Add a Powerflex 525 drive to a Controllogix Compactlogix over Ethernet

[@jerrycarter3963]

Thank you for your videos. I have done quite a bit of programming (allen bradley, automation direct, and others) but i always like witching and learning new things. You do a great job of explaining. Thank you for your time and dedication.

[@TimWilborne]

You are welcome Jerry!

[@victortarango101]

Tim excelent video I highly appreciate yours support for showing it😀

[@TimWilborne]

No problem 👍

[@palazzolo85]

Subscribed. Your a good man, I’m a fellow controls engineer. Work with AB on a daily basis.

[@TimWilborne]

Thanks for subscribing!

[@anthonybuddini2828]

Hi Tim, thank you for the information. Very useful video...

[@TimWilborne]

You are welcome

[@CristianoSantos-yy6dw]

sim como faço ? Outra dúvida estou precisando fazer um controle quando a frequência de pulsos aumentar do encoder quero que diminua a frequência do inversor, nesse caso um controle inversamente proporcional, qual o parâmetro devo alterar pra fazer esse controle inverso no Pf525? Desse já agradeço!

[@bandapgbr1]

Tim, Thank you so much for share !!!! Im from Brazil

[@TimWilborne]

You are welcome!

[@patrickhopman4350]

Have made a sequel video to this? I would like to see an example of programming speed control setting up some of the other parameters. Also, can it be configured to use either ethernet or the push button/potentiometer? Love your videos by the way, they are the best ones I've found at explaining things.

[@TimWilborne]

Hi Patrick, check out this series, it has several different setups for the Powerflex 525. twcontrols.com/ac-drives-and-3-phase-motors

[@balabala-fw7gi]

Nice video sir, I learn AB plc and drives for your video reference.

[@TimWilborne]

That is great to hear!

[@funnyshortsdaily515]

If my drive fails and I replace it do you have a vid on how to load the old parameters to it along with set up Ethernet connection?

[@TimWilborne]

Here is a video of backing up your Powerflex drive. kzbin.info/www/bejne/bmKqYYyPar12iZY

[@VictorValladares-r3r]

Tim, how do you get that IP address you used on the VFD? do you just make that IP address up or do you get it from somewhere on studio? I'm assuming you make that number up from the last IP address you added?

[@TimWilborne]

Here is a video that lightly explains IP addresses kzbin.infoW7Q5ZgvEWiw?feature=share

[@rxplusplates646]

Great videos as always! If i am using a momentary foot pedal to control the powerflex can I use the start command in the "Jog" output instead of the start?

[@TimWilborne]

Honestly I have never used the Jog feature, I should play with it sometime. The easiest way to do it is XIO Drive.Start OTE Drive.Stop. That way when ever the Start has a 0 in it, it will put a 1 in the Stop, and vice versa.

[@jacksonsimon8632]

I enjoyed this tutorial session. I already learned a lot from you. Can you show me how to program an Allen Bradley 523 VFD with my laptop?

[@TimWilborne]

I like using Connected Components Workbench for that. Check out this video. kzbin.info/www/bejne/bmKqYYyPar12iZY

[@muhammadshehbaz7765]

its very interesting and informative video. thank you for making it

[@TimWilborne]

You are welcome

[@kinikinrd]

Tim, I love you videos but this one brings up a question. The two ways you show to turn on and turn off the drive produce the same result but the first one is instantly recognizable as on-off and the second must be interpreted you might say. To the average person the first is easier to understand. Green button turns it on, red button turns it off. The second example has a latch which is not needed, otherwise they are the same. Both take two rungs. What is the benefit of using the harder to read method?

[@TimWilborne]

The second one is what you will more commonly see and allows for much more control flexibility when you go beyond a basic start stop.

[@guangyaoli6218]

Thank you very much for your answer boss! One more question is if I use wifi in a plant. How to set ip address to match plc inrslink?Could you make a viedo show?

[@TimWilborne]

Same way as wired

[@nandusuresh2202]

Thankyou soo much for the videos ❤❤

[@TimWilborne]

You are so welcome!

