy

[@Zorae42]

I can't wait to see a whole series of these. "Being a dps is easy and fun. Stand in fire, it's fiiiiine"

[@IceFire1800]

"thats what the healer's there for anyway!"

[@drawingoblin]

"Healers adjust" "what is true north?"

[@pedroscoponi4905]

It really is a very peculiar curve, where 75% tanks are either glory drunk idiots who think they're king of the castle, or sweet peas so full of tankxiety they're _shaking_ like an over-caffeinated pomeranian. As for difficulty, in my exp. Tank is the easiest role, but it's the one where you FEEL the responsibility the most. If I fuck up as a DPS, I die. If I fuck up as a tank, everyone dies (except for me! Crystal Mom says I'm special! :D)

[@somethingsomething259]

That's surprisingly accurate. I main healer, and even though light parties basically wipe if I die, I feel *even more pressure* tanking. Am I making my healer burn GCDs? Did I bork my mitigations? CAN MY DPS AOE THE PACK CORRECTLY?! AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA ALSO HANG ON THEY HAVE POSITIONALS LET ME STOP SPINNING THE BOSS oh no the boss spun itself help meanwhile as healer "oh the tank's about to die [Benediction happens] nvm we're gucci"

[@magnusthedemon]

Don't call me out like this. I've been tanking since I started when 5.4 came out on paladin. I know what I'm doing but it's so scary half the time..I really do feel like a Pomeranian with all my tankxiety

[@Akredi]

Been tanking in mmos for 20 years, some healers in FF14 managed to make me doubt myself, until I saw them doing nothing while the whole group is taking unavoidable aoe damages, not even healing themselves nor doing any dps ... and then complaining about dying first ... Yeah, sometimes it's rough ...

[@Starlitsoul0359]

As a tank main. The second was 10,000 percent me. But now after Warrior I finally feel confident I’m taxing my healers as LITTLE as is possible! Additionally, when you are in a voice chat with your healer…. Bloodwhetting. Wait to run out. Arm’s length, vengeance, reprisal. Wait for low health. Thrill of battle, Equalibrium, Shake it off. rampart. Wait for the last moment. Holmgang. Then by the time Holmgang is about to run out Bloodwhetting should be back, and healer spent the WHOLE time doing nothing but damage! And since you only need your aoes and inner release on your “Dungeon trash” bar. It’s borderline effortless! That all said though. Never. Let. It. Go. To. Your. Head. EVER. A tank needs their healer for the group and themself when they inevitably make a mistake. Your healed keeps you and your team alive. The DPS make the content go faster, a good dps can and will make any fight infinitely less of a chore. The faster it goes, the less mechanics you need to do. And the less mechanics you do, the less healing, tanking, and mistakes you’ve got to worry about. Every role has it’s place holding the group together. Unless you have a team of eight warriors spamming Nascent Glint. Honestly I’d love to see an all warrior team just regening to fast for the boss to do anything. All of them then pop their inner release at the same time and have the legendary EIGHTFOLD FELL CLEAVE!!!

[@Ytherne]

Forgot the part where he use all his mitig at the same time at the beginning of the fight, then complain the healer is not healing him fast enough

[@thyTwilightGoth2]

Bonus Points if it is for the Dungeon Boss and not a trash pack!

[@vineveer4358]

The true tank mood is telling other's it's real stressful and hard to do so that you can keep your insta-queue's.

[@SynodicScribe]

Exactly. 70% of the time we ALWAYS know what we're doing!

[@BirdCyclops]

90% of 10% of every once in a while we actually rock at this game!

[@bocatt9202]

​@@BirdCyclops 10% of 90% of the time I do know which of the two tanks has aggro so I can mit the gigabuster that's coming out next. And the one after that when I forget if I'm supposed to voke or shirk ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[@foxdavion6865]

"60% of the Time, It Works Every Time"

[@Leafia_Barrett]

I mean, 70% is moer confident than I am, so.