[@spokitive]

Hello, So I had power flex 70 but it is now obselete and I replaced it with 525 so I followed same steps but I am getting module not configured after the download how do I fix that ? Also sometimes I can ping my PLC but when I try to connect to it it takes so long and sometimes it works and sometimes not what could be the issues ?Thank you

[@TimWilborne]

Wildly guessing one of the data link numbers are wrong

[@richardsonmoura593]

Hi, thanks for all of your videos, really useful for me. Please could you tell me, how the plc keep the parameters for those inverters, I meanimg, we have a powerflex 225 burned out and we just set the IP on his HMI and all parameters was set and it works as built. How it happened? Thanks.

[@TimWilborne]

Automatic Device Configuration, check out this video. kzbin.info/www/bejne/iovLpnaLfMijadU

[@tgomidwest9399]

I think PLC to PLC communication would be a great topic to cover.

[@TimWilborne]

We've hit Controllogix to Micro800 and Micro800 to Controllogix communications and we have Controllogix to Controllogix communications coming. Anything else come to mind?

[@shawnspencer8766]

@@TimWilborne I see a lot of controllogix to SLC 500 communications at my job. That would be a cool topic to cover as well

[@TimWilborne]

@@shawnspencer8766 I could cover that. I'll put it on the list Shawn.

[@juanenriquerivera7808]

How can I get one of the trainer boards that you use in your videos and what's the price?

[@TimWilborne]

Here you go twcontrols.com/plc-trainers

[@rahulrpatil3005]

Brilliantly done 🙏👍🏼

[@TimWilborne]

Thank you Rahul

[@nuragasaric9596]

I did same thing and I/O didn't come on at all it whould be nice to get video about it .Thank you

[@geesonmartinem.r4926]

Very detailed information.thank you Sir

[@TimWilborne]

Thank you

[@joseangelrinconluengo5331]

how do i know which revision i have to put when im adding the drive? Thanks

[@TimWilborne]

Go Communications, Who Active, right click the drive and select Device Properties.

[@mikebradley812]

Thanks for the videos, your doing a great job. When we have to replace a drive that is networked to a Compact Logix via ethernet, we often have problems getting the drive to work with the system. Is there a video that you have that covers troubleshooting these problems? Thanks again

[@TimWilborne]

Do you have trouble setting the IP address or the other parameters?

[@mcleodautomation]

You're

[@lalitpandey8023]

Thanks sir for this video, please share video on the use of sequence control in plant automation.

[@TimWilborne]

Hi Lalit. We have that for RsLogix 500. You can find it at the following link. We have machine sequencing lessons in the works for Studio 5000 and Connected Components Workbench planned, with the notable missing method of sequencer instructions. I don't believe they are a good way of sequencing machine steps. twcontrols.com/allen-bradley-rslogix-500-lessons-for-the-micrologix-and-slc-plc

[@lalitpandey8023]

@@TimWilborne Thanks alot for your support .

[@TimWilborne]

@@lalitpandey8023 You are welcome.

[@ManojYadav-rq8or]

Hi tim can you help me how to do configuration of two device ome master plc and other ethernet module via wireless anybus bolt wifi

[@alangutierrez1447]

Can you do a video explaining a power flex 525 path splicing failed splice path

[@TimWilborne]

Do you have a yellow triangle beside of it?

[@jwarf7864]

Hello, is there anyway to add the powerflex 525 to a version 13 controller project? I have to AOP downloaded but they won't show up, when I try to add the 525 to the ethernet module in the tree? I found AOP's for ver.16-19 on the Rockwell site.

[@TimWilborne]

You would have to use the Generic Ethernet module. It isn't difficult to set up but I don't have a video on that. It's in the manual... if I'm recalling correctly. We did it in a recent class for some reason.

[@jwarf7864]

@@TimWilborne Thank you for your response. I think I will try updating the firmware to ver.17. We are limited to nothing above Version 19 due to Zenon HMI's.

[@2012jordanat]

These videos are absolutely phenomenal! It's tutorials and explanations like these that have helped me teach myself these automation systems, so thank you so much for your time and effort here! I don't suppose you have plans to pull together a video similar to this one, expect using a Micro800 series with the PF525? I'm looking to control one using an 850, a PanelView, and a PF525...

[@2012jordanat]

And as soon as I finished this comment, I saw your "Program a Micro820 to Control a Powerflex 525 with a UDFB" video in my upcoming videos list...so thank you!

[@TimWilborne]

You are welcome!

[@shapoorkosarimehr9404]

Hi TIM I am starting a new project with a 1769-L24ER controller. I connected up to the USB port and did a firmware flash to V21.011. Everything seemed to go normal. At the end the controller would not communicate back to the ControlFlash program that it had the new version. Now I get the solid red OK light and when I power it up it wont do the diagnostic test where it will runs through and lights all the lights. The USB port wont work either. Any ideas

[@TimWilborne]

The firmware upgrade failed. Time to call Rockwell, it will need to be sent back.

[@shawnspencer8766]

Awesome video Id be interested in seeing different speed set points and using the logic to change them (ie one button slow jog, second button fast jog)

[@TimWilborne]

I just recorded that for one of our Patreon supporters. It should be public soon.

[@joebilby1007]

@@TimWilborne Hey Tim, is the video still only for your Patreon supporters?

[@TimWilborne]

@@joebilby1007 Here you go kzbin.info/www/bejne/ooHJeXukqKiiqZI

[@brianm17]

At 8:43 I noticed that you have three options for the start source (#46, 48, and 50). Number 50 is already set to E/IP. Did you have to change source one to E/IP or is there a way to simply select source three as your control method?

[@TimWilborne]

Hi Brian, you can configure digital inputs to switch between start sources and speed references. I have done this once, it would make for a good exercise. It had a 3 position Hand Off Auto selector switch. When in Auto, it's start source and speed reference was over Ethernet, but when in hand, its start source and Ethernet were from the drive I/O terminals.

[@pablodigamon9360]

Thanks Tim. good Video Do you have video tutorial to how to set up IP number of 1794 AENT and 1747 AENTR

[@TimWilborne]

Here is how I do it. plctools.com/how-to-read-and-write-an-ip-address-to-an-allen-bradley-1794-aent-flex-i-o-module/

[@marcelodigamon4845]

@@TimWilborne Thank you

[@keithhoffman-q8q]

good video i have a question i need to know how to get a micro 800 plc to set the powerflex drive parameters on power-up via ethernet/ip or dsi and if any additional hardware is required other than ethernet cables

[@TimWilborne]

I don't believe the Micro800s support ADC (Automatic Device Configuration) so it would take quite a bit of work to set the drive parameters. If you need that feature, you probably need to look at a Compactlogix. Here is a video showing that feature. Curious, why do you need to set them on powerup? Is it just in case you need to replace a drive? kzbin.info/www/bejne/eWOXaoGkf5l4o68

[@keithhoffman-q8q]

@@TimWilborne correct, in the event of drive failure during production hours the maintenance crew will replace it and when they power up the panel it takes an additional 5 min to program the drive even if they have the "cheat sheet" for that machine as far as looking at CompactLogix the company cant afford swap out all the plc's to those at the moment the old automation tech was able to do it with a micrologix 1400 and an adaptor (i assume it was for Modbus) to set parameters on a power flex 4 now just a guess on my part but can you send a write string or word to the powerflex something like a program variable? variable "p36" with a value of "5"

[@TimWilborne]

We long as the parameters are limited, it would be possible

[@keithhoffman-q8q]

@@TimWilborne outstanding, i think i would not need more than 5 parameters such as a preset speed, start source, and basic motor parameters like FLA etc.

[@FaizanKhan-j6q2u]

good explaination thank you sir .

[@TimWilborne]

You are welcome

[@noname-g8e]

Could you make a video on how to use the powerflex 525 VFD PID loop control function in studio 5000 using the compactlogix plc?

[@TimWilborne]

That would make a good one.

[@noname-g8e]

​@@TimWilborne Could you make a video on how to control the powerflex VFD in studio 5000 using modbus?