[@InfinitusMG]

Saw a tank complaining and asking why they didn't see Medica II being cast. It was level 80 content, and the healer was a Sage.

[@delilah9252]

Forgot the part where you accidentally use Superbolide after a Benediction

[@Aitherea]

Was it really an accident though? 👀

[@Firestar4041]

And the healer pulling out a glock to fix that issue

[@Hitsugix]

@@Firestar4041 i seriously won't heal the tank up again if they do that.

[@zefflick9475]

Yeah, I do that to fuck with the healers sometimes lol.

[@RVBMichaelJCaboose]

Lol that might’ve been me, because i saw that i was near death ^^;

[@Ren-wc3lo]

Everybody gangsta until they land on Holminster Switch

[@zoruasnivy]

First time I did that as a tank was pain, along with Aurum Vale

[@DoppelgangerTH]

lands in holminster switch time for clothing inspection and healer vibe check

[@Loispealz34]

Or fukken Bardam's mettle.

[@MonstrousRegiment]

Tower of Zot is a real reminder to everyone to figure themselves out stat.

[@Diresilence]

I've done the "Yeah, screw this" one time, in the MSQ Roullette. Ninja kept running away ahead and aggroing everything in creation and dragging it back, not even waiting for it to be done to dash off again. Including summoning the boss, with the party being teleported in (Yeah, he was that far ahead of us). Got teleported in with him at around half health, boss was casting a tank buster. I let him eat it, tossing my ranged ability to make sure it ran to me. Dude then rage quit. Was awesome

[@delilah9252]

He really shouldn't have rage quitted tbh, don't see anything wrong with going past the tank. Though that is pretty funny, he could've just gotten rezzed

[@earlknit5372]

​@@delilah9252 the main issue with the DPS running ahead and actually pulling is that there can be a lot of reasons why a tank decides to take things slower and someone else forcefully pulling a bunch of stuff makes aggro management a pain in the ass. Sometimes I'll pull less if myself or the healer is under-geared, if I haven't played in a while so want to ease back in while picking up the pace later in the dungeon, healer asked me to go slow for whatever reason, or I'm just not feeling 100%. While I get that people want to clear as quickly as possible, it should be the roles most effected by pack sizes that have the biggest say in how much the group should pull

[@guyhero6037]

@@earlknit5372 ???? What aggro management now? aggro management is so easy now, literally 1 aoe takes agro off of anyone. Whether it's wall to wall or single pulling your rotation as the tank is the same and by default the game is designed to be tanked wall to wall from heavensward onwards, excluding some spicy pulls in Bardam's mettle and Mt Gulg. Literally the only time you'll want to slow down is if the healer can't keep up with the healing for whatever reason.

[@kevinelliott5140]

​@GuyHero Don't be a try-hard, jackass. If someone wants to take it slow, take it slow. Don't assume everyone wants the same level of intensity. A slow dungeon is better than no dungeon.

[@pedroscoponi4905]

why is it always the NINs? Whenever I see that kind of behavior, it's a NIN. Are they just addicted to going fast?

[@sklefenz]

You forgot the part about always running away from the ninja sand

[@crypto66]

Remember: If you didn't get a commendation, it was because *you did a terrible job and you should never tank again.*

[@GodsPoisonSamael]

No com at the end d? Guess I should hang up my greatsword and turn off the Berserk soundtrack....

[@silque_brigandess]

Well that, or the greasy femqo'te player with the more skin than clothes glam got the 2 other commendations for playing a femqo'te. This also works for fem ao ras.

[@muhammadazamuddinbinazlan8518]

Oh no, this is what felt too

[@wlianetaalfa4377]

I never got any lol I just leave instantly most of the time xD

[@Grimnoire]

​@@silque_brigandesswhy are they greasy

[@nanachimakenshi2512]

You should do a vid on the Aurum Vale experience. Seriously. To this day, that dungeon is still a nightmare for people.