[@TimWilborne]

@@noname-g8e You can only do Modbus to the Powerflex 525 over serial, not Ethernet. Here is a video connecting a Micro820 to it over serial. kzbin.info/www/bejne/d4PKY4R-o5h8eJI

[@noname-g8e]

@@TimWilborne Do you have a 1769-sm2 Compact I/O module or a Prosoft technology MVI69E-MBS module you can use with your compactlogix plc to control a powerflex vfd besides the powerflex 525? I would like see a video on how to setup and use those modules in studio 5000 on the compactlogix plc to control a powerflex 4 vfd so that I can learn how to do it myself. I watched the video on the Micro800 Modbus RTU Serial Configuration and gave me some good information, but I would like to see a video on how to setup and use the 1769-sm2 Compact I/O module or a Prosoft technology MVI69E-MBS module in studio 5000 on the compactlogix plc to control a powerflex vfd .

[@TimWilborne]

@@noname-g8e No, don't have either of them

[@iamcool8304]

Do you have a video on how I can control a VFD on a compact logix PLC that is connected to a different compact logix?

[@TimWilborne]

I'm not following you. Are you saying that they are not on the same Ethernet network?

[@iamcool8304]

@@TimWilborne I have a L30-ER that is connected to 3 drives, 1 output and one input card. I want my L24ER-QBFC1B to be able to control a drive, and few inputs and a few out puts of the L30-ER.

[@TimWilborne]

@@iamcool8304 Sounds like produced and consumed tags between the L30 and the L24 would be the easiest solution if they are both connected over Ethernet. Here is a video on that. kzbin.info/www/bejne/d3Oycnuvgciaia8

[@iamcool8304]

OK Tim you passed that challenge with flying colors thank you. Now for my next question what if I wanted to control the same two PLCs using one HMI?

[@TimWilborne]

@@iamcool8304 Most HMI support more than one controller. You should be fine

[@guangyaoli6218]

Boss. When i meet two enthernet cards in plc with different ip address. Which ip address i should set up in my pc for matching? Thank you ceru much!

[@TimWilborne]

The one that is on the network that you are plugging into.

[@guangyaoli6218]

@@TimWilborne thank you boss

[@TimWilborne]

You are welcome

[@smartpaco8360]

If the 525 is not on the list, how is it possible to add it?

[@TimWilborne]

Are you right clicking "Ethernet" then selecting new module? This brings up a different list than adding standard I/O.

[@smartpaco8360]

Yes, I have other powerflex devices but not 525 unfortunately

[@benedalati1527]

At 4:43, you mention downloading the program. What program? I put the parameters in the powerflex manually following your previous video. Was i supposed to write a simple start stop program and downloaded it to the controller? what should my output be? one more, can i delete the pwerflex drive and create one the way you show here. I wanted to delete it and start fresh but got a mesage"Are you sure you want this module and all og its child to be deleted?" sounds scary? Thanks for all of your informative videos. I am new to this and already have learned a lot by watching them. regards Ben E

[@TimWilborne]

Not following your question Ben. The program we made from 0:00 to 4:42 of this very video is what you are downloading.

[@benedalati1527]

Hi Tim, Thanks for the reply. What I am asking is which program you are referring to. i don't see you doing any program but you say let's download ( the program ??). Did you write a program. Do mind posting it along with the wiring for the input and output. I hope my question makes sense. Regards Be

[@TimWilborne]

From 0:00 to 4:42 we created a program and added the drive to the configuration. I'm still not following you.

[@eliekhananya1551]

Do you know generally how old the revision on the vfd can be until it stops communicating? Bc I think we had a power flex 525 with a revision 3 that went bad, replaced it with a 6 and didn’t communicate bc in the plc it was a 3.

[@TimWilborne]

You must change your major revision in Studio 5000. I should have thought to cover this. I'll put it on the list Elie.

[@fernandodepaulavicente9027]

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[@LearningInVR]

Only have version 20 of studio 5000 / . Will trainer work with this version(20) If not I gotta go ccw 12 / micrologix 800 / logic theme but I rather compactlogix .... which is ideal but I cannot get the proper version new at work .... only service version its 789 so I don't think it's the right one to program and train with but I have a full version 20 pro

[@TimWilborne]

Yes, version 20 is the minimum version that will work with our trainers.

[@Victor_Sj]

Hi, i would like to change a powerflex 525 installed for other new one, but after It's configured, the ethernet led port only flashing and not connect to the net to recive and manage the vfd via ethernet? thancks

[@TimWilborne]

Sounds like you need to double check the IP address configuration.

[@Victor_Sj]

@@TimWilborne But the parameters ip and mask net are correct

[@souravsain4178]

How to change IP address in Power flex video-18?

[@CristianoSantos-yy6dw]

Como usar uma entrada digital pra desativar a função PID ?

[@TimWilborne]

You probably want to look at using it to switch to speed reference 2.

[@CristianoSantos-yy6dw]

@@TimWilborne sim como faço ? Outra dúvida estou precisando fazer um controle quando a frequência de pulsos aumentar do encoder quero que diminua a frequência do inversor, nesse caso um controle inversamente proporcional, qual o parâmetro devo alterar pra fazer esse controle inverso no Pf525? Desse já agradeço!

[@balakumaranrajavelu3218]

Hi Tim, Thank you for knowledge you share. I have to replace on same 525vfd but different version ( old is version 1.6 and new one is version 4.0). After copying vfd program and connected to plc but Ethernet not connecting. But same vfd working with same Ethernet IP if i control from my PC

[@TimWilborne]

Chances are you have an electronic key and mismatch. The firmwares must match.

[@justinpuzak2558]

can i program a compact logix l32e with studio 5000 lite, (the 950$ version you were talking about) im going buy that version but i only have a compact logix l32e to practice on and dont know if they're compatible... also. i told my boss at hershey about your classes and hes very interested. we are waiting till they hire 2 more guys to set up classes for everyone. do you have a buisness email i can give to my boss incase he has any questions.

[@TimWilborne]

You could also use Mini if you are only programming in ladder. You can find more about our PLC training at twcontrols.com/plc-lab

[@douglaslinton8292]

HI Tim Your videos are great my question to you how do you connect and disconnect the 525 from within the studio 5000

[@TimWilborne]

Hi Douglas. Do you mean the inhibit function?

[@douglaslinton8292]

no i was just setting up for the first time and saw a means to connect to the via project or physical i chose physical so was just wondering how to disconnect since i was able to connect

[@TimWilborne]

@@douglaslinton8292 Still not sure I'm following your lingo. Do you mean viewing the module properties of the Powerflex drive and Studio 5000? If so the connect is more of make sure the parameters match what's in the offline and you'll get used physical, which is what's in the drive, or use project, which is what's in Studio 5000 after that. Not looking at Studio 5000 right now but I don't believe there's actually a disconnect or a need to disconnect afterwards. Just close the module properties.

[@douglaslinton8292]

for example just like how you can go offline and online with the plc i was wondering if that was possible to do that to the vfd from within the studio 5000 software after you would have establish connection to the drive from the software

[@TimWilborne]

@@douglaslinton8292 No. It's more like my previous reply.

[@benedalati1527]

Hi Tim, Thanks for the video. I have done all of the steps in it. I can ping my controller from my PC and when I check the ip address of the drive it is 192.168.1.12 in the same subnet as the controller 192.168.1.10 and my PC. But I am getting communication error when I click on the connection tab of the drive. Don't know why? Thanks again

[@TimWilborne]

What is the error? Also, can you ping both of them from your PC?

[@benedalati1527]

@@TimWilborne the error message is communication error, no number. No i can't ping the PF. Thanks

[@TimWilborne]

@@benedalati1527 If you can't ping the Powerflex then you need to hit the basics. Here is a video to help. kzbin.infoW7Q5ZgvEWiw

[@guangyaoli6218]

boss .please show us asi gateway control in studio5000.tahnks a lot

[@TimWilborne]

Don't have one of those

[@pratik9057]

Thank you so much for the video, I have to make some changes to my data type the default data type doesn't have the actual current. what should I do to get actual current in the Input which are read from the VFD

[@pratik9057]

Ok i found it, its in the drive properties/Device Definition/Connection format. thank you very much

[@TimWilborne]

Glad you found it.