[@BirdCyclops]

hmmm okay next video will be that then

[@Wolfwood222]

Lmao had too many an astrologian fall asleep on astrum vale

[@Akredi]

Aurum Vale ? A nightmare ? Yeah, I can understand as you have to think a bit more about what you are doing, but once you do, it's a fun one.

[@wlianetaalfa4377]

Really I donno why ppl struggle so much was never issue for me o.o

[@Akredi]

@@wlianetaalfa4377 Debuffs and fruits, you would be astonished how many people don't understand that mechanic even if it's written three times in chat ...

[@jamesbiggs8397]

One of these days I'll hit my invincibility button before I die. One of these days. But also trying to communicate with your party on console makes me dread tanking sometimes.

[@Firestar4041]

Had bad anxiety tanking earlier on Grab a usb keyboard if needed but mostly people can read the tells and synergize really well... most times...

[@EchoXVince]

Can you use macros on controller? Maybe entering some common phrases you'd use would make it easier. :) Sometimes emotes can also speak volumes lol. Ultimately I haven't seen a need to talk much more than usual as a tank though, with some situational exceptions.

[@jamesbiggs8397]

@EchoXVince Yeah Macros are available, just gotta figure out how to write them. Thank you for the advise!

[@StriderHoang]

Fragile tanks: Don’t you dare pull before me. Old tanks: Hey ranged DPS, can you aggro the one I forgot over there, then drag it into my aoe? Thanks.

[@ShafroPlaysMinecraft]

I'm newer to tanking and I appreciate a good DPS who can do this. The only time I have gotten annoyed is when they aggro packs and don't bring them to the group I'm currently aoeing. I had a SMN kite around us with the trash pack, and I couldn't for the life of me understand why they didn't just run to me.

[@ayonixanimations]

I'm both, I don't want people pulling before me if they're going to run around like a headless chicken going "I'm getting hit, keep agro D': bad tank" and making me chase them down for something that was their own fault yet they blame me for. If they wanna bring it to me, all for it, it's why I don't care if healers pull more if I'm not getting the hint they wish to continue (As long as they can heal through it because I'm usually not pulling more because I'm out of good mits).

[@Karst_s_m]

@@ShafroPlaysMinecraft i'm in a mosh pit here didnt see that one stray

[@FemboyJoe]

A simple solution. Just fucking ask XD

[@silque_brigandess]

That's not being a "fragile tank", that's putting the edgy reapers and ninjas back in their place.

[@litsaber]

You're not a real tank unless you've forgotten to stance up on the first pull at least once

[@RVBMichaelJCaboose]

I’ve done that a couple times

[@5at5una]

or the one who pull all the way to the wall and let the party wiped before the boss

[@Grimnoire]

I once didn't stance for half of an entire dungeon... No one noticed I hope, just quietly turned it on and pretended nothing happened.

[@funnyvalentine6670]

I did that just now :sob:

[@HazardSJ]

My tanking experience: 1. Grab all mobs then run to wall. 2. Keep aggro. 3. Pop Invuln. 4. Pop mitigation. Meanwhile healer: CURE 1 CURE 1 CURE 1 CURE 1 CURE 1 Me: Dies anyway because they were curing themselves at full HP in a lvl 90 dungeon. 'Today's gonna be a long day.'

[@MalcomMalediction]

loool i feel bad for healer tho cuz its hard to play wit a controller...and figure out how to get used to tab targeting properly.

[@honestbenny]

Healer? Ohhhh, OH! You are not Warrior! ok, now I understand reference!

[@RangerRobin0404]

The number of PLDs I've met who run through a dungeon *just* using Holy Sheltron and no other cooldowns is more than zero. Which is a catastrophe.

[@bocatt9202]

Maining DRK for so long, with the jankiest invuln by half, leveling PLD and being able to just invuln wall to walls twice per dungeon is so... relaxing.

[@RangerRobin0404]

@@bocatt9202 Thing is you *"can"* just pop Bloodwhetting as a WAR, most of the time. Invincibility versus immorality.

[@Spore9996]

@@RangerRobin0404 WAR main here, immortality is fun.

[@Feuerhamster]

As a WAR main I take offence to this. I NEVER know what i'm doing.

[@drexfivemorning3930]

Aww yeah leader of the pack! (OH NO IM LEADING THE PACK)

[@Tenchinu]

my first job was a tank. I took a wrong turn, only managed to pull half of the mobs, and mid dungeon the DPS just ran past me all the way to the boss. And that is why BlueMage is the best job ever u guys :(

[@salemfae]

I'm still a baby tank,, and I play on controller if it makes a difference- but anyone else occasionally accidentally hit living dead bc button smash :')

[@Xandranxanda]

Being a tank is great. Got a lot more into it once I realized not throwing a tantrum at every opportunity immediately makes you better than an enormous amount of DF tanks. Use Rampart once and you're immediately better than half of the remaining.

[@jneal1347]

I haven't played XIV, but as a tank main in LOL all of this still hits me right to the core 💀

[@Jian13]

If you're dying, tank, consider using your cooldowns.

[@BirdCyclops]

how dare you make sense

[@That1Smug]

As a tank we always don't use our heads and bonk our heads and die.

[@Uthardar]

Paladin: sometimes I’m a tank, sometimes I’m a healer. Sometimes I’m both, if we run out of potions.

[@ryanweible9090]

to be fair, that @#$%ing lighthouse is confusing.

[@BirdCyclops]

fuck the lighthouse dungeon, all my homies hate the lighthouse dungeon

[@marikosagarisarchives3281]

I'll always remember in a roulette once one of the DPS complained to me (the Paladin) for lack of heals 🤣 Now why I say this. Cause 1:05 is exactly what the healer was wearing and the dps compained to me cause I looked more like a healer than they did 🤣🤣

[@Akredi]

Well, I've been in a few dungeons with paladins who healed the group through an entire boss 'cause the healer got OSed by a mechanic we warned about before the fight, that was fun ( only once the healer warned us at the start it was his first time, and he was apologizing so much we couldn't be angry at him )

[@wolffster25]

My favorite is the tanks who use single target attacks instead of aoe during trash pulls and wonder why they can't keep agro.

[@DoppelgangerTH]

they dont wonder. they dont even speak. or read chat. feels like its a bot behind a screen

[@Blaze_Black]

​@@DoppelgangerTH Yeah, I feel that. I use macro with auto translate to tell tanks to use aoe attacks. If I'm lucky, tanks would communicate back. I remembered I once tanked the whole duty while the astrologian kept healing me.

[@Tindall4CO]

As a person that has mained both Dark Knight and Paladin I can confidently say I love maining Tank as the absolute feeling of being unkillable if you do it right just feels so good.

[@Tichondrius1]

Being a tank in XIV is pure fucking stress. I need to watch a walktrough tutorial for every single dungeon before entering it.

[@Firestar4041]

I just like the coats, armor, and weapons we get c: Also dont mind being the teams meat shield

[@LadyofInsanity]

As a healer main, I decided to try tanking yesterday. Lots and lots of internal screaming ensued. I got a couple of player comms from it.

[@anakagungaryakrishnabhakti145]

Imagine needing a tank just pick dancer since it got both mitigation and healing.

[@BirdCyclops]

dancer, truly the tank of healers of support of ranged melee dps

[@user-yg7sh9fh2y]

Being a tank ain't easy, ask Heavy weapons guy. People think they can outsmart him.. maybe but no one can't outsmart bullet.

[@silveranime]

Not me saying "but that's Satascha" and him responding to that I fucking love it

[@Pfincess]

I am heavy weapons guy, and I always know what I'm doing.

[@TheHappySerpent]

0:16 this is actually so aggrivating though

[@TheGodlikeDragon]

This from a healer main to all tanks. Aurum Vale sucks as it is, so stop pulling everything and walking in the yellow puddles of acid! Esuna cant remove the goldbile poisoning effect!