[@philliptwin326]

I'd like to know if you could show us how to integrate a vision camera on a Controllogix or Micrologix over ethernet, please

[@TimWilborne]

Hi Philip. I don't have the hardware for that.

[@oanthientam9189]

thansk you , please help me , i can't find 525 inveter and adding into app rslogix5000, how to find that. best regarsd

[@TimWilborne]

Make sure you're right clicking Ethernet then selecting new module. Otherwise it won't show up, then enter Powerflex 525 into the filter box

[@tarekmohsen7572]

Thank you very much

[@TimWilborne]

You are welcome

[@phucrau007]

Thank you Sir🤝🤝🤝🤝

[@TimWilborne]

You are welcome

[@automotivate.vamshi1549]

Nice video.

[@TimWilborne]

Thank you!

[@nelsonpantaleon7751]

How about siemens like s7 1200 controlling thevspeed of vfd same like this video i hope you have video for s7 1200 siemens

[@TimWilborne]

No Siemens videos as of yet but we're exploring ideas.

[@tonymontero4752]

hi TIM i am wonder can we program VFD BY RSL 500 software i looked at controller i didnt see thank you

[@TimWilborne]

Program as in set the parameters? Possible but very difficult. Run? Yes, you can use messaging instructions.

[@tonymontero4752]

@@TimWilborne thank you but I was looking for controler at software but I couldn’t find Also one more question pleas if we have any other typ VFD like Siemens can we program it by RSL5000 or should be just Allen Bradley Thank you

[@TimWilborne]

@@tonymontero4752 The Powerflex 525 can be programmed with Connected Component Workbench. Siemens has its own software as far as programming.

[@tonymontero4752]

@@TimWilborne thank you

[@tonymontero4752]

Do u have video shows how to program power flex by connected work bench Thank you

[@davem5392]

I had many problems following this video i wanted to list some things for others who have the trainer and their Studio 5000 may have locked up and sent many errors to AB. I changed many things not 100% sure what did what. Program would not download deleted ethernet connection, only left ethernet IP active and changed to windows default driver. Took HMI out of run on config screen. The program seems to have problems with blank spaces on PLC and Drive descriptions. When downloaded I tried to double click on drive it stopped like yours but my powerflex connection was grayed out in use physical so i had to use project. Then I got error writing port 0 Parameter 122 value out of range. I clicked ok and then double clicked drive and all loaded properly. Also for others with trainer steps in video may not work for instance buttons on drive because this is already changed in drive to ethernet IP. Really not 100% sure how i got myself in so many problems but maybe some of these steps will help others

[@TimWilborne]

Hi Dave. Yours should have already been set up for this but I know we had some issues with IP addresses. Try doing a factory reset as shown in the following video and see if that smooths out the steps.

[@Sakthi_R]

Okay...but, How to program for reverse operation...😢

[@TimWilborne]

Use the direction tag to reverse the start

[@christopherdean2893]

This is what I see more and more in the field. Most drives are controlled over ethernet

[@TimWilborne]

Good to know.

[@flaviomartins48]

otimo ja me ajudou.

[@TimWilborne]

Você é bem vindo

[@जीवनदर्शन-ध2छ]

Failed to splice the path errror PF525??

[@TimWilborne]

It usually means no connection or firmware mismatch. Can you ping the drive? What is your IO Light doing?

[@जीवनदर्शन-ध2छ]

@@TimWilborne Actually my drive is healthy ,but ot didnot accept command from ethernet ip communication,so i reset it to default.I tried your communication video step by step but no response ,but when i change ip it doesn't ping and didn't showing in RS links.I tried to set ip at automatic in my pc,but its not communicate.

[@TimWilborne]

If you can't ping it then you need to check your network configuration.

[@जीवनदर्शन-ध2छ]

Thanks for your kind attention and Support 😊🙏.Error solve.Vfd run over ethernet.

[@TimWilborne]

Outstanding! What did you find?

[@alxdufour]

awesome

[@TimWilborne]

Thanks!

[@Time-Trvlr]

It gets fun when altering the mask ie 255.255.0.0

[@TimWilborne]

I'm thinking I might to a video on subnets Joel.