[@Chippaization]

no

[@TheGodlikeDragon]

@@Chippaization That´s it, no heals for you!

[@Chippaization]

@@TheGodlikeDragon *is PLD* oh nooo :(

[@TheGodlikeDragon]

@@Chippaization ..........I heal the boss

[@Chippaization]

@@TheGodlikeDragon I.....shrik to the rdm

[@TheChaosGear]

Funny story, did the same thing to the SMN in the party, thought our WHM was a BLM. the flames on the amor do not help 😅

[@FoehnAlkaiser]

I just like the play style of the paladin…

[@ZurichiVonVorst]

As a Warrior main! Healing? I AM THE HEALER! DPS, Good on that, and Tanking, Well I'm a tank. But in all seriousness I'll never stop pulling wall to wall unless the healing ask me too, A angry Healer is a stuff of nightmares so be kind to them and stuff. And remember to Unga Bunga your way thought all the content in this game because no thoughts is better then having thoughts. I'm already at the end the dungeon and I have no clue were my team is.

[@Majima_Nowhere]

Day 1 of tanking: "OMG scawy, sorry if I mess up :'(" Day 3 of tanking: "Oh this is actually pretty easy, just pull with aoe and press any mit once" Day 10 of tanking: "STOP HEALING ME, I ONLY FEEL ALIVE WHEN I'M DYING"

[@shooby9496]

That dead end s*** is so true. Thankfully they've reworked a couple of the older dungeons so that's not quite as easy to do.

[@JEL625]

Accurate. I just resent the bad tank being dark knight. Mostly because I main dark knight and felt called out by forgetting my tank stance😅

[@BirdCyclops]

its okay, the person that taught me how to be a good tank is a dark tank main and she is amazing at what she does its just a small inside joke to poke fun at her

[@bocatt9202]

no no, as a drk main myself, all of this is true.

[@Awesomewithaz]

I'm trying my best... I'm just... not very good. Or any good.

[@Spamhard]

As a sprout tank, this is very relatable. Especially trying not to have meltdowns when DPS keeps running ahead and pulling everything. First they give me anxiety about pulling too slow, then I get anxiety because they pulled ahead too far and I'm a sprout with gear that's not built for 500 packs of baddies and omg healer I'm so sorry I didn't want this!

[@swiftcastholy9034]

Tanks need to remember something - we all get sprint at level 1. If people get ahead of you just do better next time so they don't get the chance to.

[@joshuaalfrey1210]

I wiped my party more than twice on uwu during ultima phase because I forgot to turn my tank stance off.

[@joshuaalfrey1210]

Opps I meant on

[@bloooddmooonn]

Only reason I lvled an other job besides tank was, I honestly felt like I was messing up to much and I didn’t understand what was going on

[@bloooddmooonn]

Ended up lvling a MCH and I’m loving it, lvled a GNB as my tank, have a BRD and RED that need finishing, but I’m wondering what I should actually lvls next, cause I just don’t know anymore

[@Rhoen13]

As a Dark Knight Roe tank main oh my god ohmygod ohmygod 😂😂😂

[@ステラ死]

"it's easy --FOR ME, IT WILL BE HARD FOR YOU" sums up about the mindset of 60% of the people who talk about savage, ultimate, and really just anything you can claim is challenging

[@MalcomMalediction]

lol i've been there where i forgot that as soon as u enter a dungeon with a party u have to turn back on ur tank stance (iron will) to get n collect aggro easily. Its embarrassing.

[@MrAceofspades627]

I like being a tank because all of the hot bosses have to look at me.

[@zakurazenkato9045]

You forgot to add in, doing all of your cds and mitigations all at once so your healer can work overtime lol.

[@danielpetersen2307]

Remember to thank your healer (and the tank, if they behave) As for us dps, we're just happy to be here

[@grizzlybear6377]

Your party: As tank, you need to walk in front The entire party 2 minutes later: The tank doesn't know where they're going. . .

[@IvyrKazegami]

I ... only ever complain about a DPS pulling more when we can all see the poor healer is struggling to keep me alive while I do my best to mitigate everything as much as I can TwT Like yes I get it W2W for life and all, but if the healer can't keep me up during the first two mob packs ... yeah that's suicide

[@suburbensiren8963]

Ah, the days of taking a group then the DPS decides that you are not moving forward fast enough so they agro the next group and you must desperately stay alive instead of working at a smart pace

[@moii3345]

I mean, are you even a proper tank if dps has time to aggro anything before you?

[@Burn2themall]

Look gunbreaker make the big booms and I can play hyper aggressive while also controlling the speed of the dungeon(unless the healer needs a break) plus in any game I play I'm the tank not cause I usually choose it but cause I pull aggro on things and enemies just naturally more than once I've managed to steal aggro from a tank while playing mch

[@NiaNostos]

My sprout GBR heart FEELS this

[@nekochiyu5060]

I love him

[@TheKarishi]

Surprised that Tank Privilege didn't come up. "No, it's fine, I can take one or two mechanics with my mitigation."

[@BirdCyclops]

i am planning on making another video about tank privilege and "the good tank experience" to balance out the negativity of this vid hehe

[@Chichaetomate]

there have been times when i get into an a dungeon... or was it msq... cant remembe, anyways i was doing paula deen stuff fo obs i have tank stance because it is the first thing i pop when i log in... so i get into the instance and the tank stance is gone also as a scholar main... you know for sure ill glam fairy as carbuncle and not heal once that options is available... also why a dark knight? you missed the chance of superbolide right after the massive heals wasting all of the resources the healer used to top off the gunbreaker...

[@BirdCyclops]

JAJJAJA stealth healing my way thru MSQ

[@16Vagabond]

that damn dead end, I'm new to the game and a tank, and I did exactly that hahaha/ that dungeon with the tonberries, too, I got confidently lost a lot

[@TankNode]

I'm happy I mained DRK all the way through after HW (with classes on the side) it's fun!!!

[@RicardoSantos-oz3uj]

As a tank with a burger king crown. I never know what I am doing.

[@idkmyname91]

If someone pulls a wave before the tank does, it just means they wanna try their hand at tanking this pull. I'm happy to let them ^^

[@KintokiSan]

That's why I only tank light party dungeons. I don't like the pressure of having to know and execute everything perfectly. At least as a healer I can blame the DPS dying on them not doing the mechanic right.

[@modman4842]

dont play FFXIV but i like to play the heal tank where you are extremely tanky and have health that is hard to decrease but i can also heal myself and so go for endurance

[@overdrivedrinker8284]

Warrior’s probably right up your alley, if you’re looking to play at some point. Great tanks, relatively easy to learn, and a LOT of self heals and sustain

[@Nicolas_GE]

hey , did you know that 100% of healers that don't heal their tanks end up dying themselves, no matter how high their dps?

[@Videokirby]

Tanking is easy. There's a simple check on how well I'm doing: "Is everyone dead?" If they're not, I'm a good tank. If they are, it's the Healer's fault, *always.*

[@MyVanir]

You pull it once, no biggie. You pull it every time, enjoy the counter-trolling from a fed-up tank.

[@TheLionheart227]

Forget the tanks that forget where there team is and outruns their healer’s range and dies leaving everyone else to deal with every monster in that section before boss.

[@son0fgrim]

not even a parody of the average DRK player.

[@shyrin8772]

Probably an unnecessary step, but any time I tank, I try to ask my healer how comfy they are with the dungeon/how they're feeling, then base the pulls off of that. If they're not feeling like messing with a wall-to-wall pull or are new to the dungeon, it's nice to know that before I go hog wild xD

[@greatazuredragon]

Awesome

[@JS-kr8fs]

"Why are you not wall-to-walling? So toxic! Report for griefing!! REEEE!!"

[@Zavitor]

Roe are always party leaders, even if they're WHM.

[@NotTheWheel]

I'd say If you want to be a good tank be a healer first.

[@eolendes6432]

If the healer does it right, you wont actually see them cast a single healing spell. GCD healing is a myth.

[@OpXarxa]

In my experience as a main tank, while I'm normally competent enough, the more confident I am that I know exactly what I'm doing, the more likely I am to make oopsies. big oopsies, even. Conversely, the less of a fuck I give as I speedrun my way through a roulette and mentally uttering an unspoken "Healer adjust", the more flawlessly I play.

[@SCP_Gate-Guardian]

I just love getting into a provoke fight with other DRKs

[@laurenlunamar4729]

I guess so mad when I was being a paladin and I was telling them I was brushing off paladin and then this dancer goes runs in front of me and go gets the mobs even though I've been pulling big oh I was so mad I was seriously considering shutting down my tank stands and just saying go have fun tank stands and Jess saying go have fun. It's really annoying when the DPS does that regardless of oh hey it makes things done faster or oh hey it gets more more mobs I was already pulling big I didn't need them to go ahead of me pull and then bring it to I'm a tank I could do that myself

[@erdnuzz8368]

Yes.

[@pragmat1k]

I like being a tank because I get to skip a lot of trial mechanics.

[@BirdCyclops]

tank privy-leg

[@Realmidboss]

As long as the DPSis taking the trash mobs to me while I advance, I let them pull whatever they want.

[@Xukerino]

His name is man 𝗠O𝗗𝗘

[@mysnipe4227]

This is a great video but I will say as a dps main i think I have never met a bad tank ussally I think they know what there doing but I could see how a bad one could be god awful lol.

[@BirdCyclops]

i think that is mostly due to being a DPS main, Tank mains doing alt jobs and Healer mains will more readily notice when a tank is bad at what they do, specially in on ShB and EW dungeons cause as a DPS you only know a tank is bad if you are paying close attention at their cooldowns, and even then thats a maybe

[@Akredi]

As a machinist main, I know when the tank is bad quite easily, wait until the flamethrower is enough to take aggro from the tank ...

[@empressmoni5381]

do tanks actually get upset when i aggro before they can

[@BirdCyclops]

most dont care, a small amount do but you shouldnt care about em, aggro in FFXIV is super easy to manage

[@empressmoni5381]

@@BirdCyclops ok cool because ive started doing that recently and thought I was doing something wrong

[@manandtoy]

@@empressmoni5381 Counterpoint: As a still learning tank with heaps of tanxiety, please try to avoid doing this. And if you pick up aggro, bring it to the tank. Yes it might be 'easy to manage aggro in FFXIV' but you are effectively making the tank's main purpose harder. You have your job. Tanks have theirs. Healers have theirs. We work together but all have different key roles. And personally I don't get upset but I do think this sprint obsession is whack when someone is still learning or is not confident yet - for whatever reason. I know a couple of new players tanking as their first job who have been put off the game, because DPS or healers are being plain impatient. They get told the community is wonderful only to have people making the chosen job harder almost immediately (and often being a bit rude too). Even after communicating the fact that they are new. That's a shame imo. I think if someone signs up to do a duty it will take as long as it takes. Tanks should set the pace in communication with the healer. Not because they are better but because their main role is about getting and keeping aggro. Which is easier to do if they get to mobs first.

[@therunawaygirl5096]

And then you get WAR, level 52, and Raw Intuition/Bloodwhetting on CD.

[@YourBoyNobody530]

So, not gonna lie it seems pretty simple. Keep aggro, use your skills properly, make sure your positioned correctly, and don't blame the healer they're trying their best. If they can be doing better try to give constructive advise on how they might improve rather than calling them stupid or something.

[@AshnSilvercorp]

Tanks when healers forget they exist: